#Legends of Runeterra

1 messages · Page 3 of 1

night nova
#

And ground slam and paddle star

#

Which are not good

slim jacinth
#

Thats one way of putting it

gilded pike
#

well it wasn't amazing until last patch but ig now their theme is "big removal" too nyaruhodo

night nova
#

oh right sunburst is 5 now

grave zodiac
#

@muted olive

night nova
#

as if it wasn't good on 6

muted olive
night nova
#

you need to run death mark or unyielding with her KEKW

muted olive
#

That's just Falling Comet. Make it like "this costs 1 or 2 less if you behold a Celestial card"

night nova
#

it is falling comet yeah

naive viper
night nova
#

No, because regigigas can actually survive for 5 turns vs a magikarp

#

This dies as soon as turn ends.

gilded pike
muted olive
#

this landmark not bad bro @grave zodiac

grave zodiac
#

it;'s very good

night nova
#

Asol monkaGIGA

slim jacinth
#

Patchnotes

#

Swain nerf is -1 attack, which yeah thats entirely fair

#

Also Sera got murdered for Ezreals sins

grave zodiac
#

what got changed by vayne, they didnt make it clear

#

did vayne or tumble go to 4

muted olive
#

tumble to 4

#

leveled vayne reduces tumble to 0, instead of reducing by 3. so she still gets 0 cost tumble after leveling up

gilded pike
#

now you can't prank tumble pensivecowboybread

night nova
#

Rip sera

#

Not sure she'll be missed

#

Would have rather seen vayne go to 4 alongside tumble angryBoye

#

Change is probs fair I just hate the free attack/rally stuff

#

Paparo aggro sounds real

#

Teemo/norra elusive aggro?

#

Or is it poppy stuff?

#

Anyways, my fave change is TURN 1 SAGA SEEKER DYING TO PINGS LET'S FUCKING GO

gilded pike
#

patch is out, time to figure out what to play nyaruhodo

#

idk if this deck is any good but it sure is fun

muted olive
#

don't let ur memes be dreams

gilded pike
#

god someone threw a darkin harp on valor and now my brain is stuck on that

night nova
#

I faced that once

#

Poor dude got farmed

slim jacinth
#

... wait is there some kind of 1-cost tribal deck?

#

Where are all these 1-costs coming from

gilded pike
#

reaver's row got buffed so a lot of people are trying a taliyah 1-drop cheese deck

#

you get a bunch of 1 drops, duplicate row and they become enormous super quick basically

night nova
#

It's a combo deck, no?

#

You get reaver's row to 1, clone it, then otk

#

If you can be more flexible with the combo, good

gilded pike
#

it has a bunch of landmark accelerators and the rite that summons a destroyed landmark as well, so you can just keep popping it too

night nova
#

So it's zillean but buffed poros instead of burn damage

gilded pike
#

it runs some zilean cards but it plays more like discard aggro almost, it's funny

muted olive
#

back on kat/tf conservatory shenanigans. idk if it's good but deck is fun as always

#

ravenbloom never deserved that nerf from 10 to 12 countdown. at least 11 feels somewhat playable again

#

new darkin weapon for bilgewater is also p nice. ensures u don't run out of gas and can keep up pressure

muted olive
#

this is the future

muted olive
#

test

grave zodiac
#

This game died when teemo stopped being meta

gilded pike
#

teemo is literally part of the most popular deck smh

#

tbh I need to play more but I've been more into mtg lately

naive viper
#

Bandle tree is what held the game together pensivecowboybread

muted olive
#

game's alright r n but def a bit boring

#

i don't have much motivation to play when next seasonal is like 4 months away like lol

#

i get that worlds and winter break are things but 1) barely any advertising for worlds and 2) you can def do more like introduce fun modes like that 2v2 one a while back. keep things interesting while the game is on hiatus

#

at least LoL has pre-season shiit to keep ppl somewhat interested pensivecowboybread @grave zodiac

grave zodiac
#

why it's resident sleeper rn

muted olive
#

i heard it's tanks galore

#

get that mmr up buddy. we're grinding to diamond next season @grave zodiac

grave zodiac
#

sure we are kid

#

you've been dead for so long

gilded pike
#

a lot of people rightfully point out they don't advertise lor anywhere outside of like some shitty mobile ads

gilded pike
#

wait this actually looks insanely fun, why did no one bring this up

night nova
#

rising tides

#

CHAMPLESS BURN MIRRORS LESGOOOOO

#

Unless they keep the current nerfs

gilded pike
#

ye I don't think they're reverting balance changes, otherwise we'd just get the same set of decks we did before

#

some people theorized that stuff like bannerman garen with his buff and thresh karma with vengeance buff would be top contenders

night nova
#

I loved rising tides burn meta

gilded pike
#

you could still probably do aggro at least

night nova
#

It's not the same kom

#

You don't sit and wait around with open mana because you have enough burn to destroy the rainforest in most aggro

#

It's less about reach and more about units being big and hard for removal to answer

#

Champless burn had sooooo much reach

gilded pike
#

that's how I felt with annie jhin nyaruhodo

night nova
#

Yeah, and annie jhin is fun

#

I like burn aggro a lot more than unit aggro

gilded pike
#

man aggro really got nerfed super hard lol

night nova
#

Ig that's why I like karma lux, corina, and ez

#

They're just burn decks

gilded pike
#

sort of lol

#

either way hopefully we can get a lot of experimenting, a week sounds nice cause people won't figure out the meta that fast

#

and the best part is they can recycle this in the future after more balance changes go through

night nova
#

I was thinking corina could still work

#

That deck used to have an insane matchup vs karma during the go hard era

#

But they buffed karma's health by 1, which probs flips the matchup

#

You used to reliably be able to aoe their boards over and over while burning their face off and maybe weaving in a ledros, but now you need to roll a 5 or lose

slim jacinth
#

This is basically a whole lot of nothing

#

They might as well have said "we have read your feedback, and decided to ignore all of it"

gilded pike
grave zodiac
#

does signposts also negate the card

#

cause if so, that card is quite good

#

a lot of interesting cards here

slim jacinth
#

Im assuming it does

#

Its like Remand in MTG

muted olive
#

tf is empowered

slim jacinth
#

🤷

grave zodiac
#

supposedly it's total power of units that died on your field

#

nvr

#

Assimilate: Transform allies Equipped with Darkin Equipment into their Darkin unit forms. If they are Champions, they Level Up.

Empowered: A unit has its Empowered bonus while its Power is at least the listed number.

