Skong 2: the second Skonging

[glossy halo]

10/10

||pls tell me there’s a third too||

[tired elbow]

||:)||

[glossy halo]

||BIG FLEA||

||I WOULD NOT HAVE GUESSED SO LARGE AND MARVELOUS A FLEA EXISTED||

Peak cinema…

[tired elbow]

Ok i played around with ||witch crest for enraged conchfly||

This shit is GOD

[sour ocean]

I love that the Hunter's Journal is like ||thank goodness it came to its senses||

[glossy halo]

I like how fond hornet is of the fleas

[glossy halo]

Also

Do u think mooshkas dots are the eyes or the lines

Apparently this is a hotly debated topic

[tame jay]

I don't understand it tbh it's clearly eyes and mustache

[sour ocean]

The dots are the eyes, but I don't see the lines as anything but eyebags

[tame jay]

the real hot take that the world isn't ready for is eyes on stalks, dots are nostrils

[glossy halo]

This is how I feel

[glossy halo]

This is terrifying

Where are fleas eyes located in real life

[tame jay]

not on stalks

[glossy halo]

Then why would his be…

[tame jay]

because it would be a funny contrarian opinion to introduce to the discourse

[glossy halo]

Sigh

[tired elbow]

Wait the dots are his eyes?

I thought he was just stuck on a 😔 expression

[glossy halo]

SEE

[brisk trench]

yo is that my boy fleamaster mooshka

[white gull]

I'm a dot eyes + mustache believer as well

[brisk trench]

got the ||double jump||

i think i'm ready for the beastfly rematch

[tame jay]

that's what they all say before they have to actually do it

[brisk trench]

never mind i pulled a muscle in my hand so i will not be attempting this fight today

[glossy halo]

I’m currently doing beastfly rematch

What the fuck is wrong with team cherry

Why does it fly off the screen

[tame jay]

the stupid bitchfly has many abilities some consider to be irrational

[glossy halo]

i think what’s actually most irritating is that it randomly just. Doesn’t track you. But only sometimes!!

[sour ocean]

My biggest issue with that fight was honestly the summons

Stupid tarspitters

[tame jay]

word

[tired elbow]

My issue with the fight is that it can sometimes just delete all of the platforms

[glossy halo]

Extremely

My issue with the fight is that the whole fucking fight blows

But he died

And I never have to fight him again

[sour ocean]

That's not so bad for a guy like me, but I'm very heavily grapple-pilled

[tired elbow]

Lowkey tho

Very fun fight to spam clawline on

[tame jay]

he doesn't know about the third savage beastfly in act 5

[glossy halo]

That’s the secret boss,.,

[glossy halo]

Just did the ||infestation quest||

Holy shit

On the bright side ||now I have a house||

[brisk trench]

beat the beastfly rematch

[white gull]

I didn't have any issues with either beastfly fight

first one was definitely more fun though

[glossy halo]

I didn’t struggle with it a ton I just thought it was an extremely obtusely designed boss

Spawner boss

I also thought sister splinter was similarly horrible

[glossy halo]

Why does this game have ||3 different poison swamps||? Does it hate me?

[glossy halo]

How many fleas are in the game and how many do I need before ||they move for a third time||

[sour ocean]

||They won't move unless you find them a place to move to||

[glossy halo]

||I found the place||

[tame jay]

a lot and a lot hope this helps

[glossy halo]

[sour ocean]

Did you find the ||other named flea in that area?||

[glossy halo]

I got the achievement for finding half the fleas in the game so I was wondering if that was the benchmark but it seems not

[glossy halo]

Yes

Do I need to be in ||act 3||?

[sour ocean]

No

The ||named Flea will sell you locations||

[glossy halo]

I know

Is there any way to track how many more I need

Do I need all of them…

[sour ocean]

Also ||vore parkour, vore parkour||

[glossy halo]

Horrible. Hate it.

[sour ocean]

||You need 22, and there's a total of 30 apparently||

[glossy halo]

HOLY

So I need ||6 more||…

[unreal crypt]

|| skarrsinger karmelita || attempt 46

[sour ocean]

While everyone else was getting infected by Shakra's song, this was the song that infected me

[glossy halo]

||first sinner found||

This boss is incredibly cool

Not sure how im supposed to hit it though!!

