#Pokemon TCG
final musk
Ninja spinner fully revealed
Reset Stamp somewhat back
There's like 3 actually good cards in the set, Greninja being kinda sus, and then the rest of the pack kinda sucks
Oh right and Expanded Drago got another toolbox tool
Mass Tool Wipe, Mass Special Energy Wipe, and access to high poison damage
mental carbon
Holy
mental carbon
I love the poke pad meme lol
final musk
Our wallets are in pokepain why are you laughing
(Thankfully they are in the prerelease kits)
steep crow
My lgs has zard upcs for retail and I just keep deliberating it
I just look at a 120 price tag and think "i could buy like 3 sars im never going to hit for that"
mental carbon
I just look at a 120 price tag and think "i could buy like 3 sars im never going...
This is the reason why when they first came out nobody was buying them lol
The 151 UPC was 89.99 retail (and even then, at the time they literally couldnât sell it)
steep crow
That shit sold like hot cakes in the uk
Premium sets (151, prismatic, dream) always sell out over here because we know its just a bonus on top of buying the packs at retail
Its the main set collections that dont sell as well
mental carbon
I sold a bunch of my modern stuff after realizing I enjoy collecting stamps more than anything
Look at these little guys
graceful summit
I just look at a 120 price tag and think "i could buy like 3 sars im never going...
Honestly, Id snag one just to have sealed. The Zard X promo alone cover 25% of the value and itll only go up from there
And like the old Zard UPC or the 151 UPC, itll def go up over time out of nowhere
steep crow
Don't like sitting on product
graceful summit
Fair, but Id def recommend picking up the promos sooner rather than later
mental carbon
Iâm so hype, I just picked up a legend maker stamped wynaut, Tangrowth lvl x and a holo pidgeot from holon phantoms for $50
graceful summit
Honestly, super happy to get it now too. It feels like one of those SIRs that will be bought out and never come down ya know
little falcon
Sharing 
digital crow
Oh shit pokepads
mental carbon
Probably my last few pickups for a bit
steep crow
Apparently people are checking their opponents poke pads when theyre losing to make sure theyre not from perfect order đ
graceful summit
Technically Perfect Order wont be legal until 2 weeks after the sets release (April 10th iirc)
So people are trying to ruke shark due to that
rich pine
But I thought what matters is the card name even if the set isnt legal 
At least thatâs the justification for cards that were printed a decade ago with different effects
graceful summit
Name and effect are all that matter
Even then, there are technically some cards on the errata list too like Super Rod
steep crow
Nah judges have ruled you cant use perfect order pokepads
graceful summit
Thats fair tbh
final musk
Nah judges have ruled you cant use perfect order pokepads
Not even the judges wanted to rule this
TPCI had to rule this and then inform judges to enforce this
terse temple
This hobby is so fried
Getting into pokemon because my son is interested and I want to support it
Picking up some stuff to learn with is fine but recent battle decks being scalped 60$ above their msrp is crazy work
steep crow
You can make the battle decks yourself for a lot cheaper, its mainly due to the exclusive art rare the decks have
Most competitive decks right now are less than $50
terse temple
ok whats your recommended resource for lists? We also dont need super optimized yet, just his first locals
rich pine
Tbh the base cost for comp decks are cheap af so going for optimized decks isnt that far off from casual decks
Limitlesstcg is a place for decklists and meta share
graceful summit
ok whats your recommended resource for lists? We also dont need super optimized ...
Here's one of the most effective "bang for your buck" decks right now
Limitless is general is the gold standard for PTCG results
And you can easily import decks into TCG Live to get some virtual testing done without buying cards
terse temple
well comp pokemon is actually a lot more interesting than I initially thought
steep crow
It is legit "you have access to your entire deck, how are you sequencing and anticipating" the game
rich pine
yep, game is a lot more interesting but also has a lot more unmitigatable luck which does get annoying at times
graceful summit
Yup, its got its own skill curve for sure. But sometimes you prize your entire evolution line and you just want to die lmao
Prize cards are really my only main complaint of a mechanic for the game. Like I wish I could just see them at the very least rather than needing to spend 2 solid minutes on my 1st search.
rich pine
prize cards and coin flips being baked into playable cards are my biggest complaints
terse temple
yeah prize cards are just an old system that i guess they dont wanna get rid of at this point
i think it makes sense that the pocket version just went with score points for knockouts instead
graceful summit
Ya, Prize cards existed before the Shield system from Duel Masters where the player receiving damage would get them in order for the winning player to not snowball. Its unfortunately a dated mechanic but it is what it is.
