#duel_links

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pastel lotus
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likewise kazuki takahashi's name isn't in the bottom of the new image either

quick axle
pastel lotus
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yeah i know the reason why its still rather disheartening though

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we still have no clue who is managing studio dice now

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maybe eventually it will just be bought out and merged with konami

pastel lotus
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iirc to unlock ruka: win with rua 100 times

weak bough
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yeah

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just gonna be a bit of a pain

mighty bramble
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What’s maintenance for now

peak mesa
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Should I get stardust warrior by ticket or with my 1500 gems?

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Or abondon doing a quasar deck with the shooting star road skill

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Nvm

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But kind of remember that some did make that kind of deck

pastel lotus
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still waiting for artifact xyz, wind witch, and entermage hat tricker

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if you use the default skill's effect to make monsters level 5 then ss akumagne (malicious) you can get another level 6 synchro for yourself

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i just dk what level 6 non-speedroid general wind synchros are there besides splendid rose and orient dragon

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dragunity specifies the monster type needed so that won't do

pastel lotus
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niche but chanbarider can use [gravity blaster] basically rainbow veil for machines

vivid waveBOT
weak bough
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according to duel links meta

white stirrup
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BINGO!

fallen kestrel
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And the WCS begins

peak mesa
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Bonds that illuminate future shit ngl

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Before turn 3 your opponent just will casually otk your ass easily ngl

fallen kestrel
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I am 7-0 at the moment in this

weak bough
fallen kestrel
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My first WCS loss was against another raging pend KEKW

sleek garnet
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btw

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auto deckbuilder now can finally add skills into a decklist

quick axle
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Not that it makes it worth it, mind you.

fallen kestrel
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13-1 at the moment

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Dropped a game to a bricky hand vs raging pend PeepoCry

quick axle
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Sadly I cannot bring myself to care to play the game again. More than burned out, I'm tired of the extreme P2W stuff in the game, as gems are so ever scarce, and way too many boxes in which you can spend your resources wrong.

sleek garnet
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This deck is so fun

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I'm getting away with winning games i should had no right to

quick axle
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Oh, and side note? We're in KC Cup period, so a banlist should be coming in a bit more than two weeks.

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A brief reminder that this is not a good time to invest on decks.

pastel lotus
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holy

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some guy xyzed kibouou hope the lightning on me

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then attacked my red-eyes fusion, which puts his kibouou hope's attack back to 2500

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then he lost due to connection problem

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i didn't even have traps set or handtraps so it felt like i won without doing any clever strategy

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either way, time to win again

peak mesa
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Madlad on japanese

pastel lotus
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cardian be pretty much, "draw a card that is not a cardian, and your turn ends", right?

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i wondering if this deck could be improved on at all to any significant degree

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this deck was made when tth was still limit 2

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cardian can only gotten through valhalla calling aka the aesir box

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you literally cannot make plays if you don't have pine in your opening hand

weak bough
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cubic can only make plays if you get vijam in your opening hand

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and you only get 1 vijam at aigami level 38 or by using a skill

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and in order to use said skill you need minimum 14 "cubic" cards, which can only be gotten as level up or duel rewards for aigami

pastel lotus
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no blue-eyes skills mandate a certain deck configuration

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talking about the "show 2 blue-eyes white dragon in your hand, get 1 free fusion in your hand" skill

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don't like skills that railroad your deck

weak bough
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speaking of blue eyes, love that you have to get dsod kaiba to 35 in order to get yugi

pastel lotus
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i get the feeling i should have saved gems for one for one

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either that or rota would help my cardian deck so much

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umm... your character ticket?

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just use that

quick axle
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@pastel lotus They're missing like more than half their support.

pastel lotus
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you know this why

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i thought you only played meta stuff

quick axle
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I'm out of the game.

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So I'm not playing meta.

quick axle
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(Sorry, I thought the meme was appropiate.)

pastel lotus
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not teading it

drowsy holly
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Okay soon™️ I'll have Phantom Knights.

dapper grotto
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Speedroids are for me right now. Can't stop won't stop.

drowsy holly
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Oh yeah I already have those well enough.

pastel lotus
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ok so the only really xenophobic card in cardian is susuki aka zebra grass, putting susuki on field imposes an archetype lock for the whole turn, thus the only way to really synchro with botan into a non-cardian synchro is to either survive into your next turn with field intact or set urgent tuning and hope your opponent goes into their battle phase

drowsy holly
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I would like 2 more taketomborgs but I'm fine with just 1 lol

quick axle
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Oh, and this is me wondering about the stuff missing.

pastel lotus
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problem is they have no archetypal 2 material synchros

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let me look at tsukihanami

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[moonflowerviewing]

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# pastel lotus [moonflowerviewing]

level Level: 6
[ Warrior / Synchro / Tuner / Effect ]

ATK 2000 / DEF 2000

Effect

1 Tuner + 2 non-Tuner monsters
Once per turn, during your Main Phase: You can draw 1 card, and if you do, show it, then, if it is a "Flower Cardian" monster, you can Special Summon it, ignoring its Summoning conditions, and it can attack directly this turn. If you activated this effect, skip the Draw Phase of your next turn. When this card is used as Synchro Material, you can treat it and all other Synchro Materials (that have a Level) as Level 2 monsters.

peak mesa
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Man htf do read kanji

pastel lotus
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still a 3 material synchro

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not brazilian or spanish so i can read it

peak mesa
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Hm kinda want to try cardigan deck

pastel lotus
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always make sure you have 3 of pine

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most cardian cannot ss on an empty field

sleek garnet
peak mesa
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Also is it possible to get quasar on shooting star road?

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Skill

pastel lotus
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exactly what it means

sleek garnet
normal oar
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What box is orcust in?

sleek garnet
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Solflare lightning

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Harp horror is in spirit of judgment though

pastel lotus
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solflare has [discord] for the lol factor

vivid waveBOT
pastel lotus
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but to pack that means you are over preparing or are farming a specific gate duelist

quick axle
sleek garnet
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Yea

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The "Not brazilian or spanish" part kinda leads to some uhh

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Questionable implications

pastel lotus
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mai playing cardian would technically allow one to make near-perfect plays if they equip her with aroma tactics

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i have to see which deck i feel like deleting from her though

peak mesa
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Average super heavy gameplay

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But man idk why I'm like able to do comebacks from the 2 matches I had

sleek garnet
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I mean

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Shs as a deck was designed to be resilient

peak mesa
sleek garnet
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Can i see your decklist?

peak mesa
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Ok

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Weird ratios ik

sleek garnet
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Well, the obvious upgrades here would be more copies of wagon and peacemaker

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I assume you only opened the box once?

peak mesa
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Only boxes

sleek garnet
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Do you only have 1 peace?

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Just to know

peak mesa
sleek garnet
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Do you have any generic synchros of note?

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Trishula, scarlight, etc

peak mesa
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Nope

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Are they on packs like crystal clear wing dragon

sleek garnet
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Some are

peak mesa
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Oh ok but I don't have them but have the gems

sleek garnet
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They arent mandatory

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Just nice to use if you already have them

peak mesa
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I want nice but I don't think I have enough gems lol

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I have like 650
700 if I get the inbox

sleek garnet
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Btw

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Do you have any kaiju?

