#Bushiroad games (Vanguard, Weiß Schwarz, etc)
grave cradle
tohya in thumbnail, and them hiding the ride line name in the tuesday preview is what lead to my earlier speculation
grave cradle
no rideline revealed, all a mystery
mortal hawk
And that’s why I’m sticking to Dear Days
grave cradle
Im building the 🐇 deck
mortal hawk
Nice
honest night
And that’s why I’m sticking to Dear Days
How is that $70 looking kid
west lion
Plus, I’m in the Uk
Hows that delivery fee from multiple card market sellers because no one has any stock here (I am in pain)
mortal hawk
Yikes. Meanwhile, I’m just chilling with Digimon cards
Which I get with next to no postage fees.
grave cradle
new hexorb but not really
grave cradle
it's top deck manipulation
spiral crest
Why is it every time bushi does something positive, they also do something that makes it a complete negative
This is what, the 3rd or 4th this in the last 6 months this happened?
grave cradle
hmm?
spiral crest
They announced a reprint set for the V and P formats together
The problem is that the set has a massive 340* card total, every pack is 3 cards and every box is 10 packs
So it’s insanely difficult to pull what you want out of it
Then they also doubled down and made it so old cards get erratas that will buff them
Which is going to nuke the secondary market
spiral crest
You shouldn’t buff cards in a physical card game because then it becomes a mess of what card actually does what. Yugioh erratas add opt effects and change the card in a way that it’s still recognizable. They’re talking about giving the cards brand new effects and changing their power. This makes even more of a mess because since it’s such a large set with a low chance to get what you want, the old copies that were out of print and unplayable, now get bought out and become difficult to acquire
static spire
Fair, fair.
I thought the issue might have been it would be another Blaster Dark moment but it seems they clarified you could use the old prints this time. Tho, still doesn't solve the issue of your cards not doing what they say they do.
snow oriole
has anyone bought the dlc in dear days yet on switch? if anyone has bought the first expansion separately, id like to know if they now have a decreased bundle price in the eshop. im not buying it separately unless i know, but i cant afford the bundle right now
snow oriole
it looks like for free dlc they added some SDs. lianorn, drajeweled, and protofall. any thoughts on these
spiral crest
Idk if they added the booster sets but youthberk becomes top tier later
snow oriole
hmm interesting. that's the only one I haven't tried yet. lianorn seemed too simple to me. stochwhatever is my least played nation I admit, but it feels like a lot of their styles are similar and straightforward, just flood and and attack with stat modification. idk. I wasn't into it. drajeweled was cool in that it wanted varying ranks as opposed to the usual dark states soul stacking, but it was so easy to fulfill that it didn't feel that unique to me. but I enjoyed it more than lianorn. idk if I've settled on a favorite for those nations yet, or the dragon one. whatever it's called
spiral crest
I have drajeweled for irl play but it's waiting on a promo to become good good on our side
it's way too counterblast heavy though
lianorn needs set 7 to be at least rogue level but the deck gets eclipsed by other stochiea decks
snow oriole
oh damn if it's still waiting for a promo irl then there's prob no chance of it hitting DD huh
and I have to assume their price gouging will ensure no localized sequel lol
what does lianorn get in set 7
spiral crest
there's this grade 3 dragon
that puts itself intosoul after it attacks to restand a rearguard
so it's an easy way to get 4 attacks and 2 boostys off
on 1 column
snow oriole
@spiral crest yo do you have any idea what my order ratios should be in cardinals
spiral crest
<@121831661284360192> yo do you have any idea what my order ratios should be in ...
I don’t play orphist sorry, that’s a question for @sharp forum
sharp forum
3 both is good amount for those two orders
snow oriole
3 both is good amount for those two orders
thank you! but it seems there's 4 orders? idk which to run
sharp forum
oh right I forgot about that
it's 3 copies of each: Beyond the Perpetual Time, Eclipsed Moon Light and Melt in the Darkness, it's Evil Heart
sharp forum
it's from some Macross
snow oriole
that explains it, im a macross fan
snow oriole
wow flagburg just does not have the resources it needs to use its effects does it
it also feels like the deck can barely play until grade 3?
am i missing anything
snow oriole
man I was looking at DD's upcoming dlc again. it seems to me that two of these are sets and two of these are SDs or something? since the bundle is $70 i wonder how much they'll charge for the SDs lol
also I don't know if the origin release schedule implies more free content as well, such as those 3 SDs I posted about the other day. I hope so just for more cards to waste time on
west lion
Vanguard fans will buy literally anything
*provided it's an anime archetype or has waifus
spiral crest
What deck do I play tonight 
grave cradle
What deck do I play tonight <:snootboop:503436404638875670>
D-BT010/073 C 2023 | ヴォールハイマー・ドラゴン | Vohlheimer Dragon
Grade 3 | Normal Unit | Brandt Gate - Cyber Dragon | Persona Ride
[Power] 13000
[CONT][:RC:]:During your turn, this unit gets [Power]+2000 for Dragontree marker on your :RC:.
dragontree brandt support
snow oriole
managed to save up enough to afford blazing dragon reborn in DD tomorrow. sick. hope the Brandt gate additions are fun
also good timing with the new card lol
so I'm messing around with alestiel. correct me if I'm wrong but couldn't you build this with only white or black wing cards and be better off?
mortal hawk
Aside from Gems, I want these.
Clarissa and Earnescorrect can break the AI in Dear Days
snow oriole
Clarissa and Earnescorrect can break the AI in Dear Days
how so?
grave cradle
New Messiah is a 5 attack deck that draws 3
spiral crest
They didn’t nerf the crest so we have to relive this hell
snow oriole
beat the main story of DD. won with orfist. final boss was a real asshole lol
also got the dlc but haven't been able to use any of it yet because you need to buy the packs in game....
I noticed lianorn has a new grade 3. that was fast
spiral crest
I noticed lianorn has a new grade 3. that was fast
For the new trial decks, all of them have a trial deck version and a core set version. Both drajewel and Youthberg don’t use their trial deck versions but Lianorn uses both since they count as either card when persona riding
mortal hawk
I think they both also count since some lists use d6 youthberg and 1 of the trial deck ones in the ride deck.
snow oriole
btw should I be running the grade 4 magnolia in every stoicheia deck? because in-game lists keep doing it
spiral crest
The card is good but it’s not splash in every deck good
The default staple stochiea cards are inlet pulse dragon and the g1 order that revives a card for 1 soulblast
snow oriole
oh I didn't know that, thank you. tbh in general I have no idea what most staple cards are lol
spiral crest
Yeah staples have been starting to finally show up in the format and what I’ve been pushing for in the game
They’ve been wasting the nation mechanic and falling down the same path as the last 2 formats
snow oriole
how do you mean? like people staying too close to theme and forgoing generics in their nation?
brave kindle
iirc this was an issue in Buddyfight to a degree
honestly the biggest concern for me is a lack of budget, low rarity ridelines
spiral crest
Like the company (bushiroad) originally had the game split into 24 clans and had to only support 5-6 of them per set. Sometimes you’d go a whole year without support while other clans got support multiple times a year which led to favoritism. Some of the worst selling sets in the game were because they bundled all the undesirable/under supported clans into 1 pack. After the second reboot, the changed to nations so now no matter what deck you play, you’d at least be guaranteed support every set in the form of generics (think how every time a new generic ht/staple comes out in yugioh, you could use it for past rogue decks to make them somewhat playable. The problem that D had for a year or so was that they weren’t making good generic nation staples so every deck up to a point were just using card’s specifically for their strategy.
