The beanstalk deck would probably be Sultai or 4c yeah
#Magic the Gathering
golden plover
twilit canyon
do it when you have a 2nd omni so that you lose to their gameplan from how long it took. or how lucky you were
golden plover
Actually the Omni deck didn't have stock up or star charts hmm
inland folio
like u could deceit away the abuelos
golden plover
The Omni deck would have a lot more selection now
inland folio
and draw a card off beanstalk
golden plover
Yeah they'd probably be doing that
inland folio
[[up the beanstalk]]
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inland folio
oh this isnt opt
golden plover
But hey, beanstalk and the rest of the slaughter list deserved it
inland folio
highk expected that
golden plover
So whatever
twilit canyon
free beans
golden plover
Nah beans was a mistake
inland folio
if this was legal dudes would just be evoking shit and fucking you up with infinite draw
golden plover
Yeah, god can you imagine beans with the evoke elementals
It was bad enough with the overlords and they had to take another 3 turns to do shit
inland folio
well other than balemurk theyre aslo just way more expensive no?
golden plover
Yeah but they got you immediate value and a draw
So you didn't care when you were just outvaluing them all late game
inland folio
tbf youd also get that with evoke elemtnals now
inland folio
but its just way faster
glad peak
I remember people debating on whether or not play Vivi at all in the deck
glad peak
And then wild ride got discovered
inland folio
idr any of the overlords being better value as a hardcast over time other than the white one
[[boilerplates]]
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Enchantment Creature — Avatar Horror
Impending 4—
(If you cast this spell for its impending cost, it enters with four time counters and isn't a creature until the last is removed. At the beginning of your end step, remove a time counter from it.)
Whenever this permanent enters or attacks, it deals 4 damage to any target.
5/5
inland folio
oh this is like realer lethalit
glad peak
Overlord of boilerplate 
inland folio
than the white one
glad peak
That’s gonna be my title if I work in tech
inland folio
these all seem 10x worse than my guy balemurk tho
knotty ferry
What's the scooze raccoon
glad peak
The 2 mana guy who exiles a thing for 1 and gets bigger
glad peak
glad to see heavy play getting more and more recognition
it's a shame their sleeves are pretty trash
the rest of their offerings are great
knotty ferry
[[petrified Hamlet]]
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Land
When this land enters, choose a land card name.
Activated abilities of sources with the chosen name can't be activated unless they're mana abilities.
Lands with the chosen name have "
: Add 
."
: Add .
sleek ferry
More than likely you’re just declaring the basic fetches vs landfall
sleek ferry
Yeah
knotty ferry
I've seen different ones
twilit canyon
pick the one you assume they have in hand lol
sleek ferry
I mean cutting them off one is still kinda big
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sudden lava
twilit canyon
its also a check to see if someone is paying attention
sleek ferry
It’s a 50/50 shot
twilit canyon
catching someone out that isnt paying attention by playing the land and naming their fetch on board
knotty ferry
I feel like that's not reliable
sleek ferry
Also, remember, forcing them to fetch non optimally is a big win
twilit canyon
it can be
sleek ferry
Ig vs izzet you can name biblioplex
knotty ferry
Solar's favorite
sleek ferry
And vs azorius you can name either the white avatar land or the flying man land
knotty ferry
Does pro tour start on Saturday?
sleek ferry
Friday
tardy echo
@twilit canyon saw someone asking if oko would be ok back in legacy
sleek ferry
2pm on Friday, 1 pm on Saturday and Sunday
glad peak
for anyone looking to buy heavy play sleeves, a couple people and i tried, in different cons and different times of the year, have had multiple boxes where they were split out of the box, beware (of course we got them swapped but every vendor we bought from saw the same issue with a bunch of their boxes as well when trying to do a swap) 
sleek ferry
Day 1 is and day 2 are Swiss
knotty ferry
Ok
sleek ferry
Day 3 is untimed top cut
sleek ferry
Bo5 is no siding till g3 yeah
glad peak
Damn the professor dropping the f bomb gave me whiplash
Straight up just says fuck you at the camera
subtle sierra
Why is he flipping off the canera
glad peak
Because codex boxes are expensive
Not because of wotc or stores
Because of the buyers
subtle sierra
🚀
rigid scarab
Damn
I swear half of this man's videos are intentionally designed to be "play better cards" in disguise
zinc shard
huh... do you just use Tameshi to pick up MDFC you've played as lands?
subtle sierra
[[tameshi reality architect]]
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Legendary Creature — Moonfolk Wizard
Whenever one or more noncreature permanents are returned to hand, draw a card. This ability triggers only once each turn.
, Return a land you control to its owner's hand: Return target artifact or enchantment card with mana value X or less from your graveyard to the battlefield. Activate only as a sorcery.
