#Why Cant Copycat Copy Perfection?

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mint blade
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i need wtv your smoking

polar zealot
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it being limited isnt the issue

mint blade
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itā€™s gotta be top notch

low hinge
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only saying this bc you didnt spin perfection

mint blade
low hinge
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literally common sense

surreal mural
polar zealot
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i literally have perfection

stuck knot
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u cant copy perfection

mint blade
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i got it in 30 lucky spins

surreal mural
polar zealot
mint blade
polar zealot
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the logic

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falls apart easily

surreal mural
low hinge
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limited style means its meant to be rare if copycat can just copy it the style isnt limited anymore lets use our brains

polar zealot
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youre not copying the entire style

mint blade
low hinge
mint blade
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idiots bro

surreal mural
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im correcting the other guy for saying you can copy perfection or smth so chill

mint blade
surreal mural
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i wasnt chatting to you šŸ„µ

mint blade
surreal mural
low hinge
mint blade
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youā€™ve been struck by a smooth criminal

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OW

polar zealot
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copying perfection doesnt take away its limited status away

vivid pike
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will we have perfection if the limited style ran out if you know what i mean?

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also whats happening here

mint blade
surreal mural
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why are they getting rage baited with me not rage baiting like what?????

kind spruce
vivid pike
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relax

mint blade
polar zealot
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uh

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rephrase that question

mint blade
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idk if you have smth named common sense

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not a lot of ppl have it nowadays

mint blade
vivid pike
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who made him mad?

mint blade
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the english language is slowly dying

mint blade
surreal mural
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lol

mint blade
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and idiots who give dumb logic for why copy should copy perfection

surreal mural
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all i said is this loll

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mint blade
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and no itā€™s only limited for how long itā€™ll stay, you keep it after

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a lil bit of common sense would go a long way

surreal mural
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mhm

mint blade
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at all

surreal mural
mint blade
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iā€™m mad at the other ppl who give worse logic

surreal mural
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soooo were both lying

vivid pike
mint blade
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his logic is so brain dead it gave me a headache

surreal mural
mint blade
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what is festival tag

surreal mural
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i made it up

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idk im special

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or im perfect šŸ«”

blazing plover
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just make copycat copy perfect fr man, because there's like ton of perfect user so brainless

graceful solstice
surreal mural
graceful solstice
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Ahhh

mint blade
vivid pike
mint blade
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cris iā€™m sorry for being mean to you

blazing plover
mint blade
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i can see your a man of logic

polar zealot
surreal mural
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nothing is perfect only cell is

vivid pike
polar zealot
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obviously not but here we are with copycat imitating jackpot

mint blade
polar zealot
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logic does not work in this game bro

mint blade
graceful solstice
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I think they arent letting copycat copy perfection is because perfection will be limited, and if copycat was able to copy perfection it would make more people just go for copycat as its a higher chance, just a thought, im prolly most likey wrong tho

blazing plover
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cant answer a question without answer

polar zealot
vivid pike
surreal mural
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this all started because of me i feel like that one guy in the 1930's

vivid pike
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soooo

polar zealot
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copying one move is different from having the entire style

graceful solstice
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You right

polar zealot
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copycat being able to take one move doesnt remove the limited status from perfection

smoky nest
graceful solstice
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the only think I could think of is the dev team thinks it would defeat the purpose of going for it, but you right, sicne I really couldnt come up with literally any other reason

vivid pike
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šŸ‘

polar zealot
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powercreep is one hell of a drug

mint blade
polar zealot
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right now

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with the amount of people that have perfection

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it sure as hell doesnt feel like a limited style

graceful solstice
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Oh yea deff

vivid pike
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i thought getting perfection would be little difficult

graceful solstice
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At first Youd think wow i got a 2 percent style, surely nobody has it

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go into a game

mint blade
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and sadly it ainā€™t

graceful solstice
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everyone got it

polar zealot
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i guarantee you most servers youre in are gonna contain AT LEAST 3 perfections

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thats three entire players copycat cant imitate

graceful solstice
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Im playin right now, everyone has it, 5v5

mint blade
polar zealot
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which is stupid

graceful solstice
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its chaos

vivid pike
polar zealot
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if everyone has a style

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that copycat cant imitate

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that only makes it obsolete

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which ruins the point

graceful solstice
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Sometimes, we have to become the thing we hate the most

glad stirrup
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I'm just using a one move style atp šŸ˜­

polar zealot
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not that i expect the devs to have critical thinking when it comes to balancing the game but we move

graceful solstice
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I remember I was using copycat one game and was chill since I really didnt want to use just perfection, all I had was a phantom to copy bro, was horrible

polar zealot
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and thats why its not good

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everyone already has perfection

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if everyone has a style that copycat cant replicate

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then the style kinda loses its point

graceful solstice
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I would go giant, but that damn blink move can counter everything, would go ace but again, cant make a shot when theres literal god above smacking the ball out of the air

