they could add accuracy to emp vision
#Emperor Nerfs | Completed!
worldly cove
hazy vigil
In what way?
worldly cove
id rather have that than the impossible to be ab
dawn depot
Would honestly prefer that over this trashy mythic mesh. 😭
digital mist
The crazy thing is, they said they fixed the pass glitch where you just randomly dropped the ball, but they didn’t fix that
worldly cove
.
digital mist
In what way?
dawn depot
Street Dribbler + Unbreakable wow just like Akashi!
digital mist
This way
whole mesa
they should add longer ankle breaks to emp vision, like when you ankle break someone they stay down for longer
worldly cove
wth
whole mesa
Street Dribbler + Unbreakable wow just like Akashi!
proceeds to show the panel of akashi getting ankle broken
hazy vigil
What am I looking for?
digital mist
My own teammate can’t emperor block my dunks that’s illegal
digital mist
My own teammate can’t emperor block my dunks that’s illegal
@hazy vigil
worldly cove
they gotta hurry up and add global cd bro
js played in a server full on emps
no one got a damn point from shooting
they had to dunk
umbral cave
Gonna have to disagree with you there. All perfections regardless if it is pre nerf or not can rot for all I care.
However bro here is dillusional about emperor not needing a nerf on Reach.
reef moon
Bimp
pallid ermine
bump
rotund tiger
imo emperor is kinda balanced
lavish anchor
not at all
rotund tiger
With emperors reach on you can't block or steal
both the moves has a minute+ cooldown
lavish anchor
yeah because the move already does that for you
rotund tiger
True but if you read it then they can't do much
shell whale
With emperors reach on you can't block or steal
the player cant shoot or pass and dunking is easy for other teamates to see and stop
rotund tiger
"read" something that has no indicator
If they dont try and steal it ig
rotund tiger
True but I play against people who dont know how to use the style
so you might be right
lavish anchor
a decent emperor wouldnt just pop it out of nowhere hoping someone shoots or passes in that 8 seconds tbh
rotund tiger
tbh I just dont want bro to get nerfed bc I only have 1 style slot 
lavish anchor
even then
rotund tiger
a decent emperor wouldnt just pop it out of nowhere hoping someone shoots or pas...
thats exactly what they did lmao
lavish anchor
eight seconds is probably the largest time window a defense move will ever have
lavish anchor
blink is buns
rotund tiger
I get touched by blink
rotund tiger
but I dont go against perfection much so
lavish anchor
unlike
lavish anchor
its necessary
its an auto defense move
it does defense for you
and itd be spammed left and right if it werent for the global cd
if you played during the release of perfection
it was borderline impossible to pass or shoot due to perfections
pure creek
if it gets nerfed I just pray I get basketball god
but I thought everyone had tons of spins
rotund tiger
but I thought everyone had tons of spins
I only have 32 LS
supple swallow
It has too good of an offense and defense that there isnt really any other reason to play other styles at this point, it does everything else better without any risk or counterplay
lavish anchor
offense
not really
but its insanely good at playmaking and defense
the playmaking aspect for emperor has a braindead frame 1 forced shot that has the range of limitless and requires zero aim
lavish anchor
oh no!!! i actually have to play the game instead of my style doing it for me!!!
gloomy quail
no
hoary iris
no
Everyone just keep stealing the team who got more emperors wins this isn’t fun anymore
supple swallow
not really
stun on double dribble and the auto shot on ultimate pass?
lavish anchor
emperors dribble is aight
drive is buns since it has endlag so you can just steal it off
forced shot on ultimate pass is as i mentioned in need of a speed decrease
supple swallow
what about the knockdown and the range on the dribble
lavish anchor
you talking about the dribble or the dribe
because the dribble is just charge but slightly worse
supple swallow
the one that lets him dash twice
supple swallow
not if its alway just happening
lavish anchor
you can steal the ball right at the end
and the direction is predictable
the dribble is fine
forced shot and reach are the only issues
supple swallow
Yeah i guess the dribble is alright ig
some people can get crazy distances without using copycat
supple swallow
they need to decrease the range of the base and awakening of the reach
umbral cave
it was borderline impossible to pass or shoot due to perfections
Anything that wasn't posterizer dunks or giant was practically unusable when perfection dropped if you didnt have perfection yourself lmao.
reef moon
Bump
pallid ermine
bump
reef moon
Bump
reef moon
Bump
reef moon
Bump
reef moon
Real asf😭
dawn depot
BUMP!
dawn depot
BUMP!
shell whale
bump just lost to a bot emp that spammed emp reach
and my defense hitboxes were gone
i was giving the guy head and it still would not block
while he without animalistic was blocking me from 3 feet away
reef moon
Bump
worldly cove
while he without animalistic was blocking me from 3 feet away
average bbz delay
people be hitting it out the clouds
shell whale
average bbz delay
it pmo so hard bro
supple swallow
Every Match has at least 3 Emperors, they need to add an increased scaling cooldown or something like a global cooldown on everyone cause if you dont have emp its just bull
shell whale
ranked should not be a thing in a game as buggy and unbalanced as this ngl
cuz tell me why i have to play with a chuck
when the other team has double emp
like hop off my ranked games
supple swallow
Everything was fine until Perfection then every update afterwards was just All unbalanced hype
worldly cove
ranked should not be a thing in a game as buggy and unbalanced as this ngl
they should js add pro servers again
worldly cove
Everything was fine until Perfection then every update afterwards was just All u...
