sniper buffs

[mild blaze]

thats not possible

literally

then dont say anything

[agile socket]

he hasnt played sniper hes just arguing to argue

[mild blaze]

you clearly dont have enough experience with sniper to talk

[agile socket]

ppl are so starved for attention

[wispy gulch]

Everyone in the game has played sniper

[mild blaze]

and again, your argument doesnt account for perfect arc at all?

[agile socket]

they lying just to upset ppl in the bbz discord server

[wispy gulch]

it’s literally impossible not to have tried every style

[mild blaze]

its still useless?

[wispy gulch]

it does

it’s so simple

get open

[agile socket]

the original question was how do we score while marked with eprfect arc

[wispy gulch]

[agile socket]

but you say get open

[mild blaze]

bro has gotta be braindead

[wispy gulch]

Get open??

[agile socket]

so how are we going to get open if we are marked

[spiral relic]

obviously sniper looks good in <5 level servers 😭

[mild blaze]

^

[wispy gulch]

Sniper is okay

at best

[mild blaze]

"get close" 🗣

[wispy gulch]

needs balancing but not a buff

[mild blaze]

you're still not open when you're close bub

[wispy gulch]

get close and get the ball

[agile socket]

needs a buff

[mild blaze]

and then what?

[wispy gulch]

dribble

[mild blaze]

use perfect arc and get blocked?

[wispy gulch]

???

[spiral relic]

Balancing it means buffing it

[agile socket]

''how are we going to score with perfect arc while marked'' GET OPEN

LIKE OH MY GOD

[mild blaze]

with the timing on that thing you cannot get a shot in

[wispy gulch]

what is wrong with yall man

[agile socket]

GIVE A GOOD POINT MAN

[mild blaze]

dribble and then what

reply bro

[wispy gulch]

Get open???

[agile socket]

L;OLL

[mild blaze]

dribble and then what???

[agile socket]

YOUR MARKED YOU CANT GET OPEN

[wispy gulch]

Man idk what yall are saying ato

[agile socket]

MAKE IT MAKE SENSE MAN

[wispy gulch]

atp

[mild blaze]

@wispy gulch what after dribble

tell

[wispy gulch]

just saying shi just to rage bait

[wispy gulch]

shoot?

[mild blaze]

bro

reply

[wispy gulch]

like if you’re open shoot?

[mild blaze]

bro?

[wispy gulch]

damn trynna ride on me man hop off

[spiral relic]

he’s ragebaiting at this point

[agile socket]

what do you do if your marked please reply

yeah its ragebait

[wispy gulch]

ehem

get

open

[agile socket]

hes either the spongebob snail gif or ragebaiting

[mild blaze]

yeah hes just looping

[wispy gulch]

[mild blaze]

if you're homeless buy a house 🗣

[agile socket]

https://tenor.com/view/lick-spongebob-meme-spongebob-meme-snail-gif-11908872455029987581

[mild blaze]

if you're poor get a job 🗣

[wispy gulch]

man I don’t wanna even know how yall look when you guys play

[mild blaze]

if you're bad get goodd 🗣

[wispy gulch]

legitimately brain dead

False equivalence

so bad

[mild blaze]

average tiktoker after watching 20 sigma trollface edits trying to ragebait

[wispy gulch]

it’s a roblox game

get good at it

[agile socket]

bro is the most mature youtube shorts user

[mild blaze]

no I have to make him understand

ok wait

[wispy gulch]

said by someone talking like if sniper doesn’t get buffed he’ll die

[agile socket]

were talking abt how good moves are on a weapon not how good we are at the game

[wispy gulch]

[spiral relic]

It’s pointless

[mild blaze]

mods bro, what do you do if a guy is constantly following you

[spiral relic]

his head is gone

[mild blaze]

you literally cannot shake him off with your moveset

[wispy gulch]

The ability is not the wincon

your abilities as a player

are the win con

[mild blaze]

star can dash and get distance

[mild blaze]

again

not the point

the game is based off an anime

[wispy gulch]

??

[agile socket]

ok so why is flash and giant REQUIRED in scrims or your going to lose

[mild blaze]

it should be accurate to it

[wispy gulch]

If you can’t play sniper then you’re trash??

[agile socket]

tell me how skill isgoing to make up for those weps

[mild blaze]

the abilities shown in the game are not accurate to the anime

[wispy gulch]

It ain’t but yall just think you’ll lose

[mild blaze]

what do you have to say about that?

[wispy gulch]

so??

[mild blaze]

it should be the case

thats the point

[wispy gulch]

plus how isn’t it accurate at all

[agile socket]

every team in comp has those 2 weps

[mild blaze]

ok tell me what character sniper is based off of

comeon

[wispy gulch]

Midorima

and then what?

buff his perfect arc to go full court?

[mild blaze]

you're telling me you've watched the show and you think snipers abilities are in line with the anime?

[wispy gulch]

I mean he didn’t need to awaken to do that

Perfect balancing man

[mild blaze]

almost noone can block midorima in the anime except kagami and like one other guy

[agile socket]

btw this dude has yet to make sense with anything hes saying

[wispy gulch]

Perfect balancing

[mild blaze]

and silly never proposed this

[spiral relic]

https://tenor.com/view/midorima-jel-gif-23218104

[wispy gulch]

Have you seen the anime?

[mild blaze]

ah because making stars dunk unblockable is fair and balanced?

[spiral relic]

Sum like this

[agile socket]

this is roblox not the anime

[wispy gulch]

That’s what I’m saying

glad we agree

[mild blaze]

.

[agile socket]

but theres no reason for him to be buns

[wispy gulch]

I personally think star is very unbalanced

[agile socket]

gEt OpEN

[wispy gulch]

basically make a wish giant

[wispy gulch]

Get open

man

yall are like

[mild blaze]

and sniper is make a wish normal player 😂

[wispy gulch]

children

[agile socket]

bro nobody above the age of 10 is at your iq level

[wispy gulch]

Ion think any player can shoot half court and get 100% shots in

[wispy gulch]

I mean if I’m so mad at a roblox game then you’d be right

[mild blaze]

ion think any player would take 20 seconds floating midair to take a shot either

[wispy gulch]

but thankfully you’re the only one crying

[wispy gulch]

Inaccurate but ight

[agile socket]

does beetle juice have discord??

