Emperor Nerfs | Completed!

[radiant karma]

would making emperor reach during animation be stealable make it balanced

[stuck scaffold]

The shot has such a little animation time from the pass

[junior mango]

also higher cooldown for dribble

only a bit

[dawn depot]

Think duration nerf and vfx indicator is better route. Intercept has same mechanic and it’s pretty trash against any decent player.

[radiant karma]

eh the dribble is fine

[junior mango]

it comes back to quikly

[radiant karma]

it works js like quickstep

[dawn depot]

Dribble is good as is imo. Def not underpowered but I think Reach/Pass are what make it so messed up.

[stuck scaffold]

Im ngl him being a different rarity makes it so annoying to get him

[dawn depot]

Could argue Quickstep or Flowstep are better dribbles.

[tulip wave]

ye but if u see the pass u can block the shoot

[radiant karma]

i was wrong abt emperor pass not being nerfed

they need to nerf forced shot

wayyy too quick

[junior mango]

ik

[dawn depot]

Ultimate Pass is pretty much an assured 3 pointer if your TM isn’t in paint.

[stuck scaffold]

The force shot is unpredictable so if u didn't have akashi u would be complaining to

[stuck scaffold]

Exactly

[tulip wave]

no

[tulip wave]

its not

[dawn depot]

To make it clear I made this suggestion after using Emperor, so ik it’s busted. 😭

[junior mango]

facts

[tulip wave]

if u see the pass then u know the shoot its coming

[junior mango]

they can delay it

[stuck scaffold]

Like at least ur not brain dead to the point u say its not broken

[radiant karma]

i wonder if u can snatch block emperor's pass like u can do with jackpot's pass

[tulip wave]

ye its kind broken but still u can react from the pass move

[dawn depot]

No windup for the shot, you literally need to guess when it comes out. And need to be right on the hitbox bc again no windup to get on it.

[tulip wave]

if u cant react wild

[stuck scaffold]

No its not u can also dribble while the auto shot happens

[stuck scaffold]

Have u blocked one of those shots

[dawn depot]

Ace user did Athletic Drive for free Forced Shot. 😭

[tulip wave]

no but i have seen ppl do it

[stuck scaffold]

Exa

[tulip wave]

5 times 9times

[stuck scaffold]

So u haven't

And ur saying its easy

[tulip wave]

i have see ppl

do it

[stuck scaffold]

But ur not that person

[junior mango]

so u havent

[stuck scaffold]

U Didn't block it

[tulip wave]

and?

[stuck scaffold]

And ur saying it's easy to

[dawn depot]

You can block it but it just comes down to luck. Jump right after the pass and pray they spam Forced Shot. If you play ranked where they have a brain, it’s uncounterable.

[tulip wave]

where did i said easy

[stuck scaffold]

Ur just glazing cus u have the style

[tulip wave]

i never said is easy to block it

[radiant karma]

a good emp user would not use force shot right away if the other person is getting guarded lmfao

[tulip wave]

and thats good bc its A MIRACLE

[stuck scaffold]

U are implying its easy

[radiant karma]

and i swear i saw someone shoot a deep 3 with force shot

[stuck scaffold]

Especially when your going against 2 i. 2v2s

[radiant karma]

the range is also busted

[tulip wave]

bro if it was easy then it shouldn't be at miracle

[dawn depot]

On one hand you need to jump early to block Forced Shot bc no windup, on other hand they could just be waiting for you to jump before they use Forced Shot. Just comes down to luck.

[umbral cave]

You can steal it.

I've done so at least five times in the last two days.

[tulip wave]

better the category the more difficulty to deal with

[junior mango]

this style is just nit fair

not

[radiant karma]

there's a difference between hard and busted

pause

[stuck scaffold]

Thats just a stupid answer

[stuck scaffold]

😭😭

[dawn depot]

Emperor is difficult to deal with because it has:

• Dribble
• Drive
• Reach
• Pass
• Forced Shot

Not ALL of those moves have to be the best in their category in order to make Emperor strong. It’s strong because it has all of those as OPTIONS.

[umbral cave]

I dont think Emperor pass needs a nerf. Reach absolutely does, and it could use multiple nerfs.
Pass requires teammates that know how to position themselves.
Reach is just blink with shorter range.

[stuck scaffold]

And the pass is a dribble move

[radiant karma]

its forced shot + emperor reach

[umbral cave]

Forced shot is surprisingly easy to deal with, but it needs a range reduction. It has limitless range which is just not okay.

[junior mango]

the reach is 10x better than locked style which is based on defense

[radiant karma]

forced shot is NOT easy to deal with

what

[reef moon]

Bro what

Emps reach needs a global cd

[dawn depot]

What is your rank for it to be easy to deal with. 😭

[junior mango]

its too quick

[tulip wave]

nope

[umbral cave]

If you're covering the dude who's being passed to, its easy to block.

[tulip wave]

no way u said it

[stuck scaffold]

It needs to have a actual shot animation

[dawn depot]

Again what is the rank you’re playing.

[junior mango]

u can be dribbling then it suddently shoots with no animation

[stuck scaffold]

Exactly

[tulip wave]

i missed emperor reach so many times but never i missed the moves of lock

[umbral cave]

Ranked isn't even relevant.

