and to add even more it has a super long cooldown. when you're wasting it on air half the time
#nerfed sky jump? why
hushed mango
rework? you just mean nerf and added 1 move that's kinda grabo
the new move is also horrible? you juke back and forth so small so staying in the middle is a prefect counter. because after doing this you can't shoot or dash or do anything at all besides get robbed. just another ability to be spammed when dude is miles away from getting stolen so he 100% can't be blocked
after doing some testing you can sky jump during a block not after
has it always been like this maybe?
nope i take it back. if you do a block anmation you 100% can;t sky jump
nerf something completely fine as it's not spammable. leave pump fake passing in main game only changing it in 3v3. like legit let players get steals when they pump fake. pumpfake shouldn't make you immune i read you weren'ty going to shoot so i didn't jump i waited and steal
dark knot
missing the forest for the tree here
the idea behind the can't block and then leap is universal now
happens to blink, snatchblock, sky leap
the idea is to punish someone for trying to have 100% coverage on defense
it was never fair for someone to be smart enough to bait a block only to shoot on an intelligent bait and then snatchblock, sky leap, or blink to recover from the mistake
now you actually, yknow, have to use your brain
and intelligently decide to use your skill or confidently attempt a block
as far as the new skill, simply adapt 
sturdy patrol
thanks James for explaining the correct answer for the nerfs
hushed mango
But oher styles immediately steal or block instantly without fail sky junp has to pre use. It's too slow to be used after a faint
Pump fakes stll makes you immune from steals how is it fair that i didn't jump for the faint but can't do anything about the immediately pass.
Talk about things not being fair when that's 95% of the game just made star worse with no upsides like ubg did to hitman
Sky jump is prediction literally ever other steal is automatic on reaction there is no falling for a fake.
dark knot
Pump fakes stll makes you immune from steals how is it fair that i didn't jump f...
because that isn't the point of sky leap. it's not snatch block that's meant to be used on reaction. it's meant to be a massive leap cross court to beat anyone else to a rolling ball from a block or missed throw
star is incredibly powerful when you use its abilities as intended: it's a read. it's meant to be an instant punish when you download someone's repetitive habits
you will get possession 100% of the time if a bot dribs 3 times and passes every time. you sky leap on the 2nd drib and by time you're in the air you'll have stolen the ball and you can pass it to an open teammate
you also need to remember that before the nerf sky leap was used to steal a ball that was going into the net by jumping and then sky leaping
there was a top 10 comp team that literally got to the top by just waiting for the enemy to shoot 3's and then sky leapt to catch the ball before going into the net. it was extremely corny
now all 100% coverage abilities are unable to execute after a block to avoid this from happening. all styles have to intelligently use their abilities instead of jumping empty like a bot and then just having a guaranteed snatch after the person who has the ball successfully faked you out
stop whining about brainless strats being gutted, and get better at the game by using your brain to play the game
solid relic
Boss went silent after this intelligent breakdown
hushed mango
it's not meant to be that either, remind me how you're picking up the ball when you're a mile in the air? why keep in something unfair but nerf the thing that's perfectly fine. you still refuse to even speak on punk fakes being immune to steals. and there's low odds you can block it because they can hold the ball as long as they like and can always change the timing
every other steal abilty auto locks and steals without fail. it's reaction, sky jump can only steal from a shot. what's the point of sky jump if you can't even steal the ball outta mid air
the only use is for blocking and stealing which is removed. one pump fake and sky jump is vender useless
dark knot
ok so your focus is totally changing now. now you think pumpfakes are broken therefore star shouldn't have been nerfed. what a useless train of thought
if you think pumpfakes are broken just give it up man. it's a very simple and fundamental fake out that can easily be adapted to. blocks are done on reaction and if a player is constantly faking you out and you refuse to adapt by just waiting instead of jumping immediately like a bot that's a flat out skill issue
you only get a couple seconds after a pumpfake before you can get stolen from. if you can't get that down, maybe get in a private server and lab it out
hushed mango
pump fake gives you iframes and you can't steal the ball
they are immune from the only thing stopping them from passing right away
dark knot