[mild blaze]

its exaggerated but you get my point?

[agile socket]

this might be him

[wispy gulch]

How many seconds is the shot

[mild blaze]

he spends so long taking his shot that you can block him even if he pump fakes

[wispy gulch]

I don’t care cause I don’t shoot when I’m not open

[mild blaze]

you can block him even when hes open

[wispy gulch]

[agile socket]

so if your marked all game how are you going to shoot

[mild blaze]

thats how slow it is

[wispy gulch]

Oh you definitely can’t

Because if you can he ain’t open

get what I mean??

[mild blaze]

and if your definition of "open" is being half a court away from everyone

then sure 😂

[wispy gulch]

About 10 studs I think

[mild blaze]

which is quite a lot?

[wispy gulch]

Yeah??

cause then I’d be open

[mild blaze]

and you think people are going to leave you completely open like that?

good god 😂

[spiral relic]

mods get me in your servers man

[mild blaze]

even when im nott marking someone im atmost 5 studs away

bro thinks he will get 10 studs

[agile socket]

this is 10 studs btw

[wispy gulch]

Yeah I mean not everyone is gonna be the greatest defender of all time?

[wispy gulch]

I wouldn’t know cause I’m shooting only when I’m open

[mild blaze]

yea I mean i guess not everyone plays good enough lobbies to experience how bad sniper is compared to how hes depicted in anime or to any other legendary at all

[wispy gulch]

Uh who cares?

like it’s an okay style

[agile socket]

ok you still havent awnsered the question on how your going to use perfect arc if your makred all game

[wispy gulch]

get open?

[mild blaze]

you wouldnt know because you play in lobbies which leave you completely open, even though they know you are sniper

[agile socket]

IF YOUR MARKED

YOU CANT GET OPEN

HOLY

[spiral relic]

silly

[wispy gulch]

then get him off you

[spiral relic]

you’re getting ragebaited

[agile socket]

WITH WHAT

[mild blaze]

yes, its okay for an epic, not for a legendary

[agile socket]

PERFECT DRIBBLE SHOT

[wispy gulch]

Do you earn money from going on good servers homie?

[mild blaze]

playmaker is better than sniper btw

[agile socket]

https://tenor.com/view/spongebob-patrick-water-bottle-bottle-head-gif-27083229

[wispy gulch]

Wouldn’t say that

[mild blaze]

do you earn money from ragebaiting people homie?

[wispy gulch]

I’m not rage baiting

[mild blaze]

because you're obviously not earning jack rn

[mild blaze]

I would

[agile socket]

ok so we found beetle jucies discord account

[mild blaze]

Im sure many others would agree

[wispy gulch]

you don’t need to be so pretentious to have a convoluted wall of a text to explain how bad you are

[dusty narwhal]

I think sniper just needs the perfect arc to be better

[agile socket]

im a big fan @wispy gulch nice to meet u beetle juice

[mild blaze]

you dont need to be that to explain how bad your lobbies are 😂

its fine bro

we get it

[dusty narwhal]

Make perfect arc shoot faster then maybe it would actually be good

[wispy gulch]

Your lobbies are the same as mine because servers are random whenever you join

[spiral relic]

Yep that’s what we’re talking abt

[wispy gulch]

[mild blaze]

its easy when you play people who are 56 ovr

[agile socket]

what abt quick release its usless after one use

[wispy gulch]

Another bad argument

play the game long enough you’ll get 100 ovr

[mild blaze]

sobbing

[wispy gulch]

[mild blaze]

literally

[dusty narwhal]

quick release is balanced

[mild blaze]

in tears rn

[eager horizon]

wdym

[mild blaze]

so upset that you believe otherwise 💔

[agile socket]

no its worse than a normal shot atleast with a normal shot you can fake

[mild blaze]

im literally heartbroken

[wispy gulch]

Is this ragebait?

[spiral relic]

Quick release is good as it is tbh

[agile socket]

and its 2 pt line only

[mild blaze]

I care so much about your opinion 😂

[mild blaze]

its easy to get open when you play people who are 56 ovr is what I mean

[wispy gulch]

you’re the one who kept asking “reply bro?”

[mild blaze]

and you're the guy who's braindead?

[wispy gulch]

I mean I’ve played people with the same ovr as me

[mild blaze]

are we clear now

[wispy gulch]

then I just went open?

[wispy gulch]

Did you not get the message?

just get open?

[eager horizon]

we need pro servers nobody cares about those

[agile socket]

guys if your ever in trouble just get open

[quiet wind]

how do u buff sniper

[mild blaze]

did you not get the message, I dont play in dogwater servers where you are left open

[quiet wind]

free 3 from half court

[mild blaze]

sometimes I do

[quiet wind]

and a free 2

[mild blaze]

most of the times no

[agile socket]

read the sugestion

[quiet wind]

Brah.

[wispy gulch]

well if you’re the one who’s dogwater

[mild blaze]

bully in charge w

[wispy gulch]

then I’d see why you’ll never be open

[mild blaze]

im sobbing

so sad

that you think im dogwater

[wispy gulch]

are you okay?

do you need a tissue?

[mild blaze]

no im heartbroken 💔

[spiral relic]

Make perfect arc chargeable without the ball, if they don’t receive the ball in time the move goes on cd as a penalty

[mild blaze]

how dare you 🥀

[wispy gulch]

I’m sorry if I was being mean man

I’m just saying just get better

you can do it

I know you can

[agile socket]

https://tenor.com/view/kuroko-no-basket-gif-24962654

[quiet wind]

thats not rlly a buff

[wispy gulch]

I’m always rooting for you to get out of 63 overall

[spiral relic]

It is

[agile socket]

littarly is

[mild blaze]

im always rooting for you to get that surgery that your mom always talked to me about

you need it 🙏

[eager horizon]

whats yall total points

[wispy gulch]

Your mom jokes in the big 2025

are you in primary 4??

