rush_duels

[dusk sleet]

Usually is done with monsters more often, since Spell cards are usually very potent enough that it's the one card you will use.

Like say, swapping out Mirage Dragon for something else if you get the feeling your opponent doesn't have as much trap cards as you'd thought

[valid cave]

it's going to be dependent on your deck in no small part, lot of decks have cards within their deck or best usable by their deck that are better in side
in general though

essel for going second in a bo3, prison island for vs harpie and cutie are 2 easy includes

alt legends are always good to have in there, yeah

[dusk sleet]

Yeah, Mad Rare Aquilia is a good example

You don't really use it unless you know your opponent has a bunch of level 6 monsters

[valid cave]

between cylinder, mirror and compulse you probably want at least 1 of them in side to swap to - compulse in particular is less likely to be mained now that you have shiny shady in main to check fusions

[dusk sleet]

I honestly thought it was Harpie related at first, but it turns out the whole level 6 thing is owing to Mad Rare Aqulia being a sort of archnemesis of sorts to Excutie

[valid cave]

monster reborn, dark hole, heavy storm - likely at least one of these that isn't in main will go in side

monsters are a little less likely to side now that snipe hunter is your answer to everything

but you can still swap in a raiza or vanity's

[dusk sleet]

DB is really weird about this though, since the way it's coded, you can only have 1 each of a legend card in the Main and Side decks

Still hasn't been fixed yet, weirdly enough

[valid cave]

over rush storm and shiny shady can be maindeck material, but if they're not in main you can side them. some alternative traps are worth looking at too though, shady isn't effective against all decks (lines up poorly into cutie in particular), but which ones are usually dependent on your deck

[valid cave]

she used to be very common in main at least! but theres not really any decks with that much monster staple space anymore, other things take priority as staple monsters now

in wonder fusion meta, a recurrable double attacker (that also could occasionally just snipe a vanity's fiend) was a powerhouse

but yeah shes side deck material now, though only really useful against cutie. dependent on how much you fear that deck specifically

can be awkward to side because prison island is generally the first thing dedicated to that matchup, since prison also hits harpie and some other things too, aquila is more niche and it's awkward to dedicate 5-6 slots to just a single matchup

although, shed be preferred over prison if you're in a deck that uses a lot of lv5/6 mons yourself!

like in cutie i keep her in pocket fur the mirror

[dusk sleet]

Ahhh! neat!

[uncut badger]

alright

i made a deck

anyone wanna play a match?

[dusk sleet]

I may!

Well, unless Spirawr wants to

[valid cave]

i can't at the moment

[dusk sleet]

Ah

I play stuff on DB, if you want to do a go-around

[uncut badger]

Alright

hosting in db

[dusk sleet]

Ahh ok

[uncut badger]

password is "rush"

[dusk sleet]

Give me a sec!

[uncut badger]

alr

[dusk sleet]

Annnd here!

[dusk sleet]

Nice dueling~!

[uncut badger]

this was fun

[dusk sleet]

Ye

[uncut badger]

60 cards eh

[dusk sleet]

Ehhh yeah, I might cut down that much cards

50 may be more ideal

Ideally having more cards in the GY helps Shadow Ghoul and Caesarleon, but I think 60 is like, too much for me

[uncut badger]

this was my deck

[dusk sleet]

Pretty nice!

[uncut badger]

i may or may not have sided in those clown snakes

[dusk sleet]

Normal Monsters are very much in vogue in Rush Duel, so there's a lot of stuff to do with em

[uncut badger]

yea!

[dusk sleet]

I think Summer has a few ideas you can try with the Imaginary Actor theme, involving Praime stuff

[uncut badger]

your deck also looked pretty fun

[dusk sleet]

...Oh yeah, if you need cards that were likely revealed but not made in DB yet, you can hit up Spirawr

Just go to custom cards and put in "Spirare - Rush Duel", and look up under All Custom Cards

[uncut badger]

i see

[dusk sleet]

We usually do Custom Duel for those cases, since DB is pretty notorious about being behind on rush duel stuff

[uncut badger]

naruhodo

[dusk sleet]

[uncut badger]

i wonder if 8 dragons is too little for a dragon tribe package

[dusk sleet]

Here's my more recent zombie pile-mess-thing

...It's a mess, but it can work, it's just a matter of milling a whole bunch

[uncut badger]

only 2 lemmings?

[dusk sleet]

Yeah, i dunno where that 3rd one went.

Hmm!

[uncut badger]

also wait is that lab wall?

[dusk sleet]

Yeah, it's a card that exists now

Sadly, no way to merge Shadow Ghoul with it

Yet

[uncut badger]

interesting

[dusk sleet]

Had to replace Yaranzo and Sunset Rebirth with a few official stuff in the DB database, but the deck I used more or less worked the same

[uncut badger]

i wonder if there's some generic support that benefits metallions

i could use some help seeing imaginary actor more often

[dusk sleet]

There's Parallel Birth Gate

It summons 2 Normal Monsters if you meet thr cost and requirement

https://yugipedia.com/wiki/Parallel_Birth_Gate

[uncut badger]

oh that's cool

[dusk sleet]

So, set Fusion and other cards, then use this when you got the space

Any LIGHT support, like those with Praime can also work

[uncut badger]

interesting

[dusk sleet]

Type Change beam could be used by preference: A lot of Metarion cards are super rude towards monsters of a certain type

[uncut badger]

Oh yea right TCB works on opponent's monsters

[dusk sleet]

All you gotta do is show a card of a certain type to the opponent, which you will proceed to fusion summon with if you can

[valid cave]

legend magician/legend strike is a strong generic package that can help you find specific things

i also like the tech of animagica leader!

[dusk sleet]

Yeah, having 2 each is still very good, since it puts thins in the GY, plus you can destroy spells/traps

And Animagical Leader, yeah

[valid cave]

accel wonder light+secret of manifestation is an engine option too

[dusk sleet]

https://yugipedia.com/wiki/Animagica_Leader

[uncut badger]

hmm

[dusk sleet]

Key thing to note is, your fusion monsters are all level 9, so this downside may not really be too much a downside

[uncut badger]

i may have ran into a slight issue

of having too much engine space

unless i drop the gate order package

and dragon tribe ig

[dusk sleet]

Ahhh

Dragias and Metarion can work together, but I suppose using both could squeeze the deck space

[uncut badger]

yea

metallion by itself is taking 18 of my deck slots

not counting stuff like amazing dealer

[dusk sleet]

Admittedly you may not really need Galactaria Oblivion all that much, since The Dragias does fine enough for a 2500 ATK monster

There are fusions that use it though, and those ones only need LIGHT monsters

[uncut badger]

yea it's kinda just there as a 4th gate name

[valid cave]

can cut a juggler or 2 too

[dusk sleet]

Which you got a bunch of

[uncut badger]

light galaxy monsters

unfortunately

[dusk sleet]

Ahhh yeah

I forgot

[uncut badger]

but yea

guess i'm not out of engine options

i'll have to test those later

[dusk sleet]

Summer has a Metarion deck too, could ask her if you need advice~

[uncut badger]

i guess my side deck also needs some work

[lusty venture]

wait huh

[lusty venture]

https://ygorganization.com/may-1st-2023-deck-recipes/

[dusk sleet]

Oooh

[uncut badger]

interesting

[dusk sleet]

I might do something really stupid later

That is, port over a whole bunch of old normal monsters from the OCG over to Rush Duels in DB, and see how different things can get

Like, I have no doubt that something like, Battle Steer or Sand Stone is not gonna shake things up in the slightest

But it'd be funny

[uncut badger]

the era of 2k defenders

[rare silo]

https://ygorganization.com/alsobookofmoon/ <@&681691144509194284>

RD/KP17-JP060 Spyce Cross – Secret Recipe
Normal Trap Card
[REQUIREMENT] When your opponent Normal or Special Summons a monster, shuffle 2 Cyberse monsters from your GY into the Deck.
[EFFECT] Choose 1 face-up Level 9 or lower monster on the opponent’s field and change it to face-down Defense Position, then, you can choose 1 card in your opponent’s GY and place it on the top or bottom of your opponent’s Deck.

[lusty venture]

thats pretty good

[rare silo]

https://ygorganization.com/2024-jump-victory-carnival-promo-confirmed-rush-duel/

[dusk sleet]

Ayyyyy nice

[Luster Dragon #2]

[tender oriole]

Luster Dragon #2

Level: 6
[ Dragon / Normal ]

ATK 2400 / DEF 1400

Effect

This dragon feeds on emerald. Enchanted by this monster even when attacked, few people live to tell of its beauty.

F/L Status: Unlimited (TCG/OCG/MD)

[uncut badger]

how popular is ghost cyclone and word working currently?

[stuck summit]

ghost cyclone is still good

[lusty venture]

a bit random of a promo, but still cool

retrain possibly?

[stuck summit]

"if luster dragon is so good why isn't there a luster dragon 2"

[valid cave]

unlikely, the name is still エメラルド・ドラゴン emerarudo doragon

and since it's a vanilla there's not really space to rebalance the effects, because. there are no effects

just a question of if it'll get the luster dragon treatment or the magnet warrior treatment

[valid cave]

ghost cyclone mostly sees play in decks built around cattrois choice, like dark caster; it's no longer good as a side deck option in other decks
word working also isn't played anymore, it used to be strong in wonder fusion era but it's not all that effective against any good deck currently and shiny shady is much more reliable

[uncut badger]

I see

So currently over rush storm is the side deck backrow removal of choice?