This leads to deck building being almost non existent since decks build themselves and new decks not having anything to work off of besides the cards they have when released. When we finally got more generic nation support, they kind of broke the game but it’s up to debate whether the issue was Inlet or Magnolia. Now every nation should have 1-2 generic options that you can plug into any deck (combine rusher, inlet, brainwash swirler), DE is kind of lacking but they’ll get something better than the RRR they got in DBT08 soon.
Sorry for the essay but basically D has/had a lot of potential but the company is just very slow at fixing it’s flaws
I’m very much in favor of ride lines and nations. Old vanguard was plagued by not having both and it reduces the number of “non-games” significantly. They still need to fix deck building rules and card design, and also axe the OT in competitive play. Promos and reprints should also be changed how they’re given out.
snow oriole
I see. 24 clans sounds fucking nuts lol
I have definitely tried to find good tech options in decks but whether it's my limited experience or not, most generics just seem really bad
they won't gain any advantage, will be strictly inferior to archetype options, or their effects will be super bland and not impactful like +5000 attack to one rear guard. nothing to assist a strat there necessarily
sharp forum
while I did like Clans I do admit that having 6 nations with ride lines that do same things as those Clans did works better
snow oriole
speaking of generics, they added enucleate angel and it seems seems good for thegrea, is it?
sharp forum
granted my favourite Clan always got new cards once a year in it's own extra booster/clan booster so....
brave kindle
honestly I've warmed up to the concept of Nations but god
Bushi constantly feels like they don't know what the fuck they're doing
literally not even 4 sets in they already jumped right back to a nostalgia bait rideline
sharp forum
like it or not classic units like Blaster Blade and Draconic Overlord are always going to be part of CFV no matter what era or format
spiral crest
speaking of generics, they added enucleate angel and it seems seems good for the...
Sounds useable yeah. A very good keter sanc staple is the g2 maple
A rearguard that recurs itself for free every turn is just way too good to pass up on
snow oriole
yeah I do have her. she's great fuel for effects too
snow oriole
damn b-hero is pretty fun. probably one of the least linear decks I've seen. feels like there's a lot of different resources to consider at just the right amounts
sharp forum
while Dragon Tree of Ruin seems slow it also looks like it could be a lot of fun to play
grave cradle
sharp forum
ah nice, more support for Lyricals
west lion
Anyone know of some cheap v series archetypes? Doesn't have to be good just playable
spiral crest
I don't keep up with V sorry
steam maiden is probably cheap[ and still playable though
west lion
Ty
grave cradle
gonna get a budget version of Bavsargra
snow oriole
I was sad there was no bavsarga support in the DD dlc
static spire
When it boosts and has a Dragontree marker under it, Soulcharge 1 and this unit gets +5000 until end of battle.
There was another Dark States card revealed specifically for Griphogila.
Well, it doesn't specifically name it but it might as well, since the atk boost does jack shit for grade 4s and lower.
Think they'll do Grif enablers for all the nations. Considering how bad it's looking rn, it gonna need a lot of help.
spiral crest
What’s the point of grade 1 units in the deck if you can’t call anything until turn 3 lol
static spire
Boost. 
Also, of the Grif builds I've seen the best one does seem to be just slap down Esperdia so, it's truly just summon biggest grade and pray.
grave cradle
cotd 2/20
Bachelor of Inspiration, Intilas
Keter Sanctuary
AUTO When placed on RC from your deck, this unit gets 10k Power until end of turn.
spiral crest
Lmao these errata’s are just so fucking broken for the format
Now you don’t need your opponent to be at g3 to stride them, can do it immediately at first g3 ride, get 2 gift markers, and they make the on hit effects guaranteed
Literally why
Example of errated card:
Trigger with update Shield and
Trigger effect!
Sample updated effect:
Activate: If your VG is
a G3 " Aerial divine knight Altmile"
and you have not gain Imaginary
gift during this fight, [Cost]{Discard
cards from your hand with a total
grade of 3 or more from hand},
Stride this card onto your VG from
face down, in addition [Cost]{Flip
a card with the same name as this
unit from your Gzone to face up},
you get 2 Imaginary gift.
Continuous: This unit's
original "When hit" effect can be
activated even if the attack did
not hit.
west lion
Now you don’t need your opponent to be at g3 to stride them, can do it immediate...
What the fuck
west lion
I'm very certain that every deck would be able to fit in 2 slots in their G zone
spiral crest
you have to use the old ones at least
The problem is that there isn’t enough of a trade off between old grade 3s and newer ones besides the 2k power difference
Trading power for the ability to always stride is insanely strong
The strides giving you 2 gifts is also just bonkers for no reason
static spire
If they are errataing it anyway, why not change the on atk skill to end of battle instead of this weird On hit do X, also Your on hits work even if you don't hit.
static spire
On that note tho, Crits getting more shield makes sense but did they really need Crits to be buffed to also Draw?
spiral crest
you think they actual test this shit?
brave kindle
On that note tho, Crits getting more shield makes sense but did they really need...
wait what
static spire
New errataed crits have updated power/shield but also draw on damage check.
brave kindle
wtffff
honest night
New errataed crits have updated power/shield but also draw on damage check.
Does this effect every crit trigger ever printed?
static spire
No.
They are reprinting some old crits with new numbers/effs.
Seems to be G Era crits with a skill that need X named Vanguard.
brave kindle
oh
the way you worded that, I thought you meant like
it was a crit and draw trigger combined
static spire
They all gained a auto eff on damage check draw a card. So, half a draw trigger.
grave cradle
I think I've come to the conclusion I will be playing Alestiel
spiral crest
Teasing spiritualist Zorga Masques
G3/ POWER: 13000/ GUARD: 0
Persona ride
[Continuous]: You can only ride this
card onto a G3 with "Zorga" in name.
Continuous: When you play a
normal order, you may bind 1 normal
order from drop to Alchemagic.
Continuous: If you have
Alchemagic during this turn, all units
in your front row gets POWER: 10000.
Activate[Once per turn]: [Cost]
{Remove card with different name
and with "Zorga" in name from
hand, soul or drop}, choose 1 card
from drop, if it's a normal unit call
it onto a RG circle, if it's normal
order add it to hand.
spiral crest
Dragon tree marker other name finally got revealed
They either proc off the dragon tree itself or Masques cards
So all the stuff from before starts to finally make sense
We’re most likely getting a new orphist and lianorn this set with masques in their name
brave kindle
so is the "Masques" sorta like corruption again or willing turncoats?
spiral crest
I think both
I think lore wise Lianorn and that new grade 3 dark states unit both willingly align with the tree. Drajeweled loses to the tree and gets corrupted or something
Zorga I think is williningly joining
static spire
Want to know what the Masques Order does exactly.
Just slap your Grade 3 on top and treat it as persona ride is wild. Wonder if that means you can do double persona into 20k to front row.
grave cradle
Just slap your Grade 3 on top and treat it as persona ride is wild. Wonder if th...
I mean, it doesnt care about name for alchemagic on the new one 👀
hint hint double masque order alchemagic'd together
static spire
We'll have to see the exact wording on the Masque order.
Tho, Triple Persona Ride being possible would be funny.
sharp forum
based on what we have already seen in anime Masque does seem to have potential
grave cradle
static spire
If you have a grade 3 or greater set order, this gains 5k during your turns.
spiral crest
Vanguard card design 10+ years after release: Power +5000
sharp forum
art for that card is very cute
fluid garnet
@spiral crest stacking force 2s with the crest vs opp's grade 2 gonna do things to me
spiral crest
<@121831661284360192> stacking force 2s with the crest vs opp's grade 2 gonna do...
