#Legends of Runeterra
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Thats one way of putting it
well it wasn't amazing until last patch but ig now their theme is "big removal" too 
@muted olive
as if it wasn't good on 6
Ephemeral LOL
you need to run death mark or unyielding with her 
That's just Falling Comet. Make it like "this costs 1 or 2 less if you behold a Celestial card"
it is falling comet yeah
Is this the LoR equivalent of regigigas?
No, because regigigas can actually survive for 5 turns vs a magikarp
This dies as soon as turn ends.
this landmark not bad bro @grave zodiac
it;'s very good
Asol 
Patchnotes
Swain nerf is -1 attack, which yeah thats entirely fair
Also Sera got murdered for Ezreals sins
tumble to 4
leveled vayne reduces tumble to 0, instead of reducing by 3. so she still gets 0 cost tumble after leveling up
now you can't prank tumble 
Rip sera
Not sure she'll be missed
Would have rather seen vayne go to 4 alongside tumble 
Change is probs fair I just hate the free attack/rally stuff
Paparo aggro sounds real
Teemo/norra elusive aggro?
Or is it poppy stuff?
Anyways, my fave change is TURN 1 SAGA SEEKER DYING TO PINGS LET'S FUCKING GO
patch is out, time to figure out what to play 
idk if this deck is any good but it sure is fun
don't let ur memes be dreams
god someone threw a darkin harp on valor and now my brain is stuck on that
... wait is there some kind of 1-cost tribal deck?
Where are all these 1-costs coming from
reaver's row got buffed so a lot of people are trying a taliyah 1-drop cheese deck
you get a bunch of 1 drops, duplicate row and they become enormous super quick basically
It's a combo deck, no?
You get reaver's row to 1, clone it, then otk
If you can be more flexible with the combo, good
it has a bunch of landmark accelerators and the rite that summons a destroyed landmark as well, so you can just keep popping it too
it runs some zilean cards but it plays more like discard aggro almost, it's funny
back on kat/tf conservatory shenanigans. idk if it's good but deck is fun as always
ravenbloom never deserved that nerf from 10 to 12 countdown. at least 11 feels somewhat playable again
new darkin weapon for bilgewater is also p nice. ensures u don't run out of gas and can keep up pressure
this is the future
test
This game died when teemo stopped being meta
teemo is literally part of the most popular deck smh
tbh I need to play more but I've been more into mtg lately
Bandle tree is what held the game together 
game's alright r n but def a bit boring
i don't have much motivation to play when next seasonal is like 4 months away like lol
i get that worlds and winter break are things but 1) barely any advertising for worlds and 2) you can def do more like introduce fun modes like that 2v2 one a while back. keep things interesting while the game is on hiatus
at least LoL has pre-season shiit to keep ppl somewhat interested
@grave zodiac
bro they barely added anything this pre-season
why it's resident sleeper rn
i heard it's tanks galore
get that mmr up buddy. we're grinding to diamond next season @grave zodiac
a lot of people rightfully point out they don't advertise lor anywhere outside of like some shitty mobile ads
wait this actually looks insanely fun, why did no one bring this up
ye I don't think they're reverting balance changes, otherwise we'd just get the same set of decks we did before
some people theorized that stuff like bannerman garen with his buff and thresh karma with vengeance buff would be top contenders
you could still probably do aggro at least
It's not the same kom
You don't sit and wait around with open mana because you have enough burn to destroy the rainforest in most aggro
It's less about reach and more about units being big and hard for removal to answer
Champless burn had sooooo much reach
that's how I felt with annie jhin 
man aggro really got nerfed super hard lol
sort of lol
either way hopefully we can get a lot of experimenting, a week sounds nice cause people won't figure out the meta that fast
and the best part is they can recycle this in the future after more balance changes go through
I was thinking corina could still work
That deck used to have an insane matchup vs karma during the go hard era
But they buffed karma's health by 1, which probs flips the matchup
You used to reliably be able to aoe their boards over and over while burning their face off and maybe weaving in a ledros, but now you need to roll a 5 or lose
This is basically a whole lot of nothing
They might as well have said "we have read your feedback, and decided to ignore all of it"
https://app.mobalytics.gg/lor/sets/world-ender reveals going up
does signposts also negate the card
cause if so, that card is quite good
a lot of interesting cards here
tf is empowered
🤷
supposedly it's total power of units that died on your field
nvr
Assimilate: Transform allies Equipped with Darkin Equipment into their Darkin unit forms. If they are Champions, they Level Up.