[valid cave]

i'd personally still prefer your in-type mst spell if applicable, like dragon's inferno - or just jest of the cosmos princess
most people would evaluate over rush storm higher though, and if you don't have a good in-type mst then yeah

[dusk sleet]

Remove Trap’s a thing too

Unlike the OCG, it’s pretty much a foiling of De-Spell: flip card up and destroy it if it’s a trap card

Won’t do anything to spell cards though, so mileage may vary: it’s probably best to stick to in-type means of dealing with spells and traps

[valid cave]

yeah its surprisingly decent, but spells are still relevant to deny and i dont think the fail rate when using it blind is acceptable

[dusk sleet]

At least you’ll know what’s coming!

[uncut badger]

Isnt sea dragon knight just remove trap but better?

[valid cave]

no, because it relies on them having a card with the same name in grave

legends are completely immune, and it only really kills relevant traps in the lategame - assuming the opponent doesn't diversify their interaction

(which, tbf, they probably don't because sea dragon knight is rarely played now. when it was released, a backrow lineup of all 1-ofs was very common to see)

[uncut badger]

I see

[uncut badger]

Do current sevens roads builds run regular fusion or still just the 2 copies of sevens wonder fusion?

[valid cave]

depends on build - you'll have to run regular fusion if you want to use the new witch stuff

[uncut badger]

I see

Fear magician also looks pretty nice

Also, magician and witch aside, do people even currently run the other 5 sevens road monsters?

I know mage used to see play, but it seems like it fell off

[valid cave]

...4?

there are 7 sevens roads!

[uncut badger]

Sorry, didnt count mage for some reason

[valid cave]

sorcerer and enchanter are the 2 good ones
but enchanter isn't really played in sevens road, it's used to loop other casters like e.g. absolute lord of d in blue-eyes
sorcerer kinda fell off cause hes unnecessary if you're playing wonder fusion turbo, but might be worthwhile again in a charm witch build?

[uncut badger]

I see

Btw

Did miragias and metagias ever see play?

[valid cave]

not really

though building around metagiastar was fun post-fusion

[uncut badger]

Got it

[valid cave]

miragias saying "level 7 or lower" at a time when yamiruler was relevant is rough

[uncut badger]

Why is there like

No good generic non legend wind monsters?

I want to get the full 1800 atk modulation but having to either run only raiza or areo sorc is hard to justify

[valid cave]

are you playing charm witch or no?

if you are, then draco the hand sewn is excellent

otherwise there's poet fairy

progress potter used to be good, not so much anymore not when semi limited anyway

[uncut badger]

I'm trying both to build both a witch variant and a witchless variant to see what i like better

any good fire recommendations btw?

[valid cave]

...phoenix dragon dragias

both versions will still want wonder fusion into sevensgias

[uncut badger]

I guess

But hard fusion sevensgias feels kinda highrolly

Do i run like

1 transamu rainac and that one leopard for more fusion targets?

Maybe roadstar as well

Hmmm

I could also run 1 shadow lurker since its another level 7 for ship

[valid cave]

nah in charm witch you want both

because wonder fusion is the best add back off charm witch's effect

[uncut badger]

Hmm

I see

Do people still run mirage dragon / pitch black werewolf as their legend monster in SRM?

[valid cave]

also, 1 rainac isn't useful

transamuroad wants multiple galaxy normals to work

wonder fusion into transamuroad doesnt do much with only 1 galaxy, regular fusion into transamuroad isnt reliable

so you probably run 0 rainac

gearpard's an option! chariot is pretty good

some builds run it some dont

[uncut badger]

Ok so

Unironically

Darkness zerorogue + dark sevens doesnt sound that bad?

Considering i'm on magician, fear magician, witch, and (maybe) warlock

[dusk sleet]

Sevens Road Enchanter is, yeah, you use it to loop spellcasters

A lot of abuse is opened up through using it with Absolute Lord of D. and Legend Magician, mostly

Actually throwing back Sevens Road Magician isn't too wise

[valid cave]

unless you use it in side deck to throw back your opponent's sevens road magician!

[dusk sleet]

...Wait, you can do it to your opponent?

Oooooh.

[valid cave]

that's a big use of the card yeah

can kill any spellcaster fusion for no cost

good against celeb rose

[dusk sleet]

That's actually very cool!

...And now I just remembered I could have won a Duel against Summer had I remembered to do this, arg

Or at the least, make a better comeback!

Really, the least helpful one of the bunch is Sevens Road Wiz

It's very rare that you could just get Sevens Road Wiz to the exact same ATK as a monster on your opponent's field.

[valid cave]

why does wiz exist

[dusk sleet]

Not impossible, but it's a rare situation

And it looks like this

[uncut badger]

The day that wiz becomes usable by its own merits is the day that the moon exploes

[dusk sleet]

p[Sevens Road Wiz]

[tender oriole]

Sevens Road Wiz

Level: 1
[ Spellcaster / Effect ]

ATK 1000 / DEF 0

Effect

Change the original ATK of 1 face-up Level 8 or lower monster on your opponent's field with the same ATK with this card to 0 until the end of this turn. Then, if you have "Sevens Road Magician" in your Graveyard, you can draw 1 card.

F/L Status: Unreleased (TCG/OCG), Unlimited (MD)

[dusk sleet]

You'd think he'd be way more annoying

[uncut badger]

Reminder that wiz came after p[sevens road mage]

[tender oriole]

Sevens Road Mage

Level: 2
[ Spellcaster / Effect ]

ATK 800 / DEF 800

Effect

1 face-up Level 7 or higher monster on your opponent's field loses 400 ATK until the end of this turn. Then, it loses additional number of Spellcaster Type monsters in your Graveyard] x 100 ATK until the end of this turn, if you have "Sevens Road Magician" face-up on your field.

F/L Status: Unreleased (TCG/OCG), Unlimited (MD)

[dusk sleet]

Sevens Road Mage was pretty nice, giving you a good way to reduce the ATK of something

Of course, this was before the advent of levels going way higher than 8, so this affected a lot of things back then

About the few common things that it wasn't gonna affect was a couple of Royal Rebel's monsters, Blue-Eyes White Dragon, and Yamiruler the Dark Delayer

Still an alright monster

[valid cave]

mage says higher, not lower!

it used to be an amazing staple because it hits everything and is completely generic

[dusk sleet]

Oh!

Higher!

Yeah, ok yeah, that's much better

Most any level 6 or lower monsters usually aren't gonna warrant atk reduction anyways, save for Lily or Great Maju Garzett

In that case, yeah, Mage is usually the better of the support, along with Enchanter

[valid cave]

which of course didnt exist during the time that mage was good

[uncut badger]

Btw, what maximums saw comp play aside from abysskraken and harpies?

[dusk sleet]

FIRE Fiend stuff, seems like

[valid cave]

nope

[dusk sleet]

A lot of them were practically tailor-made to utilize maximum summons

[valid cave]

blaze fiend sucks

[dusk sleet]

...And I use that loosely, cause even then it's not really that flattering

[valid cave]

excavator was decent on release, beasteam and volcalize were rogue

uh, i dont recall if dynarmix was ever competitive? though it was the best maximum to exist for a while

[dusk sleet]

I really wish there was more news places to keep track with these

Arg

[uncut badger]

If only people also had the plot armor irl to always draw the 3 pieces at once instead of 1 at a time

[dusk sleet]

Honestly, even Nail was semi-aware of that, so his deck was like

Specifically constructed to allow the best possible odds of actually getting all 3 parts of Yggdrago the Sky Emperor in the hand, as quick as possible.

Going off what I remember

[uncut badger]

Yea

[dusk sleet]

So, even in SEVENS and GO RUSH!!, duelists are rather aware of these odds

[uncut badger]

Funnily enough

[valid cave]

and then he still mostly drew them 3 at a time outside of his first duel

weve already seen that song and dance once, dont need to waste screen time on that!

[uncut badger]

The biggest issue of ship magnum overroad is that its a maximum

Since it was almost always used a combo piece rather than a big beater

[uncut badger]

Not enough to actually run more than 1 copy of each

But that's the anime logic i guess

[dusk sleet]

Ehhh yeah!

Anime Logic!

[valid cave]

well, in sevens at least its suggested that only 1 of each maximum exists

almost all of them were obtained through very unique means

[dusk sleet]

Oh yeah!

[uncut badger]

Neil probably could code in another yggdrago if he got 3 more blank cards, no?

[valid cave]

oh yeah, weren't maximums made of people or something in go rush?

[dusk sleet]

Didn't they literally had to be dug up from the ground, in the case of some of them?