untill jackpot*
supple swallow
untill jackpot*
was jackpot that bad?
shell whale
they should js add pro servers again
even jackpot was not the worst worst
copy cat came right after you know
supple swallow
Jackpot is just gambling every shot
supple swallow
Honestly nerf all of the double dribbles too
shell whale
idk when emp has flash ult steal in his base moveset
worldly cove
busted
in awk
and base
base is easier to deal with tho
but base is still insane
shell whale
really really predictable steal in my opinion
supple swallow
like if ur tryna shoot or feint in a server with a jackpot
at least theres a chance for it to fail or backfire badly, emp is just that but worse
worldly cove
at least theres a chance for it to fail or backfire badly, emp is just that but ...
should be a chance
still insane
and the awk
shouldnt be a thing
for a mythical its probably the 2nd best in the game
supple swallow
The Awk is definitely some level of bull with the loose ball thing if you time it mid pass
supple swallow
Get rid of Chem React for Full court Dunks for Star too
the cheese is actually unreal when theres 2 phantoms or 1 cc with a star
dawn depot
BUMP!
dawn depot
BUMP!
worldly gyro
Skill issue
pallid ermine
bump
pure creek
bump
pure creek
Nerf emperor reach bro
honestly
whole mesa
Nerf emperor reach bro
i feel like it should be timing based instead of "press this button and you get a 7 second install where you auto steal"
same with awk C
reef moon
Bump
desert moat
i feel like it should be timing based instead of "press this button and you get ...
Agree i cant pass,shoot,fake😭🙏
umbral cave
i feel like it should be timing based instead of "press this button and you get ...
Like a parry, almost?
lavish anchor
its braindead on purpose so that the crayon connoisseurs enjoy it and spend money
i dont think they know what a parry is
umbral cave
i dont think they know what a parry is
Give them sekiro and watch the fireworks.
lavish anchor
theyd have an aneurysm on the spot
emperor mains are like victorian era children
give them something they cant comprehend and they just die
umbral cave
emperor mains are like victorian era children
Perfection mains, too.
umbral cave
give them something they cant comprehend and they just die
God forbid they need to expunged the most minor amount of effort for a score.
Or a steal.*
lavish anchor
youre telling me i have to move to steal the ball??? blasphemous!!!
reef moon
Bump
gloomy quail
no bump
whole mesa
Like a parry, almost?
yes, because the way it works currently is not even fitting for the character
akashi could read the future and react in time, here you kind of just press c, stare at them really hard and hope it works
umbral cave
yes, because the way it works currently is not even fitting for the character
This would be acceptable.
reef moon
Bump
supple swallow
Get rid of the auto shoot being allowed anywhere that isnt the 2pt line, and make both the pass and shoot blockable
umbral cave
The shoot is blockable, its just timing it is an absolute pain if you aren't already next to the guy being passed to. Range decrease would be fine, and it absolutely needs to be slowed down.
supple swallow
The shoot is blockable, its just timing it is an absolute pain if you aren't alr...
its neigh instant bro, no wind up or anything just gamble to get it right
umbral cave
its neigh instant bro, no wind up or anything just gamble to get it right
Most Emperor's are dumb enough to immediately force the shot, so if you jump like half a second after they pass its a free block.
But I do get what you mean and as I said, it needs to be slowed down. Currently its faster than quick release.
@lavish anchor Good luck and godspeed.
May your sanity remain intact.
supple swallow
I dont think ive seen anyone block it at all, the only time i notice its hopeless is the fact that they do a dribble and pass
umbral cave
I can block it consistently if im next to the dude he passes to.
Otherwise, SOL.
Again. Im not saying it shouldnt be nerfed, but saying its impossible is just as disingenuous.
supple swallow
The sentiment that its extremely difficult to block is still there, just exaggerated
lavish anchor
May your sanity remain intact.
true fiber
Ngl I think ultimate should stay unblockable or give it a lot of iframes at the start so it can’t be picked right away then nerf force shot by giving it a actual animation
100% agree on the reach changes as a emp my self that moves is just release blink but better
supple swallow
Somehow Basketball god is weaker in comparison to Emperor bro
fading ivy
nerf jim
umbral cave
Somehow Basketball god is weaker in comparison to Emperor bro
Good. That said, nerf emperor. Actually speaking of, did emperor* even get nerfed this update?
hard urchin
no emperor nerf
umbral cave
...
umbral cave
Oh well, I guess I'll abuse it until it does get nerfed.
lavish anchor
its like legendary level
emperor is way worse
in this update since its bugs got fixed
umbral cave
basketball god surprisingly isnt
Does it at least do cool things and have its own place in the game?
umbral cave
in this update since its bugs got fixed
I imagine the zone is quite nasty.
lavish anchor
im not joking
umbral cave
...
Dunno how I feel about that.
Is his base kit comparable to Star then, or something?
lavish anchor
7h
uh
not at all
its just
contact dunk
and pre nerf perfection dribble
without the auto score
umbral cave
Hm.
hazy vigil
Is reverse dunk blockable?
