#rush_duels

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desert cosmos
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Likely they bricked

dusk sleet
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And Shining Flare Wingman would just be cracked

uncut badger
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Or they're a maximum deck

dusk sleet
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It already can reach pretty high ATK values, but in Rush Duels, it's even better

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[Elemental HERO Shining Flare Wingman]

valid cave
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i think you're most likely to keep a scary spell/trap in hand

tender orioleBOT
# dusk sleet [Elemental HERO Shining Flare Wingman]

level Level: 8
[ Warrior / Fusion / Effect ]

ATK 2500 / DEF 2100

Effect

"Elemental HERO Flame Wingman" + "Elemental HERO Sparkman"
Must be Fusion Summoned. Gains 300 ATK for each "Elemental HERO" card in your GY. If this card destroys a monster by battle and sends it to the GY: Inflict damage to your opponent equal to that monster's original ATK in the GY.

valid cave
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so aqua dolphin shooting monsters isnt very helpful

dusk sleet
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But you'll know what they got for you later!

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And knowing

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is half the battle

valid cave
uncut badger
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Oh no

valid cave
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thatd be like the longest card text in rush

dusk sleet
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Also, it's a pretty useful first turn monster

uncut badger
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Wait

dusk sleet
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Use it, then tag something that's gonna be used to further plays, like say, Necromaid Nana, or the wide variety of "draw 1" type support

stuck summit
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my guess is shining flare wingman is gonna count warriors

dusk sleet
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At least Aqua Dolphin's getting it better than Flare Scarab

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All Flare Scarab can be is a beatstick in most cases.

stuck summit
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i really like heat and pulse's designs

dusk sleet
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Yeah!

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They feel like natural reimaginings of neos fusions

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Previously they were like this

tardy mica
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warriors with dif names

valid cave
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nah
i think flare scarab is much better than aqua dolphin in rush

desert cosmos
dusk sleet
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a[Elemental HERO Flare Neos]

dusk sleet
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Which isn't bad but it barely resembles Neos

desert cosmos
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That's the idea

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The master duel neos Fusions resemble their neo spacian more

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While the rush ones are more of Neos

uncut badger
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The new neos dudes look like modern ultraman designs

dusk sleet
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Most you'll be cracking with Flare Scarab is 1700 ATK. (Or, 2100 if your opponent has a field spell up too)

Which is pretty high up there, but Elemental HERO Sparkman already reaches 1600 ATK without needing the effect to do so

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Of course this is assuming the effect is 1:1. It very well may be different

valid cave
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its not really special, but that does make it just a functional beater when youre not contacting!

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aqua dolphin just... doesn't do anything

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it can discard a card that you don't want just to empty your hand and de-brick i guess?

dusk sleet
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Aqua Dolphin to me feels like it'll excell in going first

uncut badger
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Found what they reminded me of

dusk sleet
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So it's a case-by case thing. Also as said, it can really put some pain on Maximum-focused decks, since some of the individual maximum monsters have lower ATK than the complete set

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Worst-case scenario it may just be regulated to side deck duty.

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...Also wow Excutie getting fusions now

uncut badger
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The excutie fusion nukes the field, draws 20, and revives 3 level 6 monsters from either graveyard

dusk sleet
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Yep

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It's more Goha propaganda

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I mean, how else do you explain a deck around so much level 6 monsters, that really hates anything above that number

desert cosmos
dusk sleet
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Yeah!

desert cosmos
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Just think how much op it will be

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It's gonna be a the very least 3k with removal.

dusk sleet
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You'll need both Lilius and Lumiere on the field ideally

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A little easier now given Excutie Lilius is now Semi-Limited

desert cosmos
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I mean those are already good on their own. So imagine fusing them.

desert cosmos
dusk sleet
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I'm a little unsure of how great Lilius really tend to be, given it's a beatstick all in all

desert cosmos
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I mean it wouldn't be on banlist if it wasn't great

dusk sleet
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In a deck using em though, it's pretty substansial how helpful it can get

uncut badger
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The new fusion is making whoever monster it destroys by battle be put to 1 on the banlist

dusk sleet
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Everyone's lining up to destroy Praime Dwarf

uncut badger
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Brb, raiding konami so that we can import magical hats to destroy secret gate by battle

dusk sleet
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That actually would be pretty cool a port

valid cave
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so i know yall are excited about heroes, and im excited about cuties
but can we talk about the other fusion there?

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so furst off "the ever-present princess of heaven" goes hard as a name

dusk sleet
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Yes

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That is a super cool name

valid cave
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but it's a contact fusion of specter of heaven's end and specter of heaven's beginning
which summon eachother and are just playable staples on their own!

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so like im pretty confident shes busted even without knowing what she does

dusk sleet
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Yeah, it's absurd how helpful they are in throwing stuff to the GY

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About the only real competition they have is Legend Magician

valid cave
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shed have to be like a 2000/0 vanilla to be bad

desert cosmos
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I wonder if the berry theme is getting a contact fusion

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Since everyone and their mother seems to be getting one

uncut badger
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hmmm

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blaze fiends are kinda underwhelming, huh

lusty venture
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😮

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NEOS FUSIONS!

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and a berry theme?!

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will aqua finally have a good deck?

uncut badger
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The amount of contempt every time rush gets brought up in gen actually makes me upset

stuck summit
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same

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a lot of people really don't want to give it a chance

lusty venture
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Same

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Ooh fancy

uncut badger
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The people who complain about ygo having a lack of option problem are the exact same people who groan when literally anything other than current gets brought up

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Its actually insane

uncut badger
lusty venture
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wait a second

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creek?!

stuck summit
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wow that's a pretty huge boost

valid cave
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okay now your berry freshes have 700 atk instead of 100 cheems

stuck summit
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i'd imagine they have some way of increasing their attack like how love angels do

uncut badger
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Yo we can beat defense mode excuties by battle

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Huge

dusk sleet
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The one weakness of Excutie

Block Attack

valid cave
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dependent on how much though whether the +600 is relevant though

uncut badger
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Imagine if its a burn/mill deck tho

dusk sleet
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I mean, Love Angel stuff has like 0 ATK, but then they get ATK super rapidly

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So they will likely have ways to bring the hurt

lusty venture
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yup

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berry fresh already swings for 2200 with creek

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while simultaneously turning the sent monster (assuming 100 atk cuz theme) into a heatflash-ish

stuck summit
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we out here summoning berries in the wetlands

lusty venture
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OH damn the new zombie fusion is also a contact fusion

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same with the excutie

dusk sleet
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Yep!

uncut badger
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Yea

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Heaven's beginning is a 1 card fusion monster now (not counting setup)

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Which is kinda crazy in terms of powercreep

uncut badger
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Anyway i kinda want to go on a bit of a rant

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Why are maximums so underutilized?

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Ever since the mechanic came out, we have only 18 of them, 3 of them didnt come from either the anime or manga, and 3 and didnt underperform in the meta

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What went wrong?

dusk sleet
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Honestly, from what I noticed, Fusion happened

stuck summit
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i think a big problem with maximums is that if your deck has even one of them you need to build the entire deck around it or it's just dead weight a lot of the time

dusk sleet
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It's just usually more efficient to dedicate a very big monster to your deck if it's a fusion monster, rather than using up 3 specific monsters just to maximum summon

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It's a consistency nightmare of a fashion

tardy mica
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catching up on go rush and good lord the phaser arc destroyed the impact of maximums so much

dusk sleet
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One thing to note is also, you kinda have to rely on Maximum monsters when you do a Maximum summon.