Empowered: A unit has its Empowered bonus while its Power is at least the listed number.
someone fucked this to make kayle and morg btw
probably someone who goes by HollowPanda
bro wait all these champs are dope af @grave zodiac
that sounds hot
Ryze lets you go corina with sick options
Shame you can't go ryze, corina, go hard, and ledros
i like how each of these champs will just end the game when they level up
that's p sick ngl
these cards will be p fun for yasuo & recall decks
Pnz corina pure spell bullshit

Corina go hard was one of my fave decks
Tho the deck was super braindead often
Just click removal, don't think, corina ledros their ass
such a fun way to do runeterra champs
mayhaps
Eh, corina for 5 is the only combo I want with this
kayle w shurima sounds nice
idk if kai'sa is the move but big stats + multiple keywords never fails
maybe not tho bc kayle can just end the game on her own so probably pick a more supporting champ than kai'sa to pair with
aatrox & ryze are more interesting to theory r n
aatrox could be demacia but could also be something spicy like ionia or targon
shurima could work too since it has good target access through strikes & vulnerable
idk just so many ways you can go since you can use any darkin
so you can really tailor your deck in a lot of diff ways imo
like SI with a focus on dying/reviving so not only your taarosh wins the game but you'll always get aatrox back when needed w rekiindler/harrowing + other darkins provide sooo much value too
ayo LoR lookin' fun again
wait aatrox lissandra 
missed card. works w ephemerals
Oh thats kinda sick
since it doesn't say during your turn, I wonder if you could use this in vayne zed decently
This can be used to capture a high-value ephemeral unit
Or a high-value attacker
If this captures a shark, you get infinite sharks
Every time you swing, you get an extra copy of shark in the pool
Try to outlast infinite 3/1s
You have to kill every single ephemeral because each one comes with 15 extra damage
yep. works w free attacks like tumble, blade dance, etc
well only the first attack each turn with blade dance
slow this time bc lol 4-month long season but made it to masters using Aphelios Viktor
uses bar ofc
Seraphine Bar decks are better but Aph/Vik is fun
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list if anyone wants
wait so is corrupted scythe just becoming rhaast
or did you open 2
@muted olive I'm always 1 turn away from dropping a 16/16 xolani grrr
I think so yeah. When you cast world ender it becomes rhaast
Also ggs have to take phone call
That card spooky af ngl
yeah it's pretty nutty
lor really needs a postgame screenshot function
but 19 power kayle is fuckin hilarious
What are you playing her with
I’ve tried Bard and Viego and they’re like a little@too slow@to@ramp@up
I'm playing her with bard, it's hit or miss
I guess it never misses
tbh idk what to play her with since you wanna attack with a lot of boosted units to get her powered up quick
poppy maybe?
kayle gwen felt good
Watch the Legends of Runeterra World Championship Day 1 Round Robin on December 8th!
@muted olive that new taliyah 3 drop is disgusting
i forgot about that card. was watching mono shurima and din't think about that application
didn't*
p nice card
which one is that?
on summon, summon hibernating rock bear, every time you summon a unit, reduce the cost of your highest landmark by 1
I've seen it in aggro lists and midrange lists now and it has been putting in work
oh right
it has some wonky interactions
like with the 1 drop squirrel
the landmark you summon off it gets reducded by 1 off its own summon
I'm not surprised, after stuff like Quinn's valor eating that vulnerable landmark
there's also synergy with the 4 drop that pops landmarks, you end up with double rockbear turn 5
shit is so gross
you think she could go in turbo thrall?
Ryze might be mega busted when you think about it. Can't decide what the best pairing is yet. Leaning towards Ionia but Freljord or Shadow Isles could be good also
I'm like fairly sure when you run him at least you don't run him to win with exodia, just as a supporting engine
That's an option if you want his region for tellstones & draw power, but I do think the exodia thing is legit since it feels fairly hard to stop
man there's really people who are playing elise ryze in rated
now acolyte turbo, that's where it's at
worlds chat be like
unironically though I kinda wanna try io/fj in some combination cause recall + buried in ice actually sounds really good rn
acolyte turbo was unironically the best deck on the ladder, it was so hard to beat
honestly it still might be fine cause you unironically didn't want to see reliquary that early
Yeah idk if that's hard enough nerf for acolytes
But I like the hotfix bc I legit wasn't about to touch ranked after I hit masters(d3 r n)
are any cards in the Foundation Set still seeing play?
I have Xbox Game Pass so was just curious
ye a ton of cards
there's a ton of classic staples like most of the aggro cards, elise, fleetfeather tracker, mystic shot, etc
Yeah card is donezo
tbh it needed to die
probably still got some decent uses, but it's not auto include at least
the current state of this game 
man vayne makes me hate this game lmao
demacia honestly feels like the worst region to play against (even compared to ionia/other elusives) between so many high value units and free attacks
Yeah something's wrong when elite mono Demacia can perform well bc that deck is about as braindead as it gets
test
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We will retweet when the hotfix is live later today so please be aware before hopping into matches!
