He’s saying giant and ace are legendaries compared to jackpot💔🐶
#Buff Ace
obsidian lantern
tawny flower
Athletic Fade is the best shot in the game except for midorima ult but that doesn't make it the best ability in the game
stiff wolf
not when pump faking
plus regular passing is predicable
bro this guy is just a jp player
💔
cinder umbra
plus regular passing is predicable
u dont know how to fake shot then pass? 💔💔
stiff wolf
u dont know how to fake shot then pass? 💔💔
are you dumb?
jackpot can steal that
do you even play the game???
tawny flower
u dont know how to fake shot then pass? 💔💔
That can still get intercepted and stolen by jackpot
hardy vigil
u dont know how to fake shot then pass? 💔💔
thats blockable btw
cinder umbra
thats blockable btw
its not
hardy vigil
it is u can block passes
cinder umbra
fym
stiff wolf
Jackpot can steal any pumpfake
tawny flower
it is u can block passes
Try pump fake then pass and see if u get blocked
cinder umbra
are you dumb?
fake shot passes are unblockable buddy 💔
stiff wolf
Try pump fake then pass and see if u get blocked
not blocked but stolen
cinder umbra
do u play the game 🥀
tawny flower
not blocked but stolen
Yes I know I'm agreeing with you
stiff wolf
fake shot passes are unblockable buddy 💔
JACKPOT CAN TAKE IT WITH HIS STEAL???
hardy vigil
Try pump fake then pass and see if u get blocked
u can literally block any pass in the game
u gotta time it
except phantoms
tawny flower
u can literally block any pass in the game
U can't block pump passes if u pump then pass within 2 seconds
cinder umbra
JACKPOT CAN TAKE IT WITH HIS STEAL???
Not while ur faking a shot
tawny flower
Neither of them play the game
obsidian lantern
except phantoms
And lucky pass
stiff wolf
Fake shot pass is unblockable buddy
yes no dip
honest palm
And lucky pass
I saw people intercept lucky pass, either that or I just got confused
stiff wolf
but as you pump fake
hardy vigil
U can't block pump passes if u pump then pass within 2 seconds
I can I js gotta jump and its getting blocked and if I got the Jump cd my m8 can block him its not hard
stiff wolf
jackpot can steal it
hardy vigil
And lucky pass
yea
tawny flower
Fake shot pass is unblockable buddy
R u aware that jackot has an ability called 'Lucky Steal'?
cinder umbra
but as you pump fake
were not talking abt pumpfake 💔
tawny flower
I can I js gotta jump and its getting blocked and if I got the Jump cd my m8 ca...
U literally can't why are you lying 💔
obsidian lantern
I saw people intercept lucky pass, either that or I just got confused
Nah it do be buggy tho, like just drops the ball on the floor when you use it sometimes
tawny flower
were not talking abt pumpfake 💔
🤣
hardy vigil
U literally can't why are you lying 💔
did u try it?
cinder umbra
obviously he can steal that but not fake shot passes
stiff wolf
were not talking abt pumpfake 💔
JACKPOT CAN STEAL EVERYTHING ARE YOU DUMB
tawny flower
did u try it?
Yes?????????????????
stiff wolf
DO YOU PLAY THIS GAME???
cinder umbra
JACKPOT CAN STEAL EVERYTHING ARE YOU DUMB
stop yelling buddy ur not tuff 😭
stiff wolf
I PLAYED 3 JACKPOTS AND EVERYTHING WAS STOLEN??
stiff wolf
stop yelling buddy ur not tuff 😭
I'm making my letters bigger because you obviously cannot see right
honest palm
Nah it do be buggy tho, like just drops the ball on the floor when you use it so...
Yeah, it happens with Athletic fade too, you use it and the ball just doesn't shoot and instead falls on the ground
tawny flower
@hardy vigil prove u can block pump passes dm me a private server
obsidian lantern
JACKPOT CAN STEAL EVERYTHING ARE YOU DUMB
Jackpot never stole a ball from me, you’re just horrible at the game, it take literally 10 iq to predict them
cinder umbra
I'm making my letters bigger because you obviously cannot see right
I’ve never seen jackpot steal a fake shot pass bro 😭
i’ve literally seen it
loud mesa
Jackpot never stole a ball from me, you’re just horrible at the game, it take li...
lmao you’re one to speak
cinder umbra
he got ankle breaked
stiff wolf
Jackpot never stole a ball from me, you’re just horrible at the game, it take li...
you don't play the game
as soon as you pump fake
the balls taken
are we serious rn
I'm getting rage baited
rn
I'm done
💔
obsidian lantern
passing exists you dumb bozo 💔🐶
cinder umbra
the balls taken
no its never taken 😎
stiff wolf
passing exists you dumb bozo 💔🐶
dude not even tryna put effort into his rage bait now
tawny flower
passing exists you dumb bozo 💔🐶
You've never played the game before
loud mesa
You've never played the game before
literally
obsidian lantern
Yeah, it happens with Athletic fade too, you use it and the ball just doesn't sh...