[mild blaze]

ragebaiting in the big 25 😂

[agile socket]

im waiting for someone to give me a good reason perfect arc dosent need a buff same with quick release

[wispy gulch]

I promise this isn’t ragebait

cause lowkey

[mild blaze]

I promise it wasnt a your mom joke

[wispy gulch]

the answer to your problems is git gud

[mild blaze]

cause lowkey

[agile socket]

yeah we know beetle juice

[mild blaze]

the answer to your problems is brain surgery

[wispy gulch]

I mean if I was as dumb as you I’ll need it bad

cause just get good

[spiral relic]

“git gud” we left that a while ago unc

[agile socket]

lol see he has no good arugment

[eager horizon]

personally perfect arc does need a buff but quick release just stays the same

[agile socket]

https://tenor.com/view/spongebob-patrick-water-bottle-bottle-head-gif-27083229

[agile socket]

tell me why perfect arc dosent need a buff

[mild blaze]

personally I complimented your pfp but you didnt respond 💔

[wispy gulch]

It’s not a good argument for you

[eager horizon]

wdym i said it does need a buff

[wispy gulch]

but in reality you’re just denying the truth

[mild blaze]

too easily blockable

[wispy gulch]

just get good

[agile socket]

ik i just wanna see if you have a better argument than mods

[spiral relic]

Dawg

[wispy gulch]

man the suckiest players always have to be like angry little children

[south forge]

hi

[wispy gulch]

rage baiter out

[mild blaze]

if we're all so bad then why are you still her etalking

you can leave you know

[eager horizon]

basically that skill is just blockable at any point, but if you have good teammates u can easily do the perfect arc while being wide open

[mild blaze]

noones forcing you to be here

[wispy gulch]

It’s rage bait man

[mild blaze]

stars dunk

[wispy gulch]

still tho

get good

[spiral relic]

I knew it

[agile socket]

but, ifyou have good enimies what are you going to do

[wispy gulch]

you don’t need to be so angry

[quiet wind]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1326151948772311040/1344805027411136594/bleedFLUX0RmqYZYpZ7Rlv.gif

[wispy gulch]

anyway buff sniper

[hard bone]

Completely disagree

[mild blaze]

also, even with good teammates, when there are an equal no. of people in both teams, and they know you're sniper, you will be covered no matter what

[hard bone]

Style is in a fine spot

[wispy gulch]

change snipers perfect arc to have low wind up at close range but a slightly tweaked wind up at farther range

[agile socket]

worst style in the game btw

[mild blaze]

fine spot of being dogwater yes

[spiral relic]

Another rage baiter entered the chat

[eager horizon]

just pass it

[agile socket]

so the abiltiy is useless ok

[mild blaze]

so the style has no value as a legendary, except for making shots when you are completely open (rarely happens)

[eager horizon]

thats why it needs a buff

[wispy gulch]

if you click perfect arc while off the ball the ball should be drawn to you like pull and unblockable

[mild blaze]

omg 🤯

[agile socket]

thats what im saying

[wispy gulch]

if it’s been passed

[mild blaze]

did bro read the post?

thats crazy

[hard bone]

Just want to make sure we’re talking about general gameplay not competition right?

[agile socket]

yeah bro in general gameplay sniper is stil buns

[eager horizon]

im just stating on what he said ik what i read

[mild blaze]

yeah sure its good in general gameplay with 60 ovrs

[hard bone]

It’s good in general gameplay period

[mild blaze]

then why ask if perfect arc needs a buff?

[mild blaze]

no

[spiral relic]

It’s p much useless in comp

[mild blaze]

period

[hard bone]

While I get you personally don’t have any playmaking ability

[eager horizon]

i never ask lol

[hard bone]

Yeah not denying that

[wispy gulch]

and his awakening moves should be two changed, perfect arc as a last ditch unblockable shot that isn’t too good at farther ranges

[hard bone]

At all that’s why I asked

[wispy gulch]

no dribble abilities

[mild blaze]

?

dementic?

[wispy gulch]

he should remain as a character without the ability to dribble good enough

[eager horizon]

u call that asking?

cool

[grizzled junco]

Buff jackpot

[spiral relic]

get out man

[mild blaze]

you dont need a questionmark for it to be a question 💀

[agile socket]

https://tenor.com/view/lick-spongebob-meme-spongebob-meme-snail-gif-11908872455029987581

[mild blaze]

dang you didnt have to make me cry like that 💔

[hard bone]

I dont get why yall feel like it needs to be changed

[agile socket]

cause its not good

[quiet wind]

buff copycat

buff ace

[hard bone]

No that’s not a roast at all, I’m saying the style has NO playmaking ability

[quiet wind]

buff giant

[eager horizon]

you're making my answer like a question even tho its not lol

[wispy gulch]

but genuinely though even with these buffs he should still be a character that is fully utilized when he’s open

[spiral relic]

His only role is to score and he’s not good at doing that

[hard bone]

If you have tm8s that know how to use abilities to get you open it’s def valuable

[wispy gulch]

don’t make the argument of adding these crazy unblockable abilities when it’s a 3 pointer almost all the time

[mild blaze]

I feel like your sentence could use a bit of better phrasing 😭

[agile socket]

so what if your marked

[spiral relic]

Not this again

[agile socket]

what do i do as a sniper player when im marked

[hard bone]

Then the 5v5 becomes a 4v4

[wispy gulch]

get open

[hard bone]

Simple as that

[wispy gulch]

😭😭😭

[mild blaze]

oh ignore me im lowk dumb

[hard bone]

Sure that’s not good

[agile socket]

so its usless ok

[eager horizon]

all good bro

[mild blaze]

5v4*

[hard bone]

But I’m just saying it doesn’t really need a buff

[mild blaze]

it does

with accordance to its rank

[wispy gulch]

It needs a buff in terms of wind up

[agile socket]

yeah we got another beetle juice here

[spiral relic]

If it’s not good it needs a buff

[mild blaze]

it is not a legendary

period

playmaker is better

[wispy gulch]

it was ragebait mate

[eager horizon]

it does

[long vine]

bro fake shoot and then use ur abilty if it doesnt work pass to ur teammates

[hard bone]

I really can’t tell if yall are just butt

[spiral relic]

okay @hard bone don’t you think it deserves to be as good as the other legendaries at least? look at lock flash and star for example

[agile socket]

if you fake shoot. and they fall for it THEN THEY CAN STILL JUMP AGAIN AND BLOCK UR SHOT LOL

[mild blaze]

the shot is so slow it gets blocked even after faking

[hard bone]

Like how in the world are we not scoring with sniper in a public 💀

Could legit use chuck in a public and fry people

[agile socket]

the abilitys arent good thats the whole point of a buff

[mild blaze]

people dont leave a sniper free most of the time once they come to know of it

[long vine]

nope it takes 4 seconds and 3 sec for the abilty

[eager horizon]

because its useless?