Back Alley Bar: c6 > c7
Darkin Aegis: 1|1 > 0|1
World Ender: c13 > c16
Fallen Reckoner: 4|3 > 3|2
Risen Reckoner: 6|3 > 5|2
Vayne: 3|4 > 3|3
Vayne (Level 2): 4|5 > 4|4
566
thank FUCK
LOL
Pro
fuck lmao
decimate topdeck
jesus I nearly lost here actually
if they had a second unto dusk
I didn't think I would nearly die from 12 life after they already attacked
jesus christ what are the chances
lmfao
Picked runeterra back up. That Leona/Kat deck is kinda crazy
You just kinda shut them down and hit them with massive beaters every turn
Here you go, bro. Fanart of your fav @grave zodiac
bro really trying to go the yuri route
Nah, I was just scrolling LoR reddit and saw that lmao
The best feeling in this game is not blocking lethal and burst speed pinging them
Sure dude, I'll take 25, but you take 2 first and you've got 1 left
ah the infamous ezreal sera player
I'm playing Ekko/Jinx and it's so fun to just tap them down with hexite, get excited, or mystic shot
It's also the classic Viego atrocity play
Ekko/Jinx is actually so insane tho
They were right when they said the deck has no bad MUs as long as you're the better player
shit you're right
this deck is fire
there's so much predict in this deck that you can craft every draw
Yeah it's actually insane
You can just guarantee you draw your outs
And then you just absolver them
yeah I never realized the value of absolver on a go-wide board until I used it to just game a deck by going that wide
Absolver is so good. You just buff a guy and then Ekko does 7
chronobreak is just bonkers too
Oh yeah, Chronobreak is nuts
anyone know how much time is left in the season? I might unironically climb to masters
3 days
fuck really? gotta actually grind then lol
Yeah
i'm like d1 and haven't been motivated since end of nov lmfao
teemo caitlyn traps is so fun
chronobreak vs reckoning 
I tried switching off ekko jinx for like 10 games and went on a massive losing streak, it's clearly a sign
Deck is too good
This is an awesome way to do competitive moving forward
Gauntlet has been replaced by the daily rumble, a daily micro tournament of 1 of 5 formats
Winning them gets you rewards and points to the open
Opens are every other month, no fee to participate, and comes with way more points
THE LADDER WILL CONTRIBUTE TO YOUR POINTS TOWARDS REGIONALS EVERY SEASON NOW
So you can quality by any combination of consistently good at the ladder, consistently good at daily tournaments, or placing in opens
If you win an open, you're immediately qualified for worlds, but you can also qualify via points
Oh and rewards for however you go about accumulating points
Additionally, they're gonna be partnering with community tournaments and possibly giving out awards/points for those too
This is like the perfect system for this?
who the fuck runs this in pirate aggro?
Dude I literally lost to that exact same guy earlier
Same card too
It just blew me out of the game
Papi Gelpapi just taking all y’all asses
what fucks me up the most is that I'm playing around fervor with get excited
and just holding ekko for this shit
so this is just a correct play then I get punished with ghetto mystic shot
Yeah pretty much
On you for playing correctly
God I would not be playing any champions within quietus range rn
Lemme just kill your Azir for 1
when is this card going to 1 or less power
you still have the azir problem but this thing is clearly too strong removal for 1 mana
"ghetto mystic shot" LOL I'M DEAD
not like you're triggering reputation in this deck lmao
Kat has so many buggy interactions with SI stuff wow
Eternal Dancers goes infinite with her
And she doesn't work right with ephemeral
at this point, it's intended
also kat's just kinda broken tbh. she's probably out first wave of rotation
current design makes her giga frustrating to play against if you can't deal with her the turn she's dropped
Kat went from worst champ in the game to the outright best
There's not really a way to make her fair that either doesn't make her immediately unplayable or insane
I feel like that's less due to kat and more that most of the broken champs got nerfed real hard
not to say she's not really strong, but there's no champ I'd call particularly broken atm
I have a lot more frustration with cards like quietus and opulent foyer
I've switched to playing the deck for now
It's just outright the best deck
I think kat has too many strong tools surrounding her, but her design is inherently unhealthy
She's either answered immediately or you rally every turn (sometimes multiple times)
I think the bigger problem is that gwen kat has so many tools that you can reliably get to that point, quietus being the most egregious example
foyer is not only a stalling tool but it serves as scaling and something to use with rally abuse
True. But there's also stuff like if you let them rally with eternal Dancers out and a dead Kat (something you've gotta do to win) you lose the game
Like outright lose
Because they can attack forever from that point
I know it's a 6 mana situation, but it's an infinite
I feel like I've lost long before that idk
not really fast but you know you've lost fast
if they've stalled out enough you're fucked
hallow interaction with rally + gwen being gwen just is so hard to deal with already
doing everything is more or less it yeah
It's one of the fairer top decks, but it's tough
I think kat will be getting the nerf especially cause she's in 2 top meta decks rn but idk what they wanna hit with her
maybe putting blade's edge on level up back to 1 mana?