#

someone fucked this to make kayle and morg btw

muted olive
#

probably someone who goes by HollowPanda

#

bro wait all these champs are dope af @grave zodiac

grave zodiac
#

there was too much text on the rune cards

#

so I didn't read them

muted olive
#

ryze will be an all spell deck like og corina btw @grave zodiac

#

have fun vro

grave zodiac
#

that sounds hot

night nova
#

Ryze lets you go corina with sick options

#

Shame you can't go ryze, corina, go hard, and ledros

muted olive
#

i like how each of these champs will just end the game when they level up

#

that's p sick ngl

#

these cards will be p fun for yasuo & recall decks

night nova
#

Fan for ephemerals

#

Just an infinite source of ephemerals

muted olive
#

ja

#

i'm thinking ryze with either bilgewater or pnz for draw power

night nova
#

Pnz corina pure spell bullshit

#

Corina go hard was one of my fave decks

#

Tho the deck was super braindead often

#

Just click removal, don't think, corina ledros their ass

muted olive
#

such a fun way to do runeterra champs

night nova
#

There have to be uninteractive combos with this

#

Somehow

muted olive
#

mayhaps

night nova
#

Eh, corina for 5 is the only combo I want with this

muted olive
#

kayle w shurima sounds nice

#

idk if kai'sa is the move but big stats + multiple keywords never fails

#

maybe not tho bc kayle can just end the game on her own so probably pick a more supporting champ than kai'sa to pair with

#

aatrox & ryze are more interesting to theory r n

#

aatrox could be demacia but could also be something spicy like ionia or targon

#

shurima could work too since it has good target access through strikes & vulnerable

#

idk just so many ways you can go since you can use any darkin

#

so you can really tailor your deck in a lot of diff ways imo

#

like SI with a focus on dying/reviving so not only your taarosh wins the game but you'll always get aatrox back when needed w rekiindler/harrowing + other darkins provide sooo much value too

#

ayo LoR lookin' fun again

#

wait aatrox lissandra bigbrain

muted olive
slim jacinth
#

Oh thats kinda sick

gilded pike
#

since it doesn't say during your turn, I wonder if you could use this in vayne zed decently

night nova
#

This can be used to capture a high-value ephemeral unit

#

Or a high-value attacker

#

If this captures a shark, you get infinite sharks

#

Every time you swing, you get an extra copy of shark in the pool

#

Try to outlast infinite 3/1s

#

You have to kill every single ephemeral because each one comes with 15 extra damage

muted olive
gilded pike
#

well only the first attack each turn with blade dance

muted olive
#

slow this time bc lol 4-month long season but made it to masters using Aphelios Viktor

#

uses bar ofc

#

Seraphine Bar decks are better but Aph/Vik is fun

#

CICQCAIEGQAQGCOZAEAQGBADAECQIGAEAYCA4EQWFAAQCBQEFMDACAQEBEAQIBAMAIAQIGZBAIDAIHJCAMBQIDIOCICQGCJDGNFFMXA

#

list if anyone wants

night nova
#

Congrats

grave zodiac
#

wait so is corrupted scythe just becoming rhaast

#

or did you open 2

#

@muted olive I'm always 1 turn away from dropping a 16/16 xolani grrr

muted olive
#

Also ggs have to take phone call

grave zodiac
#

oh that's crazy

#

ggs

grave zodiac
#

yeah it's pretty nutty

gilded pike
#

lor really needs a postgame screenshot function

#

but 19 power kayle is fuckin hilarious

grave zodiac
#

What are you playing her with

#

I’ve tried Bard and Viego and they’re like a little@too slow@to@ramp@up

naive viper
#

Y'know

#

I'm surprised you somehow haven't accidentally pinged 4 ppl at once yet

gilded pike
#

I'm playing her with bard, it's hit or miss

slim jacinth
#

I guess it never misses

gilded pike
#

tbh idk what to play her with since you wanna attack with a lot of boosted units to get her powered up quick

#

poppy maybe?

muted olive
#

kayle gwen felt good

grave zodiac
grave zodiac
#

@muted olive that new taliyah 3 drop is disgusting

muted olive
#

i forgot about that card. was watching mono shurima and din't think about that application

#

didn't*

#

p nice card

gilded pike
grave zodiac
#

on summon, summon hibernating rock bear, every time you summon a unit, reduce the cost of your highest landmark by 1

#

I've seen it in aggro lists and midrange lists now and it has been putting in work

gilded pike
#

oh right

grave zodiac
#

it has some wonky interactions

#

like with the 1 drop squirrel

#

the landmark you summon off it gets reducded by 1 off its own summon

gilded pike
#

I'm not surprised, after stuff like Quinn's valor eating that vulnerable landmark

grave zodiac
#

there's also synergy with the 4 drop that pops landmarks, you end up with double rockbear turn 5

#

shit is so gross

gilded pike
#

you think she could go in turbo thrall?

grave zodiac
#

no idea, havent touhed thralls in a hot minute

#

probably could though

muted olive
#

Ryze might be mega busted when you think about it. Can't decide what the best pairing is yet. Leaning towards Ionia but Freljord or Shadow Isles could be good also

gilded pike
#

I'm like fairly sure when you run him at least you don't run him to win with exodia, just as a supporting engine

muted olive
#

That's an option if you want his region for tellstones & draw power, but I do think the exodia thing is legit since it feels fairly hard to stop

gilded pike
#

man there's really people who are playing elise ryze in rated

#

now acolyte turbo, that's where it's at

gilded pike
#

worlds chat be like

gilded pike
#

@muted olive time is a flat circle

#

ionia tlc is back

muted olive
#

LOL

#

the more things change, the more they stay the same in loR

gilded pike
#

unironically though I kinda wanna try io/fj in some combination cause recall + buried in ice actually sounds really good rn

grave zodiac
#

the 3 bottom ones deserved it

#

but what card is the first one again

#

oh wtf lol

gilded pike
#

acolyte turbo was unironically the best deck on the ladder, it was so hard to beat

#

honestly it still might be fine cause you unironically didn't want to see reliquary that early

muted olive
#

Yeah idk if that's hard enough nerf for acolytes

#

But I like the hotfix bc I legit wasn't about to touch ranked after I hit masters(d3 r n)

faint drift
#

are any cards in the Foundation Set still seeing play?

