Pump Fake Passing Has Removed Skillful Gameplay

[obtuse lotus]

no offense

[ornate totem]

LOOK AT ANNOUCAMENTSS

U CANT

U PHYSALLCLYL

CAN

NOT

[obtuse lotus]

OK?

OK?

[wild lark]

he’s not talking about the shooting

[obtuse lotus]

BUT WHAT ABT IT

[shell rapids]

chill bro 😭

[obtuse lotus]

WHEN UC AN JUST BLOCK THE SHOT LOL

[wild lark]

he’s talking about before they’re get to shooting distance

[ornate totem]

im trying to make him read it

[shell rapids]

he’s talking about when they’re shooting

[ornate totem]

if it too ssmall his attention span goe past the words

[ornate totem]

if what ur saying is true that a bug

[obtuse lotus]

blocking shots is a bug now ok

i understand it ok

https://tenor.com/view/thumbs-up-thumbs-up-gif-cat-thumb-cat-kawaii-gif-26916228

[tacit pollen]

They should lower the accuracy when you pass based on how far you are^^^

[obtuse lotus]

it can just get intercepted if your far away

[shell rapids]

almost like…

[wary dagger]

Just intercept

[potent plume]

It already is like that

[obtuse lotus]

theres a reason they added it back bro

[tacit pollen]

Lock is free to steal for a couple of seconds 😭

[ornate totem]

PUMP FAKE PASSING IS NOT BLOACKABLE

[wary dagger]

If you can't beat em join em

[ornate totem]

WHAT ARE THESE ARGUMENTS

[ornate totem]

fr

[obtuse lotus]

just use a ability

[shell rapids]

dude are you slow

[ornate totem]

ALL OF U ARE SAYING USe AN ABILITY AND WHEN I SAY THAT NOT A SOLUTION U JUST SAY BLOCK

[arctic prism]

Can you address mine yet orrr

[ornate totem]

LIKE HOLY SMART

[obtuse lotus]

YOUR TELLING ME TO FIND A SOLUTION BUT THEN REMOVING THE SOLUTION

HOLY COPEISM

[ornate totem]

???????????????????????

YOU CANT BLOCK IT

[shell rapids]

pump fake passing is a counterable mechanic

[ornate totem]

o smart

[obtuse lotus]

just block the shot when they shoot

[ornate totem]

that not even the argument

that shooting the ball

[tacit pollen]

😭

[ornate totem]

holy brain smarts

[obtuse lotus]

ok but the solution isnt in what ur talking abt

thats like giving me a math equasion and removing half of it

[arctic prism]

Do you got time for me or like

[ornate totem]

silly please im really trying to teach you sum like im not tryna insult you

[obtuse lotus]

u cant find a solution if u dont wait for one

[ornate totem]

i dont understand wth ur saying

[tacit pollen]

holy

[obtuse lotus]

CAUSE

YOUR

accept the dm

[ornate totem]

@obtuse lotus please tell me, how do u counter pumpassing

[arctic prism]

Ayo?

[obtuse lotus]

a ability

NOO

SILLY

BUT WITHOUT A ABILITY

NOO

AND U CANT BLOCK SILLY

U ALSO CANT PLAY THE GAME SILLY

[ornate totem]

abilities are not solutions to pumpfake passing because abilites have cooldowns making them only usable every 3+ plays laters while pumpfake passing allowss you to walk up the court and score for freee EVERYTIME. ablities are not a solution to this tech since U HAVE TO WAIT AND WATCH THEM WALK UP WHEN UR ON COOLDOWN

again

abilities are not solutions to pumpfake passing because abilites have cooldowns making them only usable every 3+ plays laters while pumpfake passing allowss you to walk up the court and score for freee EVERYTIME. ablities are not a solution to this tech since U HAVE TO WAIT AND WATCH THEM WALK UP WHEN UR ON COOLDOWN

abilities are not solutions to pumpfake passing because abilites have cooldowns making them only usable every 3+ plays laters while pumpfake passing allowss you to walk up the court and score for freee EVERYTIME. ablities are not a solution to this tech since U HAVE TO WAIT AND WATCH THEM WALK UP WHEN UR ON COOLDOWN

abilities are not solutions to pumpfake passing because abilites have cooldowns making them only usable every 3+ plays laters while pumpfake passing allowss you to walk up the court and score for freee EVERYTIME. ablities are not a solution to this tech since U HAVE TO WAIT AND WATCH THEM WALK UP WHEN UR ON COOLDOWN

READ THIS

[obtuse lotus]

TELL ME HOW U CONTER IT WITHOUT PLAYING THE GAME SILLY

OMG SILLY

[ornate totem]

READ IT

[arctic prism]

Could you read my argument I want your thoughts

[obtuse lotus]

I DID

[ornate totem]

oh sorry

[wary dagger]

Just use a ability

[ornate totem]

i didnt see it

[obtuse lotus]

AND IT STILL SAYS NOTHING ABT HOW U CANT JUST BOCK THE SHOT

[ornate totem]

could u send it again

[tacit pollen]

The game feels like your just passing back n fourth. Being able to block shoot passes introduces new positions and strategies. Like, positioning yourself so you can recover the pass that was just block

[obtuse lotus]

YOUR TEAMATES HAVE ABILITYS TOO YOU IDIOT

[arctic prism]

I'll scroll up and ping u ig

[wary dagger]

If you don't have one of the ability deal with It and move on

[tacit pollen]

^^^

[ornate totem]

abilities are not solutions to pumpfake passing because abilites have cooldowns making them only usable every 3+ plays laters while pumpfake passing allowss you to walk up the court and score for freee EVERYTIME. ablities are not a solution to this tech since U HAVE TO WAIT AND WATCH THEM WALK UP WHEN UR ON COOLDOWN

abilities are not solutions to pumpfake passing because abilites have cooldowns making them only usable every 3+ plays laters while pumpfake passing allowss you to walk up the court and score for freee EVERYTIME. ablities are not a solution to this tech since U HAVE TO WAIT AND WATCH THEM WALK UP WHEN UR ON COOLDOWN

COOLDOWN = U HAVE TO WAITCH THEM WALK UP THE COURT

[patent sparrow]

R u even in a team

[obtuse lotus]

DUDE COOLDOWNS ARENT SO LONG THAT AFTER ALL THAT TIME U WONT GET THEM

[tacit pollen]

skills cooldown are usually only 2 rounds

[patent sparrow]

Hi ignorance

why u here

[arctic prism]

@ornate totem this and also this ss

[tacit pollen]

If you had a giant, lock, and a jackpot or a star. Then, that is plenty full to block shoot passes. But, I still prefer with having shoot passes counterable without skills

[potent plume]

Some abilities have shorter cd

[obtuse lotus]

or just mark the ppl passing to eachother

[tacit pollen]

Because I'm bored and I have nothing to do

[ornate totem]

i agree with what you are saying, you see that the game should be played at the three point line while accepting that pumpfake passing moves the ball up very quickly and easily, i prefer to play the game with steal and block mechanic since it is more fun in my opinion. but what you are saying is what you prefer and makes total sense

[patent sparrow]

Ranked up already😭

[obtuse lotus]

at the end of the day idk why ur even arguing theyre not gonna remove this

[obtuse lotus]

only thing i can see is a pump fake pass i frame cd

[patent sparrow]

They might change it

[ornate totem]

u enjoy playing ur little pass up the court while holding hands game, im glad i dont play this game anymore

[patent sparrow]

Why u even here dawg😭

[tacit pollen]

they illegalized slavery so why not this

[ornate totem]

read the thread

[obtuse lotus]

omg its so sad that he dosent play we care so much!!!