[mild blaze]

it does not take 4 seconds for jump to reset???

[eager horizon]

plus, you're making that slow ahh skill perfect arc just for a three

[agile socket]

this is false

[long vine]

try it ur self

[long vine]

bro try it

[mild blaze]

you try it yourself

I 've blocked many snipers after they faked

even tho I fell for the fake (dont bully me guys im new)

[wispy gulch]

it makes perfect arc impossible to use

[hard bone]

Yall don’t understand the value of being able to fall back to the half court line at any time and be open?

[long vine]

did u jump after that?

[hard bone]

It legitimately makes 0 sense how yall see no value in sniper

At all

[mild blaze]

you dont understand the value of being covered 😭

[agile socket]

you dont understand how usless it is if someone marks you

[mild blaze]

if you're a sniper you're covered

[wispy gulch]

Not at all

it’s a 3 pt short

shot

[spiral relic]

do u play comp gng

[mild blaze]

why would you leave someone who can shoot half courts when they're open, open?

[royal magnet]

A style that’s easy to block

[mild blaze]

think about it?

[wispy gulch]

you’re better off playing chuck or clutch tbh

[royal magnet]

A style that is afraid of giant and lock

[hard bone]

Did you read what I typed I legit said it’s horrid in comp

But do you really think they are about to balance every single style to comp

[mild blaze]

did you read what I said? it should be as good as other legendaries which its not

[spiral relic]

Then why are you saying it’s in a good spot

[eager horizon]

would be cool if they reworked it and make one of his ult moves like the same thing takao and midorima like the pass and shoot thingy

[hard bone]

It’s is CLEAR this game is casual

[agile socket]

its buns in pubs too

clutch>> sniper

[mild blaze]

it doesnt matter if its better in public lobbies

it is not worthy of a legendary

[hard bone]

Cause the game is 95% people playing public matches

[eager horizon]

https://tenor.com/view/kuroko-no-basket-shot-basketball-anime-shoot-gif-9105156

[mild blaze]

flash is insanely good

[eager horizon]

basically this

[mild blaze]

star is really good too

[wispy gulch]

it should be a base move tbh, if you pass to him while he’s up there it’s unblockable

[mild blaze]

lock is also good

then theres sniper

😂

[eager horizon]

real

[wispy gulch]

it should be able to be intercepted tho

[mild blaze]

ragebaiter gained a few

[wispy gulch]

like jump between the two players

[mild blaze]

😂

[agile socket]

or if you jump with him its blockable

[hard bone]

It’s like Reyna in valorant, solid/ decent when you play low-mid ranked players. Really bad later on

[wispy gulch]

trust me rage baiting is a hobby

[mild blaze]

reyna is not "really bad" later on

[royal magnet]

Buff sniper!!!!!!!

[wispy gulch]

I find it hilarious and it gives me happiness

[spiral relic]

that’s just not true it’s only good in <5 servers

[hard bone]

If you understand valorant YEA she 100% is

[agile socket]

ok

[mild blaze]

"really bad" are you fr?

what rank are you bro

radiant?

[wispy gulch]

Reyna really isn’t bad as an ascendant

[agile socket]

so my freind is top sniper player NA when we run 3s tell me why the avg 3s IDIOT noob locks him down?? is that a skill issue no, its a weapon issue

[eager horizon]

why are we talking about valorant rn 💔

[agile socket]

even the avg player can lock down atop sniper

[hard bone]

Nah I’m asc but if you look at immo 3+ Reyna is very bad

[mild blaze]

what are you basing this off?

[hard bone]

Legit almost never picked in scrims

[mild blaze]

a youtube video saying reyna is trash or stats?

[hard bone]

Pro and scrim pick rates

Look at pro pick rates

It’s that simple

Legit is never picked ever

Useless to team play

[mild blaze]

link

[wispy gulch]

Okay no more valorant talk

[mild blaze]

its useless if you're bad

[wispy gulch]

can we all agree sniper needs a buff because he’s in legendary

I’m tired of rage baiting

[hard bone]

https://www.vlr.gg/event/agents/2097/valorant-champions-2024 you can look at legit any pick rate from any event

[wispy gulch]

plus if he doesn’t get buffed it would mean a VERY apparent power creep in the game

[hard bone]

She is NEVER PICKED

[wispy gulch]

also just in case no one knows what power creep is

[hard bone]

No Reyna is still good in asc legit my 2nd main

[wispy gulch]

it’s when newly added characters are too busted for the old ones to be feasable

[agile socket]

''reyna sucks''

[vapid tulip]

3 guaranteed shots it does not need a buff 😦

[wispy gulch]

it makes games bloated

[hard bone]

Average gold player

🥀

[wispy gulch]

guaranteed when you don’t get blocked

[mild blaze]

might be wrong but ascendant is not mid ranked

[wispy gulch]

which is very easy to do mind you

[eager horizon]

im lowk thinking what skill will perfect cell style have lol

[wispy gulch]

Star and Giant can block shots even when they get faked

[hard bone]

Def in terms of skill level

[mild blaze]

dawg what?

its the 3rd highest rank

[vapid tulip]

get wide!

[agile socket]

your words btw

[wispy gulch]

you can’t

[agile socket]

what if your marked

[wispy gulch]

from silly’s words

when you get marked you can’t

[vapid tulip]

ankle break them

[wispy gulch]

getting open IS a feasible argument btw but when you can’t you can’t

[agile socket]

when your marked as a sniper you might as well have no wep

[wispy gulch]

You can’t either when you play sniper

[agile socket]

not everyone is a crayon eating todler who gets ankle broke at every dribble

[wispy gulch]

because every player knows sniper doesn’t have a dribble move

[vapid tulip]

why do we need dribble moves to dribble

[wispy gulch]

Because when you reach the third limit you can’t dribble anymore

[vapid tulip]

pass....