#

I have Xbox Game Pass so was just curious

gilded pike
#

ye a ton of cards

#

there's a ton of classic staples like most of the aggro cards, elise, fleetfeather tracker, mystic shot, etc

naive nebula
#

Holy shit they completely butchered Ionian Tellstones wtf

#

That's an absurd nerf

muted olive
#

Yeah card is donezo

gilded pike
#

tbh it needed to die

#

probably still got some decent uses, but it's not auto include at least

grave zodiac
#

the current state of this game pensivecowboybread

gilded pike
#

man vayne makes me hate this game lmao

#

demacia honestly feels like the worst region to play against (even compared to ionia/other elusives) between so many high value units and free attacks

muted olive
#

Yeah something's wrong when elite mono Demacia can perform well bc that deck is about as braindead as it gets

muted olive
#

test

grave zodiac
#

.

muted olive
#

.4

gilded pike
#

thank FUCK

grave zodiac
#

oh nice

#

@muted olive

gilded pike
muted olive
#

Pro

gilded pike
#

fuck lmao

muted olive
#

decimate topdeck

gilded pike
#

ngl this deck still feels really strong

#

emperor's deck who muugu

gilded pike
#

jesus I nearly lost here actually

#

if they had a second unto dusk

#

I didn't think I would nearly die from 12 life after they already attacked

wispy latch
#

im so out of touch with this game again

#

they make cards too fast for me

grave zodiac
#

Better player wins

gilded pike
#

jesus christ what are the chances

muted olive
#

lmfao

naive nebula
#

Picked runeterra back up. That Leona/Kat deck is kinda crazy

#

You just kinda shut them down and hit them with massive beaters every turn

muted olive
#

Here you go, bro. Fanart of your fav @grave zodiac

grave zodiac
#

bro really trying to go the yuri route

muted olive
#

Nah, I was just scrolling LoR reddit and saw that lmao

naive nebula
#

The best feeling in this game is not blocking lethal and burst speed pinging them

#

Sure dude, I'll take 25, but you take 2 first and you've got 1 left

gilded pike
#

ah the infamous ezreal sera player

naive nebula
#

I'm playing Ekko/Jinx and it's so fun to just tap them down with hexite, get excited, or mystic shot

#

It's also the classic Viego atrocity play

#

Ekko/Jinx is actually so insane tho

#

They were right when they said the deck has no bad MUs as long as you're the better player

naive nebula
#

Man fuck Pantheon

#

But this felt so good to grab the win here

gilded pike
#

this deck is fire

#

there's so much predict in this deck that you can craft every draw

naive nebula
#

Yeah it's actually insane

#

You can just guarantee you draw your outs

#

And then you just absolver them

gilded pike
#

yeah I never realized the value of absolver on a go-wide board until I used it to just game a deck by going that wide

naive nebula
#

Absolver is so good. You just buff a guy and then Ekko does 7

gilded pike
#

chronobreak is just bonkers too

naive nebula
#

Oh yeah, Chronobreak is nuts

gilded pike
#

anyone know how much time is left in the season? I might unironically climb to masters

naive nebula
#

3 days

gilded pike
#

fuck really? gotta actually grind then lol

naive nebula
#

Yeah

muted olive
unborn knot
#

teemo caitlyn traps is so fun

unborn knot
#

these two cards right here

#

so much goddamn synergy

gilded pike
#

chronobreak vs reckoning GachiGASM

gilded pike
#

I tried switching off ekko jinx for like 10 games and went on a massive losing streak, it's clearly a sign

grave zodiac
naive nebula
#

This is an awesome way to do competitive moving forward

#

Gauntlet has been replaced by the daily rumble, a daily micro tournament of 1 of 5 formats

#

Winning them gets you rewards and points to the open

#

Opens are every other month, no fee to participate, and comes with way more points

#

THE LADDER WILL CONTRIBUTE TO YOUR POINTS TOWARDS REGIONALS EVERY SEASON NOW

#

So you can quality by any combination of consistently good at the ladder, consistently good at daily tournaments, or placing in opens

#

If you win an open, you're immediately qualified for worlds, but you can also qualify via points

#

Oh and rewards for however you go about accumulating points

#

Additionally, they're gonna be partnering with community tournaments and possibly giving out awards/points for those too

#

This is like the perfect system for this?

gilded pike
#

who the fuck runs this in pirate aggro?

naive nebula
#

Dude I literally lost to that exact same guy earlier

#

Same card too

#

It just blew me out of the game

grave zodiac
#

Papi Gelpapi just taking all y’all asses

gilded pike
#

what fucks me up the most is that I'm playing around fervor with get excited

#

and just holding ekko for this shit

#

so this is just a correct play then I get punished with ghetto mystic shot

naive nebula
#

Yeah pretty much

#

On you for playing correctly

#

God I would not be playing any champions within quietus range rn

#

Lemme just kill your Azir for 1

gilded pike
#

when is this card going to 1 or less power

#

you still have the azir problem but this thing is clearly too strong removal for 1 mana

muted olive
gilded pike
#

not like you're triggering reputation in this deck lmao

naive nebula
#

Kat has so many buggy interactions with SI stuff wow

#

Eternal Dancers goes infinite with her

#

And she doesn't work right with ephemeral

muted olive
#

at this point, it's intended

#

also kat's just kinda broken tbh. she's probably out first wave of rotation

#

current design makes her giga frustrating to play against if you can't deal with her the turn she's dropped

naive nebula
#

Kat went from worst champ in the game to the outright best

#

There's not really a way to make her fair that either doesn't make her immediately unplayable or insane

gilded pike
#

I feel like that's less due to kat and more that most of the broken champs got nerfed real hard

#

not to say she's not really strong, but there's no champ I'd call particularly broken atm

#

I have a lot more frustration with cards like quietus and opulent foyer

naive nebula
#

I've switched to playing the deck for now

#

It's just outright the best deck

#

I think kat has too many strong tools surrounding her, but her design is inherently unhealthy

#

She's either answered immediately or you rally every turn (sometimes multiple times)

gilded pike
#

I think the bigger problem is that gwen kat has so many tools that you can reliably get to that point, quietus being the most egregious example

#

foyer is not only a stalling tool but it serves as scaling and something to use with rally abuse

naive nebula
#

True. But there's also stuff like if you let them rally with eternal Dancers out and a dead Kat (something you've gotta do to win) you lose the game

#

Like outright lose

#

Because they can attack forever from that point

#

I know it's a 6 mana situation, but it's an infinite

gilded pike
#

I feel like I've lost long before that idk

naive nebula
#

Probably

#

The deck kills fast

gilded pike
#

not really fast but you know you've lost fast

#

if they've stalled out enough you're fucked

#

hallow interaction with rally + gwen being gwen just is so hard to deal with already

naive nebula
#

True. Deck does feel genuinely too good

#

Not unbeatable but it can do everything

gilded pike
#

doing everything is more or less it yeah

naive nebula
#

It's one of the fairer top decks, but it's tough

gilded pike
#

I think kat will be getting the nerf especially cause she's in 2 top meta decks rn but idk what they wanna hit with her

#

maybe putting blade's edge on level up back to 1 mana?

naive nebula
#

Maybe she returns after the full combat now?

