Pokemon TCG

[digital peak]

"anti-plasma"

[opaque pelican]

It would be even better if the ability even accounted for cards with the whole "Team Plasma" thing, from the Black/White series

Put down Lugia EX, if you dare

[final musk]

They revealed the new ace spec gold potion

Pokevital A
Heal 150 from one of your Pokémon.

This card in your discard pile cannot be put back into your hand or deck

So this can’t be looped, but Scoop up Cyclone can

Ok

[opaque pelican]

I mean

It's better than Gold Potion?

Question Mark?

[final musk]

It's only technically better than Gold Potion because of higher HP regend

in practice, this thing is gonna be less useful than when Gold Potion first came out because we already have Hero's Cape and Scoop up Cyclone

Secret Box is still probably the worst Ace Spec to come out, but this is definitely down at the bottom too

[final musk]

So our august set got confirmed and

Look I know it is Greninja but this is sick card Art

[opaque pelican]

Maaaan

That’s wonderful art

[final musk]

Our august set is Japan’s Night wanderer. Japan’s set is fully revealed in 2 weeks

The wildest thing about this set is that it will be legal for worlds 3 weeks after release in early august for western

Thankfully, so far what’s been revealed seems rather underwhelming

https://www.pokebeach.com/2024/05/shrouded-fable-special-pokemon-tcg-set-revealed-for-august

5 ex’s (we’ve already seen 4). The last one is Kingdra
1 Tera ex. We know it is Electric Revaroom
3 Ace Specs (we’ve already seen 2 and they both suck)
5 Supporters (we haven’t seen any yet)

[gilded heart]

[graceful summit]

Kingdra ex LFG

And the Greninja looks clean af

[final musk]

Second pre-release. Tatsugiri/Rillaboom

3-1, 9th place

Pulled alt art Torkoal and that’s it

[final musk]

Lost round 1 after getting no initial setup besides a Fesandipidi with no Luminous energy. Missed Attract Customers 4 times.
Round 2 won after setting up Fesandipiti and carefully saving a Dipplin play for late game to take 2 prizes
Round 3. Opponent had water Ogrepon ex so I quickly set up a Rillboom so I had something with staying power. Survived getting bench sniped for 2 prizes, and used Rillaboom to lock Ogrepon. Then proceeded to make a comeback between Rillaboom and Fesant
Round 4. Opponent was rather new to the game and misplayed with not setting up Okidogi with Luminous energy. even without the misplay, still played around any chance it had to knock out more than 1 pokemon.

Results: 2 Prize packs (1 overdue from a Challenge), 6 regular packs. Only pulls for Alt Art Torkoal, Magcargo ex, and a stamped holo drifloon

Props: Beat an ex oriented deck with basically the contents of the default deck
Slops: All my pulls that would have been helpful for pre-release were only helpful if I got the Infernape half. An extra Infernape, extra Chi-yu, Torkoal, and an extra Okidogi. Nope, could only use the Chi-yu.

[gilded heart]

Is pre-release format like, a serious thing that people actually try in? I may or may not go to one soon, just wondering what the vibe is like ig

[final musk]

It's poker from pulls. Chill vibe but anyone who went 4-0 got extra prizing, including first place getting a box

[gilded heart]

Ah I see

Thanks, that's good to know

[final musk]

PTCGL is borderline unplayable rn

high chance match sits in the flip coin deciding who goes first

Palafin/ex breaks the game entirely too

[opaque pelican]

Even more than usual?

[final musk]

yes

[opaque pelican]

Ahh

[final musk]

like actually unable to start a game

[delicate surge]

Wow the freebie Ogerpon deck feels kinda dogshit

[final musk]

Yeah ogrepon as an archetype kinda sucks

All 4 ogrepon are seeing play mostly in decks by themselves

[digital crow]

Wait for wave 2

[delicate surge]

As it turns out
Needing to play 4 different energy types in one deck means you have dogwater options

[final musk]

It's more that Grass Ogrepon is a dogshit engine for its own archetype

needing 3 energy for an engine that can only generate plays of 2 per turn on one pokemon is horrible

[digital crow]

Next set will print Ogerpon Energy that's triple rainbow while atached to a pon, can once per turn move itself to another pon, and can be attached via grasspon (dont ask how)

[final musk]

https://www.pokebeach.com/2024/05/bloodmoon-ursaluna-revealed-from-night-wanderer

We finally got a second card in this set that is pretty solid

[final musk]

https://www.pokebeach.com/2024/05/kingdra-ex-horsea-illustration-rare-dangerous-laser-ace-spec-and-more-revealed-from-night-wanderer

New batch

Gdi Kingdra is water

Oh god that ace spec sucks

Ace Spec Dangerous Laser. Burn and poison the opponent’s active

That could have straight up almost been a regular ass item lol

The regular item is really good tho, arguably a better rescue stretcher

Janine being acceleration without drawpower is concerning

Oh the updated Crobat

Yeah no a stage 2 as conditional drawpower sucks

[rich pine]

Oof kindra is ex

Would’ve been another nice attacker for glc

[final musk]

My god they mistranslated it

It’s burn and confuse

It’s even worse

[keen fox]

https://www.pokebeach.com/2024/05/japans-pokemon-center-tcg-accessories-for-night-wanderer-in-june

[opaque pelican]

Wait, they call the discard pile "trash"?

Wow, that's super rude

[keen fox]

They are also calling active battle field

[rich pine]

So I’ve been thinking

Greninja Pidgeot control with the intent of looping miss fortune sisters and eri with pal pad and using the main mons to either snipe or search for the pieces, unfair stamp as the ace spec

[graceful summit]

Trash is a pretty popular term in japanese card games iirc. It also helps that "Trash" can be both a location and a verb.

[opaque pelican]

Ahhh

[final musk]

TCPI is undegoing emergency maintenance right now

This is honestly the fastest they responded to a problem, and they originally weren't gonna respond to this til next Wednesday

It took 2 weeks for them to respond to issues from Paldea Evolved

oh wait it isn't a fix

it's a temporary workaround

[keen fox]

What’s the problem?

Also you remember the time they turned off hisu zora for like a month

[final musk]

When you start a game, it is possible to do something that locks the game in the coin flip menu. Thereby, nobody plays until someone quits.

[keen fox]

Oh that’s what happened

Yeah that happened to me once and I guess I just had the stronger will

[graceful summit]

Its so prettyyyyyy

[gilded heart]

It is very nice to look at

Though I prefer the Greninja

[wind veldt]

What would be a good pokemon starter deck of sorts?

[keen fox]

Zard is a starter pokemon

[rich pine]

Probably raging bolt ogrepon

Nothing too complicated to know with that deck to be decent at it

[gilded heart]

Probably

I was legit thinking Charizard, but Ogerbolt is also simple and does better

[rich pine]

Charizard in this climate might be a bit too difficult

Not because the deck itself is hard but running small basics with dragapult running around is hard

[wind veldt]

My little bro bought me a Dialga premium collector pack. Is it any good or playable?

[rich pine]

Dialga v and vmax should still be decent, that’s the one in the collector pack, right?

It’s a bit hard to see how good it is in the current standard format since it just started and no one’s really testing it but in the format that just ended it was rising to be a pretty good deck

[wind veldt]

Shoot yeah

You got a list or a place I could find a recent one?

[rich pine]

https://limitlesstcg.com/decks/list/11255

This is one that’s been used in many events, I don’t know if it got any support from the new set though and I’m not sure how good it is anymore because of the new set

[wind veldt]

Thanks, Hopefully it'll be good enough to play vs him

[keen fox]

Gard might be a good one

Miridon

Lugia is simple

Future hands is easy

[final musk]

Gardy is not a beginner's deck

Best bets for a deck that are easiest to pick up this format are Lugia, Miraidon, OgreBolt, and Future Hands.
Lugia's most difficult things are sequencing to get highest chance of Lugia VStar and knowing how to manage your energy
Miraidon is mostly jsut knowing what to bench when
Ogrebolt is sequencing
Future Hands sometimes isn't even sequencing

Gardevoir, by comparison to those, is much more difficult to pilot decently.

Blissey is also rather easy to pick up but it is not a good deck against anything other than Dragapult

[final musk]

Today's bug patch doesn't even fix anything in Twilight Masquerade

Palafin is gonna be fucking broken until days before NAIC

[opaque pelican]

This really makes me wonder who is exactly in charge of live

[final musk]

I would have to more than guess their dev team straight up doesn't get funded enough because TPCI doesn't get funded enough

[opaque pelican]

Likely

[keen fox]

Ehh I always thought gard was easy to run but idk

Blissy is really easy but it just doesn’t do much imo I feel like I’m getting nothing done in games with it

[final musk]

Got most of my petdeck, Ogre Regidrago, figured out for a starting point

It is definitely not a star in the meta, but the fact that it just shits on Dragapult, Charizard, Chien Pao, a decent amount of lost variants, and often Miraidon is pretty ok. Also a pretty solid deck into Pidgeot Control, but sucks against QuadLax.

Folds to Lugia and Ogre Bolt, and is basically relying on techs to carry its Gardy matchup.

It'll make day 2 at events, but won't do much special

Being a dragapult deck that beats almost every actual dragapult deck on the spot is pretty nice though.

[final musk]

new set up

The last ex in the set, Tera Electric Revaroom

M: 20. Add 120 if this pokemon moved from the bench to the active this turn.
MMM: 250. Discard this pokemon and all cards attached to it.

[opaque pelican]

Seems a little "eh" compared to the Revavroom ex in Paldea Evolved

Or was that Obsidian Flames

[final musk]

Copperajah
Ability: As long as this pokemon is in the active zone, your opponent cannot play a stadium from hand
Attack: MMMC 130, you can choose to add 100 damage. If you do, this pokemon cannot attack next turn.

