Point is the timeline only accounts for Batlamyus
When you have Batlamyus + Tube Construct. Things get fucky.
#Yugioh Lore Discussion
viral orbit
Note, Tube Construct is visually more similar to Batlamyus than her El-Shaddoll version
With the core orb and all
jade iron
She fused with Decatron, so maybe she shunted part of her original form into the yellow tube
But Winda was already in Decatron's yellow tube
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halcyon crane
I swear if they involve time travel to DT plot in an attempt to fix the timeline and explain all this contradiction, only to make it more convoluted
long bison
Nah, they just retcon things in. That's their go-to, it seems.
Apparently the Genex Controller dude was programmed by Sophia all this time and repaired itself like a mindless drone to fight in the final battle and whatever.
viral orbit
Sophia or Tierra lol
long bison
Sophia. 
...Oh wait, never mind. I guess their programming revived them because of Sophia returning, but they're here to destroy the world for Tierra?
jade iron
They'll destroy the world by.. purifying the air
viral orbit
They'll destroy the world by.. purifying the air
Too much oxygen could be toxic to living organisms
jade iron
Too much oxygen could be toxic to living organisms
Unless they're photosynthetic purifying the air doesn't add additional oxygen
viral orbit
Unless they're photosynthetic purifying the air doesn't add additional oxygen
Undine can totally add more oxygen by just performing Electrolysis
jade iron
Undine can totally add more oxygen by just performing Electrolysis
is that something Undine can do?
viral orbit
is that something Undine can do?
Idk but feels like something she could. You got her glass body that's filled up with water and electric wires
jade iron
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viral orbit
Tierra making sure these mechanical beings have tits.
Just like her (god makes things in his image.)
glacial dune
Besides, wasn't that more Sophia?
long bison
S-Force Nightchaser's design looks so damn cool...it's too bad it's in a terrible archetype. From what I heard, she's just a simple android tasked to kill Masquerena?
jade iron
It's imperative we give the android high heels, a hoodie, and boobs - S Force scientist
hollow wraith
the only being that can defeat a catgirl is another catgirl
it's like how the only thing that can scratch a diamond is another diamond
jade iron
S-Force Nightchaser's design looks so damn cool...it's too bad it's in a terribl...
"Since Chiyomaru had become a deserter, he was created as a replacement android.
Along with Masquerena's execution, Chiyomaru's execution is also programmed.
As time passes after activation, he begins to have doubts about Chiyomaru's decision to leave the organization to help Masquerena.
Chiyomaru is irreplaceable, but there are plenty of others who can replace him.
If she has feelings, then her driving force in pursuing the two of them is likely anger and jealousy."
Top right text of the image you posted
jade iron
the only being that can defeat a catgirl is another catgirl
The high heels are there so there's space for the lightning to come out
warm minnow
@foggy lotus raws are out
foggy lotus
I'll go look
foggy lotus
Twitter
lean surge
Just straight up lying.
They are gonna post animated shorts based on diff series starting with these two from April next year. Nothing about a crossover.
halcyon crane
Yeah that's too weird to be true
Sky Striker doesnt has implication that they capable of dimension travel lol
golden flax
the two decks don't even play well together
foggy lotus
Isn't this just going be like
Probably a 2-minute piece of animation if that
To shill cards
hollow shell
+2
viral orbit
Probably a 2-minute piece of animation *if that*
Probably like pokemon origin
6 to 8 minutes
Once per month
halcyon crane
Even so, it will jump the point between episode so overall viewing experience when binging would feel weird
long bison
If they're shorts, then that's pretty nice. I don't think an anime version of the Sky Striker manga would keep people's attention.
halcyon crane
Oh yeah for Sky Striker sure, they always feels like short story that manga somehow stretch long enough
Albaz lore tho, I don't think you can fit that in short story format
Most likely they would just adapt the first encounter of Albaz & Ecclessia
lean surge
She looks so cool, man.
Also ignore Roze is supposed to Hayate and not Kagari or Hornet Drones apparently.
Anyway, this is so divorced from the manga LORE, its unreal.
halcyon crane
Idk what's going on with SS manga and im sure it's not what I imagined
pearl obsidian
lean surge
Sometimes I wonder if the Magistus LORE is also this way and the manga canon doesn't strictly apply to the card canon, but we have nothing directly contradictory, maybe you could argue Zoroa being the villian was a retcon, but since we barely had any info for then you can't explitly say that for a fact.
halcyon crane
Granted, without manga we doesnt even know what Raye and latter Roze was fighting at
Also yeah how everything before Aleister went mad is pretty vague
lean surge
I truly believe the manga wholesale retcon or outright contradicts pre existing Striker LORE.
Like Raye being the only human on the planet comes out of nowhere.
pearl obsidian
Like Raye being the only human on the planet comes out of nowhere.
Only human on the planet
That they know of*
lean surge
Prev LORE blurbs just make her out to be generic schoolgirl in mecha anime type deal with Roze being a mecha pilot of enemy nation who shows up midway.
halcyon crane
Generally it is due the lack of adversary in actual card game before the manga coming out
Like you can make more comprehendable plot with S-Force
lean surge
I think faceless nations fighting for whatever reason is a fine enough motivation.
A big gripe I had with the Striker manga is the endless congo line of bloated side cast.
Most of which got made into bad cards.
halcyon crane
Yeah they generally just there to be there
lean surge
And I feel not getting the Alt Kagari -> HAMP -> Linkage which was the coolest part of the cards just makes it so much worse. It's like adapting your fav show and only keep surface level elements and changing everything else.
https://imgur.com/St23pEu
Like this is such a downgrade.
And everything following Linkage, like Alt Rota and now Alt Hayate and Alt Raye are so goddamn cool and the manga doesn't connect to them at all for no reason.
halcyon crane
Sometime wish it was written like tokusatsu
inner quest
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/470337409729560586/1320288758398062672/im...
FOUR MORE YEARS. FOUR MORE YEARS
inner quest
I love my evil oshi and she's about to pick a fight with the police
Could she be anymore based
Also someone said she looks older in the link 1 art. Although it might just be the angle
viral orbit
Also someone said she looks older in the link 1 art. Although it might just be t...
More like she's based more so on the alt art
lean surge
I don't think the face looks like either.
Could just be a diff artist, but the chibi looks too much like the originals to be the case, tho could be a good at matching that style but not their regular forms'.
jade iron
Do we have Snake-Eyes Pendulum Dragon yet
long bison
I love my evil oshi and she's about to pick a fight with the police
Her effect to dump Lila to the GY is suspect tho. 
Is Kisikil making a deal to betray her?
inner quest
If she betrays Lil-La I'm cancelling her as my oshi
hollow shell
You can cancel all you want, you arent getting those superchats back
lean surge
Not sure what's the issue here? Seems pretty normal anatomy to me.
halcyon crane
Yeah it's far cry from Labrynth Lady ethereal hips
inner quest
Not sure what's the issue here? Seems pretty normal anatomy to me.
I saw like 3 different tweets comparing Raye's bust size from the new art vs the old ones
Which is the one I posted was doing
lean surge
It seems basically same as before. If anything her back and arms seem more bulked up.
On the note of Raye horny posting, it was the worst on Cross Duel's release.
People saw the 3D viewer and insta looked up her skirt and were calling her brave for wearing black underwear.
inner quest
💀
inner quest
Can't wait for manga alt Aleister
lean surge
We kinda have it. Aleister already has a good alt that connects him/"foreshadows" his involvement with the Spellbook folks.