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plus post-form bugged so

vivid pike
graceful solstice
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cant even use that

graceful solstice
polar zealot
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giant somewhat needs timing and spacinh

ripe dune
polar zealot
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blink

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with blink you dont even have to think

graceful solstice
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bars

polar zealot
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i could probably let my newborn kitten play cell and that thing is for sure getting mvp 3 times over

ripe dune
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how do you counter blink

vivid pike
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i think

graceful solstice
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I guess some disagree fr

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vivid pike
polar zealot
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its uh

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ragebait

graceful solstice
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Ah

polar zealot
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if my shot gets blinked

graceful solstice
polar zealot
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i just sky leap towards the ball

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but even then

graceful solstice
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Blink against blink is all I see

polar zealot
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ITS USELESS

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because even if i try to shoot

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there most definitely is another cell

vivid pike
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two perfection using blink at the same time is a waste

polar zealot
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waiting to blink

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so im just over here dunking now

graceful solstice
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The only way I know for a fact blink aint blocking me, is dunking constantly

polar zealot
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yeah

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makes me appreciate star more

graceful solstice
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fr

polar zealot
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space dunk my beloved

graceful solstice
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Makes me love posterizer

polar zealot
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but if a cell gets awk

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just give up

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let the dude evolve and score like 20 points

vivid pike
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star leap mmy favorite move cause you can steal the ball while the enemy is holding it

polar zealot
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yeah

noble garnet
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jackpot is better

polar zealot
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braindead take

next cloak
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why copycat need to have the ability to copy a "special limited time" style,when copy cat can be obtained everytime.

polar zealot
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because it doesnt copy the entire moveset

next cloak
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bad idea on making copy cat so overpowered

polar zealot
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it literally copies one move

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and that doesnt even take away from perfection being limited

ripe dune
noble garnet
# polar zealot braindead take

good luck getting the ball in a match with decent players consistently, even if you get free with dribbles everyone and their mothers have blink

polar zealot
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and look

graceful solstice
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at least we can copy the awk so theres that, ofc not the evolution but

next cloak
polar zealot
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me when i use evolution

graceful solstice
polar zealot
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and back dribble 3 times

graceful solstice
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nah

noble garnet
polar zealot
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it doesnt

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lol

graceful solstice
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back dribble four times due to zone

polar zealot
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layups yeah

noble garnet
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you can just blink close then block

polar zealot
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dribbles no

graceful solstice
next cloak
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This aint unplayable

noble garnet
polar zealot
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ah yes

graceful solstice
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it wont let you due to being to close to hoop

noble garnet
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100% works, ive done it easily before multiple times

graceful solstice
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thats why dunks can beat blink

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just be smart about movement with team

polar zealot
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me when im a copy main and almost the entirety of the server uses perfection

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i totally have something to copy

blazing plover
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Had ur guys find a 3vs3 match and there is 4 player use perfect while u on copycat

graceful solstice
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I main every mythic man, I got to have variety, I cant just play one you know

blazing plover
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Man what a good day

graceful solstice
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oh and lock

noble garnet
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lock is so boring

graceful solstice
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it is, but useful

vivid pike
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i kinda like lockdown even though i never used it

versed patio
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Kise can copy everyone's abilities in perfect copy/his ult so it makes fair sense for the devs to only allow you to copy his ult because in the anime kise has to use perfect copy which is as strong as the zone to copy the generation of miracles

polar zealot
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blink has a range limit and an evolved cell can easily avoid that by back dribbling four times

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pair that with speed dribbling and you practically have four flash dashes

graceful solstice
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ye

polar zealot
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hell

versed patio
graceful solstice
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oh and DONT GET ME STARTED

noble garnet
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jackpots awk easily beats cell every day of the week

next cloak
vivid pike
mint blade
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itā€™s entirely luck based

graceful solstice
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ON FROM THEIR SIDE OF COURT, DRIBBLE FOUR TIMES, POP AWK, DRIBBLE 4 TIMES, POP EVO, DRIBBLE FOUR TIMES TO PAINT,

polar zealot
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oh im sorry

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an evolved cell with speed dribbling

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HAS A LONGER DASH THAN FLASH

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yeah no thats not a good thing

graceful solstice
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I will say tho, as the timer comes to a close the less distance they go so eh

noble garnet
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as well as a guaranteed deny 3 and two potential ways of getting 3s

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oh did i mention you can abuse cutscenes with jackpot

polar zealot
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it isnt guaranteed

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unfortunately

noble garnet
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lucky pull is?

polar zealot
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unlike perfection

mint blade
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if your too far

polar zealot
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lucky pull isnt guaranteed

noble garnet
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then dont be an idiot?

versed patio
mint blade
noble garnet
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are you stupid

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i said 3 pointer

mint blade
graceful solstice
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players*

mint blade
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exactly

noble garnet
mint blade
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jackpot ult is NOT allat

graceful solstice
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fr

polar zealot
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unless you have a 777

noble garnet
polar zealot
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then its intimidating

noble garnet
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i have both perfection and jackpot

graceful solstice
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Its good im not saying its not, it has a good kit but can easily be countered

noble garnet
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jackpots awk is better

polar zealot
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even if it is

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its luck based which is the entire balance to it