2/3
subtle sierra
Also jwari disruption my beloved
fallow citrus
tameshi bounces an mdfc and replays lotus bloom
you just do that three or 4 times and win
actually only 3 times so you could win t3 with this easily
zinc shard
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sleek ferry
[[vibrant outburst]] has been so good
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glad peak
Tameshi belcher’s cool and all but usually means something’s off with the format
Actually nah interaction’s been going up in belcher decks so it’s not as bad but usually low interaction turbo combo decks are a sign that people are forgoing interaction for greed or combo
sudden lava
Wait, the decks are just like Keyforge?
subtle sierra
🥱
knotty ferry
OH YEAH I forgot to mention this but one guy had proxies for commander and he just made the art random anime girls 
subtle sierra
Mood swings is kinda old news
i looked at like 5 minutes of game play and it's isn't bad per se but i don't get the theme of moods?
tardy echo
OH YEAH I forgot to mention this but one guy had proxies for commander and he ju...
Many such cases
golden plover
golden plover
Who'dve guessed Izzet was 45% of the meta lol
knotty ferry
When is the next banlist scheduled for
golden plover
It's actually 48% counting Izzet Maestro. Dunno what that is tho
subtle sierra
tf is izzet maestro
golden plover
Apparently it's some form of combo deck
knotty ferry
[[sorceress schemes]]
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Sorcery
Return target instant or sorcery card from your graveyard or exiled card with flashback you own to your hand. Add .
Flashback 
(You may cast this card from your graveyard for its flashback cost. Then exile it.)
"The price for your meddling is death beyond death."
knotty ferry
Ultimecia-sama...
golden plover
No clue what it looks like tho
subtle sierra
is it just gnome into choco meteor thing
sleek ferry
izzet maestro is a 2c combo deck
knotty ferry
[[molten core maestro]]
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Creature — Goblin Bard
Menace
Opus — Whenever you cast an instant or sorcery spell, put a +1/+1 counter on this creature. If five or more mana was spent to cast that spell, add an amount of equal to this creature's power.
"My media? Fury and flame."
2/2
sleek ferry
its been around for a bit
subtle sierra
what's the combo tho
like ik maestro can shit out mana like it's not tomorrow
if it's a combo deck that's control until it isn't i really fuck with those
golden plover
I assume loop sorceress's scheme with maestro to make infinite mana and then somehow kill them
subtle sierra
the somehow i suspect is either critique or choco
golden plover
But yeah, basically 50% of the field being Izzet is a good sign
subtle sierra
but like i saw (i think) a variant of this in mono red and it's complete ass
i saw this on yt but idk if this is it
what's the 5 cost sorc with mabel on it
sleek ferry
Molten core maestro > fire singer > any 5 cost spell + flashback
knotty ferry
[[season of the bold]]
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Sorcery
Choose up to five 
worth of modes. You may choose the same mode more than once.
— Create a tapped Treasure token.
— Exile the top two cards of your library. Until the end of your next turn, you may play them.
— Until the end of your next turn, whenever you cast a spell, Season of the Bold deals 2 damage to up to one target creature.
knotty ferry
This?
subtle sierra
this card looks ass
sleek ferry
This guy had trouble knowing what every card in his commander pod did, but knows season of the bold
knotty ferry
No I looked it up
"bloomburrow sorceries"
I can recognize the set by the little icon now
Bloomburrow = leaf
Take notes little thuggleton
sleek ferry
Yeah? What’s your favorite set symbol
subtle sierra
spider manifestation is funny ig
knotty ferry
Yeah? What’s your favorite set symbol
Edge of eternities
subtle sierra
Secrets of Strixhaven also introduces several potent mana engines, the kind of ambitious projects that would make any professor proud. Molten-Core Maestro
Molten-Core Maestro
enables an infinite combo alongside two copies of Sorceress's Schemes
Sorceress's Schemes
. The Maestro's opus ability keeps generating more and more red mana as you continually return copies of Sorceress's Schemes
Sorceress's Schemes
to your hand. The result is a storm-like sequence that spirals into a decisive finish, and nine players registered this inventive Izzet Maestro deck.
sleek ferry
Not a bad choice little spatula, maybe GrandLamb was wrong about you after all
subtle sierra
wow wotc fix your formatting lmao
tardy echo
this card looks ass
5 mana impulse 4/float 1 mana and then if you flashback it you prob get to go looney tunes
[[sorceress schemes]]
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Sorcery
Return target instant or sorcery card from your graveyard or exiled card with flashback you own to your hand. Add .
Flashback (You may cast this card from your graveyard for its flashback cost. Then exile it.)