Looks like it is catching up to it is a different story though
umbral cave
I imagine pressure defense would deal with it.
lavish anchor
Is reverse dunk blockable?
it is but
youd need to camp at the paint
which
uh atp just let them get the point
umbral cave
Looking forward to trying the fixed emperor zone.
twin dew
did they fix the 4th dribble or can you get your ball stolen?
hazy vigil
Zone is still buns to me imma stick to 777
umbral cave
I mean I dont see the point of it personally aside from the 4th dribble. Maybe so you can just spam E to steal with no penalty?
umbral cave
I managed to roll perfectionist zone, but I go back and forth between it and speed dribble.
umbral cave
How so?
lavish anchor
i cant see what the dude is doing because theres an entire hunk of metal hindering his movements
umbral cave
Beuh.
scenic skiff
When emperor released sniper users vanished
…
reef moon
i cant see what the dude is doing because theres an entire hunk of metal hinderi...
Just tackle the middle
umbral cave
When emperor released sniper users vanished
…
Perfection*
Emperor just ensured they'd never come back.
safe eagle
supple swallow
Nerf Emperor, make people play the game again (BBG doesnt have any offball moves)
shell whale
Nerf Emperor, make people play the game again (BBG doesnt have any offball moves...
nerf emp to make ranked actually about skill and not who is better at spamming emp reach
dawn depot
BUMP!
reef moon
Bump
hard urchin
bump
ivory matrix
Nerf Emperor, make people play the game again (BBG doesnt have any offball moves...
read my post about how azz bbg is
shell whale
read my post about how azz bbg is
this games hitboxes are atrocious 🥀🥀🥀
hitbox rivals kinda hitboxes
dawn depot
BUMP!
dim stratus
emperor reach last too long
drowsy hawk
Bump
hard urchin
still no nerf
brittle mulch
Massively decreased reaches active time i could activate it go make a sandwich go file a job application and then come back and its still active
dawn depot
Massively decreased reaches active time i could activate it go make a sandwich g...
Unrealistic, Emperor user filing j*b application.
wide pike
emp user spottd
brittle mulch
Unrealistic, Emperor user filing j*b application.
Mb sorry
gloomy quail
no
brittle mulch
Emp main spotted arguments invalid
hard urchin
no brain ahh ability,V spam gameplay
dawn depot
BUMP!
dawn depot
BUMP!
lost quail
Emperor reach needs a global cooldown ngl
true fiber
Emperor reach needs a global cooldown ngl
nah global cd is the worst type of fix imo
just make the window for the move go from 7 to 3 seconds
so you cant just turn it on when the person gets the ball and have to actually time it
oak socket
the reach only works like half the time bc teammates are in the way
and the way to outplay it is literally just waiting for it to end since he can't steal while it's active
and you can literally steal the ball at the end of his dribbling ability
while he's still in the animation
lavish anchor
that is if they use all 3 dribbles before using drive
oak socket
yea which most do
bc way too many ppl have it
the problem isn't the style it's the fact that everyone has it
oak socket
it's supposed to be better than mythics
lavish anchor
auto defense moves that guarantee possession is not a good thing
oak socket
auto defense moves that guarantee possession is not a good thing
it barely works
lavish anchor
it's supposed to be better than mythics
it can be without being braindead
because its bugged
lavish anchor
that doesnt take away from the move being stupid
oak socket
and you can literally just wait for it to end
oak socket
you can just wait
and he cant steal
so if you see someone with emp not stealing for movement you know he activated it
so just wait
lavish anchor
in what situation are emperors gonna use reach literally way before a shot or pass activates
lavish anchor
to get stolen off?
oak socket
bc you cant use the ability once you tried to block
oak socket
to get stolen off?
you can't steal while the ability is active
lavish anchor
their team can
oak socket
if their team is there the ability doesn't work
lavish anchor
if they see a dude pumpfake for that long someone is taking the ball
pumpfake iframes dont last that long
lavish anchor
as i said
its a lose lose
if youre pumpfaking for too long
yeah sure the emperor cant use it but you are getting the ball stolen regardless
pumpfake iframes do not last that long
oak socket
when you see their teammates coming
shoot
or pass
they only have to be in his camera view for the ability to break
lavish anchor
to get blocked
lavish anchor
either way
oak socket
the only problem with the style is that everyone has it
lavish anchor
reach has an eight second window
and most of the time it triggers
not even 2 seconds into that
lavish anchor
so do you just use reach like exactly 8 seconds before they shoot
oak socket
no you wait exactly 8 seconds before you shoot
lavish anchor
because emperors will just use it right before a pass or a shot
vestal cradle
PLEASE GOD put his block on a global cooldown
lavish anchor
^
vestal cradle
Infact just put every force block on the same global cd
oak socket
you need to predict the pass/shot since it's an activation skill
lavish anchor
you can literally do it on reaction
oak socket
so most of the time they'll have it active before you're even done dribbling so just charge up those dribbles and get past them after the 8 seconds
wide pike
nah global cd is the worst type of fix imo
fr
oak socket
you can literally do it on reaction
thats just blocking then
wide pike
but if its a 20 second global cd its ok i guess
lavish anchor
that guarantess possession
wide pike
especially seeing how stacked reach is
oak socket
that guarantess possession
most blocks guarantee possession bc you're stunned for a bit
wide pike
eh
once per possesion is fine
either that or they add a drastic change and make it only for passes
that would be a good balance imo
wide pike
so most of the time they'll have it active before you're even done dribbling so ...