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perfect cell stays consistent with its shenanigans

vivid pike
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if it wasnt were done for

noble garnet
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id take a 50% chance to overturn the entire game and a consistent deny 3 and a guaranteed 3

graceful solstice
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dribble full court for that perfect play move

graceful solstice
noble garnet
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teammates can mark yk

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jackpot steal exists

graceful solstice
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yea but you need to hope yo teammates are good,

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which most aint

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with also the fact people just shooting it far

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just to get it again

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can still block you

noble garnet
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you dont need your teammates to be good when in jackpot

graceful solstice
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you could just fail it entirely

polar zealot
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an evolved cell can just render jackpot steal null with a few dribbles

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lol

graceful solstice
polar zealot
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either way

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jackpots awakening even if it is better

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doesnt take away from cell being absolutely braindead

graceful solstice
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plus if im right evo lasts 40 seconds

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idk how long jackpot does

noble garnet
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ignoring the fact you are downplaying jackpots awk jackpot gets one guaranteed free ball and another free ball or a free three

noble garnet
polar zealot
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it doesnt

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lol

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timer still runs even when awk goes

noble garnet
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you have no speed

graceful solstice
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might as well stick to dunks

noble garnet
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what is this entire paragraph saying

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whats your point

graceful solstice
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cell overall is gonna smack jackpot down quicker than jackpot could do to a cell main

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you can try

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a team of 4 cells

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all spamming blink

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you arent doing anything

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they will stall time

noble garnet
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jackpots awk gets either 2 free balls or a free ball and a guaranteed 3 excluding jackpot

noble garnet
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i was talking about the awk

graceful solstice
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Just stating facts

noble garnet
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utterly irrelevant

graceful solstice
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im talking about the awk gng

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lucky shot isnt doing anything

polar zealot
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yeah cell awk may not be as good as jackpot but cell overall trumps the hell out of jackpot which is why cells awakening has no business being that good

graceful solstice
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cell stops it with ease

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pull maybe does something

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idk about that

polar zealot
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blink technically is a more accessible pull

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either way lucky shot can still be blinked

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afaik

graceful solstice
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jackpot wont matter because sure you have steals that are guaranteed, but whats that gonna do when you cant make a shot

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when a team of cells just smack every shot down

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or one uses awk?

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That timer will go down

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and it will be useless

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its good

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cell just counters hard

noble garnet
graceful solstice
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too hard

polar zealot
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in general

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it can be blinked easily

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and with the amount of cell mains as of now

graceful solstice
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lets call this shot blocking sim

noble garnet
polar zealot
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i dont have to be the only one blinking lol

graceful solstice
polar zealot
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youre a jackpot in awakening

noble garnet
polar zealot
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no competent player is gonna let you go free

graceful solstice
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makes it useless

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people around etc

noble garnet
graceful solstice
noble garnet
graceful solstice
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I saw a cell launch himself across the map earlier

graceful solstice
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remember

noble garnet
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thats just a lie

graceful solstice
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everyone has this style

noble garnet
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then pass lol

polar zealot
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cell can

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definitely launch itself across the map

graceful solstice
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Yea see

vivid pike
polar zealot
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with the amount of tools it has

noble garnet
polar zealot
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matter of facr

graceful solstice
polar zealot
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blink can be used as a dribble

graceful solstice
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ive seen someone use blink to smack a ball away just for another one to use it to take it to the goal

polar zealot
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either way

graceful solstice
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at least before nerf

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idk now

polar zealot
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theres really no point in arguing about this since

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the main issue is that cell is overtuned esp in awakening

vivid pike
graceful solstice
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fr

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puts the fear of god into me

vivid pike
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cause you can beat cell users who doesnt know how to use it

graceful solstice
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give them a hour

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cooked

vivid pike
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literally

polar zealot
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cell shouldnt be a thing in general but

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money makes people do stupid things

graceful solstice
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I like the concept, I really do

polar zealot
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and that stupid thing

graceful solstice
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Just too op

polar zealot
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is cell

vivid pike
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and i forgot this game isnt based on the anime

polar zealot
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it was

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not anymore

graceful solstice
vivid pike
graceful solstice
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I say give it a wekk

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week

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everyone got it

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those who didnt

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will have it

polar zealot
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definitely

graceful solstice
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and then it will be a cell war

polar zealot
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and now lets watch as every other style fades into obscurity

graceful solstice
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ww3 in basketball zero update when

vivid pike
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afk chamber finna be ready for them

graceful solstice
polar zealot
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i know they arent gonna nerf cell too much while its available because

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if they do give it a proper nerf

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less people are gonna try to pull for cell

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which is

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potentially less money

graceful solstice
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I forgot people spend money to get it

polar zealot
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im p sure itll get nerfed but not anytime soon

