#Jackpot Is Weak.
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Chat I'm starting to get bored of jackpot (probably cuz I can only use ult once a match)

Idk why but the pass is not working sometimes, when i press it, it just drops the ball on the floor
Devs DO NOT listen to suggestions for this reason 😭
And they shouldn't if that's what we be sending
I feel like a majority of the ppl that r saying the steal is weak are just using it in the middle of someone’s 3 dribbles
Just cause it’s a mythic doesnt mean you don’t need to time the skills
U just suck
I can't believe you are any better
i dont understand when people say that cause anyone with a brain and sometimes without one know to pass when u use ur iframes up
well jackpot got buffed either way so we gotta see if OP is satisfied
i see the difference now its nothing to crazy but i think it should be enough
of a difference to be more viable
the carry is to real out here
Yeuh
But people said it too op now. What do ya think
I haven't played it yet
its not much of a difference for people to complain more
its just abit more viable
It's not even a crazy difference
yea most people wont notice the buff
Game breaking buff
😭 alr
A crazy difference would be buffing the awakening
They said it instant now
no
still able to react fast enough if ur like that
ive only bin lucky stealed 1-13 or so times today
So basically they overreacted
It's normal for overreactions to happen
But I think jackpot needed just these 2 buffs and that's it
Cause tbf the first skill range was crazy tight
even then tho if ur teamates know how to pass lucky steal if almost useless
iframe 3 times then pass imediately or pass on 2nd dribble
and no lucky steals are almost gonna happen the whole match
I think jackpot is fine now
my only issue is the jackpot awakening gotta be a 25 percent chance or less to land
out of maybe
40 trys
i landed it 8-15
You saying people land it too much?
i land it less
Oh
and thing is
😭😭🥀
ill land it when i dont need to land it
like at the end of a match
or some bs
or when we 1 score away
from match g ame ending
due to 20 point lead
Buffing the awakening landing chance would prob be crazy tho
yea i can see that
but i mean without that jackpot
the awakening aint even really all that
compared to others
its just sniper awakening kinda
but worst
unless u count the steal
witch is good but bugs out sometimes
Idk bout worse
ok so I tested it and it not even op
well i mean if u think about it
In a match I only get to use it once
whats better
a steal that can lead to not a goal
or a free shot
thats a guranteed goal
so basically whats better
steal or a guranteed goal
take in mind u can steal and mess up
The steal is apart of the base tho
Lucky pull?
Lucky pull is technically a free goal in itself
thing is tho idk if others do it
but anytime a jackpot awakens
i clamp up
imediately
also u can tell if they have pull
they will hang around ur net
most times
Ace is still better
so if someone has pull its somewhat obv
Jackpot doesn’t need another nerf though 😭
i mean if someone has pull they can just chill wait til the enemy team is at ur net
Isn’t it as good as the other myhtics slightly lower
Ye fr
so i always clamp up on jackpots who awaken
so the steal is easy to counter
if ur not brainless
although things can go wrong
That brainless argument again
basically what im trying to say is
jackpot without 777 is basically as good as sniper awakening
yea u can argue but it has steal
not just the free shot
Interesting take, despite sniper is more predictable
Here's how you can counter jackpot lucky pull. If they didn't use lucky shot immediately when open then it lucky pull. Go behind the person cuz the ball won't land on them accurately 😭
jackpots free shot is blockable
If someone uses jackpot shot
To the point where someone can block ot
It
I wouldn't degrade jackpot
That's just a heavy IQ issue
Btw is the ball from lucky pull supposed to go behind you? I did it while standing and the ball did not land on me
but what im tryna say is
We already had this convo
I forgot 💔
when it dont land
the 7s
i mean most get 2 moves
jackpot is limited to 1 move if the 7s miss
I mean it's not surprising ain't it
It's called jackpot for a reason
Your stating the obvious tho, ofc the awakening doesn't hit it's full potential it's gonna be worse
If they're gambling for something op and they fail ofc the awakening is gonna be worse
That's wat the whole gambling theme is about
This is just common sense
i know but 7 times b2b?