[ornate totem]

now that is how i know u are a child

[obtuse lotus]

we want this one guy who hates dribbling in soccer games and passing in basketball games

so bad

[ornate totem]

? huh?

[tacit pollen]

He's literally just suggesting bro 😭

[ornate totem]

soccer games? what is he on

[obtuse lotus]

bro idc he told me to go to sleep at 5am like 30 times

[arctic prism]

The problem with pass blocking is that when u get whaled on by a group it gets harder to pass and really annoying and encourages aping, steals are still possible even with pass tech through slip ups or because their team is spread out and covered it's not like the tech removes them from the game or anything

[patent sparrow]

Maybe if this game is actually basketball they would remove pump pass

[obtuse lotus]

aping is NOT a good thing i remember when i was top 1 in vbl it was so annoying to have apes on my team

[patent sparrow]

but this is roblox

life... is roblox....

[obtuse lotus]

you can littarly pump pass in real life

[ornate totem]

very true i think groups ganging you when u have the ball becomes a very large issue when playing the game i describeb, but pumpfake passing makes it so the way i described doesnt even exist

[patent sparrow]

You can get iframes irl?

[patent sparrow]

ts what i meant btw

the iframes

[obtuse lotus]

basically you do if youve actualy played the sport

[tacit pollen]

And, I can block it. That's the difference

[patent sparrow]

Yeah you right

[tacit pollen]

???

?????????

[patent sparrow]

I only play nba2k

[arctic prism]

Wouldn't it not existing be positive or just a quirk of the game?

[tacit pollen]

??????

????

am i missing a patch note that god added last week???

iframes????

[obtuse lotus]

i said basicly lol

quit nit picking

loer

[patent sparrow]

Basically

Ignorance

How r u this dumb

😭😭

[tacit pollen]

what

😭

wdym iframes

[ornate totem]

i think pumpfake pasing needs to be fixed before any other form of game can exist also the way i decribed it isnt me making thing up, it simply is how the game is played when pump passing is removed. the ganging problem cant be solved if pumpassing covers everything in the game forcing into this version of holding hand to walk up the court

[ornate totem]

the ball get iframes when u pump pass

[patent sparrow]

Why don't you js make a game atp

[tacit pollen]

irl?

crazy

[patent sparrow]

Put zero on the end of the title game name

So it gets popular

[ornate totem]

i could but im not as good as these devs to make such a mechanicly well rounded game

[tacit pollen]

I didnt knew basketball got an update last week

[ornate totem]

i also dont have the resorces to do so

[ornate totem]

oh

wth

irl?

[arctic prism]

Im confused what do you mean by form of game or making things up? I didn't say u made anything up did I? Also would pump fake passing solve the aping issue because it punishes it?

[ornate totem]

yes it solves the aping issue and u make a great point that maybe the game simply is played like this because of how they tried to solve aping

[obtuse lotus]

i mean if i removed every solution to my argument and kept arguing id have a pretty good argument too

[arctic prism]

Hush let me argue solo

[ornate totem]

i just wanted to clarify "form" of game without sounding like i was making things up

[tacit pollen]

While we're having a discussion , bump my suggestion in which I suggested being able to pick what region you want to play in during ranked or 3v3s

[arctic prism]

I know but what does that mean?

[ornate totem]

were not aruging bru

its called a discussion

[rose canyon]

Aint no way y’all still arguing

[shell rapids]

be more descriptive bro

[arctic prism]

Like vbl?

[tacit pollen]

sorry king

[tacit pollen]

its in the title for gods sake

[tacit pollen]

yes

[arctic prism]

@ornate totem

[shell rapids]

can’t hurt to be more descriptive in how you want this to be achieved

[arctic prism]

He wants it like how it is in volleyball legends

[ornate totem]

lowk u make a great point that aping is a huge problem and pump fake could be how the devs chose to fix it, the game seems a lot better from this perspective

[ornate totem]

it just means: the way the game is played

[shell rapids]

how was i supposed to infer that from the original post?

[tacit pollen]

Correct me if im wrong but roblox added an API that helps with this

[arctic prism]

Yeah because the hand holding scenario you mention isn't even a free goal or anything you still have to try and score

[shell rapids]

bro should update his suggestion

[arctic prism]

No I was just telling u lol

[shell rapids]

yeah ik lol

[tacit pollen]

I swear I saw it in the devforum but I forgot abt it

[ornate totem]

true but i still think holding hands and getting a free trasnsion is dumb

[obtuse lotus]

ahh yes but abilitys and blocking shots are too hard for little ol superyummypoop123456

[ornate totem]

silly please go sleep or sum

[arctic prism]

The thing is holding hands isn't even safe as it falls victim to abilities on top of having to try and score a goal last defense

In a real match u can punish hand holders

[ornate totem]

@obtuse lotus
i know ur a child based on the fact u cant make a single logical argument or understand a perspective that is not ur own

[obtuse lotus]

nope

[shell rapids]

elaborate

[obtuse lotus]

u just keep coping with telling me to come up with another solution, eventualy removing all solutions and coping even harder when i tell you it

[ornate totem]

the game is literally coded so u can not intercept the ball when pumpasing

it doesnt get much safer than that

also for anyone making the ablitly argument

[obtuse lotus]

but if u do man to man you wont get ur dribbles back fast enough and they can just steal the ball from you

[ornate totem]

abilities are not solutions to pumpfake passing because abilites have cooldowns making them only usable every 3+ plays laters while pumpfake passing allowss you to walk up the court and score for freee EVERYTIME. ablities are not a solution to this tech since U HAVE TO WAIT AND WATCH THEM WALK UP WHEN UR ON COOLDOWN

[tacit pollen]

I'm not an experienced developer, that was just my suggestion. The developers will solve it on their own because thats their job. My only intention was having that show up at the suggestions list so they know people want that feature added

thank you

[shell rapids]

can’t hurt to be more descriptive

do you not think they get 10s of this type of suggestion lol

[tacit pollen]

I cant 😭

[shell rapids]

😭

[arctic prism]

Only intercept by regular means not abilities in a real match a jack pot will steal from them for a free ball when they could've just pump fake passed around normally

[ornate totem]

aight ima try to talk with u, i have no clue wth what u just said means

[tacit pollen]

I did thought of that but there's always a chance mine will show at the top so why not?

[obtuse lotus]

oh but im the child

ok

[ornate totem]

im saying explain it

[obtuse lotus]

ok so

[shell rapids]

throwing eggs to break a stone 😭

[obtuse lotus]

if i give u a solution so something

[ornate totem]

read the ability message i sent

[obtuse lotus]

and u tell me to give u another

eventualy there will be no soultion left

[ornate totem]

@arctic prism abilities are not solutions to pumpfake passing because abilites have cooldowns making them only usable every 3+ plays laters while pumpfake passing allowss you to walk up the court and score for freee EVERYTIME. ablities are not a solution to this tech since U HAVE TO WAIT AND WATCH THEM WALK UP WHEN UR ON COOLDOWN

[obtuse lotus]

dawg

mods

[storm sand]

Completely agree it's made the game too easy now mostly every time a team has possession they will score. Unless abilities are used since we cannot get the ball

[tacit pollen]

shhhh

these snitchers

[ornate totem]

write everythign in one message

[obtuse lotus]

pov your 60 ovr

[arctic prism]

But the thing is they aren't scoring for free and cooldowns are around 30 seconds so it's more every 2 plays

The abilities are just a cherry on top of defending

[obtuse lotus]

also

[ornate totem]

im saying the pressure aplied from the tech is far greater than the relife u recive from the abilties

[obtuse lotus]

If u have all stealing abilitys

[storm sand]

😂😂I'm 100 ovr and Im good at the game the only ones who say it shouldn't be removed are the ones who are bad at the game

[obtuse lotus]

youll get the ball so much

[obtuse lotus]

idrc loser

anyways

[ornate totem]

no you justs cant defend without abilites

[arctic prism]

What pressure they're just moving up? U can still defend

[arctic prism]

Why?