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no you dont have to spend money

vivid pike
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it might

graceful solstice
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lucky spins

polar zealot
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youre already giving the devs money

graceful solstice
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yea

polar zealot
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by being in afk rewards

high musk
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How do i report a bug

polar zealot
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its passive income to them

graceful solstice
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but lucky spins can give them more money as well

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and I know alot of people spend the big bucks for a style

graceful solstice
polar zealot
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and they just added two more styles

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style slots

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i mean

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so uh

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more money

graceful solstice
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im not complaining since i got them all but

polar zealot
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and obviously theyre not gonna add a free style slot because greed is a thing

graceful solstice
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i wish they was more cheaper

polar zealot
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i just use alt accounts as style slots

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im not paying 300 robux for a slot dude

noble garnet
polar zealot
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yeah

graceful solstice
noble garnet
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no practically everyone was lucky this update both the zone and style were far far too easy to get

graceful solstice
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I promise you once its gone, some people are gonna be mad they didnt get it

polar zealot
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im pretty sure

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if we calculate the odds

graceful solstice
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it was too easy

polar zealot
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perfection is easier to get compared to a specific mythic

graceful solstice
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plus the extra 10 percent chance thingy

noble garnet
polar zealot
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yeah

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which

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the devs obv failed to make perfect cell rare

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because everyone and their bloodline has it

graceful solstice
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speaking of bloodline im hyped for the new final destination movie ngl

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crazy transition but ye

mint blade
graceful solstice
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the whole series is

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Hyped

mint blade
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the first one gave me a fear of planes

graceful solstice
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that one movie gave me fear of rollar coasters

twilit furnace
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You can copy perfection in ukt

graceful solstice
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we know

tender meadow
twilit furnace
wide gull
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What a big thing

woven ridge
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Skibidi

waxen coral
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"You are either perfect or you're not me"

woven ridge
waxen coral
woven ridge
kindred rivet
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Because perfection is to perfect for him

mint blade
mint blade
tall stream
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the reason copycat canā€™t copy perfection is because that would remove its exclusivity

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whatā€™s the point of making it exclusive if you can js get a mythic and copy the people who got it

candid pulsar
candid pulsar
mint blade
tall stream
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i mean in a way kinda

candid pulsar
tall stream
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ya they have the same style to score points but theyā€™re all different from each other

candid pulsar
tall stream
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ya theyā€™re all cinematic 2 pointers

candid pulsar
tall stream
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wat is ur point im so confused

candid pulsar
hollow turtle
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make it copy

woven ridge
hollow turtle
meager schooner
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Kise can copy things with a 99% accuracy

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Not 100

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Thereā€™s ur answer

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Unless heā€™s like

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In the zone of something

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Normally itā€™s 99%

scarlet basin
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you're thinking of Reo

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He never had a limitation

meager schooner
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No it was stated in the anime that Kise can copy abilities with a 99% accuracy but when it comes to copying to people more advanced than him it causes great strain on his body

scarlet basin
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the only limitation was that he can't copy plays that are insanly stronger then himself, worked around with p copy

meager schooner
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Which is why he gets tired easily if he copies Aomine with Akashi and copying all 4 makes it the strain higher

scarlet basin
meager schooner
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In the movie tho

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Heā€™s able to copy everything

scarlet basin
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I'm looking through a wiki for kise (not exactly the most trustworthy) and can't see a limitation for him

scarlet basin
meager schooner
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Kise adds his twists to things because again stated a copy is just a copy meaning that although he can copy moves with a high accuracy they wonā€™t be perfect

true moat
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ngl they should make it so that cell has variants (imperfect, semi-perfect, perfect) and you can only copy the first 2

meager schooner
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Haizaki just steals skills to make them his own mimicking others abilities and changing them to make said ability his

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Kise Copies abilities and adds a twist to them

hexed geyser
verbal bolt
meager schooner
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Unless he copies like Emperor eyes but it causes great strain to his body

scarlet basin
meager schooner
verbal bolt
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He can (momentarily) copy Aomines speed and then leap to perform a crazy fast Murasakibara block.

meager schooner
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Yet still losing because heā€™s just not Aomine

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He can leap like Murasakibara but just isnā€™t Murasakibara

scarlet basin
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He lost because Aomine performed better. He just played better than his past self, since Kise could really only copy past aomine

meager schooner
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And the combination of all 4 Midorima Aomine Mura and Akashi just messes up his body

meager schooner
verbal bolt
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Because those are directly stat related

meager schooner
scarlet basin
meager schooner
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Copy is also stat related

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Which is why he canā€™t copy Kuroko

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Kurokos style of play is specifically for Kuroko

verbal bolt
scarlet basin
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He can't copy Kuroko because he has too much aura to use misdirection

meager schooner
scarlet basin
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I think Kise is either "can't copy that at all" or "I've just did a 1-to-1 recreation"

meager schooner
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Even Kurokos copy couldnā€™t do the things Kuroko does

