nerf perfection before I paint my ceiling

[tropic crag]

istg if I get my shot get INSTANTLY blocked by another perfection again im gonna be ronnie mcnut

[grim summit]

they should make the cooldown of it kinda longer or shorten the distance of the block

[dire aspen]

Just limit to 1 per team

[tropic crag]

just rework blink

and nerf perfect step

[dire aspen]

Being blocked by perfection ain't that bad

[tropic crag]

make it easier to block

like chuck's heat check

[dire aspen]

You realize

[tropic crag]

kind ofi s

[dire aspen]

Perfection isn't meant to be bad?

[dire aspen]

Not really

[tropic crag]

i know but its just TOO GOOD

its breaking the game

[dire aspen]

You can't control how you block it

It's not that op

[tropic crag]

an instant long rage block

a auto goal thats also a dribble that goes halfway across the map

alos

the evolution move

is broken

[dire aspen]

The only thing that they can nerf before making it useless are:

Nerfing perfect step slightly

Allowing 1 per game

Adding a limited inventory

[tropic crag]

they should rework blink entirely

[dire aspen]

How so?

[tropic crag]

it should be like star's sky leap or giant's block

[dire aspen]

Blink is fine how it is

[tropic crag]

its just sooo easy to use

just press V when they shoot and its an auto block

maybe it just shouldnt

be a block

just a teleport to your opponent

[dire aspen]

It's not just a block

Pump fake then

[tropic crag]

it should just be the teleport

[dire aspen]

Make them waste the blink

[tropic crag]

theres 2~3 perfections per lobby rn

these losers keep making alts

thats the bad part

especially for new players

imagine being a new BBZ player

you join the noob servers

and theres like

5 perfections

spamming blink on you

[dire aspen]

That's why I suggested allowing 1 per team

[tropic crag]

yes

thats a good idea

or MAYBE JUST MAYBE

remove perfection after the duration

it might

be controversial

but i think it should just be gone

entirely

[dire aspen]

No

[tropic crag]

its fun and cool

but its just too OP

either

nerf it to match the power of a mythic

or

remove it

or

add it in a seperate server idk

wait

[dire aspen]

It's only op because of the blink which is just fine

[tropic crag]

they should absolutely

[valid lichen]

Hear me out any time they use blink they get the nerf of Hakari jackpot ult debuff for 3 seconds

[tropic crag]

disable perfection in ranked

[tropic crag]

maybe just make the blink block require skill

reduce the range

[dire aspen]

Let me explain something to you

[tropic crag]

perfect step's 3 pointer should absolutely be nerfed

[valid lichen]

Nah do my idea instead so it’s still busted but in return you get nerfed due to teleporting and landing on your feet would hurt you

[tropic crag]

good idea but make it 5 seconds

[valid lichen]

Worst part is my friends use perfection yet call ace no skill

[tropic crag]

😂✌️

ace is pretty no skill tho

but perfect is less skilled

[valid lichen]

Ace is the most skilled mythic in this game and takes more skill then every style besides all rares epics and star

[tropic crag]

im gonna have to disagree with you on that one

ace's base is really easy to use

his ult

maybe harder to use

i think giant is the most skilled mythic

[valid lichen]

Nah being able to basically have a guarteed dunk move also a blocking moving guarteed not to mention being able to body others and able to interpret your own teammate shots

[dire aspen]

Perfection is hated primarily because of "blink" in which can be pump fake wasted like star and giant if your defender is stupid, allowing it to be like giant makes it useless.

Furthermore, you also need to keep in mind that perfection is a meme character, and mythics are coming constantly, it'll slowly become balanced overtime.