[tired elbow]

||clawline it to death||

[glossy halo]

Oh

Nvm

||it doesn’t do contact damage||

[tired elbow]

||tools help even if the teleport removes the poison effect, you cant exactly leave the boss undamaged too long since it can heal||

[glossy halo]

I understand the assignment

[glossy halo]

I did not know that part

||jumpscare phase 2||

||I guess it’s lore that this boss is kind of widow 2?||

||Not in a bad way this fights sick||

And done

Maybe my favorite boss so far

[glossy halo]

||phantom discovered||

New favorite boss found

gg

Holy shit

That was so cool

||very easy boss and I have no idea what the point of that was but it was so fucking cool||

[tired elbow]

||it lets you skip the last judge as the last act 1 boss||

[glossy halo]

||How da hell do u get all the way there without Clawline or double jump||

[tired elbow]

Skill™

[glossy halo]

||Is that a path intended by the game||

Oh actually im misremembering

Yeah that makes sense then

||I forgot that u can just go to bilewater||

||It was concerningly easy though||

I guess act 1 boss scaling

[tired elbow]

||yea its a tradeoff, easier boss but you have to do the mist puzzle||

[glossy halo]

Speaking of

||What’s the deal with the mist||

||Like once u clear it and u progress the room that bridges u to sinners road is one of the rooms from the mist||

||is it like the ghosts of the ppl who died from sinners road? Is it just there to be cool and have aura?||

[tired elbow]

||team cherry REALLY wanted to have a Lost Woods section||

[glossy halo]

Ok well

||Time to go watch Sherma die||

[tired elbow]

||the actual unintented path is wisp thicket||

[glossy halo]

I was putting this one off

[glossy halo]

Is WHERE

[glossy halo]

Severely hoping im proven wrong

[tired elbow]

You havent found it yet?

[glossy halo]

No??

Where da hell

[tired elbow]

||top left of greymoor, on the windmills||

[glossy halo]

???

Hold

I’m gonna rip the bandaid off first and then I’ll do that

||the stage has a shortcut to whiteward right||

Or do I ||have to run all the way thru the citadel again||

[tired elbow]

Pretty sure it doesnt

[glossy halo]

Fuck my ass

[tame jay]

one way in one way out

trapped forever

[glossy halo]

U really make this sound appealing

[tame jay]

i love it

goated area

[glossy halo]

I also found ||the freaky huntress bug||

[tired elbow]

Still mad it took me until the end of the game to find the ||silk heart|| there

[glossy halo]

||im unsure I ever want to actually interact with her again considering what happened the last time I took a quest from a weird person asking me to feed their kid||

Can someone just tell me where ||the map to this hellhole is||

[tame jay]

||whiteward||? iirc it should just be on the bench with the dead guy

or maybe i'm tripping

[tired elbow]

||Get the elevator down, go to the left, up, right until you find the elevator hole, right, down, left||

[sour ocean]

Make sure to play the Needolin

[tired elbow]

Also there's a mask shard ||under the elevator||

[glossy halo]

||Holy shit he didn’t die||

[sour ocean]

play the Needolin

[glossy halo]

I did

New song unlocked…

Unless I was supposed to play it for longer for something specific to happen

Wow I really don’t like ||the unraveled||

[sour ocean]

||You made Sherma cry you monster||

[glossy halo]

||Sherma was crying regardless||

[glossy halo]

Holy shit this guy sucks

[sour ocean]

yes, highly underhated fight

[glossy halo]

Literally every single thing about him blows

Why is the arena so hard to see

[sour ocean]

I like how he ||can instantly pop up where you're standing||

[glossy halo]

Yeah.

I like how ||his stupid head thing can hit u if you bounce off him with grapplehook||

[tired elbow]

||the tailcoat dealing contact damage is actually bullshit||

||oops, accidentally landed 3 pixels inside of that fucking trapeze, 2 damage time||

[glossy halo]

YEAH

This may be my 2nd least favorite boss

Actually

This is worse than bitchfly

It’s done

[glossy halo]

Ur telling me I have to fight ||the sentinel||

||New crest unlocked and I STILL am just playing hunter||

This boss is really hard…

[tired elbow]

||second sentinel?||

||just spam tools at him he dies in 20 seconds tops||

[glossy halo]

Noting this down…

[glossy halo]

That actually wasn’t as hard as I thought even without doing this

||I think I was just getting skill issued by the upwards spin||

||The game finally made me fight moorwing too||

||I guess im just on buss rush right now ||

[tired elbow]

||does he know chat||

[glossy halo]

Don’t say that

[tame jay]

||he doesn't know ||

[glossy halo]