Which means, if you can't account for a specific kind of card, your plan will end up collapsing on itself

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Just ask anyone whos ran into a Magic Cylinder

stuck summit
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watching it as it came out felt even worse since they revealed what phaser's maximum did like a month before the episode it debuted in aired

uncut badger
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Oh yea i got to that arc last week

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Poseidra's cgi looked miserable

dusk sleet
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Man, they did Poseidra dirty

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Used to be a cool sea dragon that the Atlantean's kept

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Now it's some... guy.

uncut badger
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Its also a centaur

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For some reason

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Anyway i'm very mad because i wanted to make one of the main characters in my game use beelucitaroth but the card is so bad it makes me want to scream

dusk sleet
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Yeaaah, it's one of those series that really goes all in on Maximum summon, but isn't too impressive all in all

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A shame, since it's one of the very original themes out there, with Harpie Lady

uncut badger
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It has the problem with a lot of other rush cards where it was designed to combat the current meta enviroment exactly

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And then falls off a cliff once it inevitably shifts

dusk sleet
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The deal with forbidding opponents from setting cards is an interesting one though

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It does force confrontation, which is pretty climatic

uncut badger
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Not not setting lockdown is from desparacion

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Beelucitaroth is a 3k guy that gains 600 and piercing until the end of turn by milling 1, trap destruction protection and immunity to being destroyed by battle by normal monsters

dusk sleet
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Ahhh

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Yeah the normal monster immunity thing is... very specific

uncut badger
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Yea it was a direct response to gate order

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which it mostly failed at because the card is not good

tardy mica
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yeah poseidra looked awful

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the phaser arc is imo the worst arc by far of the series since bridge took over

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boring duels, godawful villains,

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and doing that to my beloved maximums

uncut badger
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I would've said the goha employee arc was worse if not by yuga goha showing up

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But yea the phaser arc was pretty middling

tardy mica
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goha employee arc at least had the zombie episode that was fun

uncut badger
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They did my boy manabu dirty deadinside

valid cave
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the thing with beeluci is that like
of course a low-level maximum is expected to be weaker than a high-level maximum, but

tardy mica
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i wouldn't call any of the phaser arc duels entertaining

valid cave
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most of the maximum support is built around level 10s

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so a maximum that has zero level 10 pieces is much harder to summon than the actual boss maximum

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if it just had actually efficient enablers that worked on it then itd be perfectly fine

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but rn it just offers maximum monster names fur cards that care about that

uncut badger
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Yea it mostly exists as disparacion's personal discard fodder

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Which sucks because the card has some of the coolest art in ygo

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On another note

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I kinda just realized that maximum's "built in" protection is pretty underwhelming once you take them out of the context of rush

tardy mica
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yep

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maximum is perfectly designed within the confines of rush but it's pretty garbo outside that vacuum

uncut badger
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Yea like, they fold to most edison backrow

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Including the bad ones like soul taker

tardy mica
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watching phaser vs tiny alien simp girl

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er, tremolo

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no i won't be bothered to remember Zwijo's inferior simp's name

uncut badger
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It's bad IN context

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It loses to so much stuff nowadays

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Like literally any legend card

tardy mica
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the mechanic desperately needs some more and better generic support

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it's got vibes too immaculate to be left in the dust

uncut badger
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I'm still dumbfounded that in 4 years of rush we only have 18 maximums

tardy mica
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and like a third of them are just over road in different forms

uncut badger
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There's more GEMINI monsters than maximums

tardy mica
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i get they want to maintain the spectacle of them somewhat

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but then why did they make the phaser arc

uncut badger
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Mechanic's so desperate for support the best that duel links could come up with was just treating the pieces as reusable tribute fodder and atk reduction spells

valid cave
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mind, duel links specifically is terrified of the idea of consistent maximums

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it couldve given maximums incredible support effortlessly if it wanted

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but it doesn't want maximum turbo to be a deck because it'd be unfun and require huge removal infrastructure to not render the game unplayable

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i don't think it's unreasonable to expect, at some point in the future, that duel links will get a skill thats like "once per turn, reveal abyss kraken middle in your hand: add abyss kraken left and right from your deck to your hand, you can't normal summon for the rest of this turn"

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but thatd only be after the power level is high enough

uncut badger
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Honestly

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The main thing i'm concern with in terms of DL Rush is the board wipes i.e. dark hole and burst stream of destruction

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Since yknow, 6k lp game

valid cave
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otherwise
maximums are just kinda hard to fit into a set fur the most part, i think that's why there's so few of them

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there always have to be 3 slots dedicated to them

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specifically, 3 slots of the same rarity

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and maximums are usually big flashy monsters that innately want to be in a high rarity by nature

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thats literally what theyre designed fur, the mechanic is made to be cool above all else

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but it's not very practical to dedicate 3 of your 8 over rush rare card slots in a main set to the same heccn card

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so theyre usually relegated to side sets that can fit whatever into them

uncut badger
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Oh, i havent considered the rarity aspect, that makes sense

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Btw when was the last printed maximum printed?

desert cosmos
wind harbor
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wait no

desert cosmos
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Something like a new part treated as yggdrago L in hand. Should work.

valid cave
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lord of galactica in high grade collection (which was after mrp2)

wind harbor
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Lord in high grade

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i always confuse the 2 sets

valid cave
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(technically over rush pack 2 had a reprint of yggdrago)

uncut badger
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Wait

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Wasnt that last year?

wind harbor
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Yes

valid cave
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december of 2023 yeah

uncut badger
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Oh dear

wind harbor
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we 100% see another max or 2 by the end of go rush

tardy mica
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i wanted to make a rock maximum custom but i could never figure out what i wanted to do with it

maximum CACs are so hard to do right

wind harbor
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that are somehow even worse than what we already have

uncut badger
tardy mica
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i'm guessing Yuamu will get a maximum

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since Yudias and Yuhi both got one

valid cave
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in terms of set release schedule, orp2 was the most recent major side set and included a maximum monster reprint, while hc01 was the one that came befur that and had a new maximum in it

uncut badger
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Trap destruction protection, it can put 1 level 4 or lower monster in the top of the deck, and it gains 300 atk by discarding 1

valid cave
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so with maximums not being generally printed in main sets, id say thats pretty expected

uncut badger
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Its base atk is 2700

wind harbor
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next set after kp18 should be mrp3 going by last year's schedule

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so I could see them printing the meeg max there maybe?

valid cave
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honestly, meeg max could just go into any main set at this point in the common slots, if any max belongs as filler it's that

tardy mica
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mhm

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that was prob one of the worst parts of phaser arc

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half the cast becoming jobbers to a literal nobody

wind harbor
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Yudias drawing fusion at any point finishes the arc

uncut badger
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Asaka...

valid cave
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(although its art would benefit a lot from being in over rush rare)

wind harbor
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cuz he just eternals for game then

uncut badger
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Oh yea

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Did we ever get a galactica retrain based on that one scene where it got 3 different equip spells on it?

tardy mica
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it was nice getting to see the finale of sevens from another perspective but god i cannot find a single thing about that arc i like

uncut badger
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Oh yea

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Ep 62 was so good

tardy mica
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it just made me wish i was watching sevens

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because sevens is like
peak yugioh

uncut badger
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i got into go rush because i wanted to watch more sevens

wind harbor
uncut badger
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instead i got chupataro

wind harbor
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where they just threw Yuga in a most likely wrong time period

tardy mica
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but you also got Mitsuri at least
we love flatwoods girl in this household

wind harbor
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like, no way they shown tew fact that the moon is at a different angle from the space station in that scene than it is at the end of sevens just by mistake or whatever

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when they had a flashback to that exact scene earlier

tardy mica
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i'll be honest thats stretching into the corkboard territory

wind harbor
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Spoilers for the s2 finale of go rush

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||when they send Yuga home||

uncut badger
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Oh i'm still on ep 64

tardy mica
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thank you for actually spoiler barring that

wind harbor
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||The scene of him returning to earth has several different elements from the Sevens one||

tardy mica
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so far the show seems to be on an upswing because of ||Epoch|| partially after phaser arc being a trash fire

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i just finished ep 69

wind harbor
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you'll soon get into the territory of ||what being renewed for a third year mid-season does to a show's plot||

uncut badger
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Can we go for one yugioh show without any major production issues happening?

