Please buff the steal of jackpot

[keen hare]

atp its worse than a normal steal, the windup bro its basically unusable keep in mind this is a MYTHIC MOVE

[clever knot]

fact

[limpid vortex]

horrible suggestion get better takes

[sterile cradle]

its not meant to be the most broken thing

its also a very skillful move

[keen hare]

You probably dont have jackpot, well the ones that have giant agree

[keen hare]

worse than a steal move?

[delicate herald]

the steal goes across 1/3rd of the map

💔

[keen hare]

"e" is literally better

[sterile cradle]

its meant to be a dash steal

and dawg

[hushed mason]

just got jackpot and his steal sucks ngl

[keen hare]

keep in mind when u miss too BTW

[slate reef]

2 second startup easy as hell to see and easy as hell to dribble on

[sterile cradle]

e is obv more optimial because it literally is skill thing

[delicate herald]

complaining about jackpot is so crazy

[keen hare]

U GET FLUNG THROUGH THE MAP

[slate reef]

its a worse version of dash

lets be honest

[sterile cradle]

like also

it just released bro

[slate reef]

im against lard eaters

[keen hare]

u dont got him bro

[sterile cradle]

like give it a day

[slate reef]

and they arent even falling for it

[slate reef]

wdym give it a day

no one is falling for it now

def not later

[delicate herald]

so we just making jackpot more unplayable against than it is already?

yeah yeah

great idea

[keen hare]

how is it unplayable?

[timid brook]

jackpot is not that unfair

[delicate herald]

yk what we should give it base 5 more dribbles on jackpot

[slate reef]

anyone with more then two braincells isnt ever falling for it

ok so were saying

long range dash

[hushed mason]

tbh just make the steal better and its fine

[keen hare]

jackpot has 1 iso move that crosses ur opponent

and says

[delicate herald]

increadible idea

[slate reef]

that gets countered by dribble spammers

[keen hare]

YES HES OP!!

[slate reef]

is a good move

[keen hare]

yh my whole point

[slate reef]

exactl

[sterile cradle]

your acting like you also cant just play off it, since people gonna know u have jackpot they know u can just dash at them, which might lead to early dribbles

[slate reef]

please

[delicate herald]

it ONLY goes across 1/3rds of the map?!?! we should make it the whole way

ong

[sterile cradle]

im just saying the move isnt even that bad

[slate reef]

yeah you know what that would be smart on paper

[timid brook]

it does NOT go 1/3 of the map

[alpine yoke]

please do this chrollo

[slate reef]

if the move didnt have

[keen hare]

tell me u dont have jackpot without tellin me

[slate reef]

a 2 second

startup

[keen hare]

his range is not 1/3 btw

[sterile cradle]

it does bro ngl

[keen hare]

pls get it right

[sterile cradle]

that i agfgree with

like

[delicate herald]

tell me i cant do nun without a good playstyle without telling me

[sterile cradle]

make it shorter

also it goes like

[slate reef]

either make it a close range steal

[sterile cradle]

if we being honest

1/4 of the map

[keen hare]

????????

[sterile cradle]

Kinda

in a way

[keen hare]

u js agreed

[slate reef]

the steal part of it

[timid brook]

1/4 i can get behind

[sterile cradle]

yes

I agreed to the windup

being too long

[timid brook]

windup is terrible yh

[sterile cradle]

thats my only problem with it

tbh

[keen hare]

• gotta fix when u get ankle broken with it

[delicate herald]

nah nah we should make it frame 1

[keen hare]

u get sent to other court

[open sequoia]

guys pls remove phantom

[delicate herald]

and hyperarmour + antisteal

[keen hare]

keep sayin those stuff bro no one agrees w u

[slate reef]

like you know the move is trash

[delicate herald]

dont forget to have autopiolet so we dont even have to play the game

[slate reef]

why would i ever want this steal

over the flash dash

multi purpose

steal

block

and cross

[keen hare]

its like ur playing with 1 move rn

[slate reef]

fr

[delicate herald]

great ideas guyslets keep them rolling

[slate reef]

and the worse part

[slate reef]

make the windup shorter

litterally

thats it

[delicate herald]

give it a domain expansion

might as well right

haha

[keen hare]

🌽 🏀

[slate reef]

why are you acting like anyone is saying make it undribbleable

or sometihng

litterally just decrease the windup

all we want

right now jackpot base

[hushed mason]

just make the windup faster and it becomes better than it is alreday

[slate reef]

is a worse playmaker

• a worse flash

[charred phoenix]

instead of a wind up it should be no wind up at all, make it instant bc again its a mythic ability, plus ur gambling in itself if the player dribbled in that time or not.

[slate reef]

for a mythic

[hushed mason]

faster

🔥

[slate reef]

????

are you

in classes with two teachers

[delicate herald]

yeah make it tp to the opponent like release flash

[slate reef]

??

[delicate herald]

GREAT idea bro

[slate reef]

like what are you talking about

[delicate herald]

yo put this man on the bal;ance team

[slate reef]

i stg i hate some of these players

they dont understand that frame 1 moves

arent a good thing

for games

[fast lance]

@delicate herald, please do not tag/ping that member.

[slate reef]

no windup

dash

[vivid plume]

you guys like complaining

[slate reef]

that gives you another move

[vivid plume]

make a better suggestion

[bronze karma]

Yall are arguing that the best style in the game needs a buff you cant be that bad right

[delicate herald]

😭

[slate reef]

the suggestion is make the windup shorter

basically

[keen hare]

GET OUT BOI U DO NOT GOT JACKPOT!!