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Dogoran was in the decode talker box, and mecha king was in the quinton event

peak mesa
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Nope

sleek garnet
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Do you have any superheavy samurai scales?

sonic nimbus
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ok nvm now I understand why Strangle Lanius got limited 3 holy fk

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now I can do Solda and Evilswarm Nightmare pass

drowsy holly
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sigh

I'm kind of upset phantom knights are so expensive ;~;

dapper grotto
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They were great when they only came in one minibox once upon a time ago. 😭

calm wolf
tropic herald
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the more time passes the less okay I'm becoming with xyz summoning

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I like the concept but so many people can just easily throw an XYZ monster onto the field and pop one of yours

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xyz summoning makes it easier to get out of situations

white stirrup
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Wich one are you talking about exactly?

tropic herald
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there's multiple xyzs who can just pop a monster off the field when they get summoned

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galaxy eyes photon dragon did it to me just now and I had to hit surrender

white stirrup
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Well that's most likely a Xyz focused deck then
Don't know what else even plays it

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Also pretty sure any deck can make smth that pops a card

tropic herald
tropic herald
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and almost every time someone brings out an XYZ it’s to pop

stuck field
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how can i fix this ?

sleek garnet
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@tropic herald gonna be honest, if you keep complaining about the game because you keep losing, either switch decks, try to improve as a player, or switch games altogether

pastel lotus
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facts

pastel lotus
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the 2 main reasons why thousand eyes restrict is never meta is due to: it needs to take an opponent's face-up! monster to have damage potential, it needs to keep that monster as backrow in a meta where backrow removal is extremely common

sleek garnet
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That first point doesnt really matter

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Who is setting monsters during the link era?

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The actual reason is that relinquished/the fusions are a 3 card investment for a mon that has no utility going first and also has no protection

pastel lotus
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floodgate effects is basically forcibly adding certain rules to the game, where you hope one of those rules will actually inconvenience your opponent's strategy

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it's still a shot in the dark though

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see chaos hunter, which would prevent opponents from using banishing as removal or to pay costs

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the reason why it was in some sd in the tcg

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would also prevent them from activating fusion gate's effect since they can't banish

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also to add to drink's last point, you have to hope your opponent leaves a takeable beatstick and hope they have no skill prisoner available to actually make your 0 attack monster useful in the battle phase

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but you might as well just take one beatstick from their graveyard via monster reborn instead

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the same reason why equip magic rarely see play, they are useless on an empty field, its easily to have an empty/heavily crippled field because there is too much field removal, most equip cards are stat changes which can easily be lost due to removal of the monster equipped with it or that monster becoming ed fodder

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i think noble knight was one of the few decks that has floating equip cards

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where even if you xyz summon the sword will come back to be equipped

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if there was less removal there would be more of a reason to invest in constant stat gains for your monsters

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but its almost always climb up into stronger monsters

sleek garnet
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Noble knights played them because otherwise stuff like [medraut] dont obtain their effects

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# sleek garnet Noble knights played them because otherwise stuff like [medraut] dont obtain the...

level Level: 4
[ Warrior / Effect ]

ATK 1700 / DEF 1000

Effect

This card is treated as a Normal Monster while face-up on the field. While equipped with a "Noble Arms" Equip Spell, this card becomes an Effect Monster with this effect.
●This card becomes DARK and its Level is increased by 1. Once per turn, if you control no other monsters: You can Special Summon 1 "Noble Knight" monster from your Deck in Defense Position, except "Noble Knight Medraut", and if you do, destroy 1 Equip Spell you control.

pastel lotus
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another problem with equip cards is: generally affects only one monster, takes up valuable magic/trap space

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evil eye seems to like idk why

quick axle
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@pastel lotus For the record, there was a time when Noble Knights were meta, mainly because of Balance helping their awful consistency significantly. Once the consistency skills got hit, Noble Knight disappeared immediately.

pastel lotus
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i still remember a lot of yumas playing evil eye

sleek garnet
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You cant really choose not to play it

pastel lotus
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because balance is a guaranteed equip in the hand so

quick axle
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@sleek garnet That's how it was during the Noble Knights meta, right?

sleek garnet
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Yea

quick axle
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When both NK and Desperado were a thing.

sleek garnet
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The goal was to always have medraut/drystan, an equip, and a discard trap/until noble arms are needed again

quick axle
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Balance helped fix hands significantly.

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And it was because of the insane consistency that Konami had enough of consistency skills.

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Hitting all of them during that infamous banlist.

pastel lotus
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one could say consistency skills aren't really needed in a 20 card minimum deck

sleek garnet
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Yea

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Honestly

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I like more skills shooting star road/clear wing acceleration

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Stuff that increases your ceiling is nice

dapper grotto
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RIP, too late to KoG this month. Oh well.

sleek garnet
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You have 4 hours left kid

quick axle
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Remember that Ranked Duel Seasons starts at 9:00 PM EDT.

sleek garnet
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Oh

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Right

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Forgot ladder resets at a different time

mighty bramble
quick axle
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Oh, sure, you do you.

mighty bramble
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I just keep forgetting to get the necessary stuff

peak mesa
pastel lotus
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i like rod of silence

peak mesa
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The scales shs In a box?

pastel lotus
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mainly because it protects from bom and ec

tropic herald
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So I'm back down to platinum thank god

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but my first duel was against a guy who had an evac device and a book of moon in his hand and I couldn't do anything

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I wanted him to use those before I brought out any eyes restricts but instead he just attacked my golden eyes idol and it was a knockout

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there's literally nothing I can do against book of moon or evac device, I can't even bait them out

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if someone has either one in their hand my entire deck is done

pastel lotus
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cough

tropic herald
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if I know they have it and I try to bait them out I get fucked, and if I go all out anyway I get fucked

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just one fucking spell/trap card can end my entire optimized eyes restrict deck

pastel lotus
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this reminds of all the inner monologues in the yugioh anime

tropic herald
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unless I have a very good hand

tropic herald
pastel lotus
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thx for the scintillating rundown of your dueling pov

tropic herald
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it fucking sucks dude

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everyone should have to be on my level, as far as I'm concerned

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it's unfair as fuck that I have to be so many steps behind just because I wanna play nostalgic monsters

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I'm at the point where I hit surrender the moment I know someone is playing orcust because I know I'm not winning.

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This ain't some fucking anime you don't just win by believing in your deck you'll just get clowned

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but god fucking dammit do I wish I was living in the yugioh anime world so I could win with even a bad non-synergized deck if you believed in yourself

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the reality of this all fucking sucks

tawdry crown
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Yeah that how it be irl

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Weaker decks more susceptible to being blown out

tropic herald
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I think it was a mistake to have even made what was a good manga like Yugioh into an actual card game

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since it turned out like this

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my friend was just telling me she can't even play her vampire deck against anyone but friends occasionally due to all this meta sweatlord bullshit

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if you can't see the problem here, idk what to tell you

tawdry crown
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Comes with the territory of a game as big and old as Yu-Gi-Oh, not every deck and strategy can be created equal

tropic herald
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if you get relentlessly crushed because you want to play an older monster archetype, there's something wrong with the card game

drowsy holly
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I mean the manga wasn't that good but I thnk any time you're in a game with other people who kind of have to adapt to other people and current strategies to a point.

Not saying you have to run top tier stuff but there's no need to insult people who do and you can't really expect older strategies to compare to newer and stronger strategies.

tropic herald
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I'm told that even in magic and pokemon, older cards still hold up fine

drowsy holly
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I mean, not really.