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JUST ONCE?

tardy mica
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no
you get the Yudias is a shirt arc instead

wind harbor
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ygo 9 will save maximums...

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trust

tardy mica
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ngl the Shirt Yudias thing is completely batshit comical to me

wind harbor
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They should have released the design irl ngl

uncut badger
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Ygo 9 will return to master duels and make ppl remember why they changed to rush to begin with

wind harbor
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ygo 9 will replace contact fusion with synchro and the first synchro deck will be forgotten for 3 years, as is tradition...

uncut badger
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Ygo 9 will make yuga solve classism by building a bridge

tardy mica
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i love Yuga so much

my perfect chaotic good gremlin child

wind harbor
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you joke, but there's a very real possibilty they keep Yuga for ygo 9 and never finish any of his go rush plots...

uncut badger
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What plots?

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Dude barely even shows up

tardy mica
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he's basically just there to justify rush duels

wind harbor
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surely they'll close the Otes thing by the end of ygo 9, right...

uncut badger
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He basically doesnt interact with the cast at all

tardy mica
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what do you mean
||Otes is the stupid OS he built to filter out ladybugs from his vision||

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that was another insulting bit of the Phaser arc

stuck summit
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yugioh 9 will be an even further in the past prequel where they finally show the card games on forklifts that were mentioned in that one episode of sevens

wind harbor
tardy mica
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i hate time travel

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so goddamn much

uncut badger
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Yugioh 9 will go so far back yuga will have to become ygo's version of dr stone

wind harbor
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last time we ended up with Otes being ||Yuamu||

tardy mica
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||i'd like to congratulate him on his transition then||

uncut badger
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Oh yea btw

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Can we just

wind harbor
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the s2 finale was a doozy

uncut badger
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Delete damamu from the show?

tardy mica
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he's worse Kaizo

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essentially

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Kaizo being around to simp over Rovian would at least make Yuna's toxic bisexual arc more interesting

uncut badger
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Kaizo got the salarymen duel which is infinitely funnier than whatever damamu did or will do

wind harbor
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Damamu is there to handwave some shit later on ngl

tardy mica
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he's just there so they can use the egil velgear stock footage whenever Zwijo duels

uncut badger
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Oh yea

tardy mica
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that's his entire purpose in the show

uncut badger
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||aint zwijo a jobber now?||

wind harbor
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like, it's 100% how they get contact fusion, given there's a Damamu ep coming up right before the arc finale

wind harbor
uncut badger
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||Ah, the revolver tactics, i see i see||

wind harbor
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Tho this leads to a question about the arc finale

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is it ||Zwijo and Meister vs Yudias and Yuhi||?

tardy mica
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i can tell by this point in go rush they were starting to run low on the respect women juice they stocked up on for sevens

wind harbor
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||Meister debuted contact and beat Zwijo tho||

uncut badger
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Surely Yuamu is still gonna carry the show right?

wind harbor
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so at least that's something

uncut badger
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Right?

tardy mica
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yeah

wind harbor
uncut badger
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Btw

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What does voidvelgr like

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Do

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As a deck

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How does it function?

tardy mica
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dark hole

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fusion summon

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dark hole

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attack

uncut badger
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For me at least it seems like a very uncohesive pile of cards

wind harbor
uncut badger
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Requiem feels like the worst anime ace from the rush era

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And dian keto is literally right there

tardy mica
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hasn't galaxy kinda centralized around dwarf fusion stuff

uncut badger
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And oblivion is a vanilla

uncut badger
tardy mica
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idk

uncut badger
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From the tournament results posted yesterday

tardy mica
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i don't keep up with rush metagame

uncut badger
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8 out of the top 8 decks were on it

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.

wind harbor
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tbf, that's more of a meta-specific thing

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since there's a lot of light decks around now

uncut badger
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Somehow, dragias returned

wind harbor
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surely they'll print dark dragon support now that ||Yuhi took bluetooth||

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surely they'll make Redboot.dek good...

uncut badger
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That Red-Boot looks greener

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The effects is grass + add 1 red boot from gy to hand if your opponent controls a level 7 or higher mon

wind harbor
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Redboot + Dark Matter Dragon

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for the memes

uncut badger
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Rush has had it too good for too long

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Its time to banish a light and a dark

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fr tho chaos emperor dragon would kinda suck in rush

tardy mica
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It would

valid cave
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(5 out of 8, counting side decks)

uncut badger
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Wait was it just 5 out of 8?

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Could swear it was 8/8

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Mb then

valid cave
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there was also an extra one that was on the fusions, but had no means of fusion summoning

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(it just had a full extra deck so that they don't give their opponent any information befur the game begins)

uncut badger
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I see

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Oh yea btw

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Have they printed that one anime card that was the monarchs stormforth for galaxy types?

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Galactica advance, i think it was called?

wind harbor
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yup

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Wait no

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that's another one

uncut badger
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there's a second one?

valid cave
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uhhhh
there was a monarch card that did that and was printed befur it appeared in the anime

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(depicting the galaxy type monarch)

uncut badger
wind harbor
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are yout alking about

valid cave
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did yudias play a different one?

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if so it wasnt printed

uncut badger
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Yes

wind harbor
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he used it to tribute Tremollo's max

uncut badger
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Vs tremolo

wind harbor
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that one is in KP13 iirc

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I blanked on what stormforth did for a sec sorry

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there's just one

valid cave
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if it's advance impact, then it wasn't an anime card to start with

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okay yeah i checked, it's advance impact

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not a galaxy card, not related to yudias's deck

uncut badger
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Huh

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I see

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Misremembered it then

valid cave
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https://x.com/YuGiOh_RUSHDUEL/status/1796481747292438618 <@&681691144509194284> rush is now introducing a brand new type of hero!

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ストラクチャーデッキ
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「E・HERO」を中心とした戦士族の
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#ラッシュデュエル

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Rising Hero Argento, lv4 light warrior/effect 1000/1000
[requirement] reveal 1 level 6 or 7 warrior type fusion monster from your extra deck
[effect] excavate the top 4 cards of your deck. you can add up to 2 normal monsters whose names are listed as materials for the monster revealed to meet the requirement and add them to your hand. return the rest to the bottom of the deck in any order

stuck summit
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seems pretty good

lusty venture
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Ooh new hero

dusk sleet
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Oh that's neat

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Rising HERO has a nice ring to it

lusty venture
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1000/1000 statline to so small synergy with the talismanic (but it has no targets in that theme)

lusty venture
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@dusk sleet you up to duel?

dusk sleet
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Oh, yeah, I can duel

lone junco
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What are you guys using to duel?