And the new Crowley Magistus retrain shows his manga version of his Magistus times.
inner quest
I meant alt art like the manga alt arts
We don't have one do we?
Just the one facing forward from gold pack
lean surge
Not so far.
IIRC, we only got the manga alts after the story nearly concluded, so until then it's prob new cards only.
And tbf, they have been of much better quality than the Striker ones with Aileron/Magi.
wild siren
https://x.com/emptyayya/status/1870740306179891296?s=19
Isn't she 15.
golden flax
She's 15 in a pre-timeskip during the manga intro, memory serve me right.
wild siren
Yeah that's what I was thinking
lean surge
Raye is 13 at the start of the manga, but 15 everywhere else (including all the card forms).
Roze is therefore 2. Azalea/Camelia are a couple days or maybe months old at best.
long bison
Isn't she lying down? You can clearly see her bottom on the right.
Or....is it the sofa couch? Idk
jade iron
Isn't she lying down? You can clearly see her bottom on the right.
Circle which part you mean
long bison
The full art of new link 1
jade iron
That's the couch yea
inner quest
that's the chair backrest
Her feet are behind the scren in the bottom of the art
and she's resting on her knee
Cause if that's not the back of the chair
KI-SIKIL GOT CAKE
primal spire
oh she's in league with the sforce
Wait what makes you think that?
primal spire
KI-SIKIL GOT CAKE
golden flax
Wait what makes you think that?
the s-force logo is there on (our) left in the picture
on the little red square
some people think that's a sign she's in with them
long bison
What exactly is this? A "Prototype"?
Is she making a deal to get this prototype machine?
hushed dune
Might be a Schematic for a Portable Dimensional Portal or smth from the S Force
It had their Symbol displayed
lean surge
Ye, it's more likely their next steal target is from the S-Force over them being allied.
inner quest
What exactly is this? A "Prototype"?
It's a[EM:P Meowmine]
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It's a[EM:P Meowmine]
hushed dune
Isn't that a Hand Grenade?
The effect makes it seem like it is atleast
Cause it destroys and doesn't banish a Monster
Oh wait I am stupid it bounces smth back
Hm
inner quest
It's such a good card
hushed dune
Her themed Trap is also funny
You can bounce back any Card you control once per turn
For 3 turns
I also like Little Opposition
Cute card for S Force
jade iron
I wonder what the timeline is for the orbs of creation/destruction
Sophia has them, they're stolen from her by Sombre/Kerykeion, ???, Tierra gets them
Nekroz of Sophia I'm not sure we have any proof they the actual orbs, rather just evocations of them
dry lodge
Sophia has them, they're stolen from her by Sombre/Kerykeion, ???, Tierra gets t...
Nepyrim has to come after Tierra though, doesn't it?
Also, fun fact, Tierra's orbs are a different shape than Sophia's
jade iron
Nepyrim has to come after Tierra though, doesn't it?
Latestage DT lore is a complete mess
Unsalvageable
viral orbit
@lean surge it seems like the orbs are not per attribute
Since the green is more of "Nature" than wind/earth
The shoulder orbs are also different from 3 around her
lean surge
Didn't notice the green one.
Thought they were out of frame top left/right.
So, a potential brown would be behind the black orb to tthe left, maybe?
I feel they are deffo attribute. You can even see the fire/water emerging from the two front ones.
Which one was the Fiend again?
It is Earth.
It's the only one with a diff summoning condition.
Maybe, what if this is just a combination of the first three. Maybe we get an Evo with all 4 combined in next wave.
Tho, this could be like Nemeses and have no future support.
No wait, they got one card next set I think. So, it's still possible.
Ok, I looked at the spacing and angle of the circle again.
It is deffo just 3 orbs.
This feels important. 
viral orbit
Probably based on this ? @lean surge
With the dark/light orb being earth and metal ?
viral orbit
Tho, this could be like Nemeses and have no future support.
Nemeses got keystone as their 2nd wave
It wasn't in the original wave
lean surge
I can see it but the arrangement is weird if that were the case.
I think it's more like to be attributes missing Earth for now.
And we get evolved form next set.
lean surge
I could see it being a contact fusion that needs a 2500 atk mon + a 2500 def mon or smthg.
Could be feathers.
It's kinda hard to see.
viral orbit
I could see it being a contact fusion that needs a 2500 atk mon + a 2500 def mon...
They hate extra deck lol. The quick play locks u for 2 turns
lean surge
Oh true, true.
Must be another nomi then.
Tho, another boss mon with just 2500/2500 statline feels like it'd be underwhelming.
Unless it gains another 2500/2500 after being summoned or smthg.
pearl obsidian
Okay so
This seems to be the conclusion to the diabell storyline
So that leaves the epilogue cards for next set I imagine
pearl obsidian
Yes
inner quest
Is it just me or has the diabelle lore been kinda. Not as good/clear as the other stuff
lean surge
They rushed it with going to the backstory.
inner quest
Like it's never felt cohesive to me like World Legacy or DT3 did
lean surge
Should've done more Sinful Spoil hunts before Beelze shows up to steal Poplar.
pearl obsidian
^
inner quest
Do you reckon they realised after OSS what they'd done and wanted to not do that again
But still made Azamina anyway
TBH I don't mind Diabellze showing up early. It's just weird we didn't get much post-white woods flashback
Snake-Eye > Goblin > Woods > Azamina > Diabellze getting turned into a dragon > Final showdown
Actually saying that this was exactly how fast dracolore happened
Luster/majespecter > Dinomist > Igknight > Amorphage and final showdown
Maybe after woods they could've done another deck that has its own Sinful Spoil like snake-eye
And just not made it as bullshit as OSS
Also why is Poplar in the woods synchro now
Fam was just Diabellstar's marketable plushie
halcyon crane
Albaz still has the best lore by a mile, and it doesnt need 3 seasons +retcon for that
For starter it has Kitt
inner quest
We love kitt
She may hate thunders but we can look past that.
Best lore though
Broken worlds
a[Kashtira riseheart]
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a[Kashtira riseheart]
inner quest
I can fix him
halcyon crane
Visas lore are just Arc V 2.0
The concept itself is gucchi but I don't feels with the way it presented
viral orbit
@lean surge are they pretending poplar was always there....
wild siren
For starter it has Kitt
Kitt has drip
Also see the art I posted in #1023275848301805709
inner quest
I mean she's breaking apart in the trap
Unless she's breaking apart here and the fusion is the purified version
Like idlee and Justiciar Ib
Usually epilogue cards come as standalone in the pack after the finale
Like Ages of Stars and Frost
or The Black Goat Laughs
a[the black goat laughs]
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a[the black goat laughs]
halcyon crane
Aluber going "That's all folks"
inner quest
NGL at the end of the albaz anime
mid-credit scene
Just aluber's mask and a laugh
absolute cinema
viral orbit
viral orbit
I think they rushed it to get to Albaz 2
There won't be albaz 2
viral orbit
That means nothing
And the animation chronicles stuff is just gonna be a recap
It will get 1 card here and there but it won't be anything major
lean surge
I feel like it will be more substantial.
viral orbit
It's sharing its spot with sk strikers too
lean surge
Since they specifically mentioning it in the new product blurb.
Would be weird if it's just one card.
viral orbit
I feel like it will be more substantial.
If albaz gets that then sky strikers will do
lean surge
Man, I am begging Konami not to adapt the manga at all.