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I have friends really into magic and besides some stand out cards newer cards still blow older cards out of the water.

tropic herald
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the option of conform and invest in newer stuff or get repeatedly destroyed is utter crap.

tawdry crown
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I can guarantee even in magic and pokemon there are strategies which work better than others

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You can play your petdecks if you want to, but you do need to set expectations

drowsy holly
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^

tawdry crown
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I'm sure licia and me are no stranger to that

drowsy holly
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mmmhmm

drowsy holly
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No you can.

tropic herald
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you'll just get wrecked

drowsy holly
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You 100% can.

tawdry crown
tropic herald
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it's an illusion of free choice

drowsy holly
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Just again, set the right expectations.

tropic herald
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I'd like to play on casual mode on duel links instead of ranked but it seems it's just full of bots who run the same thing

tawdry crown
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It may actually be better to try on ranked

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And see how high you can go

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And stay there

tropic herald
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I already know how high I can go

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legend 1

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and I never want to go back

drowsy holly
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By playing a pet deck you're limiting yourself vs someone who plays a more up to date deck with more power and strategies.

If your pet deck is what makes you happy that's fine, just don't expect to compete with people trying to get every edge from their decks to win. There's nothing sweaty try hard about that, it's how some people get enjoyment.

tawdry crown
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Ideally you end up somewhere where you can win half your games

tropic herald
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I want to have fun and have a relatively even amount of wins and losses at best

and it isn't fun just being repeatedly knocked out by meta players

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I wish casual wasnt full of bots because I'd be there and I wouldn't be complaining

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because in a setting like casual people are gonna want to play pet decks or have fun more since there's nothing at stake

tawdry crown
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That is making the assumption that having fun and having a strong deck are mutually exclusive things all the time

tropic herald
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when there's stuff at stake like in ranked people are gonna do meta shit

tawdry crown
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Which is why you will probably still see meta decks in casual

tropic herald
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well it's whatever

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there won't be as many

tawdry crown
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People want to be as strong as they can without worrying about ladder

tropic herald
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If I could I'd just nuke the meta entirely and have yugioh be an anything goes card game like in the anime

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people should be able to play what they like and get some wins

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simple as that

tawdry crown
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If you nuke the meta I guarantee people would immediately try figuring it out again

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Such is the competitive nature

tropic herald
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probably

tawdry crown
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People strive to find the best

tropic herald
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wait did you miss the part where I said "anything goes card game"

tawdry crown
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I'm not quite sure what that means

tropic herald
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casual

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I want yugioh to be where everyone can have fun and win with what they want

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like idk, mario kart

tawdry crown
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You would probably need to take away winning and losing from a game away entirely to accomplish that

tropic herald
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No you wouldn't

tawdry crown
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Any game where you try to win people will try to figure out what stategies are better than other

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Even in Mario kart

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Driving better and what items to hold to protect yourself

tropic herald
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depending on the setting, sweating over meta shit is either more or less rampant

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there's people who try to do the most optimal shit in any game but it depends on the game and the setting of the game

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and if yugioh was more casual, it'd be better and more inviting

tawdry crown
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This also goes back to what I said about Yu-Gi-Oh being such a big game

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There's so many many cards

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So everyone will use different tools

tropic herald
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and some toolkits are completely unviable now which I think is bullshit

tawdry crown
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And some of those tools are less effective than others

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The kind of game you're looking for would probably easier exist where tools to pick from were more limited

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So that balancing them all was actually possible

drowsy holly
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I mean there's a difference between unviable and unplayable.

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And I will fight to the death anyone who says otherwise.

tawdry crown
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In Yu-Gi-Oh it's a forgone conclusion that some cards will be better than others by a huge amount cuz of how many there are over so many years

tawdry crown
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The deck made me very sad

drowsy holly
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Hey it's better in duel links lol

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Like I still play vampires xD

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🦇

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Oh and dark machine.dek

tawdry crown
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I heard in duel links vampire was like red eyes lol

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Forever somewhere in the realm of workable

tropic herald
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the yugioh card game is just nothing but suffering and I should've never gotten back into this shit again

tawdry crown
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For the longest time

drowsy holly
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And just built bujins.

tropic herald
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I hate my friend for trying to get me into it and succeeding

tawdry crown
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Honest suggestion, play with your friend

tropic herald
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it would've been better for my mental health to have continued to be blissfully ignorant and thought of it as "that one game I'd play on the playground as a kid"

tawdry crown
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I have 100x more fun playing yugioh with friends than on ladder

tropic herald
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he'd destroy me with dark dragoon every time

tawdry crown
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Cuz we know to screw around with each other

tropic herald
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ever since I started this season I haven't gotten a single win

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probably because all the legend sweatlords are back at plat too

drowsy holly
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I think honestly instead of trying to diss people who play meta stuff you should take a look at it and see if anything looks interesting and give that a try.
Might be the best place to really improve.

tropic herald
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a single win. and I used to win kinda frequently in plat

tropic herald
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but I'm intimidated by that game

tawdry crown
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I think md is a more friendly experience for actually playing yugioh

tropic herald
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I really liked eldlich's design and apparently it used to be meta but now it's getting destroyed by tear

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so it was like

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what's the point now

tawdry crown
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In duel links there's events and lvling and stuff to keep up with

drowsy holly
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You could find a deck similar to Eldlich.

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Like what do you like about them?

tropic herald
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Big shiny gold edgy tyrant

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he looks cool

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not much else to say

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six sams also looked neat design wise but they're no longer meta either

white stirrup
tropic herald
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you're right, it's tricky but can be easily destroyed

drowsy holly
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Like I have the deck, if you study other decks and build right you can still use it.

tropic herald
drowsy holly
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Better imo.

tropic herald
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this still feels like an illusion of free choice thing

white stirrup
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Yeah Six Sams is still a good Deck in itself just not Meta relevant

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It's Xyz is pretty meh overall lol

drowsy holly
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The synchro and fusions are good though!

tropic herald
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still zero wins in platinum.

white stirrup
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Even the regular Shien is good cause he can negate

tropic herald
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I can't trust what you all say about six sams because of what I've experienced

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if I play it I'll just get destroyed

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I can't think of an archetype that suits me more than eyes restrict because I'm a creepy fucking zero who's a parasite

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doesn't mean I won't play something else, I'm just saying

tawdry crown
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Cubics look pretty similar aesthetically

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Although I don't know how good they are in duel links right now

tropic herald
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oh I'm not into relinquished for the aesthetics

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I'm into it because I'm a pegasus fan

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but good to know

white stirrup
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If only we had [Illusionist Faceless Magician]

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# white stirrup If only we had [Illusionist Faceless Magician]

level Level: 5
[ Spellcaster / Effect ]

ATK 1200 / DEF 2200

Effect

If a face-up "Eyes Restrict" Fusion Monster(s) or "Relinquished" you control is destroyed by battle or card effect: You can Special Summon this card from the GY (if it was there when that monster was destroyed) or hand (even if not). If this card is sent from the field to the GY: You can target 1 "Eyes Restrict" Fusion Monster or "Relinquished" in your GY; Special Summon it. You can only use each effect of "Illusionist Faceless Magician" once per turn.

white stirrup
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Just put him on to limited 1 because he is a recursion fucker

peak mesa
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Also man htf did the chat filled up

tropic herald
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this edgefuck just stole my monster and I can't do shit

peak mesa
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Skill issud

tropic herald
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fuck you

peak mesa
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Also judging with the power of the guardian

tropic herald
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I'm timing this guy out

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I still have zero wins

peak mesa
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I don't think your using any staple cards

tropic herald
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I'm about a step away from saying a bunch of awful shit to you right now but I'm restraining myself

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that's how mad I am

peak mesa
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Why not use forbidden lance