[uncut badger]

Yes

[dusk sleet]

Ahh

[valid cave]

well, he got them from id cards specifically

[uncut badger]

Yudias' maximum was made with the same method as the first magnum overroad

[valid cave]

he beat up 5 of the top of hexagon to get 5 id cards, and turned 3 of them into yggdrago

[dusk sleet]

oh hey speaking of maximum I just remembered a cool custom card I did

[valid cave]

i guess he couldve made dupes of, like, just the left and right pieces

[dusk sleet]

Gimme a sec to fish it up from the custom card corner

[uncut badger]

He couldnt

The other 2 ids he got werent in good enough condition to be converted into cards

[valid cave]

oh yeah 2 of them got rejected for some reason

[uncut badger]

But nothing in the show forbids neil from making more yggdragos if he managed to get more good ids

[dusk sleet]

Level 10 / DARK
Machine / Maximum / Effect
You can Maximum Summon this card together with "Chimeratech Maximum Dragon [L]" and "Chimeratech Maximum Dragon [R]".
Requirement: Pay half your LP.
Effect: Until the end of this turn, your opponent cannot activate Trap Cards, also if this card is in Maximum Mode, This card can make up to 3 attacks on monsters during this turn.

ATK: 2400 / DEF: 0
MAXIMUM ATK: 0```


```Chimeratech Maximum Dragon [L]
Level 10 / DARK
Machine / Maximum / Effect
Requirement: Maximum Mode: Shuffle up to 5 Machine Type Monsters from your GY to your deck.
Effect: This card gains ATK equal to [the number of monsters shuffled into the Deck to meet the requirement] x 1000 until the end of your opponent's next turn. If you shuffled a Machine Type Fusion monster into your extra deck with this effect, this card gains an additional 1000 ATK for each Machine Type Fusion Monster shuffled to the extra deck.
ATK: 2400 / DEF: 0```


```Chimeratech Maximum Dragon [R]
Level 10 / DARK
Machine / Maximum / Effect
Requirement: None
Continuous Effect: If this monster attacks a Defense Position monster, inflict piercing battle damage (if the ATK of the attacking monster exceeds the DEF of the attack target, inflict the difference).
ATK: 2400 / DEF: 0```

Always figured that if they did one for Cyber Dragon, it would be akin to the Chimeratech sub-series they had in the OCG

[uncut badger]

But yea a lot of sevens' inner mechanics related to card printing is left very vague

[dusk sleet]

Yep

[uncut badger]

Also funny how in the first arc yuga almost lost the duel because at the time sevens road magician was considered a fake card since no other copies existed

And then maximums happen and no one brings it up

And then a fusion spell falls into yuga's duel disk mid duel and its also fair play

[dusk sleet]

Yeah, they do play very loose with what's exactly fair and not

But, it works nevertheless

[stuck summit]

love sevens's nonsensical rulings like "playtest cards are tournament legal", "you can have fake cards in your deck but if you draw them you lose", and "if a card falls out of the sky and lands on your deck, you can use it in the current duel"

[uncut badger]

Forcing the opponent to draw cards so that they get dq'd for the use of fakes is a crackhead wincon and i love it

Oh yea its also implied in sevens that fusion monster cards dont exist and they just materialize when you use a fusion spell

Somehow

[valid cave]

thats just how fusions always work in the anime though

it gets a little weird when you actually see the fusion monster card though!

[uncut badger]

Arent they physical cards in 5ds-vrains?

I know that in dm and gx they follow the same logic as sevens

But in the other ones they just get treated as regular cards no?

Its also funny to think about how duel disks have no location for the extra deck so duelists just use their regular pockets to store their ed cards

Someone could play literally every single super polymerization target while having 50 situational rank 4s in their "extra deck" and you would never know

Thinking about it

Do things like storm access let you explicitly break the extra deck limit?

We know that the limit of 15 also probably exists in vrains due to playmaker summoning exactly 15 times from the ed during his duel with ai

[valid cave]

probably! they do in duel links

[uncut badger]

Fair point actually

[dusk sleet]

Just realized

Choccy plays Rush Duel

We can finally do Tag Duels in DB

It probably will not play well at all with only 3 spots for every kind of card, but it’s possible!

[valid cave]

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Twitter · May 3, 2024, 9:30 AM

Stone Machine Gareking, lv7 rock/effect 2500/1400
[requirement] if you have 2 rock type normal monsters on your field, mill 1
[effect] this card gains 1400 atk until the end of this turn. if you have 3 face-up level 5-7 monsters with different levels on your field, you can destroy all face-up level 7 or lower monsters on your opponent's field

Stone Chariot Gravelriot, lv6 rock/normal 1800/2000
an old tank that moves with great balance. break through one point to disrupt the enemy's balance

Data Eater, lv3 earth machine/effect 800/700
[requirement] reveal 1 earth attribute monster and 1 non-earth attribute monster in your hand
[effect] shuffle 2 cards from your opponent's graveyard into the deck. then, you can make 1 face-up monster on your field gain 500 atk until the end of this turn

well these sure are cards
i think i can safely file these away in my mind and never think about them ever again

[lofty socket]

they aren't getting filed away anywhere in my mind

they are very cards

[uncut badger]

does anyone want to play a match?

[dusk sleet]

Out for now, sorry to say

[uncut badger]

it's fine

[valid cave]

zzzzzz
im awake now, you still around?

[uncut badger]

Sorry, i'm in college rn

Will only be back in like

2 hours

[valid cave]

alr!

[valid cave]

https://twitter.com/YuGiOh_RUSHDUEL/status/1786689726713663742 <@&681691144509194284> new dark matter trap!

Dark Matter Assassinate, trap
[requirement] when your opponent normal or special summons a monster
[effect] 1 face-down card on either player's field is revealed to both players. if the revealed card was a monster with 1300 def, you can destroy 1 face-up level 8 or lower monster or 1 face-down card on your opponent's field

[desert cosmos]

Huh

Multi revel today ?

Cuz it's not :00

[valid cave]

nah, lately theyve been doing a lot of reveals in video form earlier than the normal time

[desert cosmos]

Ah

[valid cave]

weird effect, i think youd hardly ever want to reveal an opponent's thing with this right?

if you totally bricked maybe

[desert cosmos]

It's cool for mirror in that sense

[lusty venture]

you can side it against dark matter

or use it in dark matter

[valid cave]

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Twitter · May 4, 2024, 11:00 PM

Defrostrooper Custom, lv4 fire cyberse/effect 1200/1200
[requirement] during the turn you normal summoned this card
[effect] inflict 200 damage to your opponent. if you have a level 3 fire attribute cyberse type monster or an equip spell card in your graveyard, you can reduce the atk/def of 1 face-up monster on your opponent's field by 600 until the end of this turn

[lusty venture]

cybersepice support

though they dont run equips

[uncut badger]

This will solve yggdrago

🙏

[lusty venture]

yggdrago is light/dark

[uncut badger]

Wait until the fire yggdrago retrain gets announced in 8 hours

[lofty socket]

ngl that would be sick

but this definitely isn't support for that, and thank god it isn't

[uncut badger]

Wait

Wasnt there a gag where the ramen shop was in acordance to neil's providence?

The chance is not zero

[lusty venture]

@dusk sleet up to rush duel?

[dusk sleet]

Oh yeah, sure

I done some revisions, so now's a good time to try em

[lusty venture]

well played

[dusk sleet]

Really tense duel there! Well played!

Getting mighty curious about dark matter stuff now, hmm

Wondering if there's like, any way I can throw Voidvelgr stuff into it

[lusty venture]

eh not much of the voidvelgr stuff has 1300 def

[dusk sleet]

Ahhh, yeah

Maaaan I'm just starved for news concerning Elemental HERO

Really wanting to learn more on em but it's so far off!

Of course until then I might tide myself over with making like, a Talismanic deck

It's a buncha warriors that use fusion summon, so it could be a neat thing to try out

I briefly considered getting Yu-Gi-Oh! RUSH DUEL: Saikyo Battle Royale!! Let's Go! Go Rush!!

(Jeez, that's a seriously long name)

But as it turned out, the game is Japan-Exclusive. Argh.

[uncut badger]

anyone up for a game?

[rare silo]

https://ygorganization.com/hopetheydidntgettheiranglewrong/

[uncut badger]

Blue flames ultima witch

[lusty venture]

Punchy cheerleaders

[dusk sleet]

Punch em!

[valid cave]

<@&681691144509194284> https://twitter.com/YuGiOh_RUSHDUEL/status/1788146831765209147 the final card from kp17 finally revealed!

level 7 light fairy/effect 2300/1700
if you have a monster with 2700 def or a "ship of seven treasures" in your graveyard, you can special summon this card from your hand to your field face-up
[requirement] none
[effect] mill 2. then, you can reduce the atk/def of 1 face-up monster on your opponent's field by 700 until the end of your opponent's next turn

[lusty venture]

oh another seven treasure theme monster

[dusk sleet]

Oooh

That's pretty neat. Not as broadly helpful as Ryozai, but I imagine it's got its uses

Also i love how this is just a Superhero

[lusty venture]

OH they are both fairy as well

interesting

[valid cave]

i do think being an offensively oriented monster is nice
ryozai's effect is more unique but she's also exclusively defensive and it means decks using her might feel durdly and winconless - she does take up some high level spaces so it puts a lot of pressure on the rest of the deck to apply pressure

this one's not as unique and not really something you need on his own, but he can slot easily into a deck on ryozai to actually contest the board and push some damage which is nice!

[valid cave]

@lusty venture, you up fur a duel?

