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I'm dueling Yu-Gi-Oh itself
Having a Comeback victory against Romin seems pretty difficult right now. How are you guys doing it to unlock her?
Ahh. I only have one Dragias, but the problem is having my LP go down enough that doesn't lead to her killing me with Guitarna lol
You can just set stuff vs her at lv10
But then you won't get the better rewards.
I just pass and let her attack me for 1-2 turns, then summon my biggest monsters
As easily.
Is using all your cards in 1 go a bad move
For Rush Duel you genuinely wanna empty your hand each turn so you can draw up to 5
Honestly the only format where setting a Normal Spell is a good Idea other then setting it as a decoy lol
that being said, I've had games where I'll keep something like a Torna in hand to answer my opponents boss monster
From what I can get, RD is solving a puzzle.
And getting through a puzzle to beat your opponent little by little.
@robust void Dunno if that sounds about right.
its alot more back and forth then usual yugioh
i dont really see it. theres barely any effects in the game. you either draw into good enough beaters or you dont
conserving blowout cards was at least sometimes relevant in early DM, here everythings too low impact to really care about preserving and youre encouraged to use them to draw into beaters faster
Yeah, it's basically whoever gets a lucky hand wins sadly. Though I do think saving your ace can be important here, especially on your first turn.
thats reasonable enough, since the alternative would be running more high level monsters for late game but being more liable to brick
legend draw kind of supports this theory, just being a way to crash into dragias a lot of the time on command lol
akin to holding a monster
also i saw some guy saying voltcondor is broken with some skill they added. regardless of if its true its even broken, wtf skill are they talking about
115 packs later and i've finished the box... for the first time
Damn, grats. I had to get through 130 packs. 
oof
so it retains the strategy and luck-based elements of the game while eschewing a lot of text reading?
and no cards that can be used in the graveyard?
bruh
yeah there are no card effects that activate in the GY
hi-defense only i guess
also when are we getting united resist-ants
5 packs in
i love the counter trap response being applicable to all rush offensive/defensive traps
deck out kek
how do i look for rd replays in game?
i think you have to go to sevens world
if you wanna unlock it early you can go to the shop and get the free structure deck
man I forgot about this format of having to wait days for a full event to unlock. I need Mimi since I already hit level 20 with everyone else
I need luke and Gavin level 20
Right now the best deck is Tenyi, but Rokket is also decent
Tenyi ain’t shit
I have beaten every single one I play
im just going off what Duellinksmeta says
being someone with NO ranked experience, i wanna say raging pendulum is only beatable by shooting star road or by ultra-rich decks, or if the raging pendulum player has faulty internet.
Focus on one deck at a time
Ok but i wanted to buy an structure to play
You need three of most structure decks for them to be playable, and only good ones require other multiple structures or other investments like boxes or selection boxes
pretty sure good staples can carry anything now
monster-heavy decks are hampered by the field size
damn my second box popped off. I got all URs with like 55 packs remaining
I might get a full playset
Got a dragias during the 10 first packs of my second box, and gravity press dragon and draconic pressure in the 10 packs after
It may be a sign to something
Hoping Mimis deck will be good, I got 2 Carriers from drops and gonna get the third from points
So some of yall may have realized that bug in the mobile version that some rush npcs make the game crash during the draw phase infinitely
This might be the reason why
for the gamers who haven't unlocked mimi yet can peek at what they'll get
a bio that contradicts everything we know because of the unlock event's story and a deck that will promptly be replaced with three multistrike dragiases by 71% of duelists
Btw what the hell is even the stradegie of her Boogie Deck?
Stall with LP gain until your opponent decks out?
Seems like it
Disco Fever doesn't sound that bad I guess
her cards are pretty dogshit
idk what they were thinking with her boss monsters only effect being lp gain and it's a discard cost
the fact they didn't give her her field spell either is ridiculous
whats the setup to do over 3k in one attack in rush
Prima Guitarna
or just sevens road magician against a low level npc
Or a Beetle deck
beetle deck?
A deck built around Diabolic King Beetle, playing most of the Level 1 Normals to boost their attack to high levels
btw apparently Disco Fever isnt translated right, the total level of the monsters has to be 10 or less
tag rush duels when?
Lmao
also his skill
Shout outs to the real gatekeeper skill being "activate 1 field spell"
The only one in the game is forest and it's in the box exclusively
lmfao that's amazing
btw since tbis game came out I started playing the switch game again
as bad as it is it's so much better than DL in terms of deck variety even though dragias is still the best deck etc
is there not a single down and down left or down right link 2 for pendulums to use
I can only find one for cyberse exclusively
The SEVENS Standard Duelist theme kinda goes hard, ngl.
Yu-Gi-Oh! Duel Links bgm
SEVENS Standard Duelist ost Extended
Yu-Gi-Oh SEVENS
#yugioh #duellinks #yugiohduellinks
You know it really grinds my gears a good chunk of Rush Normals that have voice lines attached to them aren’t in the game yet
🫠
damn they had to make the ultimate event opponent Yosh bc Mimi's deck sucks too hard
Tbf is Yoshs any better?
The Dream is over. No Good Yosh as Legendary Duelist.