#

So she can get hit if she's not big enough?

#

But I could see the blade's edge revert too

grave zodiac
#

Feel like it was kind of troll to let hallowed trigger multiple times in 1 turn

naive nebula
#

Yeah that too tbh

gilded pike
#

idt they'd want to change that since gwen is balanced as far as winrate goes and they let stuff like azirelia happen

#

that said again a foyer nerf is to change it to "the first time you gain the attack token each turn" nyaruhodo

grave zodiac
#

I meant moreso like it’s just asking to be abused

#

I know it’s not blade dance level of stupid but that already showed how strong multi attacking mechanics are if abused

#

Also Gwen was like good on release and all they’ve done is buff her non-stop or release good support cards for her lol

gilded pike
#

yeah idk why they're so intent on gwen being bonkers

muted olive
#

nerf? kat will be getting rotated LOL

muted olive
# gilded pike maybe putting blade's edge on level up back to 1 mana?

the rally is the issue. blade's edge is icing on cake. idt hitting that part of kat would really do anything outside of ppl using the blade less bc it costs mana now. not saying it's not impactful but it wouldn't really solve the issue of kat being an on-demand rally that cheats ephemeral and abuses multi attacks

gilded pike
#

idk I feel like there's a way to get her more balanced out without making her useless again or having her op

#

but maybe you're right, it does say a lot when shunpo has been a useless card for 95% of its lifespan up until now, unless I missed some noxus deck that ran it before

gilded pike
#

let's goooooooooo first time masters

gilded pike
muted olive
naive nebula
#

Season was supposed to end tonight, but it's going to next week now

muted olive
#

komi do i have you added on LoR btw @gilded pike

gilded pike
#

idk what's your name on lor

muted olive
#

Lukio#NA1

gilded pike
#

oh I do have you added

naive nebula
#

I think I decided what I'd like a kat nerf to be

#

Make her level up "I've struck twice"

gilded pike
#

that sounds like it kills her

naive nebula
#

Probably

#

If she recalls on the first strike still, maybe not?

slim jacinth
#

Still does

#

Keep in mind it took a perfect archetype for Kat to see any play

naive nebula
#

Yeah true

#

But she's now too good

gilded pike
#

that's why I was suggesting lighter nerfs before

#

honestly just get rid of the interaction where she recalls and levels if ephemeral and maybe drop her power 1?

naive nebula
#

I could see it

gilded pike
#

and/or make the blade cost 1 still on level up

naive nebula
#

The real advantage is the rally

#

The blade is a bonus

gilded pike
#

yeah that's not the point though, the big point is you're going tempo negative for a repeatable rally and those two are supposed to balance each other out

#

she wasn't touched in the slightest before the blade buff because that's what made her a viable champ

naive nebula
#

Nah there's always been the talk that she was immediately good the second we got a good shell for her

gilded pike
#

I disagree since she got 2 straight buffs in a row, you could argue she was fine with the first blade's edge addition but I think the blade's edge is the key to her fitting into most decks

#

even with leona kat you can use it to clear chump blockers/threaten killing a unit that would normally be left with 1 hp

naive nebula
#

Oh and she was a 1 off in the masters lists that played deserter

#

Giving Viego an extra rally won you the game

naive nebula
#

HUGE GWEN

gilded pike
#

good ol rally + hallowed

grave zodiac
#

Snip snip

naive nebula
gilded pike
#

btw is losing more rp than you gain normal in masters

gilded pike
naive nebula
#

Ayy finally

gilded pike
#

nice

#

also same board and picture, great minds think alike

naive nebula
#

I rotate that one and the DnD board

#

Also, I might have discovered an insane tech for Kat/Gwen

naive nebula
#

Okay yeah my tech is working really well

#

Turn 5 win because it's just free damage

#

(Cut a phantom butler for a single shark chariot)

#

I'm honestly surprised I haven't seen this before

#

It just feels right

gilded pike
#

oh yeah I've seen this a bit before

#

I think you give up a bit of defense for a lot more pressure, so you make your aggro matchup worse but it helps a lot vs control and the likes

naive nebula
#

Yeah for sure. It's a minor tradeoff and sometimes it's a win more or doesn't do anything

#

But it makes slower decks have to answer things way faster than they'd like

naive nebula
#

Masters is almost all control, Ekko/Jinx, Cultists, and the mirror

#

I think this was the right call

gilded pike
#

I'm getting a weird amount of control too, yeah

naive nebula
#

Control is solid in higher ranks I guess

#

It's been tough here and there, but I'm sitting at 160 rn

#

Ryze is still a free win

#

But Yi/Karma is 50/50

#

That Seraphine deck is TOUGH

gilded pike
#

have you played against annie kat yet

naive nebula
#

Yeah, it's not the easiest maktchup, but it's possible if we're aggressive enough

#

So I think the chariot was the right call, because it's forcing opponents to either out-aggro us

naive nebula
#

Was briefly in the top 200

#

Went on a losing streak

#

Down to top 500, but that's still not bad

grave zodiac
naive nebula
#

The fucking odds they had it

#

3 goddamn mark of the isles

gilded pike
#

sometimes it really be like that

naive nebula
#

True. Sucks because it won them them the game

#

Leveling Kat really is just an immediate win

naive nebula
#

How fitting

grave zodiac
#

kat is now a 2/2

naive nebula
#

I feel like that doesn't do enough

grave zodiac
#

means quietis can kill it now

naive nebula
#

Since she's safe to trade with Hallowed

#

OH SHIT YOURE RIGHT

#

If anything, that centralizes the format to be the same deck more

#

I think this nerf isn't the right call tho

grave zodiac
naive nebula
#

Oh wait. That sucks now

grave zodiac
#

I like this change a lot now

naive nebula
#

It can't kill Braum and Azir, so that's good

#

I think it'll grow on me

grave zodiac
#

it works on things damaged now, keep in mind

naive nebula
#

But it misses stuff like Braum, Azir, and Veigar

#

Oh shit you're right

grave zodiac
#

so there's a room for playing into it now

naive nebula
#

Yeah actually I love that

grave zodiac
#

kayn needs 4 cultsists now

naive nebula
#

Good

grave zodiac
naive nebula
#

That's a huge nerf

#

Cultists is probably dead

#

(Which is good considering it's the best deck)

#

Like yeah Kat/Gwen is destroying the ladder

#

But if you look at top decks in masters, it's ALL cultists

#

Well that and Yi/Karma

slim jacinth
#

Yi is good?