That's you twin
on 3 diff times
You just unlucky then
Then you could consider the opposite
Seen a friend land on this multiple times in a row I thought it was 90/10
i mean possibly yea
could make sense
but i mean if u was me having that bad luck
u would not just say nothing
It's cool to say something yfm, but wat you're saying. Is just what it is
If you fail at a jackpot RNG awakening ofc it's not gonna be as good as other movesets
But that succeeding RNG is wat make it crazy at full potential
although i dont think jackpot is bad by any means i just think people over glaze it sometimes
cause when something is based on rng
it can only be as good as ur luck allows u
Idk bout the people who glaze it
I can't speak for them ifel
Icel
I understand glazing the awakening buffs
But overall I say it's not tooooo crazy
Depends on what the nerfs are
true but if they was to nerf
it wouldnt be some small
cause the base form aint op as it sits
so they would nerf the awakening
The awakening is really what gives it that gap between styles
exactly
if jackpot didnt have that in its awakening
it would be midish
midish to good slightly
Yeah I can't disagree
Good statement icel
and easy to use
Way more reliable on a general basis
Sure the lucky dice is cool in the awakening but wat u really want is the buffs
so if u have bad luck like me and constantly get the wrong roles at the wrong time
see theres alot of rng that goes into it
Nah your bad luck is crazy icel
the steal has rng
the awakening has 2 rngs
so its easy to get the wrong things at the wrong times
Yeah I understand your point
like the only move i find most useful from the steal
is dash
who needs a free pass or stun
when u can dash to a free net
Lucky stun could b p good to cut down on the matchups
Like if someone had flash for instant or giant
but why need to stun or free pass
when theres a long dash
thats a free goal basically
I do prefer the dash the most
the amount of times i got the pass when my team was behind me
thats what i dont like about the pass
if u steal from a enemy
on they side of the court
ur most likely further then ur whole team
what u needa pass backwards for
and the window to use it is so short
Oh I never realized cause I usually got lucky stun or dash
the pass has no time to pass by the time u dribble once or twice its gone
man i got it from when it came out
and ive bin through it all
d1 hater when it first dropped
ive found beyond many issues with it
and they still exist
i believe
especially at the start the range on the bounce was horrible
people could steal before u can use it
lucky steal was the same range almost as a normal steal
with windup
and travel distance
a thing that happens alot too
and it sucks when it does
if u lucky bounce over someone
sometimes it will drop the ball
to the enemy
or stay on the ground
same with snatch block
and flash dash
happens with them aswell
and the pull
it should come straight to ur arms
with jackpots
awakening
but instead it passes thru u
and rolls away from u
I heard that only happens when you constantly move though
i win
Which if you have a clip I could use it rq
if ur close to the ball when u pull it
It hasn't happened when you're afar?
it rolls thru u in my experience
if ur really far
like at they net when u pull it
if will roll just right behind u
or stop infront of u
then u gotta walk 2 steps to it
i feel like it should come straight into ur hands
auto grab to u
sinces its a awakening move
also one thing i always thouht
thought about lucky steal
is if instead
it traced the ball
instead of the player
holding it
and say a person shoots the ball
if its a certain distance away
u will not be able to track
but like say u use it when someone passes and its like 5 feet away thru the air
u can track it
and take
That would be a crazy buff icel
i mean depending on what they do with the range
it wouldnt be to ground breaking
or atleast be able to steal the ball when its on the ground
Tho who would waste a jackpot steal on a pass tho
i just feel
Ok so someone tell me what happened breh. I use the jackpot steal on this guy (he didn't dribble, didn't pass or didn't shoot. So how did I somehow miss the steal? I didn't even fly to him it just stopped half way)
it would make it a tad bit more reliable
that exactly
happens to me alot
forgot about that one
Got a clip at all
What the hell is that 😭
Or is this word is bond
ill steal at perfect times where they holding the ball
Nope sadly
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It already did bro
I love the dribbling skill now
i mean the steal aint too too bad
Lol
dribbling?