[shell rapids]

people reach 100 OVR and think they’re allat 😭

[storm sand]

It's too bad I can't go higher

[shell rapids]

😭

[tacit pollen]

yes, but i still want pump passing to be blockable so we can have more strategies and positions

[storm sand]

Yea

[arctic prism]

Isn't ovr 100 just mean u spent a lot of time playing not an actual ranking

[ornate totem]

shot defense is much harder in this game due to all the offensive abilites u have not considered and if u have to use dfensive abilies on trasntion, when will u choose to ue defnsive ablities when there are two frounts of attack. and even without abilite offense mechanics are just heavily favored

[tacit pollen]

@obtuse lotus And, thanks for reporting really appreciated

[shell rapids]

yeah…

[obtuse lotus]

if u have all abilites with a steal move youll get the ball so much that youll have your abilitys back before the enimes even have a chance to get to the paint so in conclusion pump fake passing should be BUFFED cause in that comp its impossible for the other team to win without the same comp

[storm sand]

Bro I'm waiting for ranked gonna be easy ahhh

[storm sand]

Bro just stop cooking 😭

[obtuse lotus]

dont argue cause this is true in comp and there are rules around it

[tacit pollen]

whatever you say bro

[teal mango]

@tacit pollen you better chill with the images you are sending 😭

[storm sand]

U play for a team or something?

[shell rapids]

in a perfect BBZ utopia, what should be the average amount of points for both teams when the game ends?

[ornate totem]

WE UP TO 31 REACTIONS FIREEEE

[obtuse lotus]

yeah man he send something crazy earlier

[ornate totem]

idk bru wth

[shell rapids]

bro what

[ornate totem]

how th would i know

[storm sand]

Each game is 8 minutes right?

[shell rapids]

you’re vague in your wishes

inaction mirrors your every step

[ornate totem]

dude.. my wish is make pump passsing blockable

BOOM

[arctic prism]

Things like aomines shot or lucky bounce aren't guaranteed goals and while giving an advantage can be blocked, what you don't consider is that your team also has abilities, the flow of the game is a good balance of rough defense and advantageous offense as both teams race for points with even one defense play causing a lead due to equal scoring

[tacit pollen]

Sorry king, wont happen again. My hand was twitching so I had to send it.

[obtuse lotus]

so whats the argment to this @grizzled flame

[shell rapids]

you have an overarching point in the defensive side of the game

in my opinion, defense is fine as is

how much better should defense be?

should every game be 20-20 after it ends?

what do you want from me?? 😭

[teal mango]

Make it sure don't do it again or else if you send one more time I have to ask Someone remove your image perms for that 🥀

[ornate totem]

i think you like playing the game with shot defense while i like playing transition defnese, u make a valid arguement and i dont rly know what to say

[tacit pollen]

🫡

[storm sand]

In a perfect utopia the final score would be 36-36

[shell rapids]

isn’t suggestion image perms like… everyone?

[storm sand]

Assuming a 3 pointer is scored every 20 seconds

[teal mango]

We can remove someone image perms individually

[ornate totem]

silence

[shell rapids]

that sounds ominous 😭

[arctic prism]

Wouldn't forcing the game to change to your preferences be kinda selfish when the devs intend something else?

[shell rapids]

superyummyglue

[tacit pollen]

thats literally what suggestions are for

[ornate totem]

yes

[shell rapids]

😭

[storm sand]

Bro don't U wanna be able to block passes? Does it not anger U when U perfectly time a block and it just goes past Ur hand and U can't even do anything so there's no point of even tryna block

[tacit pollen]

man these guys

[arctic prism]

Game improvement and asking for what you want are different it's like those people asking for Aomine buffs

[storm sand]

This is game improvement

[ornate totem]

WHAT IS SUPAA FIREEE

[shell rapids]

it’s not that deep

[tacit pollen]

This is game improvement

[arctic prism]

No cus I block shots

[storm sand]

Pump pass requires no skill 😂

[tacit pollen]

go back to twitter bro

"selfish"

[arctic prism]

Why block a pass when u can just cover them and block their shot

[shell rapids]

pls buff ace plssss no off the ball and defense abilities are we serious 😭

[storm sand]

These guys must all be public server players 😂😂

[shell rapids]

devs… 🥺

[tacit pollen]

thats what suggestions are for...

[shell rapids]

you’re no one

we’re no one

this game takes no skill 😭

[ornate totem]

sorry i dont think its selfish since in my opinion the way i described reqires much more skil (imo) and many people think the same way so yeah its not that selfish

[storm sand]

Yea cos of pump passing

[arctic prism]

So would you say you support the people asking for Aomine buffs as good suggestions?

[shell rapids]

what do you main then

[tacit pollen]

no

[storm sand]

I can play every single one mainly play giant in scrims due to pump passing

[arctic prism]

So you agree a suggestion can be selfish towards ones own preferences

[ornate totem]

aomine does need a buff

[tacit pollen]

no, they were just suggesting

that aint selfish

[ornate totem]

i think the point of sugguestions is to states one's opnions, no one is imposing it on anyone else so u cant rly call it selfish

[tacit pollen]

yes this.

[storm sand]

They need to make pump passing blockable that's it

[shell rapids]

suggestions are meant to be “selfish”… idk what ur on ngl

[blissful garnet]

Tbf, regular passing is easily counter-able, especially if you're being 2 or 3-manned (pause)

[shell rapids]

no

[arctic prism]

But suggesting implies gentle idea giving when in reality its an attempt to pressure the devs for what you want half the suggestions say the devs are wrong or dumb

[storm sand]

Yea that's fine regular passing is stoppable however in pump passing 3 guys could be on u and they can't block U 😂

[shell rapids]

they need to reduce pump fake iframes and that’s just about it as far as pump fake balancing goes

[ornate totem]

regular passing is hard very agreed but i just really like the skill aspect of it

[tacit pollen]

@arctic prism

[ornate totem]

it really adds levels to the game of people predicing eachotehr

[storm sand]

These guys don't wanna increase the skill ceiling of the game 😂

[shell rapids]

can you give me some instances?

[arctic prism]

It's like those laws that politicians try to pass despite many people disagreeing just become they want to make the law for themselves

[ornate totem]

there is such thing as selfish suggestions tho technically since if u want the game to be changed entirely just cause u wish to play it a certain way its pretty selfish @arctic prism

[tacit pollen]

keep chatting in here so the devs can see it

[shell rapids]

because it’s a braindead game bro let it be a braindead, power creeped, P2W game 😭

[blissful garnet]

If pump passing becomes blockable, then they'll be no passing at all, we already got too many ppl out here with main character syndrome

[ornate totem]

FRRRR

[tacit pollen]

dang i thought you were on my side 😔

[ornate totem]

i am dw

[gloomy canopy]

i disagree JAAHA

[shell rapids]

🥶

[storm sand]

Yea but in scrims and stuff pump passing is too easy everytime a team has possession it will lead to a point unless abilities like giant are used to stop the pump

[frank ridge]

1300 messages and only couple reactions is craaazy

[arctic prism]

Also stating and pressuring by painting your suggestion as a solution to a problem so that the devs have to add it or they aren't "fixing it" are different

[frank ridge]

"reactions

[ornate totem]

GUYS THIS THREADD IS FUILLLLLLINGG UPPP LESS GOOO

DEVS WIL NOTICEEE

PLEASEEE

[arctic prism]

@ornate totem

[shell rapids]

they yap too much 😈

[frank ridge]

U need reactions more than messages ._.