grave zodiac
#

goodbye eye

naive nebula
grave zodiac
#

jinx spell is now 3 damage

naive nebula
#

Especially now that he's got the Hallowed landmark

naive nebula
naive nebula
grave zodiac
#

proro cannon finally costs 1 mana

naive nebula
#

Thank God

grave zodiac
naive nebula
#

That's not enough for her tho

slim jacinth
naive nebula
#

Nice enough I guess

naive nebula
grave zodiac
#

illaoi got a 1 atk increase

#

tentacle smash got -1 cost

#

ornn is now a 5/5

#

so brej can draw him I guess

#

if any equipment you equip to him has 1 power then he levels for free basically on his first swing

naive nebula
#

Oh yo illaoi might be viable again

#

I can make my Ornn/Jax deck work too

grave zodiac
#

this mao buff is doodoo but eh

#

meta now?

naive nebula
#

Okay yeah Jax is tier 1 now

#

Ornn Jax is too good

grave zodiac
#

pls kayle buff

naive nebula
#

Yeah, I'm theorying Ornn/Jax

#

Although I do think Katt/Gwen doesn't change

#

Ornn/Jax can theoretically grind them out tho

grave zodiac
#

arent these insane buffs

naive nebula
grave zodiac
#

@gilded pike

naive nebula
#

Lissandra is probably good but thralls is dead

#

Ya know, maybe I need to start playing Gwen/Zedd/Ahri

#

I think red Gwen stays unchanged, but Ornn/Jax and Gwen/Ionia is good af

grave zodiac
naive nebula
#

YO WHAT

gilded pike
#

about fuckin time

naive nebula
#

I lied, Yi/Karma is the best deck

#

THATS AN INSANE BUFF

grave zodiac
#

holyyyyyyyyyyy

naive nebula
#

ACTUALLY RIDICULOUS

grave zodiac
gilded pike
#

holy shit that's a huge buff too

#

I think lissandra's buff is kind of a placebo lowkey

naive nebula
#

Jesus Christ

#

Lissandra's buff isn't enough

#

Thralls got slaughtered a while back

gilded pike
#

you need to revert 1 of the 2 nerfs she got before with the watcher cause that's the wincon

naive nebula
#

I think Shyvana's buff isn't enough imo

#

But it is sorta scary

#

That yi buff is ABSURD THO

gilded pike
#

well yi still has to strike but this makes him actually reasonable

slim jacinth
#

Whats the buff to Yi?

naive nebula
#

Yi/Karma is tearing up masters as is

#

The deck is top 3 decks in masters imo

gilded pike
#

shyvana buff is so fuckin huge

naive nebula
#

It is

#

But I dunno what fury looks like

#

I do think the Ornn/Jax buffs made that deck massively better too

grave zodiac
gilded pike
#

this was very necessary

naive nebula
#

Kayle is a lot better, but still not good

grave zodiac
#

idk if this is a buff or nerf

#

seems like a nerf

#

hahahahah

gilded pike
#

this is the region that can protect him, but protecting vs vile feast et al sounds like a pain

#

might serve a similar role to Zoe now where you have him as a threat but he's closer to a follower

naive nebula
#

This is HUGE

#

Hate Spike might replace Quietus in decks that can afford it

grave zodiac
#

oh wtf

#

new cards too

#

Nora hgnhhhh

#

viego

#

gwen

slim jacinth
#

... why is that in Shurima?

#

Shurima is not a control region

naive nebula
#

This is huge

naive nebula
#

It's got a counter spell, it's got the obelisk card, it's got all sorts of control shit

#

Ionia is the control region, but Shurima is second in control

slim jacinth
#

The control region is Freljord then Shadow Isles then Ionia

#

Shurima is not even in the top 3

naive nebula
#

I'd disagree

#

Freljord is ramp

#

Shadow Isles is control in the same way black is in MTG

#

Ionia is the closest to control

#

It goes:
-Ionia
-Shurima
-Shadow Isles

slim jacinth
#

Ionia has literally no kill spells

#

Or AoE

#

Freljord has the best AoE, good healing, and the best control payoffs

#

Shadow Isles has the good kill spells

#

Ionia is fine, but its not the closest to control, thats Shadow Isles

naive nebula
#

Ionia doesn't need kill spells

slim jacinth
#

And Shurima is even further away, because while it has a couple kill spells

naive nebula
#

It's got counters and bounces

slim jacinth
#

Its very poor at the actual killing

#

Countering spells is not something that is unique to control

naive nebula
#

It's not, yeah

slim jacinth
#

Bounces is something that tempo decks use, not control decks (usually)

#

Ionia is the tempo region

naive nebula
#

I'd disagree, but Ionia is a bit tempo, a bit control

slim jacinth
#

The only control deck I can think of that was running Ionia is Karma/Ez and only because of Karma

naive nebula
#

When Ionia is good it's either a midrangedeck or a hard control deck

naive nebula
slim jacinth
#

Isnt the currently best control deck FTR?

#

And Ryze basically a troll deck?

naive nebula
#

Nope, masters is way different

#

Yi/Karma is the best control deck

#

Although ftr is up there

#

And Ryze is mixed, but Ryze control is a real deck

slim jacinth
#

No, according to runeterra.ar, FTR is also the best control deck in masters

#

Swain Norra is second

#

Yi is ... 5th?

naive nebula
#

I feel like that's not up to date

slim jacinth
#

Last 7 days

naive nebula
#

I see way more Yi than anything else

#

Swain/Norra has fallen off hard

slim jacinth
#

But even sorting by last two days

#

Karma has a 0.89% pick rate

#

Yi/Karma

naive nebula
#

Ftr is probably better, but it's not as played

slim jacinth
#

Swain Norra has almost triple that at 2.05%

naive nebula
#

But Yi/Karma is really popular rn

slim jacinth
#

And FTR is more than triple that at 3.12%

#

... no its 0.89%

#

Its extremely unpopular

#

Well not extremely

naive nebula
#

I dunno, I feel like I see it a lot

slim jacinth
#

But FTR is the fourth-most played deck

#

YI/Karma is seventeenth

#

You probably ran into a small meta bubble

naive nebula
#

Probably, but I'm in top 300, so it's weird that it's kinda popular here and nowhere else

slim jacinth
#

Small sample size too

#

You might just have had an odd luck streak

naive nebula
#

True

naive nebula
#

Okay this deck is nuts

naive nebula
#

Season ends tomorrow right?

muted olive
#

idk but i thought new patch would be today

naive nebula
#

Is it not?