Maybe she returns after the full combat now?
So she can get hit if she's not big enough?
But I could see the blade's edge revert too
Feel like it was kind of troll to let hallowed trigger multiple times in 1 turn
Yeah that too tbh
idt they'd want to change that since gwen is balanced as far as winrate goes and they let stuff like azirelia happen
that said again a foyer nerf is to change it to "the first time you gain the attack token each turn" 
I meant moreso like it’s just asking to be abused
I know it’s not blade dance level of stupid but that already showed how strong multi attacking mechanics are if abused
Also Gwen was like good on release and all they’ve done is buff her non-stop or release good support cards for her lol
yeah idk why they're so intent on gwen being bonkers
nerf? kat will be getting rotated LOL
the rally is the issue. blade's edge is icing on cake. idt hitting that part of kat would really do anything outside of ppl using the blade less bc it costs mana now. not saying it's not impactful but it wouldn't really solve the issue of kat being an on-demand rally that cheats ephemeral and abuses multi attacks
idk I feel like there's a way to get her more balanced out without making her useless again or having her op
but maybe you're right, it does say a lot when shunpo has been a useless card for 95% of its lifespan up until now, unless I missed some noxus deck that ran it before
let's goooooooooo first time masters
damn it you trolled me, there's another week to go in the season smh
hell yeah let's go
They extended it
Season was supposed to end tonight, but it's going to next week now
komi do i have you added on LoR btw @gilded pike
idk what's your name on lor
Lukio#NA1
oh I do have you added
I think I decided what I'd like a kat nerf to be
Make her level up "I've struck twice"
that sounds like it kills her
that's why I was suggesting lighter nerfs before
honestly just get rid of the interaction where she recalls and levels if ephemeral and maybe drop her power 1?
I could see it
and/or make the blade cost 1 still on level up
yeah that's not the point though, the big point is you're going tempo negative for a repeatable rally and those two are supposed to balance each other out
she wasn't touched in the slightest before the blade buff because that's what made her a viable champ
Nah there's always been the talk that she was immediately good the second we got a good shell for her
I disagree since she got 2 straight buffs in a row, you could argue she was fine with the first blade's edge addition but I think the blade's edge is the key to her fitting into most decks
even with leona kat you can use it to clear chump blockers/threaten killing a unit that would normally be left with 1 hp
Oh and she was a 1 off in the masters lists that played deserter
Giving Viego an extra rally won you the game
good ol rally + hallowed
Snip snip
btw is losing more rp than you gain normal in masters
ok
I rotate that one and the DnD board
Also, I might have discovered an insane tech for Kat/Gwen
Yes
Okay yeah my tech is working really well
Turn 5 win because it's just free damage
(Cut a phantom butler for a single shark chariot)
I'm honestly surprised I haven't seen this before
It just feels right
oh yeah I've seen this a bit before
I think you give up a bit of defense for a lot more pressure, so you make your aggro matchup worse but it helps a lot vs control and the likes
Yeah for sure. It's a minor tradeoff and sometimes it's a win more or doesn't do anything
But it makes slower decks have to answer things way faster than they'd like
Masters is almost all control, Ekko/Jinx, Cultists, and the mirror
I think this was the right call
I'm getting a weird amount of control too, yeah
Control is solid in higher ranks I guess
It's been tough here and there, but I'm sitting at 160 rn
Ryze is still a free win
But Yi/Karma is 50/50
That Seraphine deck is TOUGH
have you played against annie kat yet
Yeah, it's not the easiest maktchup, but it's possible if we're aggressive enough
So I think the chariot was the right call, because it's forcing opponents to either out-aggro us
Was briefly in the top 200
Went on a losing streak
Down to top 500, but that's still not bad
sometimes it really be like that
True. Sucks because it won them them the game
Leveling Kat really is just an immediate win
I feel like that doesn't do enough
means quietis can kill it now
Since she's safe to trade with Hallowed
OH SHIT YOURE RIGHT
If anything, that centralizes the format to be the same deck more
I think this nerf isn't the right call tho
Oh wait. That sucks now
I like this change a lot now
it works on things damaged now, keep in mind
so there's a room for playing into it now
Yeah actually I love that
kayn needs 4 cultsists now
Good
That's a huge nerf
Cultists is probably dead
(Which is good considering it's the best deck)
Like yeah Kat/Gwen is destroying the ladder
But if you look at top decks in masters, it's ALL cultists
Well that and Yi/Karma
Yi is good?