[agile socket]

were talking abt perfect arc how are u gonna use it if your marked by a non 5 year old

[wispy gulch]

people who actually play the game won’t steal unless they know the dribble won’t work

[mild blaze]

so... the abilities are useless

[wispy gulch]

then you’re not playing sniper

you’re playing as a guy who passes

[mild blaze]

just play phantom atp

[vapid tulip]

honestly yeah if ur not wide

[agile socket]

so sniper needs a buff ok

[wispy gulch]

if you pit a player WITHOUT any skills and his zone is limitless or street dribbler vs Sniper then the former will win almost everytime

[mild blaze]

guys just a question (unrelated to this thread but) opps on making player models bigger? as of now we look like kids playing in an nba size court

[vapid tulip]

oh yes fr

2 yr olds running on a nba court

[mild blaze]

yeah like the character gotta jump a whole feet to dunk

[vapid tulip]

3 feet

[wispy gulch]

Honestly I disagree, NBA sized courts are honestly really damn big and if you think about it a smaller area makes the game too cramped

[mild blaze]

uh

[wispy gulch]

Bigger player size smaller court relatively

[mild blaze]

yeah...

[wispy gulch]

Again I disagree

[solemn gazelle]

Nah bro said weakest

[wispy gulch]

It’s a roblox game

also a game with a bunch of abilities

[vapid tulip]

we need a .2 inch size buff gng or like a zone that will make you tall when i block shots im always too short and i time ts

[spare peak]

Rework sniper and just make it a mythic already 💔

[mild blaze]

yeah but its offputing

[mild blaze]

I used the anime as reference?

which the game also uses as reference

[vapid tulip]

honestly js make sniper mythic and unblockable thats all it needs no huge buff or sh

[agile socket]

ok so if the court is smaller how many dribbles are we gonna have?

[wispy gulch]

Yes but when you emulate it in a videogame you need to consider how it’d affect the value of abilities

[mild blaze]

same amount?

[vapid tulip]

3

also ts double dribble rule is not ingame icl

[mild blaze]

and how does it affect that

[agile socket]

so your saying we can walk the entire court now with 3 drbbles ok

[vapid tulip]

ppl be using all their dribble while standing

[agile socket]

and now whats the point of dribbling moves?

[mild blaze]

first of all, thats clearly not the case

[vapid tulip]

its a character size not court size

[mild blaze]

even with increasing the player size/ decreasing court size, you wont be covering the court with 3 dribbles

[wispy gulch]

Smaller court size relatively means the abilities will need to be nerfed to keep the game at the same pace and not just using one ability to get to half court

[vapid tulip]

• it can be like a VERY small body size upg

[agile socket]

bigger charecter= more speed same speed= feeling slow feeling slow =boring game/clunky

[vapid tulip]

who said we need more speed

[mild blaze]

and whats wrong with that?

[wispy gulch]

Ace is a a prime example

[mild blaze]

the game is already pretty slow

even ace feels slow to me

[agile socket]

read the whole message

[wispy gulch]

that’s cuz ace is a no skill style

but that’s for a whole different suggestion

[agile socket]

ace is the 2nd worst style in the game behind sniper

[mild blaze]

whats wrong with that?

[vapid tulip]

there is no way ur saying this..

[wispy gulch]

again Ace is a prime example

[spiral relic]

Ace is a no skill but easy to block and counter

[vapid tulip]

clutch and chuck is worse

playmaker

[mild blaze]

of what bro

[vapid tulip]

phantom

[agile socket]

in comp ace is bottom 2 in pubs its top 5

[spiral relic]

Yea ngl you dragging this

[mild blaze]

stop talking in cryptic messages

[wispy gulch]

use dribble move + bigger size means you’ll get to the 3pt line from your side with only one move

unbalanced

[mild blaze]

just say the whole thing

[vapid tulip]

most players play in top 5

[agile socket]

chuck is a joke style cluctch is insane for defense

[mild blaze]

nerf it?

[wispy gulch]

Makes the game slow

[mild blaze]

again, its already slow

[vapid tulip]

clutch takes walking then ur defense is gonee

anyw gtg sleep

[mild blaze]

even stars "dash" feels slow

jackpot can use its abilities in combination to go pretty fast, same with copycat but thats about it imo

[agile socket]

i mean if u hold w when u use it then youll go fast you might wanna try that

[hard bone]

IMO copycat is the best style in the game

[mild blaze]

I do that

[agile socket]

obviously

[mild blaze]

still slow

[vapid tulip]

is that not obvious

[hard bone]

For the singular purpose of it’s unpredictability

[quiet wind]

and its so fun to use

the dash is so good

[hard bone]

Some people disagree which is wild

[mild blaze]

I can legit cover half court with 3 dribbles irl

[hard bone]

Absurdly good

[mild blaze]

I dont see why it cant be the case in game

[vapid tulip]

lmao fr

[agile socket]

and sniper is the worst in the game for its predictability

[vapid tulip]

ingame its like 1/3

[agile socket]

walk backwards when u dribble

[vapid tulip]

honestly the effect and the way u charge up before u use its moves make it predictable

[mild blaze]

yes its faster, not as fast as it could and should be though

[vapid tulip]

why

[mild blaze]

its faster

[agile socket]

i mean even if u dont fake perfect arc is still getting blocked

[agile socket]

cause its faster

[mild blaze]

.

[vapid tulip]

cuz effects bro

star counters perfect arc perfectly with sky leap cause of its effects

[agile socket]

bro

space counters perfect block

i mean

perfect arc

the spacebar

counters it lol

[mild blaze]

whatever idk

[vapid tulip]

i mean if the shot got through it gets countered by sky leap

[mild blaze]

I think the models should be a decent bit bigger atleast

[agile socket]

a todler can be shown the shot getting blocked once and then hes gonna hard counter the top 1 global sniper player with his eyes closed

[mild blaze]

no I dont think its that extreme 😂

[agile socket]

bro yes it is

[mild blaze]

sometimes you actually get the timing wrong with how slow the shot is 😭

[vapid tulip]

my brother a 8 yr old and he wont even know how to time ts he'd jump before the shot

[vapid tulip]

honestly yeah

[mild blaze]

you're like ok I should jump now, but then the shot goes up like 3 seconds after

[vapid tulip]

quickdraw and sniper is a masterpiece

[mild blaze]

no its still bad

I fumble a few times but 9/10 I can block

[flat quest]

how

[vapid tulip]

sniper slow moves go faster

gtg i have a event tommorow morni n

[agile socket]

bro you could train a dog to block perfect arc

[flat quest]

i thought quickdraw doesnt affect moves' release speed lmao

[wet vessel]

Aint quick release just bad if u can block it

[flat quest]

quick release is bad, yes

[wet vessel]

i jst got sniper shld i spin

[agile socket]

the whole point of this suggestion is to make sniper usable if your marked

[flat quest]

spin for chuck

[agile socket]

like every other wep in the game besides phantom

[flat quest]

what about lock

[agile socket]

obv lcok is a defensive weapon

[flat quest]

i mean it's still quite usable if marked, pump fake and all

[agile socket]

what sniper?

bro u cant pumpfake then use quick release and if you pumpfake and then use perfect arc

they get their jump back beforeyour shot ends

[flat quest]

on your soul?

