You say that, but then consider what books actually get popular and how "organic" a lot of them ... aren't
#Art and Writing
clever pecan
But yeah, thats a good call, thanks
clever linden
Yeah fair, just I mean
I can't have a character explain the magic system when most of the cast will probably understand already how magic works lmao
clever pecan
Hopefully by the end of this I will have some inspiration/motivation to write a bit more
clever pecan
I can't have a character explain the magic system when most of the cast will pro...
Yeah thats fair
I have that same general issue
Also Im still considering if I wanna give NaNoWriMo a shot
But yeah, other than that, what do you think Yami 
tropic brook
you know, i am out of the exams now, i should probably get to finishin git too
clever pecan
I would appreciate it
clever linden
But yeah, other than that, what do you think Yami <:nyaruhodo:873056991973634078...
same as last time, good
fiery jungle
tired crystal
Was suffering a art block so I asked on another discord what I should draw and they suggested KAMEN Rider Pochita lol
sharp halo
I'm currently writing a Yu-Gi-Oh! Arc-V Quest (A Quest is like a fanfic, but the readers vote on what happens).
It's currently still in character creation (Right now the Crystal Beasts deck is winning).
https://forums.spacebattles.com/threads/linked-dimensions-yu-gi-oh-arc-v-quest.1047973/
fiery jungle
Turned out the artstyle I'm used for Revendread Slayer is very applicable to Dark Souls, who could've guess?
fiery jungle
That and nutcrackers combined yeet
It's kinda running gag I started from this
Just have weird-ass looking weapon
clever pecan
Nice
clever linden
@clever pecan finished part 1, and yeah got no real complaints here since it's just the MC snooping around the city and all
clever pecan
Oh, thats good to hear
clever linden
I do like the inventive worldbuilding fwiw
The fact the city has what I imagine being basically fantasy brutalism due to its alchemical district
as well as tons of magic backup to control the fires and explosions
clever pecan
Admitively I was proud of that part
I thought about it and it just made sense that it would be very function over form
clever linden
Really feels like the type of place that basically sees something like (I think that's what the MTG thing is called) the Izzet, and learns to control it
Like it really strikes a visual of this just
gray and dull city, contrasted by the constant explosions
and the people have kinda just shrugged it all off
Since if there's no real danger or lasting damage, who cares
trim seal
so close to finish my biggest projeect c:
knotty ibex
Smol Shork
tribal thicket
barren sluice
Drew some YGO characters in the style of Popn'Music!
https://twitter.com/Marettipop90/status/1583575001139027969?s=20&t=vfh1q-nTasZBZ1rTPzhQXQ
4pics
clever linden
@clever pecan reading third part. Didn't Matt literally say before this that he doesn't dream, then mentions at the start of chapter 3 he dreams
clever pecan
... uh
Let me check
Oh youre right
Im just gonna cut that earlier reference then
Hmmm
clever linden
Yeah it's just a line that really stood out ot me
clever pecan
Admitively I forgot why I wrote it
clever pecan
Yeah no thats totally fair
clever linden
Yeah it just makes it seem like early instalment weirdness
like at some point you planned he lost the ability to dream
which when the prologue mentions prophetic dreams are a thing
could have its own unique implications
clever pecan
I think that might've been an idea I had once
But I can't remember what the payoff was anymore
clever linden
Yeah fair enough
clever pecan
... replacing it is harder than I thought
Maybe something like
“Wouldn’t dream of it.” Matt shakes his head. “I’m just a writer looking for interesting things to write about, and this sounds quite interesting”.
?
Its a more boring line, but it isnt a super important thing
clever linden
Yeah, it's better to just have it normal
than imply something wrong?
Also another question for chapter 3
"Based on what he had heard from the man in the crowd, it seems the previous Lord Cantor was one of them."
what man
who ever implied this
oh wait
no I get it
one of the blacksmiths did
my bad
clever pecan
Yeah I swear that interaction wasnt cut
But its a line that should still be there, even if its a minor one
clever linden
yeah it was minor enough I forgot for a bit
The only other thing I can think of rn is maybe explain the difference between magic circle based magic vs incantation magic
Not in the immediate chapter itself, but something to show what makes them different
since why would "summon a circle" be rarer than having to think really hard on a set of phrases
and why does ||seal|| magic only work with the former
Because you create an interest tidbit of worldbuilding, so it'd be a shame to not slightly elaborate
clever pecan
Oh, is it not apparent from the description?
I was worried about saying too much because I wanted to follow the adage of "show, don't tell"
clever linden
Well I don't really get it myself at the least
because when I think magic circle I kinda think like owl house
just make a circle and poof
seems way easier to pull off
clever pecan
Ah
Yeah its uh
The opposite
Magic circles are intricate, so theyre slow
And rather difficult to actually manage
clever linden
Since from the way you describe the greater cure spell it sounds like it's so much more based on concentration
Yeah I could assume so
clever pecan
Seal magic needs it because seal magic needs to be precise
clever linden
But the implication leaves the opposite
clever pecan
Hmm
Now to some degree this might just be Owl House influencing your interpretation, but thats still an issue
Kinda tough to figure out a way to be clearer
It does come up again
clever linden
I'd say one or two sentences can help
clever pecan
But Im not sure an explanation would fit in until much later, so it should be here
clever linden
a little bit more detail on the description
something like
"He makes wild yet ever precise gestures slowly carving patterns into the air like a sculptor carving marble."
clever pecan
Too purple prose-y, but I get the idea
clever linden
Yeah
I specifically did prose on purpose
to kinda go over the top
Since I feel like, if you go over the top it makes for a better example
because it shows what the core idea is?