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Gets your eyes restrict safe for a turn

tropic herald
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it's in a box isnt it

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cant get

peak mesa
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Also your on platinum?

tropic herald
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yeah I got ranked down from legend 1

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but now it's full of people from legend too

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so it's impossible

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again, zero wins.

peak mesa
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Why not play on shs it's very cheap

tropic herald
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all my 10 latest duels are losses.

peak mesa
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If you have the other some ur cards too

tropic herald
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I'd just go play a different game I'm better at right now but I'm stuck at my fucking apartment with a shitty ass office mouse for my computer meaning I can't play fps games

tropic herald
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what the fuck is shs

peak mesa
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Superheavy samurai

tropic herald
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meh

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all I know is I'm fucking miserable

tropic herald
#

I prefer how six samurai look as far as samurai aesthetics

peak mesa
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Or even get better support for it

tropic herald
#

I have a black luster soldier deck which sucks

peak mesa
#

Can I see the deck list

tropic herald
#

I tried to optimize eyes restrict as much as I could

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and it got me to legend 1

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at least

peak mesa
#

Just let me see

tropic herald
#

okay well that's you

tropic herald
peak mesa
#

The deck

tropic herald
#

relinquished?

peak mesa
#

Yes

tropic herald
#

happy now?

peak mesa
#

Hm.......

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Idk what with the deck

fallen kestrel
peak mesa
#

[thousand eyes]

vivid waveBOT
# peak mesa [thousand eyes]

level Level: 1
[ Spellcaster / Normal ]

ATK 0 / DEF 0

Effect

A wicked entity that controls the hearts of men, its thousand eyes are able to see and expand the negative influences in an individual's soul.

tropic herald
peak mesa
#

[thousand eyes restrict]

vivid waveBOT
# peak mesa [thousand eyes restrict]

level Level: 1
[ Spellcaster / Fusion / Effect ]

ATK 0 / DEF 0

Effect

"Relinquished" + "Thousand-Eyes Idol"
Other monsters on the field cannot change their battle positions or attack. Once per turn: You can target 1 monster your opponent controls; equip that target to this card (max. 1). This card's ATK/DEF become equal to that equipped monster's. If this card would be destroyed by battle, destroy that equipped monster instead.

tropic herald
#

just in case I decide to bring it out

peak mesa
#

What's the name of the sr

tropic herald
#

which

peak mesa
#

In the extra deck

tropic herald
#

millennium eyes restrict, it's the best card in the deck and more or less the boss monster

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you can grab up to three enemy effect monsters with it

peak mesa
#

[millennium eyes restrict]

vivid waveBOT
# peak mesa [millennium eyes restrict]

level Level: 1
[ Spellcaster / Fusion / Effect ]

ATK 0 / DEF 0

Effect

"Relinquished" + 1 Effect Monster
Once per turn, when your opponent activates a monster effect (Quick Effect): You can target 1 Effect Monster your opponent controls or in their GY; equip that target to this card you control. This card gains ATK/DEF equal to that equipped monster's. Monsters with that equipped monster's original name cannot attack, also their effects on the field and their activated effects are negated.

peak mesa
#

In a situation this is gonna go down crap with my shs deck

tropic herald
#

not surprised

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it's a gimmicky bad deck

peak mesa
#

It's a sitting duck if the opponent did try not to activate any effects

tropic herald
#

eyes restrict as a whole is really

tropic herald
#

then you can use it to grab an effect monster

peak mesa
#

Even if shs is very reliant on card effect could summon a monster and attack and pass

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Check most of the main deck monsters in superheavy samurai

tropic herald
#

I need to pray my opponent doesn't read effects and isn't used to dealing with restrict in order to win

peak mesa
#

They have barely any attack

tropic herald
#

I know

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I've faced them before

peak mesa
#

Well still right the game is going more faster

tropic herald
#

what are you on about

peak mesa
#

I don't even know if players could literally just do more summons and get the same board too

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Also even crystal wing

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Just negates monster effect

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The entirety of speedroid and clear wing can summon the monsters easily and negate monster effects

tropic herald
#

Why are you spelling out a bunch of shit I already know

peak mesa
#

Just sayin

tropic herald
#

You think I don’t know what it’s like to lose constantly to this?

peak mesa
#

Then why not try using a new deck

tropic herald
#

Sunk cost fallacy

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Not to mention I already tried building a BLS deck too and guess what; it isn’t good.

peak mesa
#

Idk check your cards you might have a archetype that works rogether

tropic herald
#

This isn’t some damn free simulator

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I can’t just slap together another deck

peak mesa
#

Idk just check

tropic herald
#

I could do Gaia

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Technically

peak mesa
#

Even tho haven't played a long time shs still kinda decent

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Why not do gaia

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It can pop cards and make your opponent can't do anything with the attack

tropic herald
#

I need one more of the structure. It’s possible but

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Idk

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I feel like I’m just gonna lose again

peak mesa
#

Eh

tropic herald
#

And the investment will be for nothing

peak mesa
#

I'm just only playing shs and synchrons

tropic herald
#

Just like my other two decks

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It’s a DM archetype after all and it seems like no matter what, you’re always on the backfoot with those

pastel lotus
#

waded through a whole waterfall of posts to get here

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every deck should have a side strategy if their main strategies fails

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if your main strategy has a high failure rate then its not worth it to be a main strategy

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you might as well be playing zushin

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i always looks for unmeta solutions to meta cards

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that keeps the game fun for me

peak mesa
#

Shs isn't meta but you gotta have some plans on how it's gonna go out

pastel lotus
#

rod of silence is funny with their beaters

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gets 500 def and immune to targetting magic cards

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can force their bow to pop and generate a free search

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i played choujuu musha pre-arc-v

peak mesa
pastel lotus
#

no its an actual equip card

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[rod of silence]

vivid waveBOT
peak mesa
#

Spell?

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Well shs hates spells and traps

pastel lotus
#

it also pops all its monster equips

sonic nimbus
pastel lotus
#

because any equipped monsters in the backrow is actually a magic card and thus gets nuked by rod

peak mesa
#

What's the effect?

pastel lotus
#

and rod isn't even opt

peak mesa
#

Breuh

peak mesa
#

Does it steal cards?

pastel lotus
#

does paradox's skill steal a random dragon?

sonic nimbus
#

Silverokket Dragon if targeted by a Link Monster's effect banishes 1 monster from the opponent's extra deck

peak mesa
#

Lmao

sonic nimbus
#

[Silverrokket Dragon]

vivid waveBOT
# sonic nimbus [Silverrokket Dragon]

level Level: 4
[ Dragon / Effect ]

ATK 1900 / DEF 100

Effect

When a Link Monster's effect is activated that targets this face-up card on the field (Quick Effect): You can destroy this card, then look at your opponent's Extra Deck and banish 1 card from it. During the End Phase, if this card is in the GY because it was destroyed on the field by battle or card effect and sent there this turn: You can Special Summon 1 "Rokket" monster from your Deck, except "Silverrokket Dragon". You can only use each effect of "Silverrokket Dragon" once per turn.

pastel lotus
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so if i go up against someone who had both clear wing and crystal wing i wouldn't know which one i would be stealing?

peak mesa
#

Jokes on you I have too much copies of the 3 cards

sonic nimbus
#

No the effect allows you to look at the opp's Extra

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And pick 1 to banish

peak mesa
#

But like still can roll

pastel lotus
#

cloak and dagger can banish x monster

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btw wisel can't suck clear wing

peak mesa
#

Negate

pastel lotus
#

you'd have to make clear wing level 4 or lower to remove its self protection

peak mesa
#

Thoughts

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Eh?

