Jackpot Is Weak.

[native jay]

U know DAMN well

U was bumping donda

And graduation

[velvet axle]

do u think if trading was added to bbz it would hurt the game?

[native jay]

Before that came out

[torn solar]

I barely bump kanye

What the yap

[native jay]

this is NOT a simulator

[velvet axle]

simulator?

[native jay]

Funny

[velvet axle]

why does trading mean a simulator

[native jay]

erbody and they great grandma know Kanye

[cunning glacier]

Why would trading be in the game

[native jay]

💔

[torn solar]

What that suppose to prove tho

Dude still support hitler

[sterile sun]

Hating on me even on here

[torn solar]

🥷🥷🥷

[torn solar]

?

[native jay]

U prolly deserved it

[torn solar]

I simply said I was being threatened

[velvet axle]

i mean maybe if they added like limited crates and super nice goal explosions and stuff

and trading was a thing it wouldnt be to bad

but i mean

just a thought

[torn solar]

Trading?

Yeah.

[sterile sun]

Jackpot pls

[velvet axle]

it would be good earnings

[native jay]

real talk tho

[velvet axle]

for the game aswell

people would gamble

on crates

[native jay]

how the new testers treating you

[torn solar]

I don't speak to them

[sterile sun]

True

[cunning glacier]

Kanye can say whatever he wants, he made MDTBF

[sterile sun]

Let's start investing into crypto mining

Such a good idea

[sturdy marlin]

Let go into debt guys

[velvet axle]

didnt market crash not long ago?

[torn solar]

This is like Diddy saying he can do whatever he wants since he inspired the 1990's

[native jay]

I mean

He did say we was a savage

And he got whatever he want

🤷🏽

[sterile sun]

Jackpot is weak? Such a good suggestion

[native jay]

Shows how goated gen 1 testers were

[native jay]

Yes

Ik

[velvet axle]

lowkey needa make zone 250 rbx instead of 299 like the styles

[native jay]

WE

know

[cunning glacier]

Difference is no one listens to puff

[native jay]

Real talk

[velvet axle]

jackpot def not weak just has some issues

[cunning glacier]

Mfs still complaining about it being weak when it was buffed? 💔

[velvet axle]

imma be honest

the buff wasnt anything crazy

its something tho

they added 1-2 extra range and 0.2 seconds off the windup

thats a estimation but im sure im real close

if not spot on

[sturdy marlin]

The only buff that makes the most difference is the dribbling

[velvet axle]

yea that buff

is the best the lucky bounce

now i cant get stolen from

[sturdy marlin]

Fr

[velvet axle]

before i can use it

[sturdy marlin]

[velvet axle]

but lucky steal still gonna put u one ice more then half the time u use it

even if it didnt put u on ice u almost never able to get value outta it

cause people either pass or take ur ankles

it can be clutch at times tho

[sturdy marlin]

[velvet axle]

less then more tho

[sturdy marlin]

I still can't use it 💔

[velvet axle]

i mean im not a bad player by any means not even tryna be cocky

[sturdy marlin]

Man was hype that people say it op only for it to be over reacting

[velvet axle]

and i still struggle with the steal

jackpot as a whole i struggle with more then i did with ace or giant

but its def a fun style

[sturdy marlin]

Yuh

[velvet axle]

the steal just needs a abit of extra pazazzz

[torn solar]

Puff made celebrities

And puff was heavily glazed

People looked at him like he was a god

Without puff u wouldn't see certain celebrities today

[velvet axle]

hes worked on alot of good songs too

[torn solar]

Many in fact

[velvet axle]

ty

yeah

[torn solar]

Sure us new gens don't listen to him but

Dude was probably as popular as Kanye was back then as Kanye is today

If not way more popular

[velvet axle]

im complete opposite i listen to more older rap

but tbh i mostly listen to rock at this day and age

im not some old head

im 20

but still

[torn solar]

Watchout saying your age

They was calling me grandpa

And I'm not even drinking age

🥷🥷🥷

[velvet axle]

crazy

wait

im in canada so it might be diff

people be drinking at like 14 here

[torn solar]

In America drinking is 21

[velvet axle]

althought it aint

legal

cops dont care half the time

[torn solar]

Which ion even drink regardless cause my tastebuds cant handle it

🥀

[velvet axle]

ion see the fun in drinking

or why people do it

im full clean

or smoking ect

i guess i can see smoking helping some people

[cunning glacier]

Killed Tupac and biggie too

[torn solar]

I think drinking on occasion is fine, but there's always that other side of drinking people hit

[velvet axle]

but i tried it

and all i got was a burn

[torn solar]

Till like 2 decades later

😭

[cunning glacier]

All the signs were there

[torn solar]

I mean if u think about it

They weren't that crazy advanced back then as we was today, so news was limited*

Plus Diddy made that song about biggie that blew up

So no one really suspected him that much

Till likeee way later

[cunning glacier]

Idk how no one figured it out until only recently

Em was alr saying stuff about puff

[torn solar]

Don't forget puff is on a crazy scale tho

And had crazy influence

[cunning glacier]

Yeah

[torn solar]

So going against him was like asking for your career to be cooked

[cunning glacier]

How did he even have the industry in a chokehold

I don't get it

[velvet axle]

i only listen to really like 2 rappers now that i think of it being ice cube and eminem

listen to a bit of hopsin here and there aswell

[sturdy marlin]

Woah

[cunning glacier]

Listen to Cole trust 🙏

[torn solar]

I don't have a clue on what his up bringing was

[sturdy marlin]

I wanna try soju

[velvet axle]

i used to when i was abit younger

[torn solar]

Oop I let it slip

[sturdy marlin]

All the Korean videos make me curious

[velvet axle]

yall ever listened to hopsin?