[slate reef]

please tell me how the steal

[vivid plume]

it has a long windup

[slate reef]

is good

[lofty sedge]

this suggestion is some butt just use jackpot steal better

[keen hare]

pls tell me hows he the best style

[vivid plume]

i do

[slate reef]

uh huh

so

[delicate herald]

🌽 🏀

[slate reef]

long windup

right

that is easily countered

[subtle glacier]

why the joint be taking so long to do

[vivid plume]

So its basically useless because whos going to fall for a super long windup steal?

[slate reef]

by anyone with a brain

[keen hare]

tell me how is the steal good?

[delicate herald]

💔

[subtle glacier]

make it a lil faster

[slate reef]

yes

[vivid plume]

i didnt say it good or bad

whered you get that from?

[slate reef]

thats our problem

[lofty sedge]

its the only steal ability in the game that can steal after someone pump fakes

[delicate herald]

guys guys

[lofty sedge]

its good the way it is rn

[vivid plume]

yes that is indeed

our problem

[keen hare]

make a better suggestion the suggestion is literally buff the steal move

[delicate herald]

make it able to timestop the whole area for 2 minutes too

[quiet river]

chat if it was a good steal jackpot would be incredibly busted 😭

[slate reef]

steal after a pumpfake

clutch does the same thing

normal steal can

[keen hare]

ITS WORSE THAN A NORMAL STEAL

[vivid plume]

WELL the steal move is bad considering its a mythic so i would still say buff it

[keen hare]

IT HAS A WORSE WINDUP

[vivid plume]

in some way

[slate reef]

litterally the windup is so long it steals after

[delicate herald]

just make it so every ball it shoots in base from anywhere make it in

[slate reef]

the pumpfake

[vivid plume]

but not instant steal..

[charred phoenix]

can we also talk abt how mid 777 is

[lofty sedge]

pump fake has iframes so you cant steal it right away. jackpot steal goes through pump fake iframes

[subtle glacier]

?

[delicate herald]

make it so it also its gurenteed jacktop too

word

[open sequoia]

remove phantom

[delicate herald]

GREAT suggestion guys

[slate reef]

litterally got ankled broken on a jackpot pumpfake

[delicate herald]

keep going

[slate reef]

and went through them

and then heres the next problem

bait out dribbles

[lofty sedge]

bc people dribble and pump fake at the same time bro?

never heard of that

[slate reef]

then do the shot pass tech

what happens

move

useless

[open sequoia]

remove sniper,phantom,star,clutch

[slate reef]

honestly clutch steal is better then it

[keen hare]

boi why chill

[slate reef]

flash is better

just rework the move

[open sequoia]

imagine playing phantom in the BIG 25

[slate reef]

the style is an all rounder i get it

but

[open sequoia]

worst character

[delicate herald]

^^

[keen hare]

yet u didnt even give us a reason on how its op

😭

[lofty sedge]

its a the best style in the game bro

[delicate herald]

^^^

[open sequoia]

bro guys

what is the point of sniper

[slate reef]

so

[open sequoia]

like actually

[slate reef]

to fix this problem

get rid of the steal

[lofty sedge]

literally has snipers full court shot installed into it, kurokos bullet pass, and lucky pull which can pull the ball in mid air

[slate reef]

and rework it

also how is this style better then giant in any way

[delicate herald]

word like just remove it and give the abilites to jackpot

[slate reef]

shape

or form

the style that has a guarenteed dunk

[keen hare]

u dont get all those moves btw lol

[slate reef]

and a goaltend

[open sequoia]

exactly

[lofty sedge]

awk kinda no diffs giant

[slate reef]

is worse

then the playmaker

reskin

we cant be srs

[delicate herald]

hope yall are hearing yourselves 🙏

[lofty sedge]

all of them are guaranteed goals if your not a completely stupid

[subtle glacier]

just make the windup a lil faster and call it a day

[slate reef]

exactly

my point

[delicate herald]

gurenteed sniper ult btw wihtout their mode ending

[keen hare]

OH WOW I USED MY AWAKENING, I GET A GURANTEED GOAL I DIDNT KNOW

[lofty sedge]

what im saying 😭

[delicate herald]

btw

btw

[lofty sedge]

ankle breaker on collision and guaranteed steal

and yall saying its not the most op style

[slate reef]

a steal in general is a dumb move for this character

just get rid of the steal

and make it a coinflip or something

cards

for the ability

[delicate herald]

just get rid of yourselves and lobotomize 💔

[lofty sedge]

i literally just 21-0 some guy in a 1v1 with gambler and he was using giant bro

[keen hare]

what r his moves in awk?

[lofty sedge]

🙏

[keen hare]

js that and the jackpot

and u can miss it

lol

[slate reef]

fighting bad players does not make the style good

[dusky echo]

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[fervent gale]

bro claw steal moves faster than this

[dusky echo]

disappears

[delicate herald]

you have jackpot and ur asking me

💔

[lofty sedge]

he was good bro?

