Buff Giant

[terse perch]

last thing giant needs is buffs bro the jump move is an instant leap that auto snatches the ball if it's close, you can tackle someone and stun them for so long you can basically just WALK down the court, and the first move simply doesn't allow them to block your shot.

[deft barn]

ace gives iframes for 3 seconds and you get a speedboost while using that dribble move. giant can only stun someone for really long and you can get covered by 3 people.

they should just make it so snatch block rotates with post form if you have the ball or not

[terse perch]

While that is true, the weapons have 2 different purposes. You can't say a defense weapon is trash because it can't do what a hyper offensive one can

Ace was meant for dribbling and shooting, Giant was moreso meant for defending and cashing in big time when you successfully defended

[deft barn]

it can block alr

i have no idea how i didnt get that

[terse perch]

i assume you got ping diffed here

[deft barn]

78 ping

🤡

[terse perch]

Your ping isn't the only ping that matters

That's why its called ping DIFF

because of the DIFFERENCE in your PING

[deft barn]

this idiot bro

do you even have giant

ong

[terse perch]

got him first spin

I haven't missed a shot block yet

because you don't wait at the hoop

[deft barn]

cool

but ace can do 3s from far away

[terse perch]

you sit a distance from the person shooting

[deft barn]

while you have to be on the paint

and have to be covered by someone to be using post form

[terse perch]

ok if you know they have ace and are in your half why are you backing away

knowing that you can leap and snatch the ball

[deft barn]

they can pump?

[terse perch]

also athletic fade isn't that hard to react to

[deft barn]

pumps still fake blocks

[terse perch]

you can't pump athletic fade

[deft barn]

normal

shots

[terse perch]

your first resort shouldn't be the leap

the jump move is instant so you can press it even if it's high in the air

if they pump fake you then use your leap

[deft barn]

what do you mean high int he air

[terse perch]

since you probably wasted your jump

[deft barn]

but ong flash is way better than giant

[terse perch]

when the ball is out of regular jump distance

[terse perch]

doesn't even have iframes

Don't lie to yourself

the ult move carries it with the free steal

[deft barn]

quickstep drive

[terse perch]

?? I took it from someone using that one before

[wild portal]

nah giant is not myth worth

[deft barn]

dash can be used to instantly dash from a short distance and block/steal

[wild portal]

share cds and the fact its janky af

[terse perch]

giant is mythic worthy you just need to know how to use it

[deft barn]

must be playing against a bot

[wild portal]

but i know how its just a ace counter i been playing and winning

[terse perch]

if you don't want to play defense don't play giant

[wild portal]

im just telling u it sucks

[terse perch]

get ace or flash

[wild portal]

flash is beter you can knock ppl down twice

[terse perch]

yea and then you have to shoot

where the giant player is waiting

[wild portal]

giant is a post style but you dont play post in this game

[terse perch]

with the leap move

[wild portal]

and its not usable as a defensive post

its a paint monster when this game dont play like 2k you dont play on the paint

[terse perch]

if you're waiting in the post for a shot to come in the hoop 9 times out of 10 you're gonna get ping diffed and not grab it

it's not a post weapon it's a defense weapon

[wild portal]

nobody waiting in post homie

im just telling you

[terse perch]

yea cuz you're not SUPPOSED to

[wild portal]

giant was made thinking of the post center offensive reboundin

[terse perch]

you're supposed to put pressure on the person with the ball

[wild portal]

they said it aswell but it dont work like that

cus rebounding doenst exist

[terse perch]

it's not supposed to work like that

[wild portal]

all the moves are post forced to enemy infront

[terse perch]

idk what the devs were thinking but that isn't how you're supposed to play giant

[wild portal]

its objectivly mid

should be legendary only thats all

[terse perch]

giant definitely deserves mythic

people are just used to ace being no skill

so they wanted giant to also be no skill

[wild portal]

nah but hey you do you i be playing clutch

[terse perch]

then when they add a mythic that isn't busted like ace everyone calls it trash

[wild portal]

its not thats its busted or not its just bad

animations break

[terse perch]

you should need to actually KNOW what you're doing with mythics

[wild portal]

i already flew off the map twice

its a bad set up

change post with charge

and im good

post up is dog

no ones gonna post

the only good option is when you charge into post

and combo them

[terse perch]

you can fake going in for a dunk then use post form to shoot

[deft barn]

more than anything flash should be the mythic in this upd lowkey 🙏

[terse perch]

dunks are easy to block if they don't have posterior

posterizer*

[wild portal]

why would u fake that for a 2 point anyway

just score the 2

[terse perch]

because dunks are easy to block

[wild portal]

dunks are easy anyway

[terse perch]

so are regular shots

[wild portal]

no need for post

i play for 3s

[terse perch]

dunks are not easy

[wild portal]

they are

[terse perch]

they're easy if you play against genuine robots

[wild portal]

nah

i been done played vs leaderboard mfs

they just ace drones

[terse perch]

that brings me back to my earlier point

[wild portal]

anyway this a giant thread

giant needs a revision that all i leave it at

[terse perch]