yeah, you get like 2 seconds of immunity. if they wait longer than that you can flat out rip the ball from them
hushed mango
pump fake passing is removing in 3v3 but not main game
so why even bother balancing half of the game
dark knot
don't jump like a bot immediately and then slap on reaction when they try to pass or shoot
hushed mango
you don't jump and they pass right away
you wait and they pass
you should be able to steal the ball
they shouldn't get to hold the ball just cause they faked
long mason
hushed mango
if you don't jump for the fake you should get to steal it
dark knot
you are some cheeks if you get mixed 100% of the time to the point you think it's impossible to go against a pumpfake lol
dark knot
you've made it clear as crystal you're just upset you can't whiff a block and then sky leap to cover your own whiff just admit it
this was the intended purpose
hushed mango
every other steal is reaction
dark knot
adapt or stop playing, gl
hushed mango
sky jump is predection
you aren't sky jumping a pump fake it's too slow
they gonna pass it everytime
you should be able to steal the ball. there should be no iframes
it's not a dribble it's a fake shot
if you don't jump you should get to steal because you read them
but no is stil their turn
pump fake passing was removed from 3v3 for a reason
no point in it not just being fixed by removing the steal iframes
fake someone not jumping you should lose the ball cause they steal it from you
blocking is all prediction based, you aren't blocking a fake unless they throw it the same every single time
obtuse yacht
i mean half the time for me at least pump fakes just dont work
hushed mango
stealing pumps should be a thing and it fixes pump fake. if you jump you lost, if you hold your ground and steal you run it
obtuse yacht
whenever i want to pump it shoots and when i want to shoot it pumps
hushed mango
pump fake is a extra dribble anything you can abuse with dribble you can do with a pump fake
it's a extra dribble for no reason
even if it was like the other game where you can steal right as they run out of dribbles
you can just pump fake and dodge the steal you should of ate
and if they stole like you should you broke their ankles with 0 dribbles left
obtuse yacht
and the weird iframes you get for some reason the second you get the ball
hushed mango
to add even further i'm not play the other styles but i bet you can't waste them. just like the must have a ball you can only use the abilty when you can block. so you get to spam it and react for free and never fall for a fake
one takes a read the others snipe you from half way across the middle line. try and sky jump it and you aren't getting the ball
that was sky jump 1 thing besides reading a shot and making it in time
it's not even about not being able to use it after a block anyways it's how long it takes to allow you too
you say it for catching loose balls but if you get a block 9/10 the guy behind him or he will get it right back for free
and sky jump is not useable to grab the ball right away
or if you miss a block on a pass and want to jump over to play D and you can't and your stuck mid court doing nothing
everyone else can dash half way down the court and star runs back and forth like 6 steps and you can't shoot dribble or do anything.
such long ending lag for a move with such high cooldown
what next, not being able to knock down a dunk is fair? you shouldn't have let them get so close to the basket when you can't ever steal the ball. 3 dribbles insta pass no way to steal the ball besides blocking. which they aren't doing cause they are dunking. if it's a arcade basketball game there's no point in fixing things when it's all meant to be a bs arcade basketball game
copper quest
what next, not being able to knock down a dunk is fair? you shouldn't have let t...
err m actually they added blocking a dunk
b4 u couldnt even dunk
bleak jacinth
U know i was lowkey on your side until you started saying they need to remove iframes for pump fakes
Then you lost all credibility after that
hushed mango
explain why you need it
if they jump what do you need i frame for?
oh yeah to prevent getting stolen when they read that fake from a mile away
bleak jacinth
Did you forget people can steal mid air?
bleak jacinth
shoot it when they jump
Blocked
hushed mango
oh good hevens they are gonna steal the air coming outta your nose
no they jumped
as soon as they jump you can shoot
bleak jacinth
As long as they are in the AIR, the blocking window is still there
hushed mango
pumk fake needs no iframes
bleak jacinth
It does need iframes
bleak jacinth
Because without it, people are guaranteed to either get blocked or stolen from
hushed mango
no you want you're free points button
legit hold s and fade away and they can't block it
don't even need to fake to shoot
bleak jacinth
The range for a block is more than you think
Trust me i know
I play in high ranks
bleak jacinth
know because you play on 30 fps
144 fps but okay?
bleak jacinth
Lmao u losing this thread so ur going irl now?