[radiant karma]

have u seen that one tiktok, Star leap + Force shot

[stuck scaffold]

What

[stuck scaffold]

I just saw that

Its so unfair

[dawn depot]

So you’re saying Forced Shot isn’t strong because you’re not going against decent players. 💔

[radiant karma]

tell me ts aint busted

[umbral cave]

The only issue I have with forced shot is its range.

[junior mango]

it needs animation

[dawn depot]

Blocking Forced Shot because the Emperor used it right after pass in a public does not mean Forced Shot is balanced.

[junior mango]

a slower one

[stuck scaffold]

U have to agree it needs the shot animation

[radiant karma]

it does have one

[dawn depot]

With literally any decent player it’s a free 3 pointer.

[radiant karma]

its just hella quick

[junior mango]

a better one

[dawn depot]

Think he means the animation including windup.

[umbral cave]

Honestly I'm indifferent. I don't really care either way. Slow it down to quick release maybe, then keep it's range as is.

[stuck scaffold]

Yh i mean it needs a better kbe

[radiant karma]

its as quick as

what's the one sniper move

midrange sniper move

[umbral cave]

Quick release and no, it's faster.

[junior mango]

quick draw

[radiant karma]

yeah

[waxen pine]

I finally rolled emperor so now I can tell you

Yeah he needs a nerve

Nerf*

[stuck scaffold]

Exactly

[waxen pine]

He has a passive of snatching the ball

DID YOU HEAR THAT HE HAS A PASSIVE

He has a domain expansion

He has a dunking animation the best dribble in the game

AND THE BEST PASS IN THE GAME

Like bro

[radiant karma]

i doubt it'll get nerfed

[waxen pine]

Nerf him

[radiant karma]

chrollo's fully aware of how broken it is

[junior mango]

range reduction

[umbral cave]

Id argue flowstep is better.

[stuck scaffold]

Also posterizer in 2v2s is so unfair

Its instant duno

[waxen pine]

?

[stuck scaffold]

Dunk

[umbral cave]

If Reach somehow doesn't get nerfed, its joever.

[radiant karma]

best dribble move in my opinion

other than quickstep

[umbral cave]

I can see the rest of emperor not being touched but Reach needsnto be nerfed.

[umbral cave]

Athletic drive comes in an 3rd before flash. Quickstep to me is just a way to secure points rather than gain distance.

[dawn depot]

Reach is better Intercept. Ultimate Pass is better Phantom Pass which also gives a free 3 pointer. Dribble is really good because it lasts long enough to regain full stamina.

[radiant karma]

i thought at first when i got emp

than u have to time Reach

instead of it working like hands up

[umbral cave]

You dont, to an extent, since it has a duration of... 7-8 seconds. But I've found that if someone uses Emperor's dribble on you after you pop reach you'll never get the ball if they pass or shoot.

[junior mango]

emp reach stalls so much time

[umbral cave]

?

[radiant karma]

yeah

7-8 seconds is crazy

[junior mango]

they cant pass aswell

[reef moon]

Bump

[lofty geode]

good suggestion although i feel like when he is in ult his reach should be buffed to like 6 or 7 second and in base 3.5 or 4 seconds

[dawn depot]

Yeah 3 seconds base and 6 seconds in ult I’d say is more agreeable.

[drowsy hawk]

Nah, just 3 seconds for both 😭

[dense crescent]

No

[reef moon]

Bump

[dawn depot]

BUMP!

[dawn depot]

Is your acc ZaiProdigy and were you on 3s earlier.

Or 2s.

[serene lance]

Why

Just why

Emperor nerfs?

Bro is it cause you don’t have emperor

[hard urchin]

nah,emperor steal and pass is op

[serene lance]

Ye it’s a mythic for a reason?

[shell whale]

average 65 overall emp user:

[hard urchin]

fr

[serene lance]

I have a 80 overall shut up

[hard urchin]

💀

[shell whale]

https://tenor.com/view/lebron-james-scared-scary-flop-gif-8576938341887257950

[hard urchin]

crazy bro

[serene lance]

you got emperor tho

Do you

[shell whale]

yea and i know its busted

[hard urchin]

same

[shell whale]

and i dont use it cuz its boring

[hard urchin]

second move ahh spam

[shell whale]

yea just look and use it and i teleport across the map

[hard urchin]

average emp user which is agains op nerf 💀

[serene lance]

So one has it and says it’s boring while other one saying it’s to op

[dawn depot]

Blud hit SilverII and felt tough. 😭

[hard urchin]

its too boring bc op

[serene lance]

?

[shell whale]

“step aside guys i got bronze 3” 😧😧

[hard urchin]

how did you got bronze against emperor users?

[serene lance]

Who’s post is this

[hard urchin]

whos care?this style still op

[serene lance]

op

it’s a mythic for a reason

[hard urchin]

yep

[hard urchin]

???

that make sense?

[serene lance]

bro they wouldn’t put a non op thing as a mythic

[shell whale]

idk how i got gold 3 cuz these emps are jumping me in all directions

[shell whale]

ever heard of sae and don lorenzo in blr?

[serene lance]

Blr is wack now

[hard urchin]

that why he breaks the game

[serene lance]

Bro what?

he owns the game

He can do whatever bro wants with it

[shell whale]

ik thats why i said styles before chrollo left

[dawn depot]

It being a mythic warrants having 5 options:

• Dribble
• Drive
• Reach
• Pass
• Force Shot

Does not warrant EACH of those being busted.