"The price for your meddling is death beyond death."
tardy echo
Ahh that’s actually sick
knotty ferry
Not a bad choice little spatula, maybe GrandLamb was wrong about you after all
You'll find he's wrong more than right
sleek ferry
You'll find he's wrong more than right
I don’t listen to hasbeens
tardy echo
Ban stock up, ban that fuckass crab, ban island, and ban momo. Then maybe this format will be playable
Word me @sleek ferry
tardy echo
I’m going places that they’ve never heard of
sleek ferry
Man hates momo for no reason
tardy echo
Mountain is next
subtle sierra
no, not my montana
tardy echo
B/W/G are the only colors the people need
sleek ferry
Crab eating a ban probably goes a long way to making prowess and spellementals vulnerable though
Lessons can stay untouched
Deck is fine
tardy echo
Realistically I think stock up + crab does a lot
Even if the decks would still be playable it removes a lot of the pain points
Stock up was an actual mistake of a card though holy shmoly
sleek ferry
I have 0 issues with stock up
knotty ferry
I don’t listen to hasbeens
hasbeens? Ain't that the company that bought wotc?
tardy echo
I have many issues with stock up
sleek ferry
Crab currently invalidating combat as a counter to prowess/spellementals matters more
knotty ferry
Ban stormchasers talent I fucking hate that card
tardy echo
Let’s just ban every blue card
knotty ferry
????
tardy echo
Alternatively, let’s ban island
knotty ferry
No
subtle sierra
ok i wanna fuck around with the maestro thing i can't wait for a list
knotty ferry
Spyglass siren is the goat
subtle sierra
looking at yt comments is funny
steady onyx
I HAVE A DECK!
zinc shard
https://youtu.be/-uf-1lbPvyM?si=VA-NTmzDFB0IhBD7
Man this game looks really cool-
"Distributed through Secret Lair website"
Aaaaand I lost all interest
sudden lava
https://youtu.be/-uf-1lbPvyM?si=VA-NTmzDFB0IhBD7
Man this game looks really coo...
for now
sudden lava
Well, it's 9 AM. MaRo's new tcg SL is any second now
wait, that's white Lilianna's design
glad peak
Insert obligatory “they whitewashed liliana” joke here
subtle sierra
my goat is (white)washed
sleek ferry
Wait, white liliana is a black woman? What a W
copper pecan
no, it's just the lighting
glad peak
I wonder if they’re gonna do comp play for mood swings later down the line
Since each deck you can customize still
copper pecan
probably not
it doesn't seem like the kind of game that it would make sense to do that with
it's more like the kind of game you'd play at parties
glad peak
True but it’s reminiscent of gwent and I remember that was beloved for a bit
Probably way too simple compared to gwent though
sudden lava
Calling it now, Liliana, Life's Disgrace for monowhite Liliana
and she creates humans or something
golden plover
Nah it's probably more in the vein of Last Hope or OTV
So "Liliana, First Defense" or something
Otv would give us "+1: Each Player draws a card" and that feels likely
tardy echo
Liliana of the (bridal) veil
4 loyalty
+2 each player draws a card. If you gained life this turn each player draws 2 cards instead.
-1 swords to plowshares
-5 balance
This is fair 
golden plover
Hey technically balance is in pie for white
tardy echo
Wdym technically balance is literally a white card
Also I wonder if we’re gonna see any notable pie breaks from the set considering the whole theme
glad peak
Hopefully they make this like the horizons set and do a mishmash of mechanics
Distraction makers is breaking up but still gonna be around, both are making games
copper pecan
Also I wonder if we’re gonna see any notable pie breaks from the set considering...
i doubt it
wotc considers the way they handled planar chaos to be a mistake
subtle sierra
5 mana impulse 4/float 1 mana and then if you flashback it you prob get to go lo...
ok i was sooo wrong the card absolutely fucks
sudden lava
"Why not X=51?! Can you really not produce 53 mana like the green player?!" - Traumatic Critique
subtle sierra
sudden lava
Today is my precon showdown, I'm on Prismari and my opponents are gonna be witherbloom, lorehold, and quandrix
No upgrades allowed
glad peak
@inland folio I forgot about [[overwhelming splendor]]
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subtle sierra
hmm i might like this
copper pecan
big number 
fallow citrus
how tf are you getting that high
are you just playing standard storm with the seething song dude
subtle sierra
no it's just maestro
it's not even hard
even if you don't have the infinite with the sorceresses, it's fairly trivial to chain opus once you can do one
half your deck is just draw power so you get to either this or comet
twilit canyon
just nuked a mfer to the stone age with splatter techinque this draft
i kinda felt bad
subtle sierra
like i made this in 5 minutes so i'm 100% sure this is beyond unoptimal
we'll have to see what the pros cooked
twilit canyon
that was every card they had
subtle sierra
oof
splatter hitting walkers can be unexpected in sos limited
it also killed their moseo oml
misty really is the embodiment of this
twilit canyon
i have lute and 2 tablets this deck
fallow citrus
no it's just maestro
ohh sure
subtle sierra
i have lute and 2 tablets this deck
evil
twilit canyon
if i dont hit 7 its fucked
twilit canyon
6-2
it happens
oh well
*3
last game went poorly to say the least
opponent was doing fuck all but my splatter technique drew 4 lands
im on 16 lands
they then stick fractal moose 3 turns in a row
also gotta say
this set is actually really draining my mythic wildcard reserves
...which i guess was much like the og strixhaven when that came around too lol
makes sense
im running low and i still dont have a full playset of ral, emeritus of ideation, and im missing copies of the archive
ad naus and jeska's will
im not counting the unplayables i will never actually use
trail anvil
do you typically infinite draft?