steep crow
Iirc its mainly staying because you'd have to change a lot of card text and with how searcher heavy pokemon is it would encourage more one ofs for counter play... granted that's already happening and people just eat the variance
terse temple
is there a community platform like db to play pokemon online?
pokemon live seems pretty shit ngl
graceful summit
Not really unfortunately, most people just grin and bear ot with Live
graceful summit
steep crow
You can kill the man
But not the idea (this is much worse though lmao)
My ass still playing festival lead because I do not give a fuck about dragapult I'm killing his ass with an apple
final musk
Hello I would like 1 Gholdengo with no drawpower
(Itâs ok Honch we still love you more than Zam)
rich pine
lobster too buttery steak too juicy head ass 
digital crow
Guys is garde dead?
steep crow
You could probably make a decent mega garde list but its not gonna be the same
Its fighting's and grass' turn to get the energy acceleration apparently (not like it hadn't been already but we move)
final musk
Psychic now is gearing towards âthrow as many Clefairy as possible at Pult and outspeed their setup.â
And the best accel engine that people have put up for this is Ogrepon + Grass/Eswitch and Crispin.
Budew just makes starting with Wondrous Patch that bad
âWhat about Zam?â
What about Zam?
steep crow
Me playing festival lead genuinely not giving a damn what my opponent does because their mega/ex is eating 300 damage a turn from 1 prizer
(They will bosses order my thwacky and I will eat an egg and die)
hot prawn
Zam
graceful summit
Steel having a Grass resist is finally paying off 
steep crow
Just got a box of destined rivals for msrp
graceful summit
Nice!
steep crow
Round 1 at locals just played festival lead vs a kid who was using just random stuff he pulled
I felt so bad
rich pine
Welcome back greninja break
final musk
Itâs as bricky as Greninja break thatâs for sure
steep crow
Dragapult and starmie are now just always looking for victims
"Play shaymin and pray I dont get my munkidori out or die dickhead"
final musk
Greninja megaâs big problem is that there is no Dragloak to make it worth it over Pult
steep crow
And its a 3 prizer
graceful summit
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Has 2 attacks, one with a conditional damage boost
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Second attack can automatically KO Pokemon
Close enough, welcome back Roaring Moon ex
final musk
Moon at least had Sada
Heck moon was at least splashed in lost box
Triple dark sucks to attach up cuz it kinda requires Janine or Toxtricity
2 for easy 220âs not bad if we ever get a prominent psychic deck again
graceful summit
Honestly, if Darks 2 Weaknesses werent so good rn, I think Toxtricity Dark Box would be viable
Either Teal Mask food or Lucario food
forest latch
Gorgeous card I found at the flea market today
cunning saffron
Why is pokemon TCG such a money machine rn? Has it always been this way?
And I mean old cards and especially packs being worth top dollar
cunning saffron
Is it a bubble
rich pine
Who knows
You donât see a bubble and even there are signs itâs impossible to know for sure
As an econometrician you should know
hot prawn
Because streamers, great competitive system, great foiling distribution
Wow, just like tournament cedh
cunning saffron
It's simple
Pokemon TCG is a fad, people collect and speculate future prices
People lose interest overtime, and once this begins to become recognized, either a massive selloff will happen or it'll gradually decline with bag holders
rich pine
Itâs not that simple
steep crow
Pokemon right now is in a hype train that I dont see ending any time soon, it will only end when the community collectively agrees that the cards are now no longer interesting/valuable
Functionally right now they're essentially thousands of different currencies without a standard. It's all held up by collective belief in the idea the cards are worth a certain amount of money, and the debates aren't about if the cards as a whole will crash, it's about if individual cards or product will
graceful summit
Also, the 30th anniversary coming up is going to be gas on the fire as it were
mental carbon
Yeah, any âbubbleâ that should have popped, missed its chance
I also think if the market ever settles, it will be on the ridiculous prices of modern stuff, vintage and mid era shouldnât be affected much
steep crow
I also think if the market ever settles, it will be on the ridiculous prices of ...