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Kuroko was able to make his abilities greater and his copy just new the basics of his abilities

verbal bolt
meager schooner
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Complete stat related

scarlet basin
meager schooner
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Well movie

scarlet basin
meager schooner
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He just doesnā€™t have the traits that Kuroko has

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If Kise wanted to become perfect cell his body would honestly implode

verbal bolt
scarlet basin
scarlet basin
verbal bolt
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Alright Iā€™m going to bed

meager schooner
scarlet basin
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I'm rewatching KnB rn anyways, I just finished the first game againt Aomine (the GOAT)

meager schooner
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I love Aomine

scarlet basin
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fr

meager schooner
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My goat

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Please rework my goat

scarlet basin
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yessir

meager schooner
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He deserved

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It

scarlet basin
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for so long

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outclassed after 1 week

scarlet basin
meager schooner
scarlet basin
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Kise with the megamind strats

meager schooner
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Because by these statements in the anime this means If Kises stats doesnā€™t match up with someone heā€™s going against of if he doesnā€™t have said character trait he js canā€™t copy

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So if we were to put cell in knb

Cell would be like the perfect player having high stats in everything

Meaning Kise wouldnā€™t be able to do what Cell does simply because he doesnā€™t have the body to do it

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He donā€™t got the Cell Build

scarlet basin
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Kise just gotta get more perfect

meager schooner
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Yeah

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Cause like he could copy Murasakibara dunk

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But he would never be able to perfectly copy Murasakibaras Defensive attributes

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So the things Mura typically does Kise canā€™t do

scarlet basin
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Theoretically, kise could be able to mimic it my using pridictions + superhuman power, similar with muki

meager schooner
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Yeah

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Cause like Murasakibara has crazy defense

scarlet basin
#

different actions for the same outcome

meager schooner
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Kise wouldnā€™t be able to copy that but he can copy the moves that mura may do tho the accuracy may be low because he doesnā€™t have murasakibaras attributes

meager schooner
#

Kise is cool but idk thereā€™s some ppl he canā€™t really copy

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Nash is even one of them

scarlet basin
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Nash is Akashi+

meager schooner
#

Yeah and Iā€™m surprised Kise just didnā€™t use Belial eye but itā€™s probably cause Nash was to advanced for him

scarlet basin
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I don't think Silver wes as good as he was shown in last game honestly

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I don't remember the full movie, but wasn't the reveal that Nash was the reason Jabbawock had such good success?

scarlet basin
meager schooner
woven ridge
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Holy yap

vivid pike
meager schooner
scarlet basin
meager schooner
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So idk why he couldnā€™t

woven ridge
#

Summary of the entire series holy

scarlet basin
meager schooner
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Get angry ig

scarlet basin
meager schooner
woven ridge
woven ridge
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Hheheheh

meager schooner
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Kise and Aomine even said this was the first time they saw it

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Youā€™ll see it when it comes up

scarlet basin
pulsar sail
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This should honestly be allowed, most of the servers im in are 75% perfection

woven ridge
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I was just stating something u said

scarlet basin
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'hoe' was not nessesary

tepid gyro
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this guys pretty mean, make sure copycat NEVER does this just because of him tbh

woven ridge
scarlet basin
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what is bro on about

woven ridge
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I mean

meager schooner
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Idk

woven ridge
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Idk gng

meager schooner
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Itā€™s a typo

scarlet basin
woven ridge
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Im high rn

meager schooner
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I know u meant to say How

woven ridge
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Yall play AR?

scarlet basin
#

Ight time to play some basketball cuz I'm a pro athleate (I haven't touch grass in a year)

lyric hamlet
mighty plume
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Valid suggestion, shouldn't be a reason why we can't copy Perfection

steep spade
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perfection should get a rework icl that's a solution for EVERYTHING we have against it

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straight up ruined the game with how many there are

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give a bad player perfection and he's easily quarrelling with the best

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give a good player perfection and no one can lay a hand on him

true moat
#

why not just make it so you can only get perfection after a certain level, it would give levels a feature apart from pro servers

ripe dune
steep spade
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Levels aren't really a factor

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styles are however

ripe dune
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star hard counters perfection btw

steep spade
#

nah not rlly

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blink IS still the problem here

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and the dribble shoots from half court

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idek bro šŸ˜­

ripe dune
ripe dune
polar zealot
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blink

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isnt the biggest problem about perfection believe it or not

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just equip star or giant

ripe dune
polar zealot
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or have a competent teammate on standby

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evolution imo

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i do not like the dribble distance it has

ripe dune
#

what

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is perfection base kit better than jpā€™s?

polar zealot
#

uh

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id say yeah

ripe dune
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blasphemy

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yeah i agree

polar zealot
#

šŸ˜­

ripe dune
#

but evolution being the biggest problem is

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what

polar zealot
#

i had to think about it for a second

ripe dune
#

itā€™s only like

polar zealot
#

thats just me

ripe dune
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2 plays at max

polar zealot
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i know

ripe dune
#

what

polar zealot
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heres the thing

