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#Yugioh Lore Discussion
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a[Return from a Different Dimension]
lean surge
Can't forget the fusion summoning ones connecting to newest Tearlament, King of the Swamp.
halcyon crane
Yeah, I've seen it as gateway to multidimensional nature of YGO
lean surge
I just noticed.
fading yarrowBOT
a[Big Cattle Drive]
halcyon crane
Behemoth bullied far more often than necessary 
lean surge
Since, some Blackwings connect to rest of the Signer Dragons and weird anime bullshit.
halcyon crane
BW friggin connect to Naturia of all archetype
jade iron
It's not Exterio
lean surge
a[Black Return]
jade iron
It's uuuh
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a[Black Return]
lean surge
Barkion.
halcyon crane
the tree dragon
lean surge
But wild, this just fucks with so many lines.
jade iron
I think there's a layer of depiction where it's in the card game
then a layer where it's in the anime
then a layer of lore
then a layer of goblins enjoying the lore, but also being a part of the lore
halcyon crane
Honestly in Black Return one case, I assume it's unrelated to lore and they don't actually connected
I mean, it still early days for DT
lean surge
Gotta pretend that the in universe show that the DT dolls are promoting had a non-canon crossover with the Blackwings show.
jade iron
a[Nitwit Outwit]
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a[Nitwit Outwit]
jade iron
Shien gets destroyed by Ojama
halcyon crane
I believe the only archetype we know is from a series is Geargia
jade iron
Or at least Gear Gigant X fucking destroys a scrap for some reason
halcyon crane
This feels like some Megaman stuff
Discarded robots took revenge against others
I believe they even has in-universe Dr. Wahwee
halcyon crane
[Astral's memories]
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[Astral's memories]
jade iron
[Astral's memories]
The Number monsters in the anime were Astral's memories
halcyon crane
Ah
jade iron
a[freezing point]
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a[freezing point]
halcyon crane
Right, how could I forgor
jade iron
ah, anime only
halcyon crane
Oh, okay, so non-canon from Konami perspective
jade iron
also present is Sword Breaker
Who fights Gagagigo the Risen in Overlay Capture
So DT connects to Gagagigo, again
halcyon crane
DT connects to Gagagigo is not the weirdest idea
jade iron
The problem is Gagagigo connects to everything else
halcyon crane
Since they implied the whole charmer thing that's I'm not sure if it's from Konami or it's just fan speculation
Gagagigo is key to all of this
You deleted its file from the game, and MD would cease to function
hollow wraith
doesn't gagagigo also connect to dt via the water charmer
since he was her familiar as a child
halcyon crane
Yeah we still havent seen Eria, Wynn, or any other charmer in DT universe
Which makes me wonder if Ariel & Winda truly has sibling connection to charmers, or are they just like, Arc-V version of same character
Hmm, some Arc-V duelists do play with DT archetypes...
jade iron
doesn't gagagigo also connect to dt via the water charmer
Unless I've missed something, I don't think Eria technically connects to DT
hollow wraith
isn't eria related to ariel
jade iron
Name similarity only, I think
But I'm not up to date with card arts, so they might be hanging out in one
halcyon crane
Yeah my problem is, there's not a single card featuring Wynn or Eria with their supposedly respective DT tribes
Not even as indirect connection
Petit dragon doesn't looks remotely similar to any of Gusto familiars
Not sure about Gagagigo tho
glass blaze
[Premature Return]
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[Premature Return]
glass blaze
a[premature return]
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a[premature return]
glass blaze
Soooo everything just has the same universe
Most likely
Because there's way too many cameos to justify the anime and DT existing with a base world
WHEN THERE IS A CONTRADICTION DUE TO A PLUSH
jade iron
Soooo everything just has the same universe
To make things more confusing, there's also timeline fuckery going on
The Lightray, Metaphys, etc are all alt-timeline variants
Daedalus is dead, but also a Metaphys and a Lightray
glass blaze
Soooo this just proves they don't plan an universe
jade iron
The LV Monsters are a good example of this, as are all the Dai Grepher forms
jade iron
Dai Grepher also time travels iirc
Or at least dimension hops
Blue-Eyes has anime canon & also an independent Eyes of Blue canon
Maiden with Eyes of Blue is anime iirc
Then there's the weird anime stuff that also makes sense in canon
Like BLS/Gaia both being proficient at dragon riding
Gaia then has a horse race against his timeline variants, including 2 from presumably the same timeline
halcyon crane
He's practitong for Gold Pride
glass blaze
Practitong
glass blaze
Ok so because of the talk from earlier
Can we just say that the dimensions are probably able to cross-over?
And due to that fact some people stand out and we get merch of them?
jade iron
Can we just say that the dimensions are probably able to cross-over?
There's no rules and everything is made up
glass blaze
There's no rules and everything is made up
I CAN SHIP TERALAMENTS WITH SCRAPS
pseudo urchin
i just realised, the artwork for spright sprind has him steping an a circle of those purple portal things.
primal spire
Is there a place where you're uploading all the chapters?
At this point I think I've missed a couple and might just wait for it to end to bingeread ngl
foggy lotus
Lemme check how far it's been typeset
I upload the raws etc. to a mega because some dude's been typesetting it
I dunno how far he's gotten
Sick, he's still been typesetting them, bless
foggy lotus
I honestly don't know how long they intend to run this for
hollow wraith
i really hope a translator picks up ocg structures again
the guy who said he was gonna do it hasn't translated a chapter in months now
halcyon crane
Damn OCG manga also has Albazlore cards?
Is that duelist designed after Argyro system
hollow wraith
nah the character has been around since way before albaz lore started
he first appeared in a game on the 3ds that came out in like 2016
and has been a major character in ocg structures since the start of the manga
his gimmick is that he uses actual meta decks
halcyon crane
How many meta players in the manga?
I would like to be 2 just for competing sake, regardless of who has better deck
foggy lotus
I did get messaged about translating OCG Structures but I'd also need to kind of read it first uuuugh 
Think I only made about a dozen chapters in or something
earnest snow
Tendo being a fucking metaslave as usual
long bison
Currr-iiinge. He truly is one of the Maxx "C"s of all time. :^)
Now we wait for Tearlaments
earnest snow
Do exosisters have lore
silver harbor
Not really
long bison
The bare minimum.
We just know they're fighting spirits lmao.
And something something, they gotta pair up so they won't give into despair or something.
lean surge
Long ago, demons were exterminated by angels or smthg. But they aren't fully gone and come back by possessing living creatures. You can eliminate them by knowing their True Name (Referenced by their Prohibition like card) or destroying them with force, hence the transformations to beat them and what not.
Elis is the current leader of their faction but it's also said she once had an "older sister" who she shared vows with, currently MIA after a battle. In quotes, since it's most likely not actual sister and more figurative describing the sisters pairing up.
This is obv, talking about Martha. Which would have been cool foreshadowing if not for the fact they spoiled the Exo cards like a week before the book dropped.
Oh ye, the necklaces they have do transform them/give weapons by the power of prayers or whatever and the blue stuff around the Xyz's body and weapons is indeed Holy Water.
They have some charm to prevent themselves from being possessed. Prevailing theory is Martha is being possessed by an evil spirit after said battle and thus MIA. My theory is she's the one on the new Trap revealed alongside her.
earnest snow
Wait
MIA?
primal spire
Missing In Action
earnest snow
primal spire
Meaning theyre not accounted for, but their death isnt confirmed either
halcyon crane
The amount of card went MIA is unnoticeable
jade iron
Shurit, Lara
halcyon crane
Phlogis also
young lynx
Kashtira Papiyas is so much of a better name to a card than theosis
"Māra Pāpīyas (マーラ・パーピーヤス, Māra pāpīyasu), better known by his Divine Name Hajun (波旬, Hajun), demon lord of the sixth heaven"
Sixth World Destruction Parasois
So Ariseheart is basically Hajun
and Manadome is buddha
glass blaze
Alright, bit of a question as far as Nordic/Aesir monsters go
What exactly Are the Nordic Alfar supposed to be based on?