Probs tied with overtrigger for worst change to a format
Like literally why would you make this change
fluid garnet
prem messiah also goes insane now
spiral crest
First g3 ride, 2 accel markers, 2 draws+ at minimum 5+ attacks to a 9000-10000 g2 vg
Like ??????)))
fluid garnet
have fun with 2 40k force 2 swings at g2
grave cradle
grave cradle
https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/cardfight/images/b/b4/D-BT10-044-R_%28Sample%2...
D-BT10/044 R 2023 | 凶星の檻 | Cage of the Ill-omened
Grade 3 | Normal Order | Dark States
Soul Charge (1), choose a grade 3 or less card from your soul, call it to , and it gets [Power]+5000 until end of turn.
spiral crest
Genesis Dragon, Excelics Messiah
[Stride] -Stride Step-[COST][Discard a grade 3 card with "Messiah" in its card name from hand], and [Stride] this card on your (VC) from face down.
[AUTO] (VC)[Generation Break 2]:When this unit attacks, [COST][Counter-Blast 1], choose any number of any player's locked cards, and unlock them. If you unlocked a card, choose the same number of your rear-guards as the number of cards unlocked by this ability, [Stand] them, and until the end of turn, all of your front row units get [Power]+10000, and this unit gets [Critical]+1.
@fluid garnet messiah meta speed run any %
This+crest is 20000 boost to the front
Multi attack too
grave cradle
Masque of Hydragrum
Grade 3 | Normal Order | Nationless!
Look at the top five cards of your deck, choose up to one unit card with "Dragontree" or "Masques" in its card name from among them, reveal it and put it into your hand, and shuffle your deck.
ACT:If you have a grade 3 vanguard without "Masques" in its card name, [COST][reveal a grade 3 card with "Masques" in its card name from hand], and ride the card revealed for this cost as [Stand]. If you rode, put this card into the soul, if your opponent's vanguard is grade 3 or greater, and you did not persona ride this turn, you activate persona ride.
the on play is a consistency skill to 😱
grave cradle
sadly
but at least you can Persona ride with this in drop and even get a soul out of it
and I do literally mean persona ride
grave cradle
New Eva and Thegrea soon.
what the thegrea gonna do 
3 way persona ride?
static spire
Hopefully, be good. Last couple cards weren't esp. great. 
Eva gets a free summon from top 5, and Thegrea has to CB to draw, and needs like a Dark in Soul and one in hand + 2 CB to really pop off with new order.
grave cradle
yea
static spire
Speaking of Eva's order tho. Brandt gate's generic set orders have gotten pretty good to the point that Monster Grade 3 which grabs any number of set orders from Top 5 (or was it 7) looks real fun.
Doesn't seem that good, but deck thinning out the ass so you're left with mostly triggers and 4 attacks looks fun. 
This one.
fluid garnet
new brandt staple just dropped
static spire
Which card?
fluid garnet
@static spire
static spire
YO.
west lion
scytheblade
Nah this shits a mf starvader
Bought 5 boxes of my glorious justice for less than £10 a box
snow oriole
wow that card
spiral crest
Very good card
Brandt gate has been eating good since the start of the foemat
And now I kind of want to@build monsters irl
grave cradle
question, do we know the lyrical booster set 3 price?
for dear days that is 
cuz like, I may HAVE to get dear days
spiral crest
wonder when we'll get a non set order related brandt gate strategy
spiral crest
what am I looking at
spiral crest
are we like sure
grave cradle
yes
grave cradle
"Main units", this is a 100% for sure in then
spiral crest
Wow they actually balanced something for once
Making the masque order a g3 prevents abuse with this
grave cradle
Making the masque order a g3 prevents abuse with this
how so?
spiral crest
the new zorga can only be ridden over an old zorga g3. Awakening wheeze only adds orders witha grade equal to your vg or less. Since the masque order is g3, you can't add it off wheeze until your g3 turn to prevent any turn 1 masque ride scenarios and stop multi attack nonsense the new cards promote
static spire
You can't do Turn 1 Masque stuff anyway since Masque checks is you are on Grade 3/New Zorga being ridden only on a Zorga anyway.
Fwiw, you still get it to Drop and that's the important eff anyway.
grave cradle
as K said, you get it into drop which is the important part
grave cradle
ooh new cardprotag video 😮
sharp forum
yeah he is back to CFV
spiral crest
Xeno Almajestar Astroea=Bico Masques
G3/ POWER: 13000/ GUARD: 0
Persona ride
[Continuous]: You can only ride this
card onto a G3 with "Astroea" in name.
Activate[Once per turn]: [Cost]
{Remove 1 card with different name
and with "Astroea" in name from
hand, soul or drop}, choose an
opponent's RG, retire it and this
unit gets Drive +1 during this turn.
Auto: When this unit attacks,
[Cost]{CB1, SB3}, bind all Critical
trigger SBed for the cost, choose
1 of your RG, stand it, for every 2
Critical trigger in your bind zone,
during this turn that unit and this
unit gets POWER +5000.
Deck is finally playable now
grave cradle
a lot of money down the drain, I have dear days now
spiral crest
west lion
When the meta is stale 
Still no where near as bad as vanguard has been but it's not a great look
sharp forum
like every TCG ever doesn't have stale metas time to time
but yes let's blame CFV from that alone
west lion
when did I bring other tcgs into this, I like vanguard but bushiroad are awful at balancing and always have been, I'm not saying other card games are better or worse at it than them
brave kindle
Mecha you're weirdly hostile towards people whenever anyone says anything even remotely negative about Vanguard
west lion
Like Yu-Gi-Oh has had bad meta's, MTG has, Pokémon has etc etc, but vanguard has consistently had issues with printing too strong cards and then instead of addressing them, they just shift the power curb to match them (much like Yu-Gi-Oh)
spiral crest
In another 16 topping lists for 3v3 tournaments, all but 1 singular team had a Chronojet and/or Messiah on their team’s line up. D wasn’t ready for crests
sharp forum
oh don't let me started on what kind of mess YGO meta tends to be
fluid garnet
@spiral crest ok so we reboot vanguard right, with a whole new lore/anime
The best decks include chronojet, overlord, messiah and collabs
sharp forum
seriously though it seems to me like most people come here just to complain about Bushi and how bad they are handling they games while at same time those same people defend WotC and everything that they do like hypocrites
west lion
I love vanguard, I play it even though the game is almost entirely dead in this country, the main thing I'm upset about is 1 VR per box
spiral crest
I love playing vanguard and don’t even play any WoTC games, I just think bushi has been doing all the wrong actions for a game that’s very close to being an acceptable one
They’re slowly killing their own game with each decision
brave kindle
I don't see how defending MTG for what genuine good things it has is hypocritical either
like yeah if they point to the 30th anniversary stuff you'd have a point but if its just general praise of MTG for the few things it gets decently right(like balance) than nah
brave kindle
Honestly my biggest issue with Bushi's current set design isn't even how balls to the wall insane they go with power creep
its when they feel the need to make entire decks RRR and promos
Like... legit name one relavent rideline that is not RRR or VR
you just can't
there are practically no budget options for deck building that doesn't involve building dumb shit like Gun Salute Dragon turbo
and a lot of decks(even now) just kinda build themselves
I find outside of jank meme builds there's almost 0 creativity in deckbuilding, its just "find the best cards, put best cards into deck, play 1-2 tech choices of your choosing"
grave cradle
also I didnt know you could get VP in dear days online, good to note
cuz I like that
grave cradle
the monetization is yikes
honest night
Theres plenty of creative deckbuilding to be done in Premium
brave kindle
now granted that's not inherently a bad thing but the problem is when the game is inaccessible to new players due to a price barrier AND boring to play because decks build themselves and there's very little interaction with your opponent
grave cradle
the only upside, you can try multiple decks
brave kindle
it turns a lot of people off from the game as a whole