[opaque pelican]

Elephant

Could be pretty alright in GLC

Copperajah is surprisingly just cracked in GLC

Dunno if this has the same impact though

[final musk]

Hourglass of Power
Tool
At the end of your turn, if the pokemon this card is attached to is in the active, you can take 1 basic energy from your discard pile and attach it to the pokemon.

[opaque pelican]

Huh, this is interesting

[final musk]

Night Academy
Once per turn, the turn player can add 1 card from their hand back to the top of the deck.

[opaque pelican]

...Y'know I was about to ask "why" but there are a few cases where this could be pretty helpful

[final musk]

That's quite literally all that was left in the set of any interest

[opaque pelican]

Which admittedly isnt a whole lot, but there are cases

[final musk]

pretty weak set overall

This is english's august set

Cards of note:

Dusclops: New turn 1 self-KO card in expanded.
Dusknoir: 1-for-1 trade with opponent's bench that cannot be blocked.
Cresselia: First pokemon in multiple generations that allows the user to flip over their prizes.
Blood Moon Ursaluna: Fighting Energy battery. Has a decent attack and huge HP for a 1-prize basic.
Genesect: Anti Ace Spec tech.
Kyurem: New option for Regidrago to sweep 3 pokemon at once. Also used as an anti-Lost Box card in general.
Fraxure: A good stage 1, but needs a better Haxorus.
Night Stretcher: Nerfed Rescue Stretcher
Binding Mochi: Generic tool for self-poison decks.
Hourglass of Power: Turn 1 generic energy acceleration, but requires the user be in the active.

Fezandipiti ex: New version of Oricorio GX. Best card in the set easily

I don't think any new decks come out of it that would be anywhere close to competitive, and the only deck that looks fun is the Revaroom ex.

There's also the new Janine card for dark energy acceleration but I am convinced that Okidogi is just worse Turbo Moon

https://www.pokebeach.com/2024/05/all-64-night-wanderer-main-set-cards-revealed Set getting translated on Pokebeach rn

[opaque pelican]

@delicate surge Janine Mentioned

[delicate surge]

Neat?

[opaque pelican]

-Oh, uh, sorry if it was uncalled for

Just thought you would like to know

[delicate surge]

It’s nice but I’m not a Janine super fan or anything

[opaque pelican]

Ahh, sorry, thought you mentioned her a lot sometime ago

[digital crow]

Ayo we got a new prize flipper?

Nice

[graceful summit]

The most unhinged packaging I've ever received a card in

[burnt grove]

:DDDDDD finally got all the cards for the future deck i wanted to play, time to try and play again, well minus catcher, but ill make due

last time i played i was doing vikavolt back like a year ago right before the SV sets

[gilded heart]

Good luck boys

[graceful summit]

Also my store gave me this now that Im the professor lol

[gilded heart]

Beeg

[final musk]

https://www.pokebeach.com/2024/06/stellar-miracle-pokemon-tcg-set-featuring-terapagos-ex-revealed

Those leaked 4 Tera cards are true

Some of the support for the turtle is open to all Tera Pokémon

If not for boufalant I would have still written off terapagos

oh god wait the buffalo buffs blood moon

[delicate surge]

Haha I get it
July 19th

Stellar is the 19th Tera type

Fan rotom seems kinda crazy

[keen fox]

What would you be hitting off that?

2 bidoof and a skwovet ?

[rich pine]

The hp for the bouff in this set is just enough too

So you can make your team tanky by 60 per hit which isn’t too bad

I think the noctowl is going to be crazy

Inteleon shady dealing but on a stage 1

[digital crow]

HOLY SHIT SKY FIELD 2 LET'S FUCKING GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

[sage acorn]

i leave for like 3 sets what the fuck is this???

AY FUCKING YO

is this some weird eternatus vmax deck or something?

[final musk]

essentially

Quite frankly if Bouffalant didn't exist this would have been rather lackluster

[opaque pelican]

There may be more stuff for these mons

[sage acorn]

i think i know what im building when this set comes to TCG

[digital crow]

Yes no this is def getting me back into standard

Double colorless 240 with no downsides sign me in

[rich pine]

i'm more excited for the leaked lapras working with the ace tool

[sage acorn]

single colorless with the new ace spec

[wind veldt]

Fo you draw for turn T0 in Pokémon?

do*

[rich pine]

Yep

[opaque pelican]

Well that’s super unfortunate

[sage acorn]

welp

[final musk]

Drago got top 16 at NAIC

Looked over the list, I was on 59 of the 60 already lol

More or less confirmed that the skeleton from play limitless with cleffa is a proven good starting point

[graceful summit]

Im guessing Roaring Moon will see an uptick in play after all this

Also side note, are the IRs for the Loyal 3 bot in Twilight Masq or is TCG Player not listing them for some reason?

[mental carbon]

So I heard we’re getting a new rocket set

[gilded heart]

They're not in Twilight Masquerade. They got cut and are in Shrouded Fable instead, I believe

[final musk]

If anything upticks, it probably ends up being Miraidon

Iron Hands in general is gonna be what upticks. Ancient box works, but unfair stamp hits both Moonsparce and Ancient Box hard

Raging Bolt did underwhelming and Dragapult really underperformed, with Tord being the only thing close to a notable result

Even Future Turbo (Hands + Thorns) did better than Dragapult did

[rich pine]

Bolt and pult really didn’t hit the mark, I didn’t watch all of it but for some reason there was a graphic showing zard on top? That’s not accurate, right?

[gilded heart]

Tord was only playing a 2-1-1 Dragapult line iirc

With 2-1-1 Zard and Pidgeot

[rich pine]

Interesting, I should take a look at his list because I remember thinking zard pult was going to be decent or at least better than most people thought

[hot prawn]

Unfair stamp

[gilded heart]

Unfair Stamp is fine

Just draw a Supporter

[final musk]

Looking over the W/L rate of popular decks at NAIC, Chien Pao is definitely in a position to take off again

Charizard's probably also gonna continue to have a resurgence with how poor of results Dragapult had

[final musk]

Dragzard, at least in Japan, had way more rounded results than any other build of Dragapult. No real bad matchups, but a lot more that were closer to 50/50

Tord/Pramawat's direction with the deck incorporating the Pidgeot line into the mix is mostly new. Japan was mostly on playing higher counts of Dragapult and Charizard.

NAIC proved at the least that LZ Dragapult was a bad deck, and that Dragzard is probably more favorable to play than PidgPult without Charizard.

[gilded heart]

Eh, I think it's a bit early to conclude that Dragzard is better than PidgPult, especially considering that PidgPult was the highest placing Dragapult build (22nd place - Chaz Finchum).
I also don't think LZ Dragapult is necessarily bad, but more that it doesn't have the tools that LZ Turbo has to play through Flutter Mane and/or Klefki, due to lack of space, so those make the deck much slower. Also, Tord is considered to have played a Zard-centric build, I was wrong earlier sorry, he was on a 3-1-2 Zard line, with 2-2 Pidgeot and 2-1-1 Pult

[final musk]

hold on lemme pull up LZ Pult's stats

https://twitter.com/poke_hive/status/1800508619156513024/photo/1

PokeHiveTCG (@poke_hive) on X

NAIC, Dragapult LZ Box
Representation: 3.5% (7th)

120th Place - Daniel Sopko
125th Place - Andrea Zorat
201st Place - Zachary Herson

Twitter · Jun 11, 2024, 12:41 PM

This was how LZ Plut did in terms of winrate for anyone who made day 2

[gilded heart]

Yeah I talked to Sopko in the TrickyGym server, his list is pretty neat

I'm aware it didn't even get top 64

[final musk]

losing on Gardy, LZ Box, and Lugia in particular is not a good look

[gilded heart]

Hm true

I guess it has more bad match ups than I thought

I knew Garde was a bad match up, Lugia is a bit surprising, but ig Iron Hands is tough

Lost Zone Box is just insanely good

So that doesn't surprise me

Hm

Yeah fair I guess in light of that

LZ Dragapult isn't really worth playing

My preferred Dragapult build tbh is just straight Dragapult without Pidgeot

I use PokeStop and play 2 Lance to find Drakloak and the Pult ideally on turn 3

Have yet to miss a Rare Candy turn 3 as well :p

[keen fox]

No blissy day two finishes

I thought it was fun but not quite good

I guess I was just proven right

[final musk]

Its one good matchup was underrepresented and underperformed

[final musk]

Like this was mostly predictable

[keen fox]

It’s dragapult MU is overrated it’s not even that good because the deck can struggle so hard to even do anything

[covert shoal]

I was given this today

[digital peak]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GP7n96zaIAA3c_a?format=jpg&name=900x900

what are you ptcg players doing?

[runic kiln]

Sorry, misclicked

[graceful summit]

Mail day

[gilded heart]

That Tera Zard ex goes hard

[graceful summit]

Ya its pretty af

[final musk]

It's reveal night for Stellar Miracle JP but I got an early gym session tomorrow, so I'll look at the cards before I go around 4:30 AM instead of midnight tonight

[final musk]

https://www.pokebeach.com/2024/07/all-102-stellar-miracle-main-set-cards-revealed

Yeah so like most of what was revealed last night sucked anyways

[final musk]

Best cards in set:
Joltik: Setting up 4 energy in 1 attack is huge going second. Galvantula is risky af, but Joltik sounds really, really good as an option in Miraidon. Raging Bolt probably doesn't need it.

Togedemaru: Guaranteed late game paralysis is really good as a niche.

Noctowl: Shady Dealings for tera decks.