[shell rapids]

a huge flaw with suggestions is how unclear the points made on either side of the argument are

this goes for just about any other discussion on this app

[gloomy canopy]

imagine talking in bbz

in A bbz suggestion

lebron lebron lebroon james

[storm sand]

Just say Ur bad gang 😂

[ornate totem]

im not pointing out a solution, if u read the thread i simply state the issue and sugguest a fix but mainly bring up the issue to the devs attention. i hope more than anything for them to notice not just remove it

[arctic prism]

Isn't that kinda what your doing though? The game is fine with pump fake passing you just want it out because personally you don't like jt

[storm sand]

The games skill ceiling is too low that's an issue

[shell rapids]

you’re sooo good at this braindead game bro congrats 😭

[ornate totem]

so i thoguht about this and no since many other people agree with what im saying

[arctic prism]

Im on my phone can u reply to the original message for me to read again

[storm sand]

Yh bro Ty I wanna be better so they need to remove noob tactics to higher the skill ceiling rn

[ornate totem]

fhso

@arctic prism

[arctic prism]

Having one party agree with you doesn't make you automatically right I mean have you seen the state of America?

[shell rapids]

what

are you 12

[ornate totem]

im not right but im sugguesting, in america (SUPPOSIDLY )many parties state their opinion to create a generally agreeable one

[storm sand]

No I just like competing?

[arctic prism]

Yeah this is what I said, painting ur suggestion as a solution instead of an idea to pressure the devs to "fix it"

[shell rapids]

then don’t compete in this game, ez fix

[blissful garnet]

That's technically the point, giant, star and lock are defensive styles, besides, proper defensive play makes sure they have nobody to pass to, however nobody does proper defensive play cuz of, once again, main character syndrome, ball chasing, ball hogging and so on

[storm sand]

😂😂 I'm gonna reach the top in this game when ranked comes out either way

[arctic prism]

Right but technically you have one party which is the ones that fully agree with you, the whole point of political parties are for when people have differing views

[ornate totem]

ig ur right but i perssonally hate the tech so understand im trying to get the devs to agree with me

[shell rapids]

that means nothing lol

[storm sand]

Yea not like Ur gonna make it

So we'll never know

[blissful garnet]

I once saw a giant use his skills to catch his teammates shot so he'd score instead, bro was greedy

[shell rapids]

do i look like i care 😭

[arctic prism]

Right but isn't that a selfish way to make a suggestion and lowk rude to the devs who made it in the first place?

[ornate totem]

this aint politics im just suggesting how i want a basketball game played cuz school is rough and i wana come home to a fun game

[storm sand]

U should play for teams or clubs

[shell rapids]

damn, bros cooking 😔

[arctic prism]

Politics are an example to show how getting people who agree with you doesn't make you right by default

[storm sand]

Public servers are too easy and allow you to be an egoist however league games are completely different from public

[shell rapids]

why do you keep yapping about comp bro

ts too much 🙏

[ornate totem]

yes im not right but i sure as would love the game to be played the way i descrbied it, and many agree

[arctic prism]

Yeah I mean I'm pretty sure only like 40% of the player base plays 3s let alone league

[tacit pollen]

I just left to wash my dishes and now we're talking about politics?

[shell rapids]

lmao

[arctic prism]

But your not saying you would love or appreciate it, you're saying that it is a problem and needs to be fixed to further your agenda technically

[ornate totem]

over a roblox game too,,

[storm sand]

😭 yea ig but even in public pump passing is becoming common and you can't 1v3 the same anymore

[arctic prism]

It was an example to prove a point lmao

[ornate totem]

im saying it is a problem because that is how i see it

u cant impose ur opnion on me

i agree with how u see things and u have to accept how i see mine

[arctic prism]

I'm not I'm saying your pressuring the devs by painting yourself as the right side because you are giving a "solution" not an idea a solution and I'm just saying that's not cool

[ornate totem]

and yes u have to since everyone is entitled to their opnion no matter how terrible, lookin at you silly dude from prior

[arctic prism]

I do accept I'm just saying the way I go about it isn't very good

[storm sand]

bro you should give a solution so they can also derive ideas from the solution

[ornate totem]

opinions are okay imposing action on other is another thing

[arctic prism]

I never disrespected ur opinion I'm saying the way you present it is in poor taste and of poor character

[storm sand]

they want the player base to tell them what they think of the game

[ornate totem]

and im saying you cant rly say that since im juts passionate about my perscpecitve

[arctic prism]

Being passionate and in poor taste is possible though?

Have you seen the state of American politics?

Elon musk?

[ornate totem]

explain what is in poor taste

[ornate totem]

please no its not politics its wathcing a funny orange man, destroy the world

[arctic prism]

The way you are pressuring the devs and painting your suggestion as the de facto right one as a solution and not a suggestion

[arctic prism]

Right he's passionate and in VERY poor taste

[storm sand]

when a man states a problem that they think needs to be discussed and dealt with accordingly it's only logical to assume that the person who states the issue or problem, they also state a possible solution that they think will resort in a fix to the issue and this would also invite others to contribute with solutions of their owns and can give the Devs ideas of where to take this issue and how to deal with it. Your argument is flawed

[ornate totem]

okay dude this is excessive, if the devs feel presured maybe there rly is a problem that should be addressed

[ornate totem]

very right, expect im not imposing actions on anyone

[storm sand]

He's rage baiting his argument is completely flawed

[arctic prism]

It's a hypothetical based on your wording I'm saying the way you worded it is intended to pressure

[ornate totem]

no hes not

[ornate totem]

ur right i did word it to apply pressure

but it is up to the devs to make the decions and if a few words can pressure them then the game is more flawed than me thin

[arctic prism]

Assuming you alone know the problem is what I'm saying is wrong here it's wrong to immediately put yourself in the right

[arctic prism]

Ok

[storm sand]

Yea I'm on phone so I can't see and reread but I thought U had an issue with giving solutions

[arctic prism]

I mean yeah I'm not saying I'm gonna do anything about it was just saying it bothered me lmao

[arctic prism]

Oof

[arctic prism]

Lowk ty it's been so long since I've had a conversation with a sensible person 😭

[storm sand]

Agreed with this though

[blissful garnet]

What's up with ppl tryna add a higher rarity than mythical?

[ornate totem]

same, enoyed talking with u thanks for the input

[blissful garnet]

Gambling addicts

[ornate totem]

do it.. no ballz

[storm sand]

😂 idek

[arctic prism]

People fein for the hype

They want their style to be the big main style that's the star of the game no one wants to suggest an epic people will rarely use

[blissful garnet]

Or they're gambling addicts, fair point tho

[arctic prism]

Except for me please check out my epic style suggestion cough cough

[arctic prism]

I'm on my phone so I can't link it but it's called the scavenger style

[ornate totem]

i found this epic style to be pretty cool

[arctic prism]

Lowk any suggestion under mythic is chad

[arctic prism]

Legendary or epic I can't tell 😭

[ornate totem]

its bascily makes the pump fake shooting and passing into a whole style

pretty useless to add rn since pumpfaking can be done for free

but its still cool

[arctic prism]

Can u read my suggestion I wanna know what u think

[ornate totem]

fhso

[arctic prism]

Scavenger style I can't link it rn cus mobile

Wait no I can

https://discord.com/channels/1326149032384532530/1363646516060880947

[ornate totem]

you should organize it to be easier to read

u can take inspo from how i did my thread

[arctic prism]

On my comp later prob

Rn I can't

[ornate totem]

yeah

[blissful garnet]

The more styles they add, the more this game will eventually crash and burn, I'm jus waiting for them to fix phantom

[arctic prism]

Bro I leveled up twice in the discord talk here 😂

[ornate totem]

oh yeah react to my post pls even if u dont agree just so devs can at least see it

