delete or full rework perfection.

[lean frost]

nah aint losing my perfection

[real bear]

Bro

i cant.

[crisp sand]

depends on how many slots you got

[lean frost]

f2p player will not

most probably

[slow elm]

Yea

Its not that deep

[real bear]

Bro

[crisp sand]

He’s like the golden child of this game I’m sure people will spin him even if they have perfection

[real bear]

when u constantly say stupid stuff

its so irritating to read

[slow elm]

Prolly

[lean frost]

people will instead create alt accounts ngl

[slow elm]

What if the ragebait is all apart of the plan

[real bear]

it wasnt

[slow elm]

Literally me

[real bear]

ur just wrong

[lean frost]

same

[real bear]

and u dont wanna admit it

[slow elm]

That im wrong that perfection doesn't give u a 100% winrate?

[real bear]

no

[slow elm]

Yup I'm totally wrong

[real bear]

that ur wrong that someone said perfection gives u 100% inwrate

like bro

ive said this like 3 times now

why are u still being stupid asf omg

how old are u

[lean frost]

just stop arguing we will get nowhere with this

[slow elm]

Ong

[real bear]

i hate stupid mfs like wtf is ur school doin

r they like teaching u bruh

[lean frost]

aight chill my guy

[real bear]

im chill.

no worries.

[lean frost]

aight

soo umm this post is considered

L OR W

From my side L

[slow elm]

Lowkey looking up at the post

@real bear can't lie you might be wrong lowkey hella valid points by the others defending stating that perfection is not op

[real bear]

?

[lean frost]

just stop

[real bear]

bro im arguing against u saying someone said perfection gives 100% winrate

idc about any of that

[slow elm]

We not on that

[real bear]

okay so u changed topics because u realized u were wrong?

[slow elm]

No

[real bear]

then we're done talking

[slow elm]

Because you were wrong and arguing?

[real bear]

until u admit ur wrong i have no care for anything else

if u keep being stubborn thats up to u

[lean frost]

Man wish could have spinned for the perfection zone too

[slow elm]

Thanks for arguing against me, even though I was legit stating that perfection is not op

[slow elm]

Ehh its okay

[real bear]

like i cant believe some of these mfs actually attend school

[slow elm]

Thank you

Your too kind

[lean frost]

bro then i wouldnt be called perfect tho

[real bear]

no im being dead serious

ur so horrible at arguing its irritating

[slow elm]

True bro

[real bear]

like what grade are u in

[slow elm]

11th but its good to know I'm living in your head for free

[real bear]

11th?

yea generation is cooked

[slow elm]

Because its Legos gang.

[real bear]

guy is like 16 and doesnt know how to argue

[slow elm]

If I wanted to go ball out and argue with you

Would of done so

[real bear]

u wouldnt be able to argue with me

ur quite literally not smart enough lol

ur points are horrible

and u ruin ur side

[lean frost]

yeah imma go guys cya gn

[real bear]

it is the same as talking to a little child

[slow elm]

You agreed with me by the way

So thanks for it

[slow elm]

Goodnight gang

[lean frost]

tomorrow my UT wish me luck

[slow elm]

Oo wish you well

[real bear]

everyone knows perfecton doesnt have a 100% winrate

u claimed someone here said it

[lean frost]

thx!

[real bear]

i asked u to show me where

and u couldnt

thats ur whole argument destroyed

and u proven wrong

do u understand it now

[slow elm]

My argument was

[real bear]

or do i have to say it slower

[slow elm]

You know what, your clearly not understanding where I was getting at

[real bear]

oh

my

god

im done

[slow elm]

So as the bigger person I'm stepping down

[real bear]

im DONE

[slow elm]

Thanks

[real bear]

STop talking bro please.

[slow elm]

I needed to ragebait

[real bear]

Bro gon make me tweak

Istg why are people getting dumber in this world

How are u 2 grades over me

[slow elm]

Thanks for the ragebait

[real bear]

and u act like this

like omggg

why am i smarter than 11th graders

[slow elm]

Because its ragebait

[real bear]

u gotta pay attention in school bro

or join the debate club and learn 😹

[slow elm]

Yeah your getting ragebaited

So hard

Please just stop

[real bear]

i dont care because im right lol

[slow elm]

For my sanity

[real bear]

alr ima go do somethin

knowing i beat u

😹

[slow elm]

Your actually getting ragebaited badly

[real bear]

GOodbye.

[slow elm]

Thanks for the ragebait

Just stop

@real bear since I ragebaited you im gonna apologize since I dont want you to dwell on it

[real bear]

Bro i relaly just beat an 11th grader in an argument bruh

[slow elm]

My apologies if the ragebait worked, I dont want you to dwell on this loss.

[real bear]

Ts crazy am i the goat

[slow elm]

Well if the ragebait worked I mean idk

[real bear]

Call me Lebron James

[slow elm]

I'll call you hmm

Ragebait #1008

[real bear]

Im still suprirsed i beat an 11th grader in an argument lol

[slow elm]

What argument

[real bear]

didnt think i was movin clean like that.

[slow elm]

I stopped doing that and started ragebaiting

[real bear]

i MAY be the goat.

[slow elm]

Err

Wait

[real bear]

9th grader beating an 11th grader LOO-

[slow elm]

This is ragebait to get back at me

Dang I fell for it

Oh well

Best not to dwell at the loss

Fair play

I won the ragebait so you came back and ragebaited

Well done

[real bear]

How did i even beat him in an argument bro

Hes 2 years older than me

[slow elm]

I should probably charge my phone the ragebaiting session is over

[real bear]

Im really steppin out of this with a win huh

Anotha one for the books against people that are older than me

gg.

[slow elm]

Thanks

For the win

@real bear anything else we gotta settle or na

[real bear]

I alrady beat u so ima go now

gg no re.

11th grader too that i won against 😭

[slow elm]

Wait oh my goodness this guy is cooking

[real bear]

gg no re.

ima show my friends this lmao

ts is crazy

[real bear]

im gettin better bro

[slow elm]

Okay you can tell them to add me

[real bear]

gg no re.

[slow elm]

I'll tell them how u got ragebaited

[real bear]

gg no re.

[slow elm]

And then think u won

[real bear]

gg no re.