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i am petty towards perfection mains

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id rather not let them use their awakening to its full extent

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but dont get me wrong that doesnt really change the fact that blink is a rancid move

warm jacinth
#

you cannot copy perfection

vivid pike
polar zealot
warm jacinth
polar zealot
#

you cant copy luck but copycat is out here copying jackpot

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what is your point dawg

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that statement already falls apart since copycat can literally take perfections awakening

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you already can copy perfection homie just not all of it

steep spade
#

kise IS the perfect copy merchant though

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he literally copies everything to it's maximum extent

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It's perfection copying perfection it SHOULD be a thing

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regardless just rework perfectionšŸ˜­

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YOU SHOULDN'T BE ABLE TO USE BLINK ON FREE BALLS

hollow turtle
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he can copy a eye

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he should copy perfection too

polar zealot
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that he can copy things

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not just that

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but also return it with better efficiency

steep spade
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2 perfections on one team guarantee a win if they're competent

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that's how broken the style is that's not the case with any other style

polar zealot
#

either way

steep spade
#

every style but copycat has a definite counter

polar zealot
#

copycat has a very

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glaring weakness

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and that is you can get poked out of burst

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and your effectiveness is based on the stuff you copy

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which is uh

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very telling considering everyone has perfection now

steep spade
#

yeah it needs a good player to reach it's full potential

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perfection has no potential

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legitimatelyšŸ˜­

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it's just defense and offense mashed into one

polar zealot
#

perfection is the ultimate crayon eater style

steep spade
#

couldn't put it better myself

polar zealot
#

it literally

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spoonfeeds you all of the games fundamentals

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you wanna defend? blink

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you wanna go offense AND score?

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perfect dribble into step

steep spade
#

and it spoonfeeds you terrible jokes too

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"you're just not as perfect as I am" "look at how perfect my form is it's PERFECT"

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that's the worst part icl

scarlet basin
#

the style could honestly shoot right after getting the ball in his own side bc of how far they travel

steep spade
#

it stuns too

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atp why give the impression that ace is the best style for one on ones

polar zealot
#

i personally think the three point option

steep spade
#

perfection can do everything it's perfect

polar zealot
#

is stupid

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it already has an auto layup

scarlet basin
#

imo, if they nerf how far the move travels and blink, it'd be great but not OP. Maybe shorten the shot range too

polar zealot
#

there is NO NEED for the three point option

steep spade
#

that and

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blink was nerfed and it's still stupid

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the range is a problem

polar zealot
#

heres the thing

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blink needs a start up

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before it smacks the ball away

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so that people are incentivized to time it

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because if they time it right

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congrats you have the ball

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if you dont

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the ball is still mid air

steep spade
#

icl blink makes the game feels less like basketball

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and more like a daydream

polar zealot
#

its uh

scarlet basin
#

How to fix Perfection:
Layup? removed
Blink? Requires skill
Dribble moves? Shorter
3-pointer? Doesn't teleport to the goddamn half court

steep spade
#

because it's just so stupid conceptually

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like what's the idea behind it

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you wanted to give cell a cool move that's reminiscent of DBZ?

scarlet basin
#

Honestly just rework it to make it more balanced atp

steep spade
#

EXACTLY

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rework it

polar zealot
#

i dont think a rework is necessary since thatd cause a lot of outrage

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but

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it definitely needs an entire balance patch

steep spade
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and the cutscenes are a chore to go through icl

polar zealot
#

lol

steep spade
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make them faster or something

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I'm tired of cell dribbling the ball around

scarlet basin
#

Just make it as good as a Mythic with a cool gimmick like switching between offence and defence

polar zealot
#

personally

steep spade
#

It's gimmick is that it's UNBEARABLE

polar zealot
#

a rework is unnecessary since i dont have an issue beating perfections but

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hot damn is it tedious

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i personally think it just needs an overall range decrease

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esp dribble and blink

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as for blink

steep spade
#

thing is a full cell team is uncounterable

polar zealot
#

that thing def needs a rework if anything

scarlet basin
steep spade
#

that's what I'm saying

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nerf the dribble and rework blink so that cell is actually interesting

scarlet basin
steep spade
#

delete perfection in it's entirety

#

!

scarlet basin
steep spade
#

Let everyone who spinned for it burn I could care less šŸ˜­

steep spade
#

legitimately

polar zealot
#

it would be better if blink assisted you in blocking

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rather than

steep spade
#

it's a blink variant

polar zealot
#

blocking for you

scarlet basin
steep spade
#

honestly what's the best style like legitimately

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giant? Hell no

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jackpot? nah

scarlet basin
#

blink should just require the same amount of reaction time as Leap

steep spade
#

copycat? difficult to actually use efficiently

polar zealot
#

leap

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takes a bit of reading to use

steep spade
polar zealot
#

since the start up is long

scarlet basin
polar zealot
#

snatch block requires spacing and timing

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blink

steep spade
#

I'm not saying they should butcher perfection

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But make it fun and challenging

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Like EVERY OTHER STYLE

polar zealot
#

you could be an AMPUTEE in every limb and still block shots perfectly

scarlet basin
#

yo can I link a suggestion about perfection in here? just wanna see what you guys think

polar zealot
#

uh go ahead

scarlet basin
#

#1368375303248019608

polar zealot
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its not too bad but 4 moves in base seems unnecessary

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it having offense and defense isnt a bad thing but

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both cant be as good as each other

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or have the same amount of tools as each other

scarlet basin
#

4 moves??