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Ye clear wing can't do crap with wisel

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But crystal can

pastel lotus
#

clear wing can still stop wisel

peak mesa
#

uh

pastel lotus
#

it prevents monster effects that targets a level 5 or higher monster

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which includes itself

peak mesa
#

[clear wing]

vivid waveBOT
# peak mesa [clear wing]

level Level: 7
[ Dragon / Synchro / Effect ]

ATK 2500 / DEF 2000

Effect

1 Tuner + 1+ non-Tuner monsters
Once per turn, when another Level 5 or higher monster activates its effect on the field (Quick Effect): You can negate the activation, and if you do, destroy it. Once per turn, when a monster effect is activated that targets 1 Level 5 or higher monster on the field (and no other cards) (Quick Effect): You can negate the activation, and if you do, destroy it. If this card's effect destroys a monster, this card gains ATK equal to the destroyed monster's original ATK until the end of this turn.

peak mesa
#

No it negates level 5 or higher cards

pastel lotus
#

it also negates card effects directed to a level 5 or higher monster, not just effects from a level 5 or higher monster

peak mesa
#

????

pastel lotus
#

read

peak mesa
#

Oh right....

pastel lotus
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hence you always chalice it before using monster effects on it

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pretty sure clear wing can stop timelord on its own

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but can't destroy them

peak mesa
#

Lol

peak mesa
pastel lotus
#

seems ok except you have no answer to fth or bom

peak mesa
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I have another peacemaker but I tried to minimize my deck

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What's fth and bom?

pastel lotus
#

cards that make your stuff face down

peak mesa
#

Oh right

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But most of the time it negates targeted effects if lucky

pastel lotus
#

the only disruption they pack is the attack drain from glove

peak mesa
#

But even so I can stall sometimes

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Unless it's full blow

pastel lotus
#

face down is very risky because if you flip summon them they become attack position which actually make them weak

peak mesa
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Unless I get in the time to synchro them

pastel lotus
#

if you can't synchro it away then it becomes a bruise spot

peak mesa
#

Ye

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It's either you need to stall or go tribute it

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The problem is also it uses the hands too much

pastel lotus
#

soul beads work on any defense position monster which is lol

peak mesa
#

Goes attack if revived but eh

pastel lotus
#

its free revival for any monster destroyed by battle in def

peak mesa
#

Wait wha

pastel lotus
#

the effect isn't archetypal

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which means its splashable

peak mesa
#

When all of my shs gets destroyed can be put back at the end of the battle phase

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[superheavy samurai soulbeads]

vivid waveBOT
# peak mesa [superheavy samurai soulbeads]

level Level: 1
[ Machine / Effect ]

ATK 0 / DEF 0

Effect

You can target 1 "Superheavy Samurai" monster you control; equip this monster from your hand or your side of the field to that target. Each turn, the first time the monster equipped with this card by this effect would be destroyed by a card effect, it is not destroyed. When a Defense Position monster is destroyed by battle and sent to your Graveyard: You can send this card from your hand to the Graveyard; Special Summon that monster in Attack Position.

pastel lotus
#

it only revives 1 monster

peak mesa
#

Yes

pastel lotus
#

but it ss without negating effect and doesn't even say it has be from its archetype or be machine

peak mesa
#

Also dang it's universal but also like for specific things

pastel lotus
#

anime cards effect text tend to be not overly archetypal

peak mesa
#

Synchron lmao

pastel lotus
#

swordsman's cute for being a stat drain if attacked into

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its like being instantly wod

peak mesa
#

Well gtg I'ma charge my phone

pastel lotus
#

before there was tth there was wod

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but wod was a battle trap

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so it only hurts if you battled

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tth is high payoff with no cost

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if it was only able to destroy face-up monsters or monsters with a level it'd be much less versatile and be well, balanced

weak bough
white stirrup
#

You are better off getting Evilswarms tbh

#

Rank 4 Spam is still relativley good

quick axle
#

I'm going to chime in that discussion.

You're free to build anything you want to, whatever your want to. You want to build your favorite deck? Feel free to do it so. You want to play a deck from your favorite character? Knock yourself out!

But then it comes the ranked ladder, and... that's where the "illusion of free choice" reaches its ugly head. You can play whatever you want to, but it may not be good for the competitive nature of the ladder, where the better decks will end up eating more vulnerable decks on the higher ranks of the ladder. In the case of Eyes Restrict, the deck is awfully weak to staples, so if you ever succeed with the deck, it would be a thing to admire, because it would be considered rather spicy, but... considering the frustration I've seen so far? I'd say it's not worth it.

My takeaway from all of this? You're free to play whatever you want to and have fun with casual decks. Don't expect a deck like that to be good against more competitive stuff. If you're always going to feel frustrated, you may as well take a break from the game. That could help on how you've been doing through.

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@drowsy holly Honestly, I'm not completely sure if this is alright.

drowsy holly
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Huh

quick axle
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BTW, this is aimed towards @/RestrictedEyes.

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I'm just speaking with the insight and experience I have with the game.

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I may have stopped playing it, but the experience never goes away.

drowsy holly
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It's a mental issue tbh, and the same mindset can be applied to a lot of things. Mostly other games.

quick axle
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Oh, I'm not saying that's incorrect.

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I'm just speaking with insight, trying to take a middle ground.

weak bough
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oh yeah i'm not saying don't go for cubic if you like it

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it's just so tedious

sleek garnet
fallen kestrel
quick axle
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@fallen kestrel IIRC, you see that you're a meta player. I wanted to get your opinions in regards of my standpoint about wanting to build any deck in DL.

sleek garnet
#

Wooooo

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we keep losing boys

sleek garnet
quick axle
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I was just trying to chime in.

sleek garnet
#

Yea sounds about right

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The thing about purposefully playing weaker decks is that you have to know what you're signing up for

quick axle
#

They're called "spicy decks" for a reason.

mighty bramble
#

Are Trains a spicy deck

white stirrup
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Trains are a Unga Bunga Deck

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Big Number hits hard

fallen kestrel
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I mean

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When building a deck u have to realise what its actually built for and why ur building it

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If u r building a deck for its competitive ability, go play tier 1 decks, but if u just wanna play for the fun of it, go make something like I dont know, cipher cos u like kite, u have to build it with the knowledge of “if I play ranked with this, it might not go very well”.

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It largely depends on ur reason for playing and ur reason for building decks

fallen kestrel
quick axle
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The problem is that, someone is complaining because their pet deck isn't working for ranked, complaining about Book of Moon and a million of stuff that's obvious on a simple glance.

fallen kestrel
#

It was restricted eyes right?