[fervent gale]

if it at least had good range it wouldnt be a problem

[lofty sedge]

and how can you be bad with giant

[delicate herald]

this HAS to be rihtorical

[slate reef]

clearly not if he lost to that

[delicate herald]

this cant be a real suggestion nor real people

[fervent gale]

the range is so small you literally are better off normally stealing

[slate reef]

yeah

your dumb

the rnage isnt short

[grim wagon]

I personally think because of how this style is kinda RNG based we can have 3 different results of jackpot steal
40% - steal fail
40% - regular steal attempt with dash (can get ankle broken if timed wrong)
20% - guaranteed steal

[slate reef]

the move itself isnt wrong

the WINDUP

[keen hare]

ppl with giant vs 1 guy who dont got giant

[slate reef]

is bad

[delicate herald]

1/3rd of the map btw

[fervent gale]

clearly you dont have jackpot lol

[lofty sedge]

it should just have increased range not faster windup

[fervent gale]

the range is short brudda

[slate reef]

i have it

[keen hare]

Not 1/3rd

[fervent gale]

anyone who says otherwise doesnt have jackpot

[delicate herald]

you must not be able to count

[slate reef]

its not that short

[fervent gale]

LOL

[keen hare]

pls stop glazing jackpot like u have him

[hazy glacier]

the steal is nto buns this game isnt blr dont expect to get the ball back for free its stil lwildly op it actually needs a nerf. u can steal from a pump fake with it ugh

[slate reef]

the thing is 1/4

1/3

of the map

genuine if you think

[fervent gale]

😭😭

[slate reef]

you need more range

ON A STEAL

[fervent gale]

do u have jackpot

[slate reef]

your

something else

[lofty sedge]

i thought it would be like flash's dash + steal but flash's dash steals way farther

[slate reef]

yes

[fervent gale]

if the windup is gonna be that buns at least give us range

[delicate herald]

youre so damn right, it should just be able to go across the whole map since its high risk hakari style right

[slate reef]

dont give range

give faster windup

way more balanced solution

[keen hare]

Pls do not talk

[slate reef]

to the problem

[keen hare]

if u dont have jackpot

[delicate herald]

gambler right haha

[brazen sky]

https://discord.com/channels/1326149032384532530/1357852501163901060

[slate reef]

jackpot will never be good in any situation

that isnt a 1v1

[fervent gale]

what style do you have

[lofty sedge]

you know all of the variants after you use jackpot steal are op ash

[delicate herald]

please dont talk if you dont have a brain 🙏

[keen hare]

and?

[slate reef]

yeah dumb dev decisions arent a good thing

[keen hare]

how r u hitting that

btw

[slate reef]

op ability

for a move you almost never hit

[fervent gale]

😭😭😭

[delicate herald]

wheres your father

[slate reef]

thats just a bad

concept

in general

[lofty sedge]

like lucky dash sends you across half of the map
and lucky stun wins in every 1 on 1

[delicate herald]

is he playing basketball zero too

[slate reef]

jackpot is buns if it isnt 1v1

[fervent gale]

ur the one with dat corny ahh re zero pfp lol

[keen hare]

lol

[slate reef]

and thats becuase it has the dribble

[keen hare]

cornball

[fervent gale]

lucky pass??

[slate reef]

phantom is better at passing

pumpfake passing

[delicate herald]

ur pfp is getting backshots idc

[slate reef]

also exist

[fervent gale]

nooo almost like thats its whole style 🤯🤯🤯

[lofty sedge]

just jackpot steal if they are pump fake passing?

[civic sun]

jackpot isnt mean to have good defenses tf play giant, not to mention jackpot has a stunning blitz by move

[slate reef]

wow that would be crazy

if the windup

wasnt 2 seconds

right

like do you read what your typing

[fervent gale]

if it isnt made for good defense WHY HAVE A DEFENSIVE MOVE

[slate reef]

who IS TKAING

2 SECNDS

[blissful fulcrum]

its not thaaaat bad

[lofty sedge]

they gonna waste their dribbles and then pump fake pass bro

[keen hare]

only 1 move btw, giant literally has that move too and has +1 move

[lofty sedge]

😂

[blissful fulcrum]

it has good range

[slate reef]

TO PUMPFAKE PASS

[final umbra]

The wind up is what makes the move not good

[slate reef]

so your saying

[lofty sedge]

if you cant predict then dont ply any game

[civic sun]

cuz all rounder styles exist?

[slate reef]

if they spam their dribbles

the steal is good

[civic sun]

not everything has to be hyper offensive like ace

[slate reef]

IF THEY USE THEIR DRIBBLES

INCORRECTLY

[blissful fulcrum]

it has good range

[slate reef]

THE STEAL IS GOOD

[blissful fulcrum]

u can catch em off guard

[delicate herald]

dont bother to argue they are all gone 💔

[slate reef]

GUYS

[civic sun]

or defensive/only good in post like giant

[dawn tartan]

Guys ik y’all r complaining and all bit can u guys check out the game mode I suggested pls

[lofty sedge]

you should be able to know when someones boutta pass

[slate reef]

IF YOU MISS THE BUCKET

[lofty sedge]

🥀

[slate reef]

THE BLOCK IS GOOD

[keen hare]

make it worse than a normal steal WOW THATS AN ALL ROUNDER!