[lusty venture]

sure

db lagging

[valid cave]

ow

[lusty venture]

nice dueling, but yeah that lag was rough

[valid cave]

i like the idea of using the steal trap with garzett

was thinkin there werent many ways to take advantage of the stolen monster but thats one of them!

[lusty venture]

thank you

[tardy mica]

kinda want to try out jointech

[dusk sleet]

https://yu-gi-oh.jp/news_detail.php?page=details&id=1934

Buncha Over Rush showing off

[uncut badger]

is there a database with just rush duel cards and not regular ygo cards mixed in?

[wind harbor]

https://rushcard.io/card-database/?&sort=name

there's also DLM's one, but that's a couple of sets behind rn

[uncut badger]

https://rushcard.io/card/?search=466555

well

dont think it'll work

[wind harbor]

there's the jp Konami one

if you don't need them in English

[uncut badger]

that works

[uncut badger]

Do remind me

Did gold rush had an over rush rare before the duel links print?

[wind harbor]

nope

The orr infomation thingie did mention DL could add original orrs tho

[uncut badger]

that's cool

[lusty venture]

https://ygorganization.com/june-2024-yu-gi-oh-day-sleeves-rush-duel/

[desert cosmos]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1061000675607199854/1240121543401410671/1939_20240509020851_F6eb8DoOl5NM3nV7ARIPnuFkpaHucAgg4A52BjEmdQwW3FT1XZG8HJhxjofAm9eg.png?ex=664568b0&is=66441730&hm=16a00331188a7bbdd88e572f1c4ef1f590b4492d66e0830e07f3a34ceafe8bd6&

<@&681691144509194284>

[uncut badger]

100

[dusk sleet]

Ayyy Copycat

Looks pretty cool, too

[lusty venture]

Copycat time

[uncut badger]

apparently it mills the top card of the deck for its requirement

[dusk sleet]

Oh, that's weird

[uncut badger]

which is weird because the original didnt do that

yea

[dusk sleet]

But it's doable!

[uncut badger]

it also just gains atk/def instead of changing its stats

[dusk sleet]

Ahhh

[lusty venture]

https://ygorganization.com/mirrormirror-2/

it can copy maximums

[dusk sleet]

Ooooh

It's a LIGHT Spellcaster too, so it's a nice choice in decks that use either one of those types or attributes

[valid cave]

ooh, thats a neat one!

[flint rose]

"Executing a join and pairing of the azure skies with courage at ultra-high speeds! Fusion Summon! Time to come on out! Bluetech Burst Rex!!"
https://www.reddit.com/r/yugioh/comments/1css5h1/etymology_burst_rex_of_awakening/

[uncut badger]

Historically, what cards were used to set up loops?

I'm aware of pottery, thunderbold, re:D, and melo:D caused some

But what else?

[valid cave]

actual infinites are hard to come by - there's potter+misc other draw, and bold+melod
otherwise nothing really sustainably goes infinite, at least not that at any level that's advances a gameplan and is practical enough to set up to actually see play, there are probably some combos im unaware of that're youtube type sculpted hand stuff

romanpick+re:d doesnt really do any true infinites, you get basically unlimited tribute fodder but you do still need ways to tribute to keep going romanpick into romanpick into romanpick into romanpick. at some point you run out of things to do, the combo ends at "your field is full of big monsters"

kuribot and sportsdragons do also represent arbitrary tribute fodder if you have tribute monsters that remove themselves from the field after - you can use them to easily wipe the opponent's board of backrow with lurker, or use picotron + necromaid nana repeatedly to draw your deck
parashroom colony has some potential to pull something similar but it's kinda hard to work with because of the activation requirement, i dont think anything ever came of the brewing with it

[uncut badger]

I see

[desert cosmos]

https://yu-gi-oh.jp/news_detail.php?page=details&id=1942

[valid cave]

https://yu-gi-oh.jp/news_detail.php?page=details&id=1942 <@&681691144509194284> our first look at heroes!

[dusk sleet]

👀

They looks so good aaaaaaa~

[uncut badger]

NOOS

[dusk sleet]

And holy shit, they actually just gave us Elemental HERO Clayman as is

[uncut badger]

WAIT WHAT'S THE TEXT ON BUBBLEMAN?

[dusk sleet]

Alright I definitely gotta make a deck around these, stat

NOOS

[uncut badger]

Wait

...how good is this as an gate order deck?

[dusk sleet]

Seems like it's got like, a requirement and effect text

So you don't have to, for instance, Special Summon Elemental HERO Bubbleman

All I can get out of the text is, the effect is drawing 2 cards

[uncut badger]

"Elemental HERO Burst Wingman
Level 6 FIRE Warrior Fusion Effect Monster
ATK 2100
DEF 1200
Materials: "Elemental HERO Avian" + "Elemental HERO Burstinatrix"
This card cannot be Special Summoned, except by Fusion Summon.
[REQUIREMENT Send the top card of your Deck to the GY.
[EFFECT Choose 1 face-up Warrior monster on your field, it gains 1000 ATK until the end of the opponent's next turn, then, you can choose 1 Spell/Trap Card on your opponent's field and destroy it."

[dusk sleet]

Ooooh

Pretty cool!

[valid cave]

Elemental HERO Flame Wingman, lv6 wind warrior/fusion/effect 2100/1600
"avian" + "burstinatrix"
must be fusion summoned
[requirement] none
[continuous effect] when this card destroys a monster by battle and sends it to the graveyard, inflict damage to your opponent equal to that monster's original atk

Elemental HERO Burst Wingman, lv6 fire warrior/fusion/effect 2100/1600
"avian" + "burstinatrix"
must be fusion summoned
[requirement] mill 1
[effect] 1 face-up warrior type monster on your field gains 1000 atk until the end of your opponent's next turn. then, you can destroy 1 spell/trap on your opponent's field

Elemental HERO Bubbleman, lv4 water warrior/effect 800/1200
[requirement] during the turn you normal or special summoned this card, if you have no other cards in your hand or field
[effect] draw 2 cards

Skyscraper, field spell
[requirement] none
[effect] while this card is face-up in the field zone, the turn player's "elemental hero avian", "elemental hero burstinatrix", "elemental hero clayman", "elemental hero sparkman", "elemental hero bubbleman", "elemental hero neos", and level 5-8 warrior type fusion monsters gain 1000 atk

[dusk sleet]

Ah, neat, so Flame Wingman is unchanged

[valid cave]

(and then 5 the vanillas)

[dusk sleet]

...Also, Skyscraper is most certainly not future-proofed lol

[uncut badger]

Skyscraper doesnt boost bladedge

[dusk sleet]

But it also gives a benefit to like, I guess Talismanic monsters too

[uncut badger]

Sad

[dusk sleet]

Since they're Warrior Fusion monsters

[uncut badger]

Also wait, it doesnt have the "only if its attacking a monster with higher attack"

[dusk sleet]

On the bright side, this ATK bonus is always on

So that's just cracked

[uncut badger]

Yea

[valid cave]

yeah none of that, it's just +1000!

[uncut badger]

Sparkment casually beating any nonfusion / maximum by battle

Kinda crazy

[dusk sleet]

And I thought the most ATK you'd ever get on a field spell was Dark Battle Grounds!

[valid cave]

which is important because, yknow, your big fusion boss monster is 2100 atk

[dusk sleet]

Neos has like 3500 ATK, even!

[valid cave]

well, the retrain does become 3100 by its own effect, so that's something

[dusk sleet]

Here's hoping we also get the silly stuff like uh

[uncut badger]

Secret gate target neos boutta go crazy

[dusk sleet]

[Wrath of Neos]

[tender oriole]

Wrath of Neos

Effect

Target 1 "Elemental HERO Neos" in your Monster Zone; shuffle that "Elemental HERO Neos" into the Deck, and if you do, destroy all cards on the field.

F/L Status: Unlimited (TCG/OCG/MD)

[uncut badger]

[Hero signal]

[tender oriole]

Hero Signal

Effect

When a monster you control is destroyed by battle and sent to the GY: Special Summon 1 Level 4 or lower "Elemental HERO" monster from your hand or Deck.

F/L Status: Unlimited (TCG/OCG/MD)

[dusk sleet]

Which would be psycho if it even became a thing

[valid cave]

time for this deck to get totally swept by aquila!

[dusk sleet]

Unfortunately Hero Signal would be a no-go, given it specifies a kind of monster

[uncut badger]

It could just name all of them

[valid cave]

there isnt really any advantage to playing this as gate order, dedicated
literally the only thing that cares about neos is the field spell rn

[uncut badger]

Given that skyscraper did just that

[valid cave]

and even more importantly, it summons from deck

[uncut badger]

Hey, so did egotist

[valid cave]

change to graveyard and you have something... that works in rush but would suck and never be played

[dusk sleet]

Some of the HERO Flash!! stuff could work

But it would be weird since you'd use the letters that would fit

[uncut badger]

I wonder if we'll get destiny heroes eventually

[dusk sleet]

And the rest like E- Emergency Call would be omitted

[valid cave]

definitely this deck needs more support though

[uncut badger]

This isnt everything in the sd, is it?

[valid cave]

to start, how are you even making flame wingman? are we whipping out the ole star restart again?