Mind you, owl house isn't the only system with a magic circle thing, but all of them tend to be reach your hand out and circle appears kinda magic
I agree with show don't tell, but remember - this is a book
clever linden
So you need to show the description
Yeah fair, FMA is different
but it's more of an exception than the rule
clever linden
Well I do mean overall media
Of course in books hard magic systems are way more popular
tropic brook
yeah i was thinking books
clever linden
though I also haven't read many novels in a long time so my knowledge on fantasy novels has waned
clever pecan
Does this work
"But as Matt looked closer, he recognised the gestures for what they were, as an intricate patchwork of magical energy began forming in the air, each successive layer more detailed than the last"
clever linden
Yeah, the intricacy implies at the least a stronger level of control combined with the contextual clues of the conversation imho
clever pecan
And I replaced "manifested" with "Activated" in the next sentence
clever linden
though really only implies
I can easily still see others stumble over this
but they'd grasp it sooner or later
clever pecan
Well
There is another description of a magic circle within this macro-chapter later
There is a reason I set up Sol having that magic
clever linden
ah lmao
anyway finished another chapter, seems nice
Again, artefacts could maybe get explained, but I feel they speak for themselves
magic items
also sol really is the type of dude to have the ^_^ type anime smile
ya know the one
where they close their eyes but if their eyes open they're about to kick your ass
clever pecan
You
You get it
Also, hm, maybe I do need to explain artefacts, because magic item isnt quite right
clever linden
I mean simplifying it, but the general gist of it ya know
clever pecan
Well
Theyre more magic wifi I guess?
An artefact allows spells within its range to actually work
Big cities have large ones covering the area
For travel there are small ones you can carry in your bag or pocket
clever linden
Yeah the pen implies that to me
But again was simplifying it
Anyway still good, now gonna slee
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Twitter
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Yeeeep
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Does anyone have much experience with tablets
Been considering upgrading my XP Pen 12 to something bigger
Not sure if I should go 16 or 22 inches or which brand
though there is a sale for xp pen and huion kamvas stuff...
clever pecan
Well
I do have a drawing tablet
... ah nvm, its about the same size
I do like Huion though
They make good stuff
From my outsiders perspective though, 22 inches seems a bit too big
Like that's something that probably only makes sense for professionals doing stuff like storyboarding
fiery jungle
My Huion is tablet for OSU actually
Pretty smol
...I should buy bigger tablet
Maybe this is reason why I draw so slow
vapid pewter
omg this guy I love him
fiery jungle
Have you ever get to the point in a group discussion, where you mixed up fanfic depictions of certain character, because it's more developed & interesting than its canon version?
fringe fable
No, since I'll always know in my heart it's non-canon and less cool in fan visuals. 
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I know someone who loves both kamen rider and symphogear
they will love this
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That one on the top left 
clever linden
ourple
fringe fable
lmao, this site is pretty fun to refresh for potential lost arts: https://more-lost-arts.github.io/#9980_1
They really are afraid of some legs from a fox robot...thing.
clever pecan
I might have a story idea for if I do NaNoWriMo
next cradle
Got 5 days to hash it out
clever pecan
Although Id have to put my current book on pause if I go that route
Which Im not sure I want to do
open bridge
I have devolved to making hollow knight references
clever pecan
Whatcha thinking of?
nocturne karma
Jack of Heart I think I mentioned it before
oh right no the channel closed down
country bumpkin with a heart of gold in a grimdark setting gets a funky phoenix friend that can turn into a gun and decides to give the world back its heart
clever pecan
Aye
Im thinking of a story about a post-apocalyptic world where humans have retreated deep underground, and primarily rely on geothermal energy
With regions where lava is closer to the surface being more prosperous than ones that need to drill deep
And the story involves cities going dark one by one in the distance, implying something is going after the human remnants
My only concern right now is figuring out exactly where the story should go, and what angle to go at it with
clever pecan
I tend to prefer to go into a story having a general idea already
Though again, Im not 100% Ill do it since I would have to pause the book Im already writing
I dont know if you can just write 50000 words for the book youre already writing though
Oh I have only written ~18k for this novel across 2 years
... 50k sounds like a lot
golden summit
Sit in front of it
I talk to people in my class who write and they also have the same problem
It's common, 'cause this shit hard
I recommend finding a place outside of the house to sit and write, to reduce distractions
I did a lot of my writing on public transport or on campus
Cafes are a popular spot for that
clever pecan
Ironically thats not my issue
I just am not confident enough in my writing
Right now I'm waiting for Yami and Guy to read it before I continue
clever pecan
Wanna read up to the part Im at right now
golden summit
I still need to read part... 2?
Or 3 idr
||the part where the two nobs talk before the ball, iirc||
Actually, I have it on my pc. I'll read it now.
clever pecan
So good news and bad news
Good news is I dont need to link it again
Bad news is, I havent written since
Or maybe I wrote a bit, but I dont remember for sure
golden summit
Gonna need to re-read the whole thing
The file I have has 40 word pages, is that up to date?