wait r u saying reach is balanced?
wide pike
make it swat shots
interesting but that would also need something else cuz even then it would be too good
lavish anchor
his entire point is just "wait 8 seconds dude"
oak socket
yea seeing how the style has it's own rarity
true fiber
reach would be sort of balanced if you could even tell they had it on
wide pike
yea seeing how the style has it's own rarity
but...
true fiber
then you could actually out play it
lavish anchor
you gotta be cautious with charge
oak socket
reach would be sort of balanced if you could even tell they had it on
you can tell most of the time
true fiber
you can tell most of the time
you cant tell unless you read which shouldnt be how it is
lavish anchor
not to mention
wide pike
you can tell most of the time
what do i do if im bringing up the ball, just recieved a pass, and the emp in front of me waits for me to dribble once then pops reach
100% guaranteed turnover
lavish anchor
reach bypasses cutscenes
wide pike
thats my problem
true fiber
imo best way to balance it is shorten the window and make it so you can tell they have it on
lavish anchor
yeah
true fiber
reach bypasses cutscenes
and remove this
oak socket
what do i do if im bringing up the ball, just recieved a pass, and the emp in fr...
if he pops reach you just got a free ticket to walk with the ball no dribbles needed
lavish anchor
i still cant get over
true fiber
imo best way to balance it is shorten the window and make it so you can tell the...
window is like 7-8 seconds rn make it 3-4
and make eyes glow or something
lavish anchor
the clutch using the awakening move
wide pike
if he pops reach you just got a free ticket to walk with the ball no dribbles ne...
yeah... but i don't even know if they used it or not so if they didnt they can steal it
true fiber
@oak socket what your basically saying is you have to gamble they used the move
wide pike
if he pops reach you just got a free ticket to walk with the ball no dribbles ne...
this isnt a counter its a gamble that will rarely ever work, and if it fails you're giving them possesion in a gift wrapped box
how on earth is that balanced
true fiber
which just shouldnt be how you have to counter a move
lavish anchor
its such a bad argument to say "just look if they dont steal or block" because you still have to guess lol
true fiber
that is just not balanced
oak socket
I am always for gambling but this isn't gambling at all
lavish anchor
or
oak socket
it's just adding skill to this braindead game
wide pike
I am always for gambling but this isn't gambling at all
explain how this isnt gambling.
a good emp user wont spam it as soon as it's off cooldown
true fiber
its such a bad argument to say "just look if they dont steal or block" because y...
as i ex emp player (yes ik skill issue) i would legit fake using reach like this
oak socket
remember who has emp
lavish anchor
saying "just wait eight seconds" because reach often triggers in the first two
wide pike
remember who has emp
8 second window tho
oak socket
look at their movement and know if they can use it or not
wide pike
basically your "counter" is pray the emp user used reach and dont dribble for 8 seconds
oak socket
if they don't steal for movement or nothing they popped it
wide pike
yeah sounds fair
true fiber
if they don't steal for movement or nothing they popped it
once again gambling
wide pike
if they don't steal for movement or nothing they popped it
why would they steal for movement on defense
lavish anchor
it's just adding skill to this braindead game
"adding skill to the braindead game" while calling an auto defense move with an 8 second window balancdd
are we serious bro
wide pike
"adding skill to the braindead game" while calling an auto defense move with an ...
💀
zero skill involved to emp reach
true fiber
if the emp user has 2 braincells (not common) they will legit just fake you out by not swiping off rip
lavish anchor
like are we actually fr
true fiber
so you think they have reach on
oak socket
why would they steal for movement on defense
if they're already on you by the time you have the ball then it doesn't matter anyways they can just normally block you
true fiber
then you just swipe when they stand still waiting out reach
and boom free ball
reach isnt balanced as it gives the emp user full control over everything
wide pike
if they're already on you by the time you have the ball then it doesn't matter a...
they dont need to be on u tho
the range is huge
they can be in front of you
waiting
lavish anchor
range is around
true fiber
reach isnt balanced as it gives the emp user full control over everything
they can bait you out get ball they just can use the move get ball
lavish anchor
half court line to 3 point line
wide pike
no shooting and no passing for your opponent for 8 seconds is just a horrible move idea
lavish anchor
maybe a little less
oak socket
the range is huge
yea exactly if they're not on you they would use steal to get to you
oak socket
"adding skill to the braindead game" while calling an auto defense move with an ...
yea having smth that you actually have to think about when playing against it is adding skill
wide pike
no shooting and no passing for your opponent for 8 seconds is just a horrible mo...
if u think this is a good addition to the game idk what to say to u
true fiber
yea having smth that you actually have to think about when playing against it is...