[ornate totem]

i went from 3 to 8

💀

[arctic prism]

Depends on how polished the styles are and if they expand it alongside the styles like new game modes and mechanics like pass feinting or smth

[ornate totem]

fr, after they add a certain amount of styles the game will auto die

theres nothing they can do

its just how these roblox games work

[arctic prism]

Cus if they just add styles to try and grab more and more hype yeah at some point there will be too much

But the idea is to expand the box then put more in it

Chrollos on the right path rn adding people servers and ranked

[ornate totem]

power creep has to exist to create hype too but look at copy💀 , its already reached a point where u cant compete if they have something new

[arctic prism]

Pro servers

[arctic prism]

Really? Copy cat is on the weaker side of mythics in my games

Except for his ult glitch cus he can use it multiple times

[ornate totem]

lock is really op, and copy is great with the dang crossing half the court in one step move

[blissful garnet]

In fact, they need to fix most of the styles in the game so they'd be more variety in game, thus making it more fun, instead they add more busted stuff for ppl to spend money on and it's starting to get tedious

[arctic prism]

Gotcha

[ornate totem]

react to post🔥

[arctic prism]

I thought lock and Chuck were nice

[ornate totem]

i agree they needa add more ways to play the game and not just scoring potential

[blissful garnet]

It's pretty good, I haven't figured out how to deal with the drive but I'm getting there, I'm pretty sure you can steal the ball if he bursts

[ornate totem]

they were perfect, just that lock is really op💀

[arctic prism]

Like my suggestion fr fr

[ornate totem]

oh yeah

fsho

[blissful garnet]

It's busted but flawed

[arctic prism]

Yeah stealing from lock intercept if ur ready for it I would say makes it balanced

Plus rn sometimes it just don't work and takes the cd lol

[blissful garnet]

And hands up is the worst defensive move in the game, the hitbox is too small,ion know what they were thinking

[ornate totem]

its flawed cuz of pumpasingg😭

[ornate totem]

pumpassinggg😭

[blissful garnet]

Bruh no

[mild venture]

gaye

[blissful garnet]

BRUH NO

[arctic prism]

If someone goes for a pump fake for and tries to shoot u can stop them essentially solo

[ornate totem]

that lowk makes it balanced

its anoying

[ornate totem]

i really like lock i dont think its that flawed, wym its flawed

[arctic prism]

Yo we get it you hate pump passing 😭

[blissful garnet]

It's good for faints, but chrollo himself said it's supposed to block passes and it does that but that hitbox too damn small

[ornate totem]

u cant even use it to block pumppasing

[arctic prism]

I mean the hitbox is above you and slightly on the sides ur literally putting ur hands up

[blissful garnet]

Stop trauma dumping on me😭

[ornate totem]

the hitbox is the exact same as ur chararcter blocking it just makes you do it for a duration

[arctic prism]

Also don't listen to chrollo he rarely plays his own games he's too busy hustling for more money

[arctic prism]

Oh so literally above you damn

[ornate totem]

i mean its like a little to ur side.. just a little

[blissful garnet]

That makes no sense, the hitboxes in this game are completely nonsensical, and yet hands up is terrible

[blissful garnet]

Ive blocked passes with it before

[arctic prism]

I'm saying if the ball isn't going like directly above u it prob won't block

[ornate totem]

dude the move applies really great defensive pressure also shot baiting with it is great

u jump to make them think they r safe to shoot then u use pressure to block

[arctic prism]

I know it's possible but chrollo doesn't know the context to what he's saying he's giving surface level advice

[arctic prism]

A tip is to jump and steal then press it cus then u don't get the speed debuff

[ornate totem]

that cuz it wasnt a pumppass💔

[arctic prism]

We get it dawg 😭

[blissful garnet]

Ight bruh😭

[arctic prism]

Gonna sleep now gn

[blissful garnet]

Pretty sure is doesn't test the styles himself, as long as it fw the kids braincells and makes him money

[blissful garnet]

Ight good Morning

[ornate totem]

Same but fr thx for discusing me with me tdy i was abta delete this thread with all the idiots yappin at me without logic

[wild lark]

yh i understand playing defense at the 3 point line, but real basketball involves stopping the attack before then

[ornate totem]

most of basketball is actually paint defense but this game u cant miss a three so u play like ur gaurding steph the whole game

[old sun]

all of you guys so wrong

why would they nerf that

it would be wrong

like thats like saying

nerf pump shooting

passes can be blocked if you have actual comp TRUE comp

even if you back up and pass or find a way around it

I disagree

100%

anybody else who doesnt its a skill issue

[wild lark]

no correlation

[livid hornet]

Ad hominem. The pump fake into a pass is legit unblockable by the player in front of the ball holder bruh

[wild lark]

exactly

[livid hornet]

The point of the post is that the pass after a fake cant be smacked

It should be able to be smacked

Makes no sense as to why its not

[livid hornet]

This part is true, somewhat, you can intercept (not lock's skill) a pump fake pass by being in front of the receiver. However, once again, not the point of this post

The post is focusing on the defenders near the possessor of the ball. The pump fake into a pass essentially turns it into a semi-lucky pass and invalidates the option to smack a pass from the air and make it so the defending team HAS to intercept the pass by being in front of the receiver

[old sun]

its dumb thats like saying pump fake when you shoot cannot be smacked why should everything be smacked you dont have to block passes you can block shooting or steal the ball or intercept the ball off zone and man coverage or use lock or score most of the time and stop a few

[old sun]

if you normal pass it in serious servers its gonna get smacked there is 0 way around it literally

it only works on bots in random public servers

I play in leagues comp

I disagree

[fresh dune]

Wait, yall actually complaining about this tech?

Its really not that bad to defend against

If they keep pumppassing on a short distance then they will eventually have to separate to get space to shoot

You just have to wait til then

Theres 0 chance ur getting up the court without pump passing in a very comp server as terror said

Thats just the limitation of 3 dribbles and easily blockable passes

This is the games way of counteracting it

Me and my duo haven't really found people abusing this tech that hard to defend since we know they will have to separate one way anyways

This honestly all sounds like the difference between someone actually good and adapts to the game and someone who plays casuals and expect the game to adapt to them

[ornate totem]

read the post

also if u say normal pass always gets smacked that is hilariously a skill issue

[ornate totem]

holding hands up the court.. what a fun way to play the game

[ornate totem]

i dont think its adapting i think its just people not wanting to spend the time to actualy learn to pass, instead they want ez offense to look cool and stat pad

[obtuse lotus]

this is the best and right argument

[high quiver]

remove pumpfake passing

[fresh dune]

Lmao if you'd rather get smacked and stolen from than actually being able to score then please be my guest, thats just free stats for the defenders on you

[fresh dune]

It is adapting, you can only do so much with a normal pass and your ability will only save you from one possession

Then after that you're guaranteed to get either smacked, stolen, or your pass getting intercepted by an opposing teamate

So please tell me

Is it more fun scoring 0 points in a game

Or adapting from the tools given by the devs themselves and actually play the game

Icl im not saying im the greatest player ever, but you sound like you play too much casual lobbies and you should really see how these 3v3 comp sweats play

Without pump passing, your chance of scoring is very slim

[livid hornet]

Having to rely on a particular style just to stop the pump passes is bad design, forcing a team to have a style just for the pump passes. Also, not really complaining about pump fake into a shot, since you know, its actually blockable.

[livid hornet]

Saying that you can "Just use lock" a style, to get counter the pump passing. Then going on to state that "theres no way to pass" in serious servers ignoring the fact that there are multiple styles that have a unblockable pass as a skill is a little hypocritical. Im happy that there are counters to certain style skills. However, the act of pump passing being unblockable and requiring a skill to intercept the pass is a little much.