grave zodiac
#

It’s just the patch notes

naive nebula
#

Damn

gilded pike
#

ig they're doing that thing where they release the notes one day ahead

naive nebula
#

I found the next big deck starting tomorrow

#

Gwen/Illaoi

#

Your hallowed buffs the tentacle, which buffs Illaoi, which buffs Gwen

#

We even have rallies via Blood in the Water

muted olive
#

new patch out

#

illaoi feels nice

naive nebula
#

Remind me to try out Illaoi/Gwen and Ornn/Jax when I get home

muted olive
#

the spawn weapon (eye of god) kinda counterintuitive tho, bc if you have it equipped on illaoi, illaoi's spawn + self-buff triggers first then eye of god triggers, meaning you're losing out on 2 attack that way

naive nebula
#

I think Red Gwen is still gonna be the best deck, but I low-key feel like Illaoi/Gwen was slept on prior

muted olive
#

so you have to put the weapon on another unit and have that unit attack before illaoi if you want illaoi to gain the extra 2 attack from the weapon trigger

naive nebula
#

Hallowed buffs the tentacle, and that buffs Illaoi and Gwen

#

Although Black Flame Illaoi might be better

#

Really comes down to if SI feels better than Ionia I guess (I'd say it does)

#

Like black flame is nice, and it got me to top 500 in masters

#

But honestly? The card feels like it's a win more option

#

You only win with black flame if it was a game you were gonna win without it

#

Never once did I drop the card and go "oh yeah I was losing but I'm safe now"

naive nebula
#

It grows on its own that way

gilded pike
naive nebula
#

Ayy nice

#

I got Thaliyah

gilded pike
#

nice

naive nebula
#

Ornn/Jax feels really strong

#

I still think Illaoi/Gwen is good too, but I haven't quite gotten it working yet

gilded pike
#

I still imagine illaoi/vayne is where it's at

naive nebula
#

I think there's more synergy in SI

naive nebula
#

Starting to come together

#

I'm thinking Midrange as a grindier deck is working

#

You wanna be murdering turn 5-6

naive nebula
#

As expected, Red Gwen is exactly the same

naive nebula
#

Went on a losing streak, but it feels like the new SI card is much worse in practice than theory

grave zodiac
naive nebula
#

Yeah this deck is fun as hell

#

Dude totally had the game but then proceeded to lose by letting me level TF

gilded pike
#

highkey I forget tf can level sometimes just cause I see it so rarely

#

I've thrown a game like that in the past too

naive nebula
#

Yeah if he levels you just win

naive nebula
#

Lmao this is funny as hell

naive nebula
naive nebula
#

I really hope the Ryze deck falls off soon

#

It's solitaire where neither player gets to play because they're trying to grind you to a half for their wincon

#

Too slow of games and no interaction

gilded pike
#

I'm still amazed this deck was considered dog shit at one point now there's this

naive nebula
#

I think it's marginally better, but I also think it's new toy syndrome

#

I still think the deck isn't great

#

Also it suffers in faster mus

muted olive
#

Deck is annoying to play against

#

Actually frustrating if you're on control and can't efficiently interact w the 2-mana landmarks (technically 4 total bc delve costs 2 spell mana but refill spell mana is crazy)

naive nebula
naive nebula
#

I feel like Tristana has really skyrocketed into just being the best champ

naive nebula
#

Yeah I'm sick of Ryze

#

Can we nerf him again so I stop seeing him on ladder?

naive nebula
#

Ryze's winrate is negative again. Good

#

I've started playing lurkers for the first time, and this deck is actually really fun

#

Seems strong rn too

gilded pike
#

stabilizing against lurk ❤️

naive nebula
#

Dark Jayce?

#

Deck is good as hell rn

grave zodiac
#

is that the name of the deck cause lol

#

just sounds weird like the dark brandon shit

naive nebula
#

Sometimes it called Dark Heimer

gilded pike
#

I just call it Arcane Control

naive nebula
#

That works too lmao

#

I mean, I still call Red Gwen "Two Ladies"

naive nebula
#

Chamber on Reksai is funny af

naive nebula
naive nebula
#

Lmao fuck ryze players

naive nebula
#

It's kinda bullshit Ryze doesn't level if he dies

muted olive
#

???

#

what

naive nebula
#

Woops meant Pyke

#

Still bullshit

#

Pyke will connect for 15 and he won't get the progress on death

gilded pike
#

isn't that the same as most champs

naive nebula
#

It is for "I've Seen"

#

Pyke is just "allied Pykes have"

#

Which should count because the strike still happens

slim jacinth
#

I think the reason is so that his effect doesnt go off

#

But it is wack

naive nebula
#

Yeah, it's probably that. So that he doesn't take their board with him on death

gilded pike
#

riot really does need more consistency on their rulings

naive nebula
#

Definitely. There's things that need to be clarified

naive nebula
#

The worst part of losing to Ryze is that they can misplay an entire turn beforehand and sit on their 4/6 with spellshield and all the runes and you still lose

#

Like you can see the whole thing on board, you just can't prevent it

naive nebula
#

The time and place to concede was 2 feel the rushes ago

gilded pike
grave zodiac
#

I see some pretty neat cards here

naive nebula
#

Yeah Serene and Badgerbear both stand out as big

#

Marai is probably pretty good. And Priestess is interesting

#

No clue if Jayce runs Formula

gilded pike
#

it looks like it slots into jayce heimer perfect

grave zodiac
#

actually I straightup like everything

#

pretty good batch

gilded pike
#

if you can resolve sky-singer, that looks insanely scary

naive nebula
#

Yeah if sky singer makes it, your deck gets NASTY

#

Rounded up means stuff like 1 mana nopeify, 2 mana deny, 3 mana attrocity and all sorts of free spells

#

Karma/Yi might be real

gilded pike
#

eve getting buffs is real nice, atrocity to slow is probably low-key overdue

naive nebula
#

0 Ryze nerfs sucks

#

But the nerf to attrocity is fair

#

Leona package looks dead tbh

#

On the bright side, outside of Ryze, lurk lost all it's bad matchups

naive nebula
#

Yeah Formula is nuts

gilded pike
#

didn't realize the patch was already out

naive nebula
#

Yeah, they come a day ater notes now

naive nebula
#

Nah elites is where it's at

naive nebula
#

So what's the moves for the open?