I remember the story, but not the names
Eh, it's p short and v fast paced, reading it again will be fun
clever pecan
If that includes the first page which just has the not yet a title title
Thats one page short
Hold on
golden summit
Yeah, including
clever pecan
golden summit
Danke
Wish I could share bits of my story but shit's all nsfw
Highly graphic violence ain't something I want to share here
golden summit
Gn
clever pecan
Night
modest oar
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hearty meteor
THat looks so COOOOOOOOOOOOOL
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I know several people who will be extremely enthused to see this
open bridge
i am honestly not into kamen rider whatsoever
but I do like Hibiki stuff
clever pecan
Exactly
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Been binging Symphogear with friends up to AXZ ep 4 it's been nice
I'd only seen up to GX
fiery jungle
nocturne karma
i am honestly not into kamen rider whatsoever
but I do like Hibiki stuff
cringe
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Nothing wrong with that 
nocturne karma
It’s less that I don’t like it and more I haven’t gotten into it
get into it then
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I never really got into power rangers
Idk if power rangers but better and not half repurposed into a sitcom/kids soap opera is gonna catch me
nocturne karma
it's like
if you let the medium dissuade you then you'll have a hard time enjoying much of anything
open bridge
I get power rangers isn’t a good comparison, even if it’s the closest American equivalent
nocturne karma
at its core Kamen Rider is about morals, and it teaches good morals very well
it's really good writing
open bridge
Oh yeah I’ve heard it’s really good when it’s good
It’s just never really captivated my attention
I’ll probably give it a try someday (especially given the KR and Symphogear fandoms have a lot of crossover apparently lol)
But it’s not an urgent thing
open bridge
I’ve heard fuuto PI is good but I know it’s also a sequel to one of the shows
nocturne karma
it's really not that good presentation-wise
the thing that makes Kamen Rider is the fact that its live-action and most of the stunts are real
the animation misses the point of tokusatsu as an artform
hearty meteor
I mean, Fuuto Pi is still a good show
I think it deserves credit just for the transformation sequences and bike stunts in the show
nocturne karma
right but that's not my point
an anime production will only have a fraction as much TOKU SOUL as the old reliables
hearty meteor
...I'm going to disagree with that
There are things live-action tokusatsu has done that are all the more spectacular for being live-action, yes. But there's manga like Hero and Former General, and anime like Fuuto Pi and the Gridman Universe out there that I think also deserve the title of tokusatsu just as much
Not even including all the actual Kamen Rider manga
nocturne karma
yeah sorry but I gotta stop you right there
the Trigger Gridman stuff really is just such a sin
and unfortunately none of them stack up to the original Kuuga
hearty meteor
...we're not agreeing on this tonight.
nocturne karma
I mean that's alright, you can have your own opinion
free country and all
I just think Trigger is an awful, terrible studio with awful, terrible philosophies that create awful, terrible products that exploit only the most undemanding, complacent group of anime fans and that it cannot stack up to the passion project that was Kamen Rider Kuuga which very masterfully tells the story of a young man with a heart of gold's life-changing journey as he fights a battle against an indescribable, evil race of dark-hearted fiends as he finds himself on the precipice of his own descent into darkness as the 49-episode long soap opera almost tortures the audience as they watch to desperately find out if this young man's heart is strong enough and his will is steel enough to brace the fight that may end up literally killing him
which is only made stronger upon further research as you realize that it was made as a reinvention and deconstruction of the tokusatsu henshin hero genre that had long been dying out until that point with a director and main actor that both wanted to tell a story that would be remembered
true passion
fiery jungle
I feel like you're doing nothing yo attract someone to KR fandom if your first instinct is to discourage them
Just saying
nocturne karma
I know you like Trigger, Ray, you don't have to hide it
I just do not appreciate this slander of what is 100% a franchise worth watching
nocturne karma
my intention isn't to discourage him from watching but Fuuto Pi is absolutely not the best place to start
you will get the wrong impression and if you don't like the impression you get after you watch an actual toku you will not have fun
Fuuto Pi is, unfortunately, the Kamen Rider for people who don't want to actually watch Kamen Rider
it has all the style of it, it has all of the plot beats from the manga, but it doesn't have the """childish""" aspects of it like it being live action that turn people off
even though that's stupid that's how it works
fiery jungle
All Im saying is instead dwell on the negatives, you can start with the positives :3
golden summit
nocturne karma
good, you're wrong
golden summit
Samurai jack is best show ever
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And well if you want to start on toku you need them to get over the power rangers/live action association 
otherwise it's just not going to work that well
Samurai Jack is very cool
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nocturne karma
Samurai jack is best show ever
ex-aid clears
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Faiz is pretty good but only top 5 maybe and it kind of falls apart a bit after a while
fiery jungle
They even got three 5 in the name
nocturne karma
lol nice last word
golden summit
Anyways, writing/art stuff
Idk if I've mentioned it here, but I finished writing my book on monday
Now it's all editing, advertising, and publishing
About 140k words at the end
fiery jungle
golden summit
Cut out an entire scene in my editing already, and there's so much more to do
But it feels so good to be done with the writing
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viscid bobcat
I just think Trigger is an awful, terrible studio with awful, terrible philosoph...
not gonna lie, i think it's pretty wack that you're calling a show that was explicitly made to sell toys to children a "passion project"
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also wasn’t LWA LITERALLY a passion project
viscid bobcat
yeah
i'm pretty sure gridman was too since the whole reason the anime happened in the first place was because some people at trigger really liked gridman
but kamen rider is absolutely not a passion project by any stretch of the imagination
clever linden
I mean some seasons probably are
You can't tell me they aren't the passion project of some of the writers
But it's also still a toy commercial, like I watched and really enjoyed W, and fairly enjoyed Ex-Aid
But both clearly want me to buy their toys and merch
modest oar
lunar storm
nocturne karma
but kamen rider is absolutely not a passion project by any stretch of the imagin...