Yeah, just a bug probably
obsidian lantern
dude not even tryna put effort into his rage bait now
nah it’s just funny seeing giant users coping
loud mesa
nah it’s just funny seeing giant users coping
same can be said with jackpot users bud💔✌🏾
obsidian lantern
ive used all mythics, they all on the same tier, I can argue with flash and star being on that tier too
stiff wolf
ive used all mythics, they all on the same tier, I can argue with flash and star...
Jackpot cope
holy moly
obsidian lantern
how’s this considered as coping 💔
stiff wolf
Jackpot users aren't allowed opinions on any style btw
obsidian lantern
someone’s mad he didn’t pull jackpot
stiff wolf
someone’s mad he didn’t pull jackpot
Jackpot users aren't allowed opinions on any style btw
obsidian lantern
cope
versed flicker
What even is the context of this atp
stiff wolf
What even is the context of this atp
Rage bait
obsidian lantern
harder for me
stiff wolf
harder for me
Jackpot users aren't allowed opinions on any style btw
ur replies just bump this suggestion btw 🫡
obsidian lantern
someone with 2 braincells won’t take it seriously but oki
stiff wolf
someone with 2 braincells won’t take it seriously but oki
Jackpot users aren't allowed opinions on any style btw
obsidian lantern
someone’s mad he didn’t pull jackpot
stiff wolf
someone’s mad he didn’t pull jackpot
Jackpot users aren't allowed opinions on any style btw
versed flicker
Mf keeps saying rage bait yet he's getting rage baited
obsidian lantern
ong
versed flicker
Ace don't need a buff
hidden furnace
Yea he do
obsidian lantern
ts got me cackling
tepid mango
he’s fine
versed flicker
It's guardable but when use right op
tepid mango
he’s good for starters to use he’s just not very good in comp
versed flicker
Ace shouldn't get buffed but be relegated to legendary
hidden furnace
Na he needs a uff
A buff
Jackpot is just brain dead ts should b world class or sum n giant got an unguardable move n a crazy blocking wit a crazy AOE
Ace fade is easily blocked I can’t count how many times I done predicted ts
Flash is better then him bro😭😭
solemn pilot
Jackpot is just brain dead ts should b world class or sum n giant got an unguard...
the blocking got nerfed, and the post ability is blockable?
obsidian lantern
the only valid buff id see is probably just a lil speed boost for his dribble move
hidden furnace
the blocking got nerfed, and the post ability is blockable?
it’s not blockable if he goes for a dunk what
Only his post fade is hlockable l
solemn pilot
it’s not blockable if he goes for a dunk what
.... yk when hes using the post if u jump, he has to go shoot instead of a dunk right?
hidden furnace
If he keeps going to the paint while in his move the dunk ain’t blockable
What bro
hidden furnace
If he uses his post move and keeps moving closer to the paint and he goes for a dunk ITS unblockable
The only time it’s blockable is wen he fadeaways a shot
solemn pilot
If he uses his post move and keeps moving closer to the paint and he goes for a ...
if hes using the POST on you and u jump, it auto makes him go for a shot
hidden furnace
His dunk ain’t blockable what are u talking about
hidden furnace
if hes using the POST on you and u jump, it auto makes him go for a shot
Fr ?
solemn pilot
Ace still garbage compared to them
theres a trick of a fadeway shot thats literally unblockable if u do it right
i saw an ace user do it
haughty dust
Ace still garbage compared to them
It’s not that bad bro
solemn pilot
all styles got like sly tricks that are amazing
hidden furnace
theres a trick of a fadeway shot thats literally unblockable if u do it rig...
I’ve never seen the trick n everytime an ace uses fade on me i block it
solemn pilot
people just dk how to use it
haughty dust
I’ve never seen the trick n everytime an ace uses fade on me i block it
Bc most people are predictable with the style
They always js press v c
obsidian lantern
Ace still garbage compared to them
worst mythic? sure but definitely not garbage
solemn pilot
I’ve never seen the trick n everytime an ace uses fade on me i block it
people most of the time use a fadeway when they're at the 3 pointer line, use fadeway when ur far way from the line so that u shoot when ur at it
hidden furnace
Flash is easily better then ace n it’s a legendary
obsidian lantern
flash should’ve been a mythic ngl
hidden furnace
I just mean like ace compared to the other mythics he ain’t allat😭
solemn pilot
flash should’ve been a mythic ngl
u can counter his base abilities if u try
hidden furnace
Like they are 100% better then him
tropic tinsel
buff ace? 😭🙏🏼
haughty dust
flash should’ve been a mythic ngl
Not cool enough
solemn pilot
it’s already op asl
nah i hear what they mean, its all because of the jackpot buff and jackpot users still want another buff which is crazy
tropic tinsel
nah i hear what they mean, its all because of the jackpot buff and jackp...
what was the buff?
solemn pilot
what was the buff?