[serene lance]

um

[radiant karma]

Yes that's true, but u also have the right to criticize

[dawn depot]

And we can suggest what we want in the suggestions channels. 😭

[serene lance]

I mean you can always just not play the game if you don’t like it.

[serene lance]

you forget he also owns the discord server

[hard urchin]

we like it,but we dont like op style

[radiant karma]

I like the game that's why I criticize it

I want it to be better

[serene lance]

😂

[hard urchin]

fr

[dawn depot]

What is your point little vro.

[serene lance]

nobody talking to you shut up

[hard urchin]

bros have 80 ovr

[serene lance]

Good point

[hard urchin]

he doesnt play the game

[serene lance]

ok

Nerfing emperor would honestly not make it a mythic anymore

Would go down a rank

down

To

Legendary

[radiant karma]

?

What

[dawn depot]

https://tenor.com/view/dancing-cat-dance-cat-cat-meme-chinese-cat-gif-9857429393596120152

[dawn depot]

Just baiting. 😭

[serene lance]

bro

what’s up with this dude

Gtfo

[drowsy hawk]

That’s right

[serene lance]

?

[radiant karma]

What kind of nerf are u talking abt

[serene lance]

bro this poster says emperor nerfs right, if they nerfed emperor degrading it down would lower its value.

They made emperor op for a reason to upheld its value in its rank

[radiant karma]

Nerfing emperor reach would still make it a top tier style

[serene lance]

.

Ohh only the reach

[radiant karma]

For me I think emperor reach and force shot are the only things that needs to be nerfed

Make force shot slightly slower

[light plinth]

dont yap and cry begging for a nerf when basketball god completely washes emperor

[serene lance]

who me?

[light plinth]

if u dislike the idea of nerfing emp, idk about you

the peeps that disagrees with the nerf

[hard urchin]

The suggestion means the same thing,isn't it?

[shell whale]

basketball god wont help its just adding something more broken to stop something that was broken before

[serene lance]

I bet this dude will make a basketball god nerf after it comes out

[radiant karma]

The suggestion is making emperor pass blockable

Am I wrong

[serene lance]

💀

so your basically just normally passing but by touching a different button

[radiant karma]

I didn't say that

Tell that to him

[serene lance]

Doesn’t ace got one to

[hard urchin]

phantom nerf core:

[shell whale]

why u defending emp like its not the most broken thing

[serene lance]

cause

I

Can

also I was just replying to the dudes message

[shell whale]

cause its the only style you have and you dont want to spin for something once it gets nerfed

[serene lance]

so I spent almost 6k robux on getting sum thing next thing yk turns into trash

Smart man

[radiant karma]

Yn 6k robux?

[serene lance]

my luck sucks

[radiant karma]

Do u js not like

Save lucky spins

[serene lance]

no

[radiant karma]

Instead of immediately using it

[serene lance]

Why would I save

[hard urchin]

you have afk zone bro

you can just staying in afk and grinding a free lucky spins

[radiant karma]

This guy is a financial genius

[serene lance]

it’s just rbx

Chill out

[radiant karma]

Worth $60-70

Holy

[serene lance]

Half of it was from my percent from a game

[radiant karma]

We have to be smarter with our finances my brothers and sisters

[hard urchin]

its not worth it 💀

[light plinth]

is bro rich or smth

[hard urchin]

fr

[light plinth]

he talking like that much is nothing

[radiant karma]

Y'know what u could've had instead of emperor

A whole grocery

[serene lance]

I am broke now I ain’t get paid my percent till Friday

so will see

Oh shoot I gotta renew my nitro

[limber kindle]

Why is bro flexing his money

It ain't that hard to get lucky spins gng

[stark moss]

I got 1,000,000

[limber kindle]

Wasting robux on a game like this when there's afk😂

[stark moss]

Even for zone spins?

[limber kindle]

Yes

[stark moss]

Ok

✅

[dense crescent]

Yeah a game for poopy heads

[reef moon]

Bump

[worldly cove]

horrible

all it needs is a global cd

on emp reach

idkw people complaining abt emp when jackpot and copycat r a thing

and ultimate pass is so slow plus u can grab it with star jump giant jump lock and jackpot steal

tryna make it the worse style is the game

[untold helm]

its not stealable without an ability (unless all my servers are janky/buggy) which is the issue, and needing an ability to deal with an ability with no other counterplay is the worst design ever
global cd is valid and the duration needs to be less than 10 seconds by a lot

[reef moon]

Buns argument because people complaing about jackpot and copycat is a mythic

Global cd is needed fs

Add some way to see the damn thing too

[ivory matrix]

i had a match 3v3 all 6 had emp and everyone was constantly yanking ball from eachother,add a visual indicator to the move being active and add global cd

[worldly cove]

NO

caps

no visual

global cd is good enough

its

meant

to

be

the best

but it isnt

be happy for that

global cd is good enough

greedy ppl bro

[worldly cove]

the reach rarely works and the counter play for that is speed dribble or copycat or jackpot

[reef moon]

What typa bs argument is this

[worldly cove]

rs

[reef moon]

It's high rarity so it should be cracked?

