2v2 Ranked rework

[real prairie]

So i think everybody know how 2v2 work
But since you only have half of the court ACE 😡 can cross all the court and then just dunk so to fix this issues we could do like in marvel rivals like you can banned 1 style that you dont want to have against or nerf ace dribble in ranked making it less op because this is very unbalanced and anoying losing because à braindead ace user cross the y'all court and dunk then just use its shoot its just anoying so pls devs y'all gotta do smt

[kind hill]

valid

[hybrid parrot]

Just a little tip against ace just follow it then block it it's possible if you know their pattern

[real prairie]

Ye

But if your not sure that he have it on or off cd its diffucult to predict it

Its still à good tip so ty

[hybrid parrot]

The 1st skill always shoot at their right side then the drive skill you can just wait for it to end don't steal just follow it then block it if they try to shoot or dunk

[real prairie]

Oh its only their right side?

I thiugh it was both

Because i always see people shoot at their left too

[real prairie]

Understood thanks for tip

😄

: D

[hybrid parrot]

Depends on where you're looking

[real prairie]

Ye

Mh

Your right

[rapid elk]

Jus remove the 2v2 mode already

It annoys everyone like it doesn't require skill it jus require op styles and zones

[wanton hull]

Dawg ace takes a lot more skill then perfection or double flash or gaint flash or double gaint

[real prairie]

No?

Ace just need to spam

That all

[wanton hull]

Your just dumb then bro ace is the worst mythic in the game and worse then every style besides all rares epics and star

Snipe got better offense powrr

Same with flash

[winged plinth]

star is better than ace

lol

[wanton hull]

Harder to use is what I mean too

[real prairie]

Y'all gotta chill tho

Is better than this style on 2v2

[wanton hull]

And you gotta get good all of ace skills are trash shot move is stupid easy to block dribble you can keep up with and it has a long cooldown

[real prairie]

Since we only have half of the court

[winged plinth]

ace is very predictable

unless they have posterizer

just block their dunks

[wanton hull]

Plus ace should be the most op style in ranked in my opinion for 2v2 since it’s a street ball style and this gamemode is base off of street ball

[real prairie]

Ye

[real prairie]

Is the most op style in 2v2

Flash is good in it too

[wanton hull]

No tf it is not the most op style cleary you never went againts a decent perfection user or double flash or flash gaint or double gaint or double lock

[winged plinth]

ace is not the most op style in 2v2

itd be giant with posterizer

[wanton hull]

It’s perfection or any combo with gaint or flash

[real prairie]

I alr destroyed a double flash with my friend

[wanton hull]

They were not good at all then

[real prairie]

Their not that easy but still won

[wanton hull]

You do realize perfection terroizes every rank if you don’t got perfection in ranked your sorta screwed

[real prairie]

But for now y'all are mad for some reason because im giving my opinion

[wanton hull]

Becuase it’s a trash problem and ace is trash in both the base game and ranked game

[real prairie]

Sorry if y'all dont think ace is op

Ye ye

Hum btw its because

But idc if ur not okay

[wanton hull]

Your wanting to nerf ace the style that is all ready balanced compared to every other style in the game

[real prairie]

I said in the 2v2

Same for perfection

He should be nerf in here

[winged plinth]

ace is objectively awful lol

afaik youre the only one that has a problem with ace at all in 2v2s

[wanton hull]

All I gotta do Is step slighty towards the direction they stepped first to block the shot move

[winged plinth]

and drive is

buns

well not really its an okay move

but if you cant block a very telegraphed dunk im sorry dawg

[wanton hull]

Tbh ace should be the most op style in the game due to how aoime Daiki is a formless shooter meaning he should have a passive in the game where when you jump to shoot you can move mid air to change shot courses

[real prairie]

Fr

[winged plinth]

no

this game isnt knb anymore

lol

[real prairie]

Ye

[wanton hull]

Which is sad

[real prairie]

Since hakari and cell

[wanton hull]

All the kuruko no basket fans were hyped for this game cause the one we had before was so buns

[winged plinth]

giant jackpot chuck lock perfection are all original

[real prairie]

What y'all style btw

[winged plinth]

and copycat

surprisingly its not kise

[wanton hull]

Nope that is straight up Kise

It is kise

[winged plinth]

not at all

[wanton hull]

The awakening colors and all

[winged plinth]

its inspired at best

[wanton hull]

Tbh ace should have a formles mode instead of a formles shot move where in the mode your dribble style changes along with your speed and how you shoot and this mode would last for 15 seconds cooldown is 1 minute