#📝・updates
tropic tinsel
i haven’t tried it out yet
haughty dust
nah i hear what they mean, its all because of the jackpot buff and jackp...
Jackpot lowkey didn’t even need it
tropic tinsel
Jackpot lowkey didn’t even need it
kinda did
solemn pilot
Jackpot lowkey didn’t even need it
whats so crazy is the jp users instead of learning how to use their style, they go cry on ds
obsidian lantern
Jackpot lowkey didn’t even need it
tbf the steal was buns, but they buffed it too much tho
solemn pilot
ur steal was literally 50/50
the base steal? if u time it on the middle of the third dribble u steal it even when they're about to pass
tropic tinsel
tbf the steal was buns, but they buffed it too much tho
it’s that crazy? 😭🙏🏼
haughty dust
tbf the steal was buns, but they buffed it too much tho
With how good the awakening is they coulda left it
solemn pilot
its all about timing
tropic tinsel
ur awakening is only good if u hand the 777
obsidian lantern
it’s that crazy? 😭🙏🏼
The range was unnecessary
tropic tinsel
😭
subtle atlas
Mf at the end of the dribble they already at the 3 point line and they can just do that stupid triple fade away shot which unless ur already standing where their going to land ur not getting the ball and if they see u moving away from the spot than they’ll just shoot normally and ur too far to block him
tropic tinsel
The range was unnecessary
how big is it now
haughty dust
ur awakening is only good if u hand the 777
It’s a luck based style so that makes sense
tropic tinsel
the only buff ace should get is more speed to
the dribbling move
it’s way too slow and predictable
gleaming ginkgo
Mf at the end of the dribble they already at the 3 point line and they can just ...
You can block the fade away shot through prediction
tropic tinsel
^^
subtle atlas
You can block the fade away shot through prediction
As i said if ur already moved to the end point of the fade away they’ll just shoot it normally
solemn pilot
You can block the fade away shot through prediction
ive seen some creative ace users that found a leeway with that
subtle atlas
and u cant block it from their
tropic tinsel
i found a way to make it unblockable
gleaming ginkgo
As i said if ur already moved to the end point of the fade away they’ll just sho...
You can block after they started it
solemn pilot
You can block after they started it
can u not fake pump and then use ur ability?
tropic tinsel
jackpot and giant counter it so hard 😭
solemn pilot
(prolly not)
tropic tinsel
can u not fake pump and then use ur ability?
no
subtle atlas
You can block after they started it
i use giant so its easier to steal from it
hidden furnace
whats so crazy is the jp users instead of learning how to use their style, the...
Jackpot broken asl n they just buffed em
hardy vigil
bro rlly want buff ace.
hidden furnace
He should’ve been ranked way higher
subtle atlas
but yeah theres literally no reason ace should have a new ability maybe a rework but not a new ability
hidden furnace
I pray ace get a buff
subtle atlas
why
hidden furnace
Nah new ability his formless shot or sum
gleaming ginkgo
i use giant so its easier to steal from it
Even without giant, they use the move and after the second jump go in the opposite direction they went so you can block it
subtle atlas
hes literally so good
hidden furnace
He’s ok
hidden furnace
His fadeaway is blockable there ain’t no trick bro😭
Ts is blockable
No matter what you do I always block ts
tropic tinsel
unless you know all the techs anyone can shut you down 😭
hidden furnace
His only decent move is his drive
subtle atlas
maybe change it to a super reaction move instead of an automatic fade away
haughty dust
No matter what you do I always block ts
Bad players on a good style
subtle atlas
yeah fr ace has to be too damn simple to mess up tho
hidden furnace
I feel like he should get a formless shot or sum
haughty dust
Try playing ace and you’ll see it’s not that bad
tropic tinsel
this is why we need ranked matches
3v3 is the playtest
solemn pilot
3v3 is the playtest
is the 3v3 gonna be ranked?
hidden furnace
this is why we need ranked matches
Idk y 3v3 is getting added instead of ranked
tropic tinsel
is the 3v3 gonna be ranked?