A lot of them just look... bizzare, to say the least, and not really understandable like the Ascendant or Beasts
jade iron
What exactly *Are* the Nordic Alfar supposed to be based on?
You're not gonna believe this, but the Norse word for Elf is Alfar
jade iron
Mara is based on the same entity we get the word "Nightmare" from
glass blaze
Ahhhh
jade iron
Alviss is apparently the name of a specific dwarf related to Thor
glass blaze
...That's pretty weird, being a kind of monster needed to Synchro Summon Loki
jade iron
jade iron
You'll probably be familiar with Alfheim if you've played the Botania Mod
glass blaze
Yeaaa, Elf Home, I guess what they call it
Still, I do wish there was just, more to Nordics than "Use the only few good tuners and/or Gullveig to summon gods, and sit on it cause you got nothing else going on"
There genuinely could be more cool Synchro monsters, like say, Surtr, a Fire Giant destined to cleanse the world at the peak of Ragnarok.
...But I guess if any of us wanted some better ways to make a deck around Norse Myth, we have Generaider.
jade iron
Also Hraesvelgr is a Evilswarm
glass blaze
Yeee
P cool how a lot of Evilswarm monsters have these kinds of names
Hraesvelgr if I recall is a two-headed eagle of sorts, yeah?
jade iron
Don't know about it being two-headed
glass blaze
Ah
jade iron
There's an eagle in Norse myth that has a hawk atop it
Which could be interpreted as 2 heads
But the eagle is unnamed
glass blaze
Ahh, gotcha
Interesting how it seems to have a serious grudge against Nidhoggr, all cause a friggin' squirrel ended up pitting the two against each other
wide plume
To be fair Nidhogg is devouring the basis for all reality.
halcyon crane
Hraesvelgr is the lil hawk on big eagle yeah
It's funny dynamic to have this seemingly big presence only to realize the one with name is the small thing on their head
jade iron
Hraesvelgr is the lil hawk on big eagle yeah
That's not Hraesvelgr
jade iron
Hraesvelgr is the lil hawk on big eagle yeah
that's Vedrfolnir
primal spire
Hraesvelgr is a giant who is eagle-shaped
And by "giant" I mean a ... Jötunn I believe?
halcyon crane
Ah I mixed up the two
jade iron
Hraesvelgr is the source of all wind, apparently
glass blaze
Innnnteresting
Yeah, the reason for Nidhogg and this unnamed eagle fucking up reality was mostly because this squirrel, Ratatoskr or something another ends up relaying insults between the two
So, Nidhogg is eating the roots to collapse that tree the eagle is on, and the eagle keeps dropping branches from Yggdrasil so it can eventually hit the dragon.
...Norse Mythology is wild
There's much stranger stuff too, like how the world as a whole really is just the giant corpse of Ymir, apparently Fenrir's jaws are so damn huge that the bottom half scars the ground and the upper jaw pushes up against the sky itself, and how Fenrir's offspring are both trying to devour the sun and moon itself
And of course, just, how Slepnir came to be
young lynx
What about the watchman of the apocalypse
white depot
So the eyeball powering the ship in The Boundless Open is it’s own character and it’s one of the deceased maidens?
silver harbor
Yes
white depot
I guess coming back as an eyeball is better than being dead
primal spire
Do we have translations already?
white depot
No
lean surge
LORE covered in VBEX3
Branded
Visas=Passport
Labyrnth
Vaylantz
Runick and Generaider
Purrely
Mikanko
Vernusylph
Ninja
R-Ace
Libromancer
Amazement
Live Twin (Lil-la-rap)
Gunkan Suship
Dragonmaid (Sweetroom Maid)
Ultimate Slayer
Kurikara
silver harbor
It just depends on how long we wait for it
devout hearth
since vb3 is releasing this weekend, maybe the story just continues in DUNE
primal spire
Btw do we have the scans of the VBEX yet?
hollow wraith
i don't think so
lean surge
Book's not out yet.
Someone does seem to have grabbed a screenshot for the above text, tho.
lean surge
stone prism
Please Swordsoul rise to greatness again
primal spire
I thought it wasnt out yet
foggy lotus
God these card names
Ooooooooooh fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuck
Fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuck
IS THAT A FUCKING DARK SOULS REFERENCE
CASUAL WILLIAM BLAME REFERENCE
primal spire
Oh thats what Golgonda is based on?
foggy lotus
IT'S
ISEKAI
OKAY SO WE'RE GETTING BACKSTORIES ON EVERYTHING
WOW
GOLGONDA IS
WELL
YOU'LL SEE
HOLY
devout hearth
foggy lotus
Wow that makes
Supreme Sovereign Serpent of Golgonda
I'm
Pretty sure the serpent is called Golgonda
And the desert probably named after him?
silver harbor
Ye
foggy lotus
Not yet but David posted a JP dude talking about the Albaz lore
foggy lotus
As quoted from the tweet
Let me summarise VBEX3's Albaz lore in my own way:
-Since Aluber's purpose was to retrieve Albaz's power and the red crystal formed from the 666 saints, he doesn't have any particular inclinations towards Quem or the saints themselves.
-Fleurdelis only took control of the body as Luluwalilith for the duration of the battle, after which Quem took it.
-On the other side of the Hole is a world that was destroyed long ago. The four Bystials are hollow remnants of former kings, and only Maximus survived. After he came to this world, he spent many years preparing to manifest the god from his old home world.
-Alba Los is a weapon from the destroyed world and Dogmatika Nexus was modelled after it.
-The ship Argyro System was on was a relic from the other world, though Aluber referred to it as "Fallen of Argyros" and was likely part of the capital city of Golgonooza.
-Supreme Sovereign Serpent of Golgonda was originally the grand duke of the Swordsouls, but due to a conflict long ago was driven out by Chengying. Longyuan was also his ally, and was the reason why he deceived and drove a rift amidst the Swordsouls.
Yeah this is all based on one dude talking about what he read
So yes Aluber just came to get his shit and fucked off back home
devout hearth
...so quem is in fleur's body?
primal spire
... there was no Bystal Maximus?
devout hearth
can't say that's what i was expecting
foggy lotus
So sounds like Quem took Fleur's body at the end
And Maximus was one of the survivors from the other world
primal spire
Bystial Los being a weapon makes sense ig
foggy lotus
So Chengying kicked him out
devout hearth
so max is confirmed british?
hollow wraith
aluber is fallen of argyros
???????????????????????????????????????????
i thought the fallen of argyros was the sprights
primal spire
... yeah wait that part makes no sense
Aluber is Bysstial Aluber, not Fallen of Argyroz
lean surge
so Aluber can be said to be the "Fallen of Argyros"
foggy lotus
Wait
I might've fucked the particles on that
That one in general is just
Kind of confusing without context
・アルギロシステムを積んだ船は異世界の遺物だが、アルベルが言及している者がアルギロスの落胤ならば、都市ゴルゴヌーザの一部らしい
If you want to run this yourself through a translator or something
lean surge
Why did we get Quem as her own card if she's still inside Fleur's body?
foggy lotus
OH
primal spire
Thats why Id wait for scans personally
lean surge
Aluber is referring to.
foggy lotus
There
Unfucked it
-The ship Argyro System was on was a relic from the other world, though Aluber referred to it as "Fallen of Argyros" and was likely part of the capital city of Golgonooza.
Aluber called Argyro System the "Fallen of Argyros"
Which makes
lean surge
It's the fucking ship???
lean surge
The system is Argyros, tho?
fading yarrowBOT
[argyro system]
foggy lotus
"Argyro"
This specifically says "Argyros"
Though I can't account for if the dude misspelt or something
primal spire
Its Discolosseum?
primal spire
... this is gonna take forever for us to get the full lore, isnt it?