[dusk sleet]

It looks very promising though, and super cool

[valid cave]

no, this should be only a first look

[dusk sleet]

I don't even care if nobody plays it, this is just super rad

[uncut badger]

Parallel birth game pog

[valid cave]

notably the structure contains 43 cards, which implies an additional fusion monster

[dusk sleet]

Skyscraper specifies the ones featured

[uncut badger]

Kinda weird how the rush exclusive fusion is also avian + burstrinatrix

Thought that they were gonna do something new

[dusk sleet]

Which would imply that unless we get something like some rush original-takes on monsters like Wroughtweiler or something

There may be more!

[uncut badger]

Yea, but we already got 2 out of 3 of the fusions

[dusk sleet]

So, maybe look forward to some additional warrior support, rush-exclusive takes on old classics, and possibly, some actual support for Polymerization

[uncut badger]

Ooh poly support would be nice

[dusk sleet]

Would be super cool for this to be one of the few decks that would use Polymerization very well

[uncut badger]

Card needs some love

[dusk sleet]

Only card that supports it so far is p[Fusionic Revivern]

[tender oriole]

Fusionic Revivern

Level: 1
[ Dragon / Effect ]

ATK 0 / DEF 0

Effect

Draw 1 card. Then, you can Special Summon 1 High Dragon Type Fusion Monster from your Graveyard face-up to your field. If you Special Summoned a monster by this effect, you can also add 1 "Fusion" or 1 "Polymerization" from your Graveyard to your hand.

F/L Status: Unreleased (TCG/OCG), Unlimited (MD)

[uncut badger]

Oh yea

Is neos' text the same?

Since, yknow

[Elemental hero neos]

[tender oriole]

Elemental HERO Neos

Level: 7
[ Warrior / Normal ]

ATK 2500 / DEF 2000

Effect

A new Elemental HERO has arrived from Neo-Space! When he initiates a Contact Fusion with a Neo-Spacian his unknown powers are unleashed.

F/L Status: Unlimited (TCG/OCG/MD)

[valid cave]

oh yeah, also note the bonus cards
there's 14 bonus cards, 9 cards currently known
in the blue-eyes deck the bonus cards were all new (+ there were 4 more new cards not in the bonus cards), if it's the same this time then that implies at least 5 new cards still unknown, possibly more

[uncut badger]

Interesting

[valid cave]

also yeah it is

still mentions contact fusion with neo-spacians

[uncut badger]

Huh

Interesting

[tardy mica]

Skyscraper is hilarious

[uncut badger]

Wonder if we'll get at least one neo spacian

Aqua dolphin has special treatment

I could see it being that

Altho the neos fusions would probably still have their drawback

[winter ridge]

As a slight correction, Skyscraper's effect applies to the turn player.
So, during your opponent's turn, they can benefit from the Skyscraper effect

[uncut badger]

L m a o

[valid cave]

oh

i see, ty

[uncut badger]

I do wonder how is bubbleman ever resolving

[valid cave]

he isn't!

[tardy mica]

He literally just exists as fusion fodder

[valid cave]

for a fusion that doesn't exist yet!

[uncut badger]

for what fusion

[winter ridge]

Sunriser

[uncut badger]

Real

Yo abzero

[winter ridge]

I like Burst Wingman, and the buff to Flame Wingman

[uncut badger]

I wonder what are the odds we dont get miracle fusion

Deck's like night and day depending on if we get it or not

[tardy mica]

We’ll get legally distinct miracle fusion

That’s just sevens wonder fusion

[uncut badger]

Yea i imagine that's what it'll be

[winter ridge]

Imagine if we get Parallel World Fusion with a buff

[uncut badger]

Isnt parallel banishment only?

The "zone" that doesnt exist in rush?

[winter ridge]

It can get buffed to be GY

[uncut badger]

But then it's just miracle

[tardy mica]

No then it’s sevens wonder fusion

[uncut badger]

Oh yea important note

They gave abs to neos

[winter ridge]

Am I crazy, or shouldn't Skyscraper's effect be a Continuous Effect?

[desert cosmos]

Only if you somehow use spells that send monsters from hand or field

[uncut badger]

The most likely situation i could come up with is like

Fusion summon, get compulse'd

Spend the last card in your hand somehow

[rare silo]

IIRC Rush never says "Continous Effect" on field spells? I think Rush had field spells before it had any card that said "Continuous Effect".

[valid cave]

yeah, all field spells are just written as "effect"

imo they should say "continuous effect", but they dont

[dusk sleet]

It's really cause, I think some field spells have requirements to activating it

[uncut badger]

Do we have any field spells with non-passive effects?

[dusk sleet]

A few of them do, anyways

[valid cave]

nope

[dusk sleet]

Yea nope

None yet

[desert cosmos]

Yeh continuous effect don't have requirements but some Fields spells do

[valid cave]

some of them have activation requirements, but i dont think that really matters for how the effect is labeled

[dusk sleet]

About the only ones that do have a passive requirement in Maximum Monsters

[valid cave]

(which is itself on my wishlist of formatting changes; no reason that e.g. dark sword magician should be "requirement: none, continuous effect: if you have 6 or more spells in graveyard, this card can't be destroyed by card effects" instead of "requirement: you have 6 or more spells in graveyard, continuous effect: this card can't be destroyed by card effects")

[dusk sleet]

Maybe a PSCT thing in which, instead of a "Requirement", it is printed as a "Condition"?

Instead of doing something, it's just a check to see if the continuous effect is active

There actually is a very good few monsters that can benefit from Skyscraper I noticed

Talismanic fusion monsters, Music Princess stuff, you can even use some silly stuff using Hero of the Yeast and Masaki the Legendary Samurai

...And Flame Swordsman

Man, Flame Swordsman just gets left out a lot.

[stuck summit]

is flame wingman the first monster in rush with a triggered effect?

[dusk sleet]

I think Power Bond also exists

I don't know if that counts, exactly though, since you activate it, and the resultant fusion ends up with twice its usual ATK

But then you take effect damage during the end phase

And if you wanna get technical, Multistrike Dragon Dragias' effect could be one

Since you gotta attack something, and destroy it first to get a second attack with it

[lone junco]

Testing testing 1 2

Hey it worked hey guys

[lusty venture]

I was at locals, I see we got heroes now

[lone junco]

If you guys could add any parody archetype to Rush duels what would it be?

[lusty venture]

Sand Stone but zombie "Sand Bone"

[dusk sleet]

Eh, before I was like "Elemental HERO's but they're now olympian athletes"

"And Neos is the big monster of the series, doing curling"

But now that we got proper HERO stuff, I'm not sure now

[lone junco]

I was more thinking of a popular archetype made into a meme like the zexal baseball of black luster jersey

[lusty venture]

oh right you said archetype

[uncut badger]

inzektors as deliveryman

[lusty venture]

well the jersey arent really an archetype, like cannon soldier, penguin soldier, and black luster soldier arent part of a "soldier archetype".

[dusk sleet]

It's really just 500 DEF

[lone junco]

HUH!?!?

[lusty venture]

but were made a theme in rush cuz soldier

[dusk sleet]

So anything with that DEF is part of the series

[uncut badger]

hornet sends out mail, ladybug is an uber eats employee

[lusty venture]

yup exactly symph

[dusk sleet]

This, but stuff Yusei used in 5D's

[lone junco]

Why did you think of that???

[uncut badger]

https://twitter.com/MUNDANE_TOKU

MUNDANE TOKUSATSU (@MUNDANE_TOKU) on X

I don't own anything on this account, just dm me and I will post the credits, mostly of the time I can't find the source. Suggestions are welcome.

Twitter

[dusk sleet]

Junk Warrior is just an guy working for the package delivery service

[uncut badger]

because of this

[lusty venture]

I still need to read the new e-hero stuff, very curious how bubbleman's effect was changed

[dusk sleet]

Not much

Just that you don't gotta Special Summon it

[lone junco]

Maybe it’s the anime effect

[lusty venture]

https://ygorganization.com/skyscraperthekensamafieldspell/

[dusk sleet]

You still need to control absolutely nothing to use the effect though

[lone junco]

Breh

[lusty venture]

ITS EXACT?!

[uncut badger]

neos with effect borders

[lusty venture]

just bad screenshot, coloration is very much vanilla

[dusk sleet]

Obviously those two cards are going to be exactly what you need to win the duel.

[uncut badger]

star restart and avian

[dusk sleet]

Actually

Uh

Parallel Birth gate and Polymerization!

[lusty venture]

Like the only way I can see that going off is if you have things you can easily throw away

[uncut badger]

that works too

oh yea good luck resolving bubbleman with skyscraper on the field

[dusk sleet]

Does make me think that the last fusion that has not been revealed is in fact, something that uses Bubbleman as Fusion Material

[lusty venture]

if it doesnt draw, bubbleman could maybe

[dusk sleet]

It probably may just be Mudballman, though

[Elemental HERO Mudballman]

[tender oriole]

Elemental HERO Mudballman

Level: 6
[ Warrior / Fusion / Effect ]

ATK 1900 / DEF 3000

Effect

"Elemental HERO Bubbleman" + "Elemental HERO Clayman"
Must be Fusion Summoned and cannot be Special Summoned by other ways.