“playtest”
solemn pilot
Idk y 3v3 is getting added instead of ranked
nah i hear it because imagine a 5v5 ranked
thatll be so bad
gleaming ginkgo
Ts is blockable
Easily
tropic tinsel
and 3v3 being the playtest for rank
solemn pilot
this game is gonna make me broke
gleaming ginkgo
I feel like he should get a formless shot or sum
Yes he should
hidden furnace
Look at jackpot imagine Akashi bro😭
solemn pilot
Look at jackpot imagine Akashi bro😭
i can already imagine the akashi users saying "sit" as they use their ability 💔
gleaming ginkgo
Look at jackpot imagine Akashi bro😭
I'm guessing it's gonna be 1 guaranteed block and a force ragdoll like the V of flash but better
gleaming ginkgo
i can already imagine the akashi users saying "sit" as they use their abilit...
Real 💔
Or "My orders are absolute"🥀
haughty dust
I'm guessing it's gonna be 1 guaranteed block and a force ragdoll like the V of ...
They shld js make it a passing style in base
Then in mode u actually use emperor eye
hidden furnace
Yes he should
All the others got sum cool
Ace ain’t got no stun no nun😭😭
He plain out garbage dawg
gleaming ginkgo
Then in mode u actually use emperor eye
Would be understandable
gleaming ginkgo
He plain out garbage dawg
Fax
hidden furnace
I got all 3 mythics n ion even use ace
gleaming ginkgo
I understand that choice tbh
Worst mythic
Matter of fact he's worse than star
It's horrendous
solemn pilot
worse than star is crazy
haughty dust
It's horrendous
Ace is not that bad 😭😭
solemn pilot
Ace is not that bad 😭😭
i hear they need a buff but worse than star?
haughty dust
i hear they need a buff but worse than star?
Right
Ace is a good style
It’s js not as good as the other mythics
gleaming ginkgo
worse than star is crazy
Y'all don't know the true star potential
It can block every shot in the game
gleaming ginkgo
Ace is not that bad 😭😭
Ace is that bad indeed
hardy vigil
No it doesn’t
hardy vigil
Ace is that bad indeed
Not that bad
gleaming ginkgo
No it doesn’t
It does bro I literally use it
hardy vigil
So
gleaming ginkgo
It can stop every shots
hardy vigil
?
gleaming ginkgo
If they're not cutscenes
hardy vigil
It can stop every shots
it has to be perfect
Ngl
Like you literally a star merchant
hardy vigil
Please it a brain dead style
gleaming ginkgo
Agreed
hardy vigil
No game sense to it
gleaming ginkgo
Better than ace
gleaming ginkgo
And I use star way more
gleaming ginkgo
Don’t know how but if that what you think
2 blocks and a full court quick run
hardy vigil
Yeah
gleaming ginkgo
So you can shoot
hardy vigil
You might be right
gleaming ginkgo
And go to the other side of the court
hardy vigil
Haven’t used star yet
gleaming ginkgo
No one is catching you
gleaming ginkgo
Haven’t used star yet
You should
gleaming ginkgo
K
carmine elbow
Ace does not need any buffs🥀
hardy vigil
Yes it does
carmine elbow
it auto dunks near the hoop, shot is practically un blockable, awakening allows you to get 6 points
hardy vigil
Worst of mythic
carmine elbow
Worst of mythic
More like best
carmine elbow
well i have problems with GUARDING ACE
hardy vigil
What it the worst
carmine elbow
So i think its good
carmine elbow
idk abt others, and any style is viable if u know how to use
hardy vigil
What
carmine elbow
athletic drive?
hardy vigil
I use to be a ace main
Athletic drive is useless
Just move backwards
When defending
carmine elbow
Athletic drive is useless
i ankle brakes does it
carmine elbow
When defending
They can PASS
hardy vigil
Only with noobs
carmine elbow
Or use the shot
carmine elbow
I use to be a ace main
Same
hardy vigil
Which you can block
carmine elbow
Which you can block
stars block has lil bit of late start
hardy vigil
No you don’t
carmine elbow
ace has a super fast shot
hardy vigil
Like just press the button the same time the animation for the shot does
Like what are you saying
carmine elbow
can giant change direction while blocking?
hardy vigil
Yes
carmine elbow
then ace is dogshit
carmine elbow
as a mythic, not as a legendary
carmine elbow
That why I’m now a flash main
Good 1v1 style frfr
they should promote flash to mythic ngl
hardy vigil
But the best Style In the game at passing is phantom
carmine elbow
But the best Style In the game at passing is phantom
What the sigma u on about
hardy vigil
Wdym
carmine elbow
it has 1 good move
hardy vigil
No 2
carmine elbow
phantom is bad
hardy vigil
No it not
carmine elbow
If you are not a ball hog it the best style In the game
For assisting yes
not for aanything else
legendary maxx
carmine elbow
midorima and phantom should switch positions
hardy vigil
Yeah
carmine elbow
and?