You don't think Konami will do another 5 card wave for Strikers?
This is her world and we are just living in it.
primal spire
And the animation chronicles stuff is just gonna be a recap
Probably
viral orbit
You don't think Konami will do another 5 card wave for Strikers?
More like up to 5+ per booster for at least 1 year (aka 4 packs)
halcyon crane
YGO Manga, bar the first one, rarely ever follow anime, so hopefully it's own version owo
lean surge
Not sure if they'll start Albaz 2 tho.
Since, my belief is Albaz 2 will be nearly all new decks.
While these will most likely be tie ins with whatever gets adapted. So, we'll start with Dogma and Tribrigs and so on.
lean surge
More like up to 5+ per booster for at least 1 year (aka 4 packs)
I mean, sure.
That sounds about right. A 5-10 card wave for whatever gets an episode is likely.
lean surge
a[poplar]
halcyon crane
Yeah
lean surge
I just noticed his body is like a snake esp with the fire fake eyes matching real Snakes fake-eyes, and not one of those flying squirrels.
halcyon crane
Snek after all
lean surge
Man, this is such a cool design.
Wait, him having 2 arms and no legs makes him a biped.
halcyon crane
Human Owo
lean surge
The sample really makes these so much worse to look at, man.
Why is Konami doing this?
Furry Starr looks so sick, man.
Scalie, I guess.
viral orbit
She's le archfiend mod
lean surge
Wait, I just noticed the color scheme is same as Big Snek?
Is this like a SSj4 situation?
viral orbit
Big snake is poplar + fiend diabellstarr
viral orbit
I thought big Snek was just Poplar.
No it's fiend starr version of damned dragon basically
lean surge
Holy shit, her abs.
wild siren
What's Synchro Poplar meant to be then?
To go even further beyond or something
lean surge
viral orbit
What's Synchro Poplar meant to be then?
Synchro poplar is meant to be og diabell arm thingy
lean surge
I know that. Just assumed it became the big Snek after this one became the new Azamina Fusion somehow.
The exact timeline of the last showdown is a bit lost on me.
viral orbit
But yeh this is starr + beast + poplar
It's more or less her version of damned dragon
viral orbit
Is that fucking Demon Poplar in bottom left?
Goblin's beast
lean surge
a[goblin's beast]
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a[goblin's beast]
viral orbit
It was needed, since fiend is super effective against illusion
New diabell is fused with him
See here
lean surge
Thank you.
viral orbit
Beast only looks a bit different cuz he no longer powered up by his sinful spoil thingy
Poplar ate that
Btw the new dragon is what killed her
Here's something neat, new Diabellze is styling her like similar to that of Morrian
While also referencing the illusion dragon in the hat @lean surge
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Greatest lore art since a[The World Legacy]
viral orbit
Wait... poplar us back to being red (original color) befare it started eating that diabellstarr pink magic
hushed dune
Albaz still has the best lore by a mile, and it doesnt need 3 seasons +retcon fo...
Would have been better if it stopped with the Link Furries fighting with the Dogmatika defactors
No need for all that "And now we go to a different tribe for the 6th time to just end up at Dogmatika again at the end with it being a Boss Faction with a second Phase somehow"
inner quest
Can't have a Bizarre adventure without at least 4 tribe visits
And one racist party member (kitt)
lean surge
Insane LORE combo of Tistina X Ashened.
You can clearly see the Tistina bits from Tainted but Ashened only has the purple flames for now, can anyone help spot me the Red eye orb thing in any of the Ashened/Veidos cards or anything else that ties it together?
Veidos corrupting Tistina feels so out of left field tho.
viral orbit
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Gg5awJdaMAUkKi_?format=jpg&name=medium
The orb seems to have a dragon inside it ?
lean surge
I can kinda see it, but not sure. Could just be vague darkness with highlights looking like eyes.
hollow shell
The orb seems to have a dragon inside it ?
How novel
Normally its the dragons that have all the orbs on them
lean surge
This is how Veidos is reborn by infecting beings of Light and making them into a cocoon would be a cool idea tho.
viral orbit
This is how Veidos is reborn by infecting beings of Light and making them into a...
Someone pointed out it might be returned of the Tistina. Which is already chaotic (Fire/Aqua) and becomes level 10
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@foggy lotus can u translate
foggy lotus
It looks like Tistina Returned Child being immersed in miasma(?) and turning into a crystal
But
It also powers up Ashened because you can use it to get your Veidos back
They're vastly different things but the contrast between the divine-corrupting light and the destructive darkness is probably deliberate
Something like that
Had to look up what Veidos does 
lean surge
Chaotic Elements seems to depict Returned of the Tistina exposed to Miasma and becoming Crystals, and the second eff seems to take back Veidos given to your opponent and powers up Ashened decks. I don't think the two archetypes belong to the same world view, but the contrast between the names of God Devouring Light and Destructive Darkness seem to be deliberate.
Note, the TCG names of the two are Divinity that Defies Darkness and Dragon of Endless Darkness.
foggy lotus
Yep I know nothing about these 
working off barely any context was fun
I love how different the TCG and OCG are
"Defies Darkness"
"Light of Divine Corruption"
Nice
lean surge
You got it backwards. It's Light that is doing the corrupting or devouring in this case. 
Which is a weird way to talk about your good "Light" guys.
foggy lotus
Yeah as in the light that corrupts the divine
Not the first time I've seen this kind of thing from Japan
I love it
lean surge
Devouring/Corrupting God is sick conceptually tho. Makes our alliteration Xyz feel so lame by comparision.
lean surge
It also comes out of left field here, because except for the main deck Crystal God Tistina, everything else is named X of the Tistina.
foggy lotus
GX kind of had that with the light of destruction
lean surge
Then it's randomly, Tistina the Divinity that Defies Darkness and cannot fit in the name box.
foggy lotus
The Gaogaigar OVA was literally "we have to DESTROY these immortals powered by a SUN that lets them regenerate infinitely before they suck our universe dry"
lean surge
foggy lotus
Thank you Japan
foggy lotus
Something something scrap and build
Also I appreciate
"Tistina the DDD"
Good alliteration
viral orbit
The same hand/wing things
foggy lotus
X
halcyon crane
They're about to grate cheese on it
lean surge
Ye, I noted it a bit later.
Was still confused on the why, tho.
Anything in the design doc?
viral orbit
Nothing much
inner quest
Diabellestar lore deserved better pacing 
devout hearth
so if this fucker is a death spirit why was it hanging around elz after she got thistled
the other azamina didn't have death spirits
long bison
Is this true? I didn't hear about that at all
The last I heard was that the Magistus story was ending.
halcyon crane
inner quest
Ending? I swear it just started
halcyon crane
Do we learn something from this story?
hollow wraith
The last I heard was that the Magistus story was ending.
the magistus arc is ending but the next arc is a continuation of it
viral orbit
so if this fucker is a death spirit why was it hanging around elz after she got ...
She always had it. She's a necro-kinda mage since she was a baby.
See dem evil ghosts
Baby does death magic
Totally normal for a cute and lovely baby
viral orbit
No way
jade iron
bro.. just one more orb
halcyon crane
Endymion and his furries
hollow wraith
i can't wait for the "citizens of the magic citadel get mad at endymion for wasting taxpayer money on gluing rocks to animals" subplot that was mentioned in one of the lore books
devout hearth
She always had it. She's a necro-kinda mage since she was a baby.
hm I see
long bison
I've been searching for this news of the next arc being a continuation everywhere, but nothing. Only the promotional image of Magistus saying they are "entering the final chapter" I Google translated.