lol
lmao, even
if you wanna be poignantly ignorant then go ahead
but it being made to sell a profit does not take away from the artistic value of this, I thought you of all people would understand
you can stop with this whole cinema snob deal that turns their noses up at anything remotely childish
doesn't help you haven't seen or done any research into that genre and are just speaking for the sake of speaking because you have a grudge
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nocturne karma
getting real tired of this shit
"hmm yes I will speak my mind on something I have absolutely no depth of knowledge in and will just speak blatantly incorrect things for the sake of saying them"
if it's toys that are a problem, then the entirety of the mecha genre would be incapable of being passion projects right
I thought it was a basic concept everyone who has even the smallest idea of how entertainment works had grasped by now but I guess not
someone who wants to make a show makes a deal with the producers and sponsors
the show-maker gets to make a show aligned mostly with how they'd like to make it, and in turn they add toyetic elements so that the sponsors can make a profit
it's a give and take system
for example, the RX-78 from the original Gundam was meant to have an all-white color scheme with grey accents
but since the sponsors wanted to sell the toy to children they changed the Gundam to a white, blue, and red color scheme
and I don't know if you know but the toys ended up being what saved Gundam
literally, the original show flopped but the gunpla and toys made such an insane profit that they made more
so don't you go saying it has no passion because there's toys
viscid bobcat
you can stop with this whole cinema snob deal that turns their noses up at anyth...
you're the one who is calling trigger's stuff "awful and terrible" because you personally don't like it, and you also said that copper was "cringe" for enjoying hibiki
viscid bobcat
why are you calling people cringe for not being into the stuff you're into
nocturne karma
that has literally nothing to do with this
and you are grasping at straws
and I'm sorry I guess I'm just an old timer
back in my day we used to call things we don't like bad
instead of this new fancy "I don't like this thing"
viscid bobcat
I just think Trigger is an awful, terrible studio with awful, terrible philosoph...
you have no right to call other people snobs when you call them "complacent and undemanding" just because they enjoyed something you don't like
nocturne karma
you gotta give me some time, I'm still learning
nocturne karma
you have no right to call other people snobs when you call them "complacent and ...
you have no right to say kamen rider isn't a passion project when you don'
t know anything about tokusatsu
viscid bobcat
if my first exposure to kamen rider was from people talking about it the way you do i would never touch it with a 10 foot pole
nocturne karma
am I supposed to give a shit
viscid bobcat
given that you were trying to get someone to watch it earlier, yes?
nocturne karma
no, seriously, am I supposed to give a shit about what you'd do
viscid bobcat
yes you should care about how people react to the things that you say
nocturne karma
you jumped in as a spectator with no context or history or background and are just blabbing your mouth on about semantics
I don't talk like this with other people, if you noticed the other day I had a nice chat with Choccy about Kuuga
but it's specifically you and ducky talking
viscid bobcat
you talk like this literally every time i see you talking with anyone who says they don't like something you do
i'm saying this as someone who enjoyed what bits of kamen rider i have seen
nocturne karma
that's because the human mind is conditioned to remember negative events over positive
frank brook
nocturne karma
he's blocked me so I'll drop it
clever linden
@golden summit @fiery jungle oh ye so, my friend primal is gonna do one more try in an OCT since Stannum and Chutney didn't get accepted. Midwich.
One of the judges personally requested for her to join due to her horror vibes, since this is an OCT that's very... SCP inspired mixed with analog horror stuff.
So Franklin is getting his return
but no iggy this time
Unfortunately both of us agreed since Franklin is very much her character and I can't give much input on the writing surrounding him that this will likely be a solo adventure
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Oh hey he got muted 
misty ocean
Let's not discuss that here
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Yeah that's fair
clever linden
Hmm Franklin but no Iggy huh
Yeah, the idea is pretty simple. Since it's an SCP foundation type thing, Franklin has been seperated from all his dinos
So no King, Greta, Bigs, Iggy, etc.
However the setting takes place within a cavernous system somewhere in the US, so there's possibly 1-2 new dinos
The setting is really simple
secret organization doing the SCP thing on people
There's weird shit happening
And the prison they're in is inside of as I said, a cavernous system
Also officially the organisation is just a nature park, but it's a front ofc
fiery jungle
clever linden
There's other tweaks, but it's going to deal with stronger themes let's say
also
way stronger horror focus
And more focus on Franklin being forced to interact with people
modest oar
fiery jungle
Goo luck
clever linden
https://twitter.com/RedactedPC/status/1586123649337028608 @fiery jungle @golden summit btw
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clever linden
slight redesign to franklin, and some possible new summons for him
Primal decided to give Franklin more curly hair for one lmao
fiery jungle
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modest oar
i don't think there will be a line at all
it's just gonna keep going until it either consumes the medium or dies out.
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This is also his opinion
And I get his frustration
I don't particularly like where it's going but I think it'll probably take over a lot too
clever pecan
it's just gonna keep going until it either consumes the medium or dies out.
It's unlikely to do either tbh
Itll probably end up finding its niche, and staying that way
fringe fable
Yeah, the topic's been discussed over and over, and feels like nothing productive will ever come out of it.
But anyways, this art is pretty epic: https://twitter.com/YugiohArt/status/1586434624757981184?s=20&t=QhvPNqeHbFRKA0OlIwf5Gw
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fiery jungle
lunar storm
This counts as Halloween drawing of the year
analog stone
The colours don’t look right unless you open it
But here’s a basic test of pixel animation
What do you guys think
I mean it’s just blinking but yeah
golden summit
Love the design, and the blink is smooth
I'm a sucker for more than 2 eyes
Also looks like clawed feet
analog stone
I think I’ve posted the concept art before
golden summit
Hardly
golden summit
Could have it swish from side to side
analog stone
For now I just wanted to practice proportions
fringe fable
I still got 2 more drawings to go. I need to catch up when I get home.