Rotom: Instant setup for Colorless evolving decks. Being 70 makes it poffin searchable too.

Bouffalant: -60 damage is a huge buff in any regard.

Glass Trumpet: Energy Acceleration limited only by lack of Tera Normal pokemon. Wouldn't be surprised if we eventually see a Tera Eevee family deck use this.

Elemental berries: -60 damage is a huge buff in any regard. We only have Fire and Psychic to start, but we'll for certain get the rest.

Crispin: If you don't need to use your supporter to draw, this is the most powerful supporter in the game generically next to Boss.

Briar: Insane buff for Charizard ex.

Great Tree: Surely some stage 2 deck will gain a massive benefit from Rare Candy from deck, even if it requires playing the stage 1.

Area Zero Underdepths: It's archetypal Sky Field.

There are definitely new decks from the set too but I would not be sold on any in particular, even Terapagos. I think Terapgaos is pretty ass unless you can get away with Terapagos getting 2-shot from every attack, otherwise more aggressive 2-prize basics seem better as missing that first attack turn1 going second is huge. Galvantula would be interesting as a dedicated deck if not for Joltik being 30 HP. Slowking is definitely the fan favorite casual deck coming from the set. Medicham ex is also a card at least worth experimenting with.

I think if any new kind of deck shows up to the table, it's gonna be some wacky contraption with Area Zero... that isn't Terapagos.

[mental carbon]

Who’s my vintage ptcg expert in the chat, I have a question

[graceful summit]

Expert is a strong word, but I may be able to help tomorrow morning when Im up.

[mental carbon]

I just had a simple question. Somebody was offering me a reverse holo dark octillery, and holo piloswine from team rocket returns for $35, both seem NM+, seems to be around market price, and both don’t seem to have many listings

[thin bison]

can someone tell me if these are legit? i’m looking online for this series and can’t find anything

[digital crow]

These are fakes

[rich pine]

They don’t look real, I don’t remember tag cosplay being a thing

Yeah they’re fake

[digital crow]

Real cards have yellow borders, for the record

Except world championship box cards, which have silver borders and are not legal for play

[thin bison]

thank you!

[thin bison]

thank you

[graceful summit]

Scarlet Violet onwards use Silver Borders like Japan

[mental carbon]

I was blessed today

[graceful summit]

Pog

I love the Sinnoh VStar quartet. It looks so good

[hot prawn]

Good stuff mr thugs

[final musk]

https://www.pokebeach.com/2024/07/battle-partners-set-to-release-in-japan-in-january-return-of-owners-pokemon

Owner's Pokemon

: D

Tag Team Owner's Pokemon

D :

They better not fuck this up, Gen 9 was off to a pretty good start

[mental carbon]

You literally cannot fuck this up

This set screams “take my money”

[final musk]

I meant in that Tag Teams ruined the game

Let's not repeat that

[sage acorn]

when does English get Stellar Miracle

[final musk]

September 13

[graceful summit]

Honestly, I doubt they'll repeat the mistake of TTGXs

[graceful summit]

https://youtu.be/gSezLLPtXw4?si=CgfAedBCZDe7PHMg

New Reverse Holo pog

[final musk]

Ooof they gave only a day’s notice for registration of Baltimore regionals

[pure moon]

@neat cove

what's that on the left

[final musk]

https://www.pokebeach.com/2024/08/paradise-dragona-tcg-set-officially-revealed-featuring-latias-ex-tera-alolan-exeggutor-ex-and-dragon-pokemon

Didn't even see this happen damn

lmfao what even is Alolan Exeggutor's second attack

We would need a much more specific meta for Drago to copy Exeggutor

Drago would not go for Tropical Fever alone on account that it doesn't even want to go for Energy Hurricane from Dragonite, which is better

Swinging Sphene being basics only really limits practicality in what matchups it is actually useful against

If anything all Exeggutor does is replace, stupidly enough, Garchomp V

[pure moon]

lolol

[final musk]

Thinking it through, the one big thing it has going for it is that it shits on the mirror

Benched lone Drago V ain’t safe and guaranteed 2 prize KO that plays around Goodra without a gust effect

[neat cove]

Sorry wra, didn't saw. Was busy

[pure moon]

no prob, i already got the TL lol

[neat cove]

[final musk]

Well, pokebeach got the translation wrong… again

Exeggutor has to KO active on heads, making it significantly worse

[delicate surge]

That passimian would be neat if ancient box didn’t do that but better

[graceful summit]

I got the Greninja and Kingdra boxes. Opened 2 Fezindipidity ex (One FA, one reg), FA Pecharunt ex, FA Colress, and Houndoom IR.

[final musk]

Worlds TCG stream underway

https://www.twitch.tv/pokemontcg

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rgE9nxOKots

Metagame day 1

(With Blocklax notable 7th at 5%)

So far round 1 Drago Sweep
Round 2 Drago Sweep
Round 3 Thorns vs Zard. Iron Thorns player (Owyn Kammerman) just got a penalty for drawing the wrong number of cards for Unfair Stamp.

The Pokemon TCG Pocket demo at worlds... doesn't have gameplay

[digital peak]

https://x.com/PrimeTimeWiz/status/1824547785758367917

Juancho | PrimeTimeWizardTV (@PrimeTimeWiz) on X

I'm extremely excited for Pokemon Pocket!! A new avenue to play the Pokemon TCG? Yes please and the art on these cards are amazing!

Twitter · Aug 16, 2024, 8:44 PM

Pack opening vod from the Pocket Demo

I like the art on the Pigeot

[little falcon]

Wait it won’t just be a one for one copy of the cards?

[digital peak]

Nah there are some exclusives

Pocket has their own exclusive packs (and cards)

https://www.pokebeach.com/news/2024/08/Articuno-ex-Pocket-scaled.jpg

Like this GORGEOUS Articuno

[little falcon]

Wow that’s cool. I thought it would just copy the current card game.

[digital peak]

Nah seems to be like a lower power curve version, a pocket sized version of the tcg if you will for quick matches on your phone

https://www.pokebeach.com/news/2024/08/Primeape-Pocket-scaled.jpg

We even have Jungle Primeape here

We can even flip packs? Honestly I may get into this version of the TCG because this is so cool

[graceful summit]

https://www.pokebeach.com/2024/08/tera-flygon-ex-archaludon-ex-and-more-from-paradise-dragona-revealed-at-worlds

[graceful summit]

How the actual hell did Iron Thorns manage to make finals lmao

[mental carbon]

Now that’s a sexy Alolan exeggutor

[little falcon]

Win*

[final musk]

it's... complicated

tldr; it lost in top 8, his opponent in top 8 made an inappropriate victory gesture, and got dealt a match loss.

[graceful summit]

What was the gesture?

[final musk]

a "dice rolling" gesture

you could probably guess what it looked like

[digital peak]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MzbbpbMbS8Q

[graceful summit]

Found the clip

Ya, thats not bad at all imo

[final musk]

So Ian Robb got dealt a match loss in top 8 from that

[graceful summit]

https://m.twitch.tv/clip/AbnegateFunSnoodBabyRage-KCY3ENdE2ijJFtXT?tt_content=clip&tt_medium=mobile_web_share

[little falcon]

You’re in kid land no matter what

[final musk]

Cifeuntes got the win, and them steamrolled Jesse Parker

[graceful summit]

Like that lools like a general "pump it up" thing not anything super explicit

[digital peak]

LOVE IT

Look at the bottom middle card

[little falcon]

lol it’s literally a jacking off motion

[final musk]

At the end of the day, that resulted in a LOT of people getting upset over worlds top cut

[little falcon]

Even if he didn’t intend it to be that

[graceful summit]

I mean I just learnt about it and now I'm upset too lol

[final musk]

Regardless of the outcome, Cifuentes simply dealt with the hand he had and this is all on the staff's handling of the situation and Ian for even doing that.

[rich pine]

i mean, at the end of the day it goes against policy and they have a right to remove him for that purpose

like even the most rowdy or loved soccer players get banned for similar things

[final musk]

The important thing to take note of is that this format does have some severe flaws showcased here

It's not the worst format ever, but it is extremely aggressive and Iron Thorns is the best answer to slowing it down.
But, there are several decks, Iron Thorns especially, that are determining some of the outcomes off flip-coin cards

The flip coins are not the inherent problem, but a symptom of how the format is going.
The last time flip coins were THIS impactful was ADP format

[rich pine]

oh yep, thorns, miraidon, and regidrago being top decks is concerning since they're all so high roll decks

take me back to zard, pult, garde format, at least consistency was valued then

[final musk]

Drago puts a big visegrip on decks that can ramp in power, particularly Gardy, Zard, and especially Lost Zone
As a result, the best decks to answer drago offensively are those that play even more aggressively going second, such as Miraidon, Raging Bolt, and Roaring Moon
The best answer to deal with both of those is Iron Thorns, which slows almost every matchup to a standstill

The only deck that can effectively play through both go-second aggro decks and Iron Thorns rn is Ancient Box

[digital peak]

https://www.pokebeach.com/news/2024/08/Eevee-Pocket.png

https://www.pokebeach.com/news/2024/08/Mewtwo-ex-Pocket.jpg

[rich pine]

and miraidon is still miraidon, able to high roll good go-second attacks while playing thorns itself

[digital peak]

The mewtwo is an immersive card

[final musk]

and Iron Hands, which forms another gatekeeper to slower starting decks

This will also likely get more volatile once we get to Stellar Crown

In that pack we get one of the strongest item searchers ever
The resurgence of Palkia
And a card that lets Tera pokemon take extra prizes

We will likely see this whole thing slow back down if there is ever a ramp deck printed that can deal with Drago extremely effectively, or rotation once Regidrago goes

As much as I like playing Drago, its current toolbox is a big gatekeeper right now

Zard is also a really weird case because it is supposed to function like a ramp deck, but now has all the tools to function like an aggro deck

[graceful summit]

https://x.com/Ian__Robb/status/1825239562987467077

TSS Ian Robb (@Ian__Robb) on X

@mikefouchet I’m cheering for him today. After meeting him and his dad I could tell how much making cut at worlds meant. He’s a deserving champion.