[torn solar]

Hah not suppose to say that

[velvet axle]

or know of him

[torn solar]

🥷🥷🥷

[sturdy marlin]

Gg bannn

[torn solar]

I got too comfortable

[sturdy marlin]

Don't ban me 💔

[velvet axle]

hopsin kinda like abit of a eminem vibe

very lyrical

[sturdy marlin]

Anyway uh I bullied the opponent with lucky steal

They would probably think the buff is op ig

[torn solar]

Let them think it's op

[sturdy marlin]

Lol

[cunning glacier]

Sum about u

I feel like ur the type to listen to nettspend

[torn solar]

Everyone got diff opinions

[sturdy marlin]

Surely y'all won't nerf the steal right cuz in other suggestions they want it to be reverted

😭

Cuz they overreacting

[torn solar]

Some people say giant is terrible, some say jackpot best style in the game

[velvet axle]

in all honesty if jackpot got any typa nerf

[torn solar]

Some say sniper is better than ace (no bs)

[velvet axle]

id just spin it

[torn solar]

Welcome to opinion culture

[sturdy marlin]

Fr

[cunning glacier]

It doesnt need a nerf/buff

[velvet axle]

ill spin jackpot for flash if for some reason it gets nerfed

or wtv i can get

[cunning glacier]

Fine the way it is

[torn solar]

Buff it anymore it might actually become a problem

[velvet axle]

yea i dont think it exactly needs a buff but a touch up to steal wouldnt hurt

and when i say touch up

i dont even mean buff

just a better way of it working kinda

or some tweaks to it

like

[cunning glacier]

Even pre-buff it was fine the way it is

[velvet axle]

remove getting skated across the map

if ankles are broken

i mean tbh

the buff aint even much

pre buff lucky bounce was actually bad

ngl

stealing range was longer

[sturdy marlin]

Holy yap

[torn solar]

Eh I wouldn't say bad

[velvet axle]

then the lucky bounce activation range

the buff is game changing?

[sturdy marlin]

😭

[velvet axle]

that it just got?

[torn solar]

You get used to the difference in opinion after some time

[velvet axle]

the buff really dont change much of anything it helps abit tho

[sturdy marlin]

Not when it completely false

[velvet axle]

well

the buff def changes lucky bounce

[cunning glacier]

Blood valentine working overtime

[sturdy marlin]

They just lied out of their mouth

[torn solar]

That's what a opinion is at the end of the day

[sturdy marlin]

😭

[torn solar]

That's why I only respond to certain threads

And only certain people

[sturdy marlin]

And they think the dev are like dumb or smth

[velvet axle]

i feel like if anything else was to happen to lucky steal if should be not getting skated across the map when u get ur ankles taken and maybe it locks to the ball instead of the person holding it

[cunning glacier]

Y'all shouldn't let another man's opinion disturb you lmfao

[sturdy marlin]

The def is not gonna nerf ace shot righr

[velvet axle]

rage lemme know what u think of this alr

[sturdy marlin]

I hate dumb opinions which is completely unlogical

[velvet axle]

i want ur thought

[cunning glacier]

On

[velvet axle]

yknow how lucky steal can only go from the range u activate it at

and to the player

right

[cunning glacier]

Yes

[torn solar]

You get used to it

[velvet axle]

what if instead its locked to the ball so say if

[torn solar]

U can't please everyone at the end of the day

[velvet axle]

ur ontop of someone

[velvet axle]

and they shoot the ball or pass it

the range u would need to close the gap

wait im tryna figure out the best way to word this

[cunning glacier]

Ngl my brain is fried rn

[velvet axle]

like so u know how

[cunning glacier]

I can't comprehend anythin

[velvet axle]

say lucky steal

has 6 feet of range

so u can use it from 6 feet all the way to them

so say instead

if u use it well super close to them

that extra range can be used to chase the ball

[sturdy marlin]

Is this intended btw?

[velvet axle]

so if someone shoots

and ur ontop of them

the ball can get chased till 6 feet

[cunning glacier]

Kinda like nutmeg?

[velvet axle]

if it gets 6 feet away

u stop chasing it

so for instance

rn

if u use lucky steal

to steal someone from shooting

it only goes to the player

it dont chase the ball

it chases the player

so instead

it can chase the ball abit

even after passed or shot

if ur close enough

when using the steal

idk if this is to hard to understand

i feel like in all honesty would be a great tweak to the steal if i can somehow word this proper

[sturdy marlin]

Oh so you want the steal to follow the ball?

[velvet axle]

basically

[sturdy marlin]

Like steal a airborne or wuh

So basically giant?

[velvet axle]

u know how when u steal u can travel a good distance to the player

[sturdy marlin]

Ya

[velvet axle]

so instead

if u use the travel

the steal i mean

when ur on the player

the lost distance

will then chase the ball

[sturdy marlin]

Only when they shoot is it?

[velvet axle]

or pass

or when its on the ground

its not even really a buff

its just a tweak to how it works

[sturdy marlin]

Oh ic you mean cuz sometimes the steal works but the ball is in the air so you got no ball?

[torn solar]

I don't understand the context

Or anything really

[sturdy marlin]

So you make it chase that kinda ball

[sturdy marlin]

Ok so if you use the dribbling skill on a ankle break guy

The ball will go to them

[velvet axle]

so basically say i can dash from 20 feet to u

right shaoof

but if im on top of u

[sturdy marlin]

Ye

[velvet axle]

i can still dash 20 feet

but it wouldnt be too u

[torn solar]

Is there a clip?