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To be fair I took a lot easier this year too
Instead of a completed piece each day I just opted for drawing each day
With multi-day pieces at least going at a steady rate like rough > draft > line > render
tired crystal
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viscid bobcat
bleak scroll
https://mobile.twitter.com/PseudoRulerXV/status/1586510924306796544
wake up! The hero!
wait, that's the sequel
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C u t e
hearty meteor
all i can see is Marine
knotty ibex
I like the Cartoon Avatars more. These just give them Waifu Tax
open bridge
The links were already waifu tax
clever pecan
Btw @clever linden Im guessing you have been too busy to finish reading the thing lately, yeah?
clever linden
Btw <@131023596607897600> Im guessing you have been too busy to finish reading t...
yeah, but doing it today I hope
clever pecan
👍
knotty ibex
The links were already waifu tax
Oh wait yeah. The Main Deck was the Avatars and the Links the Waifus. My bad
clever pecan
Btw @tropic brook have you read it at all
tropic brook
i have read more than i had before, but i am not finished yet
clever pecan
Fair enough
modest oar
primal crag
Chapter XXV of my ARC-V story, (æ)donai, is up!
https://www.fanfiction.net/s/13672697/1/æ-donai
https://archiveofourown.org/works/25930729
clever pecan
Random question, how would you feel about a change in perspective in the middle of a macro-chapter (but between "micro"-chapters")?
clever linden
@clever pecan finished reading the next part and it just... feels very long
Like nothing good...nothing bad
just
long
Like it's pre-prep, fireworks, pre-prep
May have started skimming a bit
Can he see through the fire elementals or?
clever pecan
Interesting concept, but no
Would make a later Arcana a bit uh
Less impressive?
You read through part 3, right?
clever pecan
I do admit that was a worry I had at the time ,that it would just be a bit too long
bleak scroll
What's the story
clever pecan
Its a story Im writing
So, would you say I should cut something from it then, Yami?
clever linden
Honestly, cut the pleasantries shorter
Like we don't need to get introduced to every single person
at the workshop
when only one matters
clever linden
not the right word
clever pecan
I was worried that I forgor my own story that much
clever linden
but I mean the dudes showing your MC fireworks
clever pecan
Mmh
I guess I can remove some of them, just that I didnt want to completely leave it out since they do have a bit of banter later on
Would it make sense to skip the introduction initially and have a brief blurb about them later on, or would that still feel long?
bleak scroll
Its a story Im writing
What's it about
clever pecan
Bit long to explain, but basically a guy who finds out he has the ability to steal peoples "arcana", spells they're born with, and who decides to start trying to steal them to find his father
clever linden
Would it make sense to skip the introduction initially and have a brief blurb ab...
makes more sense
but experiment with what feels right
clever pecan
Anything else to maybe make it feel less long? It's definitely important to not uh
clever linden
it might also just be that
clever pecan
Lose the reader that early
clever linden
because I'm kinda tired
clever pecan
Especially since you said you started skimming
clever linden
I'll probably reread the part tomorrow with a fresher mindset
clever pecan
I would appreciate it, but I will keep your suggestion in mind
Before you go though
clever linden
fwiw, I did also read what you got for chapter 2 and it's nice
clever pecan
What do you think of switching perspective in the middle of a macro-chapter (what I call chapters)
Oh thats good
Thats the part I was most worried about
bleak scroll
Is it a yugioh fic
clever pecan
Nah
clever linden
But also, my dude. It's 40 pages and not much plot happened
clever pecan
Original fiction
bleak scroll
Nice
clever pecan
Well part 2 is the heist, that's when stuff happens proper
That ... might be hard to fix since its kinda how I set up the story as a whole
clever linden
34 pages of setup
clever pecan
Although just to be clear, by "plot", what do you mean precisely
clever linden
I mean, I can summarize it in like 5 sentences
what happens after the prologue, but before chapter 2
clever pecan
Hmmmm
I'm not really sure I can change that without changing the fundamental structure entirely
clever linden
probably leaves you with a very niche audience all things considered, since you are doing a lot of setup that can make an audience curious but
nothing to fully grip them
So many will likely already drop the book by chapter 1
clever pecan
Well I don't expect this to make money but
That is concerning
The way I thought of it is that each heist is split into 3 parts, preparation, heist, aftermath
With the heist being where the action happens, while preparation is mostly establishing the worldbuilding and the characters
clever linden
The structure makes sense
But you might want to expand on certain aspects to make up for it
Like the political intrigue
clever pecan
Hmmm
clever linden
Mind you though continue the book as is, it's a draft all things considered
It's just that personally in your shoes, I'd have gone prologue, action, flashback to setup
clever pecan
Yeah thats fair, though admitively I struggle with going back and rewriting things much later, I tend to try and edit at the start and ...
Huh
... yknow the worst part is that that is literally an established heist trope
clever linden
Because basically, you get the idea of who the character is, roll into the action to captivate the audience
and then see the effort he put into it, and figure out why
Then after that continue into the heist
Again, that's just my take on it, but I will say I like it
clever pecan
Ok so idea I have here
There is a (relatively newly figured out) fight I wanna put in between Sol and Matt a bit later in chapter 2
I could put the part immediately preceding the fight, and the fight itself, from the perspective of the MC at the start
Then go back to the setup
clever linden
but I wouldn't say I love it. The characters are very subdued for a lack of better terms, so nobody has anything that hugely makes them stand out, moreso subtle stuff
clever pecan
Then return to that fight later from Sols perspective
clever linden
I think... that requires a very skillful writer
clever pecan
Shit
clever linden
Switching perspectives on macro and micro chapters is possible, but if you can't write in a way that allows the reader to discern who's perspective is being followed
It becomes harder to grasp what is happening
clever pecan
Mmh
I might still give it a shot, because I do think if I do an in media res for the action, it has to be from the perspective of the MC
Also, even Sol seems subdued to you?
clever pecan
Mmh, that makes sense since the MC right now is rather subdued intentionally, but I also wanted to have him have a solo heist first before getting his first partner
clever linden
for better or worse lmao
clever linden
Mmh, that makes sense since the MC right now is rather subdued intentionally, bu...