goodbye eye
Yi is great in control decks
jinx spell is now 3 damage
Especially now that he's got the Hallowed landmark
That's fair
Illaoi continues to pay for other deck's crimes
proro cannon finally costs 1 mana
Thank God
That's not enough for her tho
That makes it unplayable probably
Nice enough I guess
It does
illaoi got a 1 atk increase
tentacle smash got -1 cost
ornn is now a 5/5
so brej can draw him I guess
if any equipment you equip to him has 1 power then he levels for free basically on his first swing
pls kayle buff
Yeah, I'm theorying Ornn/Jax
Although I do think Katt/Gwen doesn't change
Ornn/Jax can theoretically grind them out tho
arent these insane buffs
Holy shit
@gilded pike
Lissandra is probably good but thralls is dead
Ya know, maybe I need to start playing Gwen/Zedd/Ahri
I think red Gwen stays unchanged, but Ornn/Jax and Gwen/Ionia is good af
YO WHAT
about fuckin time
holyyyyyyyyyyy
ACTUALLY RIDICULOUS
holy shit that's a huge buff too
I think lissandra's buff is kind of a placebo lowkey
you need to revert 1 of the 2 nerfs she got before with the watcher cause that's the wincon
I think Shyvana's buff isn't enough imo
But it is sorta scary
That yi buff is ABSURD THO
well yi still has to strike but this makes him actually reasonable
Whats the buff to Yi?
shyvana buff is so fuckin huge
It is
But I dunno what fury looks like
I do think the Ornn/Jax buffs made that deck massively better too
this was very necessary
Kayle is a lot better, but still not good
this is the region that can protect him, but protecting vs vile feast et al sounds like a pain
might serve a similar role to Zoe now where you have him as a threat but he's closer to a follower
Yooo holy shit
This is HUGE
Hate Spike might replace Quietus in decks that can afford it
Yes it is
It's got a counter spell, it's got the obelisk card, it's got all sorts of control shit
Ionia is the control region, but Shurima is second in control
The control region is Freljord then Shadow Isles then Ionia
Shurima is not even in the top 3
I'd disagree
Freljord is ramp
Shadow Isles is control in the same way black is in MTG
Ionia is the closest to control
It goes:
-Ionia
-Shurima
-Shadow Isles
Ionia has literally no kill spells
Or AoE
Freljord has the best AoE, good healing, and the best control payoffs
Shadow Isles has the good kill spells
Ionia is fine, but its not the closest to control, thats Shadow Isles
Ionia doesn't need kill spells
And Shurima is even further away, because while it has a couple kill spells
It's got counters and bounces
Its very poor at the actual killing
Countering spells is not something that is unique to control
It's not, yeah
Bounces is something that tempo decks use, not control decks (usually)
Ionia is the tempo region
I'd disagree, but Ionia is a bit tempo, a bit control
The only control deck I can think of that was running Ionia is Karma/Ez and only because of Karma
When Ionia is good it's either a midrangedeck or a hard control deck
Both the Ryze control deck and the Yi control deck rn
Nope, masters is way different
Yi/Karma is the best control deck
Although ftr is up there
And Ryze is mixed, but Ryze control is a real deck
No, according to runeterra.ar, FTR is also the best control deck in masters
Swain Norra is second
Yi is ... 5th?
I feel like that's not up to date
Last 7 days
Ftr is probably better, but it's not as played
Swain Norra has almost triple that at 2.05%
But Yi/Karma is really popular rn
And FTR is more than triple that at 3.12%
... no its 0.89%
Its extremely unpopular
Well not extremely
I dunno, I feel like I see it a lot
But FTR is the fourth-most played deck
YI/Karma is seventeenth
You probably ran into a small meta bubble
Probably, but I'm in top 300, so it's weird that it's kinda popular here and nowhere else
True
Season ends tomorrow right?
idk but i thought new patch would be today
Is it not?