[quiet wind]

yes u can

u can pumpfake and use quick release

[agile socket]

NO YOU CANT LOL

[wet vessel]

yea u cnt

[quiet wind]

ill send u a clip ok?

[flat quest]

if you use quick release then youre braindead

[agile socket]

https://tenor.com/view/spongebob-patrick-water-bottle-bottle-head-gif-27083229

[quiet wind]

https://tenor.com/view/bh187-spongebob-getting-ready-put-your-face-on-me-in-the-morning-gif-25668695

[wet vessel]

ion got any othr move tho 😭 🙏

[agile socket]

well thats why it needs buffed

you shouldnt not be able to use a move cause its bad

it should allways have a use

[wet vessel]

wht if u get double teamed

[flat quest]

perfect arc is the only move sniper has

[flat quest]

i meannnn if you're getting ganged on then it could be good

[flat quest]

just pass 😭

[wet vessel]

quick release????!? (dude i tht it meant u cldnt get blocked a lil bit ago, what is the point of it 😭 )

[flat quest]

i cant read this gng

[agile socket]

it can be blocked

[flat quest]

post form:

[wet vessel]

yea ik, got blocked, thought it was a glitch

[agile socket]

post form is overpowered????

[flat quest]

point is, you do a long ahh animation only for the "quick release" to get blocked

have fun playing sniper 😭

[flat quest]

how

[agile socket]

walk to the hoop: use post dunk

free unblockable 2

that they can do absolutely nothing abt

[wispy gulch]

Post move is literally a free three if you know how to do it

[flat quest]

thats worthless in a decent pub lobby lol

if youre talking about comp then whatever

[agile socket]

ahh yes a unlockable 2 is worthlass

that you can do solo

in any loby

[wispy gulch]

unblockable three is crazy actually

[agile socket]

so usless

[flat quest]

if you deaduzz post hook 3 then you might be a fruitfly

[wispy gulch]

it’s kinda crazy how you do it too

legit just click post then immediately click hook

[flat quest]

buddy, it's circumstancial and there are a variety of other moves that achieve better results and are more versatile lol

[wispy gulch]

as you enter the 2 point area

[flat quest]

unblockable 2? just use posterizer 💀

[agile socket]

dawg postform is amaving

[wispy gulch]

your character moves outwards then hooks a three

[quiet wind]

the hook kinda sucks

just move to the right

the dunk is rlly good tho

[flat quest]

enlighten me bro

[agile socket]

free 2s with low cd?

[wispy gulch]

definitely why people did the tech

3 pthook is so tuff

[quiet wind]

ya i dont use it for the hook tho

i use itfor the dunk

[flat quest]

omd

[wispy gulch]

do it for the hook next time

[flat quest]

ok

[wispy gulch]

so easy to do

and so rewarding

[flat quest]

whats the most amount of times you successfully used post form in a single match

[agile socket]

bro you can successfully use it 100% of the time if you dunk with it lol

[wispy gulch]

everytime

[flat quest]

answer the damn question

[agile socket]

there nothing anyone can do abt it

[wispy gulch]

as a 3 pt unblockable ability

[agile socket]

100% success rate

[wispy gulch]

you legit can’t block it when it reaches the three point threshold

[flat quest]

until another giant grapes it with snatch block 😭

[stuck rock]

Sniper is a pure shooter. It doesn't create space like Ace, Copy, or any other style with a dash, that's why it feels underwhelming

[wispy gulch]

honestly proves why giant is the best style

[flat quest]

how is it the best style then

[agile socket]

ok nobody said anything abt this

if its a pure shooter why is it so bad and predictable at shooting

[stuck rock]

u want our thoughts? there's mine

[wispy gulch]

post hook 3 snatch block, a dribble move that guarantees a three if it’s iso

[agile socket]

ok but in every game i play with sniper after 1 perfect arc its usless

[stuck rock]

Going back, try to pair Sniper with a zone like Speed dribbling. Should create enough space for you to do Perfect Arc

[agile socket]

3 sec windup is not enough

space

[quiet wind]

speed dribble is top 3 zones

[agile socket]

yeah probaly

[stuck rock]

If you use speed dribble the right way, it still should be enough. Unlesss you have 3 idiots guarding you.

[flat quest]

that’s not a big enough case against jackpot or copy

[agile socket]

but why do i need a flow to use my weapon at all

it shouldnt be like that

[flat quest]

this is the solution, finally someone said it 😭

[agile socket]

no its still not enough distance

[stuck rock]

Some styles can create way less spacing, which is why zones like SPeed Dribbling is there ot help you

damn i cant freaking spell

[agile socket]

but still its not enough for the wep to be good

[stuck rock]

Ok, my point is, styles that can create so much space between him and the defenders are OP in this game. Sniper doesn't have that, so it feels "underwhelming" for you. My solution to this is to just pair it with a zone like speed dribbling, because it covers Sniper's lack of ability to create space.

If you don't like that solution, then use something else or just stick with it.

[agile socket]

ok but you gotta understand the wind up on it is so long if someone is following you it wont be enough

its not possible to use perfect arc unless nobody is trying to mark you

[stuck rock]

It's a guaranteed 3 which is sometimes unpredictable

[agile socket]

your better off having no style if ur marked as sniper

[jaunty vortex]

whats wrong with sniper?

[stuck rock]

Sure, against experienced players Sniper is underwhelming, but against less experienced players, perfect arc is sometimes unpredictable.