[velvet axle]

since im already on u

[sturdy marlin]

Nah imma try and get one when I have the chance

[velvet axle]

so instead of to u

it dashes to the ball

for the dash range lost

[torn solar]

A whole lotta yapping and no clip

[sturdy marlin]

Aye 💔

[torn solar]

Can be helpful sometimes

Y'know?

[sturdy marlin]

Lol

[sturdy marlin]

Oh

[velvet axle]

do u get what im saying at all

idk if im wording this well

[sturdy marlin]

A little

💔

It basically chase the ball when you jump and steal right?

[velvet axle]

basically

[sturdy marlin]

Ye

[velvet axle]

if ur close enough to the player

when u use lucky steal

instead of max range

[sturdy marlin]

Won't that be op?

It sounds like a 100% steal rate

[velvet axle]

well if u think of it

its just taking the lost range

[sturdy marlin]

Cuz it follows the ball

[velvet axle]

and turning it to some else

[sturdy marlin]

We got dash afterwards 💔

[velvet axle]

like damn how do i word this

[sturdy marlin]

Lol

[torn solar]

Nah other jackpot thread too funny...

[velvet axle]

imma try to word this one more time if i cant then i jus giveup

[cunning glacier]

So ur basically knocking the ball away

And u have to chase it

[velvet axle]

so say i can lock on dash to u from 20 feet max

if im 1 foot away from u

[sturdy marlin]

Which part is funny

[velvet axle]

and i dash

i only dash 1 foot

[sturdy marlin]

[velvet axle]

too u

thats 19 feet of the dash wasted

[torn solar]

Everything really

[velvet axle]

so that extra feet

[sturdy marlin]

Lol

[velvet axle]

will be turned towards chasing the ball

does that make more sense?

i feel like im wording it the only way it can really be explained if u dont understand then sh maybe im just slow or wtv

im def fried rn tho

[sturdy marlin]

Lol ye

[cunning glacier]

This thread has 6k messages

[sturdy marlin]

🔥

[velvet axle]

i mean it has 0 cooldown so not surprised but also thats crazy amount

that just goes to show tho

tbh idek what im saying anymore

[native jay]

Half of these from Andre

[sturdy marlin]

Lol

Technically ain't this a a ult buff. 4 dribble in jackpot move if you win

[pale ore]

Yeah

[stark sage]

I think the jackpot move is pretty good if you learn how to use the steal properly the only thing I wish would change is your chance to land on luck I definitely see why it’s a low change bc the buff is very good but you only get the buff for a short time of the awakening so I would definitely ask for the chance to land on triple 7 to be increased

[sturdy marlin]

Lel

[sturdy marlin]

Nahhh with the jackpot. You can score 2 times guarantee

[velvet axle]

i mean thing about the awakening if they get tripple 777 just keep passing and most players kinda know to do that

or atleast ones with a brain

to wait out the awk

one thing i must say

it seems passing is a big theme to countering jackpots whole kit

passing counters lucky steal and its jackpot awakening

[sturdy marlin]

Lel

[reef gale]

tbh I only won it once, i feel like the rates are HELLA low, and thats fair, but if its going to apply good buffs for the clutch up system they wanted, I feel like they have to add more purpose to the other moves, loaded dice is already balanced and is QUITE literally gambling which I LOVE, on the other hand, jackpot steal is just kinda meh in awk, I have no reason to use it when everybody sees it coming and just spams dribble anyways.

[sturdy marlin]

Only use jackpot steal when you win the jackpot 💔

[winged linden]

nah there is definitely practicality to jackpot steal in awakening

especially if you win the gamble

the steal is free so its extra distance as well

and i believe the cooldown comes back after awakening ends

otherwise you can use it like normal

[split crag]

Guaranteed Ankle breaks and steals for 4 seconds

[sturdy marlin]

30seconds

[slate nest]

ill prob use it just after an opponent has finished 3 dribbles

[rocky owl]

Bro do u know the chances of jackpot ult I swear it's lower that 30 percentage of succeeding

[sturdy marlin]

No idea

[rocky owl]

I was in a server where the ult was used 6 times before get it

[sturdy marlin]

🌆

Lol

[zealous lance]

I despise jackpot now

We were at the end of the game where you do that shot

The jackpot dude had ult and he just pulled it back

We most likely would’ve won if he didn’t

[rocky owl]

Wat do you mean now the buffs only affected his base moves he used his ult move that has been there since release lol

[reef gale]

than theres no point in the move if u lose the jackpot, if im using that logic

[sturdy marlin]

Yea tbh

Unless your opp suck

[sturdy marlin]

There's actually a way to counter this

Just focus on the jackpot dude. If he decides to go towards your goal even when your team have a ball

Just guard him

[sturdy marlin]

[ebon totem]

Do my eyes deceive me, cuz it sounds like yall are saying the most busted mythic in the whole game that js recently got buffed btw is "weak" tf else you want dawg you get a 50/50 chance of hitting jackpot and once you do your basically LeBron Mj Shaq Steph C and Kd all in one and even with doing the whole jackpot thing you get to do ur Lil dice roll that gives you some broken shi so ion wanna hear yall jackpot users complaining. Giant users should be the ones complaining since we got our junk nerfed for no reason 🤷🏿

[cunning fjord]

jackpot is balanced

not rewritting everything

it dosent need a buff/nerf

[sturdy marlin]

Uh the chance is not 5050 and yes the ult is broken (I'm not gonna go though how to counter it, go search it up yourself) but were talking about the base here

[ebon totem]

listen here buddy, the base is broken as well Free movement

nobody is guarding allat

[sturdy marlin]

Tell me how buddy

What the free movement and what move is game breaking op

[ebon totem]

and after increasing the range on the steal move

[sturdy marlin]

It barely a increase btw I checked it

[ebon totem]

this mf move through the court with pure ease

[sturdy marlin]

And get ragdoll?