#

It's highlander so we're really just gonna have to settle on value piles

gilded pike
#

highlander
seraphine time

naive nebula
#

I'm actually leaning towards a Seraphine/ezreal/vi/Jayce/Heimer SI value pile as one of my picks

#

Calling it the JP server special

#

The other two rn are probably pirates with tf/mf/kat/draven and mono-shurima

#

Turns out you can just play all the ascended and one of all the good cards and the deck still sorta works

#

I'm most confident in the seraphine list but having only one Seraphine sucks

#

I'll probably toy with the aggro later and possibly just force it to be scouts (that's what I'm playing in diamond 1 rn, free wins), but noxus feels too good to give up

#

I'll probably hit masters tomorrow after work, and I'll play all three lists for a bit there

gilded pike
#

is it a typical gauntlet format

#

the sera control list is the only one I'd know for sure lol

naive nebula
#

Outside of highlander, it's typical gauntlet, yeah

#

So finding two other lists to fill in the pz value gaps is gonna be hard

gilded pike
#

I feel like aggro is gonna be in there too somewhere

naive nebula
#

For aggro, I'm just looking at all the good noxus/bilge cards in a deck

naive nebula
#

Did a little testing of all three last night and they work, but there's no consistency

#

I'm sure they're fine against other highlander decks

naive nebula
#

So turns out the interaction between Scouts and Opulent Foyer is silly

#

Scouting procs foyer as if it's a proper attack

gilded pike
#

ye I don't see why it'd be any different from kata

#

that was another strength to quinn gwen

naive nebula
#

Ye, it's neat af

naive nebula
#

God they really need to nerf Ryze to unplayability

#

Love 20 minute games where it feels like my decisions don't matter

#

Make the refill 2 mana, make rune prison cost 3, and only have him make a single delve a turn

gilded pike
naive nebula
#

They should do that too, but I think 2 mana/free rune prison is part of the issue

#

That and Ryze being a 4/6 with spellshield

#

Honestly, I think the biggest way to weaken him would be bump it back to 2 and make him only generate a copy of the card per Ryze

#

But he shouldn't have spellshield imo

#

If you wanna play a control deck, just play FTR or Jayce/Heimer or Lux like God intended

gilded pike
#

honestly I think they're just gonna do it lissandra style at this point

#

where it's not an instant win so it just becomes unviable

naive nebula
#

I'm totally fine with that

naive nebula
#

Okay this is good

#

Love BMing Ryze decks

naive nebula
#

Did it again

#

Annie/Jhin is free rn

naive nebula
slim jacinth
#

I really hope rotation flops so hard they undo it within a month ngl

muted olive
#

huh

#

thought there'd be more

slim jacinth
#

We dont have an official announcement yet

#

These are just the ones we know of so far

naive nebula
#

They do still plan to support the expanded format

#

Just no straight to expanded cards (which judging by MTG, is probably a good thing)

slim jacinth
#

Oh no they dont

#

It wont even have permanent ranked, remember?

#

Besides, giving cards to it is basically neccessary, historic got a lot better with the anthologies

#

Otherwise its just worse balanced standard

naive nebula
#

I think they've mentioned permanent ranked might happen

#

And they have said they'll balance for it

#

So if a card is too good, it'll get a nerf

gilded pike
#

I'm a bit worried about a lack of balance for one format or the other just cause in the past it feels like they've struggled to keep up in some metas

naive nebula
#

Yeah true, but if they do it right and support both formats, that could be really good

#

No straight to expanded cards is probably a good thing so they don't push something super hard

#

And having expanded be stronger with standard more unique stuff could be cool

#

Rotating vile feast is HUGE for standard

#

I'll definitely be interested in seeing what they do from here

#

Also, they confirmed that Vlad will be getting a new card (hence the rotation)

#

So that opens it up to champs getting new versions

slim jacinth
#

Not that it might happen

#

Which is Riot speak for "yeah, were ruling it out unless the backlash gets too bad"

naive nebula
#

One of the designers tweeted it was likely eternal will get a normal ranked mode

slim jacinth
#

They also said theyll only rarely balance it

#

... did they?

#

Thats news to me

#

They also didnt confirm that Vlad will be getting a new card, they said that they might rework Vlad

#

Which is Riot speak for "probably not"

naive nebula
#

Also this is from the article. Looks like eternal will have its own ranked queue and seasons

#

And that Standard will be the go to mode for events, but eternal isn't off the table

slim jacinth
#

It will have ranked mode sometimes

#

Its like what wizards wanted to do with historic originally

#

Before the backlash forced them to make it permanent

naive nebula
#

I'm sure they'll settle on permanent based on how this is worded

#

Hell, the next open is highlander

#

They're probably just trying various things

slim jacinth
#

I expect that we will have to bully them into making it permanent

#

They said they dont want to split queues which is why its not permanent in the AMA after all

#

Regardless, I hope the damage from rotation is at the very least minimal, or ideally that they prevent the damage by undoing it

#

I dont want a repeat of Duelyst 1

naive nebula
#

I think rotation could be fine if both formats are supported and whatnot

#

Although I'll just play expanded anyways

slim jacinth
#

Thats the big "if"

#

But if that was the goal, why wouldnt they make the eternal format the standard one, and make the rotating format a curated one that gets less support since it needs less, like EternalTCG does?

naive nebula
#

I guess they wanna copy the MTG "standard is the entry point" system

#

Well hearthstone does it too

gilded pike
#

I mean historic on mtg had the same problem and even wizards caved eventually with that

#

I'm sure it won't be too hard to get permanent ranked for eternal

slim jacinth
#

And eh, given the fact that they specified being worried about split queues

#

Im not sure its gonna be that easy

wispy latch
naive nebula
#

Just played the meanest game of Lurkers ever
Opened: Rek'sai, The Fearsome 1 drop and triple call the swarm
T1 1 drop pass
T2 swing and call the swarm the rek'sai
T3 Snapjaw Swarm I made and hit the OTHER REKSAI ON TOP

#

They scooped there

naive nebula
#

Top 300 US baby

grave zodiac
#

Yo we have a pro in the house

naive nebula
#

Lurk is also just easy af this season

#

You outrace elites, jayce and Ryze and outvalue annie

naive nebula
#

Computer show me single combat

#

They didn't have it

#

GG

naive nebula
#

Why is the open Bo1?

naive nebula
#

This deck kinda fucks tho

#

Varus is a great option because he's consistent

gilded pike
#

or just wanted to try a new format for more casual players

naive nebula
#

Settled on cultists because it wins the seraphine matchup (more consistent) and is faster than anything but pure aggro

#

Guess I'm not playing Jhin/Annie or Seraphine Value

naive nebula
#

Maybe it's because it's highlander or what, but this open has brought out so many people who just don't fucking concede on a loss

#

3/5 games I've played so far have been over 3 turns before I won because they wouldn't scoop

slim jacinth
#

New expansion is called "Glory in Navori"