honest night
I love it when P decks get to use G era triggers
brave kindle
this is a problem with Bushi's design philosophy in general tbh
even Buddyfight had this issue
honest night
Or when they get to play a starter that isnt in V
brave kindle
and Buddyfight's powercreep was even more rampant than most
I remember I wanted to build that "equip as many cards as you want" deck but then I saw the price of Laevantin
was like.... $40-50 at the time iirc
and you needed 5
honest night
DPs optimal starter in P may very well be Enigman fucking Flow
And I think thats really cool
brave kindle
like Bushi loves to push decks into neat little corners where everything is so xenophobic that you have to run all the pieces but at the same time not crossing that thin line where a deck just becomes "archetypename.dek"
honest night
I've seen lots of pushback on nationwide staples tho
Painkillers, Inlet Pulses, Brainwashes, etc
brave kindle
You can't build Majesty Lord without the Blasters, Garga without the G Evo forms, Chaos without Geargod, Sun Dragon without Bal, etc but there's still a lot of cards that you run even though its not any of the named mons
brave kindle
Painkillers, Inlet Pulses, Brainwashes, etc
isn't that mostly because the supply isn't meeting the demand
honest night
Thats one of them
And idk I just dont like it when decks are just goodstuff
And like 10 cards that contribute to your unique trait
brave kindle
Honestly Vanguard needs more generics that's the biggest issue with the game rn
honest night
Every deck already has to run 16 triggers and 4 PGs
brave kindle
investing into multiple decks breaks your wallet because almost nothing carries over
aside from nation OTs and occasionally trigger lineup
I spend easily $300 on Nightrose V over the course of a few years and then when I wanted to build something new like Majesty Lord woops there went another $200
honest night
Idk
brave kindle
Like I get what you mean but I feel like there's an ideal balance to be had
honest night
I kinda like not every deck including the same selection of autoincludes in their deck
Especially when nearly half of every deck size is already running the same few cards
brave kindle
between "no generics so everything is xenophobic towards itself" and "so generic every deck runs the same 5 cards"
west lion
Me trying to get copies of dailiner when the deck is objectively bad (it is £16 a copy)
sharp forum
unlike YGO CFV does have formats that are supported
that's something that people tend to forget and only focus on standard
premium offers lot of options and tends to be favoured by veteran players for allowing to use they old cards and is rather popular
on other hand V premium isn't that popular since it only allows cards from V era but I do tend to like it over premium myself even as veteran player
grave cradle
can ya delete the gif? It's a bit flashy
west lion
can ya delete the gif? It's a bit flashy
you got it
spiral crest
Black sky thunder quaking queen Leimina
G2/ POWER: 10000/ GUARD: 5000
[Auto]: When discarded during ride
phase, [Cost]{SB1, return this card
back to the bottom of the deck},
draw 1.
[Auto]: When this unit enters the
RG circle from hand and you have
persona ride during this turn, [Cost]
{CB1, choose 1 from your soul, call
it onto a RG circle. If called, you
may SC1.
Seems like every nation is going to get one
grave cradle
Me, not knowing when they added equipment to vanguard
It's exclusive to 1 deck (until set 11 which has been teased to include the new manga ride lines one of which uses the same gimmick as this deck)
west lion
I see
grave cradle
they are called "arms orders", you can put one down each turn like any other arms (Unless a skill says otherwise) and you are allowed a left and a right one
they stay armed even if you ride a new vanguard (But if it isnt bavsargra, they go to drop)
example: The two I have equipped are
Bavsargra herself wants to get two armed ASAP so she can use her second effect for a front row nuke https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/cardfight/images/3/32/D-SD06-001EN_(Sample).png/revision/latest?cb=20220117073312
west lion
The connected art is cool
west lion
I just bavsargra's main ability
What the fuck I thought they made standard to curb the power level
what do you mean retire all front rows and get a critical for basically no cost
grave cradle
havent seen the best part, she has a little friend that she wants boosting her quickly
she isnt even the most expensive card, this guy is
grave cradle
25k*
also the cost is baked into the order arms of which this guy makes free-ish
so yeah its a fun control deck, very defensive with plenty of pressure
and yes the shield's +10k opt is every opponents turn, it doesn't put itself to drop
west lion
what do you mean the deck is also not that bad to buy bushiroad my V gavrails were £15 each and that format isn't even played please
west lion
grave cradle
yes, it's effectively a trigger when it comes to guarding after a while (d standard so they discarding to ride from ride deck means at least 3 in drop once they hit g3, but definitely more cuz you bully RGs)
grave cradle
you wanna see its price?
west lion
I like that tbh means you can play the deck and get a feel for it
grave cradle
cuz start deck g3, versus a triple rare
west lion
Then upgrade later
grave cradle
true
grave cradle
yeah the start decks are pretty cheap for d series
and a cute thing about the deck (in dear-days), the field normally isnt that wide. The game widens the playing field once it gets armed
west lion
Wait a minute I see that aahitya is double rare, I see you bushiroad
grave cradle
blessed spear 
, needs a reprint though
most times you arm the spear since it speeds out your shield (the shield is easily accessed through riding the regular rideline so dont have to worry about drawing the shield)
cuz 2 arms means nuking time
grave cradle
Holy shit, new Hexaorb lookin' spook.
5 attack deck
spiral crest
Masque Lianorn and Drajeweled confirmed
brave kindle
Wtf? This actually works somehow.
genuinly dumb shit like this is what the game needs
its tiring how every single deck is centralized around ridelines still
give me dumb shit that shouldn't work like this
static spire
I'm fine with Ridelines.
The biggest issue, if any, I have with D is how the decks autobuild themselves, imo.
brave kindle
I think the idea of flavor ties ridelines that support themselves and form themselves into decks is fine but when its how EVERY deck is built? nah
I remember in V I graviated towards dumb shit like the Granblue pile and Gun Salute Dragon turbo
static spire
You can't really solve that, tho.
Since whatever non-ride pile you have would be 100% improved by playing any rando ride line or a dedicate deck.
brave kindle
I'm not saying its a problem that needs to be solved it just peeves me how little variety and skill expression there is in deckbuilding
static spire
Unless you make units specifically designed around not having a ride deck or smthg.
I think, that could be solved with a couple more generics and fewer super specific auto includes, tbh. If you have atleast 20 slots with which you can customize your deck, that'd do a lot of work.
Rideline + Triggers + PGs is already half your deck, so every super specific auto 4of makes each version of X deck super samey.
static spire
Thinking on it, maybe bringing back Trigger PGs and Effect Triggers that aren't just extra shield if X could help in that regard.
Tho, the second one could fall into the same Super specific support pitfall, and instead of it being a choice between 2-4 generic good effs on a Trigger, you get say Crits with effs in Bind to work with the Soulblast and Bind Crits Vanguard, then you get back into the Not a real choice issue/every version of X deck is the same + More cost of your deck is now non-transferable.
static spire
The Monster that searches any places any number of set orders in top 5 also looks fun.
Erdogram or smthg.
west lion
perfect guard
grave cradle
its jank, but fun and cheap jank. Pretty much every card in the archetype is 10 cents
brave kindle
tbh I'm not interested in Shaman King enough to want to touch it in Vanguard
spiral crest
Sheesh
Servitude of funeral procession Lianorn Masques
G3/ POWER: 13000/ GUARD: 0
Persona ride
[Continuous]: You can only ride this
card onto a G3 with "Lianorn" in
name.