hardy vigil
100%
hardy vigil
Phantom is way better than jackpot
carmine elbow
okay ig
violet socket
Phantom is way better than jackpot
that sm cap
pallid vector
So i think its good
what exactly is your problem
to be clear either way its a skill issue
but i want to help you get rid of that issue
hardy vigil
to be clear either way its a skill issue
Yeah @carmine elbow @violet socket
violet socket
what is cuh pinging me for 😭
im js saying that jackpot has a unblockable pass move that can be used WHILE you have the ball
instead of using it only when recieving the ball
hardy vigil
So does phantom
loud mesa
that sm cap
bro js rage baiting
pallid vector
if you're gonna spin em
xd
I'm asking Shenanigans why he has trouble guarding Ace
hardy vigil
are you ragebaiting
How
pallid vector
Jackpot is highkey number 1 style in the game rn
hardy vigil
Just saying my opinion
pallid vector
ask any scrim player
hardy vigil
Jackpot is highkey number 1 style in the game rn
Cap
hardy vigil
Let me show you the proof
pallid vector
I'm convinced you're bad
hardy vigil
pallid vector
Let me show you the proof
There is not a single piece of evidence you could show me that could convince me that Phantom is better than:
- A fast steal that goes through Post-Form and Pump Fakes
- Followed by either long stuns, half-court dashes, or unblockable passes
- Along with a dribble that lets you unblockable pass
- The best awakening in the game
violet socket
Jackpot is highkey number 1 style in the game rn
thats what im sayin cuh
this man delusional if he thinks that phantom is #1
hardy vigil
Like
hardy vigil
If you see a good Purim main it can rival jackpot
pallid vector
It rare to see a good jackpot main
That's your best argument?
violet socket
phantom users cant even their passing move with the ball cuh 🥀
pallid vector
"It doesn't matter that the style is busted to hell and high water, because I PERSONALLY haven't seen many good ones?"
hardy vigil
Like that not the style I use so
pallid vector
It's rare to see a good Phantom main
pallid vector
You don't seem to care about that
pallid vector
Like that not the style I use so
This has nothing to do with anything??????????
We're talking about balance
not what we see in our servers
hardy vigil
Ok
pallid vector
What part are you struggling with
hardy vigil
The one that you said if y oh aren’t educated
pallid vector
You don't know how to play the style because you've never used it
You don't play against any good Jackpots
hardy vigil
I said I don’t use it
pallid vector
and you don't even agree with the baseline consensus of the rest of the meta everyone else has agreed on
hardy vigil
So
violet socket
pallid vector
You even think Phantom is better than Flash despite using Flash
hardy vigil
It my opinion
pallid vector
No, you SAID Phantom is Top 1
That's what you said
"It my opinion" 🥀
bro can't defend his stances beyond saying they don't matter
💔
pallid vector
<#1326149032904622104>
you couldn't pay me
pale siren
use dms
pallid vector
You also couldn't pay me
hardy vigil
Nah
pale siren
not couldnt
hardy vigil
Wait
pale siren
'wouldnt'
hardy vigil
A min
pale siren
my broke ah aint got nthn to spare
pallid vector
Tomayto tomahto
violet socket
pale siren
i prefer chicken
pale siren
wait are beef and steak the same thing
pale siren
than steak better
hardy vigil
Ok
hardy vigil
Notice how he's moved on
Who
pallid vector
You thtupit
hardy vigil
Mb
pallid vector
You just said "its my opinion" and moved on
Even you know you're full of it
It's the only defense you have
hardy vigil
Nah
violet socket
like unless u specify the kind of steak tho
pallid vector
beef IS steak
the level of intellect i'm arguing with 🥀
violet socket
hardy vigil
But the best Style In the game at passing is phantom
I said the best style at passing
It you had read the message properly
pallid vector
He really isn't now that Jackpot is here
pale siren
He really isn't now that Jackpot is here
yeah
pallid vector
Jackpot is better at moving the ball around
pale siren
each of the mythics are the best in one aspect
pallid vector
simple as
pale siren
giant - best at defense
ace - best at offense
and jackpot is crazy for passing and assiting with basic movement
hardy vigil
Ace is not the best offensively
hardy vigil
Flash wayy better
pale siren
flash is so mid
pallid vector
flash is so mid
okay do me a favor and stay out of this discussion
pale siren
'flash' aint even fast anymore
pallid vector
you clearly don't know what you're talking about
hardy vigil
Like blud not okay
pale siren
imma keep talking in here
pallid vector
anyways, back to the point
hardy vigil
Nah
pale siren
so you guys can move somewhere else
hardy vigil
so you guys can move somewhere else
Buddy what you say make no sense
midnight sierra
ace is broken and has lingering iframes on the dribble right now and the shot is a 50/50 and practically unguardable if you think ace needs a buff you're lobotomized
pale siren
ace is broken and has lingering iframes on the dribble right now and the shot is...
litteraly what i just said
hardy vigil
ace is broken and has lingering iframes on the dribble right now and the shot is...