[delicate herald]

💔

[slate reef]

ahh yes

because it takes 2 seconds

to pass

[final umbra]

It has good range but THE WIND UP IS WHAT MAKES THE MOVE BAD

[slate reef]

right

def not the half a second

action

right

[blissful fulcrum]

BUT THE MOVE ISNT BAD

[civic sun]

how is it worse? its on par if not slightly better

[slate reef]

because everyone also uses all three dribbles

right

[fervent gale]

the wind up makes it bad

[slate reef]

and everyone times themselves

[lofty sedge]

ive stolen pumpfake passes with jackpot steal bro

[slate reef]

the same

right

[lofty sedge]

you just some major butt

[fervent gale]

its not the move itself its just the dog booty wind up

[keen hare]

AHH I DIDNT KNOW STEAL TAKES 2 SECONDS TOO!

[slate reef]

until they actrually jump

[delicate herald]

@fervent gale but it should go across the whole map right

[slate reef]

then what happens

[civic sun]

not to mention jackpot rn has the best drive frame 1 drive move

[slate reef]

what if they just pass during there shot

[blissful fulcrum]

i think its good but i guess i see where ur coming from

[fervent gale]

wrd

[slate reef]

what about that pumpfake pass

[delicate herald]

yeah yeah

[slate reef]

what are you doing there

[blissful fulcrum]

its not good to use raw tho u have to strategize

[slate reef]

using your 2 second windup steal

on that

right

[delicate herald]

yall are braindead

[keen hare]

wow, js like other moves

[lofty sedge]

thats a bug bro 😭

[slate reef]

a bug that hasnt been fixed since release

[fervent gale]

get jackpot then speak here 😭✌️

[blissful fulcrum]

u got hasn't spelt wrong in ur bio gng

[final umbra]

No, honestly the range it to crazy as it is. If they removed the windup then the move is fine. But the windup makes the move butt, and the range makes the move "crazy"

[civic sun]

no 💀 its the strongest drive move ing even better than ace which is saying something

[slate reef]

that they def know about

[lofty sedge]

they havent fixed pump fake passing and that sh pretty broken?

[slate reef]

but prob decided to keep because its possible irl

[civic sun]

considering their on the same tier

[blissful fulcrum]

i feel like if they made it have too little windup it would be too op tho

[slate reef]

uh huh

so the people

[delicate herald]

delete this suggestions thread and lobotomize and make the world a better place 🙏

[slate reef]

who abuse that

[dusky echo]

appears again

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[slate reef]

DONT GET AFFECTED

[dusky echo]

#1357855333787111656

#1357855333787111656

disappears

[slate reef]

BY PUMPFAKE

[civic sun]

jackpot has no reason to have a literally better version of the same class move

[slate reef]

NOT PUMPFAKE

BY JACKPOT

[keen hare]

better for 1's yeah thats for sure but yk aomine has a longer one

[slate reef]

STEAL

[lofty sedge]

what r u saying bro 😭

[delicate herald]

nah nah nah we should give it a tp insta steal frae 1 with anti steal in jacktop too right

[lofty sedge]

can you complete a single statement

[final umbra]

You can still treat it as a normal steal. It would only be OP if the range was still this crazy

[slate reef]

litterally corrected myself

[lofty sedge]

instead of spreading out your words

[keen hare]

what about aomines shooting move 💀 u think jackpot got that

[civic sun]

and aomine has a moving shot point invalid

[slate reef]

the move

needs a shorter windup

[lofty sedge]

aomines shooting move is pretty easy to block

🙏

[civic sun]

jackpot seems fine the way it is

[blissful fulcrum]

but thats boooring

[final umbra]

what are you on about. Don't be mad that you're unlucky

[blissful fulcrum]

THERE'S GOTTA BE VARIETY

[civic sun]

a buff would push it to be too strong over other mythics

in which case u would have to buff giant and ace

[keen hare]

and u dont think the steal of jackpot isnt easy to js dribble too?

[slate reef]

or guys lets not have a steal move for jackpot right

[keen hare]

💀

[civic sun]

so unless thats happening

[delicate herald]

nah nah im agreeing with yall?? give jackpot every ult in the game right?!?

[civic sun]

i think jackpots fine

[final umbra]

Remove the range and remove the wind up and there you go

[slate reef]

faster windup is every ult

[lofty sedge]

then dont use it when you know they have dribbles?

shocking

ik

[tardy sequoia]

(Which can fail even if they didn’t dribble)

Like wtf

[keen hare]

they already shot 💀

[tardy sequoia]

It’s a mythic bro

[final umbra]

You're spastic I wasn't in agreeing of making it OP. I'm literally making it balanced lmk chat

[lofty sedge]

well if you arent sticking to them then thats your problem for not blocking it

[civic sun]

Remove the range??

[subtle glacier]

500 replies cause the op asked to make the windup a lil quicker 🥀

[delicate herald]

"balanced"

[keen hare]

js make it less windup and everybody here acting like its gonna be SOOO OP

[final umbra]

Remove the crazy range, yes

[final umbra]

The range is a little insane

[keen hare]

pls dttm if u think the steal dont need a nerf

[civic sun]

alright then that balances

[final umbra]

Get the style then come back ot me

[fervent gale]

remove the range and have a wind up thats quicker is all it needs ngl

[delicate herald]

whole thread hilarious

[tardy sequoia]

the move is just bad bro

[keen hare]

yeah thats the point of the move so dont change the range already

[slate reef]

so like you shouldnt use the move when they have dribbles

[civic sun]

less range = less windup

[tardy sequoia]

Js decrease the windup

[keen hare]

the range is like

[slate reef]

but then after you use it after they run out of dribbles

oh no!