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Only way I know how to rush duel is a Roblox Yugioh game (dimension duels X in case anyone’s wondering it, it’s high quality) with a rush duel mode

lusty venture
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duelingbook

dusk sleet
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An excellent duel!

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Love that ending

lusty venture
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very good duel

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and same

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I hope we get an attack spell like how the tcg has skydive scorcher

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See dark magic attack/burst stream of destruction (for rush examples)

dusk sleet
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Yeah!

lusty venture
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Perhaps Scorching Tornado?

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for the new wingman

dusk sleet
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That would be nice

uncut badger
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Oh wait

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The fact that they're making the new neos fusions probably means they wont come with the self bounce effect

dusk sleet
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Well, that means they already care more for it than the OG Neos stuff if so

simple cedar
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cries in Air Neos

desert cosmos
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We gonna get air conditioner neos instead

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Elemental HERO AC Neos

native osprey
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do duels in sevens ever become longer than 1 ep

tardy mica
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Yes
But it’s usually only saved for season finales/the finales to BIG arcs

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This is for the best

native osprey
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word. I just got to yggdragos first appearance and I really like the series so far

tardy mica
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Yggdrago’s first appearance is honestly the moment I knew sevens would be my favorite yugioh

uncut badger
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||The duels in the rush shows kinda get a lot worse once you realize they usually always end in 4 turns, so you know who's winning based solely on if they're going second||

tardy mica
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It’s better than dragging every single duel out longer than they need to be

uncut badger
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It is, vrains in particular struggled with every duel requiring 2 eps to finish so the plot moved at a snail's pace

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But it still feels kinda bad watching the same formula over and over

valid cave
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#ラッシュデュエル

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no card effect again, but card artwork and name fur "Dark Matter Requiem"!

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wow, i wonder what the materials will be

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could be anything

uncut badger
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Requiem you say?

desert cosmos
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The normal monster has 0/1300

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Very easy to Summon tbh

valid cave
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could be anything

desert cosmos
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It was in today's episode lol

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Idk why u keep saying it could be anything

valid cave
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its a j o k e

desert cosmos
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Well I clearly don't get it lol

uncut badger
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What type are dark matter again?

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Galaxy?

valid cave
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yeah

uncut badger
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I see

dusk sleet
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...Ok, that a uh

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Scary sort of material requirement

tardy mica
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Finished the galaxy cup arc

All it does it make me wonder what kind of hell is going on inside the writing room for this show

lusty venture
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Anime version of the previously mentioned card (plus the new material)

dusk sleet
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Oh, yeah, it's called that, due to the Contact Fusion thing

lusty venture
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4 card fusion summon that hits like a large drill for a turn, neat. I wonder what changes the irl version will get if any

desert cosmos
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It's only 3

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You can Special Summon requiem, you don't have to Tribute Summon it

lusty venture
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and Im aware you can special summon it, Im just saying without accounting for ways to cheat requiem out

desert cosmos
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Ss requiem by some card effects. NS voyager

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That's not really "cheating"

lusty venture
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I'm not being literal

desert cosmos
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I get what you mean.

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It's just Special Summon effects are too common rn to be called a cheat.

desert cosmos
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Do u think we gonna get Fusion gate as a legend

dusk sleet
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Well, it would be nice, but it can't really arrive 1:1.

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Though, I certainly would like it!

lusty venture
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fusion gate but it puts them on bottom

uncut badger
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Would also be once per turn too, sadly

lusty venture
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thats fine

valid cave
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honestly a version of fusion gate that just says "fusion monsters can be summoned by contact fusion" would be a reasonable approximation

uncut badger
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Thinking about it

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We havent seen any contact fusion with a multi choice effect, did we?

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tbf we've only seen like 2, but still

valid cave
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well yeah, weve only seen 2

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multi-choice effects appear specifically on fusion monsters with fusion-exclusive types

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both of the ones weve seen are anime cards played by galaxy users, galaxy type fusions dont get multi choice effects

uncut badger
rare silo
valid cave
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ooh

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wait that has potential to actually be good

rare silo
native osprey
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this thing ruined DL

desert cosmos
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DL is a bad format

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They just printed older cards mixed with new ones. The power level is a mess

dusk sleet
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Mentioned this before but I still find it cracked how Cyber Dragon is a thing in Rush Duel

stuck summit
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i remember when it was revealed everyone was like "yo this is crazy" and then it was just alright

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a big part of why cydra was good in advanced was because it didn't use up your normal summon

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which doesn't matter in rush

dusk sleet
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Yeah, admittedly it's a ways off from how notoriously powerful it is on the offense.

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You can OTK with it, but you gotta get a good bit lucky to pull it off, but it's still very possible

lusty venture
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@dusk sleet down to rush?

dusk sleet
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Yeah, I'm game!

lusty venture
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yeah noticed xteven uploaded a lot of the newer sets

dusk sleet
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Nice done

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...I'm probably just gonna have to accept I'll never win against a Cyberspice deck, am I

lusty venture
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nice dueling

dusk sleet
lusty venture
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hey you won 1 of the 3

dusk sleet
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Ehh, yeah

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Oh wow, they did finally update

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Guess I got some cleanup to do on decks

valid cave
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and i guess ive got a lotta cards to private & delete then?

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its been quite a while since db's updated last

uncut badger
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Ngl rlly sucks having to run custom legends cards in the side deck due to db not having the proper rulings

native osprey
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it doesn't? that seems like a pretty big oversight

dusk sleet
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They messed up the pic for Swift Gaia the Dragon Champion lol

valid cave
dusk sleet
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Honestly, I do prefer Spirawr's crisp images

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Even if they are like, just snipped from the card artwork

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Alright, so I may go on a hunt for a new series to try out

lusty venture
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I wanna see you try and build hybridrive

dusk sleet
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Oooh

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I could give that an honest try

desert cosmos
dusk sleet
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It certainly can bring the hurt, but it's definitely got a hard time keeping that momentum

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But when it gets going, it sure gets going

desert cosmos
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And especially now that stats jumped up once again

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Cydra has w thing going for it really. Cyber Processor

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That thing is crazy.

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This is so free

lusty venture
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@dusk sleet down for another match

dusk sleet
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In a sec! Building that decjk

lusty venture
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k

dusk sleet
lusty venture
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hosting

dusk sleet
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That was super scary, well played

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...I'm a little peeved that I never once seen the Blue Tooth Burst Dragon in this deck

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Man, my luck

lusty venture
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not the magical cylinder for 6400 XD, but yeah very nice dueling

dusk sleet
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Actualllllly

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@valid cave You up for a quick round?

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Chronomagwhatever is super cool though. Might see about trying a deck around it next time

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Oh, that's how you spell it

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And I will stand by this having super cool flavor text

dusk sleet
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Ehhh, well, let's take a rain check on the duel with spirawr, I may try that again later

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I'm looking forward to trying out Hybridrive again though!