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ohh 4 movesets

steep spade
#

I like it

scarlet basin
#

I mean, if you think about it, the cd would diable the other move so It's not like once you get the ball you have a full moveset if you used a defensive move beforehand

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thx

steep spade
#

But it does have

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A LOT of moves

polar zealot
#

yeah

steep spade
#

like that's confusing at this point

polar zealot
#

even if the cooldown is universal

steep spade
#

But it is a cool gimmick that'd make up for it's rarity

scarlet basin
#

Tried to make it easy to understand

polar zealot
#

i dont think any style should have that amount of tools

scarlet basin
#

yeah, Ig so

steep spade
#

it's balanced and does have a reason to be a limited

#

but

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it DOES have a lot of moves šŸ˜­

scarlet basin
#

maybe just 1 pure offense and 1 pure defense and 1 move for both sides to be a mix of both?

scarlet basin
polar zealot
#

i think only one move should have

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a variant

steep spade
#

nah I think perfection should stay the way it is and just be nerfed to equate it out

swift hamlet
#

No he's right tho cuz devs said copycat wouldn't be like reo from the blue lock game, and instead it's literally the same thing because reo can't copy world class styles and copy cat can't copy perfection, and im not hating cuz I love perfectionšŸ˜­šŸ’€

steep spade
#

I can't wait for the perfection d riders defending it like their lives depend on it šŸ˜­

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anyone that mains perfection is overly reliant on it

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atp

swift hamlet
#

šŸ˜­

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Lol

steep spade
#

It's deadass boring

swift hamlet
#

I actually have fun win it

steep spade
#

it takes no skill though

#

so it isn't fun

#

or challenging to use

scarlet basin
#

yeah

polar zealot
#

heres the thing

scarlet basin
#

I was gonna go for it till I saw how boring it was

polar zealot
#

heres my opinion

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i think perfect handles and fly away should be one move

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instead of fadeaway being the follow up for perfect handles

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it should be flyaway

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but the drawback is you have to anklebreak someone for the followup

scarlet basin
#

I was gonna gonna do that, but I felt like that it would've been too gimmicky for 1 move

polar zealot
#

thats true

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i guess flyaway should be toned down

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so that they can be one move

scarlet basin
#

feel like it balances it out if it was 2 moves too

#

yeah maybe

polar zealot
#

since two auto score moves can be a bit excessive

scarlet basin
#

yeah

steep spade
#

what if perfection gets more benefits the longer the game goes on? like as a legitimate rework that could be it's gimmick

scarlet basin
#

the scoring move after perfect handles is not supposed to be op btw, just an option if you can shoot, otherwise is kinda easy to block

steep spade
#

The more you do

#

the more you get the ball the more you shoot steal and block

#

your moves get better

scarlet basin
steep spade
#

and you get SLIGHTLY faster with every buff

scarlet basin
#

and copy could copy the imperfect moves

scarlet basin
polar zealot
#

its okay for perfection to be very strong as long as it takes a decent bit of execution to use

steep spade
#

so the shoot move could be kinda slow at the start and not even an auto score then it gets to that point eventually

#

where it's similar to it's current variant

#

just more balanced in general

#

so it rewards skill

#

HEAVILY

polar zealot
#

i wouldnt have an issue with

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perfection being busted

scarlet basin
#

I was thinking at certain points in the game (7:00, 5:00, 3:00) a small animation of you powering up would play, changing your moves slightly

polar zealot
#

if it actually took some skill to use

#

but no

#

its busted AND takes no skill to use

steep spade
#

chrollo can't make a style that's both for the love of his life

steep spade
polar zealot
#

the thing is

steep spade
#

Id unironically love playing perfection if it had a passive like this with a progressive moveset

polar zealot
#

the game is very fast paced so that gimmick can be a bit odd to deal w

steep spade
#

it's not like it's time dependant

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It's effort dependent

#

so if the perfection makes like 2 blocks they get a single buff

#

a single steal also gives you a buff

#

three passes gives you a buff asw

#

it's progressive

#

And it's small buffs each time

#

that way it's also fast paced

#

and with competent teammates it could be insane

rapid narwhal
#

you can copy it, you need to awaken first then use 100% copy

#

i have the video when i try to copy perfection using copycat awaken

rich yoke
#

rework blink

golden knot
#

why would they even add a cell moves into the game

#

it was bound to be broken from the beginning

#

thereā€™s gonna be atleast 3 perfections in every sever

mighty plume
#

In a way, it's good Copycat can't copy Perfection. There's always at least 3 Perfection players in one game, so basically adding a 4th is too much ( even if its just 1 move ), especially if there's already one on ur team