F/L Status: Unlimited (TCG/OCG/MD)

[desert cosmos]

[Elemental Hero Mariner]

[tender oriole]

Elemental HERO Mariner

Level: 5
[ Warrior / Fusion / Effect ]

ATK 1400 / DEF 1000

Effect

"Elemental HERO Bubbleman" + "Elemental HERO Avian"
Must be Fusion Summoned and cannot be Special Summoned by other ways. While you have any face-down card(s) in your Spell & Trap Card Zones, this card can attack your opponent directly.

F/L Status: Unlimited (TCG/OCG/MD)

[dusk sleet]

Mariner would be fine too

[lone junco]

[Elemental Hero Phoenix Enforcer]

[tender oriole]

Elemental HERO Phoenix Enforcer

Level: 6
[ Warrior / Fusion / Effect ]

ATK 2100 / DEF 1200

Effect

"Elemental HERO Avian" + "Elemental HERO Burstinatrix"
Must be Fusion Summoned and cannot be Special Summoned by other ways. This card cannot be destroyed by battle.

F/L Status: Unlimited (TCG/OCG/MD)

[soft nexus]

Skyscraper was changed

[lone junco]

My suggestion

[dusk sleet]

And in fact would be cracked given what Skyscraper does

[uncut badger]

i love mariner

[lusty venture]

new wingman is interesting

[uncut badger]

dude was my favorite instant fusion target

[lusty venture]

same mats even

[dusk sleet]

And Judai still doesn't know that you can choose to fusion summon this one instead of Flame Wingman, most likely

[lusty venture]

the rushification of the art looks so good on burst

[lone junco]

My suggestion for an elemental hero

elemental hero GUN

[desert cosmos]

Weirdly she got her pre-errara flavor text...

"The only woman elemental hero thing"

[dusk sleet]

Once again, Rush Duel art is the best

Aw jeez, really?

[lusty venture]

scyscraper rush edit is cool

[dusk sleet]

We gonna have another Lady Heat situation?

[lone junco]

Ok here’s an idea that’s been bouncing around my head lately

[soft nexus]

There's 9 targets for Skyscraper other them the fusions

[desert cosmos]

Look at jinzo and say that.

[lone junco]

What if maximum cards were in master rule dueling?

[desert cosmos]

Ye.

No other female heros I guess...

Not even Fusions

[lusty venture]

ygorg has it translated as first

[desert cosmos]

RD/SD0B-JP007 Ｅ・ＨＥＲＯ バーストレディ Elemental HERO Burst Lady (Elemental HERO Burstinatrix)
Level 3 FIRE Warrior Normal Monster
ATK 1200
DEF 800
炎を操るＥ・ＨＥＲＯの紅一点。紅蓮の炎、バーストファイヤーが悪を焼き尽くす。
(The only woman of the Elemental HEROes, who manipulates flames. Her crimson flame Burstfire burns away villainy.)
(TCG: A flame manipulator who was the first Elemental HERO woman. Her Burstfire burns away villainy.)

[lusty venture]

but also the other, so idk which

[desert cosmos]

Nope they have em both

Look again

[valid cave]

that's because there was no japanese errata

[lusty venture]

as I said, " but also the other"

[dusk sleet]

Well, it does mention that she is the only one who manipulates flames

[valid cave]

it was a tcg-only thing

[dusk sleet]

So who knows, maybe there's more on the way

[desert cosmos]

Weird

[lusty venture]

a[lady heat]

[tender oriole]

Elemental HERO Lady Heat

[dusk sleet]

Honestly, even with Skyscraper's weird restriction, having more HERO stuff added would be fine

If they're justified in not benefiting from Skyscraper

[Elemental HERO Lady Heat]

[desert cosmos]

I mean we saw it with harpie

[tender oriole]

Elemental HERO Lady Heat

Level: 4
[ Pyro / Effect ]

ATK 1300 / DEF 1000

Effect

During each of your End Phases: Inflict 200 damage to your opponent for each face-up "Elemental HERO" monster you control.

F/L Status: Unlimited (TCG/OCG/MD)

[dusk sleet]

...Y'know, this effect could work in the context of Rush Duel

Save for it probably needing to go off during the main phase, but it could work

[lone junco]

WAIT IDEA

[wake up your elemental hero’s]

[tender oriole]

Wake Up Your Elemental HERO

Level: 10
[ Warrior / Fusion / Effect ]

ATK 2500 / DEF 2100

Effect

1 "Elemental HERO" Fusion Monster + 1+ Warrior monsters
Must be Fusion Summoned. Gains 300 ATK for each material used for its Summon. This card can make a number of attacks on monsters each Battle Phase, up to the number of Fusion Monsters used as material for its Summon. After damage calculation, if this card battled a monster: Destroy that monster, and if you do, inflict damage to your opponent equal to its original ATK. If this Fusion Summoned card is destroyed: Special Summon 1 Warrior monster from your hand or Deck.

F/L Status: Unlimited (TCG/OCG/MD)

[lone junco]

Maximum?

[desert cosmos]

They don't want the "support" monsters to be supported I guess
Since the 3 game og harpies are not treated as harpie lady anyway

[dusk sleet]

Ehhhhh, not likely

[tawny dagger]

Poor Necroshade still isn’t part of the core group

[lone junco]

Nobody reacted to my idea of “Wake up your elemental HERO” being a maximum monster

[lusty venture]

@dusk sleet I wanna fight you with a quick hero build, if someone hasnt uploaded them I should be able to because its a rather light upload

[dusk sleet]

Well, I was gonna do one of my own, but I'll probably try it myself later, so I'm game

[lusty venture]

sweet, gimme a bit. Gotta upload the stuff

[lone junco]

Why is nobody reacting to my idea 😦

Why do emoticons auto correct to emojis

😦

:0

[valid cave]

thats a setting you can change in discord!

[lone junco]

How

[valid cave]

stretched across 3 cards the reference would be kinda weak i think

[valid cave]

settings > chat (app settings category) > automatically convert emoticons to emoji (emoji category)

[lone junco]

Doesn’t have to be exact but I think it could work even if you just swap out the cards in the image

[lusty venture]

ok current progress, got all vanillas done

so 4 cards remain

scary image

ok moving onto fusions now

[dusk sleet]

spooky

[lusty venture]

ok all cards added, now to build a quick decklist

@dusk sleet ready

[dusk sleet]

I got myself a room!

[lusty venture]

very nice duel

[dusk sleet]

Oh jeez I'm so sorry for that ending argh

Aaaaa

It was nice dueling though!

I feel so awful when I activate something like that, argh

But, the Elemental HERO cards are super cool!

[lusty venture]

I just realized I accidentally made neos level 4, but yeah making adjustments and fixing the errors

[dusk sleet]

I may try a similar deck, but use Talismanic monsters instead of Bread Knife swingin' samurai

[lusty venture]

Neos is level 7, the earth talismanic cant add it

[dusk sleet]

Ahhh

I was gonna mention the other normal monsters, but that would just mean Clayman and Sparkman

Ehh, probably not a good idea after all.

[lusty venture]

also some of the customs I put up were set to me only, have to go through and edit them for public later

[dusk sleet]

Ether Striker would be an idea

Or Music Princess

Elemental HERO Flame Wingman is a WIND attribute Warrior!

[lusty venture]

the talismanic could work though, just no add back neos synergy

[dusk sleet]

Ahh

https://yugipedia.com/wiki/Music_Princess's_Dance

Apparently, this can fusion summon Flame Wingman pretty easily

Only Burstinatrix has to be the odd one out: You can use other Avian, or some other WIND Warrior monsters for this requirement

[lusty venture]

wanna go for another match?

[dusk sleet]

Oh, sure

[dusk sleet]

And as it turns out, DB picked a wonderful time to quit on me

[valid cave]

mm
but you can't make the retrain, which is much better

[lusty venture]

oof

[valid cave]

original flame wingman would only really be worth it occasionally if you have skyscraper out

[dusk sleet]

Aaaallright I am back

[valid cave]

and if you're playing wind warrior focus, you're not playing skyscraper

[dusk sleet]

Jeez, I don't think you ever been this negative about any new cards

[valid cave]

i dont think that's really a negative statement about the cards, just that that particular combination isn't very useful

running dance with e hero stuff isn't playing to the strengths of either deck

[dusk sleet]

Ahh

[lusty venture]

nice dueling

[dusk sleet]

Thanks~

Pretty cool cards and combinations!

[lusty venture]

deck is definitely a start, but we need to see rest of the support

[dusk sleet]

I really wish Duelingbook would stop panicking on me

Yeah, for sure!

It's very playable with what we know so far, but there's always more ahead

Also, cause Wilhel continues to be the lamest of Monarchs:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r6JK-gRELI0

I definitely need to start making my own HERO deck soon

I've been waiting so long for it!

[dusk sleet]

https://ygorganization.com/reprints-for-birth-of-hero-rd-sd0b/

[dusk sleet]

Oh hey, Shitotsu the Talismanic Warrior can Special Summon Elemental HERO Avian to the field from the Graveyard

Glad I found that out

[lusty venture]

@dusk sleet down to rush duel?

[dusk sleet]

Can’t go for it right now, got stuff goin’ on. Maybe a good bit later I may have time

[lusty venture]

ah ok

[worn edge]

WE GOT CONTACT FUSION!