but i can still use some extra although if it didnt
Dude wants flash
Where is my stun
wouldnt be too too bad
Where is my dash
Ye the range increase
honestly
Bro jackpot steal range is barely anything
this is what they did
Overreacting people smh
they buffed jackpots steal and lucky bounce by 1-2 feet
I thought I could finally steal from half a court like someone said so
maybe 0.4
Ye just call it lucky steal. Jackpot steal is too long
Lol
"instant" half court steal. Game breaking buff yap yap
my only issue on jackpot in my experience is everything is just unreliable
😭
theres to many downs to it
It just missed completely
That's the point
First time happening to me
u would think im on ice
🤔
with so much rng to jackpot it deserves to have some reliablity
to earn its place as a mythic
Honestly with the wind up being lesser. Is there anything new that I could try with the steal?
i mean giant i can use that and smack ace i can use that and smack
jackpot i can use it and smack or get smacked
i mean even wit bad luck i still carry my teams but still
thats besides the point
i dont think it needs to exactly be reliable in terms of luck
but the execution of the moves
themselfs
like if u take it this way
Only problem I've heard is jackpot steal
snatch block and charge
easy as hell to use
yea tbh thats about it
but since thats apart of jackpots base form
its a big part of succeeding thru out the match
So are u tryna say it's not reliable cause that 1 move brings the overall moveset down
what im saying is as lucky steal is its hard to use even if ur good it can be hard and ontop of that u already gotta deal with rng
Considering the type of moveset it is, it makes sense
Not every moveset is gonna be the same, it applies to any game
what im saying is
u can throw me ace or giants base form
and imma cook
to easily
im not even talking about the rng
U said RNG on top of it
just the execution of the steal
Tbh I don't feel like there's enough gambling mechanic for base jackpot
So I assumed so
The gambling isn't meant to be on crazy timing
It's a RNG of wat u get afterwards
they added 1-2 extra range to bounce and lucky steal and 0.2 seconds off of steal windup
and called it a buff
Breh ye but since I rarely get to use steal properly. It feels like it lacking in gambling
i mean yea its a buff
The only complaint I'm hearing is jackpot steal alone icel
thats all from me too
Other than that I'm not getting anything else from this
lucky bounce no issues
all tho one thing i can say is
if ur fast
its not hard to follow up with someone who lucky bounces thru u
ive done it a few times
and smacked the ball before they shoot
Eh just pass
If someone catches up to you, while you're using lucky bounce. Unless it's not flash or giant that's a crazy skill issue
That's not even a jackpot issue
and i catch them
Lol
like if u only have 1 dribble
'after u lucky bounce
u can get caught up too
if ur 5 feet from the line
around they net
This sounds like a crazy skill issue more than a jackpot issue icel
So I'll overlook this
well it really depends if u used all ur dribbles'
or have 1 to spare
u can get caught up too
and blocked
in my experience againts people atleast
not to big a issue tho
If u using up all your dribbles surely you're already down the court
If u use a stun move surely u can score
If you're already down the court
well it really just depends on the scenario
honestly what id like more is
actually
that would maybe be to op
what if steal had just dash
and lucky bounce had
yea no
Lucky bounce is already good as it is
yea i dont think its bad'
i like it more
then the steal tbh
in terms of execution
its super easy to use
steal on the other hand
1-2 range and maybe 0.2 seconds off windup
it is a buff yes
but even then
if u never'
tested jackpot before the buff
ur not noticing the difference
i can notice it to a degree cause i tested it 1 on 1 with someone
What is bro point here?
Lel
I'm here to listen to feedback so
Doesn't bother me
i mean one change i think that would be nice

even if no extra range is added
so say u shoot or pass
it wont chase
is instead of stealing at the player
Do you think that
it locks to the ball
If jackpot steal was to be replaced by lucky bounce in the awakening
Your opinion of jackpot would go up more
so like
instead of the steal that brings it to u in the awakening
thats in the base form?
Well lucky steal is op when you win the jackpot cuz the range is there so idk
and lucky bounce is in awakening?