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Also, didn't know what attack name Hybridrive Screwdriver had, so I had to improvise by calling it "Titanium Carbide Impact"

stuck summit
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i'm so glad that chromatographagas is a competitively viable card

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it would be such a waste for a card with a design that cool to be bad

dusk sleet
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It's got 2 fusion monsters using it for material, and each one brings on the hurt

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Normal Monster stuff is still in vogue, and I'm all for it

valid cave
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i was doin something

valid cave
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nother card art! looks like the fusion girl isnt the only zombie in the pack?

uncut badger
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Tour guide?

lusty venture
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Schlecht the Rebel

dusk sleet
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Oh hey, Zombie

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That's neat. We do need more of those

dusk sleet
stuck summit
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what even is there to hit

dusk sleet
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Well, considering how a good few tournament results have shown what top decks are, likely something in relation to that.

desert cosmos
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Lilies to 3

uncut badger
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wonder fusion to 3, i can be trusted with it 🙂

valid cave
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new red-eyes support in kp17 - "meteor swarm entry dragon" (no effect yet)

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hm, we givin red-eyes a contact fusion?

dusk sleet
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Innnnnnnteresting

tardy mica
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More meteor dragon support is nice

lusty venture
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ooh new meteor dragon support

wind harbor
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Go Rush dub confirmed to have 151 eps

dusk sleet
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Ayy

wind harbor
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if we're at this stage

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very likely to be officially announced this month

uncut badger
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So 40ish eps remaining, huh

stuck summit
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looks like it

valid cave
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thats a lot, its really going on fur that long huh?

stuck summit
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all of the other yugiohs except for sevens lasted that long so it makes sense

valid cave
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fair bit longer than vrains too

desert cosmos
valid cave
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next march i believe

desert cosmos
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So we still get a new anime announced this jump festa

valid cave
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another set of results from the galaxy cup!

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decks featured are:

  • 4 secret investigator
  • 2 abysskite
  • 2 celeb rose
  • 1 excutie
  • 1 monarch
  • 1 jinzo
  • 1 voltcondor
  • 1 gren maju blaze fiend
  • 1 zombie trap pigeon
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some spice in here!

uncut badger
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Why is the first celeb rose list on time wizard?

valid cave
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well, its raigeki on a light caster! (sometimes)

uncut badger
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I'm surprised at the lack of blue eyes tbh

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I thought that was still good

lusty venture
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ooh celeb rose on time wizard

dusk sleet
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time magick

uncut badger
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fun fact

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a[time wizard]

tender orioleBOT
uncut badger
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the manga artwork had the red ring part being hollow

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with the blue being his cape and the yellow being the background

dusk sleet
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Ooh

uncut badger
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but the anime decided (whether by mistake or not) to have the blue and yellow just be part of his face

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a[time wizard of tomorrow]

uncut badger
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and the design ended up sticking, so time wizard is not hollow anymore

dusk sleet
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Ayyyyy there's a Gaia deck

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Wonder why they picked Cyber-Tech alligator

valid cave
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  • 4 secret investigator
  • 1 pure gaia
  • 1 wonder fusion
  • 1 blue-eyes
  • 1 space yggdrago
dusk sleet
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Also jeez what is up with the Secret Investigator stuff

uncut badger
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how competitive is the galaxy cup btw?

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just to know

stuck summit
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wow people are really going ham with the investigator deck huh

valid cave
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number of participants varies, some are small (~10 people), some are bigger (~50 people), cant really tell which are which from konami's posts, would have to do some digging in other spaces to see people posting about them to find context

dusk sleet
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Oh yeah, Spirawr, you still good to duel?

valid cave
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sure, gimme like 10m?

dusk sleet
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Kay~

valid cave
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oh!

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the side deck rules are fixed now!

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okay i gotta take a second to update my side decks then

dusk sleet
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Oh, thank goodness

valid cave
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@dusk sleet ready now

dusk sleet
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Righto~

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Got a room set up!

valid cave
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i was brewin a custom deck too, but its not ready yet!
maybe sometime later

dusk sleet
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Alright so considering this took like 10 minutes to make I feel comfortable sharing these secrets

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As pointed out, yeah, I got no clue about a lot of these, Dragon's Burst Fusion especially

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It did show a few to-do's, the duel did!

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Also, all these level 7's were just giving me the worst luck. And considering I am, well, me, you can bet that's a recipe for disaster when I draw a whole hand of them and nothing else to work with them

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...Also, man, I really wish Polymerization was more usable, cause this kind of deck could really use it

desert cosmos
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@valid cave so what do u think will be hit this banlist

valid cave
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dunno, not much to hit rn
maybe could hit some of reptile's consistency considering the deck's galaxy cup representation

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mostly lets see some unhits!

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wonder fusion and lily back to 3, bold and ciela and grand extreme back to 2

uncut badger
valid cave
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"tune flutomahawk the music princess"

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sounds like music princess gets another fusion!

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"tune"? are they acknowledging that contact fusion is just synchro summon?

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well, maybe shes not a contact fusion, this is already a fusion deck so she could totally work as a regular fusion...

dusk sleet
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Watch as this is revealed and it's actually a Tuner monster

native osprey
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music princess peepoHappy

tardy mica
valid cave
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https://ygorganization.com/shockingarrival/ https://ygorganization.com/special-victory-pack-2024-volume-2-alternate-artwork-rd-s2a2/ <@&681691144509194284> some of you predicted this fusion! and also, a rather spooky alt art of an old side deck card

Now more doable with Skyscraper. RD/SD0B-JP003 Elemental HERO Thunder Giant Level 6 LIGHT Warrior Fusion Effect Monster ATK 2400 DEF 1500 Materials: “Elemental HERO Sparkman” + “Elemental HERO Clayman”…

It isn’t always better under the sea. RD/S2A2-JP003 Deepsea Hunter (Alternate Artwork) Source: Official Rush Duel YouTube Channel…

lone junco
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Anyone know when go rush is getting dubbed 😦

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I wanna watch it so bad but I don’t have the attention span to read sub

tardy mica
lone junco
tardy mica
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151 episodes confirmed

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So they also inadvertently gave us the length of Go Rush

ocean nymph
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I hope Yudias sounds like playmaker

dusk sleet
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Yeah, there we go, that's the way they do it!

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I do like the cybernetic theming they're going for Rising HERO

tardy mica
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That wouldn’t fit him at all lmao

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Yudias needs to sound young

lusty venture
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Oh neat thunder giant

dusk sleet
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I find it weird how a lot of games can't really decide if Elemental HERO Flame Wingman or Thunder Giant is the one fusion monster to give a lot of focus to

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Like, in Duel Links, Flame Wingman has got a summon video associated with it, but in Legacy of the Duelist, it doesn't, and instead it is Thunder Giant

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Anyways, all these monsters being unable to be Special Summoned gets me thinking about any potential way to reuse them when they land in the Graveyard

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I guess being free picks for stuff that requires shuffling things to the deck as a cost is fine, in case you aren't interested in anything else

ocean nymph
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Probably mess up the name

tardy mica
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Lets avoid anything from Vrains tbh

uncut badger
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Ok but can we get revolver as zwijo tho?

tardy mica
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Zwijo would be a good fit for a Vrains VO

lusty venture
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@dusk sleet down to rush?

dusk sleet
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Sure!

dusk sleet
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Good duel!

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I was really hoping you'd summon anything

lusty venture
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very nice duel

dusk sleet
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Cause Dragonic Domination would have won me the game

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Good call to not make a summon and wait it out!

lusty venture
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I do hope we get a bubbleman fusion soon

dusk sleet
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Yeah!