Was this news on YGOrg?
white depot
The latest Magistus chapter really said 
lean surge
I'm still betting on Magister for now.
He's the only Pendymion with no other appearance in the LORE.
On Fool tho, I do hope they reveal that the random terminal that gave his access to the Forbidden Spellbook wasn't an accident but Aleister somehow manipulating shit.
viral orbit
He's the only Pendymion with no other appearance in the LORE.
You forget Rogue
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lean surge
Rogue isn't a pend, smh.
viral orbit
Rogue isn't a pend, smh.
It's not a pend cuz it's a rogue. It's going against endy
jade iron
Luster Pendulum?
shadow sun
Does S-Force tie into anything else?
Besides the obvious stuff
Do Psy Frames, I:P and Time Thiefs go further
hollow wraith
live twins are set in the same world
there's concept art of them hanging out with i:p
halcyon crane
The Double date art
shadow sun
You know this kinda makes Sky Striker weirder
Idk if we take their cosplays to mean lower level of "real" or not
But they cosplay older stuff and then Raye
Is Sky Striker tied to anything besides them?
halcyon crane
Was Sky Striker ever related to anything?
I thought their lore are pretty self-contained
Or else the manga would mention other archetypes
halcyon crane
Pardon, still don't see it
halcyon crane
The way I see it Sky Striker is just some media in their world
long bison
In the Live Twins world, they're just a story, I guess.
shadow sun
Many things are just stories there
I mean tbf the tech in their world seems to match up
Could be like cosplaying soldiers
The other references they make are weirder though
halcyon crane
That just means their relation to Sky Striker is more superficial, like any other references in it rather than the implication that it happen in same timeline
shadow sun
So does this mean Live Twins are above all else somehow
halcyon crane
Because unlike MCU situation where everyone can cosplay as heroes, to cosplay as super soldier from 2 opposing factions in turmoil is like trying to cosplay as Russian vs Ukranian soldiers and I don't like that impication
shadow sun
Yea Strikers are probably still fiction
No connections found to Magistus stuff though right?
Btw do we have clear connections to Upstart and Grepher?
Aait why am I even asking mammoth is on return from dd
Visas also connects to nothing iirc
And I assume Albaz doesn't either
So those are straight up just separated
Does Diabell count through goblins?
halcyon crane
Only Goblins pn their world
Goblin fall under same umbrella terms as archfiend and guardian here
Yes therr's archtype and support for them, but they are spread across multiple unelated stories
shadow sun
Yes therr's archtype and support for them, but they are spread across multiple u...
Yeah so no connection possible
I think I'll try to make a graph of the known connections though
Is DT connected to the base world through Winda?
halcyon crane
@jade iron once made a network diagrams of it. Not sure if he still have the file tho 
wild siren
Is DT connected to the base world through Winda?
Has to be, but with ygo having dimension hopping the answer is ???
lean surge
Y'all are not strong enough to be reminded that Blackwings are related to DT.
shadow sun
Y'all are not strong enough to be reminded that Blackwings are related to DT.
Through an anime card
shadow sun
[Black return]
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[Black return]
Normal Trap
jade iron
I think I'll try to make a graph of the known connections though
Good luck.
This isn't even complete, it just started to lag my computer too much
shadow sun
https://bubbl.us/MzkzNzA0NC83NzkwNzg0Lzc0N2Y0OTM2MmM0ZjJiMDY5MjM5ZDIzODEzNzBkMmY...
Oh fuck that's a lot
Sucks it doesnt have images
jade iron
Bear in mind this is six years old, and is the only surviving one
I had about 6 or 7 made, all with different starting points
sage ocean
TIMELINE ONE:ONE STEP BEHIND
YUGIOH ARC1:ORIGINAL EPS 1-28
YUGIOH VG1:BREED THEN BATTLE
YUGIOH VG2:FORBIDDEN MEMORIES
YUGIOH VG3:DUELISTS OF ROSES
YUGIOH VG4:FALSE BOUND KINGDOM
YUGIOH ARC2:DUEL MONSTERS EPS 1-40
YUGIOH MOVIE1:3 BONDS BEYOND TIME
YUGIOH ARC2:DUEL MONSTERS EPS 41-49
YUGIOH ARC3:THE RULERS OF DUELS 1-48
YUGIOH ARC4:SHADOW REALMS EPS 1-47
YUGIOH MOVIE2:PYRAMID OF LIGHT
YUGIOH ARC5:WAKING DRAGON EPS 1-40
YUGIOH ARC6:GRAND CHAMPIONSHIP EPS 1-14
YUGIOH ARC7:CAPSULE MONSTERS EPS 1-12
YUGIOH ARC8:DAWN TOWARDS THE FINAL DUELS EPS 1-26
YUGIOH GX EPS 1-156
YUGIOH GX MOVIE:3 BONDS BEYOND TIME
YUGIOH GX EPS 157-180
YUGIOH 5D EPS 1-86
YUGIOH 5D MOVIE:3 BONDS BEYOND TIME
YUGIOH 5D EPS 87-156
YUGIOH ZEXAL ONE EPS 1-73+1 SHORT
YUGIOH ZEXAL TWO EPS 1-74
YUGIOH ARCV EPS 1-148
TIMELINE TWO:ONE STEP AHEAD
ORIGINAL MANGA VOLUMES 1-31
GAME KING R MANGA 4 VOLUMES
ORIGINAL MANGA VOLUMES 32-38
TRANSCEND GAME MANGA 2 CHAPTERS
MOVIE:DARK SIDES OF ALL DIMENSIONS
GENERATION X MANGA 9 VOLUMES
FIVE DRAGONS MANGA 9 VOLUMES
ZEXEL I&II MANGA 9 VOLUMES
ZEXEL III DUEL TEAM MANGA 4 VOLUMES
ARC FIVE MANGA 2 VOLUMES
VRAINS EPS 1-120
SEVENS I ROAD ACADEMY MANGA 1 VOLUME
SEVENS II MANGA 3 VOLUMES
SEVENS EPS 1-92
GO RUSH MANGA 4 VOLUMES
GO RUSH EPS 1-144
prove me wrong
lean surge
5Ds and Zexal are on two diff timelines.
halcyon crane
Oh is that from MD? Or other source?
I always have a feeling that the manga is its own canon just like every other YGO manga is
Which means Magistus actual lore is still debatable today...
lean surge
The Scissors Cross is REAL.
Man, I remember waiting for this scene to get adapted in the manga, and each chapter in, it felt less likely and harder to gel with what was going on with there.
wild siren
Genuinely makes me wonder why they even bother with the manga when they're not even meant to be the story
Like, the people want to see the actual story
halcyon crane
The only good YGO manga are the OG, because that's where anime adapted from, as others came later, and OCG one, as it's being it's own story not tied to anything
wild siren
Is the magistus manga even good
viral orbit
Is the magistus manga even good
It's better than sky striker but (very mid)
like a 5 out of 10
Maybe a 6
halcyon crane
If we're being technical, not even the card game are manga accurate, as the key aspect of Magic & Wizads was supposed to be half MtG half DnD and they get rid the latter aspect.