i think bro uses emp ngl
worldly cove
half court line to 3 point line
for what
wide pike
i think bro uses emp ngl
well duh
true fiber
his argument sucks
worldly cove
he said maybe less emp reach range man
oh
oak socket
i think bro uses emp ngl
i have him in my second slot and do use him depending on who i play with
worldly cove
emp reach range is fine its js the time he has on
wide pike
yeah we knew
worldly cove
like 7.5s
oak socket
"dude the counter to this move is to not do anything for 8 seconds"
the counter is literally giving you extra dribbles bc you can let them charge
true fiber
the best way to fix it is make it so first window is shorten from 7-8 seconds to 3-4 seconds so you acc need to time it
wide pike
exactly
true fiber
the best way to fix it is make it so first window is shorten from 7-8 seconds to...
then add some way to tell they have it
wide pike
it should be like 3s honestly
true fiber
and boom its fixed
lavish anchor
yeah
wide pike
no passing+no shoothing for 8s is pretty much a 100% turnover
oak socket
his argument sucks
what rank are you
wide pike
either a huge nerf or lower that colossal uptime
worldly cove
they most likely wont nerf it
true fiber
and fix it letting you get the ball in cut scenes
worldly cove
for a while at least
wide pike
what rank are you
dawg 😭 nobody in any rank agrees with u
lavish anchor
the threat of the move alone makes the move busted lol
true fiber
what rank are you
plat 3 about to hit whatever after it
oak socket
dawg 😭 nobody in any rank agrees with u
my opponents in c3 would agree
wide pike
my opponents in c3 would agree
good thing you're a mind reader
worldly cove
id agree if they could pick a random mythical
wide pike
if they ban emp what will people with 1 slot with emp use
they want to
oak socket
good thing you're a mind reader
if it was that op you couldn't win any matches in 2v2 with 2 emps on the other team
wide pike
if it was that op you couldn't win any matches in 2v2 with 2 emps on the other t...
thats not how op works
there's a line between OP and 100% win
lavish anchor
ths point isnt that it isnt unwinnable against emp
wide pike
its just... way too far above the rest
oak socket
its really not
lavish anchor
the point is that the move is incredibly effective for its ease of use
wide pike
yea
lavish anchor
you literally just pop it
wide pike
at least make it hard to master
lavish anchor
walk towards them and look
wide pike
by giving it a smaller uptime 🤯
lavish anchor
you dont even have to be any close
oak socket
and then waste it most of the time bc they just wait for you
wide pike
smaller uptime = more prediction = more skill
also = more counterability = more skill
🤯
wide pike
auto defense moves should have drawbacks
wait fr?
lavish anchor
insane i know
wide pike
i thought they should spoonfeed me victory
oak socket
auto defense moves should have drawbacks
like not being able to steal and literally wasting it when ppl dont pass/shoot
i wonder where i've heard that from
lavish anchor
is that just your entire argument
wide pike
like not being able to steal and literally wasting it when ppl dont pass/shoot
how do you not pass or shoot in 8 seconds without knowing they have popped it
especially in a game like basketball
maybe this stuff would fly in blr
where everyone's an egoist
lavish anchor
dawg this game is fast paced as hell
wide pike
and passing is optional
oak socket
how do you not pass or shoot in 8 seconds without knowing they have popped it
by knowing that they popped it
wide pike
by knowing that they popped it
yeah. but a good user wont let u know so easily.
oak socket
is that just your entire argument
your entire argument is you wining about not being able to counter it
wide pike
also its a colossal gamble
oak socket
a good opponent can turn on their monitor and see their movement
wide pike
this is like those people who said pick up the ball after blink but on a whole nother level
wide pike
there shouldnt be such a specific counter
oak socket
this is like those people who said pick up the ball after blink but on a whole n...
nah blink is actually just press button even if the ball is already in
at least with reach you need to have it before they shoot
and it can go to waste
lavish anchor
which isnt
wide pike
nah blink is actually just press button even if the ball is already in
and reach is like just press the button wherever the ball is cuz they're gonna do SOMETHING in the next 8 seconds regardless
wide pike
fr
lavish anchor
literally you dont even need 4 seconds for it to trigger
vestal cradle
How are arguing emperor is fair
oak socket
and reach is like just press the button wherever the ball is cuz they're gonna d...
or.. and hear me out.. they just laugh at you while normally running towards the hoop not even having to dribble
wide pike
and it can go to waste
saying we are "whining about reach being too good" when you're saying wasting reach is something that actually happens
twin quail
omg why is copycat too op
vestal cradle
This style is just prenerf perfection with a different coat of paint
wide pike
or.. and hear me out.. they just laugh at you while normally running towards the...
or.. and hear me out.. you laugh at me while realising i didn't even use emperor's reach and get stolen while your teammates scream at you
lavish anchor
how do you waste something with a fair amount of range + an auto defense
worldly cove
omg why is copycat too op
bc testers dont test
lavish anchor
like genuinely
twin quail
bc testers dont test
fr
wide pike
for being an idiot and gambling in a basketball game
oak socket
or.. and hear me out.. you laugh at me while realising i didn't even use emperor...