[winged plinth]

rh

eh depends

[real prairie]

Then change is rarity

[winged plinth]

its a bit boring that way

[wanton hull]

Would still be mythic

[real prairie]

Welp

[wanton hull]

Not really allows you to tilt mid air to not be blocked as easy or you would have increased dribble speed and such

[winged plinth]

ace doesnt need multiple variations to be good at free styling

[real prairie]

He could get 3 move like the world class in the trash game blr became

[winged plinth]

flash has both moves

two moves only and free styles better than ace

[wanton hull]

Yeah true

[winged plinth]

it doesnt need multiple variants

[wanton hull]

Honeslty this game needs a new raity for the generation of miracles and put ace copycat sniper and gaint all in it and same with phantom and then Akashi too and rework all the styles to be truely like their anime selfs

[real prairie]

Ye

Why tf phantom in epic

[wanton hull]

Then I would want To add in the uncrowned kings too

[winged plinth]

giant isnt generation of miracles

its literally shaq lol

[wanton hull]

Closest thing we got to mursakibara

[real prairie]

But like after the tip the first guy gave me ace became a less hard to deal with in 2v2

More predictable

[subtle cedar]

i think they should increase every moves’ cooldowns in the game in 2v2

every move is kindof op beside some exceptions (phantom, chuck)

[wanton hull]

Don’t forget about clutch lock and ace too my man

[subtle cedar]

clutch got pressure defense and can feint with pump fake+jump shot, locks awk is just no skill and hands up just requires skill and ace is ace

ace has athletic fade and athletic drive AND 2 guaranteed 2 with awk

also clutch has a guaranteed 3

[winged plinth]

ace has

genuinely an awful kit

[wanton hull]

Ace is trash in base and is decent in awk

[winged plinth]

his awk is just as bad tbh

[wanton hull]

Tbh ace needs a formless mode passive where your able to tilt your self mid air

[subtle cedar]

i mean it’s ace

[winged plinth]

athletic fade at least has some 3 pointer capability but its not in awakening anymore

[wanton hull]

^

[winged plinth]

naw

thats stupid

[subtle cedar]

Star rework before ace 🙏

[winged plinth]

it shouldnt be a passive

it does need some formless capability implemented but not as a passive

[subtle cedar]

just give athletic fade variants and that’s it

[winged plinth]

baffles me since star is already one of the strongest styles

[subtle cedar]

and rework awk but it’s not that hard

[wanton hull]

Tbh they should instead of a passive make it a third move where you press the third skill and right at take off the last button you press like let’s say s you lean backwards and do a shot like leaning back or press a or d you lean towards the left or right meaning people will have to get better at perdicting

[subtle cedar]

also i think u should be able to fade after a pumpfake

[winged plinth]

no bro

ace does NOT

need a 3rd skill

😭

[wanton hull]

I mean it could replace his second skill

[subtle cedar]

that’s what i said

[winged plinth]

yeah no clue why you cant

do that

[subtle cedar]

give fade variants and that’s it

and rework awk ofc

[wanton hull]

True give the dribble move a variant of off the ball where it becomes a stat buff like zone or a defensive move

To defend

[winged plinth]

thats too much

[subtle cedar]

not the dribble move

[winged plinth]

ace can be strong offensively

[subtle cedar]

Ace is aomine he is made for offense

[winged plinth]

but it doesnt need a def move that strong

[subtle cedar]

if you give him a defensive move considering how strong defensive moves are in the game rn it would just be ace apocalypse

[winged plinth]

maybe a steal move off hand but thats about it

even then

not really too needed

[wanton hull]

like this should be apart of the dribble move

[wanton hull]

Would rather ace apoglips then dealing with blink

[winged plinth]

we do not need a dribble move that has an auto score

[subtle cedar]

you’ll get both lol blink still didn’t get nerfed enough

you can still blink passes btw

[winged plinth]

yeah

even though they said it couldnt anymore

[wanton hull]

I’m talking about when he did the dribble where he turned into kagami at the start of the video

[winged plinth]

ion even think the devs are trying

[wanton hull]

Honeslty would be cool to have 2 point ult veration

like behind the backboard one

[subtle cedar]

u mean just change the animation

cause dribbling is litteraly athletic drive

[wanton hull]

It’s sad to see ace is the worst mythic in the game that even defender styles has better offensive power

[subtle cedar]

Lock is NOT good on offense by itself

[winged plinth]

lock isnt

that good in defense now as well outside of awk

you can steal intercepts

[wanton hull]