[old sun]

@fresh dune someone give this a man medal for everything he just said

[old sun]

Okay than don't use lock I never said lock was the only way to counter it you can use zones and rotations to cut offensive movement to get the ball or you can time it steal or block shots nobody uses normal passing if your in serious servers cause people who are comp with 5k 6k points meaning they are serious they can block the ball and time it in different angles you cannot go up the court passing in different lanes using this method even tho its unblockable you can still play defense off when people shoot not everything has to be defending off the pass

[old sun]

Exactly you can find different areas around it you have 3 dribbles you people who are comp and have a good mindset and have desire to win is gonna count the dribbles play man to man defense and time it and block or steal it pressuring you to pass and its gonna get blocked thats why pump exist in passes they dont realize they can stop ball movement in different ways they just dont wanna find adjustments they want the game to adapt to them to make it easier for them so they can win

Why would anybody wanna pass the ball if its just gonna get smacked and you only have 3 dribbles to move around the defender thats like saying pump fake for shooting oh its bad when they pump fake and shoot the ball what they gonna do remove pump fake out the game entirely

sick

[fresh dune]

I didnt know people around that point range is considered comp lmao

We beat them on a daily basis that we're now always looking forward to people with 15k+points

[old sun]

in 3s like 3v3s I have an ulitmate line up

1. lock
2. giant
3. copycat
   using these styles me and my friends went on a 20 win streak

[fresh dune]

You really think lock is top1?

Its bottom in my list rn lmao

[old sun]

Most people don't realize techs with him they don't understand how defense wins matches its just as valauble as scoring

[fresh dune]

I didnt even know there were techs with him

[old sun]

it all relies on timing

[fresh dune]

Every lock player we've gone against, have been a joke

[old sun]

and having other good players with good styles to assist you

[fresh dune]

Intercept is such a useless skill and hands up isnt even in the discussion

[old sun]

your in publics

100%

pub servers are just filled with randoms

[fresh dune]

Ive been rocking 3v3s lol

Pubs has become too boring

[old sun]

valid

[fresh dune]

How do you guys use intercept?

Without getting stolen from

We always laugh whenever an intercept gets used because we have a fast enough reaction time that we can just steal it back right away

And hands up is so easily able to shoot over

Only thing good is the ult

[old sun]

Soon as I use it I quickly look at the person and it auto passes I also use space when I use it so defenders can't spam steal the ball if someone else is using lock you play manaual defense until they use lock first than after they use it the moment they use it you can counter it by intercepting back the moment they use it if your up agasint a lock user but down on scoreboard always use lock intercept first if they try to counter pressure the offense by stealing or running defensive zones to force a turnover

People think im crazy when I put lock over flash and dont get me wrong flash will always be the best legendary but the only reason I put it lock over it cause defense is important

and I manage to do good with lock

in comp 3s

[fresh dune]

Jumping while using interecept is actually genius

That might bump it for top 5 for me

[old sun]

Exactly

only bad thing about lock

is the hands up range

[fresh dune]

Yeah its bad

Atleast either give it a speed boost or the ability to literally block all passes like intercept

[maiden sparrow]

how space + pass even work

[fresh dune]

Its the same as jump steal

Jump then use intercept

The range is so big with intercept that it should work

[dusty dagger]

I like how every person who says it doesn’t need a nerf there argument is “it’s so easy to block” it’s unblockable 😐 yes you can intercept it but let’s be real if it’s a odd vs even number team there’s nothing you can really do and if they get close and pass it’s literally not takable without a ability I won’t say it needs to be removed but nerfed indeed no one plays a basketball game and just pump fake passes the whole game people say it will make the game boring but doing like 3 pump passes then scoring a 3 every play is as boring as it gets theres no action and barely defense because against good players with chemistry it’s nearly impossible to counter it

[fresh dune]

I dont believe i said anywhere that pump passes were easy to block. And if they end up doing that close to each other pump pass strat, the result remains and that they will still have to separate in order to score, its back to normal defending the shots at that point

Its more so just a different way of bringing the ball up which i think isnt a big issue

The more glaring issue is the lack of ways to bring the ball up

[dusty dagger]

Not talking to you directly I’ve been reading through and some people don’t have a good reason for why it should be in the game

[fresh dune]

I agree, there is no way to block the pump pass

You can only hope your teamate is marking a guy

Or if youre skilled enough to read ther actions, use jackpot steal or giant snatch block, or even stars high jump

[dusty dagger]

Ik how to counter it what im saying mainly is that a lot of people don’t know about this tech or just don’t know how to counter and being teamed with people like that who aren’t even bad they just don’t know about the tech

[fresh dune]

Sooner or later they will, people will get better and will learn how to counter it one day

As of now its just a matter or lack of knowledge/skill issue

Maybe if the devs implement offball dashing then this could fix this problem

So everyones happy

[dusty dagger]

fair there mostly people just need to learn to guard one person and a tech like this will encourage people to do so

[fresh dune]

I honestly think the hitbox for intercepting passes is just insane

And im not talking about the skill

Just intercept in general

If you have a guy marking you, you aint getting that ball

Thats why i think being able to use offball dashing can solve this issue so you can get space to avoid it

[dusty dagger]

yea but the moves is so counter able most lock users don’t know you can just take the ball before they pass it

[fresh dune]

Thats why i think its mid in 3v3

Tho i just tried it with the jump intercept and it doesnt fully make you immune to steal but it does save you like half a second of not being stolen

So i guess i can bump it up

[dusty dagger]

the move can save you sometimes but all they need is jackpot steal or good reaction time and you pretty much just made the easiest turnover

[fresh dune]

I used to think highly of lock until i started playing serious 3v3 lmao

Now its a mid tier

[dusty dagger]

yea but it’s the games first defensive style so hopefully they take feedback and implement a better moves set for the next defensive style I wanna see one more catered to blocking long range shots or just shots in general

[fresh dune]

Maybe one with chasedown block

[dusty dagger]

I wanna see moves made for when the ball is on the ground like a dive grab or something

[fresh dune]

That would be cool yeah

I hope they give akashi style justice since one of his strengths is his insane defense

[dusty dagger]

hopefully he doesn’t give Akashi the Kaiser treatment and just makes him a broken mess

[maiden sparrow]

before someone said me about unblocable passes,

i didn't even knew what m2 passes can be blocked so easy

[fresh dune]

They really shouldnt make a higher tier than mythic tbh

[hollow kernel]

I think pump fake passing should be interceptible like normal passes but not blocked

[fresh dune]

I agree with the limited styles and maybe comes in rotations

[dusty dagger]

I’ve been saying this from jump our rarity system is fine as is

[fresh dune]

But having a higher tier will just make everyone use it

Idk how they will handle the power creep but i hope its not an insane jump

[tulip gyro]

there are 2 ways I guess. first is turn off fake move on a while to get time to fix this. Second variation is do nothing.

[paper dawn]

the major problem is the fact that when pump fake passing has no downsides

whats even the need for a normal pass

why even add pass blocking at that point

its far to abusable needs some sort of a rework or downsides

so both passes

are viable

in different

situations

[wild lark]

i agree

i haven’t done a normal pass at all since i found out about it

[candid thicket]

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[candid thicket]

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[full kraken]

bump

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[ornate totem]

bump

[high quiver]

Stop helping the trash look good nerf pump fake pass 🙏

[fresh dune]

Yall are hilarious

[ornate totem]

just try playing a game without pumpassing

youl see how much skill it takes

[high quiver]

More fun aswell

[ornate totem]

Bump

[ornate totem]

Bump

[ornate totem]

Bump

[ornate totem]

bump

[hollow kernel]

Idk if this is just me but I can intercept pump fake passes did chrollo fix it?