[slow elm]

Because at the end of the day I'm the bigger person

[real bear]

gg no re.

[slow elm]

So ill let the kid have there win

[real bear]

gg no re.

[frosty lance]

"gg no re." if gay

[real bear]

gg no re.

[frosty lance]

YOU GAY?

[slow elm]

Dang

[real bear]

Yea i like men

[slow elm]

That got me

[frosty lance]

type shi

nothing wrong with that

[real bear]

gg no re.

[slow elm]

Lowkey

[frosty lance]

now hug it out and stop arguing

frfr

[slow elm]

I mean I have been but yk children gotta have there moments

So best let them win yk

[real bear]

im glad u realiezd i won 😹

[slow elm]

I dont think you should be happy I said anything

[real bear]

gg no re.

[dusky goblet]

Most busted thing ever in 2s lmao. Literally infinite perfect step and when you get his awk the dribble distance lets you shoot from basically anywhere.

[weary sand]

what rank did it get you to in 2s

[dusky goblet]

This is simply not true. I know you dont have perfect because the blink distance is infinitesimal, you have to be within half a 2 point zones range to blink.

[dusky goblet]

I dont play 2s because its dogshit.

[slow elm]

People are forgetting that when you blink you can score for the other team

[weary sand]

yea so u have no idea what ur saying

its trash in 2s and it scored for my team 3 times in a row

i willingly let them blink

theyll probably score for me anyways if not then u just go to the hoop and take the ball

lmfao

it doesnt do anything but either score for u or give u a free dunk

perfect dribbles good but i play with a giant user on my team

so just snatch block and move on

pretty much a useless style

even if u use perfect step instead of perfect shot its just the same 2 points every other style gets with their dribble move into a dunk

coming from someone whos almost diamond in 2s..

[dusky goblet]

Its not hard to use blink.

[real bear]

perfectionist aint useless in 2s

[dusky goblet]

If you score for the other team using blink you're a crutch.

[real bear]

its just not as good as other styles like giant

[dusky goblet]

Ive used it so many times to stop dunks, to stop shot early enough to where it doesnt go in.

[weary sand]

they have no choice to because the 2s court is small blink has a high chance of scoring for the enemy team

[dusky goblet]

No it doesnt at all.

[slow elm]

Woah wait a second this guy is onto something

[weary sand]

it quite literally does have a high failure chance

[slow elm]

It does

[dusky goblet]

Saying "quite literally" doesnt make you right.

Youre going agaisnt very silly perfect users.

[slow elm]

Gang icl hes not wrong it has happened a good bit of times

[weary sand]

idk whos letting u stop dunks with blink but if they are then they’re garbage

because even then if you blink infront to stop a dunk im just passing to my tm or stepping back for a free 3

[lunar mason]

https://tenor.com/view/perfect-cell-balling-perfect-cell-dragon-ball-z-ballin-cell-ballin-gif-6400456760564649584

[weary sand]

who is genuinely losing to perfection in 2s

[dusky goblet]

Idk whos letting you score shots with blink?

[weary sand]

i know i aint 😭 😭

[slow elm]

The people who made the post...

Praying for em rn

[real bear]

i mean yea its not good but it aint completely useless

[weary sand]

even if they DO successfully blink the ball goes towards the hoop in 2s which is advantageous for the shooting team

and in 3s, it goes backwards so what do you think you have to do? WALK backwards or get ur teammate to preemptively stand behind u

[slow elm]

Okay so thank you for agreeing when I said perfection is not op then switched topics

[real bear]

i never argued that its op in 2s

[weary sand]

i mean ur right

[slow elm]

Thats what I was doing

[weary sand]

its not like the styles completely useless

[slow elm]

Then I switched topics

[weary sand]

its just not what ppl who arent good think it is

they think its the holy grail of bbz styles

[real bear]

then u probably shouldnt of lol

[real bear]

i mean its still really good in anytinhg other than 2s

[weary sand]

on release when it didnt have a global cooldown that was WAY more problematic

[slow elm]

Yea lol but you gotta admit I lowkey was right about it not being op idk why people kept saying it was

[real bear]

yeah ofc in 2s its not

[slow elm]

Thats what my point was then I changed it when people wanted to say hey its the most op thing ever

[dusky goblet]

But then you just preemptively place a teammate in front of the mark near the hoop to catch it. Then you have at least a 50/50 chance of keeping priority. Or in another case you just use blink in other situation, blink isnt just used to block shots, if you find that useless then there are plenty other uses for it. One i already stated being the first few times people dont expect it to block a dunk. So it works once or twice. And then im sure you know that perfect dribble is already great for 2s. In 9/10 situations thats a free 2 point and more often than not is a free 3 pointer.

[real bear]

i mean i never argued against that so

[weary sand]

the most annoying thing ive seen perfection do is block the buzzer beater animation when ur at a reasonable distance but they need to remove forcing that animation

lost games where i couldve won if i wasnt forced to shoot

[slow elm]

Not going after you, well sorta since it was like hey no one is getting my point

But I was trying to make a point with the whole 2s thing

[real bear]

if i asked u to show me where u specifically said its not op in 2s, would u be able to?

[slow elm]

Yea I got u

Gimme a second

[pseudo inlet]

honestly just nerf the blink move on how far u can use the ability

[dusky goblet]

Its got a horrific range.

[pseudo inlet]

the problem is

chrollo isnt gonna nerf this one

its destined to be perfect

so yeah it is what it is

[dusky goblet]

It aint allat brah

Its a decent style but it aint that good dawg.

[pseudo inlet]

nah just a boring and unskilled style tbh

[dusky goblet]

They just need to nerf evolution and thats it.

Its already gotten a global cooldown for blink.

[weary sand]

insanely boring and B-low A tier style

[pseudo inlet]

once you get the hang of perfecion users u can easily counter them

[weary sand]

fr

[pure raven]

Ban cell in ranked bro I got giant and I cannot win against them

Those blinks r too powerful

[weary sand]

dunk

[pseudo inlet]

I prefer you use star bro

[autumn crescent]

Speed dribbler + evolution

[weary sand]

Why does 70% of bbz’s playerbase unironically forget that you can go to the hoop and press space against perfection

[autumn crescent]

Free 15 points

[dusky goblet]

Its very fun. Thats just subjective, i love using perfection. Not to say i dont like giant or flash more but its fun as hell.