Twitter · Aug 18, 2024, 6:33 PM

At least he's also being a good sport about it in the end

[rich pine]

yeah i sort of like zard rn but i can see why people dont want to play it with all of these other options

[final musk]

Zard's main problem rn is a bad Drago matchup

[rich pine]

bad drago matchup and can't deal with thorns very well if not already set up

[final musk]

We got essentially 3 factions of decks

Go-first aggro
Go-second aggro
Control
... and Ancient Box

[rich pine]

thunder control never took off, right?

[final musk]

Luxray? Never did much

[rich pine]

i know block lax got a resurgence and bird control kind of died

nah i mean miraidon thorns control, maybe sometimes running lux time to time

[final musk]

Miraidon Thorns as a control deck was never a thing

At most you'll see the typical aggro Miraidon tech a thorns

[rich pine]

huh i thought there were a couple builds using the search ability, thorns, and supporters to play control

[final musk]

The problem with Miraidon Thorns as a control deck is you instantly died to any gusting effect

[rich pine]

but it makes sense to just not play searchers and instead play max thorns lol

i'm pretty happy about the performance of thorns because of how it was thought of to be a meme deck for a while

[final musk]

it needed ramp decks out of the way to succeeed

Gardy was a very questionable matchup for it because Gardy already teched stuff that work against it.
And it was HORRIBLE against Lost Box

[rich pine]

yep, the rise of one meme deck (drago which i know just got support so it's not a meme anymore) to get another to rise, tbh it's pretty fun rn

but i know i won't be saying this a couple more weeks in

speaking of memes, the cornerstone ogerpon deck didn't really take off, did it?

[final musk]

Cornerstone at this point is mostly just a tech in control

As a centralized deck, it never worked

Raging Bolt is approaching the point of dropping it in favor of consistency

[rich pine]

makes sense, i remember they were debating that or shocks for a while

[final musk]

The potential savior of the format, despite how bricky it is

might be Regis

who are getting a new build in the next set

[little falcon]

does he still get prize money?

[final musk]

he gets the prize money for top 8 yes

[little falcon]

thats good at least

[final musk]

they ruled it a match loss instead of a DQ

[sage acorn]

so welcome back

wait holy shit they're fucking cooking

[hot prawn]

How playable is new flygon?

[final musk]

Meh

You can build a deck that works, but probably not comp

[final musk]

https://x.com/Frodo_Htx/status/1825575067092160657

Sway Sanchez (@Frodo_Htx) on X

Andrew Mahone confirms that Ian Robb admitted it was not a “dice roll” gesture. Via the tricky gym stream. Good on him for admitting he made a mistake.

Twitter · Aug 19, 2024, 4:46 PM

[little falcon]

I mean it was obvious. People were hella reaching but good on him for not trying to hide anything

[graceful summit]

Well, egg on my face rip

[graceful summit]

https://youtu.be/sOD37Il8FmU?si=RAI2Lxw-tysmazO_

They were wild for uploading it though ☠️

[rich pine]

Huh they edited it out

[little falcon]

I’d be surprised if they didn’t lol

[hot prawn]

[digital peak]

https://x.com/TheKuribandits/status/1826007117461074286

Jax 🥥🌴🏈 (@TheKuribandits) on X

Twitter · Aug 20, 2024, 9:23 PM

[final musk]

The thing people mainly despise about Thorns is that even though there is a skill drain Duel Links skill involved, imagine if there was also a Runick card that read: Flip a coin, if heads, revert the opponent's board to the previous turn's state. Like Anime Neo Tachyon their board.

Crushing Hammer usually isn't played by top decks because the reward of knocking out 1 energy is minimal and/or has far too few of matchups for it to matter.

Crushing Hammer was played against ADP because knocking out 1 energy usually meant you set the ADP player back a whole turn, and ADP was the deck to look out for in that meta from both being a massive gatekeeper and just cheesing games with Gust-Gust-Game.

Crushing Hammer is now played in Iron Thorns because knocking out 1 energy against almost any deck is a major setback when the opponent doesn't have access to their energy engine in the first place.

The other card that affects this that doesn't do as good a job is Pokemon Catcher, the other flip coin card

[hot prawn]

Sigh back in my day we had garbotoxin

Word me @gilded heart

[gilded heart]

Word

[hot prawn]

Also apparently ancient box does well vs quad thorns?

[gilded heart]

Though I wasn't around for that :p

[hot prawn]

since you dont really care about abilities and can just punch hard regardless

[gilded heart]

Yep

Any single prize deck should do well against it

[hot prawn]

there are others?

(I jest)

[gilded heart]

:p

[graceful summit]

The best attack name in the TCG has returned

[digital crow]

Lets goooooo

[hot prawn]

Pog

[digital peak]

balloon friend

[sage acorn]

huge

[neat cove]

What is this!?
@fiery salmon @gilded heart

[gilded heart]

Uh what's the translation?

I actually don't know what it does :p

[neat cove]

Energy Search PRO
Item ACE SPEC Trainer Card
(You may only have 1 ACE SPEC card in your Deck.)
(You may use any number of Item cards per turn.)

You may search your Deck for any number of Basic Energy cards with different colors, show them to your opponent, add them to your hand, then shuffle your Deck.

Sorry if the specific verbose is off

[gilded heart]

Hm that's interesting... There's a couple of strategies that would probably love this card, mainly the 'Rain Dance' strats, which accelerate a lot of Energy at once, but I don't think it'd slot into most other decks that well

[digital crow]

so wait

this is theoretically a +7, +8 in expanded

i feel like this has to break SOMETHING

very interesting card

[opaque pelican]

Should I drop Yu-Gi-Oh in favor of Pokémon?

[rich pine]

Why not both?

Also top deck right now is either skill drain turbo or baby punter turbo or casino so not exactly the best time to get in

[little falcon]

Pokémon is generally cheap enough for both

[sage acorn]

dont see why not, theres a tier 1 Zard ex deck about to be printed for 30$ thats basically the whole deck

[rich pine]

Gonna be solid but it’s coming in 3 months if you’re willing to wait

[sage acorn]

ahh damn

i mean i guess at least you can buy a meta deck for the price of a playset of Bonfire

[final musk]

You can buy 2-3 decks if it isn’t Regidrago or Raging Bolt

[sage acorn]

whats the expensive card in raging bolt?

[final musk]

Ogrepon, Earthen Vessel and Prime Catcher

[rich pine]

you can get prime catcher in the zard precon

[final musk]

Yup

Ik

[rich pine]

you can make skill drain turbo lol

[final musk]

Talking about price rn

[rich pine]

just letting them know in case that changes what they make

[final musk]

Yeah Zard rn is barely over the price of an Ultra playset of bonfire

Prime catcher getting reprint will be a 20 dollar drop on a bunch of decks

Pidgeots are the other major reprint in the Zard deck

Zard ex (the card) is pretty cheap rn already

[sage acorn]

cant wait to build terapagos ex

[glad lance]

is it legal to use clear sleeves for pokemon tcg?

[torn wyvern]

Not as your only sleeve no

[final musk]

Paradise Dragona getting fully revealed tonight. I’m not doing late night translations for it because the set has so far been mostly garbage

Only cards I think so far have worth in the set are the 1-prize Gholdengo for Gholdengo decks, Latias ex, Dusk Ball, Counter Gain, Surfer, and maybe Disruptive Letter or Archalufon ex.

Flygon ex can also be made a deck but we’ve seen what it does 3 times already this gen

I originally thought exeggutor was pretty good for drago but that’s because pokebeach mistranslated it

[final musk]

Well I stayed up anyways as I was doing other stuff

Yeah this set is bad

The last dragon pokemon is Palkia

40x number of basic energy attached to Palkia

They want you to play this with Exeggutor ex. This isn't reliable a strategy

The last ex in the set is Tera Cyclizar

3C: 130 + 30 to an opponent's benched pokemon
GRP: 180 + Draw 5

The last trainer to be revealed is Passho Berry

Same as Occa and Payapa from Stellar Crown

-60 if hit by a water attack, then discard the tool

Pretty much every other reveal from the set remaining was either an idea used in a previous set or straight up bulk

If Tera cyclizar had 0 retreat, I could've seen an argument to use it over Terapagos in some decks, but I can't say it does much the way it is

[hidden ocean]

if i wanna play pokemon tcg at my ots is this a good way to play? i know how to play but ive never like REALLY played

[graceful summit]

Ya, its def a pretty casual enviroment thatll be good for learning

[hidden ocean]

alright thanks!!

[burnt grove]

foinf blind into stellar crown today, i dont even really know the meta ,but i know my deck hasnt changed much so here we go

[graceful summit]

Finally finished the future Paradox section of the binder pog

Hate how like non-existent the Temporal Forces SIRs are here in Canada

[digital peak]

I hope we get some shellos/gastrodon in early pocketCG

[hot prawn]

Mail day

[torn wyvern]

box player

🫵

[hot prawn]

Best deck kid

[graceful summit]

Yo nice

Also, its amazing to me that Earth Vessels are so expensive rn (for an Uncommon)

I wanted to finish my playset of Reverse foils but they're like $12+ each now

[hot prawn]

I got juiced 😭

But aye!