[civic sun]

the range is kinda crazy rn ngl

[final umbra]

The point of the move is to steal it and gamble on another skill

[slate reef]

they use there half a second

[lofty sedge]

whats with your problem with bringing up random sh like "he might dribble through it" and if he didnt dribble then "he shoots it"

[slate reef]

prob less

like

300 ms pass

[civic sun]

and for a move thats frame 1

[final umbra]

I know

[slate reef]

oh no guys!

[fervent gale]

bro crying why jacpoot dont have a op steal

[civic sun]

/ very hard to react to

[slate reef]

my steal is useless now!

[keen hare]

1/10 ragebait

[lofty sedge]

like bro its not hard to stick onto someone while defending

[slate reef]

SLIGHTLY FASTER WINDUP

[keen hare]

u totally didnt say "he'll block it"

[slate reef]

EITHER GET RID OF THE STEAL AND MAKE IT AN INTERCEPTION FOR PASSES

TYPE MOVE

[civic sun]

only way jackpot will get this buff

[lofty sedge]

whats faster windup gonna do bro?

[slate reef]

OR ADD A SLIGHTLY FASTER WINDUP

[civic sun]

is if they severly nerf range

[keen hare]

gonna make it usable?

[slate reef]

make it eaiser to land on people who arent drooling toddlers???

[keen hare]

bro got 100 points

wp

so good

[slate reef]

like self explanatory question

[lofty sedge]

theres gonna be faster windup enough to instantly steal the ball or not enough faster windup to keep on complaining more

[slate reef]

what will extra range do?!??!?!?

what will fast speed do!?!?!?!?

[civic sun]

like no reason this style should otherwise have a steal of this kinda range without having some drawback

[tardy sequoia]

The windup is horrible bro

[slate reef]

so we just dont understand what slightly

[tardy sequoia]

you can see it ten miles away

[slate reef]

means

right

[civic sun]

the windup balances the range rn

[mystic grove]

Why can't I type in the general chat?

[civic sun]

u cant have both 😭

[delicate herald]

500 replies and 25 people agreeing to this 💔

[lofty sedge]

its not bad bro

[keen hare]

did u see the range

[delicate herald]

yall not getting that buff 💔

[keen hare]

i mean

[slate reef]

ok so your saying the steal is good

[keen hare]

its aight yeah

good

[tardy sequoia]

It’s like the windup for isagi’s direct shot

[lofty sedge]

every mythic gotta have 1 mid ah move bro

[tardy sequoia]

like bro

you can react to it

so easily

[slate reef]

but clutch has its frame one steal

[civic sun]

ive played against it and yea its better than the rest ill say

[slate reef]

and its balanced

[trail herald]

buff this boof style lemme steal the ball 100% OF THE TIME

[lofty sedge]

bc no one uses it

😭

[keen hare]

the wind up is sum else tho

[slate reef]

no one using it makes it balanced..

wow

[faint flicker]

Never saw someone actually land jackpost steal on someone

[delicate herald]

because buffing the best style in the game would be ingenious right

[tardy sequoia]

he seen everyone use it

[slate reef]

holy lard eating statement

[tardy sequoia]

and it’s annoying

[keen hare]

nice logic bro 😭

[slate reef]

how is it better then giant

[mystic grove]

Does anyone know why I can't type in the general chat?

[lofty sedge]

ive never seen someone say clutch is balanced or bring up clutch

[keen hare]

tell me how its the best style

pls

pls

[civic sun]

its the bad to balance to out 🤷‍♀️

[slate reef]

seen plenty of people use it in scrims

the steal is annoying to deal with

[tardy sequoia]

This is the worst example of a "mythic" I’ve ever seen

[slate reef]

because its fast as hell

[civic sun]

i mean u cant expect jackpot to have the best steal and fastst stunning drive ing

[lofty sedge]

thats like saying giant's dunk cutscene sucks because clutch has a 3 pointer awk move while giant only has 2s

🙏

[tardy sequoia]

This should be a legendary bro

[slate reef]

then dont give it a steal

[civic sun]

js like how ace excels in offensive and giant in post

[slate reef]

giving a style a worse move

[delicate herald]

6 moves, sniper ult without mode ending, a flash dash, a flash get around, and more 💔

[keen hare]

BUT ITS WORSE THAN A NORMAL STEAL "E"??

ATLEAST MAKE IT HAVE NORMAL WINDUP

[civic sun]

jackpot should be good all round but not too strong in a specific category

[civic sun]

the extra windup

is for

[slate reef]

so ult is op

yeah it is

[final umbra]

Then they would have to remove the range

[slate reef]

but the base

[keen hare]

u saying 6 moves is so dumb u only get 1 u cant have all 3 lol

[slate reef]

is one move

garbadge

[tardy sequoia]

They wouldn’t tho

[lofty sedge]

so why would we make him more op?

[delicate herald]

the base has everything i just said SLIGTHLY watered down 💔

[faint flicker]

Jackpot range is around the normal E range

[mystic grove]

WHY CANT I TYPE IN GENERAL

[civic sun]

the extra windup is for the crazy range

[faint flicker]

From what I saw and used

[civic sun]

u get in return

[slate reef]

HAVING A GOOD ULT SHOULD NOT LET THE MOVE BE TRASH

THATS

[keen hare]

yh

pls

stop

over reacting

[slate reef]

BAD GAMEPLAY DESIGN

[final umbra]

To make the style in my opinion "balanced" is tweaking the range and removing the wind up

[civic sun]

u would have a

[faint flicker]

The only chance to land it is when someone used all their dribble

[woven flint]

remove jackpot

[tardy sequoia]

That doesn’t mean anything if you’re never gonna land it

[slate reef]

BECAUSE THE DEVS CANT MAKE A BLANCED STYLE OR THEY WILL LOSE PLAYERS

MORE THEN THEY ALREADY HAVE

[keen hare]

u guys acting like the range of his steal is paint to three point

[faint flicker]

Otherwise you get ankle break for free

[slate reef]

THEY PUT MINIMAL EFFORT OR THOUGHT

INTO A BASE

[delicate herald]

bluelock rivals just dont exist?