Also like to mention how you can't control where the ball goes, so if you have flash or something, you could theoretically take the ball back

[tropic crag]

the block move requires skill

[valid lichen]

Nah I press one button and block all shots

it’s just people are stupid with it

[tropic crag]

if its a meme character, they should have made it free for everyone and then remove it after the event is over

[valid lichen]

I know how to use any style to its maximum

[tropic crag]

you need timing and precision

its not that easy to use

ace has a long dribble move

and the shot

is literally auto aimed at the 3 pointer line

and its super hard to block

[valid lichen]

True if they do that give 20 lucky spins if you have perfection and another 20 if you have the zone as a means of refund

[tropic crag]

but some people spent more on the style

[dire aspen]

That's why it's a limited

[tropic crag]

theres no going back now

its staying in the game

[valid lichen]

Ace dribble move is run speed meaning you can keep up plus the shot move is easy to learn to guard

[tropic crag]

its slightly faster

and it restores your stamina

if you use it a bit late

so yeah you can go across the map

[valid lichen]

Well sucks to sucks yet I ain’t complaing I spent 80$ for Don lonzero yet never got him in blue lock rivals yet you don’t see me complaing

[tropic crag]

and use athletic fade

to easily score

[valid lichen]

You can still keep up pretty easily

[tropic crag]

i think id be pissed if i spent 50+ lucky spins on perfection and it just gets removed

[valid lichen]

Athletic fade is easy to block gang

[tropic crag]

its unpredictable

[valid lichen]

look where they step first

[tropic crag]

harder for noobs

the most skilled

mythics are

[tough token]

They should just add a ban system in 3v3 and in ranked

[tropic crag]

1. giant
2. jackpot
3. copycat
4. ace

ace is the least skilled

[valid lichen]

Because it’s a mythic gang of course they gonna struggle Blocking it dude their new to the game and still have to learn

[valid lichen]

No just no admit it you lose to ace daily and it shows

[tropic crag]

i see noobs scoring easily with it

thats how easy it is to use

[valid lichen]

Jackpot and copycat take way less skill

[tropic crag]

copycat actually has SOME thinking into it

the dribble move is braindead tho

idk

[valid lichen]

No

[tropic crag]

jackpot is hard to use

lucky bounce has janky hitboxes

[valid lichen]

Jackpot is easy to use

[tropic crag]

sometimes it doesnt work sometimes it does

its entirely luck based too

if you miss steal you get penalized pretty heavily

[valid lichen]

I use to use jackpot got boring spinned it off cause on how easily I won matches with it

[tropic crag]

lowkey

[dire aspen]

Just add a cap limit to it tbh

[tropic crag]

ace is easier

its

the most

basic moveset

[valid lichen]

Ace is easier to use but harder to master

[tropic crag]

1. shoot
2. dribble

its not that hard

[dire aspen]

Copycat takes more skill

[tropic crag]

how does one master ace

[tough token]

It’s not even that it’s just perfect I just think they should for ranked and especially when more styles come out

[tropic crag]

just nerf copycat's flowstep and we're good

[valid lichen]

Learning how to turn your camera at the right speed and such for the fade

[tropic crag]

does that affect anything

i think it does the same shoot regardless

you could do the same thing with any style

[valid lichen]

Can effect where it goes or make it almost impossible to shot if you don’t trust your instincts to guard

[dire aspen]

People are saying this because they just don't like it, like how I explained it, blink can be to pumpfaked

[tropic crag]

its a set path tho

[valid lichen]

Cause I use to it rebound immediately to me tricking the enemy’s into looking away and then I shoot a 3 unguarded

[tropic crag]

left right left

i mean

sure thats skill

[west stone]

Both horrible suggestions since alot of people only have one style slot

[tropic crag]

but the style itself

is easy to use

[west stone]

They would be forced to play as clutch if that were the case

[tropic crag]

the thing you're doinf

g

[valid lichen]

Fr just add a free slot

[tropic crag]

only affects 10% of cases

most of the time you can just use fade and it works

[dire aspen]

That would force the dev to add a 'limited' inventory

[tropic crag]

unless you're going up against a demon

[valid lichen]

I feel my self losing skill with any other mythic or perfection

[tropic crag]

whats a limited inventory

[valid lichen]

I be constnstly getting 5v1 by my friends

[vapid tangle]

It’s a limited style, it’s supposed to be better than most, otherwise there’s no point getting it

[valid lichen]

and they be using styles like perfection and copy cat

yet I still win

[tropic crag]

use the 2nd skill and you're at the 3 pointer line dw

[dire aspen]

For limited styles such as perfection

[hallow violet]

Giant isn't THAT braindead 🥀

[west stone]