[graceful summit]

Oof

Super happy I opened a box of Paradox Rift a while back lol. Paradox Rift and especially Temporal Forces have a great line up of Uncommons.

[hot prawn]

I'm excited to roaring moon ppl

[graceful summit]

Roaring Moon is so fun

I managed to throw game, then steal game back by decking myself out and hitting 260 on a Gholdengo with Baby Moon

I need to update my deck though, I pulled a Pecharunt ex and 3 Fezandipity ex (1 Reg Art, 2 FA) lol. Need to look up the exact ratios

Currently my list is an older baby Moon turbo build with Dudunsparce as the main draw engine

[mental carbon]

Based Roaring Moon enjoyer

[mental carbon]

https://x.com/missourimtg/status/1836094270433788346?s=46&t=DdUsqNPs-c3IFDRYOhiq8A

Jeremy ✈️ (@MissouriMTG) on X

Saddest part of the hobby is telling parents their kids binders are all fake

Twitter · Sep 17, 2024, 5:26 PM

[delicate surge]

sometimes its better not to

[graceful summit]

Nah, I always do. You never want a kid to get scammed with fake cards

Also I'm the professor so its kinda my job lol

[delicate surge]

Fair

[graceful summit]

I always just tell them to leave em home, but even when they come back they like never do

Had one kid aegue that he had a real card when I showed him a copy of the real Full Art texture and all, but we let it slide cause he was like 5 lmao

[hot prawn]

oh that's heartbreaking

[graceful summit]

Financial decisions were made

[torn wyvern]

they're so good

[little falcon]

Rich

[graceful summit]

They do infact look pretty af

[mental carbon]

Fuck, I want raging bolt so bad

[graceful summit]

It looks so goddamn good

Hope it wont take forever to find a Walking Wake to finish the page

[mental carbon]

I’m so sad because I saw multiple raging bolts go for 60-70 on whatnot

But I didn’t have the new job I currently have at the time

Oh wait raging bolt crashed

Let’s gooo

[digital peak]

https://x.com/PokemonTCGP/status/1836936146204438676

Pokémon TCG Pocket (@PokemonTCGP) on X

Many new social posts are circulating around #PokemonTCGPocket today, and we've been watching the conversations.👀

It looks like today is a good day to share some new information with all of you!

Here you go! 💁‍♂️

Twitter · Sep 20, 2024, 1:11 AM

New Pocket info

https://www.pokebeach.com/2024/09/pokemon-tcg-pocket-new-cards-crown-rares-gameplay-mechanics-and-soft-launch-date

more can be seen here including how many copies for a playset (2)

[little falcon]

Huh interesting they really did condense the game

[hot prawn]

@graceful summit how do you deal with dragapult?

Oh also @gilded heart

It's way too fast and with earthen vessel + tera crystal for one energy theyre just straight up hitting for 200 + 60, also picking up double kos. At least charizard has the respect to only deal 180 and not 260

[gilded heart]

Iirc I used to tech Devolution a decent amount

[hot prawn]

hm what stops them from re-evolving again? Oh if theyre via candy you mean

or to buy time if its from dreepy to drakloak

[gilded heart]

Nah you just do damage first, then Devo after

So it's a guaranteed two hit

[hot prawn]

Ah Still, it's really tough

[gilded heart]

Yeah unfortunately

I think I also liked having one heavy hitter in my lists because of it

So you could maybe tech one copy of Roaring Moon ex

As a finisher

[graceful summit]

Straight up, I've yet to face any pult atm

[graceful summit]

And I dont play TCG live so Ive uet to run into it there either

[digital peak]

To make a comparison to duel links, even duel links allowed 3 copies of a card in a 20 card format. Where as Pocket TCG is straight up cutting in half playsets to 2 copies from the original being 4.

Also item cards not clogging up packs is very interesting

[final musk]

Item cards never clogged up packs to begin with in Pokémon

It’s always been bulk Pokémon that did that

[graceful summit]

Ya, usually any decent item would be worth 1$+ because they would be so hard to pull in a whole set.

Shoutout Earthen Vessel, Buddy Buddy Poffin

[final musk]

Buddy-Buddy's what typically happens yeah

Earthen Vessel is 5 bucks rn

[graceful summit]

Ya, and like 10 for the reverse

But also I even struggled to get my 3 Playsets of Arven and even Super Rod was a pain for me to find tbh

[hot prawn]

Items are goated

I actually want to open them more than meme mons yeh

[digital crow]

https://youtu.be/TEekrb6C2vc

[delicate surge]

Amphitheater seems kinda decent

[final musk]

Scramble Switch is finally back

https://www.pokebeach.com/2024/10/scovillain-ex-lake-guardians-clemont-and-more-illustration-rares-revealed-from-supercharged-breaker

Don’t gaf about the Pikachu and Milotic Alt Arts, I got my favorite Ace Spec back

[delicate surge]

that new scovillain EX seems pretty neat

[digital peak]

typo

[hot prawn]

They're buffing cards now

[graceful summit]

https://www.pokebeach.com/2024/10/chien-pao-gastrodon-cofagrigus-maushold-from-supercharged-breaker

Lot of playables

Also Akira Egawa art

[digital peak]

No pinging me?

https://www.pokebeach.com/news/2024/10/Shellos-Supercharged-Breaker.jpg

https://www.pokebeach.com/news/2024/10/Gastrodon-Supercharged-Breaker.jpg

[hot prawn]

Hydreigon woooooo

[final musk]

Reveals going up for supercharged breaker

Definitely want a translation on this one. Google translate has that first attack as: Look and your opponent's hand and discard all Tools and Items from it... which sounds insanely good for item discard.

Annihilape
F: 130 + Confuse this pokemon
FC: Knock out both active pokemon

Keckleon
Ability: If this pokemon would take damage from a move, flip a coin. If Heads, no damage taken
CC: Deal 30 damage to one of your opponent's pokemon

Mystery Note
Item
Look at the top 3 cards of your deck. Rearrange them, or shuffle them to the bottom of your deck.

There was also a Durant ex but it's shit

that's it. Edit: Oh, and metal reduction berry

Stellar Surge as a whole, without a doubt, is the weakest core set of SV so far

Not surprising considering SwSh's was also a Pikachu set, Vivid Voltage

[final musk]

Cards that I think will see competitive play at some point:

• Rotom from Supercharged Breaker

• Chien Pao from Supercharged Breaker

• Ace Spec Miracle Intercom from Supercharged Breaker

• Ace Spec Scramble Switch from Supercharged Breaker

• Maybe Gastrodon from Supercharged Breaker

• Ceruledge ex from the ex Starter Decks

• Sylveon ex from the ex Starter Decks

• Eevee from the ex Starter Decks

• Tera Ball from the ex Starter Decks

• Ace Spec Perfect Mixer from the ex Starer Decks

• Ace Spec Precious Carrier from the ex Starter Decks

• Latias ex from Paradise Dragona

• Archaludon ex from Paradise Dragona

• Dusk Ball from Paradise Dragona

• Counter Gain from Paradise Dragona

• Surfer from Paradise Dragona

• Ace Spec Rich Energy from Paradise Dragona

• The Type resistance Berries from SV7, SV8, and eventually SV9

This is like 15 cards out of nearly 200 and most of them are either niche or are not even good yet

I honestly do not think Pikachu ex can do much in comp. Its best home is in Lost Box and that deck is dead. Pikachu/Magneton is a horrible deck rn

https://www.pokebeach.com/2024/10/all-106-supercharged-breaker-main-set-cards-revealed

[hot prawn]

What about hydrei? It is essentially worse pult but

[final musk]

that's the main problem yeah

The big thing about Dragapult rn is that Dusknoir and Phantom Dive let you take very custom KOs. Hydreigon is shaving off the flexibility for... mill 3

With how fast the format is, it would be a real pain charging up the second attack

On the other hand, Hydreigon got the sickest art in the set

[limpid cliff]

Alright, got a question

Would there happen to be any neat suggestions for a fun Fighting-type deck?

[pearl badger]

I caught Daiaga with a Ultra Ball so I still have my master ball

[rich pine]

catch it with a timer ball, go again

[limpid cliff]

Nice one! But, if you want to share your catches we got a channel in #1020096234968596531 . This here is the TCG, for the TCG!

[delicate surge]

https://x.com/lavenrite/status/1845909379914068418?s=61&t=cBZvUrdAQBg9SBrQp2_2KA

Lavenrite | Josh P (@lavenrite) on X

Twitter · Oct 14, 2024, 7:27 PM

[pearl badger]

Why not have it on the same thing

[rich pine]

Because they’re very different games just with the same characters

[limpid cliff]

Y'know Klawf does sound tempting

[pearl badger]

That’s just extra work why not just have a General Pokemon channel

[delicate surge]

It’s like 10 seconds of extra work

[rich pine]

You would’ve actually saved time reposting it there then coming back and writing that

[final musk]

Yeah even Blaziken's kinda lacking

1 Attach to anything will hopefully be good eventually, but for now there's just nothing that would want to put in a stage 2 for that

[limpid cliff]

And I was really hopeful they'd just remake the Blaziken ex from the previous ex series, too

[digital peak]

https://www.pokebeach.com/news/2024/10/modal-deck-3-card-1.png

whale friend

[limpid cliff]

The art is still very much on point for ex

[digital peak]

clodsire ex to

https://www.pokebeach.com/news/2024/10/modal-deck-9-card-2.png

[steep crow]

Some strange choices here

Zacian and... Alcreme?

Reshiram and... Amoongus?