trail anvil
even if you don't have the infinite with the sorceresses, it's fairly trivial to...
how do you get an infinite btw, since sorceress is 4 mana?
subtle sierra
at some point you just make millions of mana off the flashback cast
it's fairly trivial
the only issue the deck faces is that it's slower than other izzet variants and it shits the bed to removal
twilit canyon
not even cockatrice??
sleek ferry
knotty ferry
not even cockatrice??
Is cockatrice better
twilit canyon
its actually pretty solid
inland folio
oh i get it now
twilit canyon
ie: ureni + xenagos is 20 damage off the rip
inland folio
they need 0 blockers tho no?
glad peak
ureni's a flyer
glad peak
and removal on etb
twilit canyon
lets be real in the deck its doing at most 2 damage
inland folio
oh protection means u cant block it?
twilit canyon
correct
inland folio
til
twilit canyon
cant be blocked and takes no damage from and cannot be targeted by cards and effects from what it has protection
it also removes all auras and artifacts from it that are subject to the protection portion
oh its only white and black... i thought it had pro red too
twilit canyon
there are very few decks that'll survive 14/14 from atraxa or griselbrand anyways
inland folio
dont u die to all ur pacts tho
inland folio
14 is less than 20
sleek ferry
inland folio
are u counting on the opp shocking themselves to death
twilit canyon
yea
usual t1 in modern is fetch -> shock
thats down 3
if they do it twice
14 is all you need
though of course if they know they are up against neobrand, they will probably fetch around it
inland folio
im looking at a lot of these modern decks and they dont seem very interestin
twilit canyon
which ones in particular?
copper pecan
wtf is forge lol
forge has a really good singleplayer mode
i didn't realize it even had a multiplayer one
inland folio
which ones in particular?
tron, blink, domain zoo, neobrand, and amulet titan
some of thes i dont understand well so i dont have an opinion
sleek ferry
twilit canyon
its so fucking over
inland folio
[[tamiyo inquisitive]]
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Legendary Creature — Moonfolk Wizard
Flying
Whenever Tamiyo attacks, investigate. (Create a Clue token. It's an artifact with ", Sacrifice this token: Draw a card.")
When you draw your third card in a turn, exile Tamiyo, then return her to the battlefield transformed under her owner's control.
0/3
Tamiyo, Seasoned Scholar
Legendary Planeswalker — Tamiyo
+2: Until your next turn, whenever a creature attacks you or a planeswalker you control, it gets -1/-0 until end of turn.
−3: Return target instant or sorcery card from your graveyard to your hand. If it's a green card, add one mana of any color.
−7: Draw cards equal to half the number of cards in your library, rounded up. You get an emblem with "You have no maximum hand size."
Loyalty: 2
inland folio
so this si just a control card right
knotty ferry
mtg as god intended
tardy echo
so this si just a control card right
This is just a god card actually
tardy echo
Yeah.
golden plover
https://fxtwitter.com/saltyorang3/status/2049972512445075470?s=46&t=DdUsqNPs-c3I...
Not playing the 4 mana demon?
golden plover
https://fxtwitter.com/wizards_magic/status/1384178715374940162?s=46&t=DdUsqNPs-c...
This was last week and also eww Mr beast
sleek ferry
Not playing the 4 mana demon?
The 7/6 trampler? That card high key sucks
golden plover
The 7/6 trampler? That card high key sucks
I mean with annex I feel like it's pretty good
Tough to answer and a scary guy
glad peak
tron, blink, domain zoo, neobrand, and amulet titan
A lot of these are pretty boring but I’m surprised you don’t think titan is interesting, it’s less interesting the more you play but at first glance it should be cool
I think you’ll like lantern control (even though deck sucks) lol
glad peak
Bro’s getting killed by old school caw blade lmao
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zinc shard
This was last week and also eww Mr beast
This was 5 years ago
golden plover
This was 5 years ago
Lmao I just saw the date. Wasn't sure why thugs posted it
knotty ferry
stark skiff
knotty ferry
bro these cards are broken i feel like im not even playing the same game
everything just has so much text on it
glad peak
ub mid is a deck that simultaneously needs a ton of practice and also has almost no payoff
knotty ferry
nah bro
these fetch lands are so ridiculous lol
you guys were right
you can just end step of ur opp
sack it to play a surveil land
like wtf
twilit canyon
yeah lol
knotty ferry
wtf is a rizzler pile
glad peak
[[quantum riddler]] + ephemerate decks
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Creature — Sphinx
Flying
When this creature enters, draw a card.
