gritty vapor
Compared to Giant, Ace seems underwhelming because Giant has 4 Variants, whereas Ace only has 2 despite them being the same rarity
Make it so that Ace has 3-4 Variants similiar to Murasakibara (Giant)
Even if we're to take reference from the anime, Aomine (Ace) is far better than Murasakibara (Giant)
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safe crown
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cedar smelt
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median hinge
False advertisement giant doesn’t make me a giant
I’m not the size of a building
Chrollo scammer scammer
False advertisement ace didn’t make me the ace
cedar smelt
lol
median hinge
I’m suing chrollo for false advertisement
gritty vapor
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hexed rapids
Ace is trash and easily counterable as well, while Giant literally has no counterplay in the slightest.
median hinge
How so?
gritty vapor
Giant easily counters Ace and has 4 variants he can utilise whereas Ace only has 2 variants and cant do nothing against Giants steal
median hinge
The variants don’t even matter
Exept for the v move
Snatch block is op I’ll give you that
gritty vapor
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gritty vapor
The variants don’t even matter
Yes they do
Each variant can work in different situations
If you don't know that, then you barely know how to play Giant
however thats an issue on your part, not the game's
median hinge
Snatch block and charge are the ones that really matter
The post form variants are both a free 2 points
gritty vapor
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serene vapor
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gritty vapor
The post form variants are both a free 2 points
glaze upfront
doesnt change the fact that giant has 4 variants and ace has 2
so dunno what stupid point you're tryna make
thats js chrollo glaze
dude's tryna be different 💔
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fervent totem
Compared to Giant, Ace seems underwhelming because Giant has 4 Variants, whereas...
Murasakibara is better then ace in the game and in the anime
gritty vapor
Murasakibara is better then ace in the game and in the anime
noshit
rhats exactly shat i said
wait
no?
who told u that
rewatch the anime
fervent totem
Its obvious
gritty vapor
its not
fervent totem
Aomine is not top 5 in verse
gritty vapor
js rewatch the anime
gritty vapor
Aomine is not top 5 in verse
he is
gritty vapor
no way you got murasakibara in your top 5
gritty vapor
Whats ur top 5
murasakibaras definitely not in
akashi nash kise kagami n aomine
not ranked in order jsyk
kagami might not be top 5
timid lodge
who told u that
Murasakibara went up against a stronger kagami and was around average/winning when he himself got in the zone so like… idk how you could incur Aomine’s better
gritty vapor
Murasakibara went up against a stronger kagami and was around average/winning wh...
Aomines zone is better than kagamis
his stats are more versatile
unlike kagamis
timid lodge
Aomines zone is better than kagamis
Then why were they equal in the too match…
gritty vapor
Then why were they equal in the too match…
kagami was in the zone most of the time
while aomine wasn't
topaz forum
but kagami is confirmed to be ftl+ speed when in the zone
timid lodge
When they both went in the zone they were going head to head and neither could beat eachother
gritty vapor
but kagami is confirmed to be ftl+ speed when in the zone
kagami solos verse
timid lodge
That only changed when Aomine’s zone ran out
gritty vapor
That only changed when Aomine’s zone ran out
aomine was literally holding back
timid lodge
but they were still equal when they were both in the zone
gritty vapor
dawg rewatch the anime
timid lodge
aomine was literally holding back
How?
gritty vapor
it was literally stated by narrator
timid lodge
He got in the zone BECAUSE he found someone who could finally match him
why would he go into the zone if he wasn’t going 100%…
topaz forum
also when kagami gets really mad he goes into the zone and the zone is known to buff people
gritty vapor
aomines zone was not as potent as kagamis either
timid lodge
Zone is literally your 120%
gritty vapor
Zone is literally your 120%
pretty sure kagami unlocked true zone against aomine
topaz forum
also when aomine gets into the zone his eye leave a trail of color behind to indicate that he is in the zonew
same with kagami
timid lodge
aomines zone was not as potent as kagamis either
yeah, so if Murasakibara went against a Zone Kagami who got stronger than the kagami who beat Aomine, Murasakibara beats Aomine
gritty vapor
also that doesn't change the fact that aomine is literally better than murasakibara
timid lodge
pretty sure kagami unlocked true zone against aomine
No that was against Rakuzan
YOU rewatch the anime
gritty vapor
dunno why you're talking about kagami
timid lodge
dunno why you're talking about kagami
Because Kagami was equal to Aomine
Murasakibara fought a stronger kagami
gritty vapor
so?