[ivory matrix]

dunking is a counter play

[worldly cove]

see

that too

[ivory matrix]

atleast global cd,a visual indicator could be good tho

[worldly cove]

bro

how would a visual

help you

[reef moon]

Visual indicator is needed, so is a global cd, and reduce the damn time it's active

[worldly cove]

its only 7 seconds

what

[reef moon]

So you can actually KNOW if they used it or not

7 seconds is MORE than enough time to mark someone fully what

[worldly cove]

we;;

well

[reef moon]

Especially when there's TWO

[worldly cove]

if they dont try to steal

then they used it

ofc

starting to actually thing ppl js suck

think*

plus just keep dribbling weirdly or use copycat or jackpot

[reef moon]

The problem is you can't do nun bout it half the time

[worldly cove]

they got insanely far dribbles

it works

a global cd is literally all it needs

lets not make it even more worse than copycat and jackpot

or even star

[reef moon]

A slight visual indicator ain't gonna kill the style bro

[worldly cove]

itll make it worse

i didnt say kill

[ivory matrix]

a auto steal move that lasts that long needs a indicator

[serene lance]

Bro what?

[worldly cove]

jackpot steal is a thing

[reef moon]

Bro how the hell would it make it worse you can still pressure people with it regardless😭

[reef moon]

You can react to jackpot steal lmao

[ivory matrix]

jackpot steal dont last 10000 years and can be reacted

[worldly cove]

not when they r out of ur cam

[reef moon]

Reach lasts for 7 seconds and it'd an entire GAMBLE on whether or not they have it

[serene lance]

Yall question https://discord.com/channels/1326149032384532530/1377154516742443038 is this a good suggestion

[shell whale]

jackpot steal has a startup

[worldly cove]

if they dont try to steal

then go for a dunk

????

or use a dribble move

[reef moon]

Keep in mind this thing blocks everything

[worldly cove]

or even speed dribbler with dribble tech

[ivory matrix]

i wouldnt use it

[serene lance]

?

[worldly cove]

not everything

[serene lance]

ok

[reef moon]

Yea but they can just not steal the ball and still activate it later it does not matter

This is why a visual indicator is needed

[worldly cove]

thats

dumb

js get better?

[reef moon]

A slight effect on the eyes when it's popped

You just want the style to stay cracked for no reason

[worldly cove]

emp is fine as it is rn

it js needs a global cd

[reef moon]

With the akashi pfp btw

[ivory matrix]

only thing it wouldnt block is dunks,if your getting garuded and your not by the hoop you legit cant do anything at all

[reef moon]

No bias

[worldly cove]

uh

a;r

alr

[reef moon]

Exactly

You are legit cooked

[worldly cove]

if ur not by the hoop then use a dribble move

???

[shell whale]

saying this proves you dont have anything else to say and that you just keep talking to rage bait

[worldly cove]

the dribble tech gets you at the 3rd point line already

without any dribble moves

ur fine

[ivory matrix]

your funny

[worldly cove]

ty

ty

[worldly cove]

nah its js

[reef moon]

I'm so glad majority of the people here don't think like bro

[worldly cove]

ppl that suck at the game

wnat it nerfed more

and more

like someone said give it a 3-5s

[shell whale]

its never been nerfed

[dawn depot]

This like Chrollo W reacting his own messages. 😭

[worldly cove]

i know?

[reef moon]

Rs

[ivory matrix]

i dont suck i use this class and i STILL think that reach is a stupid move

[shell whale]

so why say more

[worldly cove]

it gets annoying but i dont think its stupid

[ivory matrix]

i can agree with 5 seconds considering there is zero indicator

[worldly cove]

its meant to be good

literally is meant to be better

watch the movie

[shell whale]

good not game breaking

[ivory matrix]

its stupid as hell

[reef moon]

What typa logic is this bro

[worldly cove]

anime

[ivory matrix]

good dosent mean game ruining and your slow

[worldly cove]

game ruining?

[reef moon]

Let's make a 0.01 rarity and just let it make instant 3s then

[worldly cove]

woah

[reef moon]

Why not

[worldly cove]

hold up

emp didnt ruin the game

that was

jackpot

and copy cat

[shell whale]

yes it did

[worldly cove]

and perfection

[shell whale]

copy cat and perfection is where it started

[ivory matrix]

no i could handle jack pots and perfections easy

[worldly cove]

acting like these doesnt exist rn

[shell whale]

it keeps getting worse

[reef moon]

Perfection more fun to play against than emperor that style Is dumb

[worldly cove]

bro

perfection is so annoying

[reef moon]

And perf got super nerfed ALREADY

[worldly cove]

i could walk over the ball when they use that emp reach version of the one they got

andn dont grab it

its dumb

blink i think

[worldly cove]

still very annoying

but why are yall

[shell whale]

emp so much worse though

[worldly cove]

complaining

abrt

abt

emp

when copycat exists

and jackpot

[dawn depot]

Akashi pfp btw. 😭

[worldly cove]

uh

[shell whale]

why is bro acting like jackpot not mid rn

[worldly cove]

ok

dont got anything to do with it

[reef moon]

He don't want his favorite character nerfed is all

[shell whale]

sureeee

[ivory matrix]

i think perfection is bad and easy to go against

[worldly cove]

full court shot steals dribbles

steals feints

steals shots

dunks

[shell whale]

ult move

[worldly cove]

i forgot what else

ik

oh yea

[shell whale]

so does that mean sniper op then?

[reef moon]

Acting like ppl aren't already saying jackpot steal is braindead

[worldly cove]

flying the ball across the court to them

[worldly cove]

no

thats meant to have that

[shell whale]

so why is this

[reef moon]

We don't need MORE braindead styles because there are already some just BALANCE THE GAME

[worldly cove]

jackpot shouldnt even be a thing

[shell whale]

so should emp

[worldly cove]

IM TALKING ABT BC ITS NOT ORIGINAL

holy

[shell whale]

cuz its annoying

[worldly cove]

bro.