[real bear]

just get posterizer

[weary sand]

You dont HAVE to shoot

[pure raven]

Mf why does the giant block not work against him

[slow elm]

This sorta ill find one more

[autumn crescent]

Blink can block dunks

[weary sand]

it does

[real bear]

if a team in 2s has someone wtih giant and posterizer then the other team may aswell just leave

[pure raven]

Ik but the range

[pseudo inlet]

unskilled fr, worst than ace lol

[weary sand]

if you use it beforehand and then jump manually yeah

[pure raven]

His dribble speed and range

He can teleport to the ball midair bro

[weary sand]

i thought ace was as boring as a style could get till perfection got added

lmfao

[slow elm]

@real bear I'll find where I said it specifically

[real bear]

who argued against that

[dusky goblet]

Ace is not that good dawg.

[autumn crescent]

Speed dribbler + evolution is legit free

[slow elm]

Me

[weary sand]

snatch blokc

[pure raven]

He ruining rank

[slow elm]

Or well

[dusky goblet]

Yeah its horrible.

[real bear]

i see no one denying what u said

[autumn crescent]

You cant.

They dribble out your range instantly

[pseudo inlet]

thats why i said worst than ace, meaning that they are terrible

[pure raven]

Cell players cannot score without their ability’s bro it’s non skill😭

[weary sand]

its crazy how bbz community will cry about blink but theyre fine with snatch block

[slow elm]

Here we go

[autumn crescent]

In 2v2s it's free eats

[pure raven]

He can use blink for offence and defence??

[real bear]

what

[autumn crescent]

Lowk blink not even that crazy

[weary sand]

what

[autumn crescent]

It's the dribble

[weary sand]

u mean perfect step

[slow elm]

I did a double take he responded to my double take

[autumn crescent]

That shi goes somewhere random and it's a free three

[pure raven]

It’s broken

[weary sand]

perfect dribble is good blink is whatever

[dusky goblet]

No? Thats just most people. People with skill and game sense dont need blink and perfect dribble to be good. It hust helps to have cool abilities. Are you expecting everyone to use chuck or something?

[autumn crescent]

Make it so before they teleport the ares they're gonna go I'd highlighted

[real bear]

yeah ik i said i dont see him saying its op in 2s

[pseudo inlet]

i mean blitz can easily block a shot from so far away so

[pure raven]

That’s not most people it’s everyone bro

[autumn crescent]

So they don't just teleport somewhere and shoot for fucing free

[slow elm]

I'll try to find it for ya

[weary sand]

perfect dribble is a free 3 but i never cared cause half the time theyre already losing

[dusky goblet]

Now youre just being a victim.

[real bear]

and even if he did i never did so the argument was pointless then

[pure raven]

You can have skill in this game n lose to cell just cause of base ability’s

[slow elm]

Thats what I was tryna get at

[weary sand]

lol no

[slow elm]

😭

[pseudo inlet]

if yall wanna counter Perfection, just use jackpot or star 👌

[dusky goblet]

Literally no.

[weary sand]

if u are good u wont be seeing that much trouble playing against perfection

[autumn crescent]

Yall complaining about cell but jackpot is way worse

[real bear]

bro then why did u never mention what u were specifically arguing about

i cant read ur mind

[weary sand]

jackpot and giant are S and SS

cell is B

[autumn crescent]

Jackpot is objectively almost the best

[dusky goblet]

You are reaching for the stars saying cell is B.

[autumn crescent]

It counters giant

[weary sand]

sorry B+

[autumn crescent]

And jackpot steal is stupid

Ts can grab the ball mid jumpshot

[dusky goblet]

Jackpots great, i wouldnt say its a gamechanging counter to giant but sure.

[dusky goblet]

Thats better.

[weary sand]

mid jumpshot, mid pass and mid pumpfake

lmfao

[pseudo inlet]

it has a chance of not happening bro

[autumn crescent]

Jackpot steal goes past post form

[autumn crescent]

That doesn't make it better lmao

[real bear]

jackpot can steal it from a giant doing the postup thing?

[pseudo inlet]

it's a gambler style bro 💔

[weary sand]

yeah

[autumn crescent]

Yup go try it

[real bear]

oh wtf

[weary sand]

post form is a free ball for jackpot

[autumn crescent]

That doesn't justify it

[weary sand]

if you even think of pumpfaking against jackpot you cant do anything cause itll 100% steal from there

[autumn crescent]

Keep in mind that if you pf you are fried regardless because they can use the steal

[weary sand]

if u pumpfake then try to pass out or try to shoot jackpot steals it mid pass and mid shot anim

[drifting perch]

How y’all losing with perfection in 2v2 skill issue ten times more of a problem in 2v2 ranked them 3v3

[autumn crescent]

Tryna justify it by saying it's a gambler style is like saying cell is fine because it's limited

It's dumb

[pseudo inlet]

just use star guys it's def s tier

counters perfection

[weary sand]

?

[autumn crescent]

Nah perfection jus annoying

[slow elm]

My bad I thought you were arguing against me because you knew what I was arguing for

[autumn crescent]

True pain is giant and jackpot with posterizer

The most free of eats

[drifting perch]

Honeslty mega nerf anyone who uses perfection blink to defend

[weary sand]

this what i run in 2s and we just got to diamond

jackpot and giant is untouchable

[autumn crescent]

Yea nah they gotta nerf those two before anything

[drifting perch]

Rather deal with them then perfection cause at least with gaint cooldown is insain for defense and jackpot takes some skill to learn like gaint

[autumn crescent]

???

Gang what are you saying

[drifting perch]

No not gaint it has over 1 minute cooldowns for all the moves

[weary sand]

u havent played enough if ud rather deal with perfection

[autumn crescent]

Fr

[real bear]

if they start with the ball theres deadass nothing that can be done about it 😭

[weary sand]

against jackpot and giant what can perfection do LMFAOOO

[real bear]

instant 20-0

[autumn crescent]

EXACTLY

You're just fried

[weary sand]

perfect step? snatch block
pumpfake? jackpot steal

and then once they get the ball its over

[autumn crescent]

Especially if they get poster zone?