Activate[Once per turn]: [Cost]
{Remove 1 card with different name
and with "Lianorn" in name from
hand, soul or drop}, choose and
call a G1 from your drop onto a RG
circle, choose and retire an
opponent's RG.
Auto: When this unit attacks,
choose up to 3 standing units with
"Boost" in your back row, boost
this unit with them. If boosted by 3
or more, at the end of the battle,
[Cost]{CB1}, choose and stand 2
of your RG.
Holy fuck this is cracked
6 attack Lianorn is real
sharp forum
so far none of crossover sets in CFV has interested me and Shaman King is no exception to that
oh well at least my wallet thanks me
grave cradle
"Ok resonance dragon, turn around and think of the pretty butterflies"
grave cradle
6 attack Lianorn is real
how 6?
grave cradle
Rg1, rg2, Lianorn, rg3, rg4, grand march dragon restand the other rg, rg5
grand march dragon?
spiral crest
Whatever the g3 card for liarnorn that puts into soul to restand a rg
grave cradle
Doesnt work
spiral crest
Yeah that
grave cradle
It doesnt work hence
spiral crest
Why
grave cradle
"Ok resonance dragon, turn around and think of the pretty butterflies"
.
"boost a total of 5 times"
grave cradle
yeah
brave kindle
some buddyfight stuff got reccomended to me in my music and video feed and now I'm sad
west lion
Does anyone got any Overdress series decks (or whatever series ig) that can be built cheap?
west lion
Awesome ty
grave cradle
yw, most of the main cards are like 10 cents so should be very cheap to make
grave cradle
We got Lianorn masque officially revealed this morning, also
Next week the lyricals be monasterio, Festimagica, Wilista and related cards from Festival Booster 2023 will be revealed
along with Touken Ranbu's second collab set for the D series
static spire
Cannot Intercept + Your opponent's front row rears can't stand next turn.
Only does the thing on Persona Ride turn, so it's prob fine.
spiral crest
They might not see play besides the Keter and Brandt ones
Persona ride is a pretty hefty condition
static spire
Feel like you can play them just for the early plus, no?
spiral crest
The thing is that deck space is already so tight
static spire
Fair, fair.
spiral crest
So you’re playing these just for discards that have an effect on turn 4 like a pseudo-GB card
mortal hawk
Keter would probably be the most consistent to pull off
For decks like Hexaorb and Thegrea.
sharp forum
Hexaorb should be cheap
mortal hawk
Oh definitely.
mortal hawk
And, with her new form, it’ll be even easier
static spire
Was wondering how they'll make the worst deck of Overdress cast win against a Masque player. And then they made a Counter charger for Yuyu.
honest night
Bushi really knows how to build up suspense with Urara
Was REALLY thinking she was gonna sack an OT at the end
sharp forum
never underestimate protagonist powers
just like Aichi, Yu-yu tends to win when it counts most
grave cradle
that's 152 packs worth, and the grind is still not done
when Lyrical set 3 is up in the eshop, Im dropping all of this VP on it (after spending 20 dollars to buy the dlc)
static spire
mortal hawk
YEP localization
Or Rasen is one of those guys who says Men and Females lol
I think, right now, I have about 150,000 VP
Or close to it
mortal hawk
Which deck are you thinking of making first?
Side note, I was hoping Petraka would be one of the promos
static spire
Festimagica, Wilista
G3 13000
DressUp - "Prismagica, Wilista" (During this Fight, this is also treated as the mentioned card)
AUTO: When this unit is placed on VC, [COST Discard 1 from hand], choose 1 Gem card from your soul or drop zone and add it to your hand.
ACT, VC, 1/Turn: [COST SB 1 Gem card], and perform the following abilities based on the card name of the card soulblasted for this cost:
"Everlasting Sapphire" - Look at the top 5 cards of your deck, choose up to 2 Unit Cards from amongst them, call them to RC, then shuffle your deck.
"Truehearted Ruby" - This unit gets power plus 15k until the end of the turn.
(Additional note: By ruling, you're allowed to have this and the old Wilista in the same deck, as they are only treated as having the same name during the Fight itself, so it does not affect deckbuilding ratios. Similarly, riding this on top of the old Wilista and vice-versa will count as a Persona ride. However, this card's original card name is not treated as the same as Prismagica Wilista, with regards to Trixie's skill)
Full Marks for Exhilarating Energy, Trixie
G2 10000
Lyrical Monasterio/Human
CONT, RC: If you played a Gem order this turn and your opponent's vanguard is G3 or greater, this unit gets power plus 5k.
AUTO: When this unit is placed on RC, if you have a G3 or greater vanguard with "Wilista" in its card name, [COST Put 1 card from your hand to soul], look at the top 5 cards of your deck, choose up to 2 Grade 3 cards from amongst them with "Wilista" in their different original card names, reveal them and add them to your hand, then shuffle your deck. If you did not reveal, draw 1.
Crossing Illumirays
G1 Normal Order
Lyrical Monasterio/Normal Order/Gem
CONT: During this fight, this card is also treated as "Truehearted Ruby" and "Everlasting Sapphire".
Play this card if you have a vanguard with "Wilista" in its card name!
Put this card to soul, draw 1, choose one of your vanguards, it gets power plus 5k until the end of the turn, and if your opponent's vanguard is G3 or greater, it also gets "AUTO, VC: When this unit attacks, [COST CB1, SB1 Grade 3 card with "Wilista" in its card name], choose one of your rearguards, and stand it" until the end of the turn. You cannot play orders this turn.
Dress Up is prob how all 5 retrains are gonna be. Wonder if same is true for the Glitter G3s we're getting. A copy of Thegrea that counts as both names is gonna be wild.
mortal hawk
Wow. Willista got something fun
and the new option? Yes
I’m having a Harry met Sally moment over these effect and Willista is my least favourite lyrical deck
grave cradle
Will we finally get another Earnescorrect unit?
technically two for RGs
well "for rg"
static spire
They could be 10000 and it wouldn't matter if they aren't names since the quantity of names should still be more, and arguably better ones.
grave cradle
if Wilista pattern is to be followed, you'll run both G3s and both will have Earnescorrect in their name so you can call them to RG to fill 1 name
but very much a just because you can doesnt mean you should
static spire
Doesn't the order require different names?
What was it called? Aim to be the Number one Idol or smthg?
Play this if you have five or more units with "Earnescorrect" in their different card names!
Ye, doesn't work with Dress Up.
grave cradle
Doesn't the order require different names?
true but remember
what's to say they wont just make one that counts different original names.
mortal hawk
Frankly, all they need to do is upgrade one of the OG Earnescorrect so they can be another name
Seriously, that’s the hill they die on?
sharp forum
it does remind me of highlander from V era not to mention that one BT stride from G era
mortal hawk
Petrarca seems more fitting for the Highlander road
If anything, Earnescorrect feels more like if Brawlers and Melody had a baby
sharp forum
you could be right about that
mortal hawk
Melody was that keyword where all units with that keyword shared the same abilities. The “sit still and look pretty” cards.
sharp forum
yup and it was IMO what Harmony should had been
mortal hawk
Whereas Earnescorrect would be an archetype if more cards were allowed the name.
Eh, I like friends and harmony the same.
Melody was one of the reasons I departed from V.