You do realize the intercept move still intercepts balls and you just keep it instead

[winged plinth]

and fadeaways just make hands up useless

[wanton hull]

And with the rigth flow

[wanton hull]

It’s busted

[subtle cedar]

« by itself »

[winged plinth]

intercept is garbage lol

you can steal

from it mid animation

[wanton hull]

Y’all never met a good lock user by them selfs have you

[subtle cedar]

situational

not garbage

don’t disrespect my king

[winged plinth]

i have

[subtle cedar]

i am one

lol

lol

lol

[winged plinth]

and they rarely got to use intercept since my teammates kept stealing the ball away

his awk is threatening though ill admit

[wanton hull]

Would be cool like I said to replace the second skill with formless veration like the one time where Aoime went for a dunk but change it mid way into a 2 point shot

[subtle cedar]

i love locks awk

[wanton hull]

True

[subtle cedar]

just score then awk

[wanton hull]

Honeslty clutch rework when

[subtle cedar]

then clamps

[winged plinth]

clutch doesnt really need a rework

its good where it is

maybe buffs sure but

[subtle cedar]

it’s clutch

[winged plinth]

rework is farfetched

[subtle cedar]

remove ankle break from pressure defense and it’s strong

[winged plinth]

its not meant to compete with higher tiers

[wanton hull]

Ace would stop perfection doing a kahama even shown aoime stopping one lmao

[subtle cedar]

vulf already made a suggestion on it

vulf made many suggestions about styles or reworks

[wanton hull]

All ready have a whole ace rework wanna check it out

[winged plinth]

i wanna make a moveset for ace that isnt too bloated but im too lazy

if anything

id rather make a suggestion for teppei

[wanton hull]

Ace with formless could be so fun to use and mess around with in the game

[winged plinth]

i dont care for ace tbh

offense is boring

[subtle cedar]

if they 1:1 copy this into the game it would be amazing

[wanton hull]

W wanna check mine out

[subtle cedar]

k

[wanton hull]

Here is my phantom rework too

@subtle cedar here you go

[subtle cedar]

perfection on steroids

[subtle cedar]

already read it i think phantoms fine

[wanton hull]

Not really unlike perfection with The defense move it will be gaint defense move but worse you will have to time it way more and the cooldowns will be just as long as gaint to balance it more

[subtle cedar]

it’s an epic nothing special should be about him

[winged plinth]

bullet pass is really good though

honestly the effectiveness depends on your team

[subtle cedar]

yeah it isn’t bad it doesn’t need a passive

[wanton hull]

Tbh phantom needs a misdirection bar that changes his moveset when used moves too much

[winged plinth]

naw

the game already has two bars

zone and awk

[wanton hull]

It’s to rerfence it can’t go a full 40 minutes at max effenctly

[winged plinth]

ion think managing another bar is necessary

[subtle cedar]

awk isn’t a bar technically

[winged plinth]

yeah

but two bars is still excessive imo

[subtle cedar]

yeah

[wanton hull]

honeslty phatnom should be stupid strong at the start of the match and ace should be weak at the start of the match but be op by the end of it

Clutch should be op at the last minute of a match

Gaint should be able to stop all 2 point shots

[subtle cedar]

if you join a lobby mid match how will it work

[wanton hull]

Sniper should have a full court shot in base with a 2 minute cooldown that is easy to block and drains all your stamina and makes it so you can’t regain it for 10 seconds

[subtle cedar]

POSTERIZER REWORK

[winged plinth]

full court shot in base

hell no dude

[wanton hull]

It would make sniper really good and actually more usable

[winged plinth]

even if theres drawback that shouldnt be an option

[subtle cedar]

YOU CANT GET BLOCKED DURING A DUNK AND YOU DONT NEED TO JUMP TO BLOCK A DUNK

OR BLOCK A 2 POINTER SHOT

amazing

[winged plinth]

well that sounds oppressive

[subtle cedar]

posterizer meta in 2v2 finally

[winged plinth]

honestly posterizer is fine as it is rn

2v2s made it busted though lol

[wanton hull]

Gaint flow should be reworked where you faster in the 2 point area and have a bigger hit box for grabbed the ball and a small hit box for dunking

[winged plinth]

giant posterizers are terrorizing 2v2s 😭

[wanton hull]

Instead of making dunks being impossible to block

[subtle cedar]

perfection is better for 2v2

[wanton hull]