If you lost the jackpot then sure lucky bounce would be way better
if u win the jackpot its good but u only use it once
So ye I'm asking switch it with the other base move
its better to save it
for when u cant guranteed steal
and just normal steal
since is free
if u land 777
I think in overall it'd be more op since lucky steak is more punishing
Yea
yea thats all i dont like is there is alot of punishment
to jackpot
i mean yea
thats the gig
luck vs no luck
if u miss the steal u skate on ice
and all the rng
plus hard to land steal
the rng tho
thats its gig
so u cant complain
but i mean certain things can be useless
If the steal was all the way buffed to where u could land it constantly, the RNG rewarding for it would be less complaints tbf
thats my point
i really dont care about the rng
but when the base form is unreliable
or one of its better moves is
it just gets to a point
I mean if it was reliabs it really wouldn't be RNG atp cause then the base form would be great
The first base move is alr p good
Very reliable
yea bounce is good its a simply by pass
ace has its own version with iframe dribble
giant has its own version charge
although charge has more range longer ragdoll stun
and iframe dribble can be used for distance
and not need to have people infront of u
the lucky bounce tho
less distance shorter stun
still good tho
just not as good as iframe dribble and charge
So in terms of base. Jackpot is actually lower than giant and ace?
100 percent
its not bad dont get me wrong
just u can pick up ace and giant and do great
in base form
its easy to use
Oh yea
So you'd say jackpot is mythical level but in terms of it's mythical tier it's the lowest because it's not reliable
Yea
if u mean the rng reliable stand point i dont care much
Which makes sense cuz it gambling
but since the base form aint that good

compared to its mythic counter parts
well having rng
ontop of that
it out weights the pros to cons
like giant and ace are good even without having rng that would benefit them
jackpot is already worst base form even without rng
then giant and ace
Imma ss this when someone said jackpot is better than other mythical as a base
it would be on par if steal was more reliable to use
but like i said ace iframe dribble and giants charge is lucky bounce in diff forms
Yea but if it reliable. It would be op
If it was on par jackpot would be way better than ace base
and they both are better
yea u can say that
but i know some people out there
are really techy
with the juke
and even if u are good
they will get u sometimes
most times
Comparing the juke to probably if a buffed jackpot steal was constant and the stun move that launches u forward a good amount
Even with the tech jackpot can clear
I think just rework the steal. Take it out cuz a reliable steal is just illegal 😭
Plus ace tech actually requires a brain since it's very easy to mess up
But it not reliable so it stays
i guess but i mean someone whos decent can do the tech easy enough somewhat
the left left or right right
or even backwords forwards
I think the backwards forward would be too easy to block
Maybe the side stuff would b better
like u turn sidways go towards ur side then back to theres
but yeah
the others are better
if u aint using giant
u probs cant really block it
or star
Giant base is all the way better then ace base imo
they create to much distance
Imo I think it's overall just better
easily but u can get more use
outta ace
cause it has the dribble
and the juke
so distance iframe
Is post form gud for giant?
I don't even use it cuz it hard to activate it
Damn near unsoltoppable
u gotta pick between snatch block or charge
Oh
U can use post form for a 3 pointer if we talking bout tech
And the post hook is damn near unlockable unless you're being teamed
honestly id prefer snatch block and charge being 2 seperate moves
I can only use post form if I charge em into the paint
but some would argue it would be to op
If it was separate it'd be, too crazy braindead
or most
But that would make the snatch on cd. I don't want that so I don't really use charge
or like
u have snatch block
and charge
but if u use snatch block first
charge goes on cd
Oh fr
That's if it was separate
cause if u think of it
when u charge someone
u most likely have a goal lined up
so snatch block
would be rendered use less
So your saying if we use charge. Snatch doesn't go into CD?
what in saying is
snatch block and charge to seperate moves
if u use snatch block first
charge enters cd
so u can punish anymore
but if u charge first
u still have snatch block ready to use
That would be op no?