Yea sign off

[slow elm]

Dw u chilling dw

[weary sand]

perfectionist zone is pretty good in 2s tho

[slow elm]

Yea

[weary sand]

but i still prefer speed dribble

[autumn crescent]

Lowk jus change some styles and zones for 2v2s

[drifting perch]

Honeslty just nerf gaint zone to make it so it’s a lot harder to block dunk but not made impossibly

[autumn crescent]

Make post dunk blockable

Jackpot steal not stupid

[weary sand]

before 2s i didnt even know you could block alley oop

[autumn crescent]

Idk make the posterizor require a qte to not get blocked or sum

[autumn crescent]

Fr

[drifting perch]

Honeslty flash needs to be banned from rank entirely

[autumn crescent]

Nah flash not that bad

[drifting perch]

ace is the only balanced mythic style for ranked 2v2

[slow elm]

Thats what im saying

[weary sand]

i just randomly started trying it on a whim ever since playmaker became a often played style

[real bear]

ive used flash up until d1 and it still cant do anything against giant

[autumn crescent]

Hopefully they fix the rank meta next update

[weary sand]

^

[slow elm]

Lowkey I only use ace for 2v2s instead of perfection

[drifting perch]

Cause like once you shut them down and score once it’s kinda over for ace users unless their like me when their Defense is insain

[weary sand]

flash aint touching giant or perfection brah

[autumn crescent]

Jackpot and giant destroy teams

[pure raven]

We getting that cell nerf one way or another dw

[slow elm]

Thats me bro

[drifting perch]

Ace can 1v2 people and enitre teams full of perfection and mythic users if used correctly

[autumn crescent]

We don't need a cell nerf gang we needa nerf jackpot and giant in 2v2

[weary sand]

I hope chrollo never figures out about speed dribble

[slow elm]

Thats what I've been doing bro

[real bear]

yo ur capping 😭

[slow elm]

Hes not

[weary sand]

he just started saying stuff for no reason

LMFAO

[drifting perch]

We need a cell a jackpot and a gaint nerf

[real bear]

whats ace bouta do against someone with a braincell

[real bear]

fr

[slow elm]

I played a giant and perfection while using ace it was a free win

My teammate bailed on me

Had to lock in

[weary sand]

theres no way chrollo doesnt know about the current state of speed dribble lmfao

[drifting perch]

True cause you just use gaint zone ace use dribbleable

[autumn crescent]

No disrespect but ace kinda mid

[weary sand]

its definitely unbalanced but i dont know if he cares

[slow elm]

I didn't have those

[drifting perch]

Exactly needs a rework

[slow elm]

I had uhh unbreakable

[drifting perch]

I use perfection zone with ace

[autumn crescent]

Athletic fade is lowk free blocks like 70% of the time

[pseudo inlet]

ace is easily an easy counter

[strong heart]

they silently nerfed it

[slow elm]

This guy onto something

[drifting perch]

Honeslty ace rework when

He is the Shidou is kuruko no basket

[weary sand]

^

ace fade you can genuinely guess where ur gonna block it at

[slow elm]

Lowkey bro hot topic but I prefer ace over perfection any day

[drifting perch]

Sadly they did not make shidou as cool as Aoime Daiki

[weary sand]

it becomes a little more annoying when its done sideways but still

most of the time free blocks

[drifting perch]

Same

[autumn crescent]

Exactly

[pseudo inlet]

not until you encounter a player whos good the chances drops

[slow elm]

I only use ace for 2v2s

[drifting perch]

I spin my camera in such a way where the ball rebounds back to me and I shoot a three unguarded

[autumn crescent]

Nah it don't matter they have patterns

If you go sideways imma know to expect it

Don't change much I just back up and block

[pseudo inlet]

easily a counter

[weary sand]

the most obvious patterns of bbz have to be that and people using perfectionist and stepback fade

[drifting perch]

Ace needs a formles mode for like 15 second with a long cooldown instead of a shot move

[autumn crescent]

Why does stepbsck give you so much range??

[weary sand]

whenever people use perfectionist i already know theyre gonna go for that stepback fade

[autumn crescent]

It's Hella punishing to fall for even slightly yo

[weary sand]

sometimes its actually nothing u can do

[autumn crescent]

Like they stepback and they are out your range entirely

Keep in mind dribbles are fast ash and if you don't see it coming you're cooked because of ping

[weary sand]

also they need to fix the 2s glitch where u can check up to ur teammate

its still there it seems like

[autumn crescent]

I used snatch block once and the ball just slipped out my hand ig

They gotta fix 2v2s

Perfectionist stepback is free unless you know it's coming in the future too

And ppl talking about nerf cell😭

Shi like this why I don't wanna play 2s because I know after gold everyone gonna be running lame unfun meta builds and whoever has ball first slams

[slow elm]

Unfortunately

[grand mist]

2vs2s is just posterizer + giant/perfection/jackpot/copycat

[slow elm]

What does posterizer do again

[autumn crescent]

Makes dunks unblockablr

Unblockable

[slow elm]

I think I have it on my other account but can't remember

[slow elm]

Oh thats demon but like

[autumn crescent]

And it makes you faster in the 2 point range

[slow elm]

You still gotta make a 3 before you can dunk

Or some like that

[autumn crescent]

You dont

You can start the game off with a dunk

[slow elm]

Did they change it?

[autumn crescent]

It's dumb

[slow elm]

Yea I think it should be 3pt first then dunking should be whatever

[slow elm]

Oh snap perfection gonna go crazy then

I think I also got perfection with 777

Or is that copycat

I can't remember

Its one or the other

[toxic current]

copy that copycat

[slow elm]

Ima go check to see what account its on

[autumn crescent]

I wanna know what everyone in champion rank used to get to that rank ngl

[slow elm]

I got too many alts

[autumn crescent]

I can bet it's some variation of posterizer and a mythic

[slow elm]

Not perfection I can say that much sob

[grand mist]

Probably posterizer with giant duo

[slow elm]

So I was right I do got a perfection and posterizer setup

And then a Ace and Unbreakable setup

And then a Perfection and 777 Setup I think

@autumn crescent should I roll off unbreakable?

For my ace setup?