Tbf, it doesn't mean they can't add him later
See Quinton, for example
Or the Supreme King
the deck display for level 40 mimi is glitched
that's not an event deck it's my deck and shows up as such when the duel starts
fire someone
a GohaCorp product shouldn't bend so easily
(then again it's already bent if people are rushdueling on it)
freedom, got my third magenta horse
oh... this is gonna be rough
Looks like the easiest if you know what you're doing...unless you got no 2500 beatsticks, then yeah. Gonna be a rough one.
Hmm
40 packs left in witches sorcery and i get a playset of altergeist marionetter
But idk if i want to play geist or not
Hmmmmm
Better to wait until whether they'll add a Pick-Up box for Altergeist reprints imo
Iirc this is the only light spellcaster in the entire dl rush pool
So it has that going for it
uhh is that useful
it's a minor attack boost for sevens road
but that could just be a generic slot
is that a level 5, 1200 atk normal monster as a UR
i never watched sevens anime so there has to be some anime reason for that
There isnt
Konami makes loads of normal monsters with horrible stats 
As in the vast majority of them
If anything it's a good thing the good card is an sr because sr ranked tickets are far easier to get
Also, what has happened lately in dl, havent touched it since rush release to be honest 
Do we know who?
Vrains character 
Ur or sr, or both?
5 urs, 3 srs
You would be surprised by how long you can keep kogging with hero
I assume u have spellbook engine thn
I do
Lancea then ig 
In terms of meme choices
Either get loads of a staple, or just pick some random joke card ig
I could pick up a playset of jet synchron which i ignored while i was building blackwings
Do i want to spend my sr tickets on tunings tho

Tru
Wish i could get a dystopia since i have all the d hero stuff except for him
I think i could also build crusadia from tickets alone if i wanted to
I need to learn how to play bls
Have the deck on point but idk what do turn 1
Could kog with that this month
I could also get genex undines
Only have 1
Make super soldier, set 3
Or maybe screw serpents
I do not jest
This deck is awful holy shit
Does magistus improve anything?
I do have those
Give it a draw 1, to dig for more staples t1 and more bls names t2
Its good going second, plays thru stuff
Turn 1 it literally just sets and prays 
Society if dl would let you blind second
Dark hole 
But yh, rlly need to be able to pick first and second like in MD
I could maybe play toons
But i only have 1 bookmark
So that's rough
I wish i could have 5 sr dream tickets instead
Mini box archetypes have like
10 main deck srs and 1 ur in the extra deck
On another note
I got all my character to level 29/30 recently
So i'm having to do stuff like getting weevil to level 44 to get gems
It sucks

Weevil 
DL Subreddit is smth else 
Imagin struggelimg so hard on Blue Eyes that you need to make a rant Post
get rid of blue eyes and what's next, another one?
It's just 3000k beater spam on a good day
And Brick-Eyes on an usual day.
In which you look at your hand and say: "What a load of bricks."
Even the best Blue Eyes Deck Bricks just because of the need to run so manny High Level Dragons that can't Special Summon themself lol
If they had effects like "you can sent 1 Level 1 LIGHT Tuner from your Hand or Field to the GY; Special Summon this card from your hand" it would be different
But we don't live in a World where Kaiba gets good Skills lol
atleast I don't remember him having anything good
Only reason bewd was ever playable was bcs of legacy support and non archetype cards 
Yup
Their other post puts things into context i think
Omg that was the same Guy?

Yeah pretty much then
Damn
That's uh
Interesting Deck to say the least
You don't understand. Equipping a Monster with a shitty Spell is Synergy

So good, even not having a skill based on it like Blue Medicine did not deter it from being the most used card ever kekw.
I dunno why Blue Medicine pours it onto a fancy glass either like it's an amazing drink lol.
It's just Gatorade
True, Gatorade does taste as good as medicine.
I had gatorade for my first time ever last week
It LITERALLY tastes like medicine
How do people like this?
Like medicine, they ingest it in hopes of gaining the benefits and ignoring the terrible taste.
...What that benefit is is beyond me lol.
Energy?
No idea, but my doctor told me to drink it so i could regain electrolytes or smth
is speedroid t2?
they have problem maintaining control of the field if their boss monsters are disabled
Rogue currently
Has some really bad matchups right now
their main deck monsters are mostly ed fodder
disrupt their routine and you win
they have no defensive "save user" effects besides tri-eyed dice
Problem is that clear + crystal wing is just not a good board this format
Tenyi, trickstar, d hero and bls play around it very easily
Eeeyup, shame. We need better support. 
And the restriction to Wind Synchros really hurt.
Baronne next box trust
i had [summon breaker] up and they couldn't even produce crystal wing
modified be
Blue eyes?
While on modern skills
I'm surprised dinos dont have one yet
Considering 3 different characters played them
Rex, Hassleberry... who's the third one?
Gore
i wanna play titan showdown now
now the skill requires a dinosaur on your field
i like to build decks on vague ideas rather than established strategies
A shame that the Dinowrestler archetype is crap.
The only good monster from that archetype is Pankratops.
People experimented with the level 3 that summons itself
Very little results but they exist nonetheless
People also played the field spell to summon pank sometimes funnily enough
But Pankratops isn't in Duel Links.
And if it was, it would be as a bundle card.