well think of it
You can make em ragdoll and shoot with no block
when u charge someone
While you can still defend next round
u most likely already have a free goal
Giant is already "op" as it is (cause of how easy simple it is to use and there's no drawback to it)
so u wont get more use out of it that round
but tbh
everything im saying about giant rn
is not needed at all
just a idea
i mean the awakening is trash
Charge makes a free point. And then you can use snat h as defend
Ok I agree on that one
the best thing about using giants awakening
I barely get to use it
is the dribbles resetting
Dawg someone was arguing that jackpot was the best style in the game so much so that Giant and Ace could be considered Legendary
to dribble 3 times again
yea thats beyond slow
They over overreacting
Badly
jackpot is made by its awakening and thats not a gurantee
Jackpot isn't the best style in the game respectfully
The steal is barely ok
in all honestly
i prefer flash almost over it
And that's fine that it isn't 😭😭😭
Tbh there’s two suggestions I feel that would make Jackpot be CRAZY op
But we dont need wm
Em
Im fine with how jackpot is
Fair, flash in itself is good
Ether make lucky steal 5050 or rework and replace it with another move
it got a iframe dash dribbles and a ankle breaker dribble
its base form gotsss soo much
that will help u reliably
Fr
like thats hella distance
Im not mad at what it has rn but the suggestion I had with being able to use the steal when no one is in possession of it still isn’t bad
2 traveling moves 1 that breaks ankles of anyone 3 feet around u
But I say just to balance it out u dont get an extra move
Flash could be debatabley mythical level if the awakening was op
The instant steal at your own court is not bad tho
It's not crazy to say this, if anything that's how it's suppose to be

It called the flash for a reason
If a mythical was still better than a legendary despite its strongest move that's suppose to gap it
thing is tho to say a legendarys base form is much better then a mythical
That'd be a problem
I feel like Jackpot should last the whole awakening so u dont feel useless once all ur cooldowns are in play seeing as the best way to counter jackpot is just to pass
Ye true
i wouldnt say the whole awakening
but maybe til 30 percent
25-35 percent
of ur awakening bar
But uh the instant point thx to 100% steal + lucky steal would be gud already
instead of 40-50
That’s assuming u use it during that period
Cuz the timer can still be 30 seconds even after u lose awakening as long as u use the move before u lose awakening
Wait
I said that taice
I mean, the best way to really counter any type of awakening, is to really pass in general unless you got flash or giant
Twice
So
true
I think I should do that tbh
i actually forgot flash gots the steal'
in the awakening
I mean you playing smart against a awakening is fine I mean shoot it's good that you're playing smart
Like 100% steal with 100% ankle break could go well with the dribbling skill
that further strengthens my thoughts
Keep the ball away from the person that's awakened
That's like
A smart idea in itself excluding jackpot alone
Lol
Doesn't matter if jackpot use lucky pull but luckily it easy to counter lucky pull
thats the only thing i dislike jackpot is the only mythical that can be on par with some of the legendarys
or 1 of them atleast
That’s the only reason why I pop jackpot when someone has the ball in front of them
So if I win it
I’m gonna get a steal
And if I lose. I pray the other guy is not spamming dribble as I'm spamming steal
It works sometimes
If jackpot was still ace and giant level, despite if it were to have RNG drawbacks, I think that would be a problem in itself lol
So it's good it's that way...
honestly i say dont touch the rng at all and just figure something out about lucky steal
We alr discussed lucky steal
thats all i care about tbh
everything else makes sense
and its not like i think its exactly bad
That's cool but it already got buffed, and majority of the community find it good as it is rn
but its not good when u compare stuff
Anything more is unnecessary
yea tbh if it dont get anymore buffs its whatever tbh
its not that big of a issue
tho if i end up rolling giant or ace
0.2 buffs frfr
jackpot will sit in storage
Did anyone check the range of lucky steal after buff
It doesn't even look different
I’d be satisfied if u could use it on a loose ball but das asking for too much
I got giant and jackpot
The only reason I'm using jackpot is cuz of the theme song tbh

yea i ended up spinning my giant got jackpot then bought a new slot
cause i didnt like jackpot much but didnt wanna spin it away
cause its a mythic and might get buffs
People already complaining bout jackpot, wake up and say jackpot can get loose balls that's already outrageous
I need to buy another new slot. I'm not spinning away jackpot and giant 💔
Unless I find jackpot boring and there's another style that looks fun and reliable
Giant has upped my standards mane
only thing id actually but rn if it was to get a buff
Giant is like a perfect moveset icel
is to make the steal track the ball no the player
Why did giant steal exists tho. Didn't anyone complain about that
I think it upholds the mythical standards
You can steal anything ball in the air
Snatch block?