SO IS COPYCAR

CAT

[shell whale]

the game is not supposed to be a copy

[reef moon]

Watch basketball god be 10x worse

[shell whale]

its supposed to be original

[reef moon]

And ppl like this guy gonna say it needs to be broken because it's rare

[dawn depot]

Fighting unbalanced with unbalanced is how BLR ended up being World Class simulator.

[worldly cove]

TRY VERSING A COPYCAT WITH JACKPOT DRIBBLE AND SPEED DRIBBLER

ITS BROKEN

IF THEY NERF ANYTHING IT SHOULD BE COPYCAT

[reef moon]

Legit

[ivory matrix]

ngl how do you add something better after the GOD of basketball in a basketball game

[shell whale]

this is why chrillo got rid of blr to miro cuz he burnt the game by adding world class after wirld class

[worldly cove]

emp

isnt even that good

when it gets a global cd

[shell whale]

-10/10 rage bait

[reef moon]

Kids just want broken styles to carry them and when more and more get added it's just gg

[worldly cove]

its literally only "busted" when theres so many emps

[worldly cove]

not rage bait

[worldly cove]

nope

[reef moon]

I agree with the majority add a global cd

[worldly cove]

i main phantom btw

[reef moon]

Yup you sure do

[worldly cove]

i dont?

alr

bro

[shell whale]

this some bs

[worldly cove]

i duod for my brother

hes like

top 5

on 3 pointers

[reef moon]

It don't even matter the style is still brainless

[worldly cove]

fearfrost or smht like that

[ivory matrix]

we dont care about your brother

[shell whale]

what style

[reef moon]

Add global cd

[worldly cove]

didnt say u did]

[worldly cove]

flash

and he uses it right

[dawn depot]

"guys Emperor is balanced bc I play with my brother"

[shell whale]

i never see any flashes now adays

[worldly cove]

nope

i dont anymore

[reef moon]

Mindblown

[worldly cove]

i play by myself most of the time

[reef moon]

Emperor would be balanced if there was only ONE allowed on each team but that ain't the case

[worldly cove]

yea

thats

what

im

tryna

say

global cd

[dawn depot]

Show your ranked history. 😭

[worldly cove]

for each team

[worldly cove]

i dont play

i cant play

[dawn depot]

Yeah man alr.

[worldly cove]

takes me like 5 minutes to load

sadly

[ivory matrix]

ts funny to watch

[worldly cove]

only for this game

idkw

[dawn depot]

You're saying Emperor doesn't need to be nerfed but don't even play ranked. 💔

[reef moon]

Yea but even without reach the dribble is like a better flashstep

[worldly cove]

i played ranked before

[reef moon]

Insane work ain't it

[worldly cove]

but

stopped after

[dawn depot]

"no its ok bc I played ranked before Emperor released"

"so Emperor is balanced"

[worldly cove]

mhm

[dawn depot]

😭

[worldly cove]

no

[reef moon]

Big brain logic

[worldly cove]

it isnt balanced

yet

?????

global cd

then its balanced

its only not balanced bc theres so many in 1 server

[reef moon]

Imo there should not be dribbles that you legit just can't counter and leave your opponent free ash

[worldly cove]

no

thats annoying

no unbalanced

[reef moon]

Free eats with so many styles

And all their kits amplify it

Let's not talk about forced shot either

[worldly cove]

?

force shot

so easy to block

[dawn depot]

You get the stun of Flash with insane mobility as follow up.

[worldly cove]

i block them all the time

js look at the hands

it shoots sooner so u got more time to react

[reef moon]

"Easily blockable"

[dawn depot]

Like Dribble isn't even the most insane move ever, but it's the fact it's with Emperor where EVERY move is insane.

[worldly cove]

uh

flash goes the same range

?

[reef moon]

Holy

[dawn depot]

It's like if Jackpot had 4 move variants all as good as Steal.

[worldly cove]

i use flash aswell

yall clearly dont know the dribble tech

[dawn depot]

Hop on ranked then we talk lil vro. 😭

[reef moon]

Bro jus tlaking out his ah

[worldly cove]

cant

[worldly cove]

neh

im not talking

[reef moon]

2v2 with two emperors is torture

2 auto dribbles

2 insta steals

[worldly cove]

i had a whole public server with emps

[reef moon]

2 hard af shots

[worldly cove]

ik its annoying

[reef moon]

Then ult

[dawn depot]

Did you ever stop to consider that one time he's played with his brother? (pre Emperor release)

[worldly cove]

thats why i said global cd

[reef moon]

Jus end me gng

[worldly cove]

is good enough

[worldly cove]

uh

alright

still

[reef moon]

It has MORE issues than that though

[worldly cove]

the rank players i versed

[reef moon]

His dribble is FREE

[worldly cove]

sucked

[reef moon]

It's so dumb

[worldly cove]

i did like 7 matchs

i think

[reef moon]

You can't just double because now you got someone open

[worldly cove]

??

[reef moon]

Jus gotta eat the three

[worldly cove]

cant control where it goes

[reef moon]

And in ranked that's worse because of make it take it

[worldly cove]

plus it has like a end lag to it

[reef moon]

The endlag don't matter the person on the floor alr

[worldly cove]

for 1.5s

[dawn depot]

Yes you can?