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Cos to KOG with that u need a few things

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  1. Luck of the Gods
  2. Some absolutely crazy skill
  3. Commitment for like months probably
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Obviously depends on current metas

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But still

quick axle
quick axle
fallen kestrel
#

On another note, Varis players scare me KEKW

fallen kestrel
#

Dlm has an entire section of them, most of which I cant believe ever KOGed or won tourneys

quick axle
#

Wanting to play serious competitive decks, there's like way better decks to do it, even with power creep.

fallen kestrel
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Also cheap ones

quick axle
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It doesn't need to be a meta deck, necessarily, but a consistent and powerful deck that can fight through the ladder.

fallen kestrel
#

This current meta is very cheap to be honest

quick axle
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But... rule of thumb, we're in KC Cup time, so investing in decks right now is a horrible idea.

fallen kestrel
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Orcust when built tight is cheap, OE is just structures, DDD is cheap

quick axle
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After that, it would be Banlist-O-Clock.

fallen kestrel
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Which wouldnt be a problem if I could get my nobledragon

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Also

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This 1 of lancea carried some matches to be honest

quick axle
#

Even if I don't play, the insight of years of playing the game doesn't really go away.

fallen kestrel
#

Best feeling is succeeding in guessing the opponent is on orcust and playing dweller plus volo pass

drowsy holly
#

Personally I'm just vibin with my arc v decks, I don't care if they're meta or not it was my favorite time to play the game.

peak mesa
#

I thought it's a functional archetype but no lmao

peak mesa
#

But also shs it's decent but not game breaking

drowsy holly
#

yeah, arc v just had all my favorite archetypes.

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shs, raidraptor, d/d, speedroid, phantom knight, and of course Fluffs

peak mesa
#

Kind of want to make speedroid but they are expensive D:

drowsy holly
#

I'm glad I did.

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Crystal Wing turbo is fun lol

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And being able to recycle clear wing is chefkissguyfieri

dapper grotto
#

I often summon both Zeta and Crystal Wing turn 1.

drowsy holly
#

Zeta?

dapper grotto
#

[Psyframelord Zeta]

vivid waveBOT
peak mesa
#

Kitedrake is just the desperation

drowsy holly
#

ooooh

peak mesa
dapper grotto
#

Yeah, I often try to avoid using Takemtomborg's tribute effect to avoid locking myself.

drowsy holly
#

Honestly I'd like more Wynns but I'm not going for that lol

peak mesa
#

How me get more takemborg

dapper grotto
# peak mesa Eh? Why

Zeta is an interrupt to those Orcust links or deter them from OTKing me if all else.

peak mesa
#

What it's effect again?

dapper grotto
#

It banishes itself and a special summoned monster in ATK position

#

Until the next...standby phase I think?

peak mesa
#

Does it come back or no?

dapper grotto
#

It does.

#

[psyframe lord Zeta]

vivid waveBOT
# dapper grotto [psyframe lord Zeta]

level Level: 7
[ Psychic / Synchro / Effect ]

ATK 2500 / DEF 1800

Effect

1 Tuner + 1+ non-Tuner monsters
Once per turn (Quick Effect): You can target 1 Special Summoned monster your opponent controls in face-up Attack Position; banish both that monster and this card from the field, but return them in your next Standby Phase. If this card is in your GY: You can target 1 other "PSY-Frame" card in your GY; return this card to the Extra Deck, and if you do, add that target to your hand.

drowsy holly
#

This is my current build

peak mesa
#

[Psy framelord zeta]

vivid waveBOT
# peak mesa [Psy framelord zeta]

level Level: 7
[ Psychic / Synchro / Effect ]

ATK 2500 / DEF 1800

Effect

1 Tuner + 1+ non-Tuner monsters
Once per turn (Quick Effect): You can target 1 Special Summoned monster your opponent controls in face-up Attack Position; banish both that monster and this card from the field, but return them in your next Standby Phase. If this card is in your GY: You can target 1 other "PSY-Frame" card in your GY; return this card to the Extra Deck, and if you do, add that target to your hand.

dapper grotto
#

Ok, MY next standby phase

drowsy holly
#

Might drop Stardust for a cloudcastle

dapper grotto
#

Yeah, Stardust hasn't been relevant for a while now lol

peak mesa
#

Tbh like how are you guys getting the cards

drowsy holly
#

Yeah I was looking for a lvl 8 wind while I was building them.

dapper grotto
peak mesa
#

I want to make the deck tbh

drowsy holly
peak mesa
#

Better

dapper grotto
#

I'm using the Harpie Synchro, but it wasn't super relevant except for 1 off game where it saved me

drowsy holly
#

I'm slowly working on phantom knights now but wow is it suffering lol

peak mesa
#

I'm considering to drop dream tickets on stardust warrior

drowsy holly
#

I need the silent boots >.>

peak mesa
#

How do people get shooting star dragon tbh

#

I only know only special packs

sleek garnet
#

It's in a lifetime mission iirc

weak bough
#

i think it's shooting star road

tropic herald
quick axle
#

Oh, you're not wrong in that regard. You can look for people to play with.

#

I was just saying that your deck won't prosper in the heated environment in the ladder. Not even meta decks, there's decks that are way stronger than your pet deck.

tropic herald
quick axle
#

Then if you can't just conform, then you can just stop playing the game altogether, if all you're going to do is complaining and screaming about "how the game is being unfair with the staples and everything".

#

Again, you're free to build your pet decks, but not all of them are great in the ladder. Probably on the lower ranks, but once you get higher and higher, the power ceiling becomes greater and greater.

#

And then, if your deck doesn't have the power level to compete, you're just going to struggle.

tropic herald
#

I used to do well in platinum but now it’s full of good players ever since the reset

quick axle
#

That's normal.

tropic herald
#

What is

quick axle
#

After the ranked reset, former Legend players in the past season will become Platinum.

tropic herald
#

How long should I wait until playing again

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Without being curbed by former legend players

#

Last season, every rank was doable up until legend with my deck

quick axle
#

I'd say, wait a couple days, but even more than that, I would consider starting building another deck that can compete in the ladder, and save the Pegasus one you have for fun stuff.

#

Oh, Legend is going to be a mess, because that's where the real trouble begins.

tropic herald
quick axle
#

Legend is the last rank before King of Games, and that rank is filled to the brim with most of the best decks at the moment.

#

To get past Legend, you need a deck that can muster the power level of the ladder.

tropic herald
#

I never want to go back to legend

#

As I said

quick axle
#

Just be warned that you cannot rank down before Legend.

tropic herald
#

I know that

#

I’ll throw if I get to plat 7 and my next match will rank me up

quick axle
#

Platinum is kinda filled with powerful players, but not as fiercesome as the Legend rank players.

tropic herald
#

I’d get on and off wins in Plat

#

Normal stuff

#

@quick axle should I go on dueling nexus?

#

Seems like there’s more people there who just do fun decks and aren’t meta sweats looking to climb a ladder

quick axle
#

I wouldn't know, I don't use Duelist Nexus.

sleek garnet
#

I just bought more land in the metaverse

quick axle
tropic herald
#

Are you getting paid cash with Atlas Earth though?

sleek garnet
#

The glow up is visible

tropic herald
#

Cop a couple more

#

@quick axle how far would six sams get you in DL

sleek garnet
#

Probably kog

quick axle
#

Six Sams is decent, but their power level is no longer what it used to be,

sleek garnet
#

A spell negate and a double bounce is still pretty strong

#

Got a couple of stuff off the list as well

quick axle
#

Also, and this is very important, hold off on investing on new decks.

#

Right now we're in KC Cup period until the next Sunday, and then a few days after that, the banlist will be released.

#

It's not wise to invest on a deck that could theorically get hit.

#

Six Sam, of course won't get this issue, but still...

#

Also... Six Sam is a rather steep investment.