Until then, suggestions as style bans and style cap is bad

[tropic crag]

copy cat should be able to copy perfection's base

if it can copy ult moves

it should be able to copy the base moves too

[turbid hedge]

that isnt

unreasonable

[valid lichen]

Gaint is it is hard to learn easy to master but once you master it is one of the most brain dead styles in the game

[turbid hedge]

although

the only thing that needs a nerf is probably blink

[dire aspen]

Giant is a defense character

[tropic crag]

you have to master it

thats the point

[turbid hedge]

and maybe the evolution buffs

[tropic crag]

if you master anything it becomes good

[turbid hedge]

just maybe

[valid lichen]

Gaint is a all rounder

[tropic crag]

also

[valid lichen]

Ace is easy to learn hard to master

[tropic crag]

giant's first move is broken

[dire aspen]

A all around dunker

[tropic crag]

it doesnt work

[valid lichen]

Perfection is easy to learn easy to master

[dire aspen]

His offense sucks

[tropic crag]

easy to learn, easy to master

[hallow violet]

I mean I guess I literally always steal the ball guaranteed because I snatch block them immediately and score an easy three

[valid lichen]

Copycat hard to learn due to sheer amount of skills easy to master

Jackpot hard to learn easy to master

[tropic crag]

why is jackpot hard to learn

dribble
steal
pass
dash
stun

[valid lichen]

Nope harder to master cause of the fade shot

[tropic crag]

eh maybe the gimmik is tricky

[tropic crag]

fade shot is the easiest shooting move in the game vro..

its not that skilled

[hallow violet]

Evolution + speed dribble lets you travel half the court with three dribbles lol

[valid lichen]

It starts going into veration and learning how to use the steal proply

[turbid hedge]

it does

lol

[tropic crag]

yeah i saw that too

[turbid hedge]

which is dumb

[tropic crag]

its not that big of a difference, still the same shoot

its kind of a

placebo thing

you think you're doing something but you really aint

[valid lichen]

Tbh clutch rework when

[valid lichen]

^

[tropic crag]

its a basic style it doesnt need rework

[dire aspen]

16th more likely

[tropic crag]

star needs a slight nerf

to sky leap

and a buff to dash

dash is so buns

[valid lichen]

It does don’t diss my boi he is goated in the anime and manga

[turbid hedge]

no it doesnt the hell

[valid lichen]

Bro be making 3 shots easily when he locks in

[hallow violet]

Playing against 1 perfection in a team isn't that bad at all it's when there's multiple that's when it becomes ridiculously annoying

[tropic crag]

you can shoot and travel across the map easily

free dunk

[valid lichen]

Just use Gaint

[tropic crag]

if enemies are near your line

but

the real thing is

copycat should be able to copy

perfection

that is the only reasonable nerf to perfection

[hallow violet]

Yeah I do I main giant but I lag a lot cuz WiFi so can't really do nun

[tough token]

They should lowkey add something where if you make back to back to back threes you “lock in” like he did in the anime and shoots faster or something

[tropic crag]

copycat cant do anything when theres a bunch of perfections in your lobby

which is 99% of the time

[tropic crag]

that should be a flow

wait

isnt that just

normal flows

xd

[valid lichen]

Then that is a you problem not a game problem learn to trust your instincts like how shidou does

[hallow violet]

Yes 😂

[turbid hedge]

nobody falls for that anymore lol

esp now that blinks exist

[tropic crag]

thats the problem

blink is the problem

gah

[valid lichen]

I trust my instincts when guarding and now I’m able to guard perfection 3 easily

[tropic crag]

just let me copy perfection

for real..........