Ye
I mean it kinda makes sense for it to do that
Guh
when it comes down to it when people say jackpots bad thats fully cap
but it could be abit better
Plus let someone waste their snatch block on something of a pass anyways, that means they don't have their charge too
So at the end it's not a problem anyways till another 15-25+ seconds
Or wtv the CD is
yall ever had a teamate who snatch block ur shots to score it themselfs
U must be playing with some assholes then
yupppp
Lol
I do that but lucky pull
ANDRE GO MAKE MY VFX INSTEAD OF YAPPING 😭🙏🏽
God forbid someone talks about the game in the server that's meant for the game
😭
Gimme your user ID rq
is meant for talks
Lol
lean if u was to change anything to lucky steal as is
What dat mean
what do u think would make the most sense
I’m slow
Explain in bbz terms
Lol
Idc about that
0 ovr

But
Nah no bs I accidently gave someone negative lucky spins
would this be interesting at all remove lucky bounce and the rng u get if u land lucky steal becomes a ability
Wouldn’t blacklisted?
Twin what classes we taking
💔✌🏽
but lucky steal becomes way more reliable
😭
🥷🥷
I almost got twisted by @sterile sun
Why can't I say slurs man
Gun to my head compensate the person or die
Lol
i feel like removing lucky bounce and adding lucky steals rng as a ability instead and make the steal guranteed
Icel
would be interesting
"make the steal guaranteed"
So you would not compensate if you have no gun to your head?

Not tryna get yelled at by a supervisor yfm?
Lol
Wait a admin has higher authority than a lead dev?
Coulda been different
i feel like guranteed wouldnt hurt or something that just makes it super reliable
I like to respect people's positions
but can have a downside
Oh
Yfm?
W lean
Lean?
Name too long
Leandre is Dave blunts?????

💀
Man
what if lucky steals rng becomes a ability remove lucky bounce and lucky steal is gurantee if the opponent used 1 dribble already
so they have a chance to still take ur ankles
with reaction time
or they just pass
idk tbh atp
1/3
6'2 actually 🤓
Bowlegged?
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Maybe pigeon toed?
Ah nah
I don't have dreads tho
So u one of dem curly hair typa lightskins
I don't have curly hair yet
Imagine not being dreadheaded (me btw)
So we rocking a short fro?
For now, I just started regrowing it 4-5 months ago
Rn I'm actually dying it
I came back from a pharmacy for some dye
Like let it grow sum more
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woah I’m not your twin bruduski you are NOT a lightskin dreadhead that’s fine asf and pulls ALL the huzz in the distances of 40 meters
Wait
So u in college?
I don't go to college
Ohhh
So u completed the main story
U not doing the dlc
Hn gng
Saying highschool is the main story is like saying highschool is your peak
yo lean since yall added a hakari style hes from jjk does that mean the game will see other animes such maybe like bleach one piece dragon ball z bleach just random things i dont watch anime but i know a few
🥷🥷🥷
Gang
U make 5 dollars an hour
😭🙏🏽
What’s the difference 💔
Who knows
CHILL
cause honestly thats so many free updates in due time
if thats the route yall take
endless content
be honest tho
To be fair BBZ is just a basketball game alone, it's not tied to 1 subject
yea i can see that attracting a very wide player base
if thats the case
I never read it cause it looked like yap
So u just liked it and moved on
💀
Yeah
A clashing idea? We don't even have game modes in the game yet
So will there be any type of clashing system tho
If there was I wouldn't say some about it anyways
And that goes for p much anything
I mean it would be fire in my opinion
not gonna lie
a tournament game mode would be tough
20 players everyone 1v1s
til the last 2
or 10
not 20
So we just gatekeeping
Aigh
I see how it is
The moment I say some it's being screenshotted and spreaded like wildifre
Bet u if u said u was retiring this would NOT happen
😭✌🏽
Guess we'll never know
why bro think he Kanye 💔
Holy glaze
nah