#

Champs are Samira, Sett and (seemingly) Jack the Winner?

naive nebula
#

Damn, was hoping to see Sylas on there

#

Well he's probably coming still

#

Sylas and Set had their keywords leaked at the same time

#

Leaked Keywords were:
-Brash (Sett)
-Riftwalk
-Deathless
-Seeking (Sylas?)

slim jacinth
#

More like belongs in the trash

#

Might just be way ahead of time

naive nebula
#

Seeking is a shitty keyword name, so let's hope it's just the internal

#

Iirc Hallowed has a dumb internal one too, something like "Glowing"?

wispy latch
#

hopefully samira is something nice for noxus

naive nebula
#

Is she noxus? I thought she was Shurima

gilded pike
#

I think she was born in Shurima but lives in noxus

#

noxus has a lot of people from other regions cause it accepts everyone as long as they're willing to fight, etc

naive nebula
#

Part of Jack's art was revealed

#

That's definitely an Ionian arena so he's fighting Sett

wispy latch
grave zodiac
# naive nebula

I think jack's lore is that he was a nobody who accepted a deal with tahm to never lose in fights again so he's a weird inclusion as a champ

naive nebula
grave zodiac
#

I don't think we have another champ in LoL who openly accepted a deal with any of the demons besides swain

wispy latch
#

nilah

grave zodiac
#

nilah doesnt have a deal with the demon of joy

#

she just uses its power

wispy latch
#

sounds like a deal

grave zodiac
#

which has negative "side effects" for her

wispy latch
#

i have no idea i just figured its a deal

grave zodiac
#

it's basically a naruto situation

#

if you count that as a deal then yeah i guess

wispy latch
#

ah

#

id say it sorta is but would be incorrect to say its the same as swain

grave zodiac
naive nebula
#

Ah makes sense

grave zodiac
#

but tahm feeds off greed so xd

wispy latch
#

really hope they flesh out the demons more especially whenever they revisit nocturne

naive nebula
#

Could be cool to see how they tie all the lore together for Sett and Jack

#

So I guess Jack and Sett will be the intended pair

grave zodiac
#

they sort of revised it with nilah and yone release but idk how much you can flesh them out since they're supposed to be like giga op

#

power levels are sort of out of whack but eh

wispy latch
#

tbh i just want an excuse for more swain lore

naive nebula
#

I wonder who you're supposed to pair Samira with then?

grave zodiac
#

can't believe samira isn't going to be a reputation unit

#

the keyword was practically made for her

#

she's also tied to both regions that care about reputation lol

wispy latch
#

really wouldvr made sense

naive nebula
#

She could be a reputation unit

#

There's nothing ruling that out

naive nebula
#

Sett is today's reveal (8 Ionian cards, one creates 2 other cards)

gilded pike
#

punch daddy >w<

naive nebula
#

Looks like Samira is Sett's intended pair

grave zodiac
#

The elusive 2 drop is going to be annoying

grave zodiac
#

I can feel it

#

Bout is built like me irl

naive nebula
#

Yeah accountant is gonna be annoying

slim jacinth
#

Honestly I think accountant is gonna be pretty mediocre

#

Shed have to hit twice just to be ok

naive nebula
#

Tag Out is gonna be good I think

slim jacinth
#

Depends on how good coins are

naive nebula
#

It's 1 to 4 mana to do good things

slim jacinth
#

Baseline its just worse will

#

That maybe allows you to bank mana

#

But I assume you get other ways of spending coin

naive nebula
#

I mean, refilling mana is ALWAYS strong

slim jacinth
#

Yeah but you have to build it up

#

Especially since only at 2 coins does it refill at all

grave zodiac
#

wait what

slim jacinth
#

Coins cost 1 mana and refille 1* the number of coins

naive nebula
#

They stack tho

#

The price doesn't go up

slim jacinth
#

Ye

#

But that means you have to get at least 2 coins to refill at all

naive nebula
#

Worst case scenario it's a recall that discounts your next spell

slim jacinth
#

No, worst case scenario its a 5 mana will of Ionia

grave zodiac
#

oh I see

#

didnt notice the cost

gilded pike
#

wait that doesn't say spell mana

naive nebula
#

Nope

gilded pike
#

monka

#

shame you can't do it like mtg and "untap" lands to cast massive spells, but that shit sounds really scary for unit spam

gilded pike
#

sett looks nuts, you can level him up before playing him too

#

show stopper seems like powerful removal but I kinda wanna try him with heimer for spell mana shenanigans and use the coins to make turrets?

slim jacinth
#

Place your Bets looks insane

#

Baseline is pseudo 4 mana draw 2

#

Which is already entirely playable

#

And its in Ionia which lacks card draw that isnt cycling

gilded pike
#

well deep med

#

it doesn't proc tf but it's essentially a better draw a lot of the time

slim jacinth
#

Not in a unit-heavy deck tbh

#

But fair, I forgor that card

#

Still, if coin as a deck is going to work

#

That card is why

naive nebula
#

Yeah Bets is silly

grave zodiac
#

Wow he looks wild

muted olive
naive nebula
#

Bro!!

#

Not only is he slow playing, he lost like 8 turns ago

#

I hate when people refuse to just fucking scoop

#

Like there's no reason to hold me hostage for 15 minutes to play out your loss. You won't topdeck the answer

#

FINALLY won

#

Dude spent the last 3 turns frostbiting Gwen because he ran out of options

#

This is masters, you can just scoop and move on

gilded pike
naive nebula
#

Variety day

#

I like the two cool predict cards

slim jacinth
#

Wait

#

Isnt Carved bladetwirler just the 1-cost augment with +1 mana and +2 health?

naive nebula
#

And quick attack

slim jacinth
#

The 1-cost augment also has quick attack

naive nebula
#

Oh so it does

grave zodiac
#

Secret keeper is going to be very fun to@build@around

naive nebula
#

Definitely

#

You play him in some zilean stuff for the sake of sometimes hitting level 2 Asol

gilded pike
#

not being hit by pokey stick and mystic shot seems like a pretty big advantage compared to the 1-drop augment

#

and being fae gives it some type bonuses alongside naturally fitting with other created cards in that archetype

naive nebula
#

Yeah it's probably pretty decent

naive nebula
#

Samira package stuff

#

No clue what Brash is, but it's interesting her package is split into 2 regions

#

Brash is reverse fearsome

#

Units with 3 or less health can't block it

grave zodiac
#

I literally cant tell if these are playable or not lol

naive nebula
#

I'm sure one or two will end up in pirates

#

I think Brazen Buccaneer is for sure