Sure

The activation range is sure far but not as far to go through half the court

The one that makes you half a court is the aftermaths

Or am I wrong?

[ebon totem]

sigh

[sturdy marlin]

So I'm wrong then

[ebon totem]

so you believe that jackpot is weak as well

[sturdy marlin]

[sturdy marlin]

No

Not weak

LMAO

It definitely not weak

Did did the steal need a buff? Maybe but let not argue about that if not it would go nowhere

The dribble? It definitely need the buff

The activation range is shorter than the normal steal range

But what did the buff about the steal make it go game breaking?

The range for activation is barely anything

[sturdy marlin]

The buff. It still feels the same. Definitely longer but not much

The lower windup? Ye I love that but you can still see it

I don't mind if they revert it back but calling it game breaking op is ridiculous

[ebon totem]

its pretty game breaking but im it really does not need a buff

[sturdy marlin]

And how

Explain to me

Let not talk about the pump fake iframe bypass

[ebon totem]

what is the best mythic in your opinion

[sturdy marlin]

If case that is your point

[sturdy marlin]

That is completely irrelevant but I think giant as a base. Jackpot in ult

[ebon totem]

do you think that giant needed a nerf

[sturdy marlin]

Nope

[ebon totem]

now can you imagine to my disbelief when i look in the patch notes and see that giant got a nerf and jackpot got a buff then not only that people are advocating to gving jackpot even more buffs

[sturdy marlin]

People want more buff cuz they stupid

Let em be

Jackpot does not need a nerf nor a buff now

[ebon totem]

exactly

[sturdy marlin]

The steal still sucks in randoms unless they pump fake

[ebon totem]

keep it as is

[sturdy marlin]

The dribble is good

[ebon totem]

you js gotta use it well

[sturdy marlin]

I just re read your message and it seems like I didn't read it all

Mb man

I thought your the person who said that jackpot is broken and need a nerf asap

😭

Like about the steal buff being game breaking when the range buff is barely anything and the windup is just like 0.2 less

[ebon totem]

nope, wasn't me

ive js been ranting about the giant nerf and the jackpot buff

[sturdy marlin]

Lol ye tbh the giant nerf is kinda unfair no?

What been nerf anyway?

Ik it the grab move but what do they mean by goalent?

[ebon totem]

GIANT
Giant's Snatch Block has been nerfed to make it harder to goaltend with, so it should be a bit easier to get some of those shots you were missing out on! Does this mean we made him smaller...? Is he just "TALL" now? "SHORT"?

[ebon totem]

"goaltend" meaning being a center that he was intended to be

its a mythic for a reason

tf you mean so these randos have it easier to make shots

thats why the implemented cooldowns

its not like its spammable

and i have no heard a single complaint about giant

EVER

https://tenor.com/view/re-zero-re-zero-subaru-subaru-shock-subaru-scream-subaru-tweaking-gif-96966482705194904

[sturdy marlin]

Lol

Ask leandre

He a head dev

[full steeple]

goaltending im pretty sure is when you take the ball when its going in for a point so just camping the rim and stopping all shots and just grabbing it

you can search it up

Its illegal and would be annoying in basketball games

[sturdy marlin]

Ohhh

Dang it I should have aboose that before nerf

[full steeple]

So when you shoot if you just snatch it while its going for a shot or close to it thats goal tending

Or when its about to land inside

[sturdy marlin]

Dang

Sensei wisdom

[full steeple]

then a block is when they are abiut to shoot and you just grab it or slam it down

Yiu cant get it when its already on it way to the basket

[sturdy marlin]

Ic

[cunning glacier]

It's when the ball is going down alr that u can't block it

That's goal tending

[sturdy marlin]

Giant does not need that nerf 💔

[ebon totem]

Giant is for center

the whole point of a center is to goaltend

[timid frost]

cuh what goaltending is illegal

also this whole post is stupid asl

jackpot is the farthest thing from weak if ur good with it

[ebon totem]

exactly

[ebon totem]

no, only if the ball is near the rim

but if not

its free game

[timid frost]

wrong, i’m assuming u don’t play or watch basketball irl. if the ball is coming down on its arc, no matter where it is on the court, its goaltending which is illegal

[inner widget]

125 people disagree with that

not including me

bc i dont have jackpot

‼️

[timid frost]

i have it, and it’s really good, these kids were expecting an auto win style

best style in the game if yk what ur doing

[inner widget]

jackpot is OP if ur actually decent at the game

idk what ppl are saying

[ebon totem]

read with comprehension i alr know this

[timid frost]

“toward the basket” doesn’t mean near the rim. it means if the shot was toward the basket, and it’s going down already, u can’t touch it

[inner widget]

how does this have to do with anything related to jackpot

[timid frost]

scroll up people were talking about giant doing an illegal goaltending

[inner widget]

ppl getting angry over an irl rule getting broken in a roblox game 💔

[ebon totem]

WHen i say near the rim that obv means it already going in a downward flight and also these rules do apply as well if the ball hits the backboard etc

[timid frost]

well to be fair, this is a basketball game, and i’d imagine since they fixed the illegal spam pump faking, they’d want to make it abide by the rules

[inner widget]

i get that but its fun snatching the ball after u shoot

[timid frost]

the point is, giant was doing illegal moves consistently, so it got a nerf

[inner widget]

after ppl shoot*

[timid frost]

u still can if ur quick enough and don’t delay ur move

the problem was that these kids were letting it get inches away from going in and then snatching it

[ebon totem]

this game does not care about actual basketball rules lmao we got mfs that pull the ball towards them mid air and mf who blitz you with no foul

[timid frost]

that’s a way to look at it i suppose and i personally thought they’d keep the giant goaltending but i guess they’d want to keep the base rules of basketball in the game

[slate nest]

SHOULD I SPIN OFF JACKPOT?