[worldly cove]

in a decent match someone else would already be on me

[worldly cove]

how

the d and a?

i already tried that

didnt work

[dawn depot]

Wdym how that's a set animation. 😭

The end point is gonna be same trace of movement.

[worldly cove]

what r we talking abt

im confused

oh

ur saying itll only go left?

or right

?

[reef moon]

His stepback always goes back

Drive goes forwards

[ivory matrix]

i do this backwards dribble thing on the first dribble and its op

[dawn depot]

BUMP!

[worldly gyro]

It is not that broken fr-

A solid defense and it’s cooked. I beat a team of emperors with my friends… it’s really not that hard.

Even did ranked 3v3 against all emperors.

[worldly cove]

yea

exactly

thats why u use the dribble tech

its rlly only good when the player is good

[dense crescent]

What do you play on

[worldly cove]

most people dont know techs

[shell whale]

ngl i just did alot of ranked matches and beat alot of emps i went from silver 2 to gold 2

[final orbit]

If you were decent at the game you wouldn’t need him to be nerfed

[worldly cove]

doesnt even need a nerf

it js

needs global cd

[dense crescent]

Thats a nerf

[worldly cove]

not rlly

[dense crescent]

But yeah thats all it needs

[shell whale]

im starting to agree with global cooldown

and only the global

[dense crescent]

It is

[worldly cove]

it js stops ppl from spaming reach

[dense crescent]

Hmmm and a smaller window

[shell whale]

my biggest problem with it is its range

[worldly cove]

the range is small

sadly

[shell whale]

yea thats good too

[final orbit]

Yo what’s up with the awk range 😭

For his 2 pointer

[shell whale]

they using emp reach from the free throw line while im on the side and he hits me

[dense crescent]

But the rest of his kit is fine

[worldly cove]

?

like

[dense crescent]

Not too op imo

[worldly cove]

3rd point line

[final orbit]

What

[shell whale]

also in 2v2 rank the map is half so emp reach hits the whole thing

[dense crescent]

Btw is there a activation req or smth

Like u gotta be infront of them

[shell whale]

aslong as you are in covid 19 distance from the player

[shell whale]

yea but its really easy to do this

[dense crescent]

SO THATS WHY IT NEVER WORKS FOR ME

Omds

[worldly cove]

emp reach is NOT this far gng

[shell whale]

it heppens all the time

[worldly cove]

its like a few blocks

[shell whale]

they just appear

[worldly gyro]

Console and phone

[dense crescent]

W

[worldly gyro]

Exactly

[worldly gyro]

Thanks! Playing on phone is impossible

[dense crescent]

It is

The delays suck so much

[shell whale]

you just have to adapt to the bots that play emperor

[shell whale]

since they all play the same

[worldly cove]

LOL

ur funny

[worldly gyro]

Right! And when I got emperor, it’s not even that broken.

The auto block barely works…

[worldly cove]

good thing im not a bot then

[shell whale]

they run to you with emperor reach then dribble both times with emp dribble

well sometimes they add stuff

[worldly cove]

??

so

no techs

??

dang

[shell whale]

and those are the people that arent 75 overalls like the rest

[worldly cove]

thats sad

100 ovr is easy to get

[shell whale]

the 75 overalls dont even block

ik

my friend has emp and is 80 overall with 30 blocks 😭😭😭

[worldly cove]

uh

ok

[shell whale]

all he does is spam emps abilities

[worldly cove]

emp users dont rlly need to block

bro

rlly

[shell whale]

ik thats my problem with it

[worldly cove]

does he know any techs

[shell whale]

no

[worldly cove]

i still block

but if i dont gotta

i wont

emp vision helps aswlel

[shell whale]

emp visions bugged though

[worldly cove]

not the 25% miss chance

only impossible to be ab and 4th dribble

emp reach bugs aswell

sometimes dont work

[worldly gyro]

Right

[shell whale]

how do you even bug the 4th dribble

[worldly cove]

very common for me

[shell whale]

its been in the game before

[worldly cove]

they can steal it

sometimes

[worldly cove]

its only on emp vision

[worldly gyro]

That’s happened to me a lot.

[shell whale]

ik but perfectionist works fine

[worldly cove]

same

[worldly cove]

only for

emp

vision

the testers dont be testing nthn

[dense crescent]

@worldly cove omds are you dumb

[worldly cove]

no

[dense crescent]

Idk

[worldly cove]

?

[worldly gyro]

EMP vision for some reason doesn’t prevent me from being ankle broken either

[whole mesa]

its bugged

[worldly cove]

yea

[whole mesa]

because testers don't be testing and stuff

[worldly cove]

rs

and half the time the ball js falls out my hand

[dense crescent]

They know emp vision is bugged. They were asking why its bugged if 4th dribbles are already in the game.

[worldly cove]

and at the start of the game it js tps people to the ball

[whole mesa]

and i honestly think emp vision as a whole needs a rework, i really hate the "25% chance for people to miss their shots when you're close" part of the zone

[worldly cove]

yea

its only for

emp vision

[dense crescent]

Bro

Why do you keep repeating that.

[worldly cove]

yea

ts is so

weak

and the range sucks

[dense crescent]

Why

[worldly cove]

u gotta be like right by him

[worldly cove]

bc

its only bugged

on emp

????