Grow up
Just admit you need sky leap to bail you out because you cant read a simple pump fake
hushed mango
you keep making excuses for a non existing block window
bleak jacinth
you keep making excuses for a non existing block window
Its very existent lmao
hushed mango
blocking is predction, if you could just jump when ever you felt and still blocked then it would be reaction based
thats why a fake is good
you think someone sees ur arms go up and gose OOOO JUMP
no they guessed you were gonna shoot and jumped
bleak jacinth
You jump and u get like 0.8 seconds of block window
hushed mango
pump is nothing more then a extra dribble cause you refuse to pass and you wanna shoot
if you fail to fake someone they should get to steal it from you plain as day
pass the ball
you're meant to do it anyways when you run out of dribblesd
not fake so you can be a ball hog because you legit can't fail
bleak jacinth
Normally id agree with you but with the games mechanics, that would make defense insanely broken to the point youd need abilities to even score
slim folio
it would legit just be a better and more veratile snatch block
hushed mango
3v3 pump fakes were removed for a reason
slim folio
the nerf is fine
bleak jacinth
Pump fake is necesarry more than you think
hushed mango
it isn't
it's a extra dribble
it's fooling no one
they jumped because they read you
bleak jacinth
3v3 pump fakes were removed for a reason
Yeah and because of that, comp players are getting 10+blocks a game
hushed mango
no one is jumping after a fake they see
hushed mango
they claim 2 sec of i frame so you get to shoot or pass in those 2 sec
bleak jacinth
Hey man i aint the one complaining over an ability not bailing me out because i cant read a pump fake
slim folio
pump fakes are easy to guard
slim folio
legit just wait for them to jump
bleak jacinth
pump fakes are easy to guard
Not for this guy apparently, he needs sky jump to bail him
hushed mango
sky jump 1 thing besides getting lose balls which it shouldn't even be able to do was double blocking
bleak jacinth
Thats why this thread was started in the first place
If you fall for a pump fake, you deserve to get scored on
Sky and snatch are meant to catch a shot from a distance
hushed mango
they added a horrible move to star then nerfed the only useable move
you're in the sky
how are you catching a ground ball
bleak jacinth
Not some sort of escape jail card for you to use for playing bad defense
bleak jacinth
how are you catching a ground ball
You dont, you use the distance to get there first
hushed mango
no
bleak jacinth
Do you even know the techs star has?
hushed mango
you sky jump and you pick up the ball mid air not even being close to it
bleak jacinth
Okay so youre complaining about that?
hushed mango
but no thats fair and should not be patched yeah?
slim folio
I think your just bad with star bro
bleak jacinth
Pair that up with phantom and u can go up against top style
hushed mango
it's drive is teribble, sky jump cool down takes forever. and it's ult requires you to get into the paint
bleak jacinth
the message is pump fakes should get stolen
Uh no? you literally have your thread title as nerfed sky jump
hushed mango
every other style you're ulting miles away
bleak jacinth
Stop contradicting yourself
slim folio
star can use dash to make runs and get away from defenders
slim folio
you just gotta be smart
hushed mango
then you can';t dribble or shoot
your dead in the waters forced to pass and the defender is gonna block it 100%
slim folio
then you can';t dribble or shoot
you get open for your teammates
hushed mango
he runs back and forth like 6 steps
bleak jacinth
If you cant gain distance from your opponents after using dash then thats a massive skill issue
hushed mango
any other style you can fly across the court and still shoot it
it's not even a dash
he runs left and right for about 6 steps
you aint losing anyone
bro gonna have to be on 20fps for him to lose you
slim folio
from my experience with star it works fijen
hushed mango
better to save it for running to a shooter and blocking
bleak jacinth
You gain the same amount of distance as lucky bounce or even flow step first stage
slim folio
I think you just gotta get better bro
bleak jacinth
Thats more than enough to get an open shot
bleak jacinth
What😂
hushed mango
you jump back and forth and just to go back to the middle where you started
all dude has to do is keep walking with you because it's super slow and has huge end lag
bleak jacinth
I dont think ur using it right my guy
slim folio
has this guy used star?
hushed mango
i don';t think you've used it
bleak jacinth
has this guy used star?
I think he does, just doesnt know how to use it
hushed mango
rework means new
they added 1 thing new animations and nerfed him.
bro should be a uncommon now
bleak jacinth
They didnt nerf him, they nerfed all, what are you not getting
You cant use snatch or blink now after jumping
hushed mango
all the other ones are reaction based
you aint jumping
you spam button and can't use it untill you're able to block
bleak jacinth
Yes but if you fall for a pump fake, you cant use snatch or blink to bail you out
hushed mango
you
aren't
jumping
for a fake
when your ability auto steals the ball and you can't fail
bleak jacinth
Yes
You
Do
What are you not getting at
If you have to use an ability to block then thats a bad trade off
hushed mango
the steals are press 1 button and teleport
sky jump has to read and time the jump and be in range
slim folio
I understand blink but snatch works like any other block move
bleak jacinth
You will lose games 100% if you rely on an ability to get blocks
hushed mango
if you sky jump up close you just miss the ball or pass
slim folio
if you pump fake the giant is still gone
hushed mango
no one's jumping for fakes
if fakes are so easy to counter then fade away and side jumping is better
no one jumping at you and if they do they will be too behind to block
slim folio
that’s a good instance to use skyleap since those are easy to predict but hard to guard
bleak jacinth
Does this guy think people just jump straight up and dont use their movement keys to block along with?
hushed mango
pump fake needs no iframes, you just want to spam it because it's a extra dribble
bleak jacinth
Nobody just presses Space to block and thats it
hushed mango
you get to the point line and know you can't shoot it but you refuse to pass it
bleak jacinth
They move along with their block
hushed mango
you wanna score so you spam pump fake
bleak jacinth
You cant even spam pump fake anymore what
slim folio
you have super dunk
hushed mango
pump fake passing get's removed or you can steal and you quit the game and you know it
bleak jacinth
What are you even saying?