As long as you have one or fewer cards in hand, if you would draw one or more cards, you draw that many cards plus one instead.
Warp 
4/6
knotty ferry
bro
thats what im playing vs rn
and im getting buttblasted
dude
[[teferi, time raveler]]
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knotty ferry
WHAT HTE FUCK IS THIS
glad peak
it's a teferi
zinc shard
ah yes, the greatest card of 2019
glad peak
can't wait till my man sees isochron scepter + [[orim's chant]]
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Instant
Kicker (You may pay an additional as you cast this spell.)
Target player can't cast spells this turn. If this spell was kicked, creatures can't attack this turn.
knotty ferry
yea
the power level
is just
through the roof
lmao
badgermole cub is nothing compared to what i saw today
copper pecan
https://scryfall.com/card/rvr/232/teferi-time-raveler
i keep forgetting that the paper version costs 3 instead of 4
i'm so used to the arena version
glad peak
wait so what deck did you end up playing
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glad peak
UB mid is not a great beginner deck
knotty ferry
We need a guy like him in standard
glad peak
glad peak
bro's about to get cooked by boseiju
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glad peak
[[boseiju, who endures]]
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Legendary Land
: Add 
.
Channel — , Discard this card: Destroy target artifact, enchantment, or nonbasic land an opponent controls. That player may search their library for a land card with a basic land type, put it onto the battlefield, then shuffle. This ability costs less to activate for each legendary creature you control.
glad peak
wastes do not have a basic land type
knotty ferry
Holy
glad peak
it's the sole reason why titan vs etron is so good for titan even if etron starts with sol land into chalice on 1
twilit canyon
sol land chalice = 1 and then the titam player ass blasts you with strip mine -> strip mine -> strip mine and you die the turn after
glad peak
Hell yeah
twilit canyon
had it happen to a friend
i almost felt bad and was about to console him but then i remembered he sleeved up tron and i just laughed at him for
glad peak
I did that to a good friend of mine lmao
tardy echo
Actually how exactly does Titan loop thru boseiju multiple times
glad peak
Analyst bring back boseiju and bounceland to field bounce boseiju
Depending on the rest of the board you can do this to all of your opponent’s lands and then do the same to their permanents with otawara
Then just fairly smack them down with titan if you no longer have access to the haste land
tardy echo
Well I know about analyst bounce land but is there any way to recur it
I guess my question is just how do u do it >2 times
Shifting woodland?
tardy echo
Ok that answers the question
I forgot that that was an option
Woodland is so cool
Analyst is also so cool I wish she was good in standard
glad peak
She was decent in standard
You can play her in [REDACTED] alongside minstrel and lumra for a similar but much worse deck
tardy echo
She was decent in standard <:nyaruhodo:873056991973634078>
For a brief moment in time
And iirc the card was already not played in every list
twilit canyon
yeah she was fine but not the greatest option
past socket
A rather treasured piece of cardboard
trail anvil
y'know I never read [[killian, ink duelist]] properly until today
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Legendary Creature — Human Warlock
Lifelink
Menace (This creature can't be blocked except by two or more creatures.)
Spells you cast that target a creature cost less to cast.
"When your father is Dean Embrose, second best really isn't an option."
2/2
trail anvil
this text omits way more words than I thought
subtle sierra
sanar slaps, I'm so glad to see it there
i kinda found spider manifestation miles better
i also found ashling a bit sus, he's akward to use
although ig sanar brings his own prepared opus trigger
trail anvil
search for your finishers too 👀
subtle sierra
yeah ig i'll have to test him
i kinda fuck with decks like these
this also has lute
i still think i'd run spider manifestation over ashling
ashling gets you a discard draw, and also gets you a 4 cost on t3, but manifestation also leaves you with a red mana, and gives you even more if you keep chaining them
he basically says your 4+ cost spells cost 1 less
ashling only gives 2 mana you can't use on anything else
oh spider also lets you drop 2 2 drops t3
trail anvil
damn someone actually trying to do converge in draft 😭
sudden lava
It looks like a Strixhaven card with the prepared template
But it doesn't look like any of the schools
sleek ferry
what time is the panel again?
sudden lava
what time is the panel again?