Or should I keep it

Debating it rn

[autumn crescent]

Spin

[forest python]

why are people still crying about perfection lmao

must be a copycat user

[vivid verge]

because of blink

and perfect step, mainly just his base

[autumn crescent]

Jackpot and Giant way worse

[forest python]

why are people still crying about blink

[vivid verge]

uh it can counter playmakers ult plus somehow it can block perfect arc (the whole reason its called that is because its a PERFECT ARC which means it should be invinicble to all airborne stealing moves, which it is except blink) and on top of it, its range is a lil bit out of control

[autumn crescent]

Perfect arc is snatch-blockable

[forest python]

the range is fine

there's plenty of counterplay

which skill level are we talking about

[vivid verge]

there is little to no counterplay against blink other than having your teammate behind you, it still interrupts momentum and stops a three point from relatively far away

[forest python]

i dont think that the counterplay is so trivial that you could just dismiss it like that
and interrupting momentum really isnt as detrimental as you make it out to

case closed

blink is balanced

[uneven hound]

blink is not balanced

although its more tolerable now

having a move that does the entirety of defense for you as a whole is not balanced

especially when it denies good plays with no difficulty whatsoever

btw it can still intercept passes even though they said it doesnt anymore

although i dont see that being an issue since itd be a waste due to its global cd

[vivid verge]

while the ball is airborne?

[autumn crescent]

When it releases you can yea

[worthy willow]

u kinda sound like someone who doesn’t have perfection

[uneven hound]

you sound like you have an extra chromosome

[worthy willow]

seems like you’re just hating to hate! wanna talk about it?

i’m a therapist in my free time

[uneven hound]

yeah sounds about right

[worthy willow]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1298142199896084553/1339959560848412734/attachment-24.gif

[forest python]

where did that come from 💀

[uneven hound]

malice

[forest python]

lmao

do u agree with ts https://discord.com/channels/1326149032384532530/1371485268623753277

[uneven hound]

yeah i read it and its cool

no idea why that isnt a feature in the first place tbh

[forest python]

yeah

i dont think the gameplay devs actually read suggestions

so this may all be in vain

hows blink unbalanced tho

[uneven hound]

well it isnt as bad as it was

its more tolerable now but

its still very easily capable of shutting down plays that took some effort

which i think denying plays are fine but it shouldnt be as easy as pressing one button

[forest python]

perchance

i have copycat above perfection

[uneven hound]

after going against perfections for a while

that isnt too unreasonable

[forest python]

the end times would come if cc could copy perfections

[uneven hound]

to be fair perfection got gutted

they shadownerfed his dribble

[forest python]

ayo what

when

[uneven hound]

yeah

distance is

[forest python]

i dont play on my main so i didnt notice

[uneven hound]

slightly shorter

normally youd go from halfcourt to a bit past the 3 point line

but now you go from halfcourt to way before the 3 point line

[forest python]

omd

should i roll it off lmao

[uneven hound]

honestly

i dont know thats up to you

[forest python]

guess i'll wait for the slim chance that chrollo gives free extra slots

also mods should lock this

pweaasse mods please

[uneven hound]

are they starting to lock these suggestions now lol

[forest python]

yes

thank god

[uneven hound]

ngk

ngl they were statting to get redundant

[forest python]

yeah

suggestions is low quality stuff

[uneven hound]

at first i agreed but

after like

the 900th nerf perfection suggestion i just gave up

[forest python]

i dont think ive met a coherent person here lmao

[forest python]

there's no megasuggestion that summarizes the points brought up

[uneven hound]

"delete perfection or rework it!!!" proceeds to only talk about blink

[forest python]

but maybe im thinking too much about this lego game

[forest python]

it's obvious that they're low ELO 😭

is blink even good in pro servers

[uneven hound]

mainly for shutting down plays but thats it

if you blink in higher level youre basically kinda giving the ball to the other team

granted its annoying to have a play be shut down by one button but its tolerable now

not to mention the amount of giant posterizers indirectly making perfection obsolete

[forest python]

when did this become the meta lmao

or is this just a 2v2 thing

[uneven hound]

mainly a 2v2

due to the make it take it

since they can just activate posterizer and guarantee like

[forest python]

i think it's a grindset thing. if you consider getting blinked a part of the play, then you wouldn't be as mad.

[uneven hound]

10 points at least

[forest python]

2v2 mode was created for a certain breed of players lmao

[uneven hound]

i dont

even wanna touch ranked atm

[forest python]

nothing's more fun than dropping 40 points in a trash server

idk how i feel about high level play in this game

[uneven hound]

ngl the requirements are too lenient for ranked

[untold coyote]

sup ryuji

did u see my @

[uneven hound]

i dont remember

[marsh cedar]

u gotta me 4m close to blink

And to tp to plauer 5m

[long robin]

bump

[full scaffold]

He's the one that's glazing cell, you can steal the dribble move with jackpot, the dribble move got nerfed to the ground, in 2v2 blink scored for the other team, you can get the ball again after someone blinks you by running backwards, you can block perfect shot bc it has similar timing to perfect arc

Also, global cooldown on blink

[iron gust]

ill watch on your tries to steal ball with jackpot. think twice before answering next time. or show me a clip where jackpot stole ball from perfection after dribble + tp on another side of 3 points line at least.

you need to be 6-8 meters away for use steal and 1 second for full land it, so you auto lose this take. everyone know that perfection too op and if you smart enough, you can see that only his mains defense him.

this conversation become more funny, when you realize that i used him a lot AND after that i hate this style. get better perfection users, get better

[iron gust]

no? if your team smart enough they can take the ball or if you use perfectionist you can take it by yourself

[iron gust]

op style, but fr boring. like even ace more fun

[iron gust]

rerolled him 5 times kido

[crisp sand]

who are you talking to?

[forest python]

what does this even mean 😭

[iron gust]

wth

[forest python]

it’s clear who he’s replying to

[forest python]

ace is really fun if you get the ball a lot

[crisp sand]

I was asking cause ain’t no one in this forum beside him

[forest python]

did perfection users do something to you 😭

[iron gust]

what

bro, there is 10 ppl in online

[forest python]

🤨

[crisp sand]

and I only saw you typing that’s why I asked

it ain’t that hard to understand

[iron gust]

they defense op style

[iron gust]

maybe they are afk? why i should replay when all ppl chating?