[ornate totem]

intercept is a thing if they are passing far enough

blocking and intercepting in close range is never possible

[autumn cape]

You don't gotta remove it fully tho, just make it blockable if you're between the pass receiver and the passer, so there's actual RISK to it

[night thistle]

lets go

[hasty hinge]

pumpfake passes are fun to do but awful to go up against

honestly i just use it so my passes have a higher arc

i dont think it should be a feature at all

if you have to use a specific style to counter a universal feature then its not balanced

honestly a feature where you can hold the pass button so your passes have a higher arc is much better than just pumpfake passing 9 times out of 10

[wintry lagoon]

id have to agree with this being dumb. having a completely unblockable pass is just stupid, especially if u know how to abuse it and how it works instead of unintentionally doing it.

[hasty hinge]

it almost has no downside tbh

if youre passing to the right people it has ZERO downsides whatsoever

defense in general is already awful in this game and pumpfake passing kinda puts it even closer to its grave

[summer cypress]

5 phantoms just pumpfake passing goes crazy

[wintry lagoon]

and honestly it wouldnt even be much of an issue if u could steal during a pumpfake but no u get iframes during a pumpfake as well as passing being unblockable.

[summer cypress]

nah defense in this game isn't bad, its easy once u get used to it
but even once you get good at defense pumpfake passing is basically impossible to do anything about

if you dont have a lock you're cooked

[hasty hinge]

thing is

[summer cypress]

pumpfake passing is like the ONLY THING that is difficult to defend immo

[hasty hinge]

defense isnt bad at all

but compared to how absurd the offense is

defense vs offense is like coughing baby vs hydrogen bomb

[summer cypress]

outside of pumpfake passing what do u mean by absurd offense

because theres like only one or two things that i can imagine are hard to defend against atm

[wind prism]

defending a flash player 💔

[summer cypress]

though my opinion dont really count cuz i play tf out of this game so its probably different

[hasty hinge]

im talking about

general defense not style specific

[summer cypress]

?

are u having a hard time blocking shots?

is that what you mean

[hasty hinge]

no i dont

but the thing is

when handling the ball you have like 80 thousand different options as well as mobility

while defenders get two janky options at best

[summer cypress]

that might just be a me thing then cuz i do not have a hard time defending

the thiings that are hardest to defend for me is a flash player that actually knows how to use dash and giant (not counting pumpfake passing rn)

[hasty hinge]

no the defense is viable when used right

it just takes much more effort compared to handling the ball and back dribbling 3 times to get to a separate address

[ornate totem]

the thing that people are abusing is simply running down the court and just clicking left and right click at once to fade and immdiatly pass. it literally looks and works exaclty like a normal pass just not blockable or interceptable at close range

[ornate totem]

defense is usless againts a good offense currently

[opaque merlin]

Bump

[ornate totem]

Bump

[ornate totem]

bannana

banana is the new bump

[tacit pollen]

bump

[ornate totem]

bump

Pump Fake Passing Has Removed Skillful Gameplay

[ornate totem]

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[shell rapids]

defense is finally fixed

thank God for perfection

[fresh dune]

The fact you would rather have this kind of gameplay rather than pump pass tells me more than enough i need to know

[shell rapids]

chill dude

perfection made this game perfect

also did they buff intercepting pump fake passes lol

[fresh dune]

Perfection is literally ruining the game 😂

Everyone has it

3pts are almost unusable with evreryone using blink

[shell rapids]

yeah

bro should change this suggestion name

pump fake passing has stolen my kids and now hold them for ransom

[shell rapids]

i mean isnt that a good thing

[fresh dune]

Nah, its making offense unfun

Chrollo already said the main theme of the game is that its meant to be easy to score

Well now its impossible lmao

[shell rapids]

yeah ur right

wait did you agree to this suggestion btw

[hasty hinge]

he did

[fresh dune]

I did

[hasty hinge]

im pretty sure lol

[fresh dune]

And now rather than dealing with unblockable passes

Now people have to deal with 5 blink users

So playable

[shell rapids]

we did it guys

defense is fixed

[errant relic]

The fake shot with the pass is cool but pump fake passes are annoying-

[fresh dune]

Yeah thats what ive been doing

[hasty hinge]

indeed

[fresh dune]

And youd rather get blocked with every shot you do right

😂😂😂

[hasty hinge]

universal unblockable pass

totally great

[shell rapids]

wait

does blink block quick release 3

have we also solved the sniper buff crisis

we did it guys

[fresh dune]

Blink blocks everything

Like

Everything

Including long range passes

[errant relic]

I mean- I don’t get blocked when I do that…

[fresh dune]

Do you play on 3v3 or pro server

[errant relic]

3v3

[shell rapids]

ngl i thought that pro servers would be higher level lmao

[errant relic]

Right?

[shell rapids]

no one's doing pump fake passes in my server

[fresh dune]

Have you gone against a good team full of perfection

[errant relic]

Yes.

[fresh dune]

Because thats more toxic than everything

[shell rapids]

they should add elite servers for lvl 50+s

[errant relic]

I hate it too

[shell rapids]

spam 2s and hope you have 50% more field goals

[fresh dune]

Bump

[fresh dune]

Thats legit what ive been doing

Dunks

[shell rapids]

crazy

[fresh dune]

Until i know everyone used their blink

[shell rapids]

blink distance needs to be nerfed bro

[fresh dune]

I dont even think perfection is the issue here

The issue is

EVERYONE HAS IT

[shell rapids]

yes

in that case

style bans

Sometimes, my genius frightens me.

[fresh dune]

Idk how that would work tho

[shell rapids]

idk, make an actual server system lmao

[fresh dune]

Cuz what if people only have 1 style slot

Are they forced to use clutch

[shell rapids]

clutch yes

clutch is lowkey cracked trust

[fresh dune]

Thats stupid😭

Forcing people to play on clutch is nuts

I dont think style bans will be a thing

[shell rapids]

better than facing 4 perfections 😭

[shell rapids]

if someone makes a good enough concept it would be implemented maybe

ive only seen 2 suggestions actually get added

1 was for the discord server, the other was something that was originally planned to be added

[fresh dune]

Maybe Ranked will have its own balancing system where perfection has more reduced ranged and longer cd

Whatever the meta is for season 1, that will get nerfed heavily

Then season 2 will have a new meta

[shell rapids]

lets see if the game survives long enough for it 🙏

is there any info for ranked

[fresh dune]

Its releasing next week thats all i know

They said theyre prioritizing balancing styles in preparation for it

[shell rapids]

man i wonder why they dont release info in advance for better feedback

[fresh dune]

So expect a massive nerf to perfection

[shell rapids]

they just need to make the game unplayable first lmao

[fresh dune]

I just think blink needs to be nerfed even more

Why are people getting rewarded for playing bad defense

[shell rapids]

has anyone even made a decent perfection nerf suggestion

[fresh dune]

Not really

Theyre either denying to nerf perfection or nerfing perfection to the ground

Neither are goo

good

[shell rapids]

if only there was someone sensible enough to make a decent suggestion 🤨

[hasty hinge]

i dont have an issue against one perfection user

its just that

theyre everywhere rn

but i do agree that it definitely needs nerfs

[shell rapids]

how many times have you said this bro 😭

just make a copypaste at this point

[hasty hinge]

im too lazy

[shell rapids]

wdym ur too lazy

youve said that line like 10 times

just make a copy paste

[hasty hinge]

nuh uh

i will remain a broken record

[shell rapids]

https://tenor.com/view/ishowspeed-gif-9073946004846392544

[hasty hinge]

that is my purpose

[shell rapids]

anyway, style bans dont seem likely, as the possibility of server lists has been vehemently ruled out by a certain self-proclaimed matchmaking extraordinaire

onto the next brainrot game

[hasty hinge]

mans is talking exquisitely

[shell rapids]

of indubitable elocution

[fresh dune]