As it's quite too powerful to be roaming free.
While on bundles
What do you think they will do for altergeist?
Multifaker? Imperm even?
Honestly wouldnt be surprised if a skill added imperm from outside the deck during your turn
Who did use Imperm in canon?
But it wasn't used in the anime until months after release.
But it could qualify.
I'm worried that perhaps it would be too powerful, since it can work as a handtrap going second.
Yugo didnt use crystal wing day 1 either
Btw
Touchè.
If faker did make it into a bundle, it would be the first one that doesnt have generic applications, wouldnt it?
What about Luster Pendulum?
Works in any pendulum deck theoretically
Even though it has its own archetype
Same with stormforth, cwing, and berserker
haven't seen monarches spike up in usage
armed dragon users also mostly evaporated
i am in gold which i suppose is generally a repeat of last month's platinum?
New toy syndome wore out probably
Stormforth doesn't help them on their gameplan, except making Ehther live in the opponent's turn, but otherwise...
And the only cards that they're missing are floodgates.
Monarchs were mostly known for putting out floodgates with their tributes. No Domain and no The Monarchs Erupt, and also, none of the Vanity Level 6 monsters.
Mega Zaborg would probably be a bit much, same with Mega Raiza.
We know we're getting Mega Caius, but doubtful it will help.
@sleek garnet I dunno, correct me if I'm wrong-
Speaking of Zaborg
Why is he the only Level 5 Monarch?
Same reason that absolute zero can use any hero as material instead of only elemental heroes
Extra deck monarchs were as popular, if not more than flood monarchs
But we dont really have the tools that made that good
A.k.a. brilliant fusion
Speaking of
There's more relevant ed monsters missing in dl than i remembered
Pleiades, ultimaya tzolkin, ab zero
void ogre dragon is revolver's de facto ace monster
101 is a huge one but it's not in the game due to lore reasons
the anime galaxy-eyes that was also a number that was in zexal ii is not in
Not much used number 62 outside of like
Dark matter dragon piles
And galaxy eyes themselves
I'm also surprised by how early we got the knightmare removal trio
I guess they wanted to push the world legacy storyline early tho
The only stuff missing from there is avramax, the stuff surrounding him, and post reset cards
We are also still missing a few Krawlers I guess
The 3rd Link and the Level 6 I think was it?
Oh yea right
qualiark, survivor, and mind meld
Soma is post reset
Knightmare goblin and gryphon are also missing i guess
I don't think we're getting Goblin. After all, look what happened to Mermaid.
The chances of us getting goblin is not 0 because we got mermaid, imo
Maybe, but... that makes me wonder what kind of shenanigans it would be allowed with Goblin in the game.
They probably give him to us via Trade till the next Banlist if not even earlier lol
Still funny to me that they thought Mermaid was fine even for that little time
Though I really want to make a "pure" Knightmare Deck some day
I guess Gobie and Mermaid will never get unbanned in any Yugioh variant be it MD or DL

Tbf mermaid without orcust is fine
We didn't? Weren't the Main Deck Monsters in DL way before we even had Links?
We didnt even have mekk knights when mermaid came out iirc
Well, fair
Meant the stuff in solflare lightning
We had Harp Horror and some Orcust monsters, but no way to abuse them.
Looking back at it
Photon of galaxy is probably the most well aged box in the entire game
True that, generic Rank 4 XYZs are some great tools even until now.
I'm glad my love for Galaxy made this box even more worth it to me.
...Though I hope we get more support for them once Mizar comes around.
I am just happy I finally got my 3rd Tour Guide and Sangan
Now I can play the Budget version of the Deck I use in MD
wind ups?
Stone King mostly
Well and the 2 Necrofear Versions
Wonder if we ever get the 2 Dark Spirits as a Limited 2 Bundle
Probably too annoying to be added
So close
real talk I'm coming around on the best deck of the rush duel format actually being yamiruler
Tecnically the first rush duel deck to get buffed since people are finally getting a 3rd copy of bonded bowing

Btw can we just talk about how condor has some of the worst conversion rates ever?
Deck is just unable to top
it's good for a free (lol) deck but the fact it's focused on numbers and not card advantage really limits it in comparison to yamiruler and dragias
also I don't have a third bonded bowing 
man I know it's an old point but it SUCKS how the level up and drop cards are the same
did they need to make the card rollout any slower
Voltcondor is weird because it tries to be an otk deck but it cant actually otk
idk if it even tries to do anything since technically a whole bunch of early rush bosses just do attack mods
prima guitarna can otk and even then it's just barely sometimes lmao
yeah that's true too, it's not as good
if your opponent is turtling it can't do anything
it's really unfortunate it's not a gain for you
btw choccy do you think there's any chance we get the go rush game now that the dub is confirmed
I dont think so
Since the first game didnt get any of the updates even after the dub
yeah but I think that's more to do with it flopping, and they might consider their odds of go rush succeeding higher bc DL is going to advertise for it to an extent
did you know the first game got an update right after the DL world launched lol
||nothing||
at least no one has found out what
I'd guess it's a copyright update or some kind of localization consistency with DL but in a best guess scenario they're prepping for a joint promotion with DL to try and squeeze more sales out of it
if that succeeds and the update comes out it could pave the way for the go rush game
is the go rush game even still updated
Hasnt been since january apparently
that's unfortunate
I thought it would be like master duel for rush
it's also far better than it lol
they have the ability to see the opponents hand in replays and I had to do a double take
is def points important in rd?
the only character events that matter to me are dennis,rin,tsukikage,chojiro,masumi,fujiwara (gx)
in Rush Duel not really
It matters for 1 deck exactly
And not really for the rest of them
is it yamiruler lol
which we sadly dont have yet
it's a really fun deck I'm glad I picked it up
having to weigh when you should try and use bonded bowing vs pushing offense is more decision making than any other rush duel deck atm lol
do all new characters have at least 1 rerun?