Nah ace needs a buff
pallid vector
Jackpot is better at moving the ball around
Jackpot is better at getting past people with the dribble, has potentially more passes than phantom, and has far better offensive capabilities
do either of the people pretending ace is busted at all have ace
pale siren
getting past people bro ace does that
pallid vector
if you can get THREE fades past me I'll zello you twenty bucks
midnight sierra
it needs buffs!
hardy vigil
getting past people bro ace does that
No it doesn’t
pale siren
his dribble move and and the 3 dribbles gets through the hole court
hardy vigil
Bro if you move backwards it worthless
pallid vector
Bro if you move backwards it worthless
"worthless" is an exaggeration
the dribble is good for mobility
the shot is dookie
pale siren
why yall hating on the shot bro its peak 🥀
pallid vector
why yall hating on the shot bro its peak 🥀
my offer is still open boy
pale siren
i see like 1 ace or giant every 5 lobbies
pallid vector
Giant or star block it with minimal ease
anyone can block it
it's so incredibly easy
pale siren
also i already said that
ace shot can be stopped with giant
so can every other base shot
hardy vigil
Like sniper is better
pallid vector
i feel like we're ignoring that the move is incredibly predictable on its own
hardy vigil
If you want to score
pale siren
sniper so ah
pallid vector
and that you don't need to waste snatch block to guard it
pallid vector
anyways Rails since you've ignored me a few times I'm assuming you're conceding on the "Phantom is better at passing than Jackpot" thing
Unless you wanna actually address it now
hardy vigil
It debated
pallid vector
Not really
hardy vigil
Jackpot is second best
pallid vector
Not really
hardy vigil
Wdym
pallid vector
Jackpot is better at getting past people with the dribble, has potentially more passes than phantom, and has far better offensive capabilities
hardy vigil
Not really
pallid vector
It has less downtime, lower cooldowns, and more agency
hardy vigil
Wait
pallid vector
Jackpot is the better passing style and it's not very close
hardy vigil
Phantom is the best passer
pallid vector
You can keep saying that all you want but you know you actually have to provide arguments, right?
Jackpot is better at getting past people with the dribble, has potentially more passes than phantom, and has far better offensive capabilities. It has less downtime, lower cooldowns, and more agency
pallid vector
So does Jackpot
pallid vector
And has a move where no one can we him
He also can't steal during it
hardy vigil
But he doesn’t need to
pallid vector
The upside is that he can't be marked on offense, of course
but as long as all of his teammates are marked passing to him will still struggle to get the ball through
Jackpot doesn't have this issue
hardy vigil
And even other poeple are. Saying it
pallid vector
on offense he has a dribble into a pass, that either forces multiple people to be close to him or risk giving a free point, and on defense he has the best steal in the game that potentially also leads into that pass
Like
What's not clicking here
hardy vigil
So does the phamtom
pallid vector
And even other poeple are. Saying it
Multiple people being wrong isn't an argument. That's called the Bandwagon fallacy
pallid vector
So does the phamtom
Phantom does NOT "have the best steal in the game that potentially also leads into that pass"
lol
hardy vigil
But they not wrong
pallid vector
But they not wrong
you know you actually have to prove that right
hardy vigil
I am
pallid vector
You can say it over and over but that isn't an argument
hardy vigil
What that literally what you doing x5
Like I was saying
Phamtom has the
Best pass ability
pallid vector
What that literally what you doing x5
you think you saying "phantom is good trust" and me saying "Jackpot is better at getting past people with the dribble, has potentially more passes than phantom, and has far better offensive capabilities. It has less downtime, lower cooldowns, and more agency. On offense he has a dribble into a pass, that either forces multiple people to be close to him or risk giving a free point, and on defense he has the best steal in the game that potentially also leads into that pass" Is the same thing??????
pallid vector
Phamtom has the
Best pass ability
At best Jackpot and Phantom have similar passes
ignite pass has a slightly higher cooldown than lucky dribble/lucky pass, and both are unblockable
pallid vector
Before I was Interrupted the 3 time
Type faster
I'm not gonna wait five minutes for you to finish typing to present my thoughts
pallid vector
Either type faster or get everything in the one message
pallid vector
Like you not even allowing my to talk
You do not have to respond to each message I type. I am also not preventing you from sending messages - this is not a verbal conversation
It is not possible for me to "talk over you"
literally just type
hardy vigil
I am
pallid vector
He says, interrupting himself again
this is the level of intellect i'm dealing with 🥀
Yknow what
I'm right you're wrong
hardy vigil
this is the level of intellect i'm dealing with 🥀
Busy
pallid vector
I'm done talkin
rain thunder
What's going on here?