Ye ye, makes sense
clever pecan
Well I did want him to be the kinda slacker/trickster archetype you see sometimes
Still, hm
clever linden
TBH tho, I do want to know more about Sol
clever pecan
This is a lot of good feedback, but a lot of feedback that does make me question my writing a bit
clever linden
Like he clearly knows more than he lets on to our phantom thief
clever pecan
Well good news, he will appear a few more times
clever linden
nice
clever pecan
I mean I guess I shouldnt expect my first book to immediately be good
Even Pratchett started with the colour of magic
But
It is a bit ... disappointing admitively
clever linden
Ovven don't treat this as your first nove
treat this as the DRAFT of your first novel
Like i can't imagine you won't heavily rewrite the idea as you get better ideas or see holes you want to patch
clever pecan
See thats fair but I have this big problem where I really struggle to go back and change big parts of something I already wrote a while ago
Because I always worry I can no longer find the right mindset I was in anymore
But I guess its inevitable
But ye, Ill keep going
clever linden
You will never be the you of yesterday
clever pecan
I might ... try to write 50k words for this novel for NaNoWriMo, depending on how I feel tomorrow
Anyway, how about you, gonna give writing a novel this month a shot?
nocturne karma
shit NaNoWriMo starts today
clever pecan
Yesterday
hearty meteor
... I'll try to aim for either 15k or 30k by the end of the month
500-1000 words a day
I doubt it'll all be on the same story, though
clever pecan
Honestly I should try to write a lot this month
Ill never finish this book at this rate but
I am just worried that what I am writing is bad
I always do
Or hell, even just not good enough
nocturne karma
btw regi sorry what happened a bit ago, you're entitled to your own opinion and that's equally valid as my own
next cradle
Or hell, even just not good enough
Feel that 
naniwrimo's just about getting words down though right, as long as you're putting out something reasonably coherent you can go back and edit later'
clever pecan
As mentioned above, I struggle going back and editing
Its something Ive always been bad at
And that kinda ... compounds my worries
next cradle
Right do you have someone or people who can look over your stuff for you on the editing front
clever pecan
Errr no
Im just asking some folks here to read over it and give me feedback
But thats after I already kinda did editing on it myself
next cradle
Right that was my next question are you comfortable asking people here, okay good
next cradle
Yeah that's fair
hearty meteor
I think Yuri got fed up with me being terrible at keeping up with his writing
clever pecan
And like the dumbest thing is ... this isnt something I plan to make a career on
I plan to get a career in game design if anything, and thats a different style of writing
But I still cant help but worry
hearty meteor
There’s some stuff that carries over
next cradle
It'll carry over-
Yeah
Finding a way to cope with it might be a good priority if it isn't already sorry if it sounds obvious as fuck
clever pecan
Yeah but Im also planning to run some self-written campaigns and uh
That probably has more carryover
And somehow I worry less for those
next cradle
Oooh 
might be a good headspace to adjust your mind towards
clever pecan
I think its because campaigns have like
Less pressure to be perfectly written and way more space to adjust
next cradle
Do you worry your initial draft has to be perfect
nocturne karma
but you also lose control over the story you wanna tell
and you sacrifice that and give it to the players
clever pecan
Eh, to a degree
There is still a general macro-plot that they will have to follow just by virtue of the setup, its the order and the details I give away
clever pecan
Do you worry your initial draft has to be perfect
... yeah thats part of it
next cradle
Yep same struggle I have with drawing too 
nocturne karma
but the essence of DND is the players create a story
all the DM does is provide a setting for them to create that story
clever pecan
Not DnD in this case
nocturne karma
I like writing more because I get to tell the story I wanna tell
clever pecan
It'd be Digimon
Specifically a digiworld of magic rather than computers, and one that at the point the players are dropped in is actively dying
clever pecan
Yep <:Slowpokefaceplant:1010020210524295209> same struggle I have with drawing t...
Your art is genuinely good though
next cradle
Never feels that way I look at the end product and 9 times out of 10 I hate it
Like I try to buffer that horrible feeling by doing 2 draft layers now before I commit to lineart
I dunno if there's even remotely a similar equivalent in writing except "do more drafts lol" but that doesn't help if you feel pressured on your initial draft
clever pecan
Damn, Artists really will always hate their own art no matter how good it is
next cradle
Seriously these army of emotes are a coping mechanism
Because they "don't have to be perfect" since they're so small
So I dunno if it might help you to vent your anxiety another way
Just by writing down a stream of vaguely coherent garbage
Then deleting it to help you get a little bit of it out of your system
clever pecan
I'm not sure that would work, thanks though
next cradle
Yeah it's been so long since I've written 15 years now I think jesus but hey if you just want to complain about it that's cool too, sometimes you just want to bitch about something
clever pecan
I mean realistically I just wish I was confident or good in my writing
stone mesa
https://i.redd.it/pwjqvn9jxbx91.jpg
they murdered her hair
bleak scroll
My biggest fear for my story is that I don't know if I should write until abyss lore is done
And for the next lore book
fiery jungle
You can always write an AU
All I wish for Yugilore going forward is to be less dependant on brainwash/puppetry/corruption tropes
bleak scroll
All I wish for Yugilore going forward is to be less dependant on brainwash/puppe...