It was just so dull.
sharp forum
I still have my Melody deck around but it got out performed by both Riviere and Prism later on
mortal hawk
I mean, one was Rivière. That deck was just a monster
I am still rather mixed on what happened with Raindear and highlander but I can get behind it.
mortal hawk
At this point, when anyone says something is broken in a card game, I want to agree but it feels like when people react to a queen doing a split on drag race
sharp forum
most before oD I was faithful to Bermuda but in oD I chose not to go with Lyrical
instead I ended up going with Seraph Snow
sharp forum
shame that one of her key cards is promo so getting full powered deck for her IRL isn't that cheap
grave cradle
If anything, Earnescorrect feels more like if Brawlers and Melody had a baby
I've literally made the brawler joke about them before
I wonder when the eshop is going to update, I desperately want to throw my VP at over 300 packs
sharp forum
then again there is also her G4 form that is must have if you want to play her
mortal hawk
Yeah. That’s why I didn’t really mind the Dear Days pricing. It’s still extortionate but cheaper than building the decks IRL
grave cradle
facts
mortal hawk
Besides, my physical tcg at the moment is Digimon
sharp forum
are you on Beck's Digimon TCG server?
mortal hawk
And it’s significantly cheaper to make decks in that.
I don’t think so. I’m on one of the Digimon servers
sharp forum
official one?
sharp forum
I chose that smaller one on purpose
plus person who is in charge of it helped Prof with Digimon tutorial
mortal hawk
That’s fair. For standard, I’d say, pre lb3, Eva, Hexaorb and Kairi are my current favourites
sharp forum
maybe some day I get around making that Magnolia deck
mortal hawk
Magnolia is nice. I just don’t have much enthusiasm for it
sharp forum
one guy that I know plays Zolga in oD because he always played Granblue before that
mortal hawk
I could see that. Granblue was the first deck I made.
For me, Feltyrosa feels more like that
Well, her and the marching band
sharp forum
honestly I do find myself liking premium and V premium more than standard
mortal hawk
Yeah, there’s a lot more bells and whistles in the premium formats
mortal hawk
I mean, if Lyrical is trying to be a full country ballad, Premium Bermuda is going full Megan thee stallion
Coral is one of my favourite decks from premium.
I think I just got annoyed v never gave her a new Shangri-La
Same issue I had with Pacifica
In V
sharp forum
oh yeah there is that
grave cradle
can someone check if the lyrical 3 set is out on dear days yet ?
mortal hawk
Not yet. Might be at 1am for me
grave cradle
mortal hawk
It’s probably why I physically moved to Digimon. Crazy things be happening.
mortal hawk
If we get another glitch, we riot
brave kindle
Yeah. That’s why I didn’t really mind the Dear Days pricing. It’s still extortio...
tbh I don't really agree with this logic
the content in Dear Days barely justifies $30, let alone $70, and DLC on top is pretty 
if it was $70 for base game with constant Free updates to catch up with the cardpool I wouldn't mind, that at least would vaguely justify the jacked up cost as a sorta frontloaded dlc cost tacked on
or if the DLC was treated moreso as expansions where you didn't have to grind to get what you needed, I also wouldn't mind
its the most blatant cash grab I've seen a company make in awhile
mortal hawk
Not saying I like the pricing. Just that it’s cheaper than the card game
Which is really sad
brave kindle
the point I'm getting at, basically, is that I don't think the actual TCG price should have any relavence on the price of a digital game(where the usual metrics that make tcgs expensive like production, shipping, rarity, suppy vs demand, etc, don't exist to a large level, while on the flip side not being transferable to a physical medium as a downside) and it feels like a handwave away of the price tag to justify it, least in how its presented.
mortal hawk
Yeah. I do hate that
sharp forum
I don't really like DLC being pretty much mandatory these days but it is what it is
grave cradle
OH just realized
the lyrical set 3 deardays set includes the 3 promos
Looking up Pranks Azumy, Light that Shines on Solitude, and Relation Weaver Petrarca
grave cradle
Yes I just finished entering a decklist (minus petrarca and a foil boost for Purple Mermaid that I'll craft with my excess crafting points from opening over 300 packs)
Release the dlc on eshop plez
mortal hawk
Yeah. It’s getting old now
fluid garnet
@spiral crest how did they make him look even cooler
static spire
When will we get Lyrical Masque cards, smh.
What the fuck, vro, fucking Greedon's getting a Masque card?
mortal hawk
Yep.
Honestly, I’d like a lyrical masques if it means that Lyrical has some connection to the other clans
static spire
Not sure why they are already doing 2 and 3rd Masque units in the same nation. You'd think they'd atleast give one for nation to use all those Dragontree support with.
But, I guess it's LORE, that it affected Stoichea and Dark States first/more.
spiral crest
Guess it gives unsupported decks a chance to get support
Though hexaorb probably should have gotten one
static spire
Hmmmm. If Lyrical did get a Masque, it'll prob not be the ones in the first 2 sets, since Kairi has the G4 and rest getting a G3. Prob not Michu either because they already did the Hololive collab with it. So, in the other 5. Tho, Bermuda didn't get a Reverse either, so Bushi prob doesn't want to make their waifus nation have someone evil/corrupted or smthg.
New Hexaorb's name gimmick getting powercreeped by Dress Up is hilarious, tho.
mortal hawk
Which is weird since people loved Luquier reverse and Cecilia reverse
But strangely not Ramiel reverse who got a darker skin tone as well as the reversed stuff… wonder why
Genesis recently got himiko reverse as well
And it’s so weird because, at the time, the band Babymetal was trending.
So a death metal idol probably would
Powerful would probably be the obvious one since they require the soul to be empty
Friends could also do that to reflect how you can get people in friend groups that twist everything and can even be abusive but, because people often feel like cutting an abusive person out of their life is letting someone down, they often just keep them. They could do something like that
Out of the newest decks, Luticia and Kyouka are the most lore obvious ones.
Luticia deals with spirits and curses. Not much of a stretch for Masques to lull her into compliance. And Kyouka is a girl who embraces trends. #Masque-On-Kyouka would be a fitting name to show she gave into peer pressure
sharp forum
What the fuck, vro, fucking Greedon's getting a Masque card?
well that's unexpected based on anime since kid who plays Greedon walked out from Uniformers before he could had gotten one
he wasn't happy that he should had abandoned his own style
mortal hawk
Imagine if the anime went full evil organisation Guinea pig
grave cradle
well that's unexpected based on anime since kid who plays Greedon walked out fro...
Plot twist he stole one on the way out
cuz greedy little punk and all
mortal hawk
I would love that. And it comes to bite him back
sharp forum
yeah there is also chance that Urara might try to use Masques against Uniformers and it will bite her
fluid garnet
are there any new cards in the orfist deck or is it just reprints
ik the other two get new lines
mortal hawk
Lines period
spiral crest
orfist gets 1 new card
sharp forum
at this point Orfist is very much outdated deck
spiral crest
lmao, they didnt even reprint the promo cards that are causing the issues
snow oriole
wow they added a lyrical monasterio set to the game
it has like 7 new vanguards
wtfh
from skimming they don't seem terribly interesting to me though. just typical swarm and +5000 attack effects
grave cradle
from skimming they don't seem terribly interesting to me though. just typical sw...
Luticia tho
snow oriole
yea no kidding
spiral crest
The pink haired one with like@a@jet pack@and the dark@skinned elf one are meta relevant
mortal hawk
Petralca is fun
snow oriole
I was motivated to try michu when I saw that grade 1 rockstar girl
mortal hawk
Yep. I do like this idea that Noqno was this girl at the academy who faded into the background amidst the student body, until she saw this pink haired gremlin aiming to create the most explosive concert on Cray and Noqno was inspired by her, eventually forming a duet.
fluid garnet
@spiral crest
||Karmic Demonic Jewel Dragon, Drajeweled Masques
Dark States/Abyss Dragon
CONT: This card can only be ridden on a grade 3 with "Drajeweled" in its card name.