[slate reef]

JUST SO PEOPLE LIKE YOU

[slate reef]

blr has this same problem

like

[delicate herald]

like cm,on

[lofty crane]

make the steal not anklebreak you

[delicate herald]

yeah and are they losing players

[civic sun]

so would u rather a fast/instant/ very close steal or a unique long steal in return for some windup

[tardy sequoia]

That’s another thing

I’ve seen people js not dribble it

[slate reef]

are they making balanced styles??

[tardy sequoia]

And I get ankle broken

[civic sun]

i think the devs js tried makin sumn new

[slate reef]

did you even read what i said

if they make balanced styles they lose players

like

[lofty crane]

yeah i use it then i go flying across the map and i cant get back on defense

[keen hare]

its not long

[civic sun]

and ppl dont like that it isnt too strong or has both the things they want it to

[keen hare]

do u want to go in my ps

[lofty sedge]

his ult is the best in the game his base should be a little bit weaker on 1 move

[keen hare]

to show u

[delicate herald]

no because why would i read anything coming from yall 💔

[keen hare]

the range

[slate reef]

then shut up

[delicate herald]

"buff jacktop its so garbage" 🤓

[slate reef]

so nerf the ult

buff the base

[faint flicker]

It doesn't have a long range and the windup is so long that even a player with 1k ping could dribble it

[slate reef]

wow guys

[civic sun]

it kinda is

[lofty sedge]

why we talkin bout the range when yall said it wouldnt matter if the range was buffed

[slate reef]

like this surely

[tardy sequoia]

the ult ain’t even all that bro

[slate reef]

cant be this hard to comprehend

[lofty crane]

making an ult op and making the base worse because of it is dumb

[slate reef]

right?

[lofty sedge]

it is bro 😂

[slate reef]

nerf ult

buff base

[keen hare]

??? i said pls stop overreacting THE RANGE IS NOT THAT LONG

[civic sun]

i mean what other steal has a instant ish steal with this kinda range

[slate reef]

problem solved

a balanced style

[delicate herald]

1/3rd of the map btw

[civic sun]

u gotta have some kinda windup to balance it out

[keen hare]

💀

[lofty crane]

its not

[keen hare]

pls go on my ps

let me show u the range

[lofty crane]

fr

[lofty sedge]

its not even a bad base yall just think everytime a style comes out its just gonna overshadow the last one

[slate reef]

you have windup to balance it

not windup to make it trash

[slate reef]

oh my god

[delicate herald]

just seen ts again in front of my very eyes

[slate reef]

GIANT IS STILL BETTER

[tardy sequoia]

That’s the point

[civic sun]

again the more u ask

[tardy sequoia]

Ru slow

[civic sun]

for

[slate reef]

FLASH IS BETTER THEN ACE IN MOST SITUATION IF A DEFENDER IS THERE

WHAT DO YOU MEAN

[civic sun]

the more u gotta take away

[slate reef]

LIKE

[lofty crane]

bro the first move is literally the same as an epic style and the second move just loses the point if your enemy is competent

[lofty sedge]

ult is better in every way

[slate reef]

I DONT GET IT

[slate reef]

ok

im going to explain this to you

[keen hare]

its a worse steal + range isnt even op

[slate reef]

...

[tardy sequoia]

One three

[keen hare]

???

[tardy sequoia]

doesn’t mean anything

[keen hare]

where is the

[slate reef]

if they make their ults bad or blaance

[tardy sequoia]

If you’re getting beat the whole game

[keen hare]

FR

[civic sun]

range is

[slate reef]

you know what happens

[civic sun]

kinda big ngl

[slate reef]

people throw away the style like that

[keen hare]

I GOT LUCKY SHOT WOW MY AWK IS BROKEN

[slate reef]

giant base is op

ult banace

[tardy sequoia]

The range is mid bro

[keen hare]

pls bro add me let me show u the range

[lofty sedge]

first move is playmaker's dribble and kuroko's guaranteed pass bro. you want him to dunk from half court or smth?

[tardy sequoia]

like at best

[slate reef]

ace base is balanced

[tardy sequoia]

For that wind up

[civic sun]

go ahead

[slate reef]

ult balanced

[tardy sequoia]

It’s like two seconds

[dawn tartan]

https://discord.com/channels/1326149032384532530/1357854700438818997 trust this won’t be a waste of ur time

[slate reef]

peple switched to giant

[keen hare]

yoichizild bro add me up and go on my ps

[slate reef]

jackpot

broken

honestly dumb

ult

[civic sun]

canu js send me a video in dms?