We didnt get WL lore for months
lean surge
Are Bystials the remnants of the kings? Or their offsprings'? Because the latter is what I got from tl?
foggy lotus
Remnants of the kings
lean surge
foggy lotus
"a shadow of their former selves" is another way to put it
lean surge
For the Fallen of Argyros line. Really doesn't make sense for it to be the Argyro system, tbh.
foggy lotus
Yeah I dunno that's honestly the most iffy one for me or I'm just potato and misreading it
Which wouldn't be the first time
primal spire
The whole "world beyond the hole was destroyed" part confuses me
Where the fuck did Albaz and Aluber come from them?
foggy lotus
The remains of it I guess
primal spire
Or is it in the sense of
lean surge
・The ship carrying the Argyro system is a relic from another world, but if the person Albel is referring to is the illegitimate descendant of Argyros, it seems to be part of the city of Gorgonusa.
lean surge
foggy lotus
I called it "Fallen of Argyros" because it's exactly how Fallen of Albaz was localised
"Ruin" is perhaps a better word
Rather than "destroyed"
primal spire
... ok so this is just Blake meets Kiseki
foggy lotus
Who
lean surge
Consider the part about the Kings, wonder if Albaz/Aluber are the Prince (now technically King) and his shadow. Not sure which is which. And Aluber is taking back his rightful throne or usurping it from Albaz or smthg.
foggy lotus
That was my headcanon
foggy lotus
That Albaz/Aluber were twin brothers or something and Aluber just wanted to take what was "rightfully" his
Oooh trails of, right
primal spire
Mostly the hole being an equivalent of "the outside"
If its a collapse of the world across the hole, that also fits in with the great cataclysm and the loss of the ancient zemurian civilisation
primal spire
... which would make Bysstials the Sept-Terrions?
lean surge
My theory about Maximus being the dad went poof.
primal spire
Or is it Zoa itself
celest storm
maximus is just a fanboy lul
foggy lotus
LITERALLY
lean surge
Maximus was the grand priest there too apparently.
foggy lotus
Yeah
lean surge
And his goal was literally most JRPG shit of revive my god.
foggy lotus
primal spire
He's the villain from Trails in the Sky
lean surge
Tho, here it's more Bring God to my current dimension.
celest storm
golgonda being a swordsoul makes 0 sense btw
primal spire
The god still being around ... was zoa the one that destroyed the Hole?
Yeah wait
Thats a Reptile
Not a Wyrm
celest storm
like sure, even if it was a wyrm
they just don't share anything together
just feels like a shove in because of what happens with long yuan
devout hearth
what eating holes for decades does to a mf
primal spire
Could be corruption yeah
celest storm
btw did they mention how far the visas lore goes up to
foggy lotus
"Grand Duke" is literal too
But yeah I don't get how the giant snake used to be the leader of the swordsoul
primal spire
Anyway, gotta go to sleep, ping me if we get full translations ig
foggy lotus
God I can't fucking wait for scans this has only made me more curious
Yee
And I dunno I haven't actually looked that hard for lore spoilers
celest storm
yeah, should be better than the other VBEXs
foggy lotus
I've only seen what David's posted
primal spire
But yeah, if we get full TL
Ping me
At this point Im the only resident lore guy left
lean surge
Does anyone have that link about William Blake talking about the 4 Kings of England or whatever.
primal spire
Dont believe that exists?
foggy lotus
I think I posted a wikipedia link earlier to something like that
primal spire
Thats the fourth-fold London or smthg like that
silver harbor
Rip Fleur
primal spire
She is still in there
Could be brought back
... random thought, the swords the Swordsoul use are gonna be from the Hole as well arent they
Every other summoning method is from the hole
So synchro probably is too
silver harbor
It’s possible but I imagine Quem won’t be eager to give up her new body
I could see the Icejades also being refugees from the hole
lean surge
The Swords are made from the Icejade's dead bodies.
Icejade peeps give them weapon in return for protection.
lean surge
Nothing indicates they are from the Hole, tho.
Only known things from the Hole is TetraNexus and Argyros system.
And Albaz, ofc. Then Aluber and some Despia/Bystial stuff.
On that note tho, is making Nexus a replica a retcon?
Or is the Replica from the other world too?
primal spire
Well, every summoning method besides synchro draws its power from the hole
Dogmatikas stigmata, springans and Tri from Argyros, despia and branded directly
lean surge
Do you count Trib Links as powered by the Hole?
primal spire
Id say so?
lean surge
Feel like the anti miracle weapons are a small part of them.
primal spire
Their weapons are, after all
Itd also explain why Sprights have link and XYZ
... also the icejade field spell is Enion
lean surge
Doesn't quite gel with Dogma's initial anti ED thing, imo. If their whole shtick was kill anything that used the ED if all things that use ED also came from the Hole.
And Icejade and Therion have no ED mechanic to them.
silver harbor
Icejade have synchro
lean surge
Everything is a Blake thing. And 2 of the major players who's connected to their half of the cast are from the Hole. I think that's more of a reason rather than everything being Hole related.
primal spire
I get the feeling Alba Zoa destroyed the hole
lean surge
True, but that's post stealing from Long Yuan.
primal spire
Would explain the anti-ED thing
lean surge
I doubt it.
Aluber is in the Hole dimension or whatever by the end.
Or do you mean the old Kingdom?
primal spire
And I don't think we have anything thats Blake related thats not from the hole
Ye, the kingdom(s)
primal spire
Non-stigma dogmatika ig
lean surge
Because Dogma/Argyro are so integral to the plot, they are everywhere.
Dogma is Hole related. Nexus gave them their powers.
Which Dogma doesn't have a Stigma?
primal spire
Still, Enion being an emanation of one of the Zoas
I suspect icejades are from the hole
lean surge
Feel like if that were the case, it'd be mentioned in the book and the highlights tweets above. X archetype is all from the Hole similar to Bystials is kinda big news to put to the side.
primal spire
I mean the tweets are very abridged
Wouldn't surprise me if that was left out
Hell, Golgonda also seems to be connected to Golgonooza
long bison
So what I'm seeing on Reddit...the pool of souls are not really inhabiting a body, but just a shapeless mass that forms bodies. Fleur's body is probably buried or something.
lean surge
Post the link.
lean surge
After Ecclesia was separated from the souls of the other saints, these souls took the form of Luluwalilith, Dogamtika’s strongest knight, in order to use her power and get Ecclesia back. During the battle however, the soul of Fleurdelis managed to awaken and take control for enough time to slay Bystial Dis Pater, before sinking back into the mass of souls, after which they took the form of Guiding Quem, The Virtuous.
• Aluber's objective was to obtain Albaz's power and the mysterious red crystal from the saints. He has no interest in Quem or the saints themselves.
• The world on the other side of the Hole used to have civilazation, but it was destroyed. The abyssal beasts (Bystial) are the fallen forms of the kings who used to rule the other side. Maximus was also a former resident, which is why he wanted to summon the god from beyond the Hole.
• Alba Los is a weapon from the ruined civilization, and Dogmatika Nexus was made in imitation.
• The ship containing the Argyro System also came from the other world, being a portion of the city called Golgonooza.
• The Serpent of Golgonda used to be a member of the Swordsouls, but he was exiled by Chengying a long time ago. Longyuan was secretly allies with him, so that's why he betrayed the Swordsouls.
silver harbor
Honestly the golgonda serpent formerly being a swordsoul is probably the most uh
Out of left field motivation idea
lean surge
lean surge
Honestly the golgonda serpent formerly being a swordsoul is probably the most uh...
Kinda explains the random fusion of Long Yuan and the Snek.
silver harbor
I guess yeah
halcyon crane
Or I guess that's just what Swordsoul becomes when corrupted by the hole
And Long Yuan slowly transition into one
zealous berry
Honestly the golgonda serpent formerly being a swordsoul is probably the most uh...
Probably was a animal member like chunjin then was corrupted by the abyss and cause off this was exiled
Doesnt sound that illogical
lean surge
There are stories of Dragons being corrupted/falling to become Snakes. So, maybe it was a proper Dragon Wyrm before and it became a Reptile after becoming outcast.
long bison
So uhh...Longyuan didn't fuse with the Serpent of Golgonda? Did he just morph into that from the Hole's power?
lean surge
lean surge
So uhh...Longyuan didn't fuse with the Serpent of Golgonda? Did he just morph in...