timid lodge
Therefore Murasakibara beats Aomine
gritty vapor
Murasakibara fought a stronger kagami
dawg thats not how it works
fervent totem
pretty sure kagami unlocked true zone against aomine
DZ kagami was rakuzan
topaz forum
but when murasakibara eats his chips the narrator says he become 4.5% less likely to enter the zone in that moment
timid lodge
Aomine also states it would be hard for him to get past Mura
who never tried… before that.
fervent totem
Aominefraud got first rounded by the a way worse kagami then when mura faced him
timid lodge
So a non trying Mura would be hard for Aomine, a trying mura even more
gritty vapor
Aominefraud got first rounded by the a way worse kagami then when mura faced him
plot armor
topaz forum
the narator also confirms when murasakibara gets to the last chip in the bag Choji pops out and challanges him to a 1v1
timid lodge
Then even MORE when Mura gets into the zone
fervent totem
plot armor
Cope
topaz forum
the narator also confirms when murasakibara gets to the last chip in the bag Cho...
and Choji is confirmed to be gokuversal
in conclusion Choji is soloing the generation of mirclaes
topaz forum
good point in the book aomine hair is black but in the show its a blueish color. Nice catch Mister Where
timid lodge
Zone Murasakibara = Deep Zone Kagami > Murasakibara = Zone Kagami = Zone Aomine
Very simple.
gritty vapor
Aomine lost to kagami because aomine in zone was going solo
whereas kagami had people he passed to even during zone
aomine zone>kagami zone
topaz forum
Zone Mura = Gojo + Sukuna > Deep Zone Kagami > Kuroko but really mad > that one girl is big funbags
timid lodge
Zone Mura = Gojo + Sukuna > Deep Zone Kagami > Kuroko but really mad > that one ...
Momoi
topaz forum
Momoi
ahh mb
Zone Momoi = Gojo + Sukuna > Deep Zone Kagami > Kuroko but really mad > that one girl is big funbags
did i spell it right?
topaz forum
Zone Momoi 👧 = Gojo + Sukuna > Deep Zone Kagami > Kuroko but really mad > that one girl is big funbags
?
better?
gritty vapor
aomine can score without getting close to the rim unlike kagami
especially in his zone
timid lodge
pretty sure kagami would still beat murasakibara
Kagami needed Teppei to overpower Zone Marasakibara
he couldn’t solo
gritty vapor
Kagami needed Teppei to overpower Zone Marasakibara
aomine*
timid lodge
Yeah
topaz forum
Kagami needed Teppei to overpower Zone Marasakibara
i pretty sure he needed the power of friendship but whatever
timid lodge
Murasakibara was equal to Yosen Kagami
gritty vapor
but aomines shooting is way better than kagamis
kagamis shooting isnt as good as aomines
topaz forum
so since kuroko is vanishing infront of people does that make him ftl?
gritty vapor
he relies heavily on dunks
timid lodge
Murasakibara = Yosen Kagami > Too Kagami = Aomine
gritty vapor
Murasakibara = Yosen Kagami > Too Kagami = Aomine
no?
timid lodge
Yes.
topaz forum
Maybe?
timid lodge
it’s quite simple.
gritty vapor
why would aomine even need to go near rim
timid lodge
why would aomine even need to go near rim
gritty vapor
the only thing kagami and aomine were equal in were dribbling and speed
timid lodge
Aomine admits to Murasakibara being able to stop him
topaz forum
Aomine if he practices > kurokos basketball verse
timid lodge
.
gritty vapor
kagami couldn't solo murasakibara because he relied heavily on dunks
whereas aomine has FAR better shooting capabilities
in zone
compared to kagami
timid lodge
Aomine admits it would be hard to score on Murasakibara.