hardy vigil
Like I’m nlg cause you type like an absolute robot does mean I have to type like you
30 old man with no job on a Dicord server with children is crazy
The game is literally for 12 year old
Can’t believe this guys is about an argue with an 12 year old about a game way below his age
Hypocrite
honest palm
imo it does not need a buff
Ace doesn't need a buff at all, it's good as it is
carmine elbow
Ace doesn't need a buff at all, it's good as it is
true
hidden furnace
well i have problems with GUARDING ACE
Cs you suck
radiant glade
Dun dun dun
urban gazelle
well i have problems with GUARDING ACE
how it’s so easy to guard nem
versed flicker
Most of the ace players u see are incompetent
A good competent ace player can completely take over the game
Ts does not need a buff
versed flicker
30 old man with no job on a Dicord server with children is crazy
Why do people always use the Ad Hominem Fallacy during an argument/debate
violet socket
Why do people always use the Ad Hominem Fallacy during an argument/debate
🤓☝️
dusty depot
Ace is actually decent, your shoot can be blocked by any decent player but as long you can shake em off with diffirent positioning it may works since those player aint robots too. overall i think he is just balanced. i dont think he need any MAJOR buff
autumn pecan
And its also easy to guard
Ace is the most overrated style in the game
I play better with PLAYMAKER than ace
It definitely needs a rework
versed flicker
the problem is they think ace should be able to score on 4-5 people
subtle atlas
fr
i understand if they want to rework the fadeaway into something like super reaction like what gagamuru has in rivals
versed flicker
and when do use the 2nd skill of ace they dont utilize it well
versed flicker
mfs just use it infront of someone like they cant predict where its gonna go
misty mulch
Ace kinda need a variant for his moves
Like all the other mythical has variants but him
subtle atlas
like what?
obsidian lantern
maybe I guess, something like an off the ball movement would be cool but I doubt they would do that right now
subtle atlas
not a dash move
we already have gambler, star, flash, and giant doing that
i dont see an off the ball being balanced
obsidian lantern
not a dash move
A speed boost one probably
carmine elbow
U rarely see ace nowadys
If it's mythoc, it's giant or jackpot
And star might get reworked
rustic condor
I want a flash rework
carmine elbow
Chrollo said clutch and star need reworks
carmine elbow
I want a flash rework
Flash is great as is
carmine elbow
Braindead or great
Both
It's a good 1v1 style
Best legendary imo
Star is goona get a rework at some point ig
rustic condor
Best legendary imo
Could be even best style ngl
carmine elbow
Could be even best style ngl
Giant and jackpot better
It's better than ace do sure
Pure offence its better than jackpot, but the pull back, shot and jackpot makes it better imo
You hardly pull off the steal if u do, it's awesome, it covers distance, can pass, can stun and cover more distance
gusty spindle
Yh but it's still easy to block and the moves are lowk garbage, especially the shot
stiff wolf
Giant and jackpot better
well giant isn't as good
range is nerfed
and jackpot can steal his
guarding move
post form
gleaming ginkgo
it auto dunks near the hoop, shot is practically un blockable, awakening allows...
Jackpot allows you to get an easy six points too
Or more
obsidian lantern
Jackpot allows you to get an easy six points too
How so
gleaming ginkgo
well i have problems with GUARDING ACE
Sounds like your problem 💔
gleaming ginkgo
How so
A guaranteed 3 points and if you get jackpot all your shots are free
For like 30 seconds
So yes
Also the dunk of the V is blockable
So it's only 4 points pluh
gleaming ginkgo
But im a jacpot main
AND YOU SAY ACE IS THE BEST MYTHIC 💔💔💔
obsidian lantern
A guaranteed 3 points and if you get jackpot all your shots are free
Lucky shot is easier to block than actual normal shot, even at their spawn I can snatch it with giant, only the lucky pull can guarantee it for you, also you can still block and steal from people even in jackpot 777
gleaming ginkgo
Lucky shot is easier to block than actual normal shot, even at their spawn I can...
Idk how you get the ball stolen in 777 mode
How bad do you have to be for that to happen to you
obsidian lantern
as a giant I have no problem with it but I can see where you’re coming from if you’re using something else
gleaming ginkgo
Also can't you feint then use the guaranteed shot ?
simple barn
777 doesn't make it unblockable, but that said the dribbles should stop anyone from getting near it.
obsidian lantern
but lucky shot is not as good as people make it to be
simple barn
but lucky shot is not as good as people make it to be
^
obsidian lantern
Lucky pull way betta
simple barn
Its just like Ace Fadeaway, once you know the trick you can just block it always
obsidian lantern
the windup on it is crazy long too
simple barn
I always just run behind a jackpot user when they get 777
obsidian lantern
also the best thing to do when you’re facing 777 is to basically stall, just like flash awk
gleaming ginkgo
but lucky shot is not as good as people make it to be
It's a way longer fade away shot isn't it ?