It’s just the patch notes
Damn
ig they're doing that thing where they release the notes one day ahead
I found the next big deck starting tomorrow
Gwen/Illaoi
Your hallowed buffs the tentacle, which buffs Illaoi, which buffs Gwen
We even have rallies via Blood in the Water
Remind me to try out Illaoi/Gwen and Ornn/Jax when I get home
the spawn weapon (eye of god) kinda counterintuitive tho, bc if you have it equipped on illaoi, illaoi's spawn + self-buff triggers first then eye of god triggers, meaning you're losing out on 2 attack that way
I think Red Gwen is still gonna be the best deck, but I low-key feel like Illaoi/Gwen was slept on prior
so you have to put the weapon on another unit and have that unit attack before illaoi if you want illaoi to gain the extra 2 attack from the weapon trigger
Hallowed buffs the tentacle, and that buffs Illaoi and Gwen
Although Black Flame Illaoi might be better
Really comes down to if SI feels better than Ionia I guess (I'd say it does)
Like black flame is nice, and it got me to top 500 in masters
But honestly? The card feels like it's a win more option
You only win with black flame if it was a game you were gonna win without it
Never once did I drop the card and go "oh yeah I was losing but I'm safe now"
Yo want to put it on the tentacle itself
It grows on its own that way
nice
nice
Ornn/Jax feels really strong
I still think Illaoi/Gwen is good too, but I haven't quite gotten it working yet
I still imagine illaoi/vayne is where it's at
I think there's more synergy in SI
Starting to come together
I'm thinking Midrange as a grindier deck is working
You wanna be murdering turn 5-6
As expected, Red Gwen is exactly the same
Went on a losing streak, but it feels like the new SI card is much worse in practice than theory
Yeah this deck is fun as hell
Dude totally had the game but then proceeded to lose by letting me level TF
highkey I forget tf can level sometimes just cause I see it so rarely
I've thrown a game like that in the past too
Yeah if he levels you just win
I really hope the Ryze deck falls off soon
It's solitaire where neither player gets to play because they're trying to grind you to a half for their wincon
Too slow of games and no interaction
I'm still amazed this deck was considered dog shit at one point now there's this
I think it's marginally better, but I also think it's new toy syndrome
I still think the deck isn't great
Also it suffers in faster mus
Deck is annoying to play against
Actually frustrating if you're on control and can't efficiently interact w the 2-mana landmarks (technically 4 total bc delve costs 2 spell mana but refill spell mana is crazy)
Yeah I think that's the biggest issue. You just actually can't interact with their landmarks so you either have to solitaire and murder them first (which takes 20 turns because their deck is awful to play against) or you have to sit there for 20 turns until they get to play their win button
I feel like Tristana has really skyrocketed into just being the best champ
Ryze's winrate is negative again. Good
I've started playing lurkers for the first time, and this deck is actually really fun
Seems strong rn too
stabilizing against lurk ❤️
is that the name of the deck cause lol
just sounds weird like the dark brandon shit
Sometimes it called Dark Heimer
I just call it Arcane Control
It's kinda bullshit Ryze doesn't level if he dies
Woops meant Pyke
Still bullshit
Pyke will connect for 15 and he won't get the progress on death
isn't that the same as most champs
It is for "I've Seen"
Pyke is just "allied Pykes have"
Which should count because the strike still happens
Yeah, it's probably that. So that he doesn't take their board with him on death
riot really does need more consistency on their rulings
Definitely. There's things that need to be clarified
The worst part of losing to Ryze is that they can misplay an entire turn beforehand and sit on their 4/6 with spellshield and all the runes and you still lose
Like you can see the whole thing on board, you just can't prevent it
I see some pretty neat cards here
Yeah Serene and Badgerbear both stand out as big
Marai is probably pretty good. And Priestess is interesting
No clue if Jayce runs Formula
it looks like it slots into jayce heimer perfect
if you can resolve sky-singer, that looks insanely scary
Yeah if sky singer makes it, your deck gets NASTY
Rounded up means stuff like 1 mana nopeify, 2 mana deny, 3 mana attrocity and all sorts of free spells
Karma/Yi might be real
https://playruneterra.com/en-us/news/game-updates/patch-4-2-0-notes/ oh whoops we just have the patch notes lol
eve getting buffs is real nice, atrocity to slow is probably low-key overdue
0 Ryze nerfs sucks
But the nerf to attrocity is fair
Leona package looks dead tbh
On the bright side, outside of Ryze, lurk lost all it's bad matchups
Yeah Formula is nuts
didn't realize the patch was already out
Yeah, they come a day ater notes now
So what's the moves for the open?