They've been doing that for decades; don't feel like they'll stop anytime soon
modest oar
viscid bobcat
fiery jungle
o-owo who's this fun guy?
tropic brook
Mushroom man #2, i believe
fiery jungle
All Mushroom Man has Live Twin color scheme huh
clever pecan
Its also actually being played right now in the OCG
For absolutely hilarious reasons
fiery jungle
Owo?!
Last time OCG using weird card nobody thought, it is friggin Bitelon on Monarch, what it is this time?
clever pecan
Its basically a way to brick Kashtira
dusk parcelBOT
Level: 3
[ Warrior / Effect ]
ATK 1250 / DEF 800
golden summit
Spicy
fiery jungle
Oh right they can't summon if has monster
clever pecan
But they also cant clear it off because its a warrior, which Riseheart also is, you cant make
dusk parcelBOT
fiery jungle
This reminds me
clever pecan
Its hilarious
fiery jungle
Have you ever play "Goat Format but you can bring 1 modern card in your deck" concept?
Kashtira Fenrir powercreeps every card released in the last 23 years
Fur Hire in Kashtira :risuthonk:
clever pecan
Yeah the link is useful to remove their stuff and clear your board
dusk parcelBOT
Level: 7
[ Psychic / Effect ]
ATK 2400 / DEF 2400
hearty meteor
Wait, is this the one you meant?
viscid bobcat
it's better than cyber dragon by a huge margin
and cyber dragon was enough to end goat format singlehandedly
fiery jungle
the fact that its last effect doesn't has OPT clause, like at all
Even Qixing Longyuan has it, and not even banish FD
weak patrol
You can only use each of the following effects of "Kashtira Fenrir" once per turn.
weak patrol
yeah the following/preceding clauses end up getting confusing sometimes
fiery jungle
If only it has OCG formatting so we know which eff has OPT/not at 1st glance
I assume that's gonna spent more ink money
modest oar
clever linden
honestly sad that they don't allow Indonesia, no Raydhen digimon tcg art 
I do like the teslajellymon art btw
Really fits her fighting game energy
Since she literally has shoto shit in the anime
bleak scroll
my summary for the duelist insert into duel spirit world story
As the Duel Monsters battle against a new force of darkness, they gamble everything to bring over the King of Games, who could turn the tide against the evil duelist spirits with his extraordinary dueling skills.
Unfortunately, they pulled a King from the wrong reality. Our reality. Alternating everyday between dueling dark spirits and fighting for his life alongside monsters, Shori Kagami struggles to be accepted in a world where the only dueling style he knows is frowned upon and the relationship between card and duelist is supposed to be more than just resources and the player.
Or
A meta retrospective through the duel spirit world on the Yugioh card game and what place "fun" has in a game where "victory" seems to matter the most
bleak scroll
Thoughts?
vivid coyote
small haven
Yeah, I just wanted to let you know... I think I've actually got my footing on this fanfic idea of mine.
lunar storm
open bridge
tfw about to post starting chapter of a fanfic but you feel like just shy of 2500 words is too short
golden summit
Word count is irrelevant
golden summit
Click it
clever pecan
A fanfic?
open bridge
First chapter of symphogeah fic posted
Feels good and now I’m gonna spend the day working on school shit
bleak scroll
https://twitter.com/Velleity_Art/status/1589339351363690496
so cool
modest oar
open bridge
and now that my fic is done it's time to write up a 4-10 page story for my workshop class by sunday
knotty ibex
https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/659179370912415754/1037347868396245063/...
That is not your Twitter Account right?
https://twitter.com/Life_of_Smitty/status/1589674976353062912?t=V1miMxOmYzCDzpbEyhgpzA&s=19
knotty ibex
Thanks for that. Cause the Guy I linked didn't credit Moon👍
clever linden
Yes
next cradle
Oooh okay trying to find it
clever linden
Oooh okay ~~trying to find it <:NotLikeSlowpoke:744921122142945430>~~
He posted it 6 days ago on discord, so dude had to have actively searched the discord to steal it unless it was on Reddit or something
modest oar
guess i should have slapped a watermark on it
knotty ibex
Yeah Probably
I posted a link to your Account under that one btw
modest oar
then again it does not matter. i didn't wanna post this on twitter for a reason
i just don't think it turned out good, not good as the Gammamon at least
next cradle
I think it turned out great
knotty ibex
I think it's really cute
modest oar
thanks guys but that does not really change how i feel that i could have done much better
clever linden
Just gonna say, that means either someone here is browsing and stole it and he found it
Or the dude is literally on this server and stole your post
Either way, fucking dick move
modest oar
i don't think they "stole" it's just a repost
knotty ibex
I mean if you compare it to the OG Design of Poochita I have honestly no Idea what you could have added to make it better. But I am shit at drawing so my Opinion has not much value to beginn with
viscid bobcat
yeah it looks really good
modest oar
modest oar
I mean if you compare it to the OG Design of Poochita I have honestly no Idea wh...
it's not what i could add, it's what i could refine
e.g. better pose, fix the leg, fix the shading, and less wonky flowers
knotty ibex
Ah ok. I thought you meant the Design itself
modest oar
here's an example of what I mean
knotty ibex
Now I know what you mean hmm
Maybe you could tilt the Head a bit more on Pochi so the Face looks a bit more complete? So that the second Snout "ball" is visible and maybe the Eye a bit bigger? Idk. Sorry if I am not much hellp
knotty ibex
That's why the other one is behind the Lance
stone mesa
he's like ''look no hands''
modest oar
limpid cargo
https://twitter.com/Velleity_Art/status/1589339351363690496
Ok, as a Vendread fan, that is badass AF 😱 😎
knotty ibex
modest oar
bat
open bridge
Really tempted to do a longer rewrite of an older original short story for class
Or do something properly original rather than remix of another original thing
Idk which way I wanna go
trim seal
where do you guys usually publish yugioh fanart? i only got a couple of facebook groups and reddit
i'm a small artist
next cradle
Twitter personally but there's deviantart and artstation or even insta but insta is hell
knotty ibex
Pixiv is a Option too
clever linden
Isn't that flooded by AI ir something
tropic brook
So is deviantart and artstation from what ive heard
knotty ibex
Isn't that flooded by AI ir something
In the Moment yes but I think they try to work around that. There are still some Assholes not tagging their Ai generated shit as such so there is that unfortuneally
I even saw someone using Ai Drawings for their Patreon
next cradle
clever linden
Cringe
wanton helm
help!!!