Like the playmaker's awk shot
But with sniper range
This thing is not balanced 💔
obsidian lantern
It's a way longer fade away shot isn't it ?
Windup wise yes
obsidian lantern
This thing is not balanced 💔
huh
that thing is so easy to block if you have a problem blocking that then that’s just a skill issue
gleaming ginkgo
that thing is so easy to block if you have a problem blocking that then that’s j...
I don't have giant
simple barn
you dont need it
gleaming ginkgo
I can not block it if they shoot it at the start in their court
gleaming ginkgo
you dont need it
Idk bro
simple barn
that part is true
obsidian lantern
well yea but still
every awk does provide you something
the jackpot one is not really that reliable imo tho
let’s say your lucky shot gets snatched and you debuff yourself
how’s that considered as “not balanced”
gleaming ginkgo
the jackpot one is not really that reliable imo tho
Well it still is a full court three pointer
If it was guaranteed
gleaming ginkgo
how’s that considered as “not balanced”
There's still a chance you get a 100% snatch rate
Taking that into account
It prolly isn't
But idk I'm no game designer
But still
obsidian lantern
If anything that’s not balanced it’s giant
gleaming ginkgo
If anything that’s not balanced it’s giant
Playing against a giant
I played against multiples
gleaming ginkgo
And I've never felt as much despair
marsh goblet
but you can't counter giants block
gleaming ginkgo
Against a jackpot
marsh goblet
Against a jackpot
noob shut up
gleaming ginkgo
but you can't counter giants block
???
0/10 ragebait
I'm literally saying ace needs a buff
Dummy
obsidian lantern
literally giant counters everything except for snipers awk
gleaming ginkgo
literally giant counters everything except for snipers awk
You can still feint a giant
Tho
obsidian lantern
well you haven’t played against a giant with braincells, you can snatch the shot midair vro
gleaming ginkgo
well you haven’t played against a giant with braincells, you can snatch the shot...
And so can star
Nerf star btw
obsidian lantern
but snatch is faster so yea
obsidian lantern
And I know you can snatch it midair if you time it right
yep
spare nebula
Ace is already to good
gleaming ginkgo
Ace is already to good
No it's not
spare nebula
No it's not
Yes it is
There’s only one ability that should be buffed
I forgot the name
I don’t use ace
I use jackpot
gleaming ginkgo
I use jackpot
So you're just buns are smth
Jackpot is busted
And makes it so easy to stop ace
spare nebula
So you're just buns are smth
No
spare nebula
And makes it so easy to stop ace
Not really In defense yes
carmine elbow
STAR IS GETTIND A REWORK
marsh goblet
Not really In defense yes
ur buns
spare nebula
No
spare nebula
Nvm buff ace what is this 😭🙏
hazy palm
Nvm buff ace what is this 😭🙏
hell nah clown
spare nebula
hell nah clown
Hell yea goofy
grizzled kestrel
ember anchor
ace is kinda crazy the only thing i can think to buff (if i had to buff) would be the cooldowns are quite long but i just wouldent buff him
proud lantern
Buff ace
marsh goblet
ace is kinda crazy the only thing i can think to buff (if i had to buff) would b...
Offball move
urban gazelle
so basically athletic dribble but instead stuns them?
rustic condor
so basically athletic dribble but instead stuns them?
Only stuns one person hopefully
vast oriole
Have it stun someone or something cause playmaker, flash and jackpot all can stun but this dribble is quite literally supposed to be near impossible to guard directly
flat yacht
phantom is lwk good
hazy palm
phantom is lwk good
no
subtle atlas
he is for your team
hazy palm
only way u say no is if u a ballhog or don’t pass alot
still no
nova heron
phantom is good if u have a tm with a brain
basically impossible to stop invis unless they got multiple people with good defense
and bullet pass is free buckets
unkempt orchid
No????
hazy palm
You trash asl sthu
ur my dogg
nova heron
ace isnt hard its just
styles which revolve around 2s are stupid because 3s are so easy
sure technically u can get a 3 off everytime
but vs a giant its not happening
and giant is revolved around 2s too but the entire point of it is the block + charge move
trim prism
i literally stopped maining ace because of how boring and easy it made things, so now i’m just using chuck
nova heron
i literally stopped maining ace because of how boring and easy it made things, s...
same for me but with jackpot
jackpot steal needs to be unable to work during chuck shot icl
tell me why i get a "successful shot ability range increased" and the jackpot user is across the court cuz he stole the ball 🥀
grizzled kestrel
marsh goblet
B