It's highlander so we're really just gonna have to settle on value piles
highlander
seraphine time
I'm actually leaning towards a Seraphine/ezreal/vi/Jayce/Heimer SI value pile as one of my picks
Calling it the JP server special
The other two rn are probably pirates with tf/mf/kat/draven and mono-shurima
Turns out you can just play all the ascended and one of all the good cards and the deck still sorta works
I'm most confident in the seraphine list but having only one Seraphine sucks
I'll probably toy with the aggro later and possibly just force it to be scouts (that's what I'm playing in diamond 1 rn, free wins), but noxus feels too good to give up
I'll probably hit masters tomorrow after work, and I'll play all three lists for a bit there
is it a typical gauntlet format
the sera control list is the only one I'd know for sure lol
Outside of highlander, it's typical gauntlet, yeah
So finding two other lists to fill in the pz value gaps is gonna be hard
I feel like aggro is gonna be in there too somewhere
For aggro, I'm just looking at all the good noxus/bilge cards in a deck
Did a little testing of all three last night and they work, but there's no consistency
I'm sure they're fine against other highlander decks
So turns out the interaction between Scouts and Opulent Foyer is silly
Scouting procs foyer as if it's a proper attack
ye I don't see why it'd be any different from kata
that was another strength to quinn gwen
Ye, it's neat af
God they really need to nerf Ryze to unplayability
Love 20 minute games where it feels like my decisions don't matter
Make the refill 2 mana, make rune prison cost 3, and only have him make a single delve a turn
cost 3
or just revert its buff to 2 spell mana
They should do that too, but I think 2 mana/free rune prison is part of the issue
That and Ryze being a 4/6 with spellshield
Honestly, I think the biggest way to weaken him would be bump it back to 2 and make him only generate a copy of the card per Ryze
But he shouldn't have spellshield imo
If you wanna play a control deck, just play FTR or Jayce/Heimer or Lux like God intended
honestly I think they're just gonna do it lissandra style at this point
where it's not an instant win so it just becomes unviable
I'm totally fine with that
I really hope rotation flops so hard they undo it within a month ngl
We dont have an official announcement yet
These are just the ones we know of so far
They do still plan to support the expanded format
Just no straight to expanded cards (which judging by MTG, is probably a good thing)
Oh no they dont
It wont even have permanent ranked, remember?
Besides, giving cards to it is basically neccessary, historic got a lot better with the anthologies
Otherwise its just worse balanced standard
I think they've mentioned permanent ranked might happen
And they have said they'll balance for it
So if a card is too good, it'll get a nerf
I'm a bit worried about a lack of balance for one format or the other just cause in the past it feels like they've struggled to keep up in some metas
Yeah true, but if they do it right and support both formats, that could be really good
No straight to expanded cards is probably a good thing so they don't push something super hard
And having expanded be stronger with standard more unique stuff could be cool
Rotating vile feast is HUGE for standard
I'll definitely be interested in seeing what they do from here
Also, they confirmed that Vlad will be getting a new card (hence the rotation)
So that opens it up to champs getting new versions
They said they didnt rule it out
Not that it might happen
Which is Riot speak for "yeah, were ruling it out unless the backlash gets too bad"
One of the designers tweeted it was likely eternal will get a normal ranked mode
They also said theyll only rarely balance it
... did they?
Thats news to me
They also didnt confirm that Vlad will be getting a new card, they said that they might rework Vlad
Which is Riot speak for "probably not"
Also this is from the article. Looks like eternal will have its own ranked queue and seasons
And that Standard will be the go to mode for events, but eternal isn't off the table
It will have ranked mode sometimes
Its like what wizards wanted to do with historic originally
Before the backlash forced them to make it permanent
I'm sure they'll settle on permanent based on how this is worded
Hell, the next open is highlander
They're probably just trying various things
I expect that we will have to bully them into making it permanent
They said they dont want to split queues which is why its not permanent in the AMA after all
Regardless, I hope the damage from rotation is at the very least minimal, or ideally that they prevent the damage by undoing it
I dont want a repeat of Duelyst 1
I think rotation could be fine if both formats are supported and whatnot
Although I'll just play expanded anyways
Thats the big "if"
But if that was the goal, why wouldnt they make the eternal format the standard one, and make the rotating format a curated one that gets less support since it needs less, like EternalTCG does?
I guess they wanna copy the MTG "standard is the entry point" system
Well hearthstone does it too
I mean historic on mtg had the same problem and even wizards caved eventually with that
I'm sure it won't be too hard to get permanent ranked for eternal
You can do that and make it the secondary format still tho
And eh, given the fact that they specified being worried about split queues
Im not sure its gonna be that easy
Just played the meanest game of Lurkers ever
Opened: Rek'sai, The Fearsome 1 drop and triple call the swarm
T1 1 drop pass
T2 swing and call the swarm the rek'sai
T3 Snapjaw Swarm I made and hit the OTHER REKSAI ON TOP
They scooped there
Yo we have a pro in the house
Lurk is also just easy af this season
You outrace elites, jayce and Ryze and outvalue annie
Why is the open Bo1?
ig they thought people wouldn't have enough singleton decks
or just wanted to try a new format for more casual players
I guess. I ended up making 5 decks and deciding my best 3 last night lmao
Settled on cultists because it wins the seraphine matchup (more consistent) and is faster than anything but pure aggro
Guess I'm not playing Jhin/Annie or Seraphine Value
Maybe it's because it's highlander or what, but this open has brought out so many people who just don't fucking concede on a loss
3/5 games I've played so far have been over 3 turns before I won because they wouldn't scoop
New expansion is called "Glory in Navori"
Champs are Samira, Sett and (seemingly) Jack the Winner?