All the bullshit are justifiable like when you ask DM to see if this spupid idea possible, we just don't see the dice roll & cut to excecution for convenience
viral orbit
Honestly, konami should make an online tabletop ygo game
Basically duelist kingdom yugioh
With all DnD like interactions
halcyon crane
I wonder if YGO went off with that route from the get go, the role of judge would be less strict about ruling and just mediator that have to see which out-of-the-blue idea players came up with
Honestly sounds more fun to me
sage ocean
5Ds and Zexal are on two diff timelines.
Nope they aren’t
there’s a reason why Vrains is the only anime that never got a manga. It’s also the only anime that directly references and cameos past events in the manga timeline.
arcv anime resets/reboots the anime timeline which begins the manga timeline
hollow wraith
none of that is true
sage ocean
none of that is true
Mate, there’s a strict reason why vrains didn’t get a manga version and that’s why
hollow wraith
do you have a source for any of this?
sage ocean
the mangas of GX-Go Rush (without vrains) is alot different from the animes. Especially since the mangas were created neck to neck with the anime yet way slower
hollow wraith
the mangas are just separate stories from the anime, arc-v doesn't tie into the mangas at all
sage ocean
Plus they wanted the animes to be way less dark and complicated after vrains by comparison
Especially since they also wanted to switch anime studios afterwards
sage ocean
the mangas are just separate stories from the anime, arc-v doesn't tie into the ...
They aren’t
They are separate timelines
hollow wraith
again, do you have a source for any of what you are saying?
sage ocean
If you combine the mangas with the animes, you are just combining 2 separate things that contradict each ither
Besides Sevens and Rush
Since they did those as prequels to the anime
hollow wraith
and? the mangas and animes are separate canons
i can't think of any time vrains referenced any of the previous yugiohs outside of specifically ushio's 1 second cameo during soulburner's flashback, and that was a blink and you'll miss it thing
sage ocean
i can't think of any time vrains referenced any of the previous yugiohs outside ...
It literally have the same technology introduced in transcend game manga&dark side dimensions movie
Which are both canon to the original yugioh manga
hollow wraith
duel links and link vrains aren't the same thing
wild siren
Imma be real, it sounds like you're acting like your headcanon is canon and are also pinging random people for this twice
You literally pinged someone for a comment that was 2+ years old
sage ocean
duel links and link vrains aren't the same thing
Advertising wise it’s called duel link. But in both they specifically said Link summoning
And both talk about cyberspace
lean surge
The reason Vrains didn't get an anime was because of budgetary reasons.
We know they had to change a lot of shit for the end of Arc V and the totality of Vrains after they blew their load on DSoD.
hollow wraith
Advertising wise it’s called duel link. But in both they specifically said Link ...
if they wanted it to be the same thing they would have just called it the same thing
lean surge
Vrains was originally supposed to deal a whole lot with the Duel Club Yusei joins in like Episode 1.
You can still find remnants of this in Season 1.
sage ocean
The reason Vrains didn't get an anime was because of budgetary reasons.
That wasn’t why.
hollow wraith
yes it was
lean surge
hollow wraith
there is no evidence to suggest otherwise
lean surge
Sure, man. Konami bankrupted their budget for the LORE.
I noticed you've been copypasting this headcanon like 3-4 times across diff channels.
I suggest you make a reddit thread and argue there/get it out of your system instead.
hollow wraith
Vrains was originally supposed to deal a whole lot with the Duel Club Yusei join...
another remnant of this is aoi and go's characters being super different from the rest of the cast. you can tell they were struggling to come up with ways for them to be relevant to the plot since their characters were created for the old version of the story which was completely different
and how prerelease materials said that yusaku was "solving mysteries" and that the theme was about trying new things when the show is not at all about that
long bison
Lmao, so Sky Striker also has a separate anime and manga timeline.
sage ocean
The mangas that was produced always had their own budget that wasn’t connected to the anime budget. Since the manga production usually have to be 1 year ahead of schedule to meet the release date usually.
long bison
I mean, that's one way of having an excuse to make a ton more support.
halcyon crane
They always use manga as excuse to expand supports :toskangy: even if some has totally diffeent playstyle smh
sage ocean
Sure, man. Konami bankrupted their budget for the LORE.
Btw how did Konami even do that to begin with? Was it because the budget of Yugioh Dark Side Dimensions was way higher than the box office returns? Only having over 8 million in the box office. While the film did alot better bluray and dvd sales wise by comparison https://ravegrl.wordpress.com/2017/03/14/yugioh-the-dark-side-of-dimensions-japanese-blu-ray-ranks-no-1-in-sales/
and however streaming pays them for the film.
Seriously who knows the budget for that film anyways? Must be insanely high
sage ocean
https://youtu.be/IWOP-bpKAcs?si=TZWm29TwC08SkEH_
duel monsters
https://youtu.be/yvk-JlxQDZI?si=mZEi1uxBWfNoBwYF
generation x
https://youtu.be/Z2kgIYD7xf8?si=Nxogsf4xMjlXhIME
five dragons
https://youtu.be/cIyzfrdwxic?si=L0tK7TCIJW7qosGo
zexel one
^
best yugioh theme hands down
wild siren
@sage ocean this channel isn't the right place to post the OPs, please keep that to #anime_and_manga
viral orbit
I wonder if YGO went off with that route from the get go, the role of judge woul...
We need a server for that. We could play on untap i guess
glacial trellis
Hello. Could someone explain to me what the Snake-Eyes are in the Diabellstar lore and how they're connected to Azamina (or maybe they're not)?
viral orbit
We got a Star Sign theme.
● This one is Cancer.
● Aquarius.
● Capricorn and Leo respectively
● Altharion is a Fusion of Cancer and Capricorn.
● Gramel is Aquarius and Leo.
halcyon crane
So it is another Zodiac themed archetype?
viral orbit
viral orbit
So it is another Zodiac themed archetype?
Yes
halcyon crane
Eager to see more. While I like Constellar, their design are too uniformed
This one actually get creative with the design of each constellation
Tho I didn't expected Cancer to looks like priest tho
viral orbit
You should read the forced reading if the jp names.
E.g. Star Gunner Fymena (she apparently shoots water from her Aquarius jar) Basically pokemon's water gun.
halcyon crane
What's their fusion named after?
viral orbit
Star Claw Dragon Altharion
It's a claw dragon cuz it has claws, but also cuz it's fused with cancer (crab claw) as one as its tail
@halcyon crane
viral orbit
Is it yet another constellation?
No, it's just chimeras of 2 zodiacs basically
halcyon crane
I see
viral orbit
Star Palace Gramel
Probably a reference Dragon Palace Castle
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ryūgū-jō
@halcyon crane
viral orbit
It's basically a tower that is a spaceship with 2 Aquarius cannons and the face of leo (since it's a fusion with it)
dry field
● Aquarius.
I’m always disappointed when i see zodiac themed stuff and I see what they did for Aquarius …
Why couldn’t I have been a LEO
They get cooler stuff
viral orbit
@dry field wait for the Virgo lol, she's gonna be...
sage ocean
https://youtu.be/xD4jR7ncfjI?si=CENd7PizF5AcHi9b
arc five
-
lost media theme song of vrains english dub theme
wild siren
https://youtu.be/S5Lkgr3LYOg?si=MOydOrJ7v4Hsb8lK
Hey. I told you last time
this isn't the channel for this
Also... that's ai
long bison
Part of me thinks it's fake from the camera quality probably hiding the jank details.
The right eye there looks a bit bigger than the left for some reason.
But if it is real, what is this depicting?
Is she a doll clone of Lovely?
lean surge
The maids/butler ones are all dolls.