[ebon totem]

yes

[slate nest]

Why?

i have 7 lucky spins

[ebon totem]

its the worse mythic

really bad

js spin it off

https://tenor.com/view/yu-yu-hakusho-yyh-anime-yoshihiro-togashi-yusuke-gif-10894977896287523487

[slate nest]

nah idk

should i?

[ebon totem]

yea

https://tenor.com/view/soul-eater-gif-18701256

[alpine epoch]

alot, if you actually contributes in the match you can get awakening EVERY match and gambling between the most broken awakening or just nothing is the base inspiration of it. they trying to took the gambling in literal sense, his steal is actually decent. you aint normalised towards a balanced ability

[sturdy marlin]

😭 bro tryna make someone quit bbz

[sturdy marlin]

Lol the steal works for me cuz people dk how to dribble

[alpine epoch]

Yeah i am tired of seeing my teammate getting no diffed by a halfcourt steal ong

Well the most annoying ability is when they pull the ball back from mid air

[cunning glacier]

https://tenor.com/view/kanye-west-gif-1846075065280866456

[sage schooner]

crazy how jackpot is a top 3 style

and this post hasnt been deleted

[fresh rain]

jackpot is so unfair man the awakening is too op and gives u superpowers and the steal is literally too fast and goes through pumpfake so u can’t even make the excuse that its bad especially since ofc of the awk moves give 100% shot and thats not even the main move

Also the gamble is completely balanced if u have a problem then dont use the style it’s meant for people with luck

[sturdy marlin]

It not really a half court steal. The range is lesser than a half court but the aftermath dash is half court 🤓

[alpine epoch]

I know, i am js overexaggerating

[sturdy marlin]

Yuh

[sturdy marlin]

Honestly I don't have a problem going against the steal when I keep dribbling and passing. I never have the ball when I'm out of dribble

[plush narwhal]

he’s op gng.

[timid frost]

LMFAOO???

[timid frost]

top 1, only comparable is ace but if u know how to use jackpot u cant counter

[sage schooner]

ace and top 1 in the same sentence

yeah

sorry but i cant take what you just said seriously

[fierce meteor]

jackpot cant be tbe weakest

it’s def top 2

honestly idk how to rank the other mythics since I’ve never got them

[fading jay]

this was before the new buffs

with his new buffs id say hes up with ace

but giants still the best

[hardy mural]

it gives you undodgeable steals and speed buff

also jackpot has the best ult out of any mythic

lucky pull and lucky shot are crazy

especially compared to aces useless dunks which you can almost do without awakening by just doing 3 dribbles and jumping

also is this ragebait i really cant tell

also basically four base moves

[cunning glacier]

Always been above ace

[hardy mural]

i can see the lucky steal mid argument

but the ult is leagues above every other ult in the game

even without jackpot

and if your argument is that jackpot ult move is too luck based

then whyd you pick the "jackpot style"

[sturdy marlin]

Uh so jackpot steal kinda buffy

Buggy*

Like I stole the ball

But it just tp to the opponent

His using sniper 😭

[fresh rain]

What if I’m already close to the hoop and I am in the position to score but I get speed blitzed

[sturdy marlin]

That timing is very small honestly. I tried doing that and it never steal the ball despite the steal been activated

Which is why the windup is there

It's not as fast as you think it is

[fresh rain]

Pretty sure the windup is half a second

[sturdy marlin]

And how long does it take to shoot?

Without using zone

[fresh rain]

About a second

[sturdy marlin]

Ye so

You gotta time half a second early

Basically you gotta predict

Gamble ig

I never won

[fresh rain]

With how fast it is as soon as my 3rd dribble is over the ball is stolen

[sturdy marlin]

Honestly idk

I did it as soon as dribble is over

But the ball is already in the air

Aye I'm just saying with what I'm seeing

[fresh rain]

Well idk

[sturdy marlin]

And he is not using a zone so

[sturdy marlin]

Can we just talk about this

[fading jay]

not until this upd nah

[hardy mural]

almost like you have the jackpot style

[fading jay]

his steal was really lame pre buff and his pass wasnt as good (it was still really good tho)

[sturdy marlin]

Why did the ball tp back to the person I stole

[fresh rain]

Idk maybe lag

Or a style

[hardy mural]

steal works on most randoms

[sturdy marlin]

His using sniper

[hardy mural]

ult is better than all other ults

lucky bounce is solid

[sturdy marlin]

Might be lag ig

[hardy mural]

lucky pass is a nice unblockable pass follow up

[sturdy marlin]

Idk someone stole my pass

[hardy mural]

lucky steal is situational but if you land it you go super speed

[sturdy marlin]

I saw the ball flew

The pass went

But the opp got it

[hardy mural]

prob used snatch block or something

[sturdy marlin]

I highly doubt it 100% iframe

[hardy mural]

otherwise i have no clue

a pumpfake pass is iframes

[sturdy marlin]

Nope normal

Not a giant

[hardy mural]

thast odd

maybe a bug?