[slate reef]

playmaker with one move

[lofty crane]

yeah the first move is just the same as another move and the second move is trash and this is a mythic style btw

[final umbra]

If they were to remove the windup on the move, the range would be crazy

[slate reef]

as an base

[lofty sedge]

post form is some booty 😭

[slate reef]

like

HONESTLY

[lofty sedge]

we only do 3s

[civic sun]

not to mention

[keen hare]

it would be a file and very 0 fps since i dont record

[slate reef]

what are we talking about anymore

[civic sun]

jackpot's whole gimmick

[slate reef]

make the windup shorter

[civic sun]

isnt even to be a stealer

[slate reef]

original suggestion

[tardy sequoia]

????

[keen hare]

why add the move then !

[tardy sequoia]

so why does it have a steal move

[slate reef]

i have still yet to see why this would be a bad change for the move itself

[keen hare]

u js proved

[lofty crane]

what?

[civic sun]

its 1 move?

[keen hare]

our point

[slate reef]

then other parts about the style

[civic sun]

it also has a

[slate reef]

being this or that

[lofty sedge]

so lets just make jackpot steal have frame 1 steal and longer cd

[civic sun]

broken frame 1 tp drive

[lofty sedge]

sounds good

[keen hare]

1/2 of the style

[final umbra]

wrong take

[subtle glacier]

smartest basketball zero player

[keen hare]

only 1 move yh

[tardy sequoia]

????

[slate reef]

who said make it frame 1

[civic sun]

its 50/50?

[tardy sequoia]

What move bro

[slate reef]

?

[civic sun]

legit jackpot isnt supposed to excel in 1 thing

[final umbra]

better take

[civic sun]

he has two strong moves instead of 1

[final umbra]

all-rounder

[civic sun]

really op one

[slate reef]

jackpot is meant to be an all rounder

[civic sun]

exactly

[keen hare]

pls tell me

[slate reef]

but does a terrible job

[keen hare]

all rounder

[slate reef]

at it

[keen hare]

but

his steal is asser

than

[civic sun]

and there nothing wrong with that

[tardy sequoia]

It’s not tho

[keen hare]

a normal steal

u guys still h avent answered that

[slate reef]

all rounder that exceeds in playmaking

[civic sun]

not all styles can be hyper offensive

[final umbra]

It is though?

[civic sun]

or defensive

[slate reef]

and defensive because of the ult

so

[civic sun]

some can be all rounder and perform really well

[lofty crane]

jackpots entire thing is to actually use the gambled move but you basically never even get the gambled move becuase you need to steal the ball

[tardy sequoia]

Just press E

[slate reef]

all rounder

[lofty sedge]

bc yall keep on complainin how you cant steal it from someone who dribbles?

[tardy sequoia]

it’s a better steal

[slate reef]

i said

lower the windup

[civic sun]

its part of his kit yea

[slate reef]

SLIGHTY

slighty

[tardy sequoia]

They don’t even have to dribble

[keen hare]

also ur forgetting the fact it can miss too

[slate reef]

thats all i said

[tardy sequoia]

sometimes it js ankle breaks

[final umbra]

You can dribble with it, you can steal with it, you can shoot with it. That's an all rounder

[slate reef]

litterally my entire statment

[civic sun]

like im not saying remove the steal entirely

thats absurd

[slate reef]

SLIGHTY

maybe like

20%

15%

thats ALL

[keen hare]

so what if they dont dribble, u can miss making it more impossible to get the ball with this move

[slate reef]

I SAID

[civic sun]

but u could've implemented it better

[lofty sedge]

ok if people still were able to dribble through it and react to it after the buff whats next? 🙏

[lofty crane]

yeah just buff it like what or rework it

[tardy sequoia]

(Shot is ult btw)

[civic sun]

we've had no style

[subtle glacier]

^

[civic sun]

with a steal like jackpots

[final umbra]

My point still stands. All-rounder.

[slate reef]

so your saying that keep the move trash

[civic sun]

unless that one rare style with the steal

[slate reef]

and dont buff it

[keen hare]

yh

but these guys coocoo

[faint flicker]

Jackpot can't be all rounder when the move that unlocks his other moves is impossible to land

[slate reef]

because it would be better to have a trash move without changing it

[tardy sequoia]

even clutches steal is better bro

[keen hare]

YEAH

[lofty crane]

you can dribble with it you cant steal with it and you can shoot with the ult

[keen hare]

EXACTLY

[slate reef]

then having a buff actually trying

[lofty sedge]

no im sayin your gonna complain until its frame 1 and no one can react to it

[slate reef]

to balance it

[slate reef]

sure bud

sure

[faint flicker]

Like why didn't they add coin throw move or smth like that? That jackpot steal is some bs

[keen hare]

js make it have less windup?? we didnt ask for a f1 move

holy

[slate reef]

so

your new arguement

[final umbra]

You can use the steal move, if it lands. It has that move, meaning it can steal.... Just because the move is bad doesn't mean it not an all-rounder style

[slate reef]

is assuming things

[civic sun]

ok

[faint flicker]

Never saw someone landing a jackpot steal

[tardy sequoia]

It’s like two seconds now

[slate reef]

basically?

[civic sun]

so would u prefer

a really slow reactable steal

[tardy sequoia]

Decrease it to one

[slate reef]

you ran out of arguments so you just assumed something

is what i just read

[civic sun]

with less windup?

[keen hare]

?

[lofty sedge]

you compared it to clutch which supposedly has a frame 1 steal move.

[faint flicker]

I would prefer a new move instead of jackpot steal

[keen hare]

how is it reactable if it has less windup

[tardy sequoia]

You said two polar opposites

[civic sun]

u guys are asking for a steal like

[lofty sedge]

so just replace clutch's steal move with jackpot steal?