I don't see where it says that. All we know for now is that the two of them used to be allies. If anything makes it more likely for it be a fusion after Long Yuan went fully evil Hole mode and fused with his friend's corpse.
lean surge
@old geyser
According to what I saw, apparently Reich and Reino Hearts was the only thing stopping Rise from invading, when Visas and Kitkallos killed them, Rise took the chance to invade the Worlds. No idea if it's true but it would be relatively interesting to see that Visas' actions actually had negative repercutions to the Planets.
The plot from the VBEX3 blurb says Visas is literally a newborn at that point, I doubt he would've actually listened, this assuming Visas isn't naturally inclined towards being a asshole like the others were.
Be Born
Discover the infinite universes
Show up as a meteor from the sky
Let Wolf Lord transform into his most powerful form
Beat him in one punch
Make him his personal Navi
Leaves
Arktos XII - Chronochasm Vaylantz is part of the third faction that controls time and space of which there will be 12 more units. Find the details in the next issue!
Wait, what?
No shot. We are getting 12 more Vaylantz cards.
[Therion Alessia]
fading yarrowBOT
[Therion Alessia]
Level: 8
[ Reptile / Effect ]
ATK 2100 / DEF 2500
lean surge
Alasia was banned from the arena for being too violent, every time she won she would add a piece of the opponent's body to herself. Her power surpasses Irregular.
celest storm
> Arktos XII - Chronochasm Vaylantz is part of the third faction that controls t...
It’s so close to being playable bro
Telling you, make a consistency field and the deck is going places
stone prism
> serpent was the swordsoul duke
My mind is blown....
Also poor Fleur, but that also means there's a chance to save her too.
silver harbor
That’s rad as hell
stone prism
golgonda being a swordsoul makes 0 sense btw
And yet with this info Longyuan being able to fuse/synch with it does...
silver harbor
Can’t wait for proper scans of it
muted anchor
> Arktos XII - Chronochasm Vaylantz is part of the third faction that controls t...
the green unit is real
lean surge
no, fleur only has temporary control during the battle then it becomes quem
also aluber's goal is to recover albaz's power and to make/collect red crystals from the saints. he feels nothing for her
the other side of the hole is a destroyed world. druiswurm, magnamhut, saronir, and baldrake are the descendants of kings from that world and lubellion is the supreme priest
alba los is from another destroyed world, dogmatika nexus is a copy of it
therion discolosseum is from another destroyed world
golgonda was originally part of chengying but was banished, longyuan was the same which is why he split his swords to hide
This comment is talking about these being seperate worlds instead of a singular world the Hole connects to. And Snek is part of Chengying not just an ally. Or maybe it's just mistaken google tl?
celest storm
And yet with this info Longyuan being able to fuse/synch with it does...
It doesn’t because fusing is literally the entire point of this lore lol
Golgonda and long yuan had nothing in common or relevancy in lore til PHHY
Losing to Albaz does that to a person I guess
stone prism
Rip Fleur
It's just like when Ecclesia became Cartesia she was still in there Quem is just being Body Moocher.
Just have to kick her out of Fleur and tell her to get a job and get her own place.
silver harbor
It’s closer to almost every saint except ecclesia and the one that’s an orb is in fleur’s body now
lean surge
Ok, the above is definitely google tl. Ignore that.
Also Golgonda has Grand Duke in its name in jp.
Which is shared with the Swordsoul Synchros, iirc.
Ye, we got that as Sovereign.
Supreme Sovereign Serpent Golgonda.
Supreme Sovereign - Chengying
Sinister Sovereign - Longyuan
celest storm
Ah I see, nvr then
stone prism
After Ecclesia was separated from the souls of the other saints, these souls too...
So it's possible all these souls can be released. It's just that Fleur is probably the only one who might be able to have a body.
celest storm
Did the debate finally come to an end btw
celest storm
About the dogma ritual being dis pater
lean surge
Sadly, no.
There's one guy who tled it as both are the same, and another as two beings.
Either one became the other or ordered the other. Gotta wait for a better tl/scans.
lean surge
So it's possible all these souls can be released. It's just that Fleur is probab...
They are not. Currently all the Souls are moving in the form of Quem.
celest storm
Well we at least know Maximus isn’t zoa right
silver harbor
Are we finally getting confirmation about Miss Knight being the correct thing
lean surge
Besides 337 or some number which is with Albaz gang.
Maximus is Zoa.
That's for sure. We don't have confirmation that Zoa is Dis Pater.
Tho, it's very likely, another tl about Zoa going mad with power and transofrmed to Dis Pater by consuming the Bystials popped.
Recommended Striker list has 3 HAMP. 
silver harbor
I can’t wait for proper scans of the luluwail concept art
silver harbor
Lets goooo
lean surge
Swordsoul Doggo lives in bottom left.
Tribs hugging in bottom right.
Adin lost an eye possibly in even more bottom left?
long bison
Both the Golden Sword souls live?
At least, that's what it looks like on the bottom left as I think it's those two on top of Swordsoul doggo
devout hearth
fall through a hole into another world
create a religion around your old god
kill 666 saints to power the ritual
summon the big fucking superweaponit gets blown up in like 2 minutes by some furry and a robot
celest storm
> fall through a hole into another world
> create a religion around your old god...
Alba los being a weapons is so gross
lean surge
stone prism
I wonder what Albaz and Fleur would look like fused together?
lean surge
That's all for now.
Have to wait for more scans/tls to drop in 4chan. 
In the mean time, have human Maghnamut.
celest storm
We’re the spright cards done yet
Someone has the translations for some of it
Posted on zodiac
lean surge
“Prologue: Clear New World
In a space where everything is enveloped in deep darkness, a glitter indescribable as a birth nor an ending burst open.
Green, blue, red…with the passage of time, among the various planets that increased this glitter, a small blue glitter became a planet and began pouring over the green planet.”
“Chapter 1: Primitive Planet Reichphobia
[REDACTED]”
fading yarrowBOT
“Prologue: Clear New World
In a space where everything is enveloped in deep dark...
Could not resolve English data for searches: redacted
long bison
So they're referring to Visas' as a planet?
viral orbit
lore drops
Visas is a baby...
Absorbs shit
THIS IS JUST FUCKING KIRBY....
viral orbit
hem does this make Albaz Kirby too
lean surge
a[Tearlaments Metanoise]
fading yarrowBOT
a[Tearlaments Metanoise]
lean surge
The reason Tear girls look wary is because Visas looks like Reino a lot.
We have another Arc V momento, with 2 completely different looking anime chars are twins according to everyone in universe.
hollow wraith
what does havnis mean?
jade iron
what does havnis mean?
Havnis deez nuts
jade iron
Hmm
white depot
Konami on their way to waste 12 slots in the future.
I doubt that. Maybe three units on four cards? 12 numbers used for time and four directions
white depot
Ah ok
viral orbit
I doubt that. Maybe three units on four cards? 12 numbers used for time and four...
it's ain't the first time that a theme got 12 cards as legacy support.
remember the tcg Noble Knight support
lean surge
Labyrnth section of VBEX ends on To Be Continued.
white depot
It wasn’t all monsters though
lean surge
Also the sisters have a middle sister and ship the Knightgirl with the Lady.
foggy lotus
Have we got pics yet
Oh
... So quick skim
Cartesia fell
Then Fleur's will to protect Ecclesia reformed the body into Luluwalilith
Also 12 11 more Vaylantz cards let's fucking gooooo
I THIRST FOR SCANS
foggy lotus
Have to wait for more scans/tls to drop in 4chan. <:pensivecowboybread:737367263...
Where does it usually get posted? in /v/ or /vg/?
wide plume
wide plume
Alba Zoa consumed the Bystials
Wait where do you see that?
molten cobalt
New lore is amazing
viral orbit
can't wait for ppl to get mad at it "cuz it does isn't what they were speculating"...
devout hearth
so zoa is pater
viral orbit
is it ?
devout hearth
Maximus went fucking insane
tbh who wouldn't in that situation
build a whole fucking church
foggy lotus
Seeing the golden light that bathed the battlefield elicited a violent reaction from something. It was Dogmatika Alba Zoa and the Bystials, whose powers radiated from the castle [the Bystials are referred to as "亜竜" I guess like sub-dragons as in MH sub-species?], Maximus who founded the great nation of Dogmatika and guided its people. However, he himself was the most fanatical zealot who had been taken by madness.