gritty vapor
Aomine admits it would be hard to score on Murasakibara.
but that doesn't account to much?
timid lodge
It does.
timid lodge
It means in 1v1s Murasakibara is more likely to stop him
gritty vapor
kagami had trouble because he relied on dunks
are you blind
u js keep ignoring this part
thats js straight up glaze now
topaz forum
kagami has red hair not blue idiot
timid lodge
And that matters why?
gritty vapor
Kagami relied heavily on dunks
timid lodge
Aomine himself says he’d have trouble scoring on a non trying Mura
Does Aomine not know how good Aomine is?
topaz forum
Kagami relied heavily on dunks
yea i havent watched the show in a hot minute but does he ever shoot?
timid lodge
yea i havent watched the show in a hot minute but does he ever shoot?
He does a bit
gritty vapor
Aomine himself says he’d have trouble scoring on a non trying Mura
Aomine wasn't trying either after a few matches w generation of miracle
also either way
kagami literally only struggled because his shooting is bad
murasakibara is only good near the 2 pointer area
timid lodge
murasakibara also preformed better against Silver than Aomine who needed Zone to keep up.
topaz forum
wait so whats yalls argument about rn?
timid lodge
so
timid lodge
wait so whats yalls argument about rn?
Murasakibara is better than Aomine
That’s the argument.
topaz forum
hmm
gritty vapor
wait so whats yalls argument about rn?
Aomine is better than murasakibara
dunno why he's coping
timid lodge
murasakibara is only good near the 2 pointer area
And Aomine is stopping Mura from dunking on him how?
gritty vapor
Kagami struggled cause his scoring relied on dunks
gritty vapor
And Aomine is stopping Mura from dunking on him how?
Murasakibara literally is not gonna be able to do anything
in dribbling
timid lodge
Murasakibara’s defense is the entire 3 point area lmao
gritty vapor
murasakibaras dribbling doesn't compare to kagamis or aomines
timid lodge
He can go from under the basket to the 3P line to stop a shot
topaz forum
i lwkey think its mura is better because he faced kagami after aomine in the rule book for sports anime the later you go against someone the stronger they are. and cause aomine stopped training after he got bored
timid lodge
in dribbling
Okay he just bullies him physically to the paint
gritty vapor
you're js coping now tho
timid lodge
how.
timid lodge
Why does that matter in a 1v1.
gritty vapor
Why does that matter in a 1v1.
dribbling doesnt matter in a 1v1?
topaz forum
in a 1v1 i think aomine wins cause aint in the show all mura does is stay in the paint?
gritty vapor
kagami got his dunks blocked because kagamis shooting was hot garbage
timid lodge
in a 1v1 i think aomine wins cause aint in the show all mura does is stay in the...
he catches up to a zone Kagami who was equal in speed to Zone Aomine too so
gritty vapor
both during aomines match and murasakibaras
timid lodge
Zone Murasakibara is faster too lol
gritty vapor
in a 1v1 i think aomine wins cause aint in the show all mura does is stay in the...
no?
split locust
How did this turn from talking abt ace to the knb anime? 💀
timid lodge
idk
gritty vapor
How did this turn from talking abt ace to the knb anime? 💀
dunno some random guy is js glazing chrollo
cause he doesn't want ace to be balanced as giant
split locust
cause he doesn't want ace to be balanced as giant
Ace is pretty op tho
timid lodge
Why bring chrollo into this, Ace and Giant are for 2 different things.
gritty vapor
and either way even if you were true (you're not)
that doesn't change anything, becsuse giant has 4 variants and ace has 3
topaz forum
so what style do yall think is better ace or giant?
gritty vapor
Ace is pretty op tho
4 variants vs 2 variants
timid lodge
Ace is better at dribbling and shooting, Giant is better in the 2 point area and defense
timid lodge
4 variants vs 2 variants
More variants ≠ how good the style is
topaz forum
hmm
gritty vapor
Ace is better at dribbling and shooting, Giant is better in the 2 point area and...