Unless you are really shooting that perfect arc with 3 defenders on you.

[agile socket]

ok so

[jaunty vortex]

actually if you're smart about it you can do a ton with sniper in ovr 100 lobbies

[agile socket]

your saying i cant use a weapon if the other team is above the age of 5

[stuck rock]

^

[agile socket]

like what

[tawdry spire]

Hi

[stuck rock]

If they recently used there block (or if they jumped) Then use perfect arc

Their block would be on cooldown

[agile socket]

they get their jumb back before perfect arc shoots lol

[stuck rock]

No, lol

[agile socket]

littarly happens without fault

[stuck rock]

Atp, youre just being adement

[jaunty vortex]

pump faking as sniper gurantees atleast 1 or 2 defenders on you for an easy pass to tms and if they get too used to passing u perfect arc them, perfect arc instantly to replace a regul;ar shot can throw off block timing, u can pump fake and instantly perfect arc to time it perfectly because the slow release on perfect arc means u can cheese someones block just barely and quick release can be made into a 3 if u dribble backwards into the 3 point line and use it and dribbling then quick releasing is almost a guranteed 2

[agile socket]

this is just true

[whole dock]

Do u use sniper ?

[jaunty vortex]

you essentially control the flow of the game with the ball

through the threat of perfect arc

[stuck rock]

i aint reading allat gng

[hard bone]

That’s what I was arguing

[stuck rock]

but i get what youre saying

[agile socket]

so your telling me youve never used sniper before ok

[hard bone]

The threat of it going back to the half court line is what makes it good

[stuck rock]

oh btw

playermaker>sniper

[flat quest]

syfbau

[jaunty vortex]

but i have?

[flat quest]

bro wrote the most eloquent explanation and you still yap

[agile socket]

one guy locks down a sniper

[jaunty vortex]

i literally just said a way to make quick release a 3?

[agile socket]

it isnt even a good one

[jaunty vortex]

no?

[agile socket]

everyone knows this

[stuck rock]

WOW

[agile socket]

and its still easy to block

[flat quest]

💀

[stuck rock]

this guy

[jaunty vortex]

how tf are u getting locked down by one guy

[stuck rock]

is delusional and being adament

[jaunty vortex]

dribble three times and press perffect arc cus hell try to steal or intercept a pass

[agile socket]

how am i gonna use sniper when im marked

[jaunty vortex]

then from then on hes o nthe alert and ucan mess with them

[flat quest]

speed dribble

[jaunty vortex]

by f*cking with them mate

[agile socket]

whats stoping him from jumping

[jaunty vortex]

steal anim

[agile socket]

bypass?

[jaunty vortex]

also most people jump and steal after u use 3 dribbles

[agile socket]

that dosent stop jumping for 3 secounds bro

[stuck rock]

1. Use a space creating zone like Speed dribbling
2. Use perfect arc when the defender's block is on cooldown

[whole dock]

Nah u syfbau who u feeling like

[jaunty vortex]

something tells me you do the same thing with sniper everytime then get pissed when people adapt

[agile socket]

nope

[jaunty vortex]

also u can just pass? sniper is a cm style

[stuck rock]

These two are literally so helpful, you have no idea

[agile socket]

omg guys!! passing buffs a style guys omg!!

passing makes my perfect arc usable now

[whole dock]

Why are we even arguing about sniper

[jaunty vortex]

when your sniper you gurantee defenders on you

[flat quest]

my fault original gangster😔

[jaunty vortex]

also when ur in a 1v1 just pump fake him?

[whole dock]

It’s finna be buffed anyways

[agile socket]

cause stupid ppl and theyre madeup solutions to how perfect arc is a good move

[jaunty vortex]

like ur argument is that you can be blocked?

[agile socket]

my argument is that theres nothing you can do with it

[whole dock]

Yall need to relax holy

[agile socket]

you can train a dog to block perfect arc

[whole dock]

It’s not that serious

[jaunty vortex]

theres plenty as long as you dont play solo thinking your prime lebron lmao

[agile socket]

i littarly only play 3s and comp

[jaunty vortex]

thats even better? what

pump fake the 1 guy on u and then perfect arc

[agile socket]

bro

if he falls forit

[stuck rock]

i dont wanna talk no more cuz one, dudes being adement despite being offered good solutions, and two, hes just insulting people

[agile socket]

he gets his jump back before perfect arc goes off

[stuck rock]

goodluck with sniper ig, lmao

[agile socket]

cause theyre not actual solutions

[jaunty vortex]

that means ur reaction time is abd u have to perfect arc while their still i nthe air

or u just have bad ping

bad

[agile socket]

cause theyre gonna fall for a fake if i dont leave the floor ok

[jaunty vortex]

yes? thats literally the point of pumpfakes

people fall for it n regular shots too

[agile socket]

i think our lobbies have a high skill gap

[jaunty vortex]

u said they get their jump back which implies that peopel do fall for ur pump fakes

[stuck rock]

so why are u using sniper in a high skill server?

[jaunty vortex]

dont even

[agile socket]

i cant

thats the problem

[stuck rock]

then roll for another playstyle, lmfao

[agile socket]

its not possible

[jaunty vortex]

you literally can theres snipers in 3v3s all the time

[stuck rock]

u dont want our solutions? then roll for another style

[agile socket]

they dont work

end of story

bad solutions arent solutions

ever realise that

[jaunty vortex]

your argument that them not working is just saying that ur opponent is better than you dawg

[stuck rock]

im about to roll my jackpot slot just to prove you wrong

[jaunty vortex]

your telling me youve never faked out soemoen with a pump fake

not once

not ever

not again

[agile socket]

you just make no sense

[jaunty vortex]

how

[agile socket]

how does him being better than me have anything to do with perfect arc being a bad move

i dont get it

no, this is ragebait isee

yeah your ragebaiting i understandit

[jaunty vortex]

im giving strategies and your rebuttal is that it wont work because opponents have a 0 percetn chance of falling for them when they do?

[agile socket]

gosh i hate ragebaiters

[jaunty vortex]

no im saying ur literally telling me u can do it lol?

perfect arc is perfect

as it is

lowk isnt ur only reason that it takes too long that makes no sense of course it does

[jaunty vortex]

havent you been arguing with everyone who comes into this suggestion board?