Some of these aren't too bad though, mainly just decent attackers

Tapu Koko, lucario, and mimikyu seem okay

Xernius isn't bad either

[final musk]

Surging sparks has been a prerelease that exists

Round 1 get swept by ex into a bye

[digital peak]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GUjhtAoa8AIEeC9?format=jpg&name=large

just saw this cute mat

the snom!

[limpid cliff]

Snom~

[digital peak]

so soon

[thorn kiln]

Anyone enjoying the new TCG pocket game. Been loving it so far

[digital crow]

We've been mostly discussing it on #1020096234968596531

[thorn kiln]

Ah gotcha

[limpid cliff]

The Prismatic Evolution cards look nice

...One thing I kept wondering though, is why ex that evolve from Eevee can't just say "Evolves from Eevee or Eevee ex".

Instead we got this weird ability that skips that thing by just... allowing Eevee ex to evolve into other ex.

[steep crow]

It's future proofing to not include the suffex, as when the next base set for whatever game is next comes out and has a new variant on EX LV X V etc the cards need to work with those too

[limpid cliff]

Ah yeah that could make sense

I was thinking about those ex cards in the, well, ex series that can do that. I think it was cards like Blissey ex for example, since there was a Chansey ex.

[limpid cliff]

Also ex talk has got me missing the Delcatty from ex Ruby/Sapphire

I wonder how helpful it'd be given how Radiant Greninja is around.

[terse temple]

been enjoying pocket tcg

got lucky today too

[digital peak]

https://x.com/makio_jroses/status/1855237116504007029

Makio & JRoses | pokeos.com (@makio_jroses) on X

Budew has been revealed for Terastal Festival!

This is the first Budew card since 2008!

Twitter · Nov 9, 2024, 1:12 PM

[limpid cliff]

Oh wow, that's nice how it's returning

[little kestrel]

What's a "goods" card

Is that like items

[digital peak]

yeah its items

[little kestrel]

Ahhh

[digital crow]

Thinking about how we only got 5 v union mons

[limpid cliff]

Yeah, those were promotional items for the most part

Which I think was a pretty good way of handling it, since finding each individual 4 cards in a set would be really painful

About the only one that saw some success was Mewtwo V-UNION; the rest ranged from impractical to unplayable

[digital crow]

Yea

Wish there was more of them tho, the mechanic was neat

[digital peak]

https://www.pokebeach.com/2024/11/seaking-from-terastal-festival

attack twice with the seaking

[delicate surge]

well
i guess 120 damage draw 4 for 1 energy isn't that bad

[digital peak]

only if it kills something with the first 60 though

[limpid cliff]

You got TM's too

[digital crow]

Multistrike Fish Seakingias

[limpid cliff]

Fish's Fishs

[digital peak]

Oh true, TM master fish

[terse temple]

how does card legality work in pokemon?

is there rotation?

[hot prawn]

Indeed, right now it's based on regulation letters

[terse temple]

do you have a resource for me?

My kids starting to like pokemon a lot so i think might be a good time to get him into card games

[torn wyvern]

It's pretty simple
This is the site with the latest rotation being "E" regulation leaving back in say april
https://www.pokemon.com/us/pokemon-news/2024-pokemon-tcg-standard-format-rotation-announcement

Next year late spring the same will happen to the "F" block of cards

It's also nothing to really worry over imo, it's basically half a year away and most themes will include something included in the rotation

Key cards leaving include: V stars such as Lugia / Regidrago / Palkia, Radiants such as greninja / Charizard and a handful of supporters

[delicate surge]

Bought a pack with my locals entry tonight

[limpid cliff]

Ayyyy nice

[digital peak]

https://x.com/pokebeach/status/1861077562832699397

PokeBeach.com💧 (@pokebeach) on X

McDonald's 2024 Happy Meal Pokemon TCG Promotion Themed After Year of Dragon, Will Include Charizard and Umbreon!

Check out this article on PokeBeach for all the details:

➡️ https://t.co/gRDEKSKpRA

Twitter · Nov 25, 2024, 4:00 PM

[limpid cliff]

oh god there's gonna be riots at McDonalds again isn't it

[steep crow]

There wasn't last time and some of these arts aren't unique iirc

The umbreon is likely the chase here? It's got new art

Depends on if the Eevee or Pikachu are new arts

[limpid cliff]

Man, have we really got to a point where Charizard's been usurped in popularity by Umbreon

[steep crow]

Nah it's cause the charizard isn't unique art

[limpid cliff]

Ah, yeah

It's the Darkness Ablaze one, so I figured that would've been why people want it

wait no that's the Vivid Voltage one

Darkness Ablaze is Charizard V

[little falcon]

Dragonite!

[little falcon]

Are there any decent prebuilt Pokémon decks? Buddies want me to get some to get them to play but idk of any besides the Zard and Pidgeot one

[rich pine]

The zard and pidgeot one

There’s gardevoir but that one requires a whole lot more cards to make good

You can maybe ask them to borrow a deck or if you’re ok with waiting, a lot of decks are the same price (or a little more expensive) than the precons

[little falcon]

Dang figured there’d be more prebuilt stuff but its still just Zard and Mew lol

[rich pine]

Nah the mew deck rotated I think

You can play the world championship decks if you don’t care for proxies

[torn wyvern]

yeah mew's gone

the zard structure is insane value

[little falcon]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G_yBcTFtCyg

[delicate surge]

just bullied a charizard player with scovillain ex (grass)
grabbered their pidgeot ex
eri'ed away rare candy and super rod
hand ripped catching cologne and milled two of their charmanders

really glad this comes out cleanly and not a huge wall of text

please ignore my cringe ass screen name I made it in middle school

i love scovillain ex so muhc

[little falcon]

What’s the best stun deck in the game right now? Buddy wants to build one.

[torn wyvern]

I think snorlax is better than thorns atm

Some decks are relying on latias ex instead of actual switch cards

[final musk]

It’s Snorlax yeah. Thorns has fallen to just being a tech in Dragapult

[delicate surge]

Oh huh, brilliant blender makes V-unions playable

[final musk]

Made day 2 of Toronto Regionals!

Playing Roaring Moon, matchups day 1:

Wins:
3 Miraidon
1 Lost Box
1 Gholdengo
1 Regidrago

Tie: Archaludon Dialga

Losses:
Regidrago
Charizard

[delicate surge]

Copied a Klawf terapagos deck to use in PTCGL
I def need to learn the deck more and I was also just barely short enough credits to get the exact list

[torn wyvern]

yo congrats

are you on the new koraidon

[final musk]

1 copy yeah

Finished 174th, had a rough day 2, but like I barely made day 1 anyhow so

final record 7-4-2

[torn wyvern]

nice stuff still

[final musk]

thnx!

[graceful summit]

Went to locals, went 3-1 with Roaring Moon turbo.
R1 vs Raging Bolt Ogrepon W
R2 vs Raging Bolt Ogrepon L
R3 vs Raging Bolt Ogrepon W
R4 vs Tera Water Garchomp W

[little falcon]

Rich

[graceful summit]

I traded my spare loose copy of HeartGold and 250$ for the Pikachu lmao

[hot prawn]

good stuff Didnt run into ogerbolt? that MU is really tough for me fsr

[graceful summit]

Huge congrats my dude! I def need to take notes when it comes to updating my Roaring Moon/Ancient Box deck from ya!

[hot prawn]

[final musk]

thanks y'all

[final musk]

Ogrebolt's kinda most coming down to who takes the first 2-prize KO, given both decks usually handle for using Catcher to take a 2-prizer early. They can use Slither Wing as a 1-prize if you are forced to Gouging, but you try to go for the ogrepons anyhow

Where Bolt's success differs than Moon is that Bolt has a better Drago matchup, but Moon has a way better matchup on Lax and control

[delicate surge]

i really need to update my scovillain ex (grass) deck in ptcg live

[limpid cliff]

Nice going!

[graceful summit]

Hops Zacian is new i think

[graceful summit]

Won my first ever league challenge pog!

[torn wyvern]

congrats

[graceful summit]

Went 2-0-1 with Gardevoir

R1 vs Regidrago 1-1 Draw
R2 vs Terapagos 2-0 Win
R3 vs Raging Bolt Ogrepon 2-0 Win

[hot prawn]

Congrats!

[graceful summit]

Ill post my list when I get home too

[limpid cliff]

Nice going with that victory!

[limpid cliff]

Ayyy, Emerald Basic Energy

[digital peak]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GfY7j4oXgAAlDO1?format=png&name=small

Iono hugging the kirby face frog

[limpid cliff]

This card I can just tell is already worth thousands alone

[digital peak]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GfaPWOfWgAA63DK?format=jpg&name=medium

[rich pine]

Very very good if N’s Pokémon are good

[final musk]

So far N's Zoroark is very easy to set up, but the movepool it can copy is pretty underwhelming

[graceful summit]

Unfortunate name tho

[graceful summit]

Zacian V + Buzzwole GX did the gusion dance

And speaking of Buzzwole

[delicate surge]

so does Klawf as a deck just kinda die after DTE rotates

[graceful summit]

Maybe some Sadas Vitality, manual attach + Energy Switch shenanigans?

[delicate surge]

i'm just gonna get my klawf fun in while it's guaranteed to exist

I even donked someone turn 1 earlier today

[torn wyvern]

the poison abilities are very funny

[graceful summit]

1 win 2 losses today with Garde.

R1 vs Bolt Ogrepon 0-1 lost in time game 2.

R2 vs Roaring Moon (My nephew) 2-0

R3 vs Electric Box 0-1, lost in time but my opponent felt bad because I had the last prize in hand and reported it as a tie.