Fr especially with flash or gaint or perfection

[winged plinth]

naw

posterizer is good rn

doesnt need a rework

[wanton hull]

Would make it balanced

[subtle cedar]

not a rework but a buff

[winged plinth]

its fine as it is

[wanton hull]

Posterize is dumb broken with dribble moves like perfection

[subtle cedar]

unbreakable though

[winged plinth]

you only get two points

[wanton hull]

The problem is that not even perfection can guard it

[winged plinth]

it shouldnt

[subtle cedar]

perfection already has the euro step no need for posterizer

[winged plinth]

why do you want perfections to guard a dunk

its just 2 pts bro

[subtle cedar]

lmaoo

also u can blink in front of the guy to block him

but needs a lot of timing

[winged plinth]

not really worth it but yeah

[subtle cedar]

what’s blinks cooldown

[winged plinth]

personally i just super dunk out of spite or post dunk

[wanton hull]

Can’t do that if they have a unblockable dunk

[winged plinth]

im not sure but rn it got nerfed to global

which is good

[subtle cedar]

i mean it’s a dunk

[winged plinth]

still obnoxious but a good nerf nonetheless

[subtle cedar]

not that serious

[wanton hull]

Tbh ace zone needs a rework where you can do up to 6 dribbles

[winged plinth]

dawg

[wanton hull]

Remove its speed buff

[subtle cedar]

only in 2v2 isn’t it

[wanton hull]

Just give it more dribbles then every other flow

[winged plinth]

hell no bro

[subtle cedar]

hell naw

[winged plinth]

three back dribbles already cover so much groubd

[wanton hull]

perfection zone should not be guarteed jackpot

[winged plinth]

6 back dribbles is insane

[subtle cedar]

6 is diabolical fran i hope u never get into the balancing team

[winged plinth]

😭

six bro

DOUBLE

[wanton hull]

I would be a lot better then the current people in it

[winged plinth]

like dawg no offense but thats brainrot

[winged plinth]

no bro 😭

6 dribbles

[subtle cedar]

you’d just make the game unbalanced

[winged plinth]

you might be one of them

[wanton hull]

Man I’m tired it’s 5:21 am for me I have not slept in 3 days what you expect

[winged plinth]

youve seen

what flashes do with 3 dribbles bro

we do not need flashes to have three more

[subtle cedar]

flash i probably the most balanced style in the game

[winged plinth]

matter of fact imagine an evolved perfection with six dribbles

[winged plinth]

yeah it takes some execution to use

doesnt spoonfeed you either

[wanton hull]

Honeslty hear me out when using ace plus It’s zone the zone should grant 2 extra dribbles instead but it has to be paird up with the style to get this speical effect with the zone

[winged plinth]

ace already has a ton of mobility

[wanton hull]

Nah clutch

[winged plinth]

two extra dribbles is already too much

[wanton hull]

Ace is more balanced then flash

[subtle cedar]

777´s jackpot was supposed to give you 4 dribbles only if you were using jackpot style as well

but it’s for every style for some reason

[wanton hull]

Star, ace ,clutch,phantom are all the most balanced styles in the game

[winged plinth]

as a star main

star is NAWT balanced lets be real

[subtle cedar]

star is decent ace is bad clutch is bad phantom is decent

[wanton hull]

It is its easy to counter

[winged plinth]

wdym

[subtle cedar]

depends on the numbers of players on the court

[wanton hull]

Clutch needs a last minute passive where you get a defensive buff a speed buff and all

[winged plinth]

star pretty much has snatch block on steroids

dash is a good fast break move although

its mid for anything else

[subtle cedar]

it’s a RARE it isn’t supposed to be any different from all the other styles

[winged plinth]

i use unbreakable on star so i dont trip when running after people

[wanton hull]

Clutch is base off of hyuga where he comes in clutch when needed

[subtle cedar]

sky leap is delayed you need to time it well

it’s annoying

[winged plinth]

yeah

ive gotten used to the timing

[wanton hull]

I use sky leap to defend and I perfected the timing

[winged plinth]

so for me its just an upgeade to snatch block

honestly i hope the rework maintains its playstyle

[wanton hull]

True

[winged plinth]

because if they convert it into the usual braindead dribble and auto score playstyle i might crash out

[subtle cedar]

yes i agree but it doesn’t need any special feature its a rare

instead they should rework hustle

HUSTLE SUCKS OMG

[winged plinth]

i dont know what hustle is ion remember

OH THE ZONE

I FORGOT IT EXISTED

[subtle cedar]

when neither teams have the ball you have a sliiiight speed boost

[winged plinth]

thats acc so buns lol

js use sprinter atp

[wanton hull]