New feature?
I see.
Got the starting cast up to Lv 20. now just Mimi
Yeah, pretty easy to level them up when you're grinding in ranked
yo I thought that gate auto duel shit wasnt there before
now if only it applied to non events
True that, though that would be too good for us with all these Gate Keys kekw.
I just want my third bonded bowing without wasting my life on it
mizael used random dragons right?
only his ace was strong
Once per Battle Phase, at the start of your Battle Phase: You can detach 1 material from this card; negate the effects of all other face-up monsters currently on the field, also their ATK/DEF become their original ATK/DEF. During the Battle Phase, if you activated this effect this turn, each time an opponent's card effect resolves, this card gains 1000 ATK until the end of the Battle Phase, also, it can make a second attack during each Battle Phase this turn.
another yoshida-esque battle phase only effect
doesn't deal with backrow
Pretty much
even being a generic rank 8 doesn't do it much favors
what's a useful mu for this besides timelords
at least the negate doesn't write until the end of this turn
box b8 fo sho
@robust void got my second yamiruler

also got a dmg, a kimiruler, and a bassist in the same 10 packs
Gonna need to stock on pierce when maximums arrive
did I tell u yet I'm on my third box pull
I'm almost at a playset of everything
when maximums come maybe they'll just give us cranked to ten
Lol
really wonder how they'll balance maximums
wouldn't be surprised if anything can run them but you need a skill equipped to actually maximum summon
i forgot the implication of rd getting representation in kcc
catch me at the top with my p2w deck
i like how you can choose never to play rd but you still have to download all the files related to it anyways
Finished. Next goal, KOG
is d-hero also rogue?
with or without sunrise
i get the feeling they do just enough
Better than that
Deck still gets consistent results
dang could I take pure destiny hero on ladder
Does anyone have a decklist for triamids
There's no recent Triamids decks, sadly.
Most recent list in DLM is this, and it's a spicy deck.
https://www.duellinksmeta.com/top-decks/spicy-win-streaks/august-2023/triamids/d4rkl0r3/WfXws
And that was back on August.
Finally got sevens stage 30
Now i have literally 0 reason to touch this world other than ranked, sadly
And the "summon this guy 100 times" mat
Only have dragias' atm
@robust void LMAOOOOOOOOOOOOO
yea ppl cheating sadly
Wtf
see i knew they wouldn't be able to enforce the card segregation very well
Funnily enough
If you face one of these yourself you can copy their list
Wouldn't recommend it, though
i dont play rd so
i am still hoping for windwitch to make their debut
idk how similarly they function to speedroid
i just know snow bell grants some protection to the resultant synchro
just gotta report them
yeah I've heard of this. I've never actually seen it though myself lol
also there is nothing inherently difficult about separating the card formats. konami is just incompetent. there was no reason to expect this happening other than that
this be why rd has extra deck disabled
so that when glitches like this happen they can't sneak fusion/synchro/xyz in
it's not a glitch it's probably just bad programming. they didn't use some basic server side verification methods to prevent non-RD cards being used. I find it irreconcilable that the company that would neglect simple exploits like this would be the same company that's devious enough to disable the ED for a problem they predicted but somehow couldn't prevent
What’s maintenance for
new data
maybe even box leaks
next event be tag duel
which is one of the few extant events that isn't pvp
Also, they changed LP amounts for Rush Duels, it seems?
For Ranked Duels it's going to be 8K.
Change hasnt been implimented yet
Advance Notice it is, then.
This reeks of that change they did for a season to 5k LP for Ranked Duels... just to rescind it on the next season
I was actually thinking 6k was unnecessary myself
it also makes the first two turns extremely impactful because you might not be able to risk counter attacking without putting yourself in range of lethal
I think yamiruler will benefit from this the most fwiw
So they rewrote mimi's character bio after they revealed the plot twist in game
Only problem is that instead of saying that her ace is dian keto, they put in wyrm excavator instead
Aka asana's ace
huh?
where was this said
Bruh do they just have 1 person working on Rush Duels?
its more like 1 person working on all of duel links
but yeah ill have to give a citation needed on the 8k lp thing
and are you sure its not fur tag duels and not ranked duels? because there's a tag event coming up and it includes sevens world
speed tag duels have 6k lp so rush tag duels having 8k lp would make sense
they have 1 developer, 1 Roland!, 1 "hey uhh where's the voice actors"
Asana's ace being mentioned, even if by accident, raises a couple of questions
Is she the next character? Are they going to just skip Roa and Nail?