[crisp sand]

omg

dawg

I asked a simple question

please stop tagging me

[forest python]

blink isn’t even the best defense move

[forest python]

🤨

why’s bro acting like that

[iron gust]

bro so dumb💀

js leave from chat

[tardy notch]

Blink ain't that good anymore

[crisp sand]

I’m dumb but you’re in here complaining about a style

gotcha

[iron gust]

only kagami can be better. because this stupid tech with jump

[tardy notch]

What tech

[iron gust]

bruh, this kind of suggestions so popular broski

[forest python]

shii you have a point

[iron gust]

you can steal a ball when it already in basket

[crisp sand]

it’s been over a week my man

when emperor is added you gonna complain to

?

that’s just how theses game work it caters to kids

[lilac venture]

perfection isnt that bad anymore they nerfed the range decently

[forest python]

real

[crisp sand]

so there gonna be op styles I hate perfection to

[forest python]

i wonder why the backlash for copycat wasn’t as bad

[crisp sand]

And I literally have him

[forest python]

that style is more cancerous

[lilac venture]

the only op thing about perfection is its awakening in 2s

theres a global cd on blink so multiple users cant just spam it

[tardy notch]

Bc copycat will always be good

People knows that

[iron gust]

are you main perfection because you skill issue, or you skill issue because use op style?

[tardy notch]

As long as it can copy styles, it's going to be one of the best

[iron gust]

yep

[lilac venture]

nothing op about copycat

its still a randomized chance to get a skill you cant decide it

[iron gust]

but not when all 9 ppl in game are copycats and perfections

[crisp sand]

here we go just cause I have something to say about perfection doesn’t mean I main him it’s cause I have the brain to adapt and counter and not baby about it all day

[forest python]

every time i speak with you i wonder what went wrong with your reading comprehension

[tardy notch]

But if you got flash, you all set

[iron gust]

flash is goat style

[tardy notch]

Ok

[forest python]

ok

[forest python]

flash mains don’t shower

[tardy notch]

I'm autistic and a brain aneurysm eruption survivor

[crisp sand]

imagine copycat can’t even copy akashi then we will be cooked

[tardy notch]

3rd best obtainable style and easy to get

[forest python]

and i’m dad

[lilac venture]

since its a mythic it will be able to

[tardy notch]

Ok?

[forest python]

ok

[tardy notch]

I just answer your question

Wait

[crisp sand]

yes ik but seeing as what they did with cell who o knows

[tardy notch]

If you're a dad

[forest python]

who’s we? cc mains?

[tardy notch]

Why are you yapping

[forest python]

let the cc mains suffer

[iron gust]

i literally won almost every game against perfection, but my team perfections always have 0 iq and send blocked ball to enemy. also, smart perfection can easily score 3 points and no one could block him

[tardy notch]

Why

[forest python]

that’s just how it is

[crisp sand]

ion main anything to be honest I just switch my styles up

[tardy notch]

Answer my other question now

[lilac venture]

Prob only doing it with limiteds

[forest python]

😭 i feel bad atp

[tardy notch]

Wdym?

[crisp sand]

do you realize that most perfections are kids with only one slot right ?

[tardy notch]

Bro?

[forest python]

nothing bud

[forest python]

how do smart perfections score easy 3 pointers

[tardy notch]

Perfection users should stay in pubs

Ranked

It's not even that good

[iron gust]

do you realize that its annoying, when your enemy 24/7 block your scores and your team always send already blocked ball to enemy?

[forest python]

enlighten us, oh kocmoc ya prashol nation person

[crisp sand]

my guy I understand the frustration I don’t disagree with you I’m just saying I’m not a perfection main just cause I have something to say about cell

[iron gust]

3 dribble - perfect dribble to side - tp to side for easy 3 points

[tardy notch]

With perfect shot?

Bc perfect shot can be blocked

Like almost every shooting skill can

[lilac venture]

Realistically perfect shot only gets blocked if they use it dumb

In the middle of two people

[forest python]

😭

[iron gust]

SERIOSLY???? OMG BRO U O SMART NGL FIRE WRITING BEST TAKE EVER

[tardy notch]

No need for sarcasm

[forest python]

he gets me

[tardy notch]

I was just asking a question

[iron gust]

10/10 ragebait bro. you can change side to teleport after perfect dribble

[crisp sand]

perfect shot works like 50% of the time

[tardy notch]

Pipe down

[forest python]

can you side teleport

[iron gust]

ofc

[tardy notch]

Tbfh, I hadn't used Perfection since nerf

[forest python]

ok, nice one

do you know any other way to abuse perfection

[crisp sand]

and when emperor is added I’m sure you’ll see a lot less perfection

[forest python]

i will surely use this knowledge to help balance the game

[forest python]

emperor is mythic right

[crisp sand]

yes he is

[forest python]

i c

i hope they boost the release spin chance lmao

like they did with jp, cc, and perfection

[crisp sand]

well now you can just tap on who you want for more luck but yea hopefully they do

[iron gust]

u can fake with 3 points shot. i literally saw how ppl use perfect dribble on 3 points line and after that teleport from half of court to basket for dunk. you cant predict it

[forest python]

do you know how miniscule the change is

5% becomes 5.5%

i hope no one lied to you and said that it became 15% lmao

[iron gust]

i hope its akashi, not another OC

[crisp sand]

I haven’t even used the feature yet myself to be real

haven’t needed to

[worthy willow]

pretty positive it will be

goatkashi

[uneven hound]

im gonna hold your hand when i say this

[long robin]

🥶 🥶 😭

[iron gust]

😭

[waxen otter]

it just makes the game so unfair and unfun they need to just take it out the game

[untold coyote]

Its too late for that

It can be annoying

But its not like its so op

You guys want a full delete on it

It just makes no sense

[waxen otter]

it just makes the game unfun really

[normal crystal]

im getting cooked by perfections in 2v2

[waxen otter]

not even just there a team of perfections means you have to make like 2-3 shots just to get one three

[trim pelican]

I would personally say that Perfection is relatively strong compared to other styles, but not broken.
I just played some ranked matches as P1,

and I can confidently say that with decent positioning and a somewhat capable teammate, it's not that bad.

Also, Giant is way more worth debating.

If any of you Perfection players have some time to spare, I'd love to see and test a few things for myself in ps.