Why are dragons being created? What is Aluber [his half] and Assasin [my half] doing*? How many long centuries have I spent coming to this land and trying to rebuild the world? The curtains have only just raised on the story I have written. I must welcome the god that has guided me through mountains made of thousands of corpses and rivers flowing with the blood of billions to the jewelled throne crafted with death.
Alba Zoa, who so desired his god and consumed by madness, consumed the Bystials around him and began to commit atrocities to himself closer to god.
*From what I can infer Maximus is referring to Aluber as Albaz' "other half" while Ashiyan or "Assassin" is his own "other half"
molten cobalt
Maximus really wanted to kill everything
devout hearth
sacrifice 666 saints
foggy lotus
devout hearth
complete the ritual shit
foggy lotus
Dude just fucking snapped
devout hearth
I must welcome the god that has guided me through mountains made of thousands of corpses and rivers flowing with the blood of billions to the jewelled throne crafted with death.
this goes hard wtf
primal spire
Are you gonna collect all the TLs in one place?
foggy lotus
devout hearth
this is the crowd's reaction
viral orbit
DT had its fairshare of dragons too
zealous berry
Dragons are state mandated in lore
viral orbit
konami loves dragons so much that we have like... 4 dragon types
Dragon
Sea Dragon
Phantom Dragon
and Dinos
foggy lotus
MY HEART
Why did Fleur run away from Dogmatika? Why did they part in the Great Sand Sea? Ecclesia embraced Fleurdelis, heart filled with regret.
The baby bird that had been so carefully nurtured in an inescapable cage had been released into the big, wide world, and her heart had become stronger and more beautiful. If this had not come about, then when time came that an unbelievable sadness, regret and despair would well up inside her, she would lose the protection of the Icejade and the Brand would awaken. (cuts off mid-sentence after this)
Lordy we got a big one
molten cobalt
We need more pictures like that
foggy lotus
End of the Final Battle
The Incandescent King, Nadir of Despair*
The moment Albaz's hand touched the falling Cartesia, a brilliant light was released that consumed both their forms. Maybe it was the dragon-transforming power that should have been taken from Albaz, maybe it was due to Cartesia's power, or maybe it was a miracle triggered by something else entirely... Within that brilliant light, Albaz took back Ecclesia from within Cartesia. When the light converged, there stood a new, beautiful dragon possesing a fierce, golden flame: Albion the Incandescent Dragon.
*墜ちる天底 is the title here, "falling" "nadir", bit of liberty taken there
foggy lotus
Dammit power went out
Albion released the golden flame from within its body. The mystical flame bathed the battle-strewn land of Golgonda... However, the flame did not incinerate anyone, instead it soothed the violent Despian vanguard and surrounded them in light, returning their bodies to their former selves.
devout hearth
un-comedy'd
celest storm
So from what I’m understanding, the god Maximus worships hasn’t touched the game yet right
Dis pater is just a fake imitation of it?
After zoa ate all the other bystials
white depot
I wanna know how he became Zoa
celest storm
100 pushups+100 sit ups every day since ecclessia left
devout hearth
So from what I’m understanding, the god Maximus worships hasn’t touched the game...
yea i think so
los was just a superweapon and dispater is zoa after doing cocaine
foggy lotus
Dogmatika Alba Zoa falling further and becoming Despian Dis Pater after gaining the consumed Bystials' power, would stand for no further unexpected circumstances, turned his attention towards Albion.
At that moment, red lightning struck and thunder roared at the spot where Cartesia's form had fallen. The final weapon, Cartesia's form, was quickly crumbling due to having lost Ecclesia, its keystone. Taking advantage of this, the soul of the strongest saint took control.
"Protect Ecclesia." With this one thought in mind, the melted, crumbling form of Cartesia once again began to take form, the armour and sword of a knight, symbolising her oath. This was the first and final Swordsoul awoken by Fleurdelis.
silver harbor
Kickass
silver harbor
foggy lotus
Dis Pater raged on, but despite his efforts, the battle was coming to a close. The huge castle Despia had fallen thanks to Sargas' huge barrage, and Fleurdelis' powerful lightning attack struck Dis Pater with thousands of bolts. Then, Shuraig's quickest attack struck a fatal blow, piercing a giant hole in Dis Pater's crumbling body.
LET'S
FUCKING
GOOOOOOOOOOO
foggy lotus
Albion's golden flame consumed Dis Pater's body, incinerating it to ash and scattering it to the winds*. Watching the scene out of the corner of his eye, Aluber slowly descended. He showered the one that prostrated himself before him with words of gratitude and praise. He looked very, very happy, as if he was a jester...
*Thanks to the glare this is an educated guess, can't see shit cap'n
A lone girl walks along the war-torn path, chatting and occasionally turning as if she was travelling with a companion. After Fleurdelis' soul had once more sunk into depths, Quem, who now oversees all the saints, wiped the forlorn expression from her face and turned her back on the great nation that had lost its glory...
devout hearth
girl made friends with the voices in her head
foggy lotus
Yep
It was born suddenly, but inevitably. It has no memories, but that made sense. The Splight energy that was released in the Great Sand Sea created a lone figure with the remains of Alba Los. Being a stray child with no parents but having gained sentience, the Fallen of Argyro* began to walk, as if guided by something.
*落とし仔 here referencing an illegitimate child, but "Fallen of Argyro" to be consistent with TCG, thanks localisation.
foggy lotus
Fuck it
I've just compiled what I've done so far
Knock yourself out
I haven't done icejade and the boundless open land because it disappears into the binder so
I'll leave those for now
primal spire
Yeah defo setting up a season 2
That Aluber monologue is just big "villain who won in the first half" vibes
Did you translate the Spright stuff yet?
Or this stuff in general
foggy lotus
I thought he did
primal spire
Yeah, but I prefer to have everything translated by one guy for consistency
long bison
wtf, wait...so it just "suddenly" appeared from the remains of Alba Los and the Spright Energy used?
Then...what about the jacket? And the Spriggans necklace??
primal spire
Sprind
long bison
So did Kitt just abandon Sprind after the battle and it just made Fallen of Argyros?
There's so little answers given for this.
It just made more questions lol.
maiden thicket
maybe she lost/misplaced and thought "Oh it probably won't make a new villian" and forgot
primal spire
My guess is the Sprights burned out when used for Shuraigs big attack
But then the energy collected itself around Alba Los
And it took the jacket and the necklace as mementos
devout hearth
i could buy a "they got dropped in the rush to get to the battle and couldn't be found afterwards" thing
long bison
It's like a "stray child" and just walking now, doing things from pure instinct lol
maiden thicket
Or was lost in the chaos
foggy lotus
My take is they're all remnants from the battle
Just strewn about the battlefield
And the splight energy just picked it all up
wide plume
AYYY I RECOGNIZE THAT BIT OF JAPANESE
@foggy lotus just so I understand Fallen of Argyro is otoshi-ko, or an unwanted child/bastard in the literal sense?
(Thank you hour long dark souls lore video)
According to the lore guy I got it from it also has connotations of something that is unwanted past the whole "born our of wedlock" thing.
primal spire
Btw can we get Duckys translations pinned?
wide plume
I can't, I don't work here
primal spire
Yeah but you know people who do
Still, overall ... I think Albaz lore is the best one weve had so far
I just hope season 2 doesnt fuck it up
foggy lotus
They're not done yet wait for full scans
primal spire
Ye I know
candid pebble
Every other lore saga we've had stumbled by the time they got to this point in the story lol
As we've gone on, each new story has had more thought put into why people go to different places
molten cobalt
@foggy lotus anything on Purrely pages?
foggy lotus
Haven't looked
lean surge
Better than trying to pin like 40 scattered and out of order paragraphs. 
foggy lotus
Being a weeb so I've been group building a gundam kit
primal spire
https://imgur.com/a/hKYkRku
You can pin this at least
lean surge
https://imgur.com/a/hKYkRku
... on Rindbrumm was Albaz. With the last of his strength, he let out a shout. The name,
「Ecclesia!」
The first time she held out her hand, he falteringly took it. Even after that, during their travels, she would reach out to him over and over again. The fighting may have separated their hands, but no matter what, they'll be joined again!
