nerf ace

[charred trail]

And then he have long cd

[drifting prism]

Athletic Fade is blockable, its all based on direction and timing. Its easier to block Athletic Fade w Flash.

[charred trail]

Free points abilities for long cd

[drifting prism]

Off personal experience as a Flash user, I have never not blocked an Athletic Fade once I learned how to.

[charred trail]

And remember that he can double use athletic drive

When he awaken after one use

And people say he's trash

[flint jungle]

how?

[drifting prism]

The Athletic Fade goes the opposite direction of its first step. So if the first step goes to the left, the shot goes to the right and vice versa. With Flash, if you haven't already used your "Dash" move, you can immediately move in front of the shot to block it.

I try to advocate that Flash is better than Ace

And when people disagree I try proving my point in a game against an Ace user.

[oak sundial]

Ace is the best noob stomper style

[flint jungle]

ty

[drifting prism]

You can block it without Flash as well

Just takes a certain amount of skill and movement

[drifting prism]

Ace is the most braindead style

[oak sundial]

Athletic fade easy asl to block it's funny asl

[drifting prism]

Exactly

[oak sundial]

I'd say it's jackpot

It has a built in phantom pass

[drifting prism]

Jackpot lwk make me mad

[drifting prism]

At least Lock can block that

in fact that needs to be nerfed

[oak sundial]

Everytime I see one in my server it ruins my mood

[drifting prism]

same here

real quick

do you know the Sound ID for the Adolla Link?

[oak sundial]

No

[drifting prism]

fawk manee

[near grail]

ace just pmo bro idc if its made up for "long cooldowns" bc the fact he can do that at all is dumb

[drifting prism]

js run Flash if u mad abt the Athletic Fade

swear i be humbling people w that Dash move

[oak sundial]

Or use star

Star leap can almost block anything

[near grail]

i shouldnt need to run a specific character just to deal with one character

[drifting prism]

or understand the mechanics behind Athletic Fade

again you can block it without Flash

its js easier to do that w Flash

[oak sundial]

Even without flash it's easy

[drifting prism]

exactly

[near grail]

but honestly why can ace even do that me and my friend in a ps testing how far ace can go with just the 3 dribbles and abilities and he can go half the court

[drifting prism]

most of the time you end up running in the direction they're shooting for

[near grail]

and keep in mind u cant even steal the ball during that

[oak sundial]

Then don't steal the ball

[near grail]

no not being able to steal the ball isnt the problem, its the fact he can go half the court without punishment is whats concerning

[crystal radish]

Ace isn't balanced, infact it's bad

[near grail]

ace can dribble up half the court and keep in mind the dribble move makes him faster than running normally

[frail stirrup]

So what do you want to do about it?

[near grail]

fym "what do i wanna do about it" i cant do anything about it all i can do is leave a suggestion

[frail stirrup]

Yeah, so what are you suggesting they do?

[near grail]

probably make the dribble move not make you as fast, and give the shot move more wind up time

[oak sundial]

That would render ace useless

Making athletic fade any slower would ruin it

[near grail]

athletic fade is the dribble or the shot move

[frail stirrup]

I think making it a little slower would be fine considering it’s the fastest dribble in game rn, but at the end of the day it is a mythic. So if you were to nerf his mobility you’d need to buff his shooting options

[oak sundial]

U seriously need to play against ace more

[frail stirrup]

Probably

[oak sundial]

Once u get the hang of it it's easy to counter

[frail stirrup]

Well I know that, I’m just trying to be neutral instead of taking a side.

[near grail]

the only reason i think the move should be slower is bc it lasts 10 years, is a dribble move, and makes u faster than running without the ball

[frail stirrup]

Hmm

[crystal radish]

You realize

[oak sundial]

I don't agree the ace should get a buff or a nerf

[near grail]

like honestly it should just be like slightly faster than it

[oak sundial]

But I'd rather have it reworked

[near grail]

realize what

[frail stirrup]

If it was gonna get it reworked, it’d probably be like 3rd in line

[oak sundial]

Rn ace is boring to play

[near grail]

and boring to fight

[frail stirrup]

I don’t use it, but I could see that happening

[oak sundial]

I like playing against them js for the easy blocks lmfao

[crystal radish]

You realize flash is way better than ace

It got no offense capability

And it's only shooting move can easily get countered

[drifting prism]

Ace is all offense no defensive

[drifting prism]

I agree with this ten times

[drifting prism]

By Flash easily or even if you know how to space yourself

[crystal radish]

Or by giant or jackpot

[tulip forum]

If u think ace needs a nerf just uninstall the game 😭

[glass crane]

ace sucks

[late niche]

Hi

[solemn grove]

bro

you suck

[true coral]

but the jump after flash is slowed

after dash*

or i guess i might have been using dash+steal then jump

since even dash doesnt seem close enough

[near grail]

mfs defending ace rn are ppl who play him

[true coral]

i play flash

i don't think one of the best attackers if not the best in the anime needs a nerf

if you're good you can score three times over while ace is on cooldown

if anything bro needs a buff

[sullen zinc]

ace is like most predictable style beside sniper

[drifting prism]

exactly

[drifting prism]

jump first then dash.