These are prob prototypes/earlier versions of Arias and co.
wild siren
yeah it's implied they're made of marble
long bison
So these people are technically not really people. Lovely is the only living person there. 
I guess that makes sense why Lovely wants Knight-chan to come by so much. She's the only other living person to interact with her.
inner quest
Is she a doll clone of Lovely?
I know someone who would go absolutely insane if it turned out they were dolls
primal spire
The right eye there looks a bit bigger than the left for some reason.
Thats the monocle no?
wild siren
I know someone who would go absolutely insane if it turned out they were dolls
well more like statues, but still
viral orbit
The maids/butler ones are all dolls.
Is thos a case of the "cursed princess trapped on the castle with only her toys, wating for the knight to save her"...
All of the other monsters are Doll Golems
inner quest
They killed sunny (in game)
The more art we get of the four I begin to imagine a world where the four live twins are all besties and collab/stream as vtubers
But have no idea of the other pairs secret identity
a[Lil-la rap]
fading yarrowBOT
a[Lil-la rap]
inner quest
Cause she does hang out with Luna if this not exactly live twin name card counts
halcyon crane
What if Labrynth is yuri case of the Beauty and the Beast, that explain the poltergeist, & a demon-like figure wishing someone to visit the castle (to break the curse?)
viral orbit
Her magic fire thing... looks like poplar tails
warm minnow
@foggy lotus There are scans on twitter from what my discord says for the new Magistus manga
its 2 days early thou so idk if its just scans or the entire thing is out
long bison
What is this ||ring they have on their child?||
warm minnow
||if you love it you better put a ring on it||
halcyon crane
Is this the same dude as Arc-V manga?
Idk he has a thing of ending manga with babies
tbh Arc-V anime also ended with baby
foggy lotus
Yep 
foggy lotus
The magistus and sky striker manga have been really tame homestly 
foggy lotus
X
halcyon crane
Honestly the fact that Master Duel now introduced canon Sky Striker lore that may contradicted the manga one, I got a feeling if they ever did Magistus one, it would be very different than the manga too
long bison
Even the anime/manga timeline split affects deck archetypes now lmao. 🤣
halcyon crane
If OCG story ever adapted to anime, bet MC gonna play something like Fiendsmith
warm minnow
https://x.com/MisterDuckyArt/status/1892345533236150690
Thanks!
white depot
Honestly the fact that Master Duel now introduced canon Sky Striker lore that ma...
Well we never got the Rilliona Xyz in the manga. Did we get Zoroa Synchro?
wild siren
Did the manga explain how tf Endymion got his wife?
warm minnow
No No and No!
The manga hasn't explained a lot
It's assumed sometime in the 100 year time skip Endymion got married.
<Omega Summon>
[Omega Summon]
fading yarrowBOT
[Omega Summon]
Normal Trap
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[Alpha Summon]
Normal Trap
warm minnow
Likely this event happens in the 100 year time skip as well, the flames imply Zoroa but we don't see him so it's just a guess
This has Rilliona XYZ though
wild siren
I forget how to get art
a[Alpha Summon]
fading yarrowBOT
a[Alpha Summon]
halcyon crane
Since the hidden not-yet-revealed servants holding what appear to be giant scissors, what are the chance she's gardener
viral orbit
Since the hidden not-yet-revealed servants holding what appear to be giant sciss...
Either a Gardner, Tailor, or Hairdresser
lean surge
@viral orbit Wrong channel
viral orbit
<@962953791475449886> Wrong channel
I hate threads
long bison
Hairdresser with those pair of scissors sound like hell to handle.
sacred vector
@lean surge probably annoying you
but uh
got some sources for the ainu stuff in rit beasts if you want
even if you probably have it already
lean surge
Post 'em away.
Always better to have stuff in one spot when someone needs to look it up.
sacred vector
Ainu words appearing in Rit Beasts:
Cannahawk - kanna カンナ - lit. 'upper/over', but in this case refers to kanna-kamuy カンナカムィ, 'the thunder kamuy'
Apelio - ape アペ or abe アベ - 'fire'
Pettlephin - pet ペㇳ - 'river'
Rampengu - ram ラㇺ - 'mind/soul'
Lara (In Japanese: Rera) - rera レラ - 'wind'
Pilica - pirika ピリカ - 'good'
Wen - wen ヱン - 'bad'
Kimunfalco - kim-un キㇺウン - 'in/to the mountains'
Reirautari - rera レラ + utara ウタラ or utari ウタリ - 'wind' and 'people, brothers, comrades'
Nochiudrago - nochiu ノチウ - 'stars'
It's possible there's more, I'm obviously not an expert
But that's what I got
@lean surge
lean surge
Reirautari in the Link which I said had two Ainu words was Reira - Wind and Utari - Bretheren.
sacred vector
i literally forgot reirautari existed
one sec
fixed @lean surge also added kimun who i totally blanked on
devout hearth
pilica wen just being good and bad is so funny
viral orbit
Has Viser Des equipped to its face...
degenerate circuit in the background
The fuck is going on here.... is bro a cyberdark...
lean surge
After 7 years we finally have, X-001.
Seems to be similar to Zeke, with Raye instead being at the center.
Tho, to note, it's a Link 1. I do wonder how they'll justify this as the ED is tight as is.
I talked about this before but a Link 1 that can copy all the other Link 1s could be cool, but things like Kagari and Kaina being on summon would be an issue.
On another note, this one is called Prototype Sky Striker Ace.
Maybe this was one of the experimental ones and was deemed too unstable/dangerous before they switched to the Raye sized mech suits.
Oh about the name, Amatsu would heavenly, tho considering the context it could be the more literal Sky here. Wonder why it isn't a Light tho. Maybe it can be summoned via Raye/Linkage (which tbf, only the Link2+ has some sort of restriction against that) and they don't want you to give you easy access to that bonus eff.
Just noticed but the mech has heels.
Kinda hard to tell because of the art, but I can't see what the arms are upto, are they connected to the guns or is it like Kagari where you have random weapons floating on you.
On that note, the more I look at it, the more Light it feels.
Wonder if this was designed a while back, but they instead made like Roze/Zeke or smthg. That would explain why they did the whole missing number pig bit for 7 years.
Ok, the right side is hard to tell if it's a huge fist or not, but the other 3 seem to match the core Link 1s. Shield from Shizuku, Sword from Kagari, the laser beam from Hayate. Tho, considering this is the prototype. This is a combination of the 4, but instead the 4 were based on this original mech, I think.
Adds fuel to my copies the eff of the other Links theory, tho, not having Kagari's on summon eff is sad.
Wait, I got it.
What if it's like Charles?
It can only be made with a Sky Striker Link 1 (this bit is not necessary), and if Link summoned using one it gains the original effs of the Link used to make it.
Hmmmmm, tho this doesn't bypass HOPTs, so not sure what the point would be.
Any other ideas of doing stuff like banishing on summon to gain the effs would still miss Kagari's on summon which I feel is the most important of all these effs.
Could go fuck it with balance. Can Special Summon with no mats from ED by banishing a Link-1 or maybe non-Dark Striker Link to gain its effs. Maybe need 3+ spells in grave to do it in the first place?
Tho, this being a Vjump promo isn't promising.
lean surge
For VBEX5
【Included Themes】
Sinful Spoils Story
Argostars
Maliss
Ryzeal
Ryu-Ge
Fiendsmith
P.U.N.K.