Doubtful, maybe they planned very far in advance for these characters.
the rate is still one character per month
that's never changed
too busy with other mmo to play dl
Been failing hard at both Speed and Rush Duel lately...might need to take a step back for the month. 
i said in the survey my most wanted character was asana
and since im probably the only one who filled it out
i get my wish
really though i dont think shes coming even this year. shes tied to maximums and wyrms are a powercreep unless you skip so many of their cards that theyre not a real deck
I dont even remember what i filled in during that part
I think it was dennis, blood shepherd (let me cope), otes, and nail
i actually dont know those first two, they prob werent in the switch game
otes would make a lot of sense to come quickly given the opportunity to shill for blue eyes
My most wanted change in the survey is to fix that damn bluetooth earphone audio!
whats up with it
I can't listen to anything in-game with my bluetooth headphones anymore.
lol
Apparently turning the in game notifs off helps
how the fuck
Yea
I'll have to try that.
man i really wish this and MD had an autoclear notifications after 24 hours setting or some shit
i fucking hate loading every individual one with their crap servers
But yea like
Blood shepherd's deck is currently anime only but HOLY SHIT HE IS SO COOL
lmao, he lost alot of cool factor when he started whining about wanting to be a lone wolf.
what deck is that, i thought they had all the vrains shit by now
Drones
Fair
But yea like, look at this fucking guy
His deck basically boils down to "Do X, if this effect would be negated, it isn't, and you get to do Y on top"
he's in link evolution and in challenge mode his deck is spyral
he was one of the ones I played against the most because even with that games dogshit AI double helix and sleeper pops were among the most challenging things to deal with
very low bar but I needed something
https://duellinks.konami.net/att/031d63a196ea226afdc1a9e0f7dfa13dc1f77f0101
really good duel replay by me for my homies who love good duels
probably the best RD I've had so far
also you can save another 10 replays for the format
you know a duel is good when both players send a Nice
Yea they're basically edgier trickstars in how they play
Oh btw
He's ghost gal's brother
ghost guy
They had a duel together and it basically boiled down to
too bad they almost never design anime original cards anymore for the games first
GG: "i negate your effect"
BS: "Lol, lmao"
Turn 1 was literally ghost gal having imperm and multifaker in hand
And not a anime only trap that activates in hand, LITERALLY IMPERM INTO FAKER
"I negate your effect-"
"No."
dragons need to be hit so badly in rush duel
giving them dragias, the attack lowerer, the dark hole, and the attack/level raising skill was nothing short of psychotic
but ofc konami HQ is full of scalies so
just played against a guy who passed their first turn in gold and I checked their deck
Joey would be proud
I'm proud of them they helped me rank up
does rd have turn-dictating skills
aka you can do this this and this but you have to follow the restrictions outlined in the skill text
this guy gets it
@robust void If they don't care about that, then I think this is pretty much the end of DL.
I dunno how has been the reception of Rush Duels, but doesn't seem all that hunkydory.
a bunch of people in the comments are treating it as normal
Yeah, I don't think that's normal.
In my concept, it's a sympton of the game dying (the rampant cheating).
Probably it won't be too long until Konami shuts down Duel Links for good.
this hack has existed for the main game for years
I also haven't ran into a single cheater and I'm almost at kog
it's not rampant
DL makes too much money while requiring a relatively small amount of money to be put into it
They won't kill it in the next 6-7 years minimum
lmao i cant believe anyone is still reporting the chess accusation as fact
Uhh... probably not something to show here?
Remember we have young people here as well.
there are young people on Reddit too
last too URs foir my second box were literally in the last 2 packs... ughhhhh
dl was always a side venture that became more relevant due to covid isolation
i rly wish it weren't built on unity tho
takahashi actually did art for gx release
now almost nothing in dl is hype unless u rly luv the upcoming char
i don't play to re-experience vrains
in fact i hardly played since climbing out of gold
I wonder if climax beat is playable with only 2 prima guitarnas
the skill? sure why not
I only had 1 for a while
btw it's cute how many people on ladder run every single level 7 monster lmao
they def ran through the box once
arrrrgh I can't get over how we only have 1 romanpick its so fucking important to the design of psychic musicians. they can't just not have it. they drew the line there but dragons get like 5 ban worthy things
man I wish DL had a feature that filtered out monsters that dont work with your skills
my baxia is looking a bit metal today any guidance
I swear ever since i got my third Yamiruler my chances of drawing it have gone DOWN
I can go through half my deck without seeing one copy
ive been running a spellcaster engine for that reason
you cant go over 1300 attack though so it's just mystic dealer and el doriado
infinitrack ishizu
Could someone help me with my deck it's a bit brickyard unless I'm playing it wrong but I don't believe so
#ShareDeck #DuelLinks
https://duellinks.konami.net/att/02cdf179bbddd69b68e66c8538dc9d711eeacd7faf
any advice for first deck ?
get staples
book, compulsory, lance, x cyclone, etc
then research understandable archetypes and skills
I've been playing on ladder with both bls and salad
Salad feels better to play despite being considered weaker
Suppose it's a matter of preference on my part tho
Get something that's both really cheap and that you like
Most of your early dl experience will be trying to get staples
So having something you can use from the get-go will be really helpful
Shame you can't get the Pick Up box anymore. BLS would've been a decent first deck.