[agile socket]

90% of them agree

[quiet wind]

u can pump fake into the moves idk why you don’t do that

[jaunty vortex]

exactly what i said

his answer?

[agile socket]

same guy who said you can pump fake into quick shot

[jaunty vortex]

no ones gonna fall for a pump fake

[quiet wind]

i literally did it

[agile socket]

they can jump again before you can shoot lol

[quiet wind]

that’s so cap

[agile socket]

thats not even what i said lol

HE IS RAGEBAITING OMG

[quiet wind]

so either ur slow asl and cant press perfect arc right after they jump

[jaunty vortex]

they literally cannot press perfect arc as they jump

[quiet wind]

or it’s a skill issue

[agile socket]

yo steel ur blocked for constant ragebait

[quiet wind]

this suggestion has to be rage bait bro

[agile socket]

ok so the thing is they get the jump back before i can shoot

[simple canyon]

perfect arc does not take that long to shoot??

[agile socket]

ig i have to speed up time wheni use perfect arc

thats for the ideas guys

[jaunty vortex]

@agile socket

[quiet wind]

bro go in game

pump fake and do perfect arc

[simple canyon]

the jump cd is like, a solid 3 seconds

[quiet wind]

clip it and send it here

[jaunty vortex]

do you wait for them to land to perfect arc or smth?

literally press perfect arc when they're in the air

[agile socket]

im still waiting for your clip of you pump faking then using quick release

[quiet wind]

this suggestion has to be rage bait bro

[agile socket]

cause i wanna see that

[quiet wind]

i don’t have sniper

[agile socket]

see

lair

[quiet wind]

i copied a sniper

and did it

[jaunty vortex]

kind of dumb that dont work lowk

[jaunty vortex]

prob a glitch

silly dude

its really not that hard to pump fake especially in a 3v3

[agile socket]

i just wanna be able to use sniper while marked at the end of the day

[jaunty vortex]

pump fake

then perfect arc when they are in the air or starting their jump

[agile socket]

cause in comp its worse than clutch in pubs its bottom 3

[simple canyon]

if they dont fall for the fake then pass back to a teammate

[jaunty vortex]

literally pump fake the guy covering you in the 3v3

it is one man

you are not playing against literal akashi

also did you just say clutch is better? doesnt he have the exact same problem?

jump stop takes forever to come out

[agile socket]

force defense is a top 3 move in the game lol

[jaunty vortex]

how would u score with jump stoo

[jaunty vortex]

top ankle breaked move

[simple canyon]

i mean clutch has pressure defense, pretty good move when you know how to use it

[agile socket]

use it when theyre abt toshoot

[jaunty vortex]

it only forces a pass and chance to do an jank pass intercept

[jaunty vortex]

then just block it atp

[quiet wind]

thats dragging it icl

[jaunty vortex]

not to mention sometimes it refuses to work and moves no where

[agile socket]

its like jackpot steal but hits more often and u gotta do a tech to get he ball

[jaunty vortex]

pressure defense is jank af

also u didnt explain to me how u can score with jump stop

it has the exact same problem as sniper

[agile socket]

use it backwards but the thing with that is ppl have started to learn from those

[jaunty vortex]

yeah lowk using it backwards doesnt really change the time it takes to come out so after u do it once ur gonna get blocked

[agile socket]

it just fakes out dumb ppl 10% ofthe time

[jaunty vortex]

10%

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even less probaly now that ppl have caught onto it

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right so how tf is clutch better than sniper?

like ur actually just hating on it lmao

it has the same problem where if ur covered u cant do anything but worse

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no even the top 1 NA sniper says this

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cus jump stop doesnt even have range

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most of comp does too

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the main for literally any chac will say their chac needs more

there are jackpot and aomine buffs in here bro

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he is abt to quit sniper for cc

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people are asking for those

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thats how bad it is

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or more of an attestament to how good copy cat is

also theres a style use ranking?

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yeah probaly

in my opinion

if ur gonna make a moves whole gimmic shooting

make it good at shooting

like why does lock get a garenteed steal that u cant take it from if they spam pass

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lowk i think perfect arc is fine as it is just make a suggestion for a move that compliments it to replace quick release

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perfect arc is just buns atm

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quick release is a lazy ahh move that i dont even remember the chac doing in the anime

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and unless ur using it at the 3 pt line

ppl arent going to jump when u fake

why would they jump if ur not at the 3 point line

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then go for a reg shot and do an alley oop

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theres obv going to be someone closer to the ball than me if im on the other teams side and doing that

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people pavlovs dogged themselves with the whoosh sound of shooting

its really funny when the sound plays they jump or atleast panic

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the formations tend to allways have a triangle shape

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quick release should be unblockable ngl since star has an unblockable 2-pt too

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i mean with a tm

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i agree with this

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just replace quick release it isnt a snipe or nothing

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yeah but then what is the point of perfect arc

[jaunty vortex]

its for threat and mix up u can pump fake after doing the alley oop a couple times and when they jump perfect arc

quick release however has 0 use

just ask for a quick release replacement that compliments perfect arc

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quick release is buns

[jaunty vortex]

changing perfect arc would cause complaints fom other people

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ik

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perfect arc is good in very very certain circumstances

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If your wide open

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right so give him a move that lets him create more situations like those

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man 2 man its usless

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hes backing u up dawg 💔

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literally unless you like pump fake them and it somehow works

then you should be able to use perfect arc

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but why would they jumpif your at half court pump faking

[jaunty vortex]

hes backing u up dawg 💔

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idek it works sometimes with my half court shot

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i mean

i do have a setup

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pav lovs dog its a real psychological thing

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a freind stands behindme and catches the blocked shot

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People see a shot and just jump

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but sometimes it just works

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so yeah and if you mess up js pass

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if they wont buff perfect arc they def needa buff quick release

cause littarly when i say

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its useless

[agile socket]

1/50 quick release work even if they are a 3 point

i mean it

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i mean silly u said u play 3v3s right?

[marble arch]

it’s not even quick it’s like a regular shot 🥀🥀

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if you want a truly cheese strat

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i mean its not that

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just stand at half court line and have ur tms play jack pot or aomine so they can dominate the 1v1s

and when they leave u just get a free perfect arc