Evil★Twin
Eldlich
Dragonmaid
Orcust
Dragon Ruler
Nekroz
Fabled
Fire King, Atlantean & Mermail
Cyber Art (Cyber Style)
Cyber Art Underworld (Reverse Cyber Style)
A Bao A Qu, the Lightless Shadow
Wack they are doing Cydark stuff LORE. Kinda weird to see ingame LORE explanation of why Cyber Dragon cards became unwoke when we know it's just anime in actuality.
inner quest
Raye's VA was Harley in Suicide Squad isekai
Roze's is the weird Azuma sister from Chained Soldier
lean surge
After years of anticipation, we finally get the payoff of Raye using Roze's Sky Striker.
Oh ye, forget to mention, the Link 2's name is Zero. To go with Roze's.
Weirdly has 2k atk.
Also, it has corner arrows, which Raye has in all her forms, so do Camelia and Azalea. While the beeg mechas like Zeke, Temperace or Spectra have them on the cardinal directions.
Also, the Vjump promo which we don't have the eff for, which looks like a huge mech made from the 4 base Striker form (or those were dervied from this considering it's name is Prototype) is also a cardinal bottom arrow link.
Silver Hair Knight aesthetic is so good.
The name for the Spell comes from Leminscate and a pun on Gate. (which is where Raye gets her Striker mecha stuff from).
Which seems to be a mathematical terms for 8/infinity shaped curves.
Which somewhat resembles the two Striker hexagons we see in the art, maybe symbolizing this being Raye and Roze combining/joined together or whatever (even if its just Roze's Sky Striker).
Could find any direct links to WWI or aviation from these, so could just be a pun for Gate. Tho, it is similar to a Pylon 8s maneuver.
viral orbit
halcyon crane
OwO
viral orbit
So these can only manifest half of her each ... uh
halcyon crane
Man since Hu Li ritual sadly not as good as normal version I hope this one catches on
I want another good ritual
viral orbit
Man since Hu Li ritual sadly not as good as normal version I hope this one catch...
If this is even a ritual
It looks like a contact fusion
halcyon crane
Dang they change their main summon mid season
lean surge
It shares the name with the other Rits.
And I doubt Tactical try decks is where they start to give new mechanics.
My only worry is that it won't be 6 and they'll make it 9 or 12 for no reason, like they did with Arahime.
viral orbit
My only worry is that it won't be 6 and they'll make it 9 or 12 for no reason, l...
It's probably a 6
viral orbit
My only worry is that it won't be 6 and they'll make it 9 or 12 for no reason, l...
Arahime makes since, it's the level 6 ritual + the level 3 girl.
Also it isn't meant to be ritual summoned anyway
lean surge
Much better quality arts dropped.
Now, the 4 weapons are clear. Hayate cannon top left, Shizuku shield top right, Kagari sword bottom left, and Kaina claw bottom right.
Hayate and Kagari should be switched around, imo. Huge missed oppurtunity to not make them line up with the Link arrows of those Link 1s.
Silver Hair Knight is peak.
Also, I just noticed. The left side of her (our right) is highlighted with gold while her left side is black.
Wait, I just realized.
It's the fucking white and gold v blue and black color scheme.
The floating pauldron is so sick, man.
Also, the energy cape it has. No purpose, just auramaxxing.
viral orbit
Fish dragon maid
lean surge
Trying to reverse engineer who the fuck Sol Erysthion's original form is. Obv, it's not an existing card since we don't even have a name.
Looking for stat patterns in the other Azamina stuff.
Silvera and Rciela go from Caster to Illusion, keep the same level, go from LIGHT to DARK, keep same ATK but swap DEF for the funnies I guess.
While Morgana is DARK Caster Level 4 1500/2100 (Randomly Visas Heart statline for no reason) to a DARK Illusion Level 8 3000/2000.
So, OG Sol is any attribute (prob LIGHT or DARK) Caster who the fuck knows Level, ATK, DEF. 
Oh ye, another notable one is Elzette going Lv 2 LIGHT Caster 0/0 -> Same but Illusion. Doesn't becomes DARK like the others maybe to show she hasn't had her body/soul seperated.
Just realized Morrian is prob meant to Morgana, which leaves Sol the only one without an associated Sinful Spoil Soul form(S/T).
Insane that we have all these chars with well established cards of both body and soul, but there's also this one other guy who just shows up. For all we know, he's just a guy named Eric who got caught up in this mess and we don't even have any of his other forms.
Oh wait, his Sinful Spoil was eaten by Goblins' crazy beast in the last VBEX.
Poor dude.
Beast has the same ATK/DEF of 2700/0 and Rank 6, tho it being Fiend is prob just its own trait and says nothing on OG Ericwhatever.
viral orbit
So, OG Sol is any attribute (prob LIGHT or DARK) Caster who the fuck knows Level...
I don't think it's that simple
Note that that the azamina of Slivera and Reciela take from based on the Extra Deck version (white forest synchro) not the main deck version.
So i assume Morgana has a bigger from (be it Extra or Not)
And that from is fiend type
We saw it happen anyway with diabellstar becoming fiend type
lean surge
True, true.
viral orbit
I guess we getta wait for Morgana to get a bigger from
Be it a level 8 synchro or something
As for Sol, he can be anything
viral orbit
1 thing to note is the Sinful Spoils name
Why it has a different name from its origin witch
Morrian vs Morgana
Unless that's what Big Morgana is called
foggy lotus
Tweet just mentions something something forbidden magic to give themselves legs so they can scout out [Lemuria, the Forgotten City] because it surfaced and that's about it I think
fading yarrowBOT
Tweet just mentions something something forbidden magic to give themselves legs ...
Field Spell
foggy lotus
It's only temporary while they're checking out Lemuria
halcyon crane
At least they don't go Hans Anderson's Little Mermaid route where they have to kill someone to get their tail back
foggy lotus
Legs come at a "great cost"
It's just Little Mermaid
Looks like they found some good ass treasures in Lemuria
I guess I can do this one
Fuck me this is a continuation of the Fire Kings lore
aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
long bison
Also, what were they saying about Pacifis? I saw the field spell artwork in there too.
lean surge
-Having regained the upper hand, Poseidra split the bracelet into two parts, which also severed Abyssgaios in two. In that instant, Abyssgaios, who had most of his power taken from him, lost his memories and became Neptabyss.
This is the plot of what happened to the Nameless Namekian splitting into two, bundled with one half "reincarnating" as Piccolo Jr.
-Poseidra once more confronted Garunix Eternity. As the leaders of each force engaged each other in a fierce battle, their bracelets began to glow brightly in response to each other. Poseidra's body began to change before his very eyes, evolving into the three-headed Poseidra Abyss.
What the fuck do you mean, it just happened? Like no reason, just responded to each other and not the last time they had a conflict?
Oh, the FK one is a ring. I guess the braclets in question are the two halves of Abyssgaios' bracelet.
Tho, becoming three headed is a weird outcome.
~~Like I imagine one head is like Poseidra and one is Neptabyss/Abyssgaios. So, who's the third head? ~~
halcyon crane
Man this whole FK vs Merlantean lore makes my head go speen
wild siren
All that matters is that FK is based and fighting against colonization
viral orbit
I don't even know why the ugly sea dragon ppl.. that are just fishmen... want a fucking FIRE ISLAND
Are they dumb ?
wild siren
Wait
Fire King is based on Bali
Water associated white people colonizing
Is Merlantean supposed to be the Netherlands colonizing Indonesia 
(ignore the fact Merlantean is clearly Greek)
halcyon crane
jade iron
Tho, becoming three headed is a weird outcome.