Light of the Branded
After the bombardment, Albaz pursues the girl falling to her certain death. Reach for the one who means the most to you with all your might.
What is this, I read? Is this what they call pure Kino?
lean surge
Siscon energy makes a villian back to good with a new powered up ED form while MC goes to final form of their ED mechanic to kill fake God.
This is just WL. 
primal spire
Fleur-de-lis wasn't really ever a villain tho
foggy lotus
She never was yeah
She was ecclesia's guardian
Then awakened her swordsoul
Then one-shotted Golgonda when they were in trouble
Wow fandom wiki truly is garbage
hollow wraith
tbf most of the editors left for yugipedia
so i guess nobody got around to updating this page
silver harbor
Leave fandom to burn
foggy lotus
We don't have the second page do we?
lean surge
Sadly not.
halcyon crane
I stopped using Fandom because how often it makes my browser crash like wth?
foggy lotus
Almost done this first page
halcyon crane
How in the world stubbed article can crash a browser?
foggy lotus
Labrynth
A beautiful yet eerie silver demonic castle. Numerous instant-death traps full of unfeeling demons and servants await knights within it, along with a beautiful mistress of the castle. What is behind the scenes of this impregnable castle that repels all who enter...?Lovely Labrynth of the Silver Castle
Giant Silver Castle.
It is said that the castle is cursed, and unless the true treasure within is retrieved, it will never be lifted.
It is said that the mistress of the castle is a princess as delicate as white thread, as fragile as the moon, and is unrivalled in her beauty.
In this castle where legends abound, a knight sets foot within it again this night...Labrynth Set-Up
Ariane: Come on, come on, the knight is about to show up!! Hurry up and get in position! Archfiend! Didn't I tell you you're in the grand hallway tonight?!
Arianna: Chandraglier, don't fall asleep.A few moments later...
Ariane the Labrynth Servant
Alright, we made it! ... oh crap!
C-cough!
WELCOME, KNIGHT!
Tonight, all within the castle is ready to receive you with the utmost courtesy and hospitality.Arianna the Labrynth Servant
Go on, please enjoy it to your heart's content.Ariane
FIRST, TO THE GRAND RECEPTION HALL!
This is a collection of furnishings that the princess has elaborately planned out.
This is the result of almost three days of work at night!Arianna
You can be assaulted from all directions by bloodthirsty demons [cut off, not sure what it says]. Please enjoy it to your heart's content.Moments later...
Please enjoy it to your heart's...
Enjoy it to your...
Uh, Knight?
Have fun
silver harbor
I wonder if we’ll ever get a monster of Ms. knight
foggy lotus
I'm really hoping so
primal spire
How do you implement the speed run theme though
silver harbor
Probably activate from deck
foggy lotus
Oh man
It'd be sick if they implemented a Boss Monster (the table top game) mechanic
Where you moved from zone to zone
And you have to clear the opposing zone of monsters/spell/traps in order to progress
And you win if you reach the other end
But that's probably horrific in terms of phrasing and abuse from other cards
lean surge
If Knight ever gets a monster, it will prob be smthg like Immune to Traps (kinda boring) or summon itself back from any zone when it leaves the field by a Trap eff. None of the Lab cards return to hand or banish fd and even the Lab field's pop is not it's own eff but gives it to a Trap activation, so that could work.
muted anchor
have it as an archetypal kaiju that messes with your opponent when you activate traps
pretty much the side effect of speeding through all the traps
viral orbit
girl made friends with the voices in her head
🎵 And do they speak to you? 'Cause they speak to me, too The pressure and the panic You push your body through 🎵
viral orbit
How do you implement the speed run theme though
When a card or effect is activated in this card's column (Quick Effect): You can move this card to another of your MMZ, and if you do, this card is unaffected by that effect.
or something
frigid sigil
So for this scene here, ppl initially thought the mermaids were creeped out by this dude appearing out of no where watching them swim
VBEX3 says they were actually reacting to Visas having the same face as Reinoheart
foggy lotus
That was what I'd always thought it was
frigid sigil
Each of the hearts represents one of Visas' emotions that was separated from him
Also, it seems Visas made the mistake of subduing Reichheart first, because it was apparently the latter who was holding back the Kashtrila from invading 
celest storm
Army of doggos>Alien Conquistadors
lean surge
"Same Face"
Atleast Visas, Rise, and Rium def have the same face. Kinda feels like they came up with the same face thing midway thru.
viral orbit
anything about icejade yet ?
foggy lotus
Aegerine went back home and decided to keep moving forward with her life etc. etc.
Was what I caught
Part of it was in the stupid book margin in the photo
viral orbit
i was hoping to know if there was any other surviving icejades
frigid sigil
Ok wtf?
So Riumheart actually disappears after saving Visas
His Visas emotion was the emotion of fear apparently
halcyon crane
Atleast Visas, Rise, and Rium def have the same face. Kinda feels like they came...
Ye the Funko Pop one doesn't looks remotely similar to Visas bar the colored stand hair
And Reino doesn't even has the strand hairs as the others (even if he has, it looks more like shading/lighting)
primal spire
His Visas emotion was the emotion of fear apparently
.... wasnt that Reichheart?
frigid sigil
I'm following what the JP discussion says since no one is posting pics of it 
It would be nice if there was pics though so I can confirm it
lean surge
white depot
Why doesn’t anyone buy this book on Amazon JP? I heard it’s on there
frigid sigil
Next time, I'll buy it when I'm buying something from JP. My shipment has already shipped so can't add anymore to it 
Maybe when DUNE comes out so when I'm buying cards from there, I can add the VBEX books
white depot
Well I didn’t know when it was available and I understand that
foggy lotus
Same person who provided VBEX2 scans has the book on the way and she will be uploading scans
foggy lotus
Nooo clue
foggy lotus
Oop got a message back from her
She should get her book next week
My god next year I might just buy it myself
glass blaze
Heaven or Hell, Let’s Rock
viral orbit
lean surge
viral orbit
lean surge
Gonna just copy paste everything. 
viral orbit
I wouldn't trust Aura's translation tho...
she likes to project her own vision to stuff so you might wanna double check
lean surge
Fair, fair.
I'm cutting speculation or opinion bits as much as I can, but it will prob still seep thru regardless.
- quaeritis is the manifestation of all the previous saints who experienced "love and despair" ("quem quaeritis?" = who do you seek? = quaeritis would be related to quem)
- when ecclesia fell into despair from losing fleurdelis, she lost the protection from the icejades that sealed her stigmata
- quem and quaeritis, understanding ecclesia's turmoil, embrace her as she holds fleurdelis
- ecclesia's stigmata transforms into a brand, and at the same time, quem, quaeritis, and ecclesia "melt together"
alright onto aluberalbaz main event:
- aluber and albaz fuse into alba lenatus
- however, at the last second, albaz is able to regain his sense of self as he feels ecclesia's sudden cry of despair
- mustering the last of the power left to him by chengying and kosmochlor, albaz forges an icejade dagger and separates himself from aluber and regains his human form
"In the midst of the ruined battlefield, where not even a single breath was left to be drawn, Albaz desperately cried out for Ecclesia. But by then, "Ecclesia" no longer existed, and his voice only resounded hopelessly around the Swordsoul Sacred Summit."
icejade stuff:
- aegirine, seeing her mother figure turn dark and disappear in front of her, is consumed by hatred
- these strong emotions trigger her transformation into the new icejade queen
- at the same timel, swordsoul mo ye's body becomes encased in ice
- mo ye is then transformed into a guardian of the new icejade queen
- "no, what it became was not a guardian, but a sword of revenge wielded by the two who lost the ones they were trying to protect" (aegirocassis)
- nexus, which became proskenion, opens its doors, and out walks cartesia
- cartesia is "the purest embodiment of all 666 saintesses who were crushed by multitudes of love and despair, ruled by chaos"
- though it looks like ecclesia,
cartesia is an "amalgamation of resentment" that has no will of its own, with "eyes that are empty"
- with the newly created cartesia, the interior of despia, theatre of the branded begins to stir
- dramaturge uses power of his amplified brand to create countless "holes" in the sky
- from these holes, a giant dragon emerges
"Beyond the Holes lied a realm where people and gods once existed, where a whole world once existed, and where sovereigns that dominated the world through sheer strength once existed.