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Tempest would be cool

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Could work 1:1

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[Elemental HERO Tempest]

tender orioleBOT
# dusk sleet [Elemental HERO Tempest]

level Level: 8
[ Warrior / Fusion / Effect ]

ATK 2800 / DEF 2800

Effect

"Elemental HERO Avian" + "Elemental HERO Sparkman" + "Elemental HERO Bubbleman"
Must be Fusion Summoned and cannot be Special Summoned by other ways. You can send 1 other card you control to the Graveyard to target 1 monster you control; while this card is face-up on the field, that monster cannot be destroyed by battle.

dusk sleet
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Well, maybe

lusty venture
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bubbleman is the weakest hero piece so far, not worth aiming for the draw effect

dusk sleet
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There's nothing like this effect yet, I don't think, but it wouldn't be too terribly hard to keep track of

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Mudballman's alright too

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3000 DEF can be hard to surmount

lusty venture
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Mudballman, the effect monster without an effect

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❤️

dusk sleet
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Ahhh

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Yea!

desert cosmos
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Hell they could buff it

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To send any number

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Then target the same number

lusty venture
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The ocg/tcg version of his art is so different from the anime art

desert cosmos
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I would kill for anime art flame wingman

dusk sleet
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Also mentioned this but there never was a fusion between Avian and Clayman

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There could be!

lusty venture
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Jaden in the dub uses the tcg/ocg art pretty sure

dusk sleet
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Oh yeah, this exists too

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Which was pretty much the inverse of Flame Wingman

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[Elemental HERO Steam Healer]

tender orioleBOT
# dusk sleet [Elemental HERO Steam Healer]

level Level: 5
[ Warrior / Fusion / Effect ]

ATK 1800 / DEF 1000

Effect

"Elemental HERO Burstinatrix" + "Elemental HERO Bubbleman"
Must be Fusion Summoned. If this card destroys a monster by battle and sends it to the GY: Gain LP equal to that monster's original ATK in the GY.

lusty venture
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Note its level 5

desert cosmos
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[Elemental hero mariner]

tender orioleBOT
# desert cosmos [Elemental hero mariner]

level Level: 5
[ Warrior / Fusion / Effect ]

ATK 1400 / DEF 1000

Effect

"Elemental HERO Bubbleman" + "Elemental HERO Avian"
Must be Fusion Summoned and cannot be Special Summoned by other ways. While you have any face-down card(s) in your Spell & Trap Card Zones, this card can attack your opponent directly.

desert cosmos
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I think this one is more likely

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2400 direct attack ain't bad

lusty venture
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In theory print both
Then Argent can reveal Flame Wingman to combo into either with a bubbleman in hand

desert cosmos
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Issue with bubbleman though is that it's not a Normal monster. So no adding it with Rising Hero/Hero Boy

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Kinda wish they turned it into a normal monster for whatever that's worth.

dusk sleet
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Given how many fusion monsters are out in full force, I still wonder why we seen no hide or hair of anything that can be treated as a substitute for a fusion material

desert cosmos
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I think flat out Fusion substitute is just too strong.

dusk sleet
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Mentioned before that stuff like Goddess of the Third Eye, Versago the Destroyer and Beastking of the Swamp are doable 1:1, but there could also be monsters exclusive to Rush Duel that could do the same, albeit possibly with some conditions to meet first

lusty venture
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Symph, you literally played BEWD against me. The fusion subs change their name

dusk sleet
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Ah, yeah

lusty venture
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you also play Gaia

dusk sleet
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Yeah, name changing is a thing

desert cosmos
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We have Red-Eyes Moon Dragon as a specific Fusion substitute

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Well yes and no

dusk sleet
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Was more thinking something that generally can be used as 1 material naming a specific fusion material

desert cosmos
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Red-Eyes Moon Dragon is not a name change

dusk sleet
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But of course, all the other materials must be correct

desert cosmos
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Well not on field at least

dusk sleet
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Yeah, there's a difference between treating it as, and actually changing the name

desert cosmos
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If this card is used as material for a Fusion Summon, its name becomes "Red-Eyes Black Dragon".

dusk sleet
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Blue-Eyes Bright Dragon is treated as Blue-Eyes White Dragon while in the hand, but you have to use it's effect to change it's name outright

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And it's not Blue-Eyes White Dragon at all in the GY

desert cosmos
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Yeh there are a lot of ways to go about it

dusk sleet
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Was thinking Beastking of the Swamp would be the least problematic, since it's type and attribute aren't leading itself too much to other plays

lusty venture
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Im excited to see how the neos fusions change the hero deck

dusk sleet
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Whereas Goddess with the Third Eye is a LIGHT Fairy monster, which would be very, very helpful for Celestial Warrior stuff, as well as Imaginary Actor

desert cosmos
#

Speaking of Fusion sub, Hex-Sealed Fusion would make great legend monsters

dusk sleet
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Wouldn't work, going off OCG rulings

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Like, you can't use Goddess with the Third Eye to Special Summon Chimeratech Fortress Dragon for instance

desert cosmos
dusk sleet
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Ahh

desert cosmos
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You can Summon this card by Contact Fusion (Fusion Summon it by shuffling the above face-up monsters from your field into the owner's Deck as material).

dusk sleet
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Oooh

desert cosmos
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Makes it much simpler imo

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Also the text implies it could still be Summoned by a Fusion spell if you want to.

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So it's a win/win

dusk sleet
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Yeah!

desert cosmos
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Kinda wish this is how contact is treated irl

uncut badger
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Wait

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Argent cant reveal electrum if it ever gets imported

lusty venture
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rush original retrain of electrum?

dusk sleet
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It's more that Electrum's level is higher than 7

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[Elemental HERO Electrum]

tender orioleBOT
# dusk sleet [Elemental HERO Electrum]

level Level: 10
[ Warrior / Fusion / Effect ]

ATK 2900 / DEF 2600

Effect

"Elemental HERO Avian" + "Elemental HERO Burstinatrix" + "Elemental HERO Clayman" + "Elemental HERO Bubbleman"
Must be Fusion Summoned and cannot be Special Summoned by other ways. While face-up on the field, this card is also WIND, WATER, FIRE, and EARTH-Attribute. When this card is Fusion Summoned: Shuffle all banished cards into the Deck(s). This card gains 300 ATK for each monster your opponent controls that shares an Attribute with this card.

dusk sleet
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Though, the effect being very much impossible to use as-is also being a factor

uncut badger
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i just dont want to gamble

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imagine if i excavate clayman or sparkmen when i revealed a burst wingman

dusk sleet
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Yeah, most you will get out of this is a fusion monster using two materials.

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And Neos, I guess

uncut badger
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can we get uhhhhhh

dusk sleet
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There's a few other monsters that uses Argent's effect

uncut badger
#

tempest pls?