#

Since you need cards from multiple boxes, including a couple of Main Boxes.

sleek garnet
#

Doesnt look too bad

#

If you have the cards for it

#

Warriors unite is in the gem sale

#

So probably cheap to get 3 kizan 2 shien

tropic herald
#

I could make a Gaia deck right now if I got one more of the structure, I heard that was meta a couple years ago

quick axle
#

You need 3 copies of the structure.

tropic herald
#

I haven’t seen a single person run Gaia though

tropic herald
sleek garnet
#

Do note that powercreep is much stronger in dl since we get stuff montly

tropic herald
#

Hence why I said I’d need one more

sleek garnet
#

And that gaia has a terrible orcust matchup

#

Deck isnt all that consistent either

#

It also dies to staples

#

Which by your constant complaints you dont like to lose to

tropic herald
#

So I’d be getting clowned by stuff like lance, evac device, moon etc then

#

I guess there’s my answer

#

No Gaia

sleek garnet
#

Well

#

Not exactly lance

#

But evacuation, book, and even mst/cyclone in some hands

#

Yea

pastel lotus
#

anime (save for pot and fusion) eschews staples because it wants to be an entertaining show and aims for most cards to tie into the character's personality and interests

#

the same doesn't hold for real life

#

i love anime but i don't think i am delusional about the effectiveness of anime decks

#

is this new p2p event on for 2 weeks?

sleek garnet
#

p2p event?

pastel lotus
#

the not kc cup

#

i think i am at dv 11 or dv 12 rn can't remember

#

the new ranked reward card is another vg only card

#

p[dark arena]

vivid waveBOT
# pastel lotus p[dark arena]

level Level: 6
[ Spellcaster / Effect ]

ATK 1700 / DEF 2200

Effect

If this card is Normal Summoned: Place 2 Spell Counters on it. Each time a Spell Card is activated, place 1 Spell Counter on this card when that Spell resolves. Gains 300 ATK for each Spell Counter on it. Once per turn: You can remove 2 Spell Counters from this card; discard 1 random card from your opponent's hand.

pastel lotus
#

opponent picks your attack targets; every monster must attack when in a position to do so

weak bough
#

i am not going above like silver rank because i just want to play pet decks

lofty vessel
#

Question, if dragonmaids are going to be in duel links what dragon maid cards are going to be in it

drowsy holly
#

We don't know.

pastel lotus
#

i deliberately stayed silent on that one

pastel lotus
#

since they released endgame 5ds villain z-one divine has be permanently blacklisted from dl

#

he groomed aki and killed carly

#

so he is a pretty revolting big bad

#

might have had even a bigger role if the series didn't have to go through its rewrite

#

possibly even more evil than the dark signers themselves

#

normal carly was more popular so they included her

drowsy holly
#

Z-One reminds me a lot of EMIYA so gets major props writing wise for doing that trope well imo.

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Shame they couldn't commit to it in the end.

tawdry crown
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I have grown some appreciation for what the actual z-one we got represents over the years but it would've been definitely cooler if they committed to it actually being Yusei

drowsy holly
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mmhmm, like imagine a corrupted/evil Stardust Dragon being his ace.

tawdry crown
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It was definitely easier to write for the z-one we got cuz Yusei can more easily point at him and say "Just need to believe more like I do" than the actual very deep retrospection it would require from Yusei if it was actually himself

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If it was himself he would need to actually probably think how he himself got there

drowsy holly
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mmhmm

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Looks at EMIYA

tawdry crown
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In a way the z-one we got is the same story, since z-one was trying to be Yusei and live his ideals but then deciding that don't work

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The difference being Yusei could oppose him 100x easier

pastel lotus
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what was those ideals?

tawdry crown
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"Mmmm hope good"

pastel lotus
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that duelists breathe life into their very cards?

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every card has a use, even the weakest seeming ones

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kizuna man

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yusei poor but rich in experience and bonds

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btw stardust is a pretty derivative concept, some gundam ova in the 80's had the word stardust in it

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aki was like storm from x men, she had too many powers and was distraught on not being able to control them

peak mesa
pastel lotus
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yes

peak mesa
pastel lotus
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but a character's final status in canon has no bearing on whether or not they can appear in links

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actually no divine didn't die

peak mesa
pastel lotus
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it looked like it though

peak mesa
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Imagine a skill that ads extra main monster zones

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Also kind of want blazar to come

drowsy holly
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Also who the heck is divine lol

peak mesa
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The guy who taken care of aki

pastel lotus
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first anime relevant psychic user

drowsy holly
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Oh uh

pastel lotus
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beta villain of s1

peak mesa
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But just wants her psysics power

pastel lotus
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but he made her feel accepted

peak mesa
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Fuck physics and psyshic

drowsy holly
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Oh Sayer

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Got it

white stirrup
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Sayer

pastel lotus
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basically groomer

peak mesa
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When junk speeder in duel links

drowsy holly
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Yeah Sayer

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It always throws me off when people don't use the dub names lol

white stirrup
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He could have some nice Skills for generic Psychiscs

pastel lotus
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didn't use an archetype, much like rio

peak mesa
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He's sayer in the sub?

drowsy holly
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Oh then who the HELL where you talking about with divine lol

pastel lotus
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yo got misled

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his name has always been divine

white stirrup
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In the OG Japanese maybe

tawdry crown
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He's divine in the sub, sayer in the dub

pastel lotus
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i go off of the original work, not the 4kids version

drowsy holly
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Okay thank you Kreek.

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I was about to be really mad if someone was trying to gaslight me.

peak mesa
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Can trishula can work on superheavy samurai deck?

drowsy holly
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What

peak mesa
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Neat a bulletin

pastel lotus
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still rather have fujiwara in the game but still feels it's a shame divine got glossed over

pastel lotus
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when does wcs end?

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i have lots of characters that i need the rerun events for

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the only good thing about it besides free stuff was that it pushed up yugo's event to middle of the month rather than the always last week of the month

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also a huge shame that i can't get paradox's event cosmetics event though he was one of my most favorite characters

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loved the movie bro that has never made a proper appearance in all other games

fallen kestrel
weak bough
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just got the reward for playing 100 duels as leo, should be getting luna soon

dapper grotto
sonic nimbus
quick axle
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Probably the plot regarding him got erased due to the controversies in regards of what happened back then.

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In regards on who performed Carly being part of a cult, which caused the staff to shy away from the mystical stuff and recast Carly.

peak mesa
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Yeah kinda sad with the series circumstances

weak bough
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still upset with what they did with carly's character

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that being nothing

quick axle
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Okay, okay, that was kind of an obvious joke to make, sorry.

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I'll see myself out.

sleek garnet
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Decided to gamble in the selection box, cards i wanted were miracle fusion and crackdown

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They both showed up at the first 2 packs KEKW

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Actually insanely rewarded

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finished list

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honestly d.d. crow is better than lancea outside of the orcust and the pk matchup card does nothing

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crow is better vs stuff like speedroids, d/d/d, and hero

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hoping they only ban mermaid this list, unless something like return eats a limited 3 i dont really have to worry about anything

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tested both the babel and the mermaid variants, babel is muuuuuch better

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sure mermaid has like 8 one card starters, but it loses so often in grindier games it's unbelievable

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which when facing stuff like odd eyes you really dont want to lose gas in turn 5

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that and the fact that since people are only running 1 harp d.d. crow is kind of a insta win card vs that variant

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overall having a blast with this deck, i love toolbox-like playstyles and playing from the gy

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so the archetype fits like a glove to me

empty tree
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ofc they put it in the orcust box lmao

sleek garnet
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happens

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watch they put idp in the eldlich box or something

empty tree
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i didnt get sec before anyway

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i got crack and the math synchro

sleek garnet
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the first time i opened it i got like

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miracle fusion, 1 addition which i now use in farm decks, and some goukis

empty tree
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knigtmare mermaid is just summon pheonix but my current list finds it a knightmare to set up lmao