1 PM pacific
sleek ferry
ah so 4PM in real time
subtle sierra
what's it in turn based then?
sleek ferry
whatever lithuanian time is
btw, I've been trying a funny deck with 4x magebanelizard and 4x redirect lightning
and its been a blast
fallow citrus
It looks like a Strixhaven card with the prepared template
maybe this is the rare instance they actually use a new mechanic more than once
subtle sierra
prepared for evergreen would unironically fuck
sleek ferry
maybe this is the rare instance they actually use a new mechanic more than once
I think it's more likely that reality fracture is a combination of every set mechanic from this storyline so far
subtle sierra
it's not offensive, it's easy to get, and is great
sleek ferry
reality fracture should be a solid boost for white control decks with more pw's coming
I also would love more start your engine cards
aetherdrift has some of my favorite cards ever
Fun decks are fun
inland folio
reality fracture should be a solid boost for white control decks with more pw's ...
i find it hard to imagine better pws than elspeth and ajani
subtle sierra
wandering emperor v4
inland folio
if theyre doing swaps wouldnt that one be black
wed get like, red white kaito, or white lilliana
subtle sierra
true, maybe not black but other color
inland folio
or white that one void lady
subtle sierra
ig
sleek ferry
Jeskai Bolas would be hilarious
tardy echo
reality fracture should be a solid boost for white control decks with more pw's ...
I mean it’s all but literally guaranteed that we get a white lili right
sleek ferry
she's literally in the promotion art for this weekend's panel gaytor
tardy echo
Jeskai Bolas would be hilarious
I feel that temur is closer to the opposite of bolas
tardy echo
she's literally in the promotion art for this weekend's panel gaytor
Well yeah
That’s what I’m saying
inland folio
I feel that temur is closer to the opposite of bolas
i mean is mono black the opposite of izzet
tardy echo
Kinda
tardy echo
Well it’s also
5c pie means 2+ color cards can’t really have exact ideological opposites
It’s easier for mono colored guys but yk
inland folio
do u think we get wubrg karn
inland folio
phyrexian wubrg karn
sleek ferry
a reality fracture Karn is literally just Urza...
tardy echo
phyrexian wubrg karn
Pay 10 life gg
inland folio
wonder how u balanace a card like that
tardy echo
Worlds first 0 mana planeswalker for however broken it would be would be very funny
You make it dogshit
sleek ferry
Give us a planeswalker land
tardy echo
Or you make it so if you pay all Phyrexian mana he enters with 0 loyalty lol
subtle sierra
Worlds first 0 mana planeswalker for however broken it would be would be very fu...
planeswalker with suspend...
inland folio
feel like u could still pay 8 hp on the play and be fine
subtle sierra
and it's jace
tardy echo
Yes that would still be broken
inland folio
like 1 of any color 8 hp and then u immediately +
tardy echo
The current compleated pw claus is -2 loyalty for each pip you cheat
So like 7 loyalty means you can play him for 2 mana with 1 left
inland folio
pay 18 life play karn play deaths shadow gg
tardy echo
Phyrexian pws was sort of a territory they were very hesitant to approach as it was
I doubt they’ll ever make wubrg Phyrexian mana
subtle sierra
pay 18 life play karn play deaths shadow gg
burst lightning 
tardy echo
It would be insane to balance
tardy echo
burst lightning <:clearly:1247706297491656795>
Mental misstep gg
inland folio
didnt they say in reality fracture they finally figured out how to balance some mechanic
tardy echo
Sure but that could be infinite things
Also Phyrexian mana means phyrexians would be back which makes negative sense with the entire contrivance of reality fracture itself
inland folio
regardless if it was wubrg phyrexian it would have some regular mana on top
7 mana wubrg
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Legendary Planeswalker — Nissa
Compleated (
can be paid with or 2 life. For each paid with life, this planeswalker enters with two fewer loyalty counters.)
+1: Create an X/X green Phyrexian Horror creature token, where X is Nissa's loyalty.
−1: Destroy target artifact or enchantment.
−7: Until end of turn, creatures you control get +1/+1 for each Forest you control and gain trample.
Loyalty: 7
tardy echo
Ok for once we were on the same page
I wish her ult was a bit less dry
But this card was v fun
tardy echo
It’s just boring
inland folio
so this is like, 5 mana pw make a 4/4 right
and u do that a couple times
get a bigger man each time
seems pretty good
tardy echo
Other nissa ultimates are like “play every permanent in your library for free” or “your forest deals 50 damage to your opponent” or “draw 50 cards”
Which are slightly more fun to resolve
tardy echo
Rakdos tamiyo that makes your opponent discard half their hand and mill half their library
inland folio
that 1 mana 3/2 flyer
tardy echo
gg?
tardy echo
We already saw colorswapped snappy
tardy echo
Idk what card you’re talking about bro
inland folio
some kinda scientist bug guy whos blue
sleek ferry
so this is like, 5 mana pw make a 4/4 right
5 mana make a 4/4 or 7 mana win the game basically
inland folio
idr the name
inland folio
[[delver of secrets]]
inland folio
whats anothe rmtg card people like
tardy echo
Forest
inland folio
make affinity buts its white and likes enchantments
tardy echo
It’s crazy actually that we’ve never had affinity for enchantments
I guess they just figured it’s too hard to interact w enchantments like that
sleek ferry
turns into a 3/2 with trample
believe it or not, Green has some of the most pushed low mana creatures in the game. Issue is, pushed removal will always > pushed creatures
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Legendary Artifact
Metalcraft — : Add one mana of any color. Activate only if you control three or more artifacts.