thats just skill issue
wide pike
thats just skill issue
u the one who said wasting reach is something that actually happens 😭
oak socket
you're whole argument is you not being able to read ppls movement
lavish anchor
so like
wide pike
hi dad im whole argument
oak socket
u the one who said wasting reach is something that actually happens 😭
ofc it happens wth
lavish anchor
i gotta guess if theyre using reach or not
wide pike
ofc it happens wth
calling us unskilled while saying this is a common occurence is diabolical
lavish anchor
i could be very easily
worldly cove
i gotta guess if theyre using reach or not
in most servers
lavish anchor
pretending to use reach
oak socket
pretending to use reach
and that right there is adding more skill/thought to this braindead game
worldly cove
everythings bugged
oak socket
thanks
oak socket
calling us unskilled while saying this is a common occurence is diabolical
you can't even make ppl waste it
lavish anchor
so apparently 50/50s are skill now
wide pike
and that right there is adding more skill/thought to this braindead game
"reach adds skill to bbz"
yeah im leaving
lavish anchor
we in tekken now or sum?
wide pike
bye bye
oak socket
"reach adds skill to bbz"
it makes you think about what to do next more lol
lavish anchor
we adding mix ups to bbz bro?
oak socket
and i mean when you're against emp not using emp reach ofc
if you couldn't tell by my whole argument being about how to counter it
oak socket
the guessing part is already the problem lol
worldly cove
if you couldn't tell by my whole argument being about how to counter it
u cant rlly counter it without a few things
the range might be bad but its still insanly good
oak socket
every skill that gets you past the opponent counters it bc you can see if they use steal for movement or not
worldly cove
not every skill..
oak socket
if they don't 3 dribbles and you have enough space for it not to reach
worldly cove
they dont go far enough
oak socket
they dont go far enough
every skill that gets you past them
worldly cove
uh
oak socket
- 3 dribbles backwards for the speed boost
lavish anchor
you got this ismael
worldly cove
??
lavish anchor
we have uh
oak socket
they gave up
wide pike
you got this ismael
subbing out 😭
lavish anchor
said the same thing about 3 times
wide pike
i went for a quick break
oak socket
they can walk
if they still haven't used steal for movement by then you know they have it active
lavish anchor
its because youre not champion 3 bro smh
worldly cove
you need like speed dribble and backward dribbles for a chance to get out the range because most of the time it depends on ping
if ur over 90 ping your delayed
oak socket
screenshot?
worldly cove
same for the person with reach on
they could take it from miles away if you or him are delayed
ts takingto long
oak socket
if they activated reach they cant steal
oak socket
yea same
i send the same msg like 3 times
after using a skill that gets you past them + 3 dribbles
if they dont steal for movement
you can relax and let the dribbles charge back up for a few secs until the reach ran out
oak socket
then the skill doesnt work
worldly cove
u cant js sit there and wait for dribbles
oak socket
if a teammate is near you the skill doesnt activate
oak socket
reach
worldly cove
emp reach?
oak socket
doesn't work if a teammate is near you
oak socket
yea it is
oak socket
it hasn't worked once for me when someone was near
lavish anchor
they already fixed the bug
lavish anchor
confirmed emperor bug fixes
worldly cove
thats when im talking abt
oak socket
then it's probably just my horrible wifi breaking it
worldly cove
the game has gotten less laggy
oak socket
but if having at least 2 ppl on you is the only way for it to not get countered
worldly cove
after the update
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that's balanced for the rarity
lavish anchor
ah yes
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imo
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?
are you slow?
if you need 3 ppl on you just so 1 of them can use their skill
i would say that's balanced
and even gives you another way to tell when they pop it
bc if you have 3 ppl on you and they didnt pop you just pass
worldly cove
if were talking abt ranked
nvm
nvm
were talking abt emp
i was abt to say smth else
worldly cove
orr they got a life to get too
oak socket
nah they said they leaving bc they don't want to argue no more
I'm just using this to farm lvls so i can type in #⛹・fan-leagues
oak socket
yea sure I can get behind that
worldly cove
bc if the emp is any smart he will use it before he jumps on a feint so the guy falls for it and shoots
then the reach will take it
oak socket
you can't use reach after trying to block
worldly cove
i said before
worldly cove
why were yall even arguing about emp
when the game is almost unplayable half the time
lavish anchor
look at the forum title
worldly cove
look at the forum title
ok?
oak socket
they were saying that it's the most unbalanced thing in the world
worldly cove
they were saying that it's the most unbalanced thing in the world
it isnt
that goes to copycat
oak socket
true xd
lavish anchor
just give copycat stamina consumption on either copied moves or flowstep
then we good
oak socket
yea but I said that the main problem was that everyone has it and then it started lol
worldly cove
it shouldnt be able to fully copy somethings
in the anime it said he copied emp eye
but
it wasnt actually the emp eye
it was nerfed
so if they could nerf what they copy
by a little
like mythicals and above
then that would be a good nerf
oak socket
yea like nerf abilities mythic+ and make them copy limiteds like only a nerfed version
lavish anchor
thatd be difficult to implement
lavish anchor
theyd have to individually
worldly cove
its meant to be a 1 time thing
lavish anchor
adjust the moves for copycat
oak socket
i mean like nerfed version and only like 1 of their abilities
worldly cove
copycat is already ruining the fun
lavish anchor
like a lot of it
oak socket
everytime a new limited comes out copycat gets cut in half because you can't copy anyone in the lobby
i had copycat when perfection came out and i couldnt play
in ranked with less ppl it's even worse
worldly cove
so just make copied moves consume stamina
they probably wouldnt nerf it that much
worldly cove
everytime a new limited comes out copycat gets cut in half because you can't cop...