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[hero tempest]

tender orioleBOT
# uncut badger [hero tempest]

level Level: 8
[ Warrior / Fusion / Effect ]

ATK 2800 / DEF 2800

Effect

"Elemental HERO Avian" + "Elemental HERO Sparkman" + "Elemental HERO Bubbleman"
Must be Fusion Summoned and cannot be Special Summoned by other ways. You can send 1 other card you control to the Graveyard to target 1 monster you control; while this card is face-up on the field, that monster cannot be destroyed by battle.

uncut badger
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this seems adaptable

dusk sleet
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You can for example, I believe get stuff like Hero of the Sweep, Hero of the Assist, and others, due to it being a warrior monster

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Tempest could be cool

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It's not a valid target for Rising HERO Argent, but it at least gives Bubbleman something to do

uncut badger
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wait

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argent is only 5-7

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AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

dusk sleet
#

6-7, at that

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So unfortunately you cannot call Flame Swordsman

uncut badger
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Wait

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6-7?

dusk sleet
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Yep

uncut badger
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Why does it get worse every time i read it

dusk sleet
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It's actually really good for how narrow it is

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You can use it in tandem with Avian Spell Tactics, to guaranteed you at least get something

desert cosmos
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The fact that Shining flare wingman is going to used that text kills me

stuck summit
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they should really just bite the bullet and add archetypes to the game

valid cave
valid cave
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they still could, though cards haven't been designed around it so it'd be very hard to use for legacy support

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but i don't think they should, i think they just shouldn't try to adapt something like hero accurately

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just accept that a card like skyscraper can be used more generically than it can be in the tcg

wind harbor
valid cave
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"rising hero tantalum"

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alright, kp17 has a lot of hero huh

desert cosmos
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Totally a contact fusion

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Rising hero... more like cyber hero

wind harbor
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nah, this has the levsl 5 that gains 500 atk vibes...

valid cave
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true

lusty venture
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its main issue is that it requires 4 monsters, so either you are using polymerization or they have to print a rush equivalent of miracle fusion

dusk sleet
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Oh yeah

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Admittedly would be a good case for wanting Polymerization.

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I'm still holding out for any practical use for that spell card. It being a Legend card really holds it back, since you'd usually want to use anything else, like Graceful Charity or Dark Hole

uncut badger
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Question

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Can dragias activate its effect when you're going first?

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(Turn 1)

stuck summit
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yes iirc

uncut badger
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Weird

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DL didnt let me for whatever reason

valid cave
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no

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it can't

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cause you can't attack on the first turn and the effect does nothing unless it attacks

uncut badger
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It lets me mill a card comfySnek

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Good to know tho

valid cave
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sure but thats requirement and not effect!

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im pretty sure if it was "req: none, effect: mill a card, also if this card destroys a monster it can attack again" youd be able to activate it turn 1

dusk sleet
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Ahhh

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Alright, good to know

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As a general rule though, what sort of effects cannot be activated on the first turn?

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I imagine simple ATK and DEF increases are fine, but anything that you have to go to the battle phase to use cannot work

valid cave
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yeah, any effect where the only things it does don't affect a property read by the game & is dependent on battle phase to do anything can't be activated on t1
that includes dragias and anything that gives piercing

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if the effect also increases atk, you can activate it t1; straight pierce can be activated t1, pierce can't

dusk sleet
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Righto

valid cave
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notably that also doesn't just apply to t1, it applies to any situation where you can't attack

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if dragias can't attack that turn for one reason or another you can't use its effect

dusk sleet
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Righto

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...I guess just in case they're plotting on introducing like, I guess effects that make your opponent skip the battle phase

uncut badger
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Negate attack's wording gets kinda awkward if that happens

rare silo
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RD/SJMP-JP041 ジョインテック・プライムレックス Jointech Praime Rex
Level 7 LIGHT Machine Effect Monster
ATK 2500
DEF 1500
This card can be Tribute Summoned in Attack Position by Tributing 1 monster, but this card’s original ATK becomes 1800 if you do.
[REQUIREMENT] Shuffle 3 LIGHT monsters from your GY into the Deck.
[EFFECT] Choose 1 Level 4 or higher face-up monster on your opponent’s field and decrease its Level by up to 3 until the end of the turn, then, you can choose 1 card in your opponent’s Spell & Trap Zone and destroy it.

dusk sleet
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Dinosaurs!

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Er

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Dino robots!

valid cave
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o.o

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interesting, so it also lets you fuse more things off with praime dwarf in addition to the pop huh?

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notably the change means it can't pop unless the opponent has a face-up monster though

lusty venture
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There is your praime rex

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❤️

dusk sleet
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Y'know, these level manipulation effects are surprisingly few in number, at least concerning your opponent's monsters

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I guess this is intented to be used in tandem with Praime Dwarf

valid cave
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ey @dusk sleet, you able to duel rn?

dusk sleet
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Oh! Sorry about that, I was very asleep

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We can try again later though!

valid cave
lusty venture
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whyyyyyyyyyyy

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"No fusions"

goes in with heroes

uncut badger
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Big level 4s i guess

valid cave
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with skyscraper to make them much bigger!

lusty venture
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I had to beat them up with garzett

valid cave
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ey summer, you up to play against a custom deck? :3

lusty venture
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not at the moment

dusk sleet
valid cave
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alr!
im in a game rn but ill ping when?

dusk sleet
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Whenever's fine!

valid cave
dusk sleet
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I'm here!

valid cave
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alr!
you host?

dusk sleet
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Sure!

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Got it hosted!

dusk sleet
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It was a cool series of cards!

lusty venture
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Ha funny coincidence

dusk sleet
lusty venture
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"The power of love always so strong" KEKW

lusty venture
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why I dont like dueling randos

dusk sleet
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Some people are too mean about Rush Duel

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Admittedly in the case of custom duel on DB there probably ought to be some way to check a box to indicate that the duel will be done in a certain game mode (Not just Rush Duel, but Speed Duels too)

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Custom Duel already makes adjustments if each player has a rush duel deck, but this way it may successfully show that the hosted game will be done in a rush format

lusty venture
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yeah the best I can do is say "this is a rush duel" with the current system

dusk sleet
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Also, Mask of Darkness? Crush Card Virus? What?

lusty venture
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true

dusk sleet
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Something does tell me that if someone else went in this duel with like, a very modern deck they would have said something like “you know there’s a mode for rated duel” or whatever, but I don’t know

valid cave
lusty venture
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I did

desert cosmos
dusk sleet
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Had a need to see if Ojama's in Rush Duel could be realized

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Obviously you'd kinda have to omit Ojama King, cause that would be cracked beyond belief, but other than that, would be interesting

valid cave
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theyre likely at some point!

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but yeah, theyll definitely need new bosses, that stuff isnt fun

stuck summit
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i could see delta hurricane getting printed

valid cave
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(i played in a mini tournament once that used goat format's cardpool and rush duel rules... it quickly devolved into ojama king turbo)

stuck summit
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how would you feel if ojama lime got a card but it was rush duel exclusive

valid cave
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oh id love that

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the memes would be excellent!

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come play rush duel we have ojama lime

dusk sleet
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Ooooh

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That would honestly be a great way to get people to play rush duel

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Just cause Ojama Lime is finally a real thing

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Would make sense too, considering how Ojama Red cannot really arrive 1:1, and Ojama Blue just can't work as is

desert cosmos
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I don't think Konami considers ojama lime that much if a meme

dusk sleet
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I just remembered that Widespread Ruin exists

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...I don't rightfully know why it exists though.

valid cave
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...fur duel links!

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honestly, that might actually be the reason they printed it, considering it came out when we already had mirror force

dusk sleet
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Ahhh

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Yeah you'd think by now there would be something that works with it, but none so far

desert cosmos
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Primal Collision
[Normal Trap]
[Requirement] When your opponent Normal or Special Summons a monster, and they Normal or Special Summoned 7 or more monsters this turn.
[Effect] Send all monsters on the field to the GY. Then, each player can Special Summon 1 monster from their GY to their field. 
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How much op would this be

stuck summit
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bad

valid cave
dusk sleet
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Oh yeaaaaaaah

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hooooly crap it's Miracle Fusion

uncut badger
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FREED

dusk sleet
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And Freed the Brave Wanderer!

uncut badger
dusk sleet
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Yeah, very funny reveals, shows us Quaking Mirror Force right after I have the worst luck dealing with it in a previous duel

uncut badger
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Wait does miracle shuffle into the deck or does it banish?

tardy mica
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Probably the former?