I’m Going To Kill You

||and a lot more bosses apparently||

||wisp thicket fucking blows||

||this boss is dogshit at least he looks really cool||

[sour ocean]

I didn't mind that boss

Have you figured out you can down dash yet

[tired elbow]

||Have you figured out you can delver's dive it?||

[glossy halo]

Yes

[glossy halo]

That I can what huh

I didn’t think the boss is actually hard at all just obtusely designed

It’s like bed of chaos tier

||Not being able to build silk is the part that’s actually extremely stupid||

[tired elbow]

||tool you find in underworks, its basically temu descending dive||

[sour ocean]

It was initially annoying, but I got the hang of it fairly quickly

It's certainly not on the tier of ||Sister Splinter or Unravelled||

[glossy halo]

Those were both also F tier fights

[glossy halo]

||Oh is that the drill||

I just spammed ||lightning rods||

[tired elbow]

I mean

Cant bring up shitty fights without ||groal and lugoli||

[glossy halo]

||sister splinter at least had a good area but those 2 are stuck in blight town and it’s shittier sequel ||

[tired elbow]

||wailing mother is also up there but not as bad as those 2||

[glossy halo]

||Broodmother?||

[tired elbow]

Yes

[glossy halo]

Yeah im currently fighting

||Extremely annoying at least she’s funny though||

[glossy halo]

The hardest boss in the game for me so far has been ||the rhinoceros beetle in the memorium||

[tame jay]

||her name is Ass Jim ||

[unreal crypt]

|| skarrsinger karmelita || attempt 59

[tired elbow]

https://youtu.be/W5oHjHDRJuQ

[tame jay]

what the fuck

[sour ocean]

Yeah I don't think ||Wickerman is as bad as them, he's just a parkour puzzle||

[rocky stump]

good news is that there are ways to cheese groal

[tired elbow]

Yea only connected the dots much later that you can just ||overdose on lifeblood||

[rocky stump]

Well I was more so referring to the fact that ||if you just let him eat you you can actually out heal the damage he does from eating you and still get damage off cause mashing to escape does damage to him||

[tired elbow]

||tried to do that in my attempts and it never really worked out, might just be bc i'm really bad at mashing||

[sour ocean]

I swear by the ||central pool method||

[glossy halo]

||fleatopia unlocked||

[glossy halo]

Holy shit ||groal|| is putting so much hate in my heart

||bilewater|| is possibly the least fun I’ve had in this entire game

[glossy halo]

||lace 2 done||

Very fun fight

||||

[glossy halo]

Now fighting ||grand mother||

Holy shit this is so cool

Wait that was really easy

||LACE NO||

||Fake out credits?||

[glossy halo]

||BELL BEAST IS NOW A MOTHER AND STILL MY GOAT TRULY A GENERATIONAL CHAMP||

[sour ocean]

||Bell Beast probably could've contributed to some of the other boss fights tbh||

||lazy fucker||

[glossy halo]

||she was in labor she couldn’t fight||

[glossy halo]

||Elegy of the deep unlocked||

||is this when I finally get to meet the pretty lady statue||

[glossy halo]

||I just went through this HELLISH parkour for LITERALLY NOTHING????????||

||is this a Mr mushroom thing @sour ocean||

[sour ocean]

||yes, plus you can get a memento on the surface using||||the Needolin||

[glossy halo]

Horseshit

It took me like actually half an hour to get thru that whole thing

[tired elbow]

||path of pain moment||

[glossy halo]

Holy shit ||karmellita|| is so fucking cool

Holy shit ||nyleth|| is so fucking not cool

[tired elbow]

||What about khann?||

[glossy halo]

||I haven’t gotten to him yet||

||I have a vague hunch where to find him||

||I wonder how the fleas are doing…||

[sour ocean]

||Kratt is gonna ask you to bounce on it||

[glossy halo]

[glossy halo]

||Lost verdania is cool and all but both of these bosses are doodoo dogshit||

[sour ocean]

||Both?||

[glossy halo]

||stag and the dancers||

||I find both to be rather obtuse||

||cogwork dancers but way more annoying ||

||palestag is actually just an abominable fight though||

[sour ocean]

Oh yeah, I had purged it from my mind

||Verdania deserved what happened to it, awful area||

[glossy halo]

Extremely true

||They wasted such a pretty area on these enemies and these bosses ||

[sour ocean]

||Clover isn't too bad, but after the tearjerker that is Cogwork Dancers it's gonna be hard to follow up||