Yea
Let's hope they bring back the Pick Up Box for Altergeist. Maybe that'll be the next best thing...
I dont think we'l get one though
Considering that geist already got reprinted in the super mini selection box
On that note tho,
The selection boxes and the half gem sale will end at the end of this month, will they not?
Wait what? Wasn't it just Monarchs and Mekk Knights that got reprinted?
The one we got at vrains' launch
whats a pick up box
This is the only one example
40 packs, each pack costs 50 gems, no limit on how many packs you could open
oh this fuckin thing
I had no idea what to make of it
I'm on the verge of cutting bonded bowing entirely
you need it and one other card for it to not be a brick in a game where not putting down three monsters means you can get OTK'd
also since you're wanting to use it when yamiruler is first summoned you essentially need two more cards to be tributes for him
it's a lot to ask for something that is mainly good for drawing into a second yamiruler
Fudge, so it was time limited?

Ain't that a thrill?
Duel Links implementing even more FOMO like the gacha game they're meant to be. 
At least in MD you could craft those cards.
At least in Duel Links, the duels are shorter. 
Can you even make that new Blackwing Armor Master Level 10 Synchro?
Or was that just a one Time thing they handed out?
Cause I am sure I was not able to craft it myself
I think that was a lifetime mission on a campaign?
I dunno if you can get it currently. It came with a campaign in regards of that BW structure.
you can def make it as I've seen people summon multiples
I assume they meant obtaining it and not summoning it
well you can obtain more of them if you can summon multiple of them
you were only given 1 for free
anyway I'm one rank from kog and I'm gonna switch to dragon spellcaster pile fuck it
in any format of ygo this is legitimately one of the most broken decks I've seen
it's just no one cares about this format lol
Fair lol
the number of dimensions to how much better the deck is than anything else is amazing and whoever allowed it to exist in its current state shouldn't be in game design. like unless it's nerfed into oblivion I dont see how it's not the best deck in the game for months
we're not even one full set in and this is gonna be beyond anything I'm aware of on the immediate horizon
do you mean romanpick? cuz guitarnas unlimited and I don't think she needs to be hit
what's SRM
Sevens road magician
Guitarna mainly she's the one getting put in aggro piles along with dragias
Climax beat is like, fine
SRM should definitely be at 3 right now. dragias clearing the field for SRM to hit for over half LP is insane and it's really easy to set up. I don't think guitarna is comparable because adding SRM gives you more access to the spellcaster engine and the psychic one kind of sucks because of 1 romanpick
torna is in a weird spot because it's going to help the strongest deck in the game if it's freed. I think the dragon skills in the game right now should be 100% xenophobic before that's even considered
I mean, you arent playing pick in aggro
yeah exactly
so guitarna is just an awkward extra chance to brick
Which doesnt exactly come up often
also by herself she can't get over 2500 walls unless there's more than one monster out. granted that's likely but dragoncaster pile is so hyper consistent and high power level that I don't think more is gained than lost by running her
you could even run that ticket level 7 dragon instead cuz at least that can be used in a grind game and gets over 2500 with that stupid skill
Like, if srm is put to 3 but prima isnt dragoncaster is just gonna run her instead and its still the best deck by a longshot
Also, the dragon skill IS xenophobic, wdym?
the ultimate thing is that you cannot fix dragoncaster with only one nerf
what are dragoncasters running when they have SRM, I don't remember
just legend draw?
Yes
But yea, all dragons
Would that actually make the game better?
It would just feel sackier if they do pull up dragias early
I love how celerity has more restrictions on it even though it's effectively the same function a lot of time of just removing a high attack threat
it'd be better than dragias at 3. I'd say ban it if I thought that was even remotely likely
I don't think they considered what the 30 card deck size does for dragias
well they didn't consider a lot of things
not launch with the dark hole, the huge stat reducer single tribute, the highest attack single tribute monster, and one of the best skills
Everyone that played rush at irl launch knew that dragoncaster being the best by far was kinda inevitable given the early pool
That's not dragoncaster tho?
What deck are you complaining about?
Pure dragons or dragoncaster?
dragoncaster can run all of those
they're both huge problems
there's a lot of overlap as to why
casters themselves are largely included just to get to dragons faster because they're the problem cards
They literally cant run the skill, spell is bricky in dragoncaster, pressure isnt good in caster, and summoned skull is not a problem inherent to dragons
I wasn't talking about the summoned skull skill, I meant dragonic resonance
the spell being bricky isn't a huge deal when you can run the easiest draw power and have stuff like the sports dragons and kuribot to get tribute fodder even if you don't draw all monsters
Ok
Let's set one thing on the record first
Which deck are we discussing?
First deck uses draconic pressure, the other is legend draw
I'll discuss either one but both are degenerate
Because like
You're discussing a deck while using negative points from the other
It's kinda confusing
yeah my bad
I didn't get everything straight
though I will say I see a lot of variety in dragoncaster builds
most are just pure dragons running 3 dealer 3 golem and however many copies of SRM
I've prob seen them try the aqua engine like twice ever on the ladder so far
Are they?