I need help with a pose
🥺
the big guy
its not dynamic enough
why is it a file
it's not supposed to be a file
modest oar
next cradle
it's not supposed to be a file
Might be easier to take a snip or something
knotty ibex
it's not supposed to be a file
Just take a Screenshot of it
eager sundial
Wanted to clarify something: am I allowed to share commissions I've gotten(with proper artist credit ofc) here or does it have to be my own art?
knotty ibex
If the Artist is Ok with it too sure I guess
next cradle
Yeah you can just kind of post anything you feel is art in here I find
Official card art and fanart from twitters gets posted here all the time
open bridge
Roze you are not subtle
charred flare
Got art of my tiefling/demon sisters recently.
golden summit
Broken horn
charred flare
Artist is the ever wonderful Grey/ArcaneMoon Studios. Link to her is spoiled as she occasionally does tasteful nudes.
||https://twitter.com/arcanemoonart?s=21&t=98VbGvsfSESmf2wKPBwnQg||
charred flare
Broken horn <:UmaruCry:594791362461696020>
It’s fine she’s thrivin’
golden summit
open bridge
I shall imagine she lost it goring a terf
charred flare
Names are Malacoda (the purple one) and Yumine (the red one). They’re my longest standing OC’s that still see use in creative writing and extremely rare D&D work.
clever pecan
Oooh, she is a netherlord. Er, netherlady?
tropic brook
When the abyss is burning!
golden summit
Dante beste deck 
charred flare
Being named after an apocryphal demon wasn’t meant to be permanent, t’was a temp name, it just kinda stuck over time lol
knotty ibex
Dante beste deck <:pogofgreed:562491300432314369>
Honorary Tour Guide Deck lel
golden summit
That and plant synchro
clever pecan
Being named after an apocryphal demon wasn’t meant to be permanent, t’was a temp...
Does she summon 2 smaller demons then overlay them into a wreath-wearing twink who is way too good at dodging the banlist?
stone mesa
not sure if there's any big artists here but i've got a question
what happens when you guys post something then suddendly someone is selling merch out of your art on ebay?
stone mesa
not an artist myself lol i cannot even use paint , saw a post about art theft on ebay and was kinda curious what you guys did if that happened
open bridge
that's the standard procedure I believe
vapid pewter
oh I had this happen a long time ago you can't really do anything but DMCA takedown and send them a C&D
C&D kinda pricey though wouldn't recommend bc they can just not comply unless you actually have that money to blow
they're never gonna compensate you so you just send DMCA takedowns and if you have clout ask followers to report it and say it's not yours
clever linden
https://twitter.com/RedactedPC/status/1591181950701940736 @fiery jungle @golden summit
golden summit
fiery jungle
open bridge
this is such a weird crossover
but it's funny how much art there is of junk warrior and hibiki
i mean i know why
clever pecan
I dont
open bridge
well that and uh
a sequence from the opening of the second season has some similiarites
and the 5ds director did the latter 4 seasons of symphogear
also rocket punches and scarves
clever pecan
Huh, neat
open bridge
yep
open bridge
it's because she's Junk
knotty ibex
and the 5ds director did the latter 4 seasons of symphogear
I did not know that. Cool
open bridge
yep
bleak scroll
trim seal
Finally after months i finished my dolche/twins art containing my main and favorite decks and girls from yugioh!
next cradle
vivid coyote
digging up old character concepts again
knotty ibex
Might be a Sonic Frontiers Spoiler for some
tired crystal
Made my own Titan for Frontiers
knotty ibex
Photoshopped some Official Art of Eggman together to get that Pose working
I also hid her Hands in the Sleeves because my attempts to draw Fingers looking slightly out from them looked like Shat
lunar storm
tired crystal
clever linden
yo Aloober the boober of doober
fiery jungle
bleak scroll
https://twitter.com/sasakura34/status/1591400293300076544
the first true evil rider
knotty ibex
Photoshopped some Official Art of Eggman together to get that Pose working
Progress
tired crystal
Redrew my old illustration of a new Number 96 form~ The one on the left is the new one
fiery jungle
Man I know this guy is some sort of doggo, but I still have a hard time looking at it
tired crystal
Wdym?
fiery jungle
Just can't make out which part is which when you look it from afar
modest oar
cool
knotty ibex
Looks cute. From what Insect is the Design?
modest oar
Dragonfly larvae
fringe fable
Exosister Mikhailis looks so damn awesome. 👌
bleak scroll
Dragonfly larvae
Ah yes, the demons that live in ponds
Kinda cool how both larva and adult stage of dragonflies are op af
modest oar
BA.I.nary Homeostasis
fiery jungle
modest oar
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small haven
Shorter, less packed chapter than usual. I gotta cool it down a bit before the big event.
vivid coyote
Why are people reading this
eager sundial
Every once in awhile my shitty fanfiction I made back in... like... elementary school will randomly get a kudos
knotty ibex
Wip for a Naturia Card
clever pecan
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