[uncut badger]

Tecnically we had it since the gaia stuff came out

[worn edge]

This was the anime debut

[lusty venture]

wait for real?

Anime COTD later ?!

[worn edge]

Yep https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yz6XSYc5GE4

[lusty venture]

nice

its even called contact dark matter (one of the material)

[rare silo]

https://ygorganization.com/sevens-fear-magician-alternate-artwork-rush-duel/

[valid cave]

https://yu-gi-oh.jp/news_detail.php?page=details&id=1943

no card text yet, but we got the cover art of kp18 - dark matter of phantoms, featuring the new contact fusion boss from the anime!

(this set is definitely gonna contain a decently sized wave of hero support isnt it)

(worth mentioning, based on the anime text, apparently unlike the tcg a summon by contact fusion is considered to be an actual fusion summon)

[valid cave]

anime card text fur reference

"Dark Matter Dragon" + "Contact Dark Matter Wyvern"
You can Summon this card by Contact Fusion (Fusion Summon it by shuffling the above face-up monsters from your field into the owner's Deck as material).
[REQUIREMENT] You have a face-down monster on your field.
[EFFECT] Destroy 2 face-down cards on the field. This card gains 2000 ATK this turn.

[dusk sleet]

I can smell the Neos support

But knowing Neos, it's gonna get saddled with the downsides it usually has in the OCG too. Sigh.

[uncut badger]

OH SHIT

THIS IS THE FIRST TIME CONTACT FUSION GOT REFERED TO AS AN OFFICIAL GAME MECHANIC

[desert cosmos]

Makes me wonder why they just didn't do the Gaia thing.
Wyvern is already a curse of Dragon type thing, since all it does is revive Dragon.

But man I really hope they don't give a contact Fusion to every theme

That's gonna be lame

[lusty venture]

there's the contact fusion

HOLD UP CONTACT FUSION ACTUALLY REFERENCED AS A GAME MECHANIC

[tardy mica]

incredible

[valid cave]

contact fusion seems to be in something of an odd place when put into an existing theme
cause you still need a fusion spell to summon most fusions, so youll still run one unless the deck is all contact fusion (or the non-contact fusion bosses are bad)

and dark matter is an existing theme, it already has fusion bosses that can't be contact fused...

[desert cosmos]

Tbf Meister does not play any of the Dark mist stuff it seems

Then again... Emperor dragon can be Fusion summoned it seems to

So I'm kinda lost to way not these are not like the gaia/curse of Dragon retrain

[valid cave]

well
it is like it, yeah
just lets them save on card text, or do contact fusions between vanillas, or do generic contact fusions synchro summons at some point

[lusty venture]

Im so excited for contact fusion being possible for Neos

Maybe Rush exclusive neo spacians?

[desert cosmos]

Inb4 they make em galaxy type

[rare silo]

https://ygorganization.com/contactfusion/

[lusty venture]

@dusk sleet you up for a rush duel?

[dusk sleet]

Oh, yeah, sure!

[lusty venture]

alright hosting

[lusty venture]

very nice duel

[dusk sleet]

Good duel, Summer!

Youch, that was quite a brick

[lusty venture]

u2

[dusk sleet]

Yaaa

Have a deck recipe!

[lusty venture]

I feel like Neos is getting a fusion, the timing of the structure with the new set is too close to be a coincidence

[dusk sleet]

Yeah, here's hoping it does

Would love stuff for it, even if it did have that oh-so charming downside it usually has in the OCG

[lusty venture]

my idea, maybe a fusion with the OG eheroes

[dusk sleet]

Oooh

[lusty venture]

Like E-Hero Bubble Neos

[dusk sleet]

Or possibly some newcomers to Rush Duel for Neo-Spacians

[lusty venture]

or E-Hero Spark neos?

[dusk sleet]

That'd be super cool

Here's hoping!

[lusty venture]

same

[dusk sleet]

I may have to draft up my own Elemental HERO deck soon enough, but I'm unsure what direction I could go with it

I might try out stuff involving Parallel Birth Gate, and do a bunch of stuff with Flame Wingman

...I was gonna put Monster Reborn in there, but it just so happens that the fusions all retain that downside of being unable to be special summoned from the Graveyard

So there goes that little idea

[tardy mica]

catching up on go rush and i didn't expect the antagonists to be trying to establish an earthling ethnostate out of Earth

[uncut badger]

How relevant are/were equip spells? Both currently and historically

[valid cave]

not very. there's some fun ones for casual but most of them were only that
the good ones are:

• grace spear has seen quite a bit of play between wonder fusion, gaia, and dark magician - in the former 2 cases because it gives a ridiculous amount of atk, in the latter case because the deck already has a ridiculous amount of atk and wanted to convert it into a reliable kill and grace spear is the best of the piercing-giving effects the deck could play
• celeb rose is a good deck and cares about equip spells (death wand)
• thunderbird sees occasional play in reptile
• magnet twin saber sees occasional play in magnet warrior

i tried playing arthenee in tournaments around its release, but it didn't really catch on and i phased it out eventually

[dusk sleet]

Yeah, Grace Spear is semi-limited cause of how ridiculous the ATK bonus can get if equipped to a Magical Knight monster.

Everything else is a case-by-case basis

You of course want a bunch with Celeb Rose, or Gilford, but everything else, maybe not

[uncut badger]

How often did people went/go for deckout as a wincon?

[valid cave]

as a dedicated strategy, it's never been competitive. there's a funny mill deck using santa cloth, card dev and such but its always been a meme

but the draw-to-5 rule means it incidentally comes up pretty often

especially in early rush when there wasnt as much monster shuffling - after torero came out most decks were equipped to pad their decks and deck out became much less common, but it can still come up even now if a deck doesnt have much shuffle power

including a shuffler to have a better grind game is a good consideration when deckbuilding

[dusk sleet]

Decking out is a bigger risk, but so far there's not a whole too terribly lot of decks that focus on it

Shaman Bandit can, since a lot of their cards are geared towards making your opponent draw cards, and then throwing them out, but they have more of a focus on equip spells, so that usually ends up as a "plan B", if memory serves

I could be wrong

Still, if there's a lot of back and forth, and both people dueling aren't giving an inch, it can come up

[valid cave]

the draw stuff is funny! but not very good, youre more likely to play it in an entirely separate build, it doesnt contribute much to a regular shaman bandit deck

besides prophecy phrase, that one's good enough fur the regular build sometimes

[uncut badger]

Speaking of

I've decided to just errata every card that gets rid of cards from the opponent's hand to automatically allow them to draw up to 5 in their next turn

Including non rush cards, trishula be damned

[lusty venture]

@dusk sleet down to rush?

[dusk sleet]

Yeah, I can do some rush dueling!

[lusty venture]

very good dueling

[dusk sleet]

I did I don't know how much drawing and you just topdecked like 2 of Simoone of the genie

My luck, in action

Good dueling!

[lusty venture]

Out of curiosity, what were the facedowns?

[dusk sleet]

Excutie Riding, and Magic Cylinder

Yeah that was very fortunate

[lusty venture]

yeah had a strong feeling they had to be at least 1 legend trap

[dusk sleet]

I'm starting to think I probably need to use Torrential Tribute more often

Magic Cylinder, I just have the worst luck with

Evidently some madmen over at the DDM team, or maybe some fans are considering some Rush Duel campaigns for DDM

Here's hoping, cause a roguelike game featuring some Rush Duel cards would be very neat

[tardy mica]

it'd probably honestly be better for a rougelike than master format

[uncut badger]

Question

Can warrior.dek function without their flood mons?

Dont really want to give players access to those in particular but the aesthetic of the deck is very cool

[valid cave]

thats... not entirely straightforward to answer?

[dusk sleet]

There's plenty of good Warrior Monsters that don't need Yamiruler

Or, decks in any case

[valid cave]

when you say "warrior.dek" you mean specifically gavin, right, because there are multiple other warrior themes

even though he's not even mono-warrior

[dusk sleet]

Glacies the Snowmeister of Sacred Splendor, Gilford the Rising, etc.

Gilford's probably the way to go if you want generic warrior stuff that's very heavy on the offense

[uncut badger]

Gavin.dek, yea

[dusk sleet]

Ahhh

[uncut badger]

I'm old , types used to have only 1 theme

ignore that wind warriors also existed

[valid cave]

post-fusion, gavin's deck can work, yeah
though yamiruler is the best monster on its own, and you'd prefer not to fuse with exclusively kimeluna
the deck could probably replace yami with one of the worse fusion options, semeruler or (if you go that recent in the cardpool) kimeruler
you're not very happy about it, and you mostly lose access to ruler slash, one of the deck's better tools, but it should still function

[dusk sleet]

I feel so off using Trade-In with these

[valid cave]

pre-fusion, no, semeruler into kimeluna is a really bad payoff and there's not much else to do

[dusk sleet]

They're level 8, so Trade-In does work, but you have to throw out a level 8 monster with Trade-In

Whereas with Ship of Seven Treasures, you can choose to throw out something that isn't a level 7 monster

[valid cave]

they have an upgraded in-theme trade-in remember!

unless youre also running some generic bosses like glacies

[dusk sleet]

Ooh

Yeah, I'm more talking on Gilford

[uncut badger]

btw

how many maximums with different names do magnum overlord decks tend to run? (if those even exist)

[valid cave]

mm
not sure, i haven't seen any that were built after the latest support came out

i think it's usually 2 though

maybe you could commit a little harder to it to consisntely set up burning overlord, potentially? but that'd also cut into staple space

[uncut badger]

I see

Speaking of that

What is the "ideal" engine to non engine ratio in rush?