Most people only play dragias
certainly seems that way
they're just MDM submissions though, it's not the ideal sample
I mean
If we want to talk about only ladder then we should discussion how dark magician is all over speed ladder
People play more dragon stuff because its cheaper
I'm at the second to highest rank, I don't think you'd run into a lot of DM in the speed ladder at gold 1
lol
welp
I'm not convinced that means it's a better build in any case
I value my own experience more after how much I've been playing
I do think that dragons are over represented on ladder due to their comparatively cheaper cost though
that definitely factors in
Mulligan dragon is a ticket card, fire phoenix can replace dragias if you only have 1
being relatively cheap + arguably the best deck is super bad for diversity
Pressure and gravity dragon can be obtained at 2 copies with a single box opening
and they made really bad decisions like not giving other decks tools they would need to reach comparable power levels (1 romanpick lol)
I think the main problem stems from the fact that we only have 1 box rn
Cant do much about that
I would argue it's 3rd best, honestly
they couldve just not included gravity press or dragonic pressure in the first box
but they did
look at how badly everything else trades into gravity press for instance
About as well as everything trades with prima/srm, if not better
it's a single tribute for a type with its own tribute engine and leaving it on the field is leaving effectively a 2200 attack monster on the field, likely more with the skill which pushes it over every two tribute monster
those are two tributes
changes everything
Fair
A more apt comparison would be road witch and splat
Big during their turn, small during theirs
and on top of putting on so much pressure with a single tribute they can just nuke your field if they somehow can't out you with the stat difference they have
road witch at the very least is dependent on two cards, there's more scenarios where it can't carry you
gravity press literally punches over any threat unless you've got a really good phantom bind chance
as long as you discard 1 which is fine
The spellcaster skill pushes it to 2400
And you get srm for basically free
Gravity also has a discard cost tho
Also to be completely honest, the dark hole feels worse in practice, you're not exactly accomplishing much with it except a 1500 atk push in most circumstances
honestly can even turn that into a positive since dragons are incentivized to run many tribute monsters and they can discard a brick with confidence they'll draw another beatstick because they only need 1 kuribot or sports dragon or any tribute monster
Dragons cant run kuribot btw
they can if they just give up the skill
builds are so diverse you never even know what you're playing into
If they are giving up the skill then gravity gets way worse
Which kinda makes your previous point moot
pressure is also nuts for closing out games. if they hit you with SRM like once it's extremely easy to just finish you there
Cant you say this about any deck tho?
they don't need kuribot though, it's just an example of how many options they have
no, cuz other decks don't have field nukes
Beet atk increase, guitarna pushes, srm with a bazillion atk
How are they closing out games after the nuke?
if you set 3 they're not otking with attack alone
2000 LP is not that uncommon a situation to be in after they get a single hit in with SRM on top of whatever battle damage you might've taken from dragias or whatever else accompanies it
Tbh
The main point i'm hearing is that "dragons are the best deck because they can also be a completely different deck"
Which doesnt really make sense to me
nah, it's more like 80% of their best traits can apply to multiple variants and even if you don't include that 20% they're still in desperate need of being nerfed
what's the name of the magician skill you mentioned btw I want to double check it
I dont think they can, personally
Sevens accel road
Like
Gravity, the dark hole, and the sportdragons are not things you can throw around outside of dragons
I've seen them no shortage of times though
Representation≠Viabilty
also reading sevens accel road this is still nowhere near as good as dragonic turbulence and losing access to dragias etc
it doesn't mean they're unrelated though
I've played a couple of tournaments, it's a bit anecdotal, i'll admit, but pure spellcasters perform a lot better than pure dragons
that would genuinely surprise me but I don't doubt your experience
The main advantage being that they they're more consistent, and can punish setting 3 better than dragons can
how's that work? since they can only attack 1v1 whereas dragias gets them 4 attacks. there's torna and just punching straight on with SRM but that's relying on drawing into a 1 of
I'm not saying you're wrong I just don't get it
Getting access to torna/pierce is deceptively consistent because dealer and recovery force is drawing you stuff every turn
Pure caster is always running 3 torna and 3 srm, no reason not to
ngl I completely forgot how the banlist in DL worked lmfao
you get 3 torna that's right
ok that's fair
Also like
perhaps the gap between the two is smaller than I thought
yeah that card is gross
nothing else has that level of recursion
that's what's so frustrating about the game currently I feel
like in the tcg it's perfectly normal for decks to be better at certain aspects than others but in RD they put shit like the recursion spell or dragonic pressure in and it's not just a case of those deck types being superior at recursion or field wiping, it's that they're virtually the only decks with access to those tools period. and then they get gravy on top of it
It works for me, personally, each deck feels different to play with and against, which in the format with 1 box, i'd say that's a good thing
I think too many are just miserable to play as against dragon/dragoncaster piles for me to enjoy them
the power level difference and access to certain plays is so palpable, and the already superior decks lose nothing in exchange for those
I think my main gripe with this format is lack of backrow
oh yeah that reminds me
People tend to feel like aggro decks are better because they have no interaction on their turn
dragoncasters play into phantom bind better than anything else and it's literally your only way to interact on their turn
it's really weird they didn't do shit like give aquas access to party ball or jewelry trap hole lol
they didn't have to make the level ups or drops shitty
I think they should get city nights and bubble burst, personally
yeah that would be preferable
it's just an example
and they're traps (albeit xenophobic as hell)
I'm surprised we didn't get basics like the attack target changing one
it would've offset the hyper aggro meta somewhat
I think they wanted psychics and warriors to be the control based decks
But those simply dont have much to do
Warrior feels like the worst deck ever if you dont get to yamiruler, and psychics have no ways to deal with castling
warriors sort of work it's just that their defensive line is broken with ease and psychics just.... don't do anything unique besides severing psychic wall
and yeah no yamiruler soon enough is a death knell
if you're playing dragons for instance you don't necessarily need dragias because every tribute option you have is among the best in the game lol
psychics don't even have a one tribute effect monster right now do they
like wtf
psychics might've been fun with more romanpick for trying to otk with self burn and folder blitz/prima guitarna immediately
but nope
One thing i'm really curious about is the level cap though
I think they will be increased once neil rolls around
no one's gone above 35 in speed right? I hope theyre not too stingy rolling out more romanpicks or psychics are fucked
only 10 more levels for 2 copies of a high demand card doesn't feel great
Dm, gx, and dsod did
oh what are they at?