[graceful summit]

2nd place 3-1 tn at the other unofficial league. Bo1

R1 win vs Ancient Box
R2 win vs Charizard
R3 loss vs Roaring Moon Turbo
R4 win vs Hydreigon ex

A lot happier with my play tbh.

R3 I could've made the prize trading worse if I had put the 2nd Bravery Charm over 1 Charm, 1 Cape, but it was still a close and excellent game

[graceful summit]

https://www.pokebeach.com/2025/01/metagross-from-battle-partners

The first Psychic Metagross line in 12 years and it's bad 😭

Arita art goes hard though

[delicate surge]

Honestly that’s kind of a cute gimmick

Even if it dies to hydreigon

I could see people trying it out

OHKO pidgeot EX for 2 psychic energy could certainly be worse

[final musk]

The first psychic metagross in 12 years and right when it would have had a good metal metang

Dying to bench snipe ain’t the issue. The issue is 2 psychic energy on a 1-prize stage 2 being too much maintenance

[graceful summit]

Also, kills me that that Metang wont even be compatible with Steven's Metagross ex

[hot prawn]

noo it sucks

[mental carbon]

Just picked this bad boy up for only $7, but I had credit so I only had to pay for shipping

[graceful summit]

Simple, but effective. I like it!

[graceful summit]

These sleeves go so hard

[keen fox]

I need the ace spec ones

[graceful summit]

https://www.pokebeach.com/2025/01/ludicolo-from-battle-partners

While I know Gardy being good post rotation is a pipe dream, hypothetically I can see this as a 2-2 line with Rare Candys and the deck just turns into Drifloon turbo.

It would be able to cap out at 300 every turn without needing Bravery Charm each time. And it could go up to 450 with 1 Ludicolo up and Bravery Charm

[final musk]

https://www.pokebeach.com/2025/01/battle-partners-all-100-main-set-cards-revealed

For anyone who cares, they have the majority of cards translated at this point

[rich pine]

Lulwut

[digital crow]

Yea sounds about right

[delicate surge]

i don't think there's a single deck i hate playing against more than terazard
not just because of me generally disliking Charizard

but it's just a boring bland autopilot deck
even for a game where one player does their turn then the other does theirs

[torn wyvern]

It plays itself, at least it used to be scared of path

[delicate surge]

Also a fresh zard late in the game basically feels impossible to deal with because it’s pumping out 300+ damage for just being played from hand

[steep crow]

Mustn't help that it's probably everywhere cause of the precon

[delicate surge]

It doesn’t no

[rich pine]

Fun deck if you play it as control tho

[hot prawn]

control?

[rich pine]

Basically pidgeot or noctowl control with a bunch of searching/recycling of 1-ofs and a zard or Tera to deal a bunch of damage (coincidentally also 1 ofs most times)

[graceful summit]

[final musk]

honestly with the support, it's not half bad to build around, just that you are building a tank deck and need to respect it's going to be compared to Archaludon ex for a role

notable targets it can accelerate to (Up to MMC, PPC, or PMC for attack cost; basics)

• Flutter Mane
• Fezandipiti
• Orthworm (Crunch Time Rush)
• Iron Valiant ex
• Iron Crown ex
• Iron Treads ex (The future archetype one)
• Mew ex
• Mimikyu for those that still cope it
• Enamorus (Love Resonance)

Still think the best way to play Metagross ex would be to focus on the archetype and make it a tank deck via Metagross and Pidgeot ex

[peak silo]

Hi I dont come here often but has anyone here bought cards from TCGplayer that were damaged/heavily played? Looking to buy a couple of cards from a list I made for collecting and wasnt sure if I should trust with no image (granted a crease on a card could be super bad)

now that I think about it I can probably ask beyond pokemon

[mental carbon]

It’s a gamble, since some shops will classify clearly damaged cards as hp. I mainly collect so I’ll sometimes buy hp/damaged just to have in the binder for really expensive cards. It all comes down to you if you think it’s worth the money or not tbh

[peak silo]

Ah gotcha. I was planning to just buy JP pokemon since thats cheaper although getting them all JP is gonna be weird if its not on tcgplayer as stocked

[digital crow]

Been thinking about it for a while

When was the last time pokemon feature a deck that does something unique?

Rotation only really changes what mons are featured in each deck, but the gameplans usually stay the same, with some minor differences

There's always the deck that cares about how many energy is attached to the actives, the deck that has mutiple mons with the same attack name, the deck that can use attacks from other mons in the discard pile, the toolbox decks that are glued by a shared subtype

So on and so forth

The same applies to trainers and generic utility mons, iono is just reskinned N

[delicate surge]

That one Revavroom ex that lets you have a shit ton of tools attached to it maybe?

[digital crow]

I guess?

Saw literally no play tho, no?

[mental carbon]

Iron thorns?

[digital crow]

Nah

[mental carbon]

There’s also uh

Magnezone

[final musk]

Magnezone saw no play

[mental carbon]

I saw it on the high ladder

[final musk]

that is not accurate of competition

[mental carbon]

I mean sure

[final musk]

PTCGL ladder is a pretty damn low bar

The last deck that had rather unique play to everything else and saw moderate play at the least was probably Rapid Strike Inteleon / Urshifu / Medicham for setting up KO strings that were beyond just powering up 1 pokemon with 5 energy.

[peak silo]

Hi, ive been getting into pokemon tcg thanks to current format yugioh and prismatic evolutions. Where would I get started for it? Very unfamiliar since "jumping" into yugioh was easy from childhood experiences yet I only had pokemon tcg pocket experience as of a week now

[final musk]

As like, experience playing in general/online? Or experience playing IRL?

[peak silo]

Getting started IRL. I saw a deck I do want to play yet when I looked at a regional livestream it looks very fast paced

But previous experience pertains to pocket only

As of rn

before it was just the typical 10 year old idk what these cards do

[final musk]

I'd say:
Look up the tutorial on the game from pokemons' website to understand the differences between pocket and regular TCG
Then, download Pokemon TCG Live and work towards building the deck you want to try.

TCG Live offers some decks immediately, but does require a bit of grinding for the ones that don't

IRL, best to buy singles just like in any other card game. Pokemon's extremely cheap even compared to stuff like Digimon or One Piece

Pokemon has rotation, and cards with the F marking are rotating out this April. a good guide for that specifically: https://www.justinbasil.com/rotation/f-on/introduction

listing of tournaments and decks from them found here: https://limitlesstcg.com/tournaments

[final musk]

Also what deck was this?

[peak silo]

Uh... charizard ex. Just because I like charizard but since I have 0 experience I have no idea how that deck plays or worse if its getting rotated out

[final musk]

a few cards rotate out but most of the deck is intact

just some consitency stuff and one of its attackers

Fine for getting started out, probably not as competitively apt by April

Taking the #1 list from Birmingham as an example: https://limitlesstcg.com/decks/list/15093

The cards that rotate out are:

• Duskull (There is another Duskull that can be used instead)
• Radiant Charizard (No replacement without some more risk)
• Rotom V (No real replacement, loss of consistency)
• Lumineon V (No real replacement, loss of consistency)
• Thorton (No replacement, deck runs higher risk)
• Forest Seal Stone (No replacement, loss of consistency)
• Lost Vacuum (There is a stadium that can do what it does)
• Pokestop (Tech only)

Once rotation hits, there would be need to swap out some cards from what's left to try and adjust too, but pokemon's pretty cheap and most staples are rather easy to get.

[peak silo]

Oh man this is gonna be weird for me because ive been on yugioh for so long where set rotation is a meme

What letter does prisma evolutions have?

[final musk]

H I think

just checked, yeah H

[peak silo]

Gotcha.... this seems palatable to understand

[final musk]

cards currently legal are F, G, H; F rotates out beginning of april

Block I would start with the next set, Journey Together, which comes out same time as rotation

If a card has the same name and effect text as something legal, like an older print, the older print is legal too

So like this great ball is D Block rotation, but an newer print of great ball exists in G, so older prints of Great Ball are legal

that's how they manage certain staples to keep in the format

[steep crow]

Cool misprint

N isn't supposed to be there

Actually wait I could be wrong zoroark is above the N

[final musk]

N is supposed to be there, it's that the texture of the card uses another card

[steep crow]

The foil pattern is wrong I know that

Ahhh

[final musk]

texturing matches this one

[peak silo]

guess I will try Pokemon TCG Live and see how it goes

although this is mighty tempting to purchase

is there anything I need to keep in mind when transistioning from yugioh to pokemon tcg

[mental carbon]

As long as you recognize they’re 2 completely different games you’ll be fine

[rich pine]

you have to make a longer term plan and damage actually matters and mechanics are different

[peak silo]

longer term plan as in I need to invest in the right decks?

actually I shouldnt say investing that sounds silly

[rich pine]

nope as in inside the game

[mental carbon]

As in, have contingency plans in game if A doesn’t go right

[final musk]

no reliable otks here

[rich pine]

oh and stun isn't just expected, it's encouraged

[final musk]

stun is nowhere near as devastating in pokemon as in yugioh, but is also more niche

[rich pine]

imagine having searchable 1 of floodgates that might not be in the deck anymore

[peak silo]

please dont tell me stun is super bad like where they just flip 3 floodgates and shake your hand

[final musk]

It isn't

[peak silo]

I heard that new budew card is also egregious

ah ok

[final musk]

Stun will slow down games but unless you are playing Quad Iron Thorns you are only temporarily affecting gamespeed

[rich pine]

it's not like that but there are instances like with mimikyu vs ex decks where the ex deck has no answer to a singleton mon

[final musk]

That's kinda more an immunity checkmate than a floodgate

Floodgate's like
Klefki

[peak silo]

tbh I love punching people really hard that I saw a youtube vid about ADP being super traumatizing yet for me as an outsider looks amusing because its 3 legendary pokemon annihilating you

[digital crow]

i mean

path to the peak

[final musk]

Mimikyu creating its own wincon would be like playing against a deck that can't out Master Peace

but without other floodgates in play supporting the mimikyu. Just that the opponent of Mimikyu didn't leave room to find a way to beat mimikyu

[peak silo]

does every deck get affected by rotation?