Or place on bottom of deck

valid cave
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Miracle Fusion, spell
[requirement] none
[effect] fusion summon a warrior type monster that can only be summoned by fusion summon, by returning monsters from your field or graveyard to the bottom of their owners' decks as material

Freed the Brave Wanderer, lv4 light warrior/effect 1700/1200 (legend)
[requirement] return 2 light monsters from your graveyard to the bottom of your deck in any order
[effect] destroy 1 face-up monster on your opponent's field with higher atk than this card's atk

Quaking Mirror Force, trap (legend)
[requirement] when an opponent's monster declares an attack
[effect] change all face-up monsters on your opponent's field to face-down defense position

dusk sleet
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Oooh

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Ok yeah these are nice

valid cave
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quaking notably changes face-up def monsters face-down, and also is missing the perma-stun effect

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while miracle fusion... doesn't do the skyscraper thing thankfully!

dusk sleet
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I'm super suprised that Miracle Fusion isn't a LEGEND card

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Like, what, Polymerization is, but Miracle Fusion isn't?

tardy mica
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Miracle fusion is locked to stuff that can only be fusion summoned

uncut badger
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Yea miracle is more "archetypal"

dusk sleet
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Yeah, that's a good way to restrict it

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All Elemental HERO fusion monsters, for better or worse have that restriction

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I still do want more than just Flame Wingman and Thunder Giant, though. Mighty curious if stuff such as Steam Healer, Mariner or Tempest can be expected

desert cosmos
valid cave
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er, it can't summon most fusions

desert cosmos
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I don't think the text means what you think it means

dusk sleet
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They need to be fusion monsters that can only be summoned by fusion summon

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Which, means pretty much all Elemental HERO monsters. You can't for example, summon Hero of the Sweep with this

valid cave
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lemme put a comma in there

[effect] fusion summon a warrior type monster that can only be summoned by fusion summon, by returning monsters from your field or graveyard to the bottom of their owners' decks as material

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it can only summon the monsters that have to be fusion summoned (the hero fusions)

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and its effect is to summon them by returning their materials to bottom

desert cosmos
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I mean that's how all heroe fusions are like, except the neos ones we have not seen.

valid cave
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it might still be able to summon those, since contact fusion is a fusion summon!

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depending on how they're phrased

desert cosmos
dusk sleet
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Ok, so apparently Quaking Mirror Force doesn't prevent your opponent from flipping any monsters that just got destroyed from being flip summoned back up

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Still, pretty dangerous and can get around some situations

valid cave
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yeah quaking is a big downgrade from the irl version

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its unlikely to see any serious play irl, feels like theyre putting it here so they can add it to duel links later

dusk sleet
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Side deck card, honestly

valid cave
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side deck it where?

dusk sleet
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It's not bad there all things considered, but you don't use it unless you're certain Mirror Force can't stop an opponent's usual workaround to destruction

valid cave
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any situation it prevents could be avoided by shiny shady instead

dusk sleet
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The side deck, of course!

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There's only one side deck!

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...Oh, you mean, like, using it in general

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Considering how you use it during the battle phase, if it does go off, it's too late for your opponent to attempt to fix the situation

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I imagine it would be better at home in decks made to capitalize on turtling

valid cave
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it plays into a lot more though

dusk sleet
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I think Musical Princess does a lot of that

valid cave
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loses to any main phase removal compared to a card like shiny shady, while shady answers everything this couldve answered

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and it takes up your legend slot!

dusk sleet
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Who knows, maybe a deck that makes use of really flipping things face-down

valid cave
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yeah that's the only case it's really worth considering - if you care about the opponent's stuff being set, somehow

dusk sleet
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Yeah, Shiny Shady does this, but you can only have 3 of them in a deck

valid cave
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yeah, but you can only have 1 legend card, and its not really worth burning your legend slot on redundancy when you could spend it on a more unique power card that cant be replicated

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similarly if your deck has an in-theme mirror force effect, you probably play cylinder and dont include the original mirror in main or side

dusk sleet
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What I'm confused about is this:

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Why Quaking Mirror Force, in a Structure Deck on Elemental HERO?

valid cave
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well... is there a more fitting typal legend they couldve released instead?

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otherwise, it's just a generic legend, and intentionally a weak legend in the cheap structure so that you spend more $$$ on getting a better one!

dusk sleet
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Gimme a sec, p sure Jaden has some very cool trap card he used

valid cave
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(and i also suspect it's a duel links plant, this is a very convenient place to plant a legend fur duel links)

dusk sleet
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Well, there's [Draining Shield]

tender orioleBOT
dusk sleet
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Pretty much the inverse of Magic Cylinder

valid cave
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oh true that couldve worked
and would also be a nice duel links plant!

dusk sleet
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Aside that, there's (using stuff that could go 1:1 in Rush Duel):

Final Fusion
Staunch Defender
A Hero Emerges

And if we're going off of cards that actually are in Rush Duel, Negate Attack

uncut badger
dusk sleet
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Yep, though, can't exactly port in counter traps

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Well, some of them, at least, it made sense for Negate Attack

valid cave
dusk sleet
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Ahhh

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Yeah, I can see why

uncut badger
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Last turn as a legend

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Let's go

dusk sleet
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Final Fusion is devastating, but realistically only goes off under specific situations, Staunch Defender is pretty much like Call of the Earthbound, and A Hero Emerges is just RNG stuff

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Then again, Jaden also, just straight up had Mirror Force too

valid cave
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realistically, hero emerges isn't rng - you probably resolve it with only 1 card in hand (neos) to guarantee it

uncut badger
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Jaden had a weirdly high amount of staples

valid cave
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but, then it's like, a worse version of dragon encounter??

uncut badger
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PoG, sollemn, mirror force, honest

dusk sleet
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Yeah, it's surprising

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This is the quality you'd expect from Obelisk Blue, not Slifer Red students

uncut badger
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Tbf he only got red because he did the exam late

dusk sleet
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Yep

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No helping that, it would seem

uncut badger
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Oh yea

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He also had dandylion

dusk sleet
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It's a neat card, but there's no prescedent for tokens just yet in rush duel!

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But, if there was, then it would be cool

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Also, Dandylion's got more meaning than just being a good card; it's one he designed himself, if memory serves. And then it became a real card.

uncut badger
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Thinking about it

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Is there any rush duel card that creates tokens?

valid cave
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nope

uncut badger
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Hmm

dusk sleet
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No scapegoat shenanigans, either

uncut badger
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Stray lambs import when

dusk sleet
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We'll need to wait for Patsy Ewes

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Stray Lambs would be neat

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[Stray Lambs]

tender orioleBOT
# dusk sleet [Stray Lambs]
Effect

Special Summon 2 "Lamb Tokens" (Beast/EARTH/Level 1/ATK 0/DEF 0) in Defense Position. You cannot Summon other monsters the turn you activate this card (but you can Set).

dusk sleet
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Bonus points if somehow Ewekai uses these

uncut badger
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So

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Shat makes reptiles so good at the moment?

dusk sleet
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Possibly the sheer recovery they got

uncut badger
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That one field nuke they have sounds decent but