[stuck sapphire]

Im -198438

Also tell me why I shot from the other longitudinal side of the court WITH A FADEAWAY TOO and blink STILL BLOCKED ME

ALSO TELL ME WHY BLINK CAN EASILY BLOCK ACE WITHOUT EVEN TRYING

[waxen otter]

It just needs to be removed ngl

Just ruining the fun of the game as it stands

[cold mulch]

Perfection is honestly easy to counter when you play against him enough

He's not all that good of a character

When he does his drive thingy all u gotta do is keep running forward when he does that perfect step shot. Boom, easy block

And as for his defensive ability, literally just stay on the half side of the court and you can grab it as soon as hel uses it

[cold mulch]

This can also be said for the layup

His moves are lockable u just gotta be smart

[stuck sapphire]

ACE'S MOVE SHOULD NOT BE BLOCKABLE WITHOUT THOUGHT OR BRAINCELLS WDYM

[normal crystal]

yo perfection can do 3 points with perfect dribble

[cold mulch]

Giant can do it, lock can do it, who cares?

[normal crystal]

they can go backwards

[cold mulch]

And you can still block it

[cold mulch]

Star can also do it, your point is?

Just bait them into using the ability

[stuck sapphire]

BUUT WITH PERFECTION IT TELEPORTS U SO U DONT EVEN HAVE TO KNOW WHERE ITS GOING

[uneven hound]

the only issue really is blink being able to shut down good plays with zero effort and all in one button

[cold mulch]

It ALWAYS and I mean ALWAYS goes to the half court section

Literally

Its easy to counter

[stuck sapphire]

STARS MOVE DOESNT ALLOW U TO NO LOOK BLOCK IT

[uneven hound]

blink basically has the entirety of defense in one button

which isnt

good

[cold mulch]

When I play 3's or 5v5 and I see perfection i just stay back in half court to get his block

[uneven hound]

its more tolerable now at least

that isnt really the issue

[cold mulch]

You can technically, but it would be luck

[uneven hound]

as i said it shuts down plays with zero effort

[normal crystal]

when they use blink why does the ball go to the hoop in 2v2s

[cold mulch]

Idk they gotta fix it

But like I said, perfection isnt THAT good

Copycat is still the best style in the game easily

[waxen otter]

Like it genuinely isn’t like a skill thing it’s just oh he pressed one button from half court now I gotta restart my offense

[normal crystal]

what abt giant

[cold mulch]

Perfection is a crutch character, alot of the people who use Perfection can't actually play the game so when they use their abilities they're useless as hell

[cold mulch]

Runner up imo, i love giant

[uneven hound]

giant and star are my mains

goated styles

[waxen otter]

Same giant is is fun I wish I could still pass off of post form

[cold mulch]

But copycat is better for the simple fact that he can copy giant, and that drive move is non debatable the best drive move in the game

[cold mulch]

Facts, its kinda garbage they took it away

[uneven hound]

wait what

they took that off?

[normal crystal]

fr

[uneven hound]

aw hell nah

[waxen otter]

Yeah

[uneven hound]

aw hell nah thats stupid

[waxen otter]

Fr

Playmaking is not allowed ig

[upper stump]

is ace cheeks?

[uneven hound]

verg

very

worst mythic and its worse than some legendaries

[cold mulch]

Yes. Ace is 100% a crutch character. And ngl his fadeaway shot is an easy block once u get used to it

[cold mulch]

Okay worse than some legendaries is a huge stretch

[uneven hound]

its worse than sniper

and maybe lock

[cold mulch]

HELL no

[stuck sapphire]

EXACTLY LUCKK DINGUS

[cold mulch]

Sniper is 100% the worst style in the game rn

[uneven hound]

thatd be chuck

[cold mulch]

Just because theres no versatility in it

[stuck sapphire]

No chuck is

[cold mulch]

Nah even chuck is more versatile

Even with the 50% think

Thing

[uneven hound]

the 50% almost cancels out its versatility

[cold mulch]

Lock can't be compared to ace because they're two completely different types of styles

[stuck sapphire]

I DONT WANT A P2L STYLE BRO

[uneven hound]

awakening is borderline useless

[upper stump]

lock is bad?? i thought its a good style

[uneven hound]

lock is

eh

[stuck sapphire]

chuck is pay to lose

[untold coyote]

Its trash

[uneven hound]

intercept can be stolen away

hands up

[cold mulch]

Lock is good, his hands up could be ALOT better

[uneven hound]

just do a fade

[untold coyote]

What does hands up even do bro

[uneven hound]

the only real threat with lock

[cold mulch]

And they need to buff intercept cause being able to steal it is CRAZY

[uneven hound]

is the awakening

other than that

lock is a nuisance at best

[untold coyote]

Lock is buns

[cold mulch]

But ace is def not worse than the legendaries we have on the roster

You just have to NOT be brain dead with him

[untold coyote]

Ace can be good

Flash better

[uneven hound]

flash and star better tbh

[untold coyote]

Atheltic fade is just so buns

[upper stump]

idk maybe its js my opponents but ace seems fun to use

[uneven hound]

ace is just

[untold coyote]

Especially if ur getting double teamed

[uneven hound]

boring

[untold coyote]

And the awk is lowk buns as well

[stuck sapphire]

Copycat better bc u can just copy it

[untold coyote]

Fun for 5 minutes

[cold mulch]

Nah not in 2v2

[uneven hound]

id argue awk is worse than base

you lose 3pt capability for a 2pt cutscene

[untold coyote]

I mean duh

[uneven hound]

lowkey sad asl ngl

[cold mulch]

Id say star is on par with ace. Cause that dash move is always a huge gamble

[untold coyote]

But thats only 4 points

[uneven hound]

star is much more versatile than ace

[untold coyote]

Other awks have better options for more potential points in 2v2

[cold mulch]

But ace is a boring character just because of how easy he actually is ngl

[uneven hound]

dash isnt a gamble if you use it right

[cold mulch]

Which is lore accurate kinda lmao

[uneven hound]

and if youre using it as a steal idk what to tell you 😭

[untold coyote]

Broo how is ace easy

Its like so booty

[upper stump]

wonder what the star rework's gna be like

[untold coyote]

Athletic drive is a hard carry to ace

[stuck sapphire]

Can we plz get back on topic (which is tellig how op perfection is)

Its in name

[cold mulch]

If you do 2 dribbles and athletic drive you get a full recharge on your dribble, its free as hell

[untold coyote]

Everyone already knows perfection is not op

[uneven hound]

honestly im scared

fheyre gonna

[upper stump]

ruin it

[cold mulch]

Perfection isn't op

[upper stump]

?