[sturdy marlin]

Idk

[hardy mural]

i doubt it would happen again

[sturdy marlin]

Maybe

[sturdy marlin]

Happened twice already

[hardy mural]

but either way thats a small problem

[sturdy marlin]

Small is crazy

[hardy mural]

yeah

small

just do a pumpfake pass

[sturdy marlin]

It makes you throw a game

[hardy mural]

not that hard

[hardy mural]

its one pass

[sturdy marlin]

So I just don't use the passing ability then? Ale

Alr

[hardy mural]

my guy

[fading jay]

no you should

[sturdy marlin]

Completely dismiss a ability

[hardy mural]

its not that deep

[fading jay]

idk why its buggin for you

[hardy mural]

there is four abilities

[fading jay]

but it should work fine

[sturdy marlin]

My guy is supposed to work

[hardy mural]

also NOBODY has this problem

other than u

so prob a ping issue

or something

[sturdy marlin]

U sure

[fading jay]

unless ur playing with 300+ ping constant

[hardy mural]

u have 4 abilities

a small bug thats specific to u

which makes ONE of your abilities worse

is not that deep

[sturdy marlin]

[hardy mural]

your other three moves are great

[sturdy marlin]

Ye nah

[hardy mural]

why do you love that emoji so much

[sturdy marlin]

Ok sure

[hardy mural]

just make a normal argument

[sturdy marlin]

Didn't ask if the other ability is great

[sturdy marlin]

Uh

[hardy mural]

lucky bounce is amazing lucky steal is really fast and lucky dash is graet

[sturdy marlin]

Cuz it makes it fub

Fun

[hardy mural]

"didn't ask" what is this 2020

are you 8 years old

[sturdy marlin]

No

[hardy mural]

sure seems like it

[sturdy marlin]

So I can't say a specific word because it used in the past?

What is this

[hardy mural]

waaah my ability isnt working its not good enough i cant do with my other three abilities compared to everyone elses 2

[sturdy marlin]

"didn't ask" is not even slang or anything. It is an actual word used in a sentence

[hardy mural]

this is how our conversation is going

[sturdy marlin]

I'm just saying it a bug

[hardy mural]

mm

[sturdy marlin]

And it should be looked into?

Is that wrong?

Am I missing smth here

[hardy mural]

then go to bug fixes

thats what you're missing

[sturdy marlin]

A lead dev checked here usually

[hardy mural]

don't use a dumb bug as a reason for calling a style weak

[sturdy marlin]

I'm just saying here

[hardy mural]

wanna know where they check more? bug fixes?

[sturdy marlin]

And bro putting words in my mouth

[hardy mural]

if you wanna report a bug

[sturdy marlin]

Lnao

Didn't even say it was weak 😭

[hardy mural]

its called subtext genius

[sturdy marlin]

Anyway let's stop this argument

[hardy mural]

you are in the "jackpot is weak channel" pointing out a flaw thats literally a bug

[sturdy marlin]

Yk

Nvm

[hardy mural]

#1357167454861791414 here you go

[sturdy marlin]

Sure

Gotta stay to the topic

[sturdy marlin]

I don't have the clip. I'm not making one

[hardy mural]

so basically it never happened and you're whining your mythic style isnt good enough for you

got it

[sturdy marlin]

Sure keep putting words in my mouth 😭

It didn't say it not good enough for me

I'm just stating there's a bug

Or the pass

[hardy mural]

🤷 cant help with the picture you're painting

[sturdy marlin]

For*

Potential oass

Pass

[hardy mural]

🤯

[sturdy marlin]

Where did I say it not good enough?

[hardy mural]

cool

you

are in

the jackpot is weak

arguing wit hme

[sturdy marlin]

And?

[hardy mural]

that it is buggy

and therefore weak

otherwise you would just report the bug

like a normal human

[sturdy marlin]

That is the stupidest conclusion ever

[hardy mural]

anyways i gtg have fun using your side eye emoji and telling me "who asked"

[sturdy marlin]

I do not have a clip

I'm leaving that message for a lead dev

[hardy mural]

lead devs dont check nothing from randos with no clips

[sturdy marlin]

Sure

[hardy mural]

just saying

if you have no proof nobody is going to care

[sturdy marlin]

Ok

[timid frost]

what could u possibly have above it? flash?? if u say giant u lose all credibility

[sage schooner]

giant, flash, jackpot

all better

[sturdy marlin]

Ace is predictable (I can't block the shoot cuz I suck but other people can )

[proven girder]

I do think he is weak they should make it so the steal its self had 50/50 ripping the ball even if it’s a ankle break cause I think rn it’s so easy to dodge or ankle break it and when u use it ur immobile for a bit

[vast shadow]

jackpotsteal can steal while iframe

[proven girder]

Oh did not no that

I haven’t used him much so that mb

[fiery pivot]

nope

makes ur steal guaranteed to take the ball even if he dribbles

[proven girder]

And 100 guaranteed ankle breaker

[sturdy marlin]

Only post form and pump fake

I still barely use it tho

So I don't think that a reason

Ain't my fault my opp doesn't want to use pump fake eh

And for the stupid people just like to the one I talked to. I'm not saying jackpot is weak by all means

Don't use dum logic like oh it cuz it in the jackpot is weak suggestions

It called off topic for a reason

Smh

[woeful urchin]

syfbau

[sturdy marlin]

[merry tinsel]

wish jackpot was more rng based, like a 50/50 chance for ur steal to either not work at all or go through every iframe in the game

the only thing being an actual win or lose is the one ultimate move

[hardy mural]