The suns of Mirrodin have shone upon perfection only once.
tardy echo
Wasn’t the 3 mana 6/5 with upside in LCI
inland folio
ok this exists
tardy echo
That was funny as fuck
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Artifact
: Add .
inland folio
they already got all the white looking things
tardy echo
Green always has insane rate but they’ve been pushing it insane recently
sleek ferry
you talking about scooze raccoon?
sleek ferry
yeah, I like it a lot
inland folio
[[mox topaz]]
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sleek ferry
even the 2 mana 3/2 trampler that makes it so your creature spells can't be countered, would be pushed in other formats
inland folio
I guess they just figured it’s too hard to interact w enchantments like that
i mean i think the overlords are a proof of concept
unless u mean enchantment removal is hard to get
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Legendary Creature — Elf Druid
Landfall — Whenever a land you control enters, you get 
(two energy counters).
You may pay eight rather than pay the mana cost for permanent spells you cast.
"Zendikar still seems so far off, but Chandra is my home."
3/3
sleek ferry
I've literally never seen this creature in my life
"Chandra is my home" is a crazy line btw
sleek ferry
yeah, but I didn't know it existed
that precon is literally like 20 bucks
turns out that making a decent energy precon is almost impossible in 3 colors
as they've tried and failed twice so far
knotty ferry
Wtf is scooze raccoon
sleek ferry
[[keen-eyed curator]]
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Creature — Raccoon Scout
As long as there are four or more card types among cards exiled with this creature, it gets +4/+4 and has trample.
: Exile target card from a graveyard.
"Now this one's a real collector's item. They say Lily Emberseed herself drank from this mug when she was still Lily of Valley."
3/3
tardy echo
Scooze is [[scavenging ooze]]
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Creature — Ooze
: Exile target card from a graveyard. If it was a creature card, put a +1/+1 counter on this creature and you gain 1 life.
In nature, not a single bone or scrap of flesh goes to waste.
2/2
tardy echo
https://scryfall.com/card/blb/181/keen-eyed-curator
Holy it’s 7/7 not 6/6
sleek ferry
we have the green 1 drop in sos, scooze raccoon, surrak
inland folio
by the green one drop do u mean the one that casts rampant growth
sleek ferry
not seeing play atm
at least not in 60 cards
even in commander people are skeptical
3 mana is just a lot if you're not going for the win
which tbf, that wizard can do
tardy echo
we're so close to bringing back green stompy
Both of the primo green decks are pretty stompy adjacent
sleek ferry
oh [[vastlands scavenger]] is also lowkey pushed as hell
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Creature — Bear Druid
Deathtouch
This creature enters prepared. (While it's prepared, you may cast a copy of its spell. Doing so unprepares it.)
4/4
Bind to Life
Instant
Mill seven cards. Then put a creature card from among them onto the battlefield.
tardy echo
I’ve been saying that
sleek ferry
3 mana 4/4 with deathtouch, and bind to life being instant is INSANE
tardy echo
It doesn’t slot super well into any of the stuff in standard rn though
sleek ferry
I might make green stompy
let me just build up my wildcards again
I wonder what Marvel super heroes are going to be mono green
tardy echo
I think the main reason ppl aren’t playing actual factual stompy is bc just landfall
sleek ferry
green goblin is historically rakdos
knotty ferry
Rakdos peed...
sleek ferry
Hulk is legit the most Red super hero ever
knotty ferry
What about shrek
sleek ferry
I was going to say hes probably izzet
tardy echo
They’ll def give him green just because he’s literally green lol
Even if it’s not in theme
Storm is the only marvel hero with any amount of actual green theming that I can think of
sleek ferry
Idk if this will be good in 60 card formats, but this card is going to be good to really good in cedh
sleek ferry
never watched it
copper pecan
we're not getting anything disney in mtg while lorcana exists
tardy echo
Storm is the only marvel hero with any amount of actual green theming that I can...
Oh maybe the Mr beast guy too
Idk
I don’t think there are any marvel heroes that like talk to animals or shit
sleek ferry
We’d probably getting the 2027 roadmap today little spat
Expect the 3rd marvel set Marvel: Super Villains
And the other 2 UB’s will be
Star Wars
And
knotty ferry
Never watched star wars
sleek ferry
Game of Thrones
knotty ferry
Never watched that either
sleek ferry
Season 1-3 of Game of Thrones is some of the best produced television of all time
knotty ferry
Not better than ESPN sportscenter
Wait we should have a sports themed set
That would be insane
sleek ferry
Like Eyeshield 21 or Prince of Tennis?