hushed mango
you only need 1 pump to get the i frames
and you pass right away
you can pass at any point during the iframe
no one is priedcting that
bleak jacinth
Dude idc about pump passing, i play ranked that doesnt exist there
hushed mango
it's removed from 3v3 for a reason
so remove it from all game
f it's so op it's ruining comp why is it even still in the game?
why fix half game
fix whole game
why remove options add counters
slim folio
if it’s ruining comp then that’s clearly just a player problem
hushed mango
counter being if they fake and you don't jump you steal it
slim folio
it’s not hard to guard pumpfakes
hushed mango
remove jump stealing
bleak jacinth
Its not even ruining comp, its just making it show and separate the weaklings to the strong ones
hushed mango
2 sec of i frames that they can shoot at any point in
you ain't reacting
it is because it's gone
keep making exuses, you don't even play ranked cause it got removed
you all ready told us
bleak jacinth
keep making exuses, you don't even play ranked cause it got removed
Bro thats all i play what are you yapping about
Im literally in the leaderboard
hushed mango
you just want to spam pump fakes
anyone on the lb is grinding not talking
you'd be off the lb by now
bleak jacinth
Smh give me 3 mins
hushed mango
lb is a daily grind always
there is no down time
you just don't wanna lose pump pass in casual cause you'd quit just like ranked
there's no single reason to only fix half of the game
if pump passing is not allowed in ranked why not casual
bleak jacinth
Buddy i dont play normal servers anymore
I dont even pump pass
And i barely pump fake
slim folio
impressive
bleak jacinth
Its just a massive skill issue in your part
Get good
Stop complaining about an ability bailing you out
Learn how to adapt
Less yapping more practicing
slim folio
now that’s crazy
hushed mango
bro really think a random ss of someone flexing is gonna fool anyone
see you keep catching yourself in a lie
you barely pump fake
yet you play ranked
where you infact
can;t
meaning you're just lying
hushed mango
if earl here pumped fake you all game long
did nothing else
you'd not block him once
punp fake is broken and that's why it's not in ranked
slim folio
mofo had to puff that penjamin
hushed mango
but keep making excuses for something you don't even use cause you wanna aruge
bleak jacinth
Search up my username on roblox
Tell me what my bio says
Earl
Do me a favor
Screenshot it
slim folio
but keep making excuses for something you don't even *use* cause you wanna aruge
pumpfakes aren’t good anyways
hushed mango
you just a bum unc
slim folio
I suck and I don’t use them
bleak jacinth
Lmao thats not even me
slim folio
you just a bum unc
yo this has to be trolling
hushed mango
thats you thats your name and face thats everything there is
bleak jacinth
hushed mango
yeah i can do that too
slim folio
ferocious Fred over here going to change his bio
bleak jacinth
He doesnt know how delusional he is rn
hushed mango
how he do that
hushed mango
okay let me log into his account
wow the add freind button is gone
i must be him
wowie
bleak jacinth
To prove youre delusional lmao
hushed mango
you just wanna aurge cause you're lonely
pump fake was removed for a reason get over it
deft wagon
what is happening
bleak jacinth
what is happening
He wants pump fake to have no iframes
deft wagon
pump fake was removed for a reason get over it
Delusional
hushed mango
someone reads you're punk fake they should get to steal the ball
bleak jacinth
And wants star leap to bail him out when he gets baited with pump fake
deft wagon
need I say more
hushed mango
you shouldn't get 2 sec of iframe to hold the ball and pass or shoot for free
deft wagon
someone reads you're punk fake they should get to steal the ball
Least obvious star main
😭✌️💔🥀
bleak jacinth
😭
hushed mango
the ending lag is too long
hushed mango
bro gonna act like you can't do it on mobile
deft wagon
bro gonna act like you can't do it on mobile
Do what lol
hushed mango
just gonna block yall from the post cause yall trolling
deft wagon
Pump fake?
slim folio
bro notice how it’s identical
bleak jacinth
Hahaha
deft wagon
I can pump fake in moblie
bleak jacinth
This is too funny man
deft wagon
What is it about chat..
bleak jacinth
What is it about chat..
He thinks i sent a fake ranked picture of me being in lb
deft wagon
Isn't even about pump faking anymore
bleak jacinth
So i sent him a photo of my actual acount
slim folio
look at my style idea ts is tuff
bleak jacinth
I told him i dont even play normal servers and im all over ranked
deft wagon
might be spec
bleak jacinth
So i know what it is for a life behind no pump passes iframes
Yet he refuses to believe in it
Looll
He left the thread
deft wagon
Lmao