Buff Unbreakable , Balancing changes to Lock

[radiant tapir]

have you not seen how speed dribbler works?? the dude could literally travel half a court in 3 dribbles with how far it covers due to the buff

[drifting bone]

Imma probably roll for it later

[analog nexus]

its not that fast

[radiant tapir]

keep in mind it increases dribble distance but NOT on ball speed

[drifting bone]

Yeah

[low fern]

yeah its a great zone ima be honest, i think its fine

[radiant tapir]

well it kinda does increases on ball speed but it mainly focuses on dribble distance

[drifting bone]

I saw a clip of a guy at the hoop and getting to the three point line in less than like 2 seconds

[radiant tapir]

maybe a little bit tone down to epic but i think its alright rhe way it is

[radiant tapir]

its so free

[low fern]

ehh its fine as leg imo since its way better than dime and lockdown

[radiant tapir]

true

[analog nexus]

buff unbreakable tho

[radiant tapir]

this i agree with

if it doesnt do anything other than let u unable to be ankle broken thats not it

[drifting bone]

How do you upgrade “no ankle breaks”?

[radiant tapir]

its js a defensive version of posterizer

[versed moat]

THERE IS NO WAY YOU'RE SAYING BUFF SPEED DRIBBLER

[radiant tapir]

honestly just needs to be brought down but if you want to keep it mythic atleast add some more defensive buffs

[drifting bone]

We already dealt with it

[radiant tapir]

such as lesser steal cd or more steal hitbox

its lowkey

like

[drifting bone]

More steal range

[radiant tapir]

how do i call this

LACKING

if ur js gonna have that as a mythic zone

[analog nexus]

yeah thats what im saying

[radiant tapir]

when u can js AVOID stealing during dribbles

[versed moat]

no trust me the steal hitbox is already large enough

[radiant tapir]

yeah

[versed moat]

decreased steal cd similar to lockdown would be good

[radiant tapir]

its large sure but is there even gonna be use to a defensive zone if ur not even gonna give anything other than being unable to be ankle broken

MIND YOU

its mythic zone

were expecting more man

except

posterizer

sucks

badly

[analog nexus]

yeah buff posterizer

3 point inflation holding it back

[radiant tapir]

legendary zones going 3/3 while mythic going 2/4 like its not real

[drifting bone]

Extra dunk range

[versed moat]

the fact you can just defend someone by making their dribbles useless and try to steal at any moment without drawbacks and just waiting for them to shoot or be patient with pump fakes is something

[radiant tapir]

probably?? people dont even focus in 2 pointers

[analog nexus]

for 2 points? nah im good

quick draw lowkey better

[drifting bone]

How else do you buff a dunk related zone?

[versed moat]

I haven't played with it yet though, although in theory it sounds alright

[analog nexus]

make it legendary lol

too bad to be mythical

[versed moat]

just playing against street dribble earlier really made me question wth did they do wrong with this update though

[drifting bone]

You mean speed dribble?

[radiant tapir]

its a pretty mighty defensive concept i get you but honestly even if you dont get ankle broken you still wont have the ball so i dont really get it, nothing to lose and nothing gained basically, some skills also already render this useless, (snatch block sky leap removing ang possible offense options, intercept steals passes) like id even rather get lockdown than unbreakable

[versed moat]

yeah my fault

[radiant tapir]

it just feels like its

super lacking

its something

[versed moat]

if you don't steal, you won't get ankle broken

[radiant tapir]

but its lacking

for the hype that its MYTHIC

[radiant tapir]

exactly

[low fern]

speed dribble is lowkey like flash’s dash when your tryna score, its kinda op lol

[radiant tapir]

so i dont see its use

[analog nexus]

when u steal u lunge forward and cant recover in time anyways

[versed moat]

can you edit the post name to buff unbreakable and nerf speed dribble btw 🙏

[radiant tapir]

genuinely

[analog nexus]

Buff Unbreakable

[radiant tapir]

(theres mad endlag too)

[radiant tapir]

it covers like .75 of flash’s dash move per dribble its so dumb 😭😭😭

[drifting bone]

This isn’t mine but I’m gonna use it to show how much distance this zone eats up

[analog nexus]

yeah thats what i meant by recovery time

[versed moat]

I mean having that flow will give you the confidence to punish those slight gaps in their dribble patterns

I feel like that makes it really good by itself

not disagreeing there should be more to its buffs though

[radiant tapir]

as i said pretty decent but it js feels a lot lacking

[versed moat]