~~Like I imagine one head is lik...
Sunlight, Twilight, and Abyss – named after the 5 3 oceanic zones
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So wait Azamina (the monster card) is literally Yubel
they basically "work the same lore wise".
Demon: Yubel.
Takes over body: Yubel.
Thorny plants: yubel.
Corrupting others: yubel.
A twisted version of something good: yubel.
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I've seen that few recent deck do be having some of similar gimmick as Yubel
Most prominently Mikanko with the whole mirroring damage back at opponent
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It's a reptile, so probably not
wild siren
It's a reptile, so probably not
reptile
Look inside
Steampunk Miku
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I'm aware
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But beyond that and a porcelain-like body, this shares functionally nothing with Lee
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And we know Lee got erased
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And we know Lee got erased
Explain this then
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What about it?
lean surge
I deffo see it.
The typing is the only thing that's throwing me off.
Also, the name is Greek similar to Galatea.
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Is it?
lean surge
Just saw the HQ art, and her right side has a line too, unless it's meant to be similar to her OG forms' tats, which adds in the not connected side.
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I'd be surprised if its meant to be Greek, the mask on her right arm has norse runes
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The art gives me Ragnaraika vibes, idk why.
Maybe the doc ock style chains sprouting out of her...what exactly are they coming out of? 
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I'd be surprised if its meant to be Greek, the mask on her right arm has norse r...
Her name is double greak Note: ζηλοφθονία (Zilofthonía) is Greek for Jealousy or Envy.
And a Gorgon is a Greak monster that turns things to stone aka statues... while Galatea is a Statue turning human by the power of love.
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Oh ye, Moon brought up on main that the protection eff is reversed from Galatea's (or the OG Orcusts Links in general).
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I'm a bit confused where the Greek is coming from tho
Far as I can see its name just means beautiful magnetic machine?
Or something like that
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Oh ye, Moon brought up on main that the protection eff is reversed from Galatea'...
The idea again is also that of crusadia but with the added effect of Orcustrion's negate
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Far as I can see its name just means beautiful magnetic machine?
That's the forced reading
But the name is meant to be actually pronounced simply Zilofthonia Gorgon
Zilofthonia might be a pun on Xylophonia... the music instrument
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Speaking of weird runes
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Not a rune, actually
I think anyway
Wasnt it musical notation?
Plus the runes on the mask are (as far as I can tell) elder Futhark, which didn have the asterisk
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Yeah thats younger futhark
Fewer and different letters, came about 900 years later
Doesnt have the first character on the mask though
Yeah I cant translate this to something that makes sense to me
Its Duin or Iguin
But those mean nothing
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@foggy lotus you got scans of the orcust lore ?
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I can do orcust tomorrow
I was about to say just skip over the images and tell me if there is anything about her
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@foggy lotus https://b23.tv/XUAKnEX
foggy lotus
BLESS
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TIL that Ally Salvo is made from Flamvell stuff. Was this in their Duel Terminal lore books?
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Completely zoned out on the new cards.
Can anyone break down on what they think current Medius LORE is.
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Seems to be another future vision, that has been changed going by the other cards, and dragonkin artmage didn't actual turn into/get a dragon form card.
The artifact in his hand is Doomdurg but it's Red instead of Green. Medias takes it and prevents this future and becomes the Xyz instead.
Pink hair girl seems to have purified Doomdurg to be Red.
Oh, going by the wing shape, the DoomZ power patron might be same as Doomdurg.
So, it goes Fusion Medias v the Level 4s, beats them but depowers, DoomZ XII combines with the mechs on his art to becomes his Xyz form, not sure where the power patron Xyz fits, he pulls out Doomdurg, somehow gets it snatched and purified by pink girl, dragon guy uses it to become a dragon, this future is prevented and Medias becomes and Xyz instead and the two of the go to attack DoomZ XII Xyz.
All the DoomZ's also have quite similar horns to the Dragon guy. I wonder if they are from the same race and they may have personal beef, hence the focus on him this episode + Doomdurg working on him to Draconize him.
Pinkgirl isn't purifying Doomdurg, I mistook the triple spike on the bottom of her guitar to be doomdurg.
Hmmmmm.
I wonder if it's Doomdurg and Red doomdurg are different artifacts and each dragonkin has one, or important people of their race do, which helps transform/empower them.
Oh, Dragonguy also seems to stolen the gauntlet and jet boots from the Doom Level 4s in the final confrontation v Doom 12 Xyz.
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All the DoomZ's also have quite similar horns to the Dragon guy. I wonder if the...
It wouldn't be called lineage, if they were not the same race. Other than the fact these are cybernetically enhanced
lean surge
Chaplain seems to be Ashiyan's public title which makes sense, Dogma never struck me as the type who'd just have public known assassin squad.
Also, this deffo ties with the Dogma support in DOOD, which means these cards are gonna be pre Despia. Maybe even pre Albaz fall, but most likely during.
My theory on the SD still is it's gonna be Dogma support, since the name seems to indicate it will be Albaz and original Ecclesia, even tho most people think it'll be Branded support. It could be SwoSo Ecclesia, but I don't see it being a SwoSo deck and Branded doesn't want that Ecclesia.
So, the SD could follow up on this set's Dogma and during/just after the squirmish with Tribs.
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https://cdn.ygorganization.com/2025/07/JP-OP.png
I assume it's just general mixed support
Like mentions albaz, and supports both dogmatika and despia
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https://cdn.ygorganization.com/2025/07/JP-OP.png
1 thing to note, this seems to be post main story.
Cuz his long hair is not covred
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Already?! oh god I wasn't expecting it till the weekend
lean surge
It has been a 1000 years but we finally have more Draco LORE.
Somehow, Vector's soul/essence/memories or vibes or whatevs have influenced both Master Peace and Marianne. He also has the staff from Amorphous Persona.
Master Peace's new eff is clearly a combination of his True Dracoslayer form's negate (a bit toned down), but the float is from Amorphactor Pain.
Marianne is clearly more evil looking. Tho, I have 0 idea on what's her deal is with the summon to opp's field to banish top 4 is. Like it doesn't synergize with True Draco or Dracoverlords or even somehow tie in with VFD or smth, I'm super lost on her.
I feel like there's some reason in her stats of 1800/1400 but I don't know what.
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Somehow, Dracolore returned
lean surge
Kinda hard to place this in the timeline.
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Like even other lore has ending so to speak
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This is deffo post True Draco pend wave, but maybe they all beat VFD but Master Peace and Marianne are corrupted by Vector somehow?
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And now maybe it's Crystron/Zoo/MFoes and baby True Dracoslayer pends v MP and Marianne.
Wait, a fucking minute. This was the perfect moment to give us the Dreiath Truedracoverlord pend. And they just didn't.
Did they forget there's a 4th baby True Draco.
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The glowing symbol on original Mariamne seems to be made out of twisted flesh on the new card
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https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1126361732542107678/1396110987245129779...
Also Live Ferrijitt Reaction
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The symbol went from the closed version on Marianne/MP's shield to the reversed one on VFD.
Maybe VFD's death somehow triggered the return of Vector's essense/corruption of Marianne?
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She also has similar eyes in her body to VFD
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New Master Piece's tail is a different colour
Maybe to represent a change in which half is in control?
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