giant has steal that can be used anywhere
split locust
4 variants vs 2 variants
Nvm I forgot I saw it getting blocked normally 5x in a row
timid lodge
giant has steal that can be used anywhere
Ace has a auto dribble move that goes half the size of the court.
split locust
giant has steal that can be used anywhere
Literally
gritty vapor
also ace's shoot ability gets easily countered by giant
but ace camt do much against giant
topaz forum
also ace's shoot ability gets easily countered by giant
and just by regular people
like its so easy to block
timid lodge
that’s just called “get good”
gritty vapor
and just by regular people
yea its easy to block
gritty vapor
that’s just called “get good”
massive cope here
split locust
also ace's shoot ability gets easily countered by giant
Ehhh not all the time
gritty vapor
Ehhh not all the time
mostly does whereas ace doesn't counter giant at all
topaz forum
i def think ace should get a buff
timid lodge
massive cope here
you can just… dribble into the 2 point area, go sideways, than fade into the three far away.
timid lodge
mostly does whereas ace doesn't counter giant at all
Ace is an offensive style why would it 😭
gritty vapor
unless we're talking about the dribble.move but even then the giants "steal" has range big enough
to steal
gritty vapor
you can just… dribble into the 2 point area, go sideways, than fade into the thr...
it's literally not much
gou can cover 75% or 50% the distance js by walking
topaz forum
buff clutch
timid lodge
If you just… use it good?
gritty vapor
Just dribble past them with athletic drive
are you js straight up glazing
timid lodge
You just seem to suck at using ace bro.
gritty vapor
or have u never played knb
gritty vapor
aces dribble doesn't cover that much of a distance
topaz forum
aces dribble doesn't cover that much of a distance
crazy cap
gritty vapor
you can cover 50-70% the distance js by walking
rigid perch
aces dribble doesn't cover that much of a distance
CAP
gritty vapor
in equal timeframe ofc till the aces dribble ends
rigid perch
i did
gritty vapor
im not taking the starting point ad reference
rigid perch
your fried
rigid perch
i never said the player would steal
but if you walk yes they will
are you fried or what
topaz forum
aces dribble doesn't cover that much of a distance
okay im starting to see your point but I was think bout the steal but i get it now
rigid perch
i agree with variants though
gritty vapor
red is player walking and blue is aomines dribble
u can cover 50%-70% the distance js bu walking
rigid perch
ok
rigid perch
u can cover 50%-70% the distance js bu walking
yeah but you dont really need more imo
gritty vapor
giant's steal easilt covers the remaining distance even if aomine shot from 3 pointer
gritty vapor
yeah but you dont really need more imo
yea im.not telling to buff the distance
some idiot kept glazing n saying u cant cover 50-70% the distance
rigid perch
yea im.not telling to buff the distance
than what
rigid perch
some idiot kept glazing n saying u cant cover 50-70% the distance
who said that
where is he
gritty vapor
who said that
mister where
scroll up
giant couldn't catch up w the remaining 50-30% w his leap(steal)
or so he said
not directly but thats what he kept arguing against
rigid perch
Murasakibara is better than Aomine
cap
rigid perch
giant couldn't catch up w the remaining 50-30% w his leap(steal)
ye
murisakibara is good but not better than ace
gritty vapor
or knb
gritty vapor
ok
gritty vapor
you guys are talking about anime
dunno why he kept talking abt the anime
when the thread is abt knb
rigid perch
when the thread is abt knb
ye
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safe crown
Up
safe crown
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wispy dome
bump
safe crown
Up
gritty vapor
B
pseudo lion
up
gritty vapor
B
gritty vapor
B
gritty vapor
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cedar smelt
b
gritty vapor
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sharp pollen
Guys giant is inspired by Shaquille O Neal not Murasakibara
peak glade
Bump
sharp pollen
Also lowk I think ace is fine it can cover like half the court at will whole out speeding everyone and has an unpredictable shot that when used right literally cannot be blocked like these people aren't going left or right anymore 😭
gritty vapor
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gritty vapor
Also lowk I think ace is fine it can cover like half the court at will whole out...