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i was trying to get firewall and unicorn and i still dont have them

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i also cannot be bothered to get a third harp

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i reset my account a year ago and tried to build lunalight but that flopped

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instead i pulled 2 harp and 1 couse so i just played dragunity until fluffal released

sleek garnet
empty tree
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does storm access still have the 1000 lp or less requirement?

sleek garnet
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yes

empty tree
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and does it still have heatsoul

sleek garnet
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yes

empty tree
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why

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heatsouls sole purpose is paying 1000 lp to draw

sleek garnet
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idk, play [supremacy berry] or something

vivid waveBOT
empty tree
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i just use the code talker skill

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with my boss as bomber since i dont have fw

sleek garnet
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gonna be honest

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storm access never came up

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you play it for the starting decode/firewall and the occasional powercode/transcode otk

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but i didnt have a single game yet where i both had the gas to make a firewall setup or wanting to do it over just clearing the board with the other extra deck stuff

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funnily enough the biggest upside of the skill is decode just randomly being a 3300 beater sometimes

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which tbh could come up sometimes

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and i havent bricked to the point where i want to play switcheroo

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nor did i faced the mirror and lost to play sealed tombs

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@rocky bluff you here kid?

rocky bluff
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yeah

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wait

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i'm still installing

sleek garnet
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Dont worry

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ok so

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this is the "i just insatalled the game and have 15$ to spare" build

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should get you pretty far in the wcs and in ladder for you to get more gems to build upon it

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once a day you get a campaign bonus

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you are brand new so you should get 2 at once

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day 2 of logging in gives an UR dream ticket

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day 4 gets you an SR dream ticket

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dream tickets are the most valuable resource in the entire game

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they let you get any box card you want of their respective rarity

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get staples with those

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UR options are book of moon, mst and cosmic cyclone

rocky bluff
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ok

sleek garnet
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SR has some generic ed stuff and tracherous trap hole

sleek garnet
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the skill makes you go +2 if you have scales up

rocky bluff
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has dl gotten so much more powerful?

sleek garnet
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yes

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we are 2019 tcg now

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power level wise

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for odd eyes, the first box you want to open is force of infinity

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it's a mini box in which you need 1 nobledragon magician and 1 metorburst dragon

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you could get those with dream tickets if you want but staples are way more important early on

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staples are interchangable, and skull meister is a f2p card you can get

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so is jinzo

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around a week of just logging in and playing the game for a bit your deck will probably look like this

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in this case, i got book of moon for the UR tickets, and volo and ebony magician for the SR tickets

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you dont need to get book per say, stuff like lance and backrow removal is fine

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dragonpit kinda takes care of that niche in the deck so i deemed it less necesarry

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next up you want to get wisdom eye magician, this is the newest box of the month, so use the bundles buy from that box instead of buying it directly

rocky bluff
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ok

sleek garnet
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this is an example of a bundle

rocky bluff
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during class imma let finish download tjan i will do that

sleek garnet
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17 packs of the newest box and a staple

rocky bluff
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so pull the noble and meteor first

sleek garnet
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you can get stuff like, rota, terraforming, and even luster pend if you want

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yea

rocky bluff
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than go for the wisdom eye?

sleek garnet
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mhm

rocky bluff
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once i get those 2

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alright

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bet

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and just buy 2 odd eyes sd

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i g te one for free?

sleek garnet
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yea

rocky bluff
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and grind wcq?

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for gems

sleek garnet
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1 with 4$, 1 for free, 1 for 1000 gems

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yea

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also grind world missions and level up characters

rocky bluff
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wait so only 4$?

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not 11?

sleek garnet
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1 character is like, 3k gems

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ok so

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the newest one you only need to buy one with cash

rocky bluff
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does it matter which character i level? or do i just do

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my starter

sleek garnet
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the old one has the pend vanillas and you will need 4$ and 1000 gems for that as well

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doesnt matter the character you lvl up

rocky bluff
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oh so i need

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6 structure decks?

sleek garnet
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yea i miscalced

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you need 5

rocky bluff
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ok

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ok

sleek garnet
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2 old ones, 3 new ones

rocky bluff
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i'll do that

sleek garnet
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so 2000 gems and $8

rocky bluff
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ok

sleek garnet
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after you get the synchro and stuff and wisdom eye you can open boxes for staples, stuff like cosmic cyclone, kozmo dark lady, dweller, steelswarm roach, etc

rocky bluff
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so spend 2000 and 8 dollars to get the deck than go straight to wcq get gems and get novledraon and meteorburst when possible tjan wisdom eye and use tickets for stspñesn

sleek garnet
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yea

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dont forget to use bundles to get wisdom eye

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doesnt matter which bundle you pick tbh

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just no reason not to get free stuff

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btw, the box with dark lady also has knightmare phoenix and unicorn

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so i would prioritize dweller/roach since they are in the same mini box, then dark lady

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OH BTW @rocky bluff

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there are 2 bundles for 750 gems each

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gets you 15 packs of either the orcust box or the wisdom eye box and box chips

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use your box chips to get cosmic cyclone

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so you can get 200 chips with the f2p missions, and 1 bundle for 750 gems

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then you get a cosmic cyclone playset for free

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also, altho it doesnt really matter which character you grind, prioritize yuya

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skullcrobat joker is locked to his lvl rewards

sleek garnet
sleek garnet
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So to recapitulate:

  • Get 3 of the new odd eyes structure deck, and 2 of the old pendulum sd, this will cost $8 and 2000 gems

  • Summon 100 monsters, activate 100 spell/traps and buy a bundle for 750 gems, this will get you 300 box chips, get 3 cosmic cyclones with those, do note that you only hold 100 chips at once, so get a cyclone as soon as you get the chips

  • Go into the the Force of Infinity box and pull 1 Nobledragon Magician and 1 Odd-Eyes Meteorburst dragon

  • (Optional) Buy special bundles until you get Wisdom Eye(s), each bundle is 950 gems each, wisdom eye is essentially a 0-3 of, good card but conflicts with pend call

  • (Optional) Go into the the Galaxy of Photon box and pull 1 Abyss Dweller and 1 Steelswarm Roach (Good rank 4s)

  • (Optional) Go into the Future Circuit box and pull 2 Kozmoll Dark Lady (Box has knightmares, even if you dont want to use lady you will probably open this box anyway)

  • (Optional) Go into the Stars of Synchro box and pull 1 Trishula, Zero Dragon of the Ice Barrier
    -(Optional) Go into the Heart of Xyz box and pull 1 Big Eye

  • (Optional) Go into the Raider's Requiem box and pull 1 Timebreaker Magician

  • (Optional) Go into the Fantastical Arc box and pull 1 Odd-Eyes Arc Pendulum dragon

  • When you eventually get your dream tickets, use the UR ones to get Book of Moon (you could also get stuff like forbidden lance or warning point if you want, book has better use in other decks though), and use the SR ones to get Voloferniges, the Darkest Dragon Doomrider, and Ebon Illusion Magician

Odd-Eyes is a very flexible deck, you can ignore most of the optional cards i listed, but they are nice options to have, depends on personal taste, check dlm until you find a list you like (Orcust odd eyes is probably worth avoiding tho, next list is in 2 weeks and mermaid is most likely eating it)

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@rocky bluff

rocky bluff
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ok

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these are the two i wanna get?

sleek garnet
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Yea

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2 of the dragon pit one

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3 of the odd eyes one

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also

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as a reference