maybe when the limited is still obtainable
lavish anchor
now hes in the bahamas
worldly cove
but after that
oak socket
yea smth like that
worldly cove
use a copied drive
ik it goes rlly far
thats y i said nerf the copied one
and maybe the 2 dribbles
kinda hard to control
oak socket
well using both abilities to score once isn't really optimal
nearly every style can spam both abilities and score
hazy vigil
well using both abilities to score once isn't really optimal
A point is a point but yes this is true.
lavish anchor
imo copied moves taking stamina might actually make people use their cranium for once
worldly cove
u only need 3 backward dribbles and flowstep to make a 3 unless they got a emp or perf
anyways brb rq
oak socket
u only need 3 backward dribbles and flowstep to make a 3 unless they got a emp o...
yea true
oak socket
imo copied moves taking stamina might actually make people use their cranium for...
yea that might be good
since in the anime that was literally their way to nerf him
bc his body couldn't keep up
lavish anchor
still surprised cc doesnt have a zone but im relieved that it doesnt
my other idea was that copy cooldown gets longer each time you use it
oak socket
still surprised cc doesnt have a zone but im relieved that it doesnt
imagine zone just giving you even more movement xd
lavish anchor
either make it consume stamina or make the cooldown longer after each use
lavish anchor
imagine zone just giving you even more movement xd
honestly i thought his entire zone was just gonna be a cooldown decrease one
oak socket
true
oak socket
either make it consume stamina or make the cooldown longer after each use
Make a new suggestion for it if there isn't already one
lavish anchor
i dont really like making suggestions for nerfs
i only do them for style moveset suggestions
dawn depot
that is if they use all 3 dribbles before using drive
You can still do this.
And not have steal frames.
lavish anchor
aw hell nah you you you you
dawn depot
Just need to time your gap between the dribble and drive.
dawn depot
nearly every style can spam both abilities and score
This is also fair.
Flowstep usually is free on it’s own though.
dawn depot
Rework Ace. 😭
oak socket
Even better
dawn depot
Started this game before watching KNB.
When I found out who Ace was based on.
I was so sad that it was so lame.
When Aomine was like a demon.
oak socket
He was so much fun to play when he was new and now it's so mid
dawn depot
He was so much fun to play when he was new and now it's so mid
Def quality creep.
Stuff like.
oak socket
The skills just keep getting better and better
dawn depot
I think Star is good example of balanced with high quality. Still good obviously.
lavish anchor
phantom is only as good as your team is
dawn depot
Or Chuck even more so.
dawn depot
Chuck looks good and plays good, even if it is mid in terms of balancing.
hazy vigil
They ruined phantom 💔
dawn depot
why the hell can i intercept it
Bullet Pass nerfed to upscale Ultimate Pass. 😭
balmy karma
unblockable passes used to be its own move now they giving it out like candy to new styles
hazy vigil
unblockable passes used to be its own move now they giving it out like candy to ...
There's only like 2 now (off the top of my head)
dawn depot
unblockable passes used to be its own move now they giving it out like candy to ...
Making Bullet Pass do ONE THING.
oak socket
Chuck looks good and plays good, even if it is mid in terms of balancing.
Yea and then theres ace with a drive thats barely faster than you running
dawn depot
Should mean only that move should do that ONE THING on use.
Jackpot ig we can give a pass bc gotta use bounce.
Ultimate Pass though is Bullet Pass but better.
oak socket
Yea
And to think the phantom is the MAIN character from the Anime they pull most their characters from
dawn depot
Yea and then theres ace with a drive thats barely faster than you running
Drive like only really assures 2 pointer.
Can easily block most times they go for a 3.
oak socket
Yea
dawn depot
And to think the phantom is the MAIN character from the Anime they pull most the...
Star being Kagami with ALL THAT LOVE.
oak socket
And it automatically goes for the layup when you're near it which is the easiest block
dawn depot
4 move variants and chem reaction?
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Star being Kagami with ALL THAT LOVE.
Yea that's crazy
dawn depot
Then there’s Phantom with like nothing.
dawn depot
Chrollo said he doesn’t wanna do timeskip movesets but.
Phantom is literally like episode 1 Kuroko. 😭
Need to awaken in order to use Drive.
And even then no Phantom Shot.
oak socket
And in awakening you only have phantom
Not the pass
Like why make my awk ability be drive but then the basic with it be without the ball
oak socket
It's the same with bbg wdym I can't have the ball to awaken but need the ball to use it
oak socket
im gonna go suggest a phantom rework moveset
Ty
worldly cove
It's the same with bbg wdym I can't have the ball to awaken but need the ball to...
bc the awk is a free 5 points
lavish anchor
do i gotta approach an enemy to get away from the enemy
dawn depot
Bc if not people could probs use it for mobility if like running away ig.
Like using Emp dribble to get across court.