[tough token]

Nah like this is only for clutch which would make him better and he can have the zone on top of that which would make him way better

[valid lichen]

^

[tropic crag]

its a rare style its not supposed to be good

[valid lichen]

I don’t need a block move to be good I’m able to guard anything

[tropic crag]

maybe if you're good at it it could be good

[tropic crag]

even perfect step?

i can block perfect step sometimes but its kind of tricky

since sometimes it bugs out and shoots sideways

and it still goes in

[hallow violet]

Bro no offense but this is just yap what do you want me to do against multiple perfections who know know how blink works and are already lined up behind me to get the ball already running

[dire aspen]

Clutch should be epic

[tropic crag]

somehow

[valid lichen]

Yeah the 3 is easy the layup 2 is a lot more hard and I’m still learning to guard it if at all possible

[tough token]

Well you never know they should definitely make it a tad bit better soon though when later updates come out so it’s still usable

[tropic crag]

then there would be only 1 rare style and it will be chuck 🤮

[dire aspen]

No style is deserving to be rare

[turbid hedge]

except chuck

[hallow violet]

Chuck

[turbid hedge]

chuck is buns

[tropic crag]

i think

phantom and playmaker

[dire aspen]

Not really

[tropic crag]

needs heavy reworks

id rather get chuck

than lay my eyes upon playmaker

so not fun to use

[hallow violet]

Why not

[turbid hedge]

50 ovr chuck mains using dribble king instead of passing

[hallow violet]

😭

[dire aspen]

The shooting move gains range overtime

[turbid hedge]

not really worth the effort

plus its very blockable

[hallow violet]

And it's 50/50 they're not scoring enough to get a substantial range boost unless the opposing team is dogwater

[dire aspen]

All shooting skills are easily blockable

[turbid hedge]

yeah thats kinda why

heat check sucks

[dire aspen]

Giant can snatch and still get range boost

[hallow violet]

The style as a whole is a certified rare

[turbid hedge]

honestly

youre better off just using limitless rather than

trying to get heat check range up

[hallow violet]

real

Tbh I like quickdraw more

[turbid hedge]

yeha its better

[hallow violet]

Though I use speed dribble

So goated

[dire aspen]

I like perfectionist

Goated

[hallow violet]

3in1

[dire aspen]

What?

[turbid hedge]

i dont think

its hard to comprehend that

its three zones in one

[dire aspen]

I understand that, but I can only see 2

[hallow violet]

The boosts I mean

[turbid hedge]

speed dribbler limitless and sprinter basically

[dire aspen]

What?

[turbid hedge]

street

dribbler

oops

forgot

[dire aspen]

It's stree dribbler and a little bit of 777

[hallow violet]

Stronger dribbles, you move faster, range boost

[turbid hedge]

street dribbler

a better sprinter

and a slightly nerfed limitless

practically three

[dire aspen]

2*

[turbid hedge]

so sprinter just doesnt exist

alright

[dire aspen]

Idek sprinter existed

That's how much I don't pay attention to that

I usually have enough money to get pitty

From afk

[high wren]

not at all

[dire aspen]

Yes

[turbid hedge]

it really isnt

[high wren]

perfections are going to be completely running ranked

[hallow violet]

Blink isn't annoying if you're against 1 perfection imo it's when there's multiple of them it's so freaking annoying

[turbid hedge]

auto block move without timing required with an insane amount of range

isnt really a good thing

[high wren]

its fine when theres one but think about ranked

its just gonna be 3 perfections

[dire aspen]

Why I said add a cap and a separate inventory for it

[high wren]

you shouldnt be able to doit AFTER the shot is already up

[high wren]

thats a weird solution

[dire aspen]

So is straight up banning it

[high wren]

rather than just nerf the move

causing the problem

who said ban it??

[dire aspen]

Nerfing it would make it useless

[high wren]

no it wouldnt

it can be not OP

[turbid hedge]

i dont think

[high wren]

and not be useless

why does it have to be extremes

[dire aspen]

Many

[turbid hedge]

theyll nerf it to that point

[high wren]

it can be nerfed and still be good??