ACT(VC)[1/Turn]: COST[Remove a card with "Drajeweled" in its card name that is different from this unit from your hand, soul, or drop], choose two cards from your drop, put it into the soul, and this unit gets Critical +1 until end of turn.
AUTO(VC): When this unit attacks a vanguard, COST[CB1 & SB4 cards with different grades], choose two of your opponent's rear-guards, retire them, choose one of your opponent's vanguards, and increase or decrease its Power to 1 until the end of this turn.||
spiral crest
<@121831661284360192>
||Karmic Demonic Jewel Dragon, Drajeweled Masques
Dark S...
This card seems terrible compared to the regular Drajeweled
fluid garnet
yes
spiral crest
They added a counterblast just for a retire
And you lose the crit because it’s unlikely you’re getting rid of another name after the first turn you ride this
Wtf
Of the 4 masques, 3 are good and 1 is meh
Which I think is good
Just need better dragon tree support
Like a crazy elemental counter charger for masque cards
And you’re going places
static spire
Going by episode count and recent Stoichea dragontree units. This season prob ends with Megumi v Danji, ye?
With getting a Magnolia Masques.
They are really concentrated in Stoi/Dark States.
spiral crest
Yggdrasil=Tree+Evil
Stochiea=tree, Evil= dark states
Also yeah idk
That’s what, 3 for both?
static spire
If Magnolia Masques is real, then ye.
I guess, they'll do the other nations next season.
Since they didn't do Orfist Masque this season either.
spiral crest
How is the show even doing the whole turning evil thing
Are they just getting brainwashed by some random character
Like the LJ arc
I think the Lianorn chick was some 8 year old girl iirc
So she’s a villain now?
grave cradle
Are they just getting brainwashed by some random character
Jinki (main antag) has basically a vanguard cult
and the followers get a masque card if they strong enough
Lianorn user got the "Girl, you in a cult. They are taking away your individuality" speech by main protag so now she is an ex member of said cult.
spiral crest
lol
sharp forum
there is always chance that she tries to use Lianorn Masques against them and it backfires
that said I haven't watched newest ep yet so I don't know if anyone more characters have joined Jinki's search for ultimate fight
as far as him and his group goes they pretty much turn people into meta players in order to do do as they believe that individual play styles are obstacle
spiral crest
Cranium burner
G2/ POWER: 10000/ GUARD: 5000
Auto: When this unit attacks and
you have a VG with "Drajeweled" in
name, during this battle this unit gets
POWER +2000. At the end of the
battle if your VG have SB4 and
above at the same time for ability's
cost, [Cost]{Retire this unit}, CC1.
static spire
These new Masques support not supporting base form as well is super annoying.
Atleast the Clan specific Reverse support from back then didn't do this shit as much.
grave cradle
Vermillion is the next encounter
and Clarissa is getting her DressUp-grade next week on tuesday
mortal hawk
So… even then she’s not an Earnescorrect. Figures.
grave cradle
So… even then she’s not an Earnescorrect. Figures.
she is
she will just be named the original clarissa
mortal hawk
I know. I’m just annoyed we don’t get any new named Earnescorrect stuff when the deck gets support.
honest night
Danji just put fucking Drajewled in his deck
static spire
Just watched the episode.
Actually sick.
Prob the first time this anime was good for once.
grave cradle
tbf, his deck doesnt soulblast a lot despite being a darkstates deck
so the tech worked out
sharp forum
I still need to watch that episode but this season has been hype
spiral crest
Wild
snow oriole
o damn that dragon tank deck is good now? flagburg? is that its name
static spire
Kheios is the only wack one here, I think.
grave cradle
I should try Kheios out in dear days, heard hes a highlander deck
grave cradle
ah ok
spiral crest
o damn that dragon tank deck is good now? flagburg? is that its name
It has been good since set 4 or 5, can’t remember the set. It saw a lot of tops during that period
brave kindle
godd I miss this game sm 
grave cradle
Wasnt a joke
Mushiking is a new collab deck with access to 9 or so Finishing Moves
and will even get a special crest to help your Mushi vanguard
sharp forum
Japanese don't really do whole april fools thing
grave cradle
Japanese don't really do whole april fools thing
except, they did with these sort of.
The joke was just "oh now you have to use these to RPS to see who goes first"
when in real news, its actually this is an entirely brand new deck. MEGACOLONY IN D STANDARD TIME
dinosaur king collab when so we can get d series tachikaze?
spiral crest
fun fact, all of bushi's april fools "jokes" turn out being real
that's how we got the pale moon and grandblue sets
and the touken rounbu stuff
grave cradle
I thought of a stupid fun idea for what mushiking can do
Instead of drive checks, you can play a Hissatsu order after your opponent guards per drive check
and each order will do something+draw a card
but cannot be played before then
or, the orders do something when drive checked
sharp forum
we are getting new CFV ban list this week
grave cradle
yup they gave her dress-up form really good skills
grave cradle
Just wait for the dinosaur king collab, then we get tachikaze with a crest 😛
mortal hawk
Have to admit, Petrarca in Dear days is fun
shadow moat
mortal hawk
The new Feltyrosa looks good
west lion
Oh no that Lucio alone is gonna make me pull
honest night
Would Legacy formats help out Vanguard?
I feel like there isn't enough respect for older formats
sharp forum
premium format is already thing for those that want to play older cards so in a way it's legacy format
honest night
premium format is already thing for those that want to play older cards so in a ...
Not really? You wouldn't call Advanced in Yugioh a legacy format, or, ironically, Legacy in MTG
Sure it's a WAY to play with older cards but
Just try using OG Vermillion as your boss in 2023
copper grotto
Would Legacy formats help out Vanguard?
I mean they tried a g format once and that died out pretty fast
honest night
Did they meaningfully support it at all?
copper grotto
Did they meaningfully support it at all?
No they tend to leave formats out to dry when they move onto the next one
I mean now v premium has only recently gotten any form of support after like 3 months since the last support
18 sets later since the start of G era and then v prem g era got killed basically
grave cradle
next thursday we get the blue one that shares the pack cover art along with a second new regalis piece.
mortal hawk
Liking the new reveals. Kyouka and Luticia support? We like to see it.
And, for dark state… Her name is Fashun.
grave cradle
I'm so hyped for tomorrow
grave cradle
the new OT looks good, also I ordered cards 😮
The crit is worth the most technically, but I hope to pull Yasusada, the OT, or any of the Kashu in my 2 TRR pulls
grave cradle
BEETLES FULLY REVEALED NEXT WEEK
we engage in bug vs bug showdown in only 7 days
spiral crest
Wait this shit is in a core set lol?
grave cradle
yes
west lion
Wait this shit is in a core set lol?
V series could never
grave cradle
counter argument, tossing dragonic overlord with a beetle sounds cool
west lion
Lmao
brave kindle
wait Zero is dead?
honest night
Yessir
brave kindle
wow lmao
another Bushi L
I never understood why Zero changed so much about the rules when the game already wasn't super complicated at a gameplay or mechanic level
plush cradle
lmaoo
grave cradle
My starter deck arrived in the mail, no SP
or stamp rare
For my TRRs I got Fudou Yukimitsu, and Kashuu Kiyomitsu Sentou
so one that for sure stays come the set 2 revisions (Sentou is ride deck g1), and one that may stay cuz it's pretty good for trigger stacking (g1 cb1 look at top deck and put on top or bottom, if bottom he gets +2k)
brave kindle
static spire
Post.