From there came a Dragon Kings, puppets, who cast no shadow."
"Its mighty power shook heaven and earth itself even as it was bound by chains.
Cartesia, upon seeing this sight, softened her eyes - as if she were a mother caring for her own child."
- as if guided, albaz returns to the great sand sea - gold golgonda
- there, the tribrigade and their beast tribe allies are all gathering and waiting. the mercourier albaz released earlier (before the fight at swordsoul summit) had reached them
"Albaz was sure of one thing.
The residue of power within him, and the dragon's power within <Aluber> had called out to each other.
Then, as if lying in wait just for him, a gigantic shadow appeared and filled the sky, large and domineering. Albaz scowled and glared at it."
"Aluber, upon sensing Albaz's presence, pulled his lips into a mocking smile, and urged Cartesia to use her crystal - the condensed power of the Holes.
Then, as if he were showing off, a giant Hole opened in the sky above."
- a giant weapon appears from the hole, "like the myth, two dragons entwined to protect the goddess appear" (alba los)
- this is apparently the power maximus could only imitate when he first invoked dogmatikalamity
"Taking a portion of its power into himself, Aluber transforms into a gigantic dragon before Albaz's eyes. Albaz, the one who had lost the power to become a dragon himself."
- albaz and the tribrigades start getting a little scared of who theyre dealing with
- longyuan fuses with the serpent golgonda's corpse to become the abyss dragon swordsoul
- cartesia?? also changes into a dragon with the power of the brands? (granguinol)
- deep within dogmatika, something else ("surely, a great calamity") was brewing
- dramaturge emerges from the depths and "having gone beyond the realm of mortal men, he become what can only be known as a god" (alba zoa)
- it looked like all hope was lost, but then aegirine comes over to turn the tide
- despia forces are too strong still. when cut down, they spring back up with alba zoa's power
- the tri-brigs and the allied forces know the despians are regular people underneath, and are conflicted about killing civilians
- alba los burns them up
- then all of a sudden sargas and the springans show up and wreck shit
- sargas & shuraig land a hit each on alba los' heads
- kitt comes with rindbrum, she built it by combining her two protos and the sprights
- albaz gets grabbed like a cat
- shuraig fires two charged shots at the bystial lubellion, but cartesia jumps in the way to take it
- albaz jumps out without thinking, shouting ecclesia's name
"As the falling Albaz touched Cartesia, a dazzling light shone and enveloped the both of them.
Could this have been due to Albaz's dragon powers, which were supposed to have been taken away from him? Or was it due to the power of Cartesia? Or perhaps... a miracle on its own?"
- albaz manages to recover "ecclesia" from the mass that is "cartesia", and together they become albion, the incandescent dragon
- albion emits flames which envelope the entire battlefield. however, rather than harming, it instead turns the despians back into regular people
”The golden flames spreading across the battlefield provoked a strong reaction from Alba Zoa and the chained dragons, who began emitting power.
--It was Maximus who built and led the great Dogmatika Nation, yet it was Maximus who was the most fanatic and insane of them all."
"So Maximus thought:
Why were these dragons born?
What is Aluber doing with my assassins?
How many hundreds of years have I wasted down on these lands, building the world from scratch again?"
(two big things to note about the previous passage:
maximus refers to aluber as 奴の半身 ("that blasted half a body") which the furigana forces us to read as "aluber" he also refers to the bystials as 私の半身 ("my half of the body"), which is then force-read as assassin
due to how maximus refers to aluber with 奴, i'm inclined to believe that the two halves of the body that's mentioned are from different wholes
ie, maximus' bystials, as it were, are one half of one thing. and aluber's "blasted half a body" are from something else entirely)
I think she's misunderstanding the part about other half as the Bystials instead of Ashiyan/Ad Lib.
"The curtains have yet to even rise on my story.
I have yet to build my mountain of corpses, made the rivers flow with blood, and welcome the god that shall lead me to the throne I would create with the art of death."
"Consumed by his desires to become a god, Alba Zoa devolved further into madness, and began to heinously devour the chained dragons in order to bring himself closer to his ultimate transformation."
- alba zoa, who became dis pater after devouring the bystials, turns its attention to albion, the incandescent dragon in order to get rid of it
- at that moment, a bolt of red lightning struck where cartesia's body landed
- cartesia, having lost ecclesia, who was its keystone, lost its shape
- cartesia's breakdown without ecclesia causes fleurdelis to come to the surface
- "I will protect Ecclesia. I must protect Ecclesia."
- fleurdelis' intense desire to protect ecclesia transforms cartesia's body into Despian luluwalilith
Last part missing as they had to go to work.
Continued here.
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grim marten
So Mo Ye isn’t missing she’s two swords?
silver harbor
She got turned into Aegirocrassis
grim marten
How did I never noticed her on it
silver harbor
Because aegirocrassis has like 3 colors and 2 of them are shades of blue
viral orbit
how many times i told ya all she was Aegirocrassis XD...
foggy lotus
Yeah it's.. not great it's passable but
halcyon crane
They only remember the black bodysuit clearly (or if that's her skin)
viral orbit
she wasn't even fully wyrm like the others
she was just a random ass girl with a tail
the most iconic thing about her was the dragon mask helmet
halcyon crane
I assume it's anime sexual dimorphism at play
Where female will stay human-looking, but the male is straight out furry/scaly
viral orbit
either that or she's somehow half icejade
i mean she's water attribute... and uh has the ice bats things around her
kinda sus
halcyon crane
Knowing Swordsoul in general likes to play dress-up with their female guests kind enough to give any visiting tribes their own attires, that could be the case
They haven't got the chance to dress up Ecclessia & Albaz because Longyuan decided to be dick that day
viral orbit
weird how there is no fanart of that
also it's kinda funny how anyone can become a swordsoul
anyone can become a sword soul
you just have to go there for them to bless you and give you one of dem icejade blades
no one goes there
devout hearth
based
long bison
Too far for mere mortals to get there?
devout hearth
fuck mortality i'm going on a road trip
viral orbit
Too far for mere mortals to get there?
if a wounded lady who lost all of her power can go there with her gay bros, anyone can
you can't tell me Adin can walk.... that far .... even then he did it
halcyon crane
From what we know, Dogmatika folks obviously wont go there before because anything that is not Ritual is considered "heresy"
Argyro and stuff prolly content with their domain
Tri-Brigade technically could go there however
viral orbit
still it's kinda weird that no one went there for like ages...
can't wait to see what wild archetypes are wating for us...
foggy lotus
The Swordsoul don't really announce their presence to the world
They're kind of hidden away was my impression
Since you have to travel pretty far through some misty ass shit
viral orbit
i mean it don't matter. it's not like there is any of them left alive
celest storm
https://twitter.com/MisterDuckyArt/status/1638312097330393088
full lesbian route
long bison
You know, considering how ||robots and ai learn from humans, I doubt they'd be deceived by humans that were born yesterday lmao. But we gotta push the plot forward.||
viral orbit
yeh but these were not bron tho
long bison
Well, "made". 
viral orbit
i mean these are basically clones that are made with all the data they need to be basically functioning adults
even tho they are just 15 y/o girls
stone prism
But the question is, is Mo Ye's mind and soul still intact or is her body just a medium for an Icejade construct?
silver harbor
probably both?
stone prism
probably both?
Either way depending on Aegirine's character development she could possibly change Mo Ye's form to something different.
If Fleur came back (even for a moment) so to could Mo Ye.
In irl the card based on it could allow Swordsoul and Icejades to be played together.
silver harbor
Oh yeah Mo Ye is 100% gonna be her second in command if she heel turns out of spite and depression
Even if she doesn’t want to be
stone prism
Hopefully Aegirine won't forget her Mother's love and compassion and follow the same footsteps as her, but still fight for her friends and herself.