[hallow violet]

I'd rather not have my moves capped because it's too good i'd rather have it get nerfed

[turbid hedge]

nerfing it isnt going to make it useless

[west stone]

Lets just all be forced to use Chuck on ranked

Ez fix

[high wren]

but rn its just ridiculous

[turbid hedge]

blink as of now shouldnt be that easy to use

[high wren]

ranked is going to be horrible purely bc of perfection lol

[hallow violet]

Fr like giant snatch got nerfed a while ago and it's a top tier move 😭 I love giant man

[high wren]

meta lineup is just gonna be 3 ppl with perfection

spamming blink

if u think thats fun

all the power to u

[west stone]

They did say they're prioritizing balancing the game before ranked comes so maybe expect some big changes tomorrow

[turbid hedge]

lets see

blink rn

is NOT fine

[high wren]

hopefuly they will

not having high hopes

[turbid hedge]

there shouldnt be a move that literally just spoonfeeds blocking to you

[hallow violet]

I seen ppl saying pumpfake is the solution to a move like blink, it's so stupid what we gonna do if they wait out the pumpfake 💀
Like they are NOT hard to predict

[high wren]

they can jump

first

and then blink after the shot

[west stone]

I hate how blink rewards players for playing bad defense

[high wren]

is already up

its stupid

[hallow violet]

Exactly

[hallow violet]

Nerf blink istg

[turbid hedge]

bro LOOK

[hallow violet]

I could have scored so MANY threes

[west stone]

Atleasy with giant and jackpot there's risk doing it

[high wren]

its a better defensive style than lock idc if its called perfection

[hallow violet]

• giant has less range

[turbid hedge]

lock is mediocre for defense

[high wren]

intercept is rly good hands up is subpar

[hallow violet]

Locks hands up move is lowk useless to me

[turbid hedge]

intercept isnt good now sadly

you can steal from them during it

[high wren]

if you press C twice

it passes

[hallow violet]

one of the Devs said they're working on fixing that

[high wren]

during the anim

[hallow violet]

I dunno for sure tho

[turbid hedge]

thank you

i still feel like

lock was such a band aid type of style for defense

[hallow violet]

Passing can already be easily punished if your team is bad at positioning or you suck at passing or just getting crowded

Lock is just

Yeah

[turbid hedge]

i feel like they couldve came up with something better than hands up

you can literally just do a fade

[hallow violet]

It's more of a nuisance then like "oh crap they got my pass!" Whenever I saw someone use it

Because all their team mates would be crowded either way

[hallow violet]

Literally 😭

I only used it to auto block passes

[turbid hedge]

i use it

to scare people

[high wren]

yeah i guess its more of a defensive playmaker

[turbid hedge]

its not doing anything

so ill just psychologically damage them with it

[hallow violet]

Also if I get pumpfaked

It's useful there but that's about it

[sage spindle]

You teleport to the person with the ball, then you just jump since you're close range

[hallow violet]

I literally have to go for two's instead of threes simply because multiple perfection users exist

it's pmo 🥀

[sage spindle]

That's why I'm not playing bbz till the new style drops

[turbid hedge]

i dunk out of spite

when theres perfections

[hallow violet]

hate them

[hallow violet]

I got 60 lucky spins stocked

I haven't spun off giant since it released it's just that goated

Only got PERFECTION in second slot because it was limited ¯⁠\⁠_⁠(⁠ツ⁠)⁠_⁠/⁠¯

[turbid hedge]

i dont have an issue going against perfection

id just rather not do it

[sage spindle]

I have 91 ls stocked

[sage spindle]

I didn't even try to get it bc it looked braindead

[turbid hedge]

i dont use it

i just have it for display

[hallow violet]

I'll probably wait for Akashi to get released in the near or distant future

[hallow violet]

real

[turbid hedge]

im a filthy star and giant main because im an unga bunga gameplay enthusiast

[sage spindle]

I main Ace and Copycat, bc Aomine and Kise are GOATED

[hallow violet]

I only main giant

[turbid hedge]

honestly

i want them to do star right

[hallow violet]

For real

Star was the first legendary and style I used

[turbid hedge]

like if sky leap and space dunk arent still in there im leaving

or at least

moves that are similar

[hallow violet]

I stole the ball with star leap once and I just felt like the best player on the court 😭

[turbid hedge]

it honestly feels very rewarding

thats why i want them to keep sky leap

but as for space dunk

idk

its hilarious to use

[valid lichen]

I love ace just wish it got a rework

[tropic crag]

fellas

nerf perfection

istg

[lyric pagoda]

Blink is annoying to play up against if the whole team uses perfection. I think a lot of people have a problem that going up against perfection pretty much invalidates all 3 point shots when blink is in play

[dire aspen]

That's why they need to add a limited inventory and cap how many perfection they have in the game

[lyric pagoda]

That's just stupid.