[dense crescent]

Yeah but we heard you the first time

And the second time

[whole mesa]

the problem is not that its weak (even though it is)
It is uninspired, unoriginal, and kind of powercreep if it actually worked, like if emp vision zone worked it would just be unbreakable but with a 4th dribble.
It feels like emperor vision in name only

[dense crescent]

And the third time

[worldly cove]

u asked..

u called me dumb

and then asked

[dense crescent]

I didnt ask. And you didnt answer anyway.

Just repeated yourself

[worldly cove]

basically asking

[dense crescent]

Not even close to asking

[worldly cove]

wtv

[dense crescent]

Thats a statement

[whole mesa]

Does the 4th dribble on emp vision not work? i thought the only bugged part was the immunity to ankle breaks

[dense crescent]

It does the animation but it can be stolen

[whole mesa]

huh

[hazy vigil]

Doesn't have I frames

[glossy wigeon]

& you see the Emperor on your team are overall 50s who don't know what the buttons do & the enemy ones are overall 100s who play every day

[whole mesa]

alternatively you can get overall 100s who are still bad at the game

but thats rarer

[glossy wigeon]

Correct

[whole mesa]

keep thinking of this one dude i saw here that claimed they were overall 100 but also thought ace was overpowered

[dense crescent]

Its not

[glossy wigeon]

Like I'm new but I know what I'm doing. Yay, I got ace & I'm trying to test every character but I can barely do anything against 3 or more emp players

[dense crescent]

Well maybe it is in ranked

[worldly cove]

its balanced

not over powered

[whole mesa]

the worst emp user to face in BBZ are actually people who are under overall 100 but are alts

[glossy wigeon]

It feels that way when you're new then you figure out how to counter them

[whole mesa]

From what i know ace is actually kind of bad, the style itself is only usable because of athletic drive

Once you realize how to block athletic fade the style just has 1 good ability

[worldly cove]

its only "bad" bc we got better and over powered stuff now

[glossy wigeon]

That & 2 ult moves

[worldly cove]

people want the average mythical to be able to shoot from full court

jackpot

[hazy vigil]

Yea it got power crept still bad though

[worldly cove]

not bad at all

[whole mesa]

Its actually just bad, though the game has gotten better styles since

[worldly cove]

its balanced

jackpot ruined the game

[whole mesa]

listen i hate jackpot too but ace is not bad because it got powercrept, ace is just bad

[worldly cove]

shouldnt ever been added

ace is

balanced

ppl used to hate ace before anything else came out

[fossil jacinth]

emperor is NOT op enough

[glossy wigeon]

That feeling when you've made the perfect coordinated play with your team then an emp gets the ball because they pressed a button & stared at you. Or you miss because emp style said so

[hazy vigil]

Athletic fade is too predictable to have any usage with a 100 ovr that no lifes the game

[fossil jacinth]

just dunk??

[worldly cove]

if were being srs and talking abt in the movie

yes

[whole mesa]

Its poorly balanced, and even assuming it was actually balanced it is still an outdated style that doesn't represent the character correctly

[glossy wigeon]

Nothing should be op, even if it's rarer it should not be inherently busted.

[dawn depot]

Yeah balance aside it’s just low quality.

[worldly cove]

if they rework ace it shouldnt get better it should js get better anims

[whole mesa]

it should get reworked altogether tbh

[worldly cove]

js nerf copycat and jackpot

make them balanced

[glossy wigeon]

Copycat main, yeah he's busted

[worldly cove]

gaint aswell

[fossil jacinth]

js fix reach so it works on dunks and make the emperor's dribble just him walking by instead of doing allat

[worldly cove]

the push move

is so

busted

like 3 second stun

[glossy wigeon]

The perma emp dribble doesn't help

[fossil jacinth]

what Perma emp dribble???

[worldly cove]

?

what

when was that a thing

[hazy vigil]

You have the best movement in the game when you're stuck with this btw

[glossy wigeon]

There's a bug at least on xbox, when you copy emp dribble it won't go back to copy so you keep ot the whole game

[worldly cove]

they gotta redo the game tbh

way to laggy for some reason

takes me like 5 minutes to load

[hazy vigil]

Well unless Evolution+speed dribble (still busted btw)

[whole mesa]

yeah so optimization gets worse each update

[glossy wigeon]

You can just, dribble, flow, emp dribble, dribble again

But there's cases I'd rather have something else

[worldly cove]

uh

when was

[digital mist]

I HAVE BEEN SAYING THIS

[worldly cove]

emp te best

[digital mist]

BUGS EVERYWHERE

[worldly cove]

rs

infested

with bugs

[digital mist]

The bugs looking like termites at this point

[light plinth]

the cape of emperor gave me some heavy lag

[whole mesa]

i've seen bee hives with less bugs than this game

[glossy wigeon]

Game freezes, some scores, then it unfreezes & the screen shakes for 30 seconds

[hazy vigil]

When copycat is stuck with emperor's dribble they have the best movement in the game

[worldly cove]

yea

copycat

[hazy vigil]

Yea that's what we were talking about?

[worldly cove]

jackpot or copy cat has the best dribbles

[worldly cove]

idk

i js seen

emp is the best

dribble

big lie

[hazy vigil]

Okie dokie

[digital mist]

I’m spawning in the corner every time

Do you see my character just disassemble?