Bro has reached peak literature

Truly perfect

[shell rapids]

some might even say... perfection

[hasty hinge]

say that again

[shell rapids]

erm

perfection?

https://tenor.com/view/cell-perfect-cell-hyper-realistic-hyper-realistic-cell-hyper-realistic-perfect-cell-gif-1635843172149104674

[tall temple]

in this case i don't think that the number of posts depends on the size of the problem. Every second player who plays the game for at least two weeks will agree with the author of the post

[high quiver]

werent u the one that said intercept whats the problem now

[fresh dune]

Please tell me how intercept can help you against 5 blink users gng

[high quiver]

u said use intercept to counter pump pass

now we got blink

[hasty hinge]

pumpfake passing is a stupid addition yeah but that doesnt really stop blink from being an annoying move

[shell rapids]

perfection made every other problem in the game trivial now it's balanced

[hasty hinge]

absolute cinema

[high quiver]

Couldn’t of said it Better myself

[fresh dune]

Lmao i said play defense if theyre doing the close range pump pass, and if theyre passing far then just hope your teamates are doing their job and intercepting

Blink solves none of that

It rewards people for playing bad defense

And to make matters worse

EVERYONE HAS IT

Pump passes was counterable if youre good enough but going against multiple blink users punishes you for being better at offense

In what world is that better than pump passes😂

[misty dock]

Lowk agree

It’s so annoying cuz there’s nothing u can do

[high quiver]

isnt that the same with pump passing it rewards bad players so they cant be interuppted

contradicting at its finest

[fresh dune]

Bro you're not even listening at this point, with pump passes, you can still counter it since they will have to shoot it at some point. Blink however you cant counter that at all, no matter how good your offense is, as long as theres a blink user even slightly nearby then they will block it

Youre hard riding pump passes since you dont know how to defend it

Blink has no counterplay

[high quiver]

there is

[fresh dune]

What do you not get

[high quiver]

called sitting in the back line waiting for the counter

ive seen it and done it

[fresh dune]

How are you gonna go to the back right away while being blocked

[high quiver]

your tm sits in the back for the rebound

ull get it back everytime

[fresh dune]

Okay and now you gotta do that 5 more times

Explain to me how that is fun at all

[high quiver]

i could say the same thing with pump passing

how is it fun

to casually pass the ball without no disrupts if they dont got counters

[fresh dune]

Because you can steal it with jackpot steal/Snatch block/ stars high jump

And you can also play defense because they still have to score

[high quiver]

jackpot steal is buns be real

[fresh dune]

No way you said jackpot steal is buns

[cedar harness]

It was never easy to score since the release cause of the skilled star players and then gaint and then lock and then jackpot and then copycat and then now cause of perfection

[high quiver]

u can see it from a mile away

only time it works is for long animations like athelethic fade and sniper shot

[fresh dune]

Alright now i know you dont play comp

[high quiver]

yea ik u can try to take the ball mid shot

[fresh dune]

Before perfection was released, jackpot was everywhere

[high quiver]

boohoo thats a easy counter

[fresh dune]

And for a reason

[fresh dune]

Theres way more to it than that

[cedar harness]

Hear me out instead of it stealing the ball making it so it guarteed knocks the ball out of their hands away from you meaning if you go north the ball will go south and in then in ult if you land jackpot you will steal it

[fresh dune]

yeah u dont know the techs

[high quiver]

yea jackpot was good for its time

copy cat is far beyond jackpot if the player knows what hes doing

[fresh dune]

Copy cat is only reliable on the dribble move

The copy ability is too rng

Jackpot is the more safer option

[high quiver]

how so

depends on what your copying

[fresh dune]

Like i said too rng

[cedar harness]

Hey about this we remove jackpot and perfection and give 10 lucky spins for the flow of jackpot and then another 10 for the style and then 20 for the style of perfection and then another ten for the zone

[shell rapids]

okay thats pretty funny since jp is supposed to be risky

[cedar harness]

Gaint was the all rounder before Jackpot came along

[fresh dune]

Jackpot steal is broken when timed right

Lucky bounce is also broken as it can only be stopped by lock

And lock is easy to counter

Dont even get me started on the awakening

[cedar harness]

Tbh the most balanced style in the game in ult and base is clutch

[high quiver]

ive countered lucky pass with snatch block plenty of times

matter of fact its free ash

[cedar harness]

^

[high quiver]

the ball moves slower with the lucky pass

[fresh dune]

To this day i think jackpot has a more broken awakening than perfection

Due to the techs

[high quiver]

i will agree with that

[fresh dune]

Lucky pull is broken

Lucky shot is broken

And the tech with jackpot

I dont even care if i get nothing from it

[high quiver]

lucky shot can be blocked

[fresh dune]

Thats not what i use it for

[high quiver]

with no moves

[cedar harness]

Yeah when you land jackpot

[brittle pilot]

w explanation

[cedar harness]

Hear me out perfect nerf to perfection is make it blink does not come off cooldown when you ult

[fresh dune]

Skilled users dont use it on normal possesion

[brittle pilot]

i feel like the mixup of pumpfake passing is enough deterrent

to bait out blocks

it shouldnt be unblockable

[fresh dune]

They either use it at beginning or when wide open

Guess what

[brittle pilot]

yeah nobody is blocking lucky shot

[fresh dune]

Blink counters that now

[brittle pilot]

unless the jackpot is an idiot

[cedar harness]

Thing is jackpot shot move is balanced

[cedar harness]

^

[brittle pilot]

blinks range isnt THAT large tho

lucky shot is perfectly fine

[high quiver]

been nerfed to

could use another nerf

[brittle pilot]

yeah its not like they can blink it off the inbound

or naything

[high quiver]

cuz u can take the ball mid air

[fresh dune]

You can really only use it at full court now

[brittle pilot]

true

but i think its more or less balanced now

[fresh dune]

Its too risky to shoot any threes at the current state of the game

[brittle pilot]

i think that might have been the point

threes are very braindead

nobody shoots twos

maybe this will encourage that

and dunks and layups

[high quiver]

could be encouraging people to do 3s

2s*

[brittle pilot]

yeah

[fresh dune]

Introducing a problem to fix a problem is not the way to do things😭

[brittle pilot]

thats very true

[void axle]

Honestly just add a stupid minigame for it

[brittle pilot]

if that was the goal they couldve done it way better

i say just lower the chances of a three

[fresh dune]

I hope they balance out perfection when ranked comes out

[brittle pilot]

regular threes can be 70% and fadeaways can be 50%

[fresh dune]

Im not trying to go against top rankers using cell every time

[brittle pilot]

or osmething

[brittle pilot]

real

[high quiver]

3-5 perfections is not it

[fresh dune]

I have a feeling they will fix the perfection problem with a more broken style

Then we will start going down a hill

Til the only way to fix things is by releasing more broken styles

[brittle pilot]

yeah

rn perfection is like kunigami

[void axle]

Remove chrollo before he turns this game to blr

[brittle pilot]

imo

once the equivalent of nel isagi comes out everyone will riot

[fresh dune]

They should fr atleast make it so that its harder to obtain

[void axle]

God man pisses me off so much

[brittle pilot]

i feel like that would be even worse tho

cuz then very few people would have it

[fresh dune]

We got alts getting perfection how is that worse😭

[brittle pilot]

and that would be all the high ranks

[winter flame]

I mean it’s blockable but like when are you EVER going to use it while defended if you’re smart. Just use it start of play second it’s passed to you and boom free 3. Every time

[brittle pilot]

nah cuz

then when it ends