[valid cave]

...no such thing? its completely dependent on what deck you're playing and what you consider to be "engine"

being able to fit more is a good thing of course, wonder fusion was a great deck because the actual engine part of it was extremely compact and the deck consisted almost entirely of staples, just with the occasional nuclear bomb

[uncut badger]

I see

[uncut badger]

New text!

[REQUIREMENT]: Send 2 cards from your hand to the GY.

[Effect]: Add 1 Spell Card from your GY to your hand.

 New
[REQUIREMENT]: **If you have a Spell Card in your GY**, you can send 2 cards from your hand to the GY.

[Effect]: Add 1 Spell Card from your GY to your hand.```

[valid cave]

yeah they do these kinds of clarifying erratas pretty often

already worked that way!

just more clear now

[dusk sleet]

Eh, well that's an alright errata

Just clarifying that you need a spell in the GY in the first place

[valid cave]

im kinda surprised sevens road magician hasnt had an errata to "if you have a monster in your graveyard, send the top card of your deck to the graveyard" yet

even though theyve reprinted it many times now

they probably want to keep the text simple on the protag ace, even though it is a functionally relevant source of confusion

[dusk sleet]

Oh yeah, can we Pin this?

Feels like the last forbidden/limited list was out of date

https://ygorganization.com/april-1st-2024-limit-regulation-rush-duel/

[lusty venture]

yeah lets pin this

[uncut badger]

@stable garden do you mind pinning the banlist?

[valid cave]

(and unpinning the old one)

[stable garden]

Is this the yearly banlist

[valid cave]

it's every 3 months actually, pins are old

[uncut badger]

Level 3 EARTH Warrior Effect Monster
ATK 300
DEF 600
[REQUIREMENT] If "Fusion" or "Skyscraper" is in your GY.
[EFFECT] Choose a total of up to 2 Warrior Normal Monsters and/or "Fusion" in your GY and add them to the hand, then, you can choose 1 monster on your field and send it to the GY.```

[valid cave]

oh!
what a weird reveal timing

oh so sending to graveyard isnt even mandatory huh? he literally just says go ahead, go +2 fur free, no restrictions anywhere here

and suddenly god oblivion elemental hero just became viable

[dusk sleet]

Ayyyy Hero Boy

That's a pretty neat call-back to Hero Kid

[uncut badger]

i'm trying to figure out what the self send is for, not leaving yourself exposed for next turn?

[valid cave]

for making room to fusion summon

[dusk sleet]

Most likely

Or that

Honestly, though, this seemed more in-line for Polymerization, since you can fusion summon with materials in the hand, so sending something to the Gy would make sense

[valid cave]

if you control anything else (and dont have a tribute summon in hand), you won't be able to normal summon the fusion mats you added back to fusion summon

[dusk sleet]

Surprising how there's not any sort of need for Polymerization.

[uncut badger]

i guess so

[dusk sleet]

Ahhh

All we need now is to reimagine Wroughtweiler and we'll be set~

[valid cave]

anyway this card becomes completely broken if we get a good fusion that can use it as material

[uncut badger]

gate order intensifies

[dusk sleet]

Actually would be sick

Even without a fusion this is pretty great support

I'm definitely considering using this in maybe some Gaia build, with Fusion, just to see how it'll go

It will not go well

[lusty venture]

Ooh new hero card alert

[lusty venture]

@dusk sleet you still awake and up to rush?

[dusk sleet]

Sure, I can put in a duel

[lusty venture]

k

nice dueling

[dusk sleet]

Thanks for the duel!

...Admittedly I feel like I made my Magnet Warrior deck too hardcore, sorry

Hero Boy's pretty cool though

He actually looks a lot like Yudias, come to think of it

Speaking of Heroics, I definitely need to start making my own HERO deck

Been procrastination on that for much too long

[dusk sleet]

I might see if I can get the HERO sample done, and possibly challenge Spirare with it

But I gotta figure it out first!

[lusty venture]

its ok

[rare silo]

https://ygorganization.com/oneforall/

They say that sending the monster from your field to the GY is mandatory.

[dusk sleet]

Ahh

Yeah, that’s still reasonable

[stable garden]

@uncut badger you are now the lord of duel links and rush duel

Can you try pinning something?

[dusk sleet]

Oooh

[uncut badger]

UNLIMITED POWER

Let's see

[uncut badger]

nope, cant pin anything

but it seems like i can post stuff in #product_news

[stable garden]

Well someone told me if it was tied to manage messages permission

Try it now?

[uncut badger]

still cant

[stable garden]

Now?

[uncut badger]

Working

[stable garden]

Forum posts are weird

[uncut badger]

funny how the judge color overrides the special role color

[valid cave]

https://www.konami.com/yugioh/jumpvictorycarnival/ <@&681691144509194284> wow this sure is gonna be a really useful legend, right? :3

[dusk sleet]

It's nice to look at, that's for sure.

Very nice artwork

Could be some fringe cases for Dragon decks needing a High ATK dragon monster that isn't Blue-Eyes White Dragon

[stuck summit]

idk i can't imagine a dragon deck cutting mirage dragon for this

[lone junco]

Why are we hype for this? It’s just a 1 tribute 2400 beat stick

[valid cave]

because

• its funny

[lusty venture]

Maybe they could make it better with a cool fusion

[dusk sleet]

It looks nice

More of a collection piece than anything else

[valid cave]

https://yu-gi-oh.jp/news_detail.php?page=details&id=1944 https://yu-gi-oh.jp/news_detail.php?page=details&id=1945 btw, these were posted a couple days ago, but here are some topping decklists from the galaxy cup (best-of-3 events) post-kp17

the highlighted decks are:

• 5 reptile
• 1 magnet warrior
• 1 seven treasures goodstuff
• 1 wonder fusion

the magnet warrior decklist is... really weird

[uncut badger]

A lot of praime dwarfs

Interesting

[dusk sleet]

Alright, gonna need some insight on what to put in an Elemental HERO deck

I imagine the usual way to go about it is trying out a lot of normal monster support, as well as stuff that can facilitate fusion summons (Star Restart, Mist Assassin, etc.)

[desert cosmos]

I would wait for the last 4 cards tbh

[dusk sleet]

Ahh, alright

[desert cosmos]

I mean the HERO boy already changed a lot

So who knows wtf 4 more would do.

Also we likely get to see a Neos Fusion next month

Since it would be the debut of the core booster

[valid cave]

https://yu-gi-oh.jp/news_detail.php?page=details&id=1963

no effects yet, but many artworks of cards in kp17!

confirmed:
heroes

• elemental hero shining flare wingman
• neo spacian aqua dolphin
• neo spacian flare scarab
• elemental hero pulse neos (unknown, assumption: neos + dolphin contact fusion)
• elemental hero heat neos (unknown, assumption: neos + scarab contact fusion)

berry fresh, new theme based on an old generic 1-off

• berry fresh happiness harvest
• berry fresh pleasure
• berry fresh rich
• berry fresh shy
• strawberry encounter

other contact fusions

• excutie lumiere frontier (lumiere + lilius contact fusion)
• the ever-present princess of heaven (specter of heaven's end + specter of heaven's beginning contact fusion)

CUTIE CUTIE CUTIE CUTIE CUTIE

LUMILILIY//<,,,

AWAUIWHEKWUIKAWHKKH

i guess some of these sort of have their effects known since theyre imports, so

https://yu-gi-oh.jp/news_detail.php?page=details&id=1963 <@&681691144509194284> artworks and names (and some fusion materials) of many cards from kp17! no effects yet, but some are imports so you can take some guesses!

[dusk sleet]

Ayyyyy Shining Flare Wingman

[valid cave]

heroes

[uncut badger]

NOOS

[dusk sleet]

Rush Duel touchups knocking it out of the park once again

[valid cave]

berries

[dusk sleet]

I think the berry stuff was like some generic Plant type monster yeah?

[valid cave]

LUMIIIIII LUMI LUMI LUMI

AAA,

[valid cave]

weirdly enough, aqua actually! here's the existing berry fresh cards
https://yugipedia.com/wiki/Berry_Fresh_Happiness https://yugipedia.com/wiki/Hunting_Strawberries

[dusk sleet]

Oh, Aqua!

Yeah, that also makes sense

[desert cosmos]

😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭

[dusk sleet]

So assuming each Neo Spacian monster is the same as always, they may not get too much opportunities to make use of their effects

[uncut badger]

RIP any chances that air neos had tho

[dusk sleet]

Aqua Dolphin may be pretty neat though; if your opponent kept onto a card instead of dropping it to replenish their hand next turn, it's a safe bet it might be a pretty scary card

[desert cosmos]

Or they just bricked

[dusk sleet]

Even if it isn't a monster, you can still get a look at it