Yet he is able to score againts all of the three kings and even Akashi when it comes to clutch time

[winged plinth]

then again

this game isnt lore accurate

[subtle cedar]

YES I AGREE but it’s a RARE

[winged plinth]

if it was lore accurate perfect arc would have no cooldown

[subtle cedar]

the higher your rarity is the more different you are

[winged plinth]

and star would have no jump endlag

[subtle cedar]

and kuroko would be invisible for the whole game

[wanton hull]

So your saying the other rare style the most busted style chuck when you get your shots in becomes the most busted style because it you land every shot eveuntly any time the enemy scores your just handed the ball and auto score a three because the enemy team can’t defend you in time

[subtle cedar]

and jackpot would have infinite cursed energy

[wanton hull]

No if it was more accurate it would have my rework in the game

[subtle cedar]

it’s not about being strong it’s about being different

[winged plinth]

that is if the shots go in

[wanton hull]

Their easy to land

[winged plinth]

except heat check is one of the most blockable moves

[wanton hull]

clutch needs a rework tbh

[subtle cedar]

that’s why it isn’t in the game it’s because it’s not lore accurate

[winged plinth]

literally a worse fade

[winged plinth]

it dont

its fine as it is

[wanton hull]

it does

[subtle cedar]

agaisnt 65 overalls

[wanton hull]

I wanna main clutch but it’s so trash

[winged plinth]

literally chrollo said in the qna

that it doesnt

all it needs is a buff

[subtle cedar]

any 85+ overall blocks heat check with ease

[winged plinth]

😭

[wanton hull]

I use to main chuck and I brought it into ranked yesterday any time their was no perfection user it terroized them

[winged plinth]

then again this game

is not lore accurate

and it doesnt have to be

[subtle cedar]

ranked only has low iq players

for some reason

[wanton hull]

Honeslty I want to see a squidward style in the game next

[subtle cedar]

pro servers though

[wanton hull]

^

[winged plinth]

pro servers are sweatier than ranked icl

[subtle cedar]

level 80+ is crazy

[wanton hull]

Squidward style when

[subtle cedar]

im only level 57 what kind of sweat are there in these

[wanton hull]

https://tenor.com/view/squidward-dance-dancing-squidward-dance-squidward-dancing-gif-21773330

We need this as a style @winged plinth

Would be crazy funny

[winged plinth]

uh

sure

[wanton hull]

I want it as a style and would dog walk perfection

What would the moves have

[subtle cedar]

just go to sleep at this point

[wanton hull]

1.tentacle grab where you reach up or around you and grab the ball in a 4 meter radius

[winged plinth]

i think homie is baked asl rn

[wanton hull]

2.tentacle dribble

This is where you dribble the ball to the multiple tentacles you have making it impossible to grab the ball it would almost as long as ace dribble and go slighty less far

Ult move

You enter a cutscene where you throw the ball into the air and slap it with your tentacles

[subtle cedar]

mini intercept

[subtle cedar]

dribble king but 0% miss chance

[winged plinth]

me when my

50 ovr chuck teammate uses dribble king and fails instead of passing

[wanton hull]

Honeslty allow chuck styles to end their dribble early to Instaly pass the ball to catch them off guard

[winged plinth]

kinda ruins the point of the 50/50

[subtle cedar]

chuck is supposed to be the 50 ovr teammate

that’s why it’s so bad

[wanton hull]

Chuck should be moved to epic tbh

It’s too good to be a rare

[subtle cedar]

it was before

[subtle cedar]

rarity isn’t about being good

[wanton hull]

Bro your a hypocrite then

Well kinda

Well ima go and sleep

[subtle cedar]

not rlly

[rapid elk]

I just came back after a min and this is wat happened

[hybrid parrot]

Not until you saw ace user dribbling on air

[winged plinth]

still better than ace

[hybrid parrot]

Skill issue

[winged plinth]

you gotta have a worse skill issue if you think ace is better than star

[wind wing]

nah, i say ban double teaming styles and perfection from ranked as theyre incredibly hard to deal with

[charred monolith]

make it take it is really bad for this game

stealing the ball is too hard

iframes last too long

dribbling makes you faster than defenders

pump fake passes

and not to mention the terrible hitboxes

whoever starts with the ball basically just wins

[turbid plank]

Not really, just play defense

[turbid plank]

They don't exist in ranked