[final musk]

Yes, usually

how much varies

Some decks lose their whole strategy or main attackers / engine
Some decks lose a bit of consistency

[peak silo]

ah gotcha so its like... the best and worst time to join right now

[final musk]

Like I play Regidrago VStar mainly, but Regidrago VStar itself rotates, making the whole deck dead

So I'm playing up new decks to pick from

[peak silo]

although tbf if I did buy charizard now I would play it for 2 months before it gets hindered by rotation yet its still there albeit nerfed

question, are you allowed to put your discard pile above your deck

[peak silo]

question is any of the eeveelutions from prismaevols a viable deck

[final musk]

Flareon's basically the only one that's sorta salvagable as a deck, maybe alongside Jolteon. Not really competitively viable tho

Sylveon saw some small play in control and that's about it

[peak silo]

Aw dang they look so pretty too

[delicate surge]

correct but it's still a neat way of playing imo

[graceful summit]

2-1-1 with Gardy last night. Bo1

W vs Zard
L vs Roaring Moon Turbo
D vs Lugia
W vs Dragapult

5th place and 15$ in store credit, so I made entry +5$ lol.

Next time I'll probs take my own Roaring Moon Turbo. Tired of playing against weakness.

Also did not change my list since last time I played because I was lazy and haven't gotten my Budew yet.

[delicate surge]

I kinda want to own one of these just for the art

[peak silo]

prices dont seem bad for collecting

[delicate surge]

I just like Ting-Lu

He’s my favorite treasure of ruin

[peak silo]

I mean thats kinda the point of collecting: because you like it

[delicate surge]

Ye

[peak silo]

just tried pokemon tcg live and man does it feel weird to not know whether or not youre losing or winning

[peak silo]

this is a silly question, how do you get better at pokemon tcg?

im surprised the game is easy to pick up but I cant translate my yugioh skills to where I know a lot of cards in the card pool

[delicate surge]

You just look at the remaining prize cards to tell who’s kinda winning

Imo you just need to play more and get exposed to the card pool more
Rotation is soonish so it’ll slim down a bit

[final musk]

Pokémon has way less of mountain-of-a-molehill gameplay than Yugioh where you need to plan ahead instead of going for whatever combo or board is in front of you. Prize mapping’s a pretty common term for that.

What do you need to KO to progress your gameplay most effectively, how do you slow down the opponent from doing the same, and is there anything I need to keep for a later turn

[graceful summit]

Honestly, raw practice helps a ton. Just learning the flow of the game through repetition is one of the big keys, that and learning how to map out your prizes depending on what deck you're playing/the opposing decks are. Additonally, start making back up plans for when you prize X card. Sometimes it is impossible if you prizecertain mons but its something you get used to.

[delicate surge]

I’ve had klawf games where I had 2+ double turbos prized

[peak silo]

damn was about to ask if a card was fake and it got sold argh

[graceful summit]

What card just so we can see it anyways?

[peak silo]

https://www.ebay.com/itm/316168634741?_trksid=p4375194.c101800.m5481 this one

[peak silo]

oh I finally won one

[torn wyvern]

While tempo sometimes matters esp in a 2-2-2 race , planning around yours or hindering your opponents prize race is how you establish wins
Turns are gonna happen, mons are gonna get KOd
You can't prevent your opponent (most of the time) which is a lot of ygo optimization
It's making the trades in your favour for the match up that keeps you consistent

[peak silo]

I kind of understood what you meant but I don't want to assume anything. What exactly is a 2-2-2 race? The only other part that confused me is the statement about

You can't prevent your opponent (most of the time) which is a lot of ygo optimization
like is this supposed to be the same application where yugioh you are preventing things from happening (with handtraps) or opposite application?
Granted the only deck that I have played on live is the Charizard EX deck(which I am having some fun with and probably will buy IRL), although I need to start trying different decks to understand the playing style more

[delicate surge]

2-2-2 race refers to how some Pokémon drop 2 prize cards when KOed
So some games are effectively first to 3 KOs

[peak silo]

ah yeah that would make sense

oh chien pao is an OTK deck I see

well not otk but you just slam people hard

[delicate surge]

I prefer Gholdengo for essentially the same gameplay loop

[hot prawn]

Gholdengo

[delicate surge]

Alt art gholdengo ex my beloved

[peak silo]

Alright I might be jumping the gun a bit, but if I do have a deck in mind that I do want to play do I just go on and buy all the singles for it or get one of the preconstructeds with singles (charizard ex)?

Asking because the last deck I bought was.... splight first day POTE format and then slowly stuck with singles but then dropped that deck to go back to branded again.

With that being said, I know its kinda bad to get a new deck rn with set rotation coming in 2 months but I wanna play pokemon IRL instead of waiting

[torn wyvern]

just go for it

zard will 100% still be around

I think if u have nothing getting the precon is worth then the additional singles

be wary of getting say rotom v now if u dont intend to play an event

[peak silo]

gotcha, albeit rotom V is one of the cheaper ones when im looking at it

theres no glofied list of staples similar to yugiohs right

the reddit guide seems outdated since it wants me to buy tapu lele GX

which I assume is outdated

[torn wyvern]

Not really but there's a few

Some are gonna rotate tho like radiant greninja

Most decks play some count of nest, ultra balls, some play poffin, boss iono and research are very common supporters, usually some sort of recovery like super rod or night catcher/stretcher (idr name)
A few utility poke a lot of decks play, fezandipiti ex, mew ex, the new budew and there's offensive options like
Duskull line and blood moon ursa ex
It'll always depend on deck but these cards are all popular

@peak silo

[peak silo]

gotcha, probably the only event im going to is my locals and the last thing I would need is to suddenly after a week or 2 later go to an upper level pokemon event

I guess I make a decklist and then a shopping list

I would assume I just buy this and then look at singles https://www.tcgplayer.com/product/575294/pokemon-miscellaneous-cards-and-products-league-battle-deck-charizard-ex?page=1&Language=English

[steep crow]

This shit is never hitting the shelves for longer than 5 mins

[mental carbon]

Its cheap enough that you can just go ahead and do this

How’s your interest level in attending prerelease events btw?

[peak silo]

uh

never been to one

for yugioh though, ive been to their sneaks

[mental carbon]

They’re very fun. Much different to ygo ones

Playing sealed in general is a good break

[peak silo]

unless youre talking about like

day 1

because I went to prismatic evolutions launch and it was packed

I dont think that was a prerelease though

I think the first thing I would do would be to look around gamestop first or my locals and then go from there

so I think the plan is like

then just buy the staples I need

buy this

[peak silo]

the playmat is 60 USD if you want it https://www.tcgplayer.com/product/606742/playmats-pokemon-international-playmats-pokemon-tcg-eevee-playmat?page=1&Language=English

[peak silo]

when im looking at cards on tcgplayer, do they actually print cards with this big bold line of text

https://i.pinimg.com/736x/76/9c/de/769cde606db29eba87a64ff7bc4c6def.jpg

(this is just a sample, I have no profound interest in camerupt)

[delicate surge]

No

As you can see the bar goes outside the bounds of the card

• the silver border indicates it’s not legal iirc

[peak silo]

Oh... ok

I shall keep that in mind

[steep crow]

The differences between championship cards are a different card back with the logo of the event they won, a signature in silver and a silver boarder

[peak silo]

oh ok, I guess it's not... terrible for collecting only?

[rich pine]

They’re popular with collectors and people who play the decks against each other

[final musk]

https://www.pokebeach.com/2025/02/heat-wave-arena-set-revealed-featuring-misty-ethan-cynthia-and-arvens-pokemon

Next 4 themes determined. Ethan and Misty brought up here.

[little falcon]

that pikachu promo is neat

[final musk]

Ethan is kinda wack because you essentially have 2 different themes that don’t really work well together. Ho-oh/Magcargo is basically inside-out Bax-Pao, but without some of the cards that let Chien Pao succeed (due to rotation). Ethan’s adventure doesn’t compare to what Irida did for Chien Pao.

Typhlosion is another gimmick stage 2 attacker that unfortunately gets put off to the side for being high maintenance. At least it hits good damage.

Misty is really interesting for that distilled blast strategy, but we really need to see more cards for that to be cohesive. Not reliable enough without more Pokémon that work like Psyduck. The Magikarp it got is fantastic.

[rich pine]

Macargo being 70x instead of 70+ makes me pretty sad

[peak silo]

Holy shit pichu

[peak silo]

nah why are all the other babies good but this one just say draw 1 card

I dont seem to own the dragapult deck on tcg live, how does dragapult work? asking because the league battle deck for that comes in a month and i'll buy that instead of the charizard one

[rich pine]

card selection with the stage 1 and then hit hard with some spread with 1 dragapult

no need to commit to multiple dragapults but you can play it that way if you're ok with the risk

[delicate surge]

prob just because it's a 0 energy out to budew

[peak silo]

is the 30 damage really that good

[rich pine]

It stops the item lock with 1 card so it’s not too bad

[peak silo]

what exactly is card selection supposed to mean? is that supposed to be like searching

[delicate surge]

Drakloak has an ability that lets you look at the top 2 cards of your deck and add one to hand send the other to bottom of the deck

[peak silo]

O

wait the league battle deck releases in april im stupid

[graceful summit]

Welcome back