[glossy halo]

||It’s not that bad but in comparison to how much I enjoyed cogwork clover feels like a slap in the face||

[glossy halo]

The racing minigame has been discovered

[glossy halo]

Still haven’t beaten ||karmellita||

It’s been a 3 day process…

||the fight itself is godlike and prob my favorite so far in the entire game but I wish it didn’t have a wave fight beforehand ||

[glossy halo]

||Considering just taking the L and using the conjoined heart||

[glossy halo]

||WHAT DO YOU MEAN I HAVE TO DO EVERY WAVE IN THE CORAL TOWER EVERY TIME||

||nvm this is the bullshit I’m skipping w the heart||

||Time to spend 7 more days on karmellita||

[tired elbow]

||You dont, you get a shortcut after the 3rd wave||

[glossy halo]

||im just gonna fight karmellita||

[sour ocean]

||when she chains together three jumps and you can't avoid it, so fun||

[glossy halo]

I have not had such an experience actually

The fight has been really fun for me

[sour ocean]

Aside from that one thing it's a great fight

[glossy halo]

Every flea has been acquired

||time for Mario party||

||lost garmond||

Ok this boss is actually bullshit can’t lie

[glossy halo]

||Back to Mario party||

[tired elbow]

||does he know about seth chat?||

[glossy halo]

Yes

||flea juggle is COOKING ME||

||Possibly harder than many of the bosses in this game||

[tired elbow]

||Horizontal slashes sends them up btw||

[glossy halo]

I’m aware

||What I did not realize is that shaman shockwaves knock them up||

[sour ocean]

I managed to do it with Hunter Crest

[glossy halo]

||trobbio 2 time||

[glossy halo]

This boss is a little silly

[sour ocean]

It's a race between getting a migraine & beating the boss

[glossy halo]

Just feel like there’s a pretty notable amount of undodgeables going on here

[sour ocean]

||TROBBIO... (sad)||

[glossy halo]

||the first fight was so peak too…||

[glossy halo]

||Is there gonna be a trobbio 3 ||

[tame jay]

||dlc will have troupe master trobbio, trust||

[glossy halo]

Ok back to ||karmellita|| for an hour

||I think spamming harpoon is actually semi effective||

[sour ocean]

||Nightmare King Trobbio||

[glossy halo]

@sour ocean I’ve been wondering for a while but is ||Styx not a spider||

||I was under the impression that those were a hot commodity in Pharloom||

[sour ocean]

He's the same species as ||Huntress, though I'm not really sure what species||

[glossy halo]

||It sort of just seems like a spider ||

||do we see any mantises in pharloom?||

[tired elbow]

||arent they the same person?||

[tired elbow]

||green prince yea||

[sour ocean]

Are they? What leads you to believe that?

I can think of one piece of evidence that would disprove that theory

[tired elbow]

||their nest if you super jump into it||

||then again, huntress can die but styx is still fine, so ehhhh||

[sour ocean]

Yeah ||Huntress gets devoured if she doesn't distract her kids||

[glossy halo]

Oh tru

[glossy halo]

||This might be evidence that they aren’t even the same species idk||

[sour ocean]

Is it a Mantis? I always took him to be a cricket

[sour ocean]

||Styx can also die||

[tired elbow]

||yea and huntress remains fine||

[glossy halo]

Arent there crickets in other places

[glossy halo]

Ok

|| i have acquired all 4 hearts||

||karmellita is easily both my favorite boss in the game so far and the hardest I’ve fought||

[sour ocean]

||she was the only earworm that got me||

[glossy halo]

||baby hornet ||

[glossy halo]

||Icl to beat the boss I had to lock in and start listening to my own music I was getting too distracted by how good it was ||

[glossy halo]

||who’s her mom btw||

[sour ocean]

||Herrah the Beast, one of the Dreamers in the original Hollow Knight||

||Tasked with keeping the Hollow Knight sealed away in the Temple of the Black Egg||

[glossy halo]

Seeing

||And is the stuff between hornet and the hive in hk1 too or is that new in this game||

I must admit I never finished hk1 so there are some patches in my lore knowledge

[sour ocean]

||it was cut content iirc, but everyone took it as canon anyway||

[glossy halo]

Just from her name?