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Epee Du Justice Thegrea
G3/ POWER: 13000/ GUARD: 0
[Auto]: When your ride this unit
onto a G3 with "Thegrea" in name,
during this turn this unit's is treated
as the same name as the card
rode upon. Search and put up to
1 unit card with "Thegrea" in name
from deck into soul and shuffle the
deck.
Activate[Once per turn]: [Cost]
{Discard 1 from hand}, choose and
ride up to 1 different G3 with
"Thegrea" in name from soul in
stand. If rode, bind this card and
activate persona ride, during this
turn you cannot ride.
<Glitter
grave cradle
2 days till Mushiking reveal on the 27th
and seems we getting the full 20 card wave so maximum power 
snow oriole
wow that thegrea card does everything
brave kindle
what does glitter mean I haven't been keeping up with VG at all
honest night
It's a really fancy way to say "Vanguard with this card name"
static spire
It's just a tag some cards care about.
grave cradle
what does glitter mean I haven't been keeping up with VG at all
its just a tag that appears on a select few bosses
which they share with a certain rg(s)
for example Maple here is thegrea's
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tomorrow is the day!
grave cradle
ok quick version
they are "vanillas"
you get all your skills from orders that you rest when you attack with a mushi
and each order gives +5k if your technique (I'll get to that) is high enough, +5k if your symbol matches (I'll get to that) and 1 extra effect that you can discard a copy to make stronger (By the respective grade)
the purple number is technique
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Yeah I’m not reading all of that
grave cradle
btw the vanguard copies of the card work in the machine itself
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a quick decklist for Pinch G3 variant
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Good fight
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you stall until turn 6
plush cradle
so basically prison except worse?
grave cradle
Prison is stax, griphologia isnt
plush cradle
i havent played since bt05 so idk what to play
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ok how the fuck is buddyfight still alive in thailand
brave kindle
ok how the fuck is buddyfight still alive in thailand
thailand has some weird favoritism from what I've seen
didn't they get multiple unique clans in Vanguard
sharp forum
as long as it is there is some hope no matter how small that BF might return
honest night
P Great Nature is so fun wtf
snow oriole
new vanguard shit is out at the end of the month for dear days
- Additional Card Set Vol.3 [D-BT07]: Raging Flames Against Emerald Storm
hows the brandt gate stuff in this set?
spiral crest
not the best
just provides a base for ceo
they get a new card later thats pretty good
grave cradle
never underestimate the power of a 23k g1
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ok touken ranbu is getting good stuff now, Munechika is pretty nuts but tantou? INSTANT STAPLE
free normal unit, recycle triggers
incredibly low wiff chance (calling pgs and your persona ride targets)
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yeah that's pretty good
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this front trigger in particular keeps showing up in my drive checks, I should be getting 50% of the other front and 50% midare but every time it's midare 👀
lucky unit? idk but at least with munechika I wont have to swap out midare for effect fronts when they reveal effect fronts
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OH DAMN
kiwami training isnt for the new aces
it creates aces out of ANY unit that is getting a kiwame form
and you get to build a rideline (no on rides work so pick your favorites) for it
Legal grade 3 ace (for example)
after crest it looks like this
grave cradle
love that
plush cradle
im building a greedon deck just for this sole porpous
"i attack with my lil greedy boi"
grave cradle
grave cradle
yup
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shiranui back to dominate in standard 😦
brave kindle
Sigh
another Bushi L
watch Luard become meta AGAIN
for the 3rd time
across every reboot
plush cradle
isnt it when Luard was at its low like wave 1 Luard?
grave cradle
true
grave cradle
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@brave kindle
brave kindle
no fucking way
brave kindle
is this even associated with Bushi or just liscensed
grave cradle
Yeah
plush cradle
isn't it a separate reboot away from bushi?
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brave kindle
I mean Bushi has a weird disproportionate favoring of Thai for some reason(given the thai exclusive Vanguard clans) so its 50/50
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Bug deck is actually playable
I’m still not reading it though
Seems like the format is finally creeping past gandiva, Jet and Eva
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Bug deck is actually playable
Yes, we knew this for awhile
PSR variant in particular is what's pulling numbers
mossy wagon
What is a vanguard equivalent for Golden Nova’s Archetype explained series
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Player retention numbers from the past BCS season
Basically axe V, Ty
Goes in depth about each format. D is growing. V is practically dying/life support, P is the middle child
mossy wagon
anyone remember the flop that was Luck and Logic
which I guess could be summed as "the rules mattered more than the cards themselves"
also I miss Buddyfight, shame its final arc never got animated for some reason
really liked it because it wasn't just another case of "the players just stand there putting cards on the table and talking"
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yeah
hybrid oriole
Only starter decks but low key fun
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It’s 1 per box
brave kindle
how expensive would a Greedon deck be roughly atm?
I sorta like the look of the playstyle and I already have a few Dark States staples from trying to build Final Rush at the start of D
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not too familary with greedon but I imagine it wouldnt be much
a quick search on tcg player shows greendon is like 50 cents and all the desire devils are $3 and under lol
so looks pretty cheap
honest night
Isn't Greedon Masques kinda expensive?
Given how you need both him and masque itself
brave kindle
I know the order is
to the point where Bushi is making that one product which literally is just 2 copies of it
honest night
Sidenote
I like how Greedon just got a masque form
And the anime didn't feel the need to show it off
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I dont think greedon masque is out yet for us
brave kindle
(which is a super concerning thing to see imma be real it makes me wonder if the design team is struggling to come up with ideas for sets)
honest night
It's out for us baby
brave kindle
any of ya'll got an example list btw
spiral crest
im sorry, I have none
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premium 🤢
brave kindle
I guess it would be just buying 4x of every Desire Devil, trigger lineup, then some additional staples right?
been a long time since I touched anything so idk what Dark States has staple wise
I have the better PGs
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you dont like eva and chronojet mirrors with the occassional grandneel?
I think this is month like 5 of this?
very fun
honest night
The gateway format being prohibitively expensive
brave kindle
also man I have so many unopened sleeve boxes lmao
oh damn just found my old Bruce deck
honest night
very fun <:Hahaa:642861303387521034>
If there's anyone who will defend a half-year long format
It's Vanguard fans
hybrid oriole
Ee vanguard fans
brave kindle
yeah like ngl
Vanguards product and banlist philosphy sucks ass
but I do like some facets of the game(namely a lot of the designs)
Star-Vaders my beloved
honest night
My enjoyment from Vanguard comes from how unique all the decks are
Which is partly why Standard isn't appealing to me rn
Among other things but
I like Premium for letting me do crazy shit
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the problem with premium is that the crazy shit is usually degenrate interactions from old cards and new cards
honest night
GN can set up a 30k multi-attacker who restricts g0s and needs 3 cards in hand to guard
And then draws 5
And is a low tier deck
brave kindle
okay yeah so I have the Dark States overtrigger 3 of the better pgs and a trigger lineup
you can run 8 crit still right
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like DI has so many cards that just shouldn't be allowed to coexist with some of the new shit
yeah
honest night
16
honest night
the problem with premium is that the crazy shit is usually degenrate interaction...
Really the only degenerate stuff I see in Premium are like
Gredora
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vg players are bad and dont realize how cancer gredora is
honest night
Denial Griffin
honest night
Oh right
honest night
vg players are bad and dont realize how cancer gredora is
vg players will notice how cancer gredora is and go "Better than floodgate turbo yugioh!!!!"
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nah everytime I partition to have megaclolney hit
I always get the same response of
"this is just vanguard's first real control deck bro"
"learn how to play around it"
honest night
Literally MLB?