LOL

this guy gets me

[fallen phoenix]

We got people saying ace is top 1 LOOOOL

Ace is the worst mythic by far

Flash is better as well

Snatch block is a guaranteed turnover if u are good enough and post form gives u a ton of options in the paint

Jackpot and flash both have dribble moves that stun

[cunning glacier]

Stinky 2 pointers 🤮

[fallen phoenix]

Ace has a shooting move that is easily blockable

If u cant block it u are a certified bot

And its dribble move is good yeah but it doesnt even stun

Not to mention both giant and jackpot get off the ball moves as well

[echo steppe]

id say its 50/50 for me to block it and rarely i just miss blocking a normal shot while waiting for fadeaway

its not a bad move at all

[fallen phoenix]

I mean its just a skill issue

Its terrible against good players

[echo steppe]

youre not gonna tell me you block 100% of aces fadeaway all the time

[fallen phoenix]

I do?

[cunning glacier]

Prob bot ace players

[fallen phoenix]

It is not hard to block at all LOL

Do u jump for pump fakes @echo steppe

U prob do

[echo steppe]

ok bro is it that deep

[fallen phoenix]

Huh

[echo steppe]

ur not blocking 100% of aces shots anyways

[fallen phoenix]

Dont say that because u cant do it bro LOL

[echo steppe]

i dare you to try block this one ace i came across w 7k points

[cunning glacier]

Why are we acting like on every play u would defend ace

[echo steppe]

honestly

[fallen phoenix]

Because I do

[cunning glacier]

So do they js not pass it?

[fallen phoenix]

So are u gonna sit here and tell me ace is better than flash, jackpot, or giant?

[cunning glacier]

Def not better than those but ace is def not to be underestimated

[fallen phoenix]

Let me explain why athletic fade sucks: IT HAS COUNTERPLAY

[echo steppe]

i never ever said that

[cunning glacier]

Especially with someone that is good at it

[echo steppe]

what are you on about

[fallen phoenix]

Ace is the only mythic that has counterplay

Simple

[cunning glacier]

Giant has a counterplay

[fallen phoenix]

Really?

If I charge u

[echo steppe]

yeah post form is even easier to block than fadeaway

[fallen phoenix]

And ur on the ground for 5 seconds

Is there counterplay

[cunning glacier]

U lose ur block move

[echo steppe]

less than 5 and wyd when more than one player is near you

[fallen phoenix]

The dunk is unblockable LOOOL

[cunning glacier]

And makes it easier for the other team to score

[fallen phoenix]

WHAT ARENU ON ABT

[cunning glacier]

?

[echo steppe]

obviously i mean the shot

[cunning glacier]

Huh

[fallen phoenix]

Then why do u go for the shot…?

The dunk is UNBLOCKABLE

THERE IS NO COUNTER TO IT

[echo steppe]

cuz ur not always close enough

[fallen phoenix]

yo it always goes up to the nrt

Have u used giant

No way u have used it

[cunning glacier]

And honestly let's be honest

A 2pt shot is worthless

[echo steppe]

yes i have you can join me rn

[fallen phoenix]

…?

[cunning glacier]

Am I wrong

[fallen phoenix]

Uncounterable 2 pointer or a counterable 3 pointer?

Keep in mind

[echo steppe]

counterable 3

[cunning glacier]

Counterable 3

[echo steppe]

just play well

[fallen phoenix]

Yall are tripping

[cunning glacier]

Do we just not have passing to open players in mind?

[fallen phoenix]

This is crazy LOL

U realize u can pass inside post form right

U can easily assist a 3

[echo steppe]

why would i be close enough to use post form and pass

[fallen phoenix]

Because everyone runs to the person in post

[echo steppe]

thats just a waste

pump fake passing a little bit past half court and ur good

[fallen phoenix]

So giant has charge

And post form

On different cooldowns

[cunning glacier]

Honestly

[fallen phoenix]

Thats 2 free baskets

[cunning glacier]

Star > giant

[fallen phoenix]

Ace doesnt even have 1 free basket

What is this downplay

I main giant

[cunning glacier]

I'm not downplaying giant

Star when in the right hand is js op

[fallen phoenix]

It is

Giant is better

Giant is a better star

Snatchblock over star leap

[cunning glacier]

Star is a better giant what

[fallen phoenix]

…???

[echo steppe]

yeah thats just a lie

[cunning glacier]

Star leap is better what

[fallen phoenix]

LOOOOL

[cunning glacier]

???

[echo steppe]

ur not laughing at this i bet

'LOOOL

[fallen phoenix]

Laughing at what

U guys are funny

[cunning glacier]

Why are we severely underestimating star leap

[fallen phoenix]

Snatch block is an instant steal

[echo steppe]

easiest 3 in the game

[fallen phoenix]

Leap has windup

Simple

[cunning glacier]

Star leap has further radius

[fallen phoenix]

Snatch block is a guaranteed turnover lil bro

[echo steppe]

and star leap launchs you

oh here we go

didnt know this guy had the mental age of a toddler

[fallen phoenix]

Its not?

Are u saying its not

Are u bad at using giant or what

[cunning glacier]

Star leap can also be a guaranteed turnoever

What

[fallen phoenix]

If u react to their pass

Its a guaranteed turnover

U have to predict the pass or shot with star

Pure reaction with giant

Not that yall would know

All good

[echo steppe]

the thing is when you have the ball you cant move across the court quickly with giant

[cunning glacier]

Wallahi

[fallen phoenix]

Really?