||What exactly is the vibe there anyways||

[sour ocean]

||The Hive?||

[glossy halo]

||Well sure but more specifically between hornet and the hive||

[sour ocean]

||Hivelore is sparse at best||

||It's basically Hornet is half Weaver/Half Wyrm & was raised by 3 queens||

[glossy halo]

||So she was just raised by the hive queen because she’s a special baby?||

||DID ALL THE SNAILS DIE||

[sour ocean]

Maybe ||Vespa & Herrah were besties||

[glossy halo]

||And followup question from the conversation with white lady is the implication that hornet is as destined to do this from birth or something||

[sour ocean]

||The White Lady straight up knows it's a memory, it's not a flashback||

[glossy halo]

Yes but

Idk that whole thing was confusing to me

I’m not good at media literacy

[sour ocean]

||The first two were flashbacks, with Hornet changing back to Post-Pilgrim Hornet after each one. Hornet loses the pale cloak, and the White Lady continues to speak to her||

[glossy halo]

||No I understand that part||

||Just not the conversation itself||

[sour ocean]

||They raised her to be her own person, not a pawn of their houses. The White Lady gives her the Everbloom because Hornet has chosen to go into the Void||

[glossy halo]

Seeing

||then what was the part about seeming harsh and apologizing about?||

||is that from the flashback or from the present moment||

[sour ocean]

||Flashback, but it's not referring to Hornet, it's referring to the creation of the vessels I think||

[glossy halo]

Seeing

Ok maybe I should’ve asked this first but

||why is the white lady able to do that anyways||

||just because she’s god?||

[sour ocean]

Presumably

[glossy halo]

Inch resting

||Is that a her specific thing or wouldn’t that have somewhat minor implications on the cutscene before getting void heart in hk1?||

[sour ocean]

||The Pale King only has eyes for his boy, the HK||

||He ain't breaking out of a flashback for some crappy vessel||

||Also I just rewatched it & the HK looks back at our character||

[glossy halo]

Yes that happens

||holy shit if shakra dies I will actually never play this game again I cannot bear this trauma||

[glossy halo]

||Entering the abyss for what I presume is the last time||

Home stretch

[sour ocean]

||He doesn't know about Act 4||

[glossy halo]

||the ever bloom is going to die before I come back to the surface and the void will consume me isn’t it||

Holy SHIT ||grand mother will looks cool||

[tired elbow]

||does he know about the quadruple damage chat||

[glossy halo]

||why does this boss do 2 contact damage||

[glossy halo]

||lost lace dead||

||that boss was kinda stinky compared to lace 2 idk||

||For a second I thought lace just got left in the abyss LOL @sour ocean||

[tired elbow]

||silksong good ending||

[glossy halo]

||What is the conclusion of this ending supposed to be? Was this a happy ending? Please tell me shakra didn’t die||

Time to tierlist every boss because I’m a souls player

||who even is the third boss in the didn’t fight category ||

||I assume the 1st one is from the gillie quest and the 2nd is the wormways npc||

[tired elbow]

||shows up at the edge of blasted steps||

||also man i feel so bad about cheesing lace 2||

[glossy halo]

Seeing

Well that was a cool game my favorite part was when hornet became the hollow knight and sang the silk song and the full knight (the opposite of the hollow knight) fucking exploded

[tawny bolt]

i really need to get back into silksong

i left off at ||the last judge||

[tawny bolt]

Idk how I got so far on the first try to that boss I’m eating dirt now

[tawny bolt]

Nvm I did it

[tawny bolt]

Holy shit ||clockwork dancers|| IS SO FUCKING LONG

[rocky stump]

Tbf it is one of the easiest fights in the game

[tawny bolt]

It is but the runback feels so long on top of the first two thirds of the fight feeling like it takes forever

[glossy halo]

||The fight goes by a bit quicker if you keep track of which one you’re hitting||

||They hypothetically have a total health pool of like 1200 or something if you don’t just turbo kill one of them||

[tawny bolt]

I don’t think I’d be able to do that well

[glossy halo]

If you use pollip pouch it makes it a lot easier

[glossy halo]

||Recently discovered the moorwing flea thing is actually explained in game|| @sour ocean

[tawny bolt]

i did manage to get that boss down

[sour ocean]

Oh? What's the reasoning

[glossy halo]

||It’s body is hung up on top of one of the caravans they actually killed it||

||and it’s the big ugly bug that they’re roasting and eating when they move again|||

||if you despawn moorwing without using the fleas it’s a totally different bug||

[sour ocean]

Huh, neat

£20 btw

[glossy halo]