Blue is ace, red is player walking
sharp pollen
I uh don't know what this means mb
tardy lichen
bump
tardy lichen
Also lowk I think ace is fine it can cover like half the court at will whole out...
its rlly easy to block athletic fade if u see it coming ngl
just see which way they do the first lil shimmy
and run there and jump
works every time
sharp pollen
works every time
Problem is people can use it to go forwards and backwards too if they use it right and it'll still make
tardy lichen
true
sharp pollen
Sweats with ace are almost impossible to block
tardy lichen
but ive almost never seen that
sharp pollen
but ive almost never seen that
I did and it was NOT a good time
tardy lichen
i can believe that
but athletic fade is pretty balanced imo he just kinda needs an off the ball move
or maybe one of his ult moves could be replaced with the falling shot
so they're not both dunks
sharp pollen
but athletic fade is pretty balanced imo he just kinda needs an off the ball mov...
Nah Aomine only aura farms with the ball lowk
tardy lichen
lol fr
sharp pollen
Unless u count his defense but that's more on the player than an ability
tardy lichen
yeah
i just think this would be cool
i dont like how both abilities for both giant and ace are dunks
and star
dont get me started on "self-oop" its so trash
sharp pollen
Well I mean they are the hypest
tardy lichen
fair
tardy lichen
thats pretty true
but i think something like jackpots ult is better
more unique
maybe one move could be him entering the flow
and getting super speed and extra dribbles
idk
sharp pollen
I don't think chrollo should touch the flow lowk because of how undefined it is
sharp pollen
Plus not to mention it would essentially be the same ability for every chac with the flow like what he did with meta vision in blr and that sucked
tardy lichen
yeah ig
sharp pollen
If I really had to change ace
I would prob just change his dribble move in ult to be a general speed boost ball or no ball
With his signature blue eye trail
swift hamlet
i dont like how both abilities for both giant and ace are dunks
agree they should replace aces dunk with the behind the backboard shot aomine did
tardy lichen
that wouldn really work tho
sharp pollen
agree they should replace aces dunk with the behind the backboard shot aomine di...
Would be way cooler
swift hamlet
it would work if they just made it a cutscene you started in the paint
sharp pollen
Lowk idk if ace or giant or jackpot should be our focus for buffs/added features
swift hamlet
i want them to add kise and akashi
sharp pollen
Chac like sniper or play maker definitely need a couple tweaks
sharp pollen
i want them to add kise and akashi
Kise would either just be Reo or too broken 💔
Sadly just don't think he has a good place to fill
swift hamlet
they could do it so his moves would just be a random move out of the whole game
and make it a legendary
sharp pollen
they could do it so his moves would just be a random move out of the whole game
That sounds really funny but then it wouldn't be kise lowk
tardy lichen
i want them to add kise and akashi
why both
also it would be rlly boring his ult would just be five minute copy yay he can copy an ult move or two
swift hamlet
i think it would be fun because you could combine two different ult moves of your choice and it will be different every match so it would take longer to get boring
gritty vapor
B
gritty vapor
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median hinge
Bro who decided to add hakari in basket ball
Watch the next style be Gojo and you just hollow purple the ball and it just magically goes in
gritty vapor
B
gritty vapor
Watch the next style be Gojo and you just hollow purple the ball and it just mag...
sbut up noob
thye gonna add goku style
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cedar smelt
DeMar DeRozen, Chicken still frozen, You were the chosen, Lakers in 🖐️
gritty vapor
B
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royal yoke
Wdym by variants?
gritty vapor
Wdym by variants?
Offball moves
gritty vapor
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atomic pier
Murasakibara went up against a stronger kagami and was around average/winning wh...
Murasakibara challanged Kagami because of his defencive prowess. Offensively, he's still powerful, but not as good as Kagami or Aomine.
I just realised how old of a comment I replied to
gritty vapor
B
meager sky
the question is whether or not Kise can combine things he has copied into new variants
if he can combine midorimas shooting with aomines formless shot murasakibara cant guard that far out and also stop the shot
gritty vapor
B
cedar smelt
gritty vapor
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fathom path
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