My bets on the ascended heroes stuff
There is 0 reason for the gengar and tree pikachu to be over a grand
mental carbon
My bets on the ascended heroes stuff
Forget ascended heroes, prismatic is literally being printed to the ground rn and itâs still selling out everywhere and doing not much to the prices of singles
Also, if I may say, I despise that set so much, the pull rates are so ass, and it just feels like scalpers buy it for the sake of FOMO
rich pine
Theoretically a bubble can last as long as forever, as long as the collective decides it
The fact that itâs only grown during a time where people have less disposable income is pretty impressive
steep crow
30 damage with 50 more for each bench pokemon with damage counters on it for 1 energy
Psychic so lillies clefairy works, super effective against lucario, risky ruins exists...
Yep, I'd buddy buddy poffin
cunning saffron
I'm shiny hunting mewtwo in yellow on og hardware
So far on 172 SRs
Got really close here
If the def were 145 it would have been shiny
hot prawn
Whoa
final musk
they made an entire archetype that can't be hit by phantom dive, noir, or munkidori
Despite that, the main wincon of the deck is still messed up by Munkidori removing damage from the board
steep crow
Went to a card show, got my grail
final musk
I want to get off Mr Bone's Phantom Dive
(Context: All of top 4 at LA regionals is Pult)
steep crow
Ban incoming plox
final musk
(50% of day 2 of LA regionals was Pult)
what's jarring is I'm not even sure a ban actually makes the format feel better
Pult is dominating but it's not really gatekeeping anything, it's just way more consistent and Phantom Dive is that good of a move
The rest of the meta?
RPS anarchy
newest Pult build in the meta?
The Pult Sparce build, but now with Crushing Hammers to force mirrors in favor off random
final musk
I don't know if pokemon's just stuck in a rock and a hard place rn.
Nothing's on Pult's level of good but we just came off a stale format of good decks
People are coping Mega Greninja but at best it looks like Pult with more explosive plays and no Recon Directive
And so far I don't feel that confident in much from Abyss Eye / Pitch Black
final musk
Bastiodon is likely a pre-release kit 
steep crow
God how in the hell do I make this usable
5 energy minimum and dies to mega lucario
And Cynthias garchomp damn tf did my boy do
final musk
Lightningâs only accel to charge that up would be either Magneton or Eels
graceful summit
God how in the hell do I make this usable
Hit and run style with Crustle/Ogrepon Rock?
final musk
Way too many pieces at that point
steep crow
Lightningâs only accel to charge that up would be either Magneton or Eels
How lucky you feeling?
final musk
The coin flips ainât the problem lol
If Audino gets KOd youâre working with 1 Zeraora the whole game
steep crow
just dont get bosses ordered
final musk
The audino in the active after it attacks:
final musk
Getting the Akira Egawa treatment means you get good art
delicate surge
i love him
steep crow
Beeeg headbutt
steep crow
Coribu boss orders
Immaculate taste
graceful summit
Just picked them up today. They look so clean
Side note: Amazing that the 1st League Cup I have ever actually topped was the one I went into without any prep lol
steep crow
Never change pokemon tcg quality control
X
YOU CANT DO THIS TO ME
MY SYLVEON PAGE ALREADY COST ME NORTH OF A GRAND WHAT DO YOU WANT
Card is actually gonna be like 2 grand im gonna be sick
graceful summit
Oh god rip
rich pine
Yes, we will be praying to god for good rips
digital crow
i love him
Holy shit new hungry clicker art
graceful summit
Getting rid of slabs at the official event is an objectively good thing, but this is what sticks in my mind:
At a recent card show, I spoke to an enterprising 11-year-old, Rob D., who had taken over an abandoned vendor booth to sell cards. He told me he'd been vending for the last year and only bought product from Pokemon vending machines at MSRP. When I asked if he played the Scarlet & Violet games, he said no. He also said he'd never watched the TV show.
"I just flip cards," he said. "I don't know much about Pokemon." He added that he learned about Pokemon investing from watching influencers open packs on TikTok and Instagram, calling Pokemon cards "the best investment right now."
I fing hate the modern social media landscape jfc
mental carbon
Itâs genuinely the worst
Iâve never wanted a market to crash as badly as I want PokĂ©mon to crash
final musk
Yeah the future rare art sucks so far.
The regular alts are really good yea
Memory Helix letting you copy benched attacks is gonna be interesting for game momentum, but a 2-prized that squishy kinda questionable
final musk
Also I donât Ike the psychic symbolâs smug aura
Itâs supposed to be mist around the energy but it just looks like it is judging you