#

But that more speaks to how busted Perfection is

elder summit
#

He is joking

plain narwhal
#

i don't think he can teleport

mighty plume
plain narwhal
#

cuz theyre based off those chars

mighty plume
plain narwhal
#

i also am fully against the addition of perfect cell, its the start of downfall for this game

#

i havent played a normal game since him

plain narwhal
#

metaphors

mighty plume
plain narwhal
#

cuz we have 3rd person ingame so phantom has to compensate

#

and completely dissapear

mighty plume
#

It's just mad annoying when playing a game with only a few players and only one other player isn't using Perfection, restricting copy to one moveset

plain narwhal
#

i agree

mighty plume
#

Bro šŸ˜­ I was forced to copy the same Playmaker 3 times in a row šŸ˜­

polar zealot
#

also

#

you cant copy luck either but jackpots moves are free for copycat to take

plain narwhal
plain narwhal
polar zealot
#

he does visually teleport in game

ripe dune
#

lmao

plain narwhal
#

ping also visually teleports you so

#

what's your point

polar zealot
#

except ping isnt

#

a game feature

#

lol

plain narwhal
#

it's something that could happen

ripe dune
plain narwhal
#

well whatever

polar zealot
#

it baffles me lowkey

plain narwhal
#

i just brought up a thing from the anime

#

I'm not even in favor of cell

#

i think he's the downfall of this game

ripe dune
#

downfall of the game was jackpot

plain narwhal
#

nah

polar zealot
#

im pretty sure kise cant jump as high as kagami does (feel free to correct me) but sky leap is very available to him

ripe dune
#

copycat put the nail in the coffin

plain narwhal
#

hell nah

ripe dune
#

we dance on the grave with perfection

#

just get into better lobbies man

plain narwhal
#

it's just way way more energy consuming

plain narwhal
#

blink was the nail

#

actual teleportation

polar zealot
#

unless its directly shown or stated in the show i cannot believe that

plain narwhal
#

goaltending was the nail

polar zealot
#

im pretty sure the general issue is

#

that styles get easier and easier to use

#

while getting more and more broken

ripe dune
#

i donā€™t understand why people like copycat

polar zealot
#

im ngl

#

i did not rock with the jackpot update

#

the moveset just felt so extra and bloated

#

but compared to this update

#

jackpot is like a blessing

ripe dune
polar zealot
#

do not open their eges

#

eyes

ripe dune
#

the what now

#

you speak like a comp player

#

actually isnā€™t goaltending with blink pretty impossible

#

it has a ā€œball is too close to the hoopā€ effect right

polar zealot
#

yeah

ripe dune
#

yeap

plain narwhal
plain narwhal
polar zealot
#

either way

#

i just wanna

#

see more updates like chuck and lock

#

where the styles arent stupidly strong for once

plain narwhal
ripe dune
polar zealot
#

i guess

forest vale
#

Chuck is genuinely the worst style added to the game imo

polar zealot
#

the main drawback for copycat is that uh

plain narwhal
ripe dune
plain narwhal
ripe dune
polar zealot
#

both flow step and burst require a target

#

and you can gwt poked out of burst

plain narwhal
polar zealot
#

i forgor

#

never used copycat

ripe dune
#

lmao

#

erm what

#

never defend copycat ever again

polar zealot
#

im not

ripe dune
#

Good.

plain narwhal
ripe dune
polar zealot
#

i never really had an issue with copycats but they are pretty annoying

plain narwhal
ripe dune
plain narwhal
#

but one is broken and one isn't

ripe dune
polar zealot
#

maybe ive just gotten used to copycats

plain narwhal
#

ight bro

#

whatever

polar zealot
#

i still think burst is a bit uh

#

unnecessary

#

no clue why thats there

plain narwhal
#

i could go without it

ripe dune
plain narwhal
#

but it's counterable

ripe dune
#

perfection isnā€™t too broken

plain narwhal
#

BLINK

ripe dune
#

i donā€™t think it even goaltends šŸ˜­

polar zealot
#

i have no idea what goaltend means

plain narwhal
polar zealot
#

im stupid

plain narwhal
ripe dune
#

goaltending implies the ball going on a downward curve and then getting block, which at that point, wouldnā€™t be in the range for a blink activation since itā€™s too close to the hoop

plain narwhal
#

blocking balls late path

ripe dune
#

search it up

plain narwhal
#

okay bruh you get what I'm saying

ripe dune
#

yeah just stop calling it that lmao

#

you just sound like a salty copycat fanboy

#

šŸ¤Ø or are youā€¦?

plain narwhal
#

not like teleporting to the ball at its max height is any better

polar zealot
#

REF DO SOMETHING

plain narwhal
#

idrc