It's a major difference

half the people don't get ankle broken because they don't even try to steal

you'll feel forced to dribble or else you get cooked

[radiant tapir]

cause they need a window

honestly

heres the thing

[versed moat]

yes that makes it easier to see those windows immediately

[radiant tapir]

the flow kind of makes steal more used

i get it

[versed moat]

combined with lock, giant or even star

[radiant tapir]

cause honestly

steal has no absolute use in this game atp

run out of dribbles?

pass

its only use to me atleast

[versed moat]

play lock or giant

[radiant tapir]

is make blocking

more useful

[radiant tapir]

i play both

i have lock on my main and giant on my alt

[versed moat]

yeah so you eliminate their passing

[radiant tapir]

and giant eliminates scoring

[versed moat]

threaten a steal at all times

right

[radiant tapir]

stealing will be

useful

but say

hypothetically

said enemy has a dribbling style

flash for example

auto ankles

he could just auto ankles mr lock user and pass immediately

anything could happen

but honestly i get where youre coming from

[versed moat]

I think that at the point just goal tend with giant if that's what you're playing

[radiant tapir]

rhese two styles

[versed moat]

or let two people mark him

and as giant you can mark two people or lock can mark that guy aswell

[radiant tapir]

eliminates any other play that can make beinf exhausted skmething bad

and this zone

[analog nexus]

doesnt deserve to be mythic tho as it is

legendary at best

[radiant tapir]

can easily do somerhing in that siruation

[radiant tapir]

were over rhat

weve both decided that

[versed moat]

I don't disagree that it should have something added to it

[radiant tapir]

just that

yeah

[versed moat]

I'm just saying it's a good flow if I had another slot to use it

[radiant tapir]

but it doesnt feel like itd have a use for me

with the addition of

all these devious styles

with defense skills

even clutchs V alone is good enough

clutch V is undoubtedly one of the best defense as well

especially when steals

arent even used much

you get me

its only used as a distance closer now

you dont even steal with steal

[analog nexus]

and anyways the intercept endlag for passing is a whole 2 seconds so ez steals unless u position it

[versed moat]

only fade away passes and pump fake passes are to blame for that

[radiant tapir]

but it does fit the name rhough

unbreakable

unanle to be broken

[versed moat]

sometimes you shouldn't be marking someone and if you are then don't even let them get the ball in the first place

[radiant tapir]

fitting

[analog nexus]

also ive noticed smth(unrelated) if u pump fake hands up doesnt block the shot after the fake

[radiant tapir]

that too

[analog nexus]

prolly a bug

[scarlet shale]

No

[radiant tapir]

so in summary

in my

OPINIONS

[analog nexus]

bro lock is lowkey balanced

asf

[radiant tapir]

unbreakable

lacking

[analog nexus]

70% of the times ur intercept gonna get stolen

[radiant tapir]

its fun to use tho

[analog nexus]

other 30 is guaranteed bucket

60 40 actually

[radiant tapir]

BUFF UNBREAKABLE GRAHHH I DONT SEE A VISION WHERE I NEED IT!!!!

[analog nexus]

or move to legendary

move quickdraw to epic

remove aim assist

[radiant tapir]

honestly lock kinda needs sm patches?.. i mean hands up doesnt serve rhat much use

[radiant tapir]

hell no 😭😭💔💔

[analog nexus]

otherwise too many mythic and legendary zones

[radiant tapir]

ahmmm

probably

[analog nexus]

its mad op bro

[radiant tapir]

but thatd make game so much comp

[analog nexus]

its like a second block

[radiant tapir]

but atleast it makes 2 pointers useful now

[analog nexus]

if u jumped on the pump fake

then u can use hands up

[radiant tapir]

it still needs sm patches cs why tf can mfs steal rhe ball after u intercept 💔💔💔

[analog nexus]

cuz jump cd kinda high

[analog nexus]

dawg ru dumb

.