[civic sun]

the one that one rare style has

[lofty sedge]

like we good now

[tardy sequoia]

LIKE AIKU IN BLR

PLEASE

BRO

[slate reef]

what

[keen hare]

?

[lofty crane]

ok yeah the point is to be an all rounder style but in practice its not because its trash at one of the things its supposed to be decent with

[slate reef]

are you talking about

[lofty sedge]

bc yall like clutch's steal move better?

[keen hare]

look at what u said

[slate reef]

so two wrongs

to make it right

[civic sun]

?

[slate reef]

??

[keen hare]

make it more reactable but make it have less windup

[lofty sedge]

you said clutch's steal move is way better

[keen hare]

??

[lofty sedge]

didnt you say that

[keen hare]

what that mean

[lofty sedge]

or smth

[civic sun]

clutch steal

[slate reef]

i did

[civic sun]

is a non frame 1 steal

[slate reef]

so if its better

[tardy sequoia]

It is

[civic sun]

with less windup

[slate reef]

we should just

[tardy sequoia]

What

[slate reef]

reskin it for jackpot

like what

[civic sun]

jackpot is the polar opposite

[slate reef]

does this make sense

to you

even

[final umbra]

Granted yes, I agree the move can be better. But don't make your point that it's not an all-rounder when it is

[civic sun]

its frame 1 with windup

[slate reef]

how doe sthat slighty

[civic sun]

they balance each other out

[slate reef]

fix problems

[lofty crane]

i just said in theory its supposed to be an all rounder

[slate reef]

had a problem so lets remove it!!?!?!?!

reowkr it

[lofty sedge]

ye i said jjust replace jackpot's steal with clutch steal

so its all good

bc you like it so much

[slate reef]

so then your problem happens when the steal becomes op

[lofty sedge]

🙏

[slate reef]

like

?

[final umbra]

That was before you explained yourself, mb

[trail herald]

what is good buddy goin on about🥀

[civic sun]

clutch doesnt even have

[slate reef]

you reinvent your own problem

[faint flicker]

They should make a coin throw move with a chance to get random kit moves instead of steal bs

[civic sun]

an op steal

[slate reef]

witht he suggestion

[civic sun]

??

[slate reef]

??

[lofty sedge]

no clutch's steal has some flaws so idk why you say its actually good

but you like it better than jackpot

[slate reef]

flaws like what

[lofty crane]

who are you and what do you mean

[slate reef]

tell me some

[civic sun]

jackpots an all rounder

stop asking for a steal buff 😭

[faint flicker]

It can't be all rounder when you can't land steal

Literally even 1k ping player can dribble past that bs

[fluid monolith]

930 msgs

[trail herald]

u still talkin bro oh brother

[faint flicker]

Never saw it land

Never

[civic sun]

he's not supposed to have a op steal he instead has a good steal thats balanced with windup to make it not op

[lofty sedge]

it doesnt even directly steal from then it just makes them so they lose the ball

[civic sun]

case closed

[tardy sequoia]

The steal is worse than pressing E

[lofty crane]

it cant be an all rounder when its moves are trash make it decent so it can be as good as its other move

[slate reef]

almost 1k for 15-20% less windup

[faint flicker]

They either should lower the windup or rework the move

[slate reef]

which is aimable so you can aim it to a tm

but keep going

tell me some more flaws

[keen hare]

good steal

[civic sun]

ion what ur on abt jackpot is alr top 3 or 4 styles

ing

[keen hare]

bro said good steal

💀

[tardy sequoia]

?????

def not

wtf

[civic sun]

def so

[lofty sedge]

so it goes to your teammate but someone can just me marking your guy like?

[civic sun]

maybe 4th

but yea

def so

[slate reef]

i mean ig another person can pick it up

sure

[civic sun]

it doesnt have to be the strongest mythic

[slate reef]

would you have a progress resetter more steal?

i feel like no matter what

[lofty sedge]

like y r we talking bout this

[slate reef]

thats still good

[lofty crane]

bruh aint no way im not biased but its nyash

[civic sun]

it caters to a specific type of player

[keen hare]

u still havent

[lofty sedge]

how r we not talkin ab how limitless is the most broken zone in the game

[faint flicker]

At least it should have a playable move??

[keen hare]

answered

[slate reef]

results in them having to work harder and reasses for a point

so

[civic sun]

its not the hyper offensive ace

[keen hare]

my question

[lofty sedge]

and limitless is a legendary

[civic sun]

or the post demon giant

[slate reef]

i dont understand how thats a bad thing

?

[keen hare]

IT HAS A WORSE STEAL THAN A NORMAL STEAL THAT EVERY STYLE CAN HAVE

[civic sun]

but it does what it does great

[keen hare]

PLS

[civic sun]

and doesnt need to be op

[keen hare]

ANSWER

THAT

[civic sun]

for an all rounder

[tardy sequoia]

Isn’t clutch the all rounder

[slate reef]

15-20% less windup

[tardy sequoia]

what ru tb

[civic sun]

its the same arguement that

[slate reef]

how does that make it more op

or the steal

[civic sun]

u wouldnt call ace a bad style for having no defense

[slate reef]

inf more op

best in the game

[lofty sedge]

dude im ngl he aint buffin sh 🙏

[civic sun]

bcuz it is made FOR the hyper offensive playstyle

same thing with jackpot