People were used to the one mythic being absolutely busted and no skill

[wild portal]

top me flash is what ace should be

[terse perch]

so when they added a mythic that does take skill and you can't just press 2 buttons for points it's "bad"

[wild portal]

ace is drone style

ace being broken doesnt make giant less bad tho

it can be myth wtv they want but it needs touch ups

[terse perch]

giant isn't bad you just actually need to know how to use it

[wild portal]

its all force post player infront bs

instead of defensive

[terse perch]

I think the one touch up it'd need would be for post form to be usable off the ball

[wild portal]

yeah

agree

[terse perch]

and you can shove yourself in front for the opponent and it heavily nerfs their aim assist

[wild portal]

the meter under the basket feels pointless too ur never running out of it

[terse perch]

making it so they basically have to aim perfectly at the hoop

[wild portal]

would make sense if you could use it mid court

[terse perch]

eh maybe

but maybe I'm just good with giant and don't notice the shortcomings

[drifting turtle]

giant is op

[terse perch]

anyway star best style in game I'm gonna go play more with giant

[drifting turtle]

you just play def thats it

[terse perch]

that's what I've been saying

[drifting turtle]

fr

[wild portal]

nah

upon further playing with and vs

that dont stop nothing

you can roll fade with ace past the block

it only stops drone aces

and had no more pratical uses

the fact flash has a knock down on lower cd and can fadeaway from 3 miles

should be enough to prove giant and flash got the rating backwards

specialy when flash ult forced them to not do anthing or the ball goes back

[desert hare]

???????????

giant is the best style in the game

public players bro

[deft barn]

its mid ash

[desert hare]

got to be ragebait

u can literally fling and ragdoll someone while dribbling and the block is a literal autosteal with a giantic hitbox

so if you get pumpfaked u can still block it

0 counterplay

[deft barn]

its mid

😂

[wild portal]

bro is talking as if he like pro scrim bro not everyone here is just a opub player

regardless of play lvl giant is just a glorified easy way to get blocks and steals already possible

post is useless most time

the charge move is shared cd with the best move in the kit so no point on using

all the ults are a 2 pointer

so lets make the chart here

C is a post move ona game with no rebound and no real reason to stand on paint

V charge is bad if tou want to knock ppl just use Flashes , shares cd with the best move

Vs best part is the block that doesnt count for blocks is a grab mostly of animations you can already block the only reason its okey its that maybe sometimes it can grab funky ace fades

the ult/zone wtv you wanna call it is dog

buttum scrims are more organized, ight bro lmk how you doing

the perfect 5 man team imo doesnt include giant

at all, phantom, ace, sniperx2 for 5th do wtv mostly flash or star for breaks

giant falls nowhere both in pubs or scrims

the more i play vs, not with cus i rolled that off, its thats its just mid

since ppl are now starting to be able to block ace even in pubs giant is just a big red button to jump high and get a ball you could already get

buttum it can grab the balls n keep position
yeah just play flash and dash on block gg

[desert hare]

have you touched giant

you underestimate its hitbox

[desert hare]

it easily does bro

and kuroko is likely getting reduced to 1 per team since mroe styles got added

ion think u understand how good the block is

its a free turnover everytime its off cd because u dont even have to be marking the person shooting specifically

[wild portal]

i have

flash is better

[gaunt prism]

Giant is only good for 1on1 and even that there are better styles 🙏

Underwhelming for a Mythic

[wild portal]

and ever then 1v1 with just flash it get bodied

cus flash dribble move has the same property

and giant is sharing a cd

and the C move is god awfull

🤶 but wait he play comp or sum i think he know better

[gaunt prism]

Honestly if they just got rid of post and added charge and snatch and block as the two abilities he'd be way better I swear

Wait

Im in to something fr

1: Charge 2: Snatch and Block
That would be like 10x better I swear

[wild portal]

yeah

legit that would make it way better

the fact the 2 best moves share a cd is bad

post is just to skip paint

ppl are using it to just have a longer dunk lmao

[terse perch]

after playing more with giant

you have no idea how often you can end up dragging someone into post for the easy 2

[wild portal]

i do and its still not worth the 2 point, maybe this latest patch will make it better

but tbh the only good thing about is is the 1 snatch skill still

and the rush

since you can keep someone on the floor

and they share a cd

[desert hare]

i mean i promise you u just dont see the vision bro

there is mad value from post form

first off it literally has no cooldown if you dont use the dunk

it gives you iframes, and makes the person that ur pushing back have no ability to jump

[desert hare]

which consequently

either forces the other team to lose two points

or makes them unmark one of ur people to block the dunk since the guy being pushed back cant jump

if they made charge and snatch block two separate moves itd just easily be the best style in the game with literally no counterplay

not sure why u want at all

no one stops u from abandoning defense with the style and just using charge only for a literal free 3 everytime if someones 1v1 guarding u