[radiant tapir]

its an interception of a pass

not a

short stoppage

[analog nexus]

u wanna make lock

more broken than ace?

bro

[radiant tapir]

ace isnteven rhat broken be real

[analog nexus]

if intercept cant be stolen from u basically remove passing all together

[radiant tapir]

if u use it normally its predictable if u twist rhe cam on fade its a free rhree but rhats it

[radiant tapir]

?.. buddy thats rhe point of an intercepting skill

😭😭😭😭

[analog nexus]

it is unless ur facing a giant

[analog nexus]

in fact id say nerf interception bro

[drifting bone]

Personally I think intercept just needs to not force us to pass

[radiant tapir]

to have a counterplay ESPECIALLY stupid pump fake passes that are unblockable

thats like a solid counterplay to smt u cant even stop

people cna literally

[analog nexus]

hollup didnt they patch?

that

[radiant tapir]

blitz rhe whole court

pump fake passing dribbling tgt

like theyre doing planet hotline fromblue lock

like

its not even real

intercept serves as THE only guaranteed counterplay CAUSE jackpot steal needs timing

intercept doesnt

and its well FITTING

for a pure def style

so i dont know about intercepting then having some

1 and a half sec window

of being able to be stolen

AFTER u use intercept

when its rhe purpose of intervept

[thorny flame]

i feel like intercepting is fine they just need to work on hands up a bit cus theres some stupid stuff with it

[radiant tapir]

its kinda confusing to use

[thorny flame]

its kinda funny when your intercept pass gets intercepted again

[versed moat]

he might be right

[radiant tapir]

but ull get used to it

[radiant tapir]

diamond is what

[thorny flame]

probably yeah you need to be really close for hands up to work properly i feel like

[radiant tapir]

bur yeah

this my opinion

on

intercept

if ur gonna get stolen from after u use the mere counterplay to pump fake passing

thats duuumb…

and i dont like it…

[analog nexus]

or jus nerf its range lol

[old quarry]

Faster balls would be op

[analog nexus]

so that it only works if ur on the user whose recieving the pass

that lowkey works

[analog nexus]

make it unblockable tho

[radiant tapir]

yeah generally nerf the range cause tfym dude teleports a whole flash dash worth of distance and steals the ball

💔💔💔💔

[analog nexus]

intercept global cooldown ez

[radiant tapir]

TRUE

[analog nexus]

there we go

we fixed

or atleast

'suggested'

[radiant tapir]

gave a suggestion

if theyll even read this

[analog nexus]

idk what to do with unbreakable tho

move to leg ig

[thorny flame]

i havent seen it yet but just not getting ankle breaked doesnt seem mythic worthy

[analog nexus]

weird to have a leg style with mythic zone anyways

[radiant tapir]

UNBREAKABLE SO COOKED 😭😭💔💔💔

js serves as one of those dummies that wont let u get street dribb

💔💔💔💔

[analog nexus]

thats the ONLY thing it has btw , no speed buff , no nothing

[thorny flame]

got posterizer 3 times i dont want ts 🥀

[thorny flame]

yeah that seems dump

dumb

legendary or epic maybe

but not mythic

considering 777 can give you all of the above basically

[radiant tapir]

50 lucky spins 0 mythics what r we doing rn chat?

[analog nexus]

crazy how street dribble the only valid mythic

777 speedbuff fast asf tho

but thats 1/3 🥀

[thorny flame]

i mean yeah its gambling

[analog nexus]

chuck feels like a budget jackpot

[thorny flame]

it really is

[analog nexus]

the ult is horrible bro

even clutch has a guaranteed 3

[thorny flame]

the only guaruanteed thing in that kit is the shooting move in his base i think

and thats basically js sniper retextured

[analog nexus]

worst ult

thank god its rare now

[thorny flame]

id rather use clutch honestly

[analog nexus]

bro the windup is even more than perfect arc 💀

chuck is cooked

[thorny flame]

it is? i thought it was the same 😭

whats even the range on that move

is it half court too

[analog nexus]

its a worse perfect arc

and perfect arc already trash

cuz players learning how 2 block

[thorny flame]

yeah perfect arc is very specific use case

because if anyone is around you youre cooked

[analog nexus]

btw which route is this subaru from

[thorny flame]

i think its just normal subaru but im not sure

[analog nexus]

if no one around u its like the best move

[thorny flame]

doesnt look like a specific route

[analog nexus]

looks like

wrath

idk why

wrath subaru was on demon time

[thorny flame]

he usually wears the kimono thingy in fanarts so idk

[analog nexus]

nah wait no dark circles

[analog nexus]

scarf

[thorny flame]

i like quick release way more

has legit never been blocked when i used it

but its 2 points so

[thorny flame]

yeah that too

[analog nexus]

quick release goated

a worse post mode

but its legendary so u cant comlain

aight im closing this thread

Buff Unbreakable , Balancing changes to Lock