[worldly cove]

bro the ball went into the hoop backwards for me like 3 times now

made me lose the game

and it went in when people blocked

they gotta fix it soon

the game isnt playable

[digital mist]

Block don’t even work right

[worldly cove]

and the hitboxes

r just

horrid

starting to think people r 9 1

hitting ts out the clouds

and stealing it from miles away

[small flume]

mhh emperor should get a reduce reach window that's all

[worldly cove]

no

global cd

all it needs

[digital mist]

Yet people will make suggestions about adding new styles like that won’t make the game more buggy

[small flume]

what is global cd

[worldly cove]

if 1 uses it

no one else can till the cd is up

[digital mist]

People need to get together and tell them to fix the bugs

[small flume]

that's smart that would reduce amount of emperor in a server

[worldly cove]

i rarely see people talk abt them in the general chat

[digital mist]

Because they’re so busy on trying to get their style added to the game they’re ignoring the actual flaws that are going on

[hazy vigil]

They prioritize the unplaytested and bug ridded content first we love Roblox devs

[worldly cove]

yea

to focused on the characters

[whole mesa]

i mean, new styles don't inherently make the game more buggy, the bugs come regardless of the style

[glossy wigeon]

I actively try to intercept, nothing. The enemy stands next to me doing nothing & they get it

[whole mesa]

We currently need a BIG balance and bugfix update

[digital mist]

But the bugs are already riddled everywhere

[whole mesa]

and then we need reworks

[digital mist]

Especially with emperor

[whole mesa]

we can lay off the styles for a while

[worldly cove]

i would rather have a bug fix update than a character update

[digital mist]

And if they do some combo thing with different character, characters, who knows what basketball gods moves can do

[worldly cove]

they rlly gotta reduce the lag tho

[digital mist]

They might be bugged as hell

[dawn depot]

Make a whole deal about update event and then Zone doesn’t even work. 😭

[whole mesa]

balance and bugfix, then ace rework update, trust

[dawn depot]

Like Y’ALL set the deadline.

[digital mist]

EXACTLY

[worldly cove]

its from some cartoon

like gumball i think

[digital mist]

Regular show

[worldly cove]

o

[digital mist]

It’s peak don’t get me wrong

But it’s gonna make so much more bugs

[worldly cove]

shouldnt be a thing

tbjh

i want original characters

jackpot already ruined the game

[small flume]

the only thing that unbalanced at the moment is:playmaker alley hoop in 2v2,ultimate pass,emperor reach,star sky leap range range TwT and copycat whole moveset

[worldly cove]

i stopped playing after jackpot came out

but

[digital mist]

Isn’t that just hakari

[worldly cove]

i came back

[worldly cove]

?

perfection is cell

[digital mist]

Jackpot

[hazy vigil]

Alley oop is blockable

[worldly cove]

mhm

[digital mist]

I meant to tag you in the jackpot, ruining the game

[small flume]

didn't know

[digital mist]

So would you even count that as original?

If it’s just Hikari

[worldly cove]

its not

[digital mist]

With basketball slapped on it

I can’t lie, though you are alone I like adding different characters to the game

[worldly cove]

they should remove it

[whole mesa]

Jackpot is in fact, hakari balling

[hazy vigil]

Hakari didn't make gambling

[digital mist]

I feel like it. It’s a creative way to get your fans into it.

But like you can’t keep doing it if the bugs are not getting fixed

[worldly cove]

they should only add dif characters if it will be balanced

jackpot can fly the ball to them have a full court shot steal through dribbles and feints and shots u cant even react when ur in a feint or shot or pass

and the dribble

[digital mist]

Be fr

[worldly cove]

is probably the best dribble

[digital mist]

What character is gonna be not busted on release?

[worldly cove]

the farthest dribble

[digital mist]

Except for Chuck

And even then, there was a bug for him anyway

[worldly cove]

jackpot has been in the game

for a while

[hazy vigil]

Atleast the full court shot is blockable

[whole mesa]

(this is not a good argument)

[worldly cove]

still

only sniper

should have that

[hazy vigil]

The Lucky pull you just have to read

[worldly cove]

still

itsbusted

they can pull it from full court

free 3

they can steal dribbles aswell

its busted

[hazy vigil]

Mark them that's what I do

[digital mist]

I feel like we shouldn’t really care much about styles and nerfing styles and focus more on

[worldly cove]

copy cat with ts is way more bsuted

[whole mesa]

if you pull it from full court its not free anymore since you can just mark them

[digital mist]

FIXING THE DAMN BUGS

[worldly cove]

yea

[digital mist]

We got a whole damn infestation over here

[whole mesa]

we should just do both

[worldly cove]

the bugs r the thing they need to fix the most

[digital mist]

No, because then it will take too much time

[digital mist]

That to

[hazy vigil]

I prefer a bug fix rather than balance rn

[worldly cove]

its been like a week and they didnt fix even one yet

[dawn depot]

Most balancing is numerical value tweaking, unless you mean reworks.

[hazy vigil]

Emperor's vision is still bugged

[worldly cove]

yea

[whole mesa]

balancing would not take that much time and neither would bugfixing

[worldly cove]

if it wasnt bugged that would be a huge hel[

help

[whole mesa]

unless they do full on reworks

[dawn depot]

Waiting a week to do bug fixes is so lame when they set their own upd deadline. 😭

Pretty much dropping the Zone a week later.

[worldly cove]

the game was updated today

but

nthn is fixxed

or new

[whole mesa]

and then they'll drop the zone another week late because emperor vision needs an entire rework

[digital mist]

Emperor grab and block are both bugged