So u dont know the tech

[cunning glacier]

Star is unbelievable off ball movement

[fallen phoenix]

LOOOL

Yo buddy

[echo steppe]

star isnt as good as giant at defence but it has great offence

[fallen phoenix]

Try shooting the ball from half court then using snatch block

It’ll launch u to an easy three

With the ball in hand

[echo steppe]

star leap does it in half the time

[cunning glacier]

Severely underrating dash and star leap

[fallen phoenix]

No u are downplaying giant yet again

[echo steppe]

rage what do you think about the devs highly considering reworking star

[hot turret]

no😭😭

[cunning glacier]

I wish they keep the move cuz man I love star leap

It's versatile asl

[fallen phoenix]

Giant does pretty much everything star does but better

The only thing star has over it is the speed boost

[echo steppe]

idk why they want to rework star, it looks good, is a good style and is fun

[cunning glacier]

Star also does what giant does

But with way more versatility

[cunning glacier]

Bc people don't see the vision

It's fun asl To play

[fallen phoenix]

Can star knock someone down for 5 seconds on command

Can star instantly snatch the ball midair?

[cunning glacier]

And lose ur block move?

Wallahi

[echo steppe]

can giant get across the entire court in 4 seconds

[fallen phoenix]

Yeah

With snatch block

[sturdy marlin]

Let me off topic man 💔 other people doing it. Go attack em for it smh

[hardy mural]

thats because its boring

why i dont agree with btw

only self-oop and dash need reworks

or at least dash needs a mild change because it's like bottom 3 moves in the game

[hardy mural]

ikr

[hardy mural]

true

but its not as good as giant

snatch block is similar to sky leap

but charge is better than super dunk BY FAR

and post form is so much better than dash

[hardy mural]

sky leap is good i agree im a star main

but u gotta agree that snatch block is equal if not better

dash would be a solid move if they removed the steal aspect

[fresh rain]

THANK YOU

Star enjoyers unite https://discord.com/channels/1326149032384532530/1359967731075518715

Also star leap bypasses pumpfakes and is good for snatching balls

[fresh rain]

True I ain’t gonna lie self oop is a rlly useful move but it’s boring and can be intercepted easily but that’s highly situational it js needs a visual rework

[fresh rain]

True it’s pretty much useless I js wanna catch up to people to block em and I get ankle broken

[hardy mural]

yeah

[hardy mural]

omg thats so annoying

im boutta hit the meanest chasedown block and i jut fall for no reason

[fresh rain]

fr

IKR

[cunning glacier]

dash would be an op move if the steal aspect was remove

[vast ravine]

Jackpot is strong, maybe a little bit too strong, i dont know whats there to debate about.

[vast shadow]

crazy dash distance ngl

[vast ravine]

yes

and the dribble goes a long distance and can even stun you sometimes

[fresh rain]

I’m so tired of jackpot

the steal is so fast and with everything happening I can’t even react

It goes in between my dribbles

The dribble move takes you so far and then you get a free pass that gives you iframes..

Not to mention the awakening where they give you supper powers where you can airbend the ball away from the air

And if u get the jackpot guaranteed steals and dribbles like what?

This ain’t even basketball

[sturdy marlin]

Tbh I find that impossible 😔

[hardy mural]

ok but with the steal aspect its the 4th worst move in the game

its only better than pressure defense, phantom, and jump stop

[vast shadow]

phantom is useful 💀

[twilit shuttle]

Jackpot is good why is everyone saying it’s needs to be buffed 😭🙏

[hardy mural]

fr

[hardy mural]

honestly fair enough its better than goddam dash

[echo steppe]

just mark people with phantom or time it right to do a surprise block

[slender quest]

Bro jackpot is not weak he can steal the ball while the enemy is shooting and while sure it doesn't beat ace in offence or giant in defence but it is a very good middle ground

[sturdy marlin]

No one uses pump fake in my lobby 99% of the time 💔

My steal is collecting dust

[sturdy marlin]

Your point is his ult

It ain't weak but your point suck

For the steal stealing shoot

Idk

I couldn't do it

[slender quest]

They don't need to pump fake just predict it

[sturdy marlin]

I somehow stole a ace tho

[slender quest]

Also if you time it right you can stop both of aces moves with steal

[slender quest]

No my point is base steal

My friend did it to me a bunch that's my I know it's possible

[sturdy marlin]

I only did it once lmao by luck

Probably the only time my steal works

💀

[slender quest]

My friend did it to me like 3 times in one match

[sturdy marlin]

Either he was lucky or he mastered it

[slender quest]

I don't think it was luck since he also did it the next match and he has definitely not mastered it

[sturdy marlin]

😭

[sturdy marlin]

Ok his getting there

[hardy mural]

yep

[icy sleet]

recently the awakening has been bugged

ive used jackpot a few times this weak

week

and every time i get awake

my free full court just doesnt hit

or it makes me drop the ball

or i dont even get the awakening moves

jackpot should be weak though

its a gamble

[late wolf]

Almost 7k comments with 146 reactions 💀

[icy sleet]

its super strong if the gamble pays off

[icy sleet]

actually?

[late wolf]

Yep

[icy sleet]

howd u check the number of comments

[late wolf]

From outside

[icy sleet]

??

[late wolf]

Before u click on the suggestion._.

[hardy mural]

it misses sometimes if you're too far

i think the auto aim just wasnt built to last that long and sometimes it just ends ad bounces off

[sleek vale]

kise is coming basketball rivals 😫

my king

[sturdy marlin]

Too far? Dang I went all the way to the end and it went in 😭

[slender quest]

Yeah sadly he is and not akashi

[cunning glacier]

Even without the gamble