[dire aspen]

How

Explain

It's better than having a 5v5 perfection only

[lyric pagoda]

Nerfing the quantity of perfections in bbz doesn't really change anything

[formal crown]

this dude definitely just got perfection 😭😭

[lyric pagoda]

I already mentioned a decent solution

[dire aspen]

I do

[turbid hedge]

perfection molecular downplay display coming up

[dire aspen]

But if you nerf the amount, then you don't have people literally blinking a 3 and then start kicking the ball like soccer

[lyric pagoda]

Have a ban vote in ranked (only) and give all players an additional slot so they can play the other style in case perfection gets banned

[dire aspen]

A cap would be better

[lyric pagoda]

Oh, I thought you meant limiting perfection to the first 100k players or some bs 😭

[dire aspen]

No

Capping how much can be use during a game

[lyric pagoda]

I think a longer cd on blink especially is warranted

[dire aspen]

1 on each team

[lyric pagoda]

Like 1 perfection per team?

[dire aspen]

Yes

[lyric pagoda]

I think having a ban vote is better for ranked

[turbid hedge]

yeah

[wooden frigate]

honestly i think they should just rework blink completely, but the chance of that happening is so low i honestly wont even hope

[turbid hedge]

ban votes are much simpler to implement

[turbid hedge]

all we can count on is a nerf

[dire aspen]

Nerfing teleporting distance, nerfing perfect dribble distance

[turbid hedge]

and hopefully its a proper one

because uh

rn its probably the easiest move to use

tp auto block is an absurd prospect

[wooden frigate]

i feel like blink is literally just a randomized snatch block because its mostly a 50/50, either the other team gets the ball again and scores anyway or you get enough distance

i think its kind of a stupid skill ESPECIALLY when there are 2 or more perfections in the lobby

[turbid hedge]

the issue isnt really who gets the ball

[lyric pagoda]

Invalidating a 3 that should go in is bs. Even giant needs some kind of timing

[turbid hedge]

it just denies plays and shots

with zero effort whatsoever

not even pumpfakes do anything because all a perfection has to do

is wait for the ball to fly

because the timing isnt strict either

no matter how much skill you use to get past multiple defenders and get a shot

a perfection is out there

[dire aspen]

I mean

[turbid hedge]

crayon in mouth and blink button in hand

[wooden frigate]

yeah technically you can pumpfake it if they press blink early but that doesnt work 90% of the time since you can counter that by literally just waiting for the ball to fly

[lyric pagoda]

I hate how easy blink is to use and I play perfection 😭

[turbid hedge]

everything in its kit is easy to use tbh

[wooden frigate]

i think the dribble is fine tbh maybe nerf the 3 point shot after the dribble a bit but thats it

[turbid hedge]

and the fact that it practically does everything and every role

with zero difficulty

[wooden frigate]

its pretty similar to the copycat dribble though that ones kinda busted too

[turbid hedge]

honestly

imo it shouldntve been an option

since the layup is already there

but honestly

we gotta live with it

lmao

[wooden frigate]

i mean you can block it but ive never seen it get blocked because the dribble creates so much distance its pretty much impossible

[fervent oasis]

Perfection 3 points dribble is just bs, it should only work with the 2 points one

[turbid hedge]

its still absurd tbh

perfection with both a 2pt and 3pt option

the 3pt option was so excessive tbh

[wooden frigate]

honestly what they could do with blink is make it similar to snatch block, make the timing tighter and then maybe give the ability to pass to a teammate after blocking

though that could still be kinda busted since youre still teleporting

[turbid hedge]

honestly itd be better if it just assisted the user with a block rather than automatically doing it for you

[wooden frigate]

wdym by that

[turbid hedge]

like

rather than the move blocking for you

you should still block manually although with the move assisting you so you can close the space easier thus block easier

[wooden frigate]

that would work but thats too much of a change, i doubt theyd even consider this

[turbid hedge]

yeah

thats pretty much a rework by then

honestly

lets hope it gets a proper nerf

not too much of a nerf to make it obsolete ofc

just enough to keep it strong but less obnoxious