It'd be a shame if she went full edgelord.
silver harbor
I mean she’s already doing the Emo teen thing of locking herself in her room
halcyon crane
Life has been pretty hard for her ngl
She's like, just born and next thing she know she has to be the leader of dying tribe
Dying as in as sole survivor
It's like Terry Pratchett's the Nation, the only way for her to recover is find new people to build a new tribes
silver harbor
Isn’t she like the last living Icejade atm
halcyon crane
Yeah, hence I said sole survivor
Ofc the new (potential) tribe doesnt have to be explicitly Icejade people
That's how some lore archetypes in the past created new tribes as well
Like in DT3, where Ritual Beast consist of 1 Gusto survivor, his descendant, 1 other kid, and 1 she-the-one-shall-not-be-mentioned in the lorebook
stone prism
Who is "She who shall not be mentioned?" and why she should not be mentioned?
lean surge
"The curtains have yet to even rise on my story.
I have yet to build my mountain...
Continuation from here.
"Dis Pater fumed with rage, but against his will, the battle was swiftly coming to an end.
Sargas' bombardment brought down the Despian theatre and Fleurdelis' powerful thunderbolts struck Dis Pater by the thousands."
"Finally, in one quick movement, Shuraig landed one last powerful blow onto Dis Pater, and pierced a hole through its crumbling body."
"Albion's golden flames burned the rest of Dis Pater and the dragons it had devoured to ashes.
Witnessing this scene from the corner of his eye, Aluber slowly and gently descended before them."
"With a wide bow, he rained praise and appreciation upon them for a job well done. It was like he was enjoying himself, like he was merely fooling around..."
- the good guys win ofc
- the new icejade queen, aegirine, encases the entirety of swordsoul mountain in ice ("firm, solid, so it could never crumble again")
- she also goes into isolation within the cradle
- she also seems to have zoa's body sealed away? the text says 母なる獣 to refer to it ("beast-mother") but the furigana... forces us to read it as "zoa"
- swordsoul mountain, icejade enion cradle are both sealed away by her as well
"A lone girl walks along the war-torn roads, mouthing words and sometimes turning back as if she were traveling with someone else."
"After letting Fleurdelis sink back into the depths of their soul, Quem, the new overseer of the combined saintesses, finally turns her back on the great Dogmatika nation that had now lost its former glory with a forlorn expression."
"A lone girl walks along the war-torn roads, mouthing words and sometimes turning back as if she were traveling with someone else."
"After letting Fleurdelis sink back into the depths of their soul, Quem, the new overseer of the combined saintesses, finally turns her back on the great Dogmatika nation that had now lost its former glory with a forlorn expression."
- fallen of argyros is created from the spright energy that was released into the great sand sea
- it found a vessel in the wreckage of alba los and developed sentience
- "Though it has no memory, it makes sense. It was only just born."
- "With nowhere to go, it walks forward."
"As expected, even though it has fallen, the capital 'Golgonooza' was once a city of iron and art. Many interesting things came of it. But nothing is more boring than a story that has gone on for too long."
"Let's see what role this new world would have "Albaz" play.
No matter what tale or fate is spun, the 'seed of miracles' will be right here."
(original: 昏き烙印の結晶 -> crystal of the deadly brand
furigana force-reads it as "seed of miracles")
- the continent begins to heal and rebuild in the aftermath
- after a while, albaz and ecclesia finally decide to go off on a new adventure, because there was still so much of the world they havent seen
- "But this journey will be more arduous than the one they just took."
"The fall of Dogmatika Nation, the northern power, would later go down in history as the 'Golgonda War'... which was only the beginning to a war that would soon engulf the entire continent. The pulse of this new mighty power would become a spark, and whether the people of this world wanted it or not, the era would soon plunge into further chaos."
-> The Boundless, Open Land
(...the end for now)
Tomorrow Visas Passport LORE.
devout hearth
she also seems to have zoa's body sealed away? the text says 母なる獣 to refer to it ("beast-mother") but the furigana... forces us to read it as "zoa"
lean surge
I assume, it's referring to Long Yuan+Snek.
Hmmmmm.
Someone else's tl has it as
VBEX3 implies the Zoa's power resides in Aegirine: "Within the depths of the Icejade Cenote, the sleeping mother beast <Zoa> that acts like the heart of Aegirine freezes the Sacred Summit shut. Stay firm, stay firm, I will not break a second time."
One Zoa is Maximus. One is Aegirine or Long Yuan or smthg. Other 2 unknown. Is that right?
foggy lotus
Oof even comparing those bullet points to the stuff already translated there's missed stuff and mistakes here and there 
God maybe next year I should just buy the fucking book
lean surge
Aside for the couple misinterpretations, this seems fine, also matches with a lot of what was tled before.
foggy lotus
Yeah
halcyon crane
Who is "She who shall not be mentioned?" and why she should not be mentioned?
Lara
foggy lotus
It's mostly fine
lean surge
Only gripe I have is they skipped what is happening in the Therion/Spright place since a lot of it was similar to what happened in VBEX2 which we don't have any tls for.
halcyon crane
Try looking for her name in DT3 lore book 
lean surge
But VBEX2's info on them was paper thin, wish they did tl that page as well, so we could get a better idea of Argyros, Therions, Sprights, Sargas and such.
Only page we on this portion is about the Snake Therion, I believe.
Which is mostly fluff calling her the strongest Therion.
halcyon crane
Hopefully they finally makes sense of whatever happen with Visas=Passport
foggy lotus
I wonder if there's more to the lore though
Like after Manadome it seems.. kind of resolved?
Or I guess it's just the prelude to something else maybe
lean surge
Whatever is post Manadome we will not know, since this one only goes upto CYAC.
So, any Visas Passport LORE in DUNE will prob not be mentioned.
foggy lotus
Yeah I'm very curious where it's going
If it's remotely going to be the same scope as Albaz
viral orbit
Why i feel like Aegirrine might be the next antag...
viral orbit
long bison
Why i feel like Aegirrine might be the next antag...
Inb4AegerineConsumesPeople and they become IceJade hybrids to rebuild her tribe lol.
viral orbit
nah she gives birth to 3 ice dragons...wait...
devout hearth
it all comes full circle
lean surge
She absorbed some of Long Yuan's power or smthg, going by her effect. Maybe it corrupts her or smthg.
halcyon crane
Let just hope Komoney wont pull another Construct and turn her into yet another puppet for bigger bad
I'd rather her being villain than shell
viral orbit
Let just hope Komoney wont pull another Construct and turn her into yet another ...
her having red horns is not a good sign
silver harbor
I mean mirrorjade did too
viral orbit
no it's more dis pater's horn(?) ( it's a gradient from white to pinkish red)
celest storm
When we get pt2, icejades are probably@going to be enemies
fading yarrowBOT
celest storm
Assuming time skip@and everything
stone prism
Why i feel like Aegirrine might be the next antag...
She seems more like the... Jaded individual who needs encouragement and convincing to join the fight once again.
lean surge
Chapter 12 for OCG Stories dropped.
foggy lotus
The striker manga?
I translated it yesterday morning it's been typeset already yeah or do you mean structures
lean surge
Two of the Magi and Two of Spectre Pillars are dead (for now). I don't really see Solferina returning, since they seemed to serve their purpose and already came back once, but I could see Zard coming back with a backup if they want an actual final villian since I doubt the Clone Strikers would make for good final bosses. They are more likely to be befriended or die because the cloning process was unstable or whatever.
They'll prob bring back the 2 Magi back after saving Ciela, tho prob with their emotional memory gone, same as Pylon.
foggy lotus
Maybe the three smol AI will have some contribution now the big ones are dead
lean surge
No wait, I just remembered.
Solferina had her emotional memory back, maybe it's just Karma tech sucking in comparision, and Spectre tech can recover their emotional chip too.
Feel like we are atleast finally reaching the last leg of the story.
Let's say at most another volume/half year.
Finally we'll get something new after.
Man, these really should've been small 1-2 chapter affairs.