Damn, was hoping to see Sylas on there
Well he's probably coming still
Sylas and Set had their keywords leaked at the same time
Leaked Keywords were:
-Brash (Sett)
-Riftwalk
-Deathless
-Seeking (Sylas?)
Seeking is a shitty keyword name, so let's hope it's just the internal
Iirc Hallowed has a dumb internal one too, something like "Glowing"?
hopefully samira is something nice for noxus
Is she noxus? I thought she was Shurima
I think she was born in Shurima but lives in noxus
noxus has a lot of people from other regions cause it accepts everyone as long as they're willing to fight, etc
Part of Jack's art was revealed
That's definitely an Ionian arena so he's fighting Sett
ye her story is like she is from a part of shurima that suffered under ascended rule so she thinks noxus is the better deal but she is more of a mercenary for it
I think jack's lore is that he was a nobody who accepted a deal with tahm to never lose in fights again so he's a weird inclusion as a champ
Maybe his lore will be about getting out of his deal with Tahm?
I don't think we have another champ in LoL who openly accepted a deal with any of the demons besides swain
nilah
sounds like a deal
which has negative "side effects" for her
i have no idea i just figured its a deal
it's actual;ly pretty easy to get out of his deals, you just have to stop doing what you wished for lol
Ah makes sense
but tahm feeds off greed so xd
really hope they flesh out the demons more especially whenever they revisit nocturne
Could be cool to see how they tie all the lore together for Sett and Jack
So I guess Jack and Sett will be the intended pair
they sort of revised it with nilah and yone release but idk how much you can flesh them out since they're supposed to be like giga op
power levels are sort of out of whack but eh
tbh i just want an excuse for more swain lore
I wonder who you're supposed to pair Samira with then?
can't believe samira isn't going to be a reputation unit
the keyword was practically made for her
she's also tied to both regions that care about reputation lol
really wouldvr made sense
Sett is today's reveal (8 Ionian cards, one creates 2 other cards)
punch daddy >w<
Looks like Samira is Sett's intended pair
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The elusive 2 drop is going to be annoying
Yeah accountant is gonna be annoying
Honestly I think accountant is gonna be pretty mediocre
Shed have to hit twice just to be ok
Tag Out is gonna be good I think
Depends on how good coins are
It's 1 to 4 mana to do good things
Baseline its just worse will
That maybe allows you to bank mana
But I assume you get other ways of spending coin
I mean, refilling mana is ALWAYS strong
Yeah but you have to build it up
Especially since only at 2 coins does it refill at all
wait what
Coins cost 1 mana and refille 1* the number of coins
Worst case scenario it's a recall that discounts your next spell
No, worst case scenario its a 5 mana will of Ionia
wait that doesn't say spell mana
Nope
monka
shame you can't do it like mtg and "untap" lands to cast massive spells, but that shit sounds really scary for unit spam
sett looks nuts, you can level him up before playing him too
show stopper seems like powerful removal but I kinda wanna try him with heimer for spell mana shenanigans and use the coins to make turrets?
Place your Bets looks insane
Baseline is pseudo 4 mana draw 2
Which is already entirely playable
And its in Ionia which lacks card draw that isnt cycling
well deep med
it doesn't proc tf but it's essentially a better draw a lot of the time
Not in a unit-heavy deck tbh
But fair, I forgor that card
Still, if coin as a deck is going to work
That card is why
Yeah Bets is silly
Wow he looks wild
deep med does level up TF if that's what you're saying
Bro!!
Not only is he slow playing, he lost like 8 turns ago
I hate when people refuse to just fucking scoop
Like there's no reason to hold me hostage for 15 minutes to play out your loss. You won't topdeck the answer
FINALLY won
Dude spent the last 3 turns frostbiting Gwen because he ran out of options
This is masters, you can just scoop and move on
o you're right, forgot it was considered draw lol
And quick attack
The 1-cost augment also has quick attack
Oh so it does
Secret keeper is going to be very fun to@build@around
Definitely
You play him in some zilean stuff for the sake of sometimes hitting level 2 Asol
not being hit by pokey stick and mystic shot seems like a pretty big advantage compared to the 1-drop augment
and being fae gives it some type bonuses alongside naturally fitting with other created cards in that archetype
Yeah it's probably pretty decent
Samira package stuff
No clue what Brash is, but it's interesting her package is split into 2 regions
Brash is reverse fearsome
Units with 3 or less health can't block it
I literally cant tell if these are playable or not lol