[cold mulch]

At all

[stuck sapphire]

Be Quiet low nut

[uneven hound]

yeah

like i feel like

[untold coyote]

Yea but at that point u dont even need the extra dribbles since ur down court already

[untold coyote]

White role calling me a low nut😭

[uneven hound]

theres a chance stars identity and playstyle are gonna get shredded to bits with the rework

[cold mulch]

Which is why he's an easy character

[stuck sapphire]

BLINK CAN BE USED FROM HALF COURT AND STILL BLOCK SOMETHING

[normal crystal]

i wasted 500k getting copycat and ended up with flash was it worth it

[cold mulch]

Athletic fade is still a good move if u use it smart enough

[untold coyote]

Thats only 3 points

[uneven hound]

blink is the only issue with perfection

[untold coyote]

What u gonna do after that

[stuck sapphire]

WHY ARE U SAYING PERFECTION TRASH

[uneven hound]

thats it

[untold coyote]

U have no moves

[cold mulch]

Brother play the game normally?

[pale crane]

ngl

[stuck sapphire]

true tho

[untold coyote]

When did i say it was trash?

[upper stump]

idt he said it was trash

[uneven hound]

perfection is tolerably strong

[pale crane]

perfection doesn’t even feel perfect no more

[cold mulch]

And athletic fade is still useful if u can use it right

[uneven hound]

but it isnt an issue

[stuck sapphire]

BE QUIET

[pale crane]

the nerf boofed it so bad

[uneven hound]

only blink is an issue

[untold coyote]

Were talking about how ace is not good

[stuck sapphire]

TRUE BROTHER IT IS

[pale crane]

blink range is wack

[untold coyote]

So after athletic drive u just play the game normally?

Ur at a disadvantage

[cold mulch]

Its not even that perfection is the issue imo. It's the fact that EVERYONE HAS IT

Thats the issue

[stuck sapphire]

LIKE YO PROFILE PIC

[pale crane]

perfect dribble is wack i don’t go nowhere with it

[untold coyote]

No

[pale crane]

ty

[upper stump]

as an ace user yea aft athletic drive thr aint nth else

[uneven hound]

perfection is still decently strong

[stuck sapphire]

LIKE YO HAIRLINE

[cold mulch]

Just like every other character in the game, who also has skills. Thats how the game works lol what

[pale crane]

and you telling me lock can block bullet pass and not perfection??

[pale crane]

ty

[untold coyote]

Thats what im telling him bro said ace is basically too easy

[tall monolith]

why y’all mad about a limited style ofc it’ll be good

if it was limited just to be trash it’d be even a scam or a fail to roll em

[stuck sapphire]

THOSE ARE INSULTS

[cold mulch]

This is my only problem with perfection. The blink isn't the issue, its the fact that so many people are using it because EVERYONE has perfection

[pale crane]

ty

[untold coyote]

Wait are you saying its easy to use or easy to score points / win games

[upper stump]

bro ace is not 'easy' 💔

[stuck sapphire]

ty

[pale crane]

ty

[tall monolith]

ace is the first mythical, he’s so predictable nowadays.

[uneven hound]

no blink is definitely an issue but its tolerable
a move shouldnt do the entirety of defense for you in a split second

[west berry]

Yall complaining about something that is broken because the balancing issue

[untold coyote]

Its easy to use just buns at winning games

[stuck sapphire]

yw🥵

[cold mulch]

Yea but as the time goes on we'll see less perfection, so it won't be a problem

[untold coyote]

We can never win an argument against people who think perfection is too op to where they want it to be deleted they just dont take in what were saying

[uneven hound]

people who say that it needs to be deleted are just as bad as perfection mains

lol

[untold coyote]

I wonder if half of them even played against perfection when it was released

[pale crane]

atleast give it the ability to block bullet pass again or sum

global cd is enough

[uneven hound]

naw

[cold mulch]

being able to block bullet pass should never be a thing

[untold coyote]

Fr😭

[uneven hound]

yeah

[pale crane]

lock did it

man i got so mad

[west berry]

I did it was surprisingly fun for the first 5 minutes

[stuck sapphire]

I DONT WANT IT DELETED I JUST WANT IT NERFED

[cold mulch]

Somehow

[uneven hound]

and it shouldnt

[untold coyote]

No it did not

[cold mulch]

Ngl it happened to.me to

[uneven hound]

it already did and as of now its tolerable

[untold coyote]

How do u intercept or blink a pass that literally just teleports in ur tms hand

[stuck sapphire]

I DID IT WAS A HORRIBLE EXPERIENCE

[uneven hound]

also stop being aggressive no ones taking you seriously

[pale crane]

exactly

[stuck sapphire]

NOT BLINK

[pale crane]

but it happened

[untold coyote]

Have u seen the nerfs its got? It is way worse now

So stop complaining be grateful

[uneven hound]

its way worse but its still pretty good

[cold mulch]

It doesn't necessarily teleport, the ball just moves REALLY really fast if u pay close attention

[untold coyote]

Yea

[pale crane]

perfection isn’t so perfect now

[uneven hound]

just get better dawg

[stuck sapphire]

I have layed against him now hes still op

[uneven hound]

you suck

im sorry to tell you

[untold coyote]

I jusy accept they gettin the pass off gng

[uneven hound]

you are BUNS

[cold mulch]

Real

But moral of the story is

[pale crane]

its a above average style now

[untold coyote]

Wild card probably uses sniper

[stuck sapphire]

ur being hypocritical

[cold mulch]

Perfection is not op

[pale crane]

nowhere near its former glory

[cold mulch]

At all. Whatsoever

[stuck sapphire]

I USE COPYCAT btw

[cold mulch]

Its kinda buns

[uneven hound]

no wonder

[untold coyote]

At least u right at one thing

[cold mulch]

Especially since the people who use perfection are buns

[untold coyote]

Lol no wonder why cus kid cant copy perfection