But you can still do that.
oak socket
bc the awk is a free 5 points
Yea give it some variation instead of just dunk basic and dunk awk
hazy vigil
bc the awk is a free 5 points
6
hazy vigil
If we're talking bbg
oak socket
The dunk is 3 pts
hazy vigil
dawn depot
Counts as 3 on both.
hazy vigil
Please read
oak socket
Well it was when I last tested the style
worldly cove
thats insane
hazy vigil
Read the numbers 💔
oak socket
And all it is is just the basic ability with more range and effects
worldly cove
Read the numbers 💔
i dont pay attenion to them when im playing
hazy vigil
So why do we just openly say wrong things
worldly cove
ok.
hazy vigil
Glad we could see reason
oak socket
Phantom rework might just be a step into fixing lobbies full of emp/bbg/perf
worldly cove
Glad we could see reason
wait
oak socket
Make ppl wanna keep their epics instead of everyone just rolling for the newest style
worldly cove
it shouldnt
bc in the last game movie
someone dunked from 3 point line
shouldnt that count as 3 if half court did
hazy vigil
Not my game but sure if that's true
worldly cove
it is true
oak socket
I think dunks are 2pts no matter from where
worldly cove
it shouldnt give 3
oak socket
In actual rules
oak socket
Scoring is the only thing the style does tho
oak socket
They probably won't rework it since it's limited but all it does is score
Just different effects
worldly cove
best point maker
oak socket
No variation
oak socket
best point maker
And when you don't have the ball you're useless
worldly cove
and its very hard to block the dunk
worldly cove
And when you don't have the ball you're useless
thats what tm8s are for
dawn depot
What would an off the ball move do.
worldly cove
What would an off the ball move do.
probably js block anything
oak socket
Idk I didn't watch the episode in regular show but something different than just dunk
hazy vigil
More are gonna get added... eventually
worldly cove
nash will probably have one
dawn depot
Game has too much defensive moves. 😭
hazy vigil
Definitely have one
oak socket
In ranked 2vs2 you just gamble to get the ball first bc you can't do anything without it
worldly cove
without emp lock or perf
hazy vigil
In ranked 2vs2 you just gamble to get the ball first bc you can't do anything wi...
Bbg dominates 2v2 rn + the zone
dawn depot
Snatch Block, Star Leap, Jackpot Steal, Hands Up, Blink, Reach, and jdk what else I missed.
hazy vigil
Actually aids
oak socket
Yea
dawn depot
Zone is so brainrot.
worldly cove
it should get banned from 2s
hazy vigil
Snatch Block, Star Leap, Jackpot Steal, Hands Up, Blink, Reach, and jdk what els...
Hands up is buns and you can add intercept
lavish anchor
Snatch Block, Star Leap, Jackpot Steal, Hands Up, Blink, Reach, and jdk what els...
pressure defense
oak socket
Bbg dominates 2v2 rn + the zone
And if you use bbg and don't get the ball first you can't do anything
dawn depot
pressure defense
Was gonna say but wasn’t sure if counted as much.
oak socket
Hands up is buns and you can add intercept
Intercept is steal able
hazy vigil
Still defensive
worldly cove
and they should make it where who evers team has the less amount of points gets awk
dawn depot
Fair I meant mostly shot moves though.
oak socket
It's just the one who starts with the ball gets awk
balmy karma
There's only like 2 now (off the top of my head)
u right ngl just feels like more because new styles getting it
oak socket
Tbh seeing as lock is extra for defense and then theres emp just being better at it is sad
Or perf
hazy vigil
Limitless + Posterizer wasn't a good idea man... can't take this
oak socket
Limitless + Posterizer wasn't a good idea man... can't take this
Yea in 2vs2 you basically have the 2 most broken stats in 1
lavish anchor
in general
they just gotta get creative w zones instead of
HERES THREE PRE EXISTING ZONES IN ONE HAVE FUN
oak socket
Yea
And more creativity in styles
It's just the same abilities with diff effects
Like bbg is literally just 2 abilities with 3 of them being just diff effects
hazy vigil
Sniper + Animalistic is fun until the giant ruins my fun....
oak socket
most creative moveset imo is jackpot
Just casually has 5 basics
lavish anchor
yeah its kinda bloated
we also have playmaker which is unique
its
kinda mediocre though
oak socket
And then bbg just has dunk as basic and dunk as awk
hazy vigil
Nutmeg working once in a blue moon
solemn marlin
In ranked 2vs2 you just gamble to get the ball first bc you can't do anything wi...
Ignore what you hear BBG is horrible giant and emperor dominate due to the steal
solemn marlin
The zone is good tho
oak socket
Ignore what you hear BBG is horrible giant and emperor dominate due to the steal
Yea ik I'm saying you can't use bbg if you don't instantly get the ball
lavish anchor
what else has a unique moveset
oak socket
Chuck with the 50/50 kinda
lavish anchor
most of the unique movesets are lower rarity
hazy vigil
I'm interested in fetch
oak socket
most of the unique movesets are lower rarity
That's why it's so sad that they break them cough phantom cough
lavish anchor
yeah
i have a friend thats mained phantom since he joined
he actually had to switch to jackpot
its so bad now
oak socket
Make lower raritys more unique/useful and the problem with all lobbies just being emp/bbg/perf gets a bit better
Would fix so much
Yay lvl 10 finally
lavish anchor
i main clutch on the side solely because lower rarity styles actually make me enjoy the game
oak socket
Yea chuck is the perfect lower rarity imo