45, 45, and 40
goddamn
well regardless I don't like the idea of waiting months or years for a playset of the most important card in my favorite deck
for better or worse by then psychics will have other shit lol
but I'd prefer they didn't suck in the meantime for no reason
yeah I think I saw he got another one since I last checked
which is kinda cool but lmao
We have 1 copy currently
cubics are neat so I wouldn't mind playing them but
Rejoice
Yea
welp
Level 36 i think?
idk what motivates them to roll certain shit out so slowly when they have the means to distribute them already
I think they dont want people to do pick into pick x100 so early
it wouldn't even make psychics the best deck though
Like, they very clearly want rush currently to be unga bunga
why overbalance them of all things
It's less about power and more so that they would feel a bit too close to a speed duel deck
that's an interesting perspective
it would make more sense
beyond that my concern for romanpick being precedented as a level up reward means we won't get the other copies by the time it's still relevant
it's not an insignificant card
fuck I don't think I'll make the prism
but I have like 6000 normal copies lol
I hope they'll consider breaking form and have romanpick be an event card or something so we don't wait a year for levels to increase twice
You can throw all your fans at the gate by auto dueling at level 40, could get you enough to prisma it
Maybe
been trying that but I think it's too much
I bought all the crystals first which was a mistake
Currently grinding for the R gems you get for points after you get the title
Want a playset of prismatic gaia and curse of dragon
Btw
Just want to point out
Vrains and sevens have the same number of characters currently
oh so it's progressing faster
Despite vrains being out for over a year
hopefully
Ghost gal will come out this month so that will change, but its funny
are you on the team that thinks they're just going to shift to DL being the RD app and MD being for the original game
No
oh btw part of why I'm tilting today might be because I'm still only running 2 fucking yamiruler
so it's even worse
If the double character release is to indicate anything is that speed isnt getting sidelined
people were doomering in here about there being less content but I'm not familiar enough with their recent schedule to tell if that was based on anything
Boxes are getting alternated between rush and speed
So it has some basis
But it's not going to be the end of the world
It's good thing, in my perpsective
Speed duel was gonna run out of cards to import at some point
are we likely to be waiting 2 months for each rush box cuz that'd be miserable imo
Most likely
goddamn
it's gonna take so long for the meta to develop. especially if they keep minis
The rush box did get classified as a main box
Probably means mini rush boxes will exist
At 80 or less packs
Possibly 60
At the bright side, whatever gets put into rush minis will be insanely cheap
Royal rebels perhaps?
btw I've been grinding nail like crazy in the switch game. he's ranked as a top tier opponent so he gives max money, but yggdrago is probably missing support because his deck is so terrible everything beats it lol. yggdrago seems interesting in theory though, like exodia deep draw as a dedicated strategy
royal rebels became meta at some point didn't they? I know the first wave or two wasn't so maybe that will be cheap
Nope, the deck just kinda sucks
Yggdrago was the first maximum to exist so it didnt try to address any flaws with the mechanic itself
oh it was before yugas? huh
that explains a bit
I kind of thought it was the other way around since it had a draw engine lol
did maximums ever become viable
Ocasionally, but nothing too impressive
that's better than I expected
they're a really fun concept that goes well with the draw 5 concept, always wondering if you're gonna assemble your giant Kaiju next turn
lol
how does that work
The individual pieces have their own effects
oh they're not just vanillas anymore then
I expected that to happen eventually, it's a big drawback
Basically they have an effect, but the effect gets better if they were maximum summoned
right
my favorite maximum was the wyrm one because the individual pieces were tolerable vanillas
oh yeah I saw the harpie maximum
it's fucking awesome
this is the best maximum deck? I'm really looking forward to it then
Yea it is
oh shit I never checked the datamines lmao
But the maximum was released in like, july this year
yeah
I know
it's gonna be in a decade
I'm used to MD
btw sorry if I got too argumentative earlier
I live for petty discourse, no worries
I don't want to come off as a stubborn casual or anything. and im playing a game at the same time so my arguments were pretty poorly constructed I admit