knotty ferry
Everything
All sports
Even curling
And ch*ss
Legit how have they not had a sports themed set wtf thats free money
Theres infinite ideas
For creatures and enchantments and ofhetspells
Other
Wizards hire me
tardy echo
Game of Thrones
This would be great if anybody was green in got
The most mardu colored set of all time with like maybe 2% blue cards
sleek ferry
Hey, I’m a mardu player
tardy echo
It would be a goat SL though
knotty ferry
Wasn't Jennifer Lawrence in game of thrones
sleek ferry
Its the same thing for Elden Ring though, who the fuck is green in Elden Ring
tardy echo
Scarlet rot is golgari
A couple things in ER are jund
And miquella is pretty bant coded
But actual mono G is prob exclusively demi humans and/or beast clergyman
But ER would prob be a bad UB
sleek ferry
And that bear that cosplays as an elk
tardy echo
Truly who are you talking about
Rune bears as a whole or like one in specific
Rune bear would be a 2 mana 4/4 hexproof trample btw
sleek ferry
The one in the first area that’s shape shifted into an elk
copper pecan
kagurabachi ub
tardy echo
jjk UB unironically peak 
sleek ferry
Who the fuck is green in JJK
tardy echo
A couple of the demons actually
I was gonna say actually the hardest color to find representation for in UBs tends to be specifically mono G I feel
Raw power without ambition/ natural force without constraint is a weird concept for a lot of media to embody
Unironically League probably has some pretty Green coded champs though…
sleek ferry
I just thought of a mono green Marvel superhero
tardy echo
Truly who
sleek ferry
Beast from X men
tardy echo
I said that already sigh
tardy echo
Oh maybe the Mr beast guy too
,
sleek ferry
Oh uh
tardy echo
Sigh thugs always ignores me
sleek ferry
Green Lantern? Not sure if any other colors actually fit him
tardy echo
Lowkirkenuinely Phoenix is sort of gruul/jund coded
sleek ferry
Wait that’s dc
tardy echo
Green lantern is pretty selesnya also
sleek ferry
sleek ferry
Captain Planet
tardy echo
Scarecrow killer croc
sleek ferry
Did we really blow our load on green super heroes/villains for marvel in the Spiderman set
sleek ferry
Spiderman India…
tardy echo
Was there even a green spiderman
sleek ferry
[[spiderman india]]
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Legendary Creature — Spider Human Hero
Web-slinging (You may cast this spell for if you also return a tapped creature you control to its owner's hand.)
Pavitr's Sevā — Whenever you cast a creature spell, put a +1/+1 counter on target creature you control. It gains flying until end of turn.
"That's why I do what I do. For my people."
4/4
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sleek ferry
Tmnt on the other hand was a pretty green set
tardy echo
And spider ham
But the green villains in spiderman are just like
Kraven and lizard right
sleek ferry
Swamp head
tardy echo
I guess venom is jund
tardy echo
Swamp head
That’s a tmnt card
Also isn’t leatherhead a good guy
Oh jackal is green too I guess
sleek ferry
Sandman was also in the Spiderman set, and that card is goated
sleek ferry
Play harmonizer
tardy echo
No
tardy echo
Not my kind of deck
I like green and I like combo but specifically green combo is p boring to me
Mostly just because the payoff is pretty boring
You know what card is gonna be broken some day? [[fangkeepers familiar]]
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tardy echo
Actually wait this is worse than I remember
sleek ferry
You don’t like casting Vibrance and Wistfulness?
tardy echo
I very much do but not when my end game is just making a 1000 attack guy with trample
sleek ferry
Sigh you can also win with burn
tardy echo
Wait fr how
tardy echo
Oh that’s boring I thought you meant like combo kill with burn
Anyways it’s insane how goldfish has a talent for showing the weirdest and also worst performing build of a deck when you look for a list
Don’t look at the BG midrange list they scrubbed
tardy echo
It seems pretty clear that wotc likes cats more
WAIT
It came to me in a dream color swapped ajani will be a dog @sleek ferry
subtle sierra
ok i've tested maestro more
deck is dogshit
perhaps pros know smth i don't
also @sleek ferry a list for you since i came by one
sleek ferry
also <@304354673647812608> a list for you since i came by one
I think I vsed this guy or at least somebody on his team, this list is almost the exact same I vsed
steady onyx
I think I vsed this guy or at least somebody on his team, this list is almost th...
hi mr thugs
sleek ferry
It came to me in a dream color swapped ajani will be a dog <@304354673647812608>
Holy, woof woof
steady onyx
Holy, woof woof
subtle sierra
I think I vsed this guy or at least somebody on his team, this list is almost th...
meanwhile i can't wait for my lutes to come in
inland folio
I don’t think there are any marvel heroes that like talk to animals or shit
squirrel girl
sleek ferry
Oh yeah squirrel girl is mono green
inland folio
I think I vsed this guy or at least somebody on his team, this list is almost th...
that reminds me are you named "thugs" in mtga
like nothing else
just "thugs"
i mightve seen you get cooked in a yt video
steady onyx
i mightve seen you get cooked in a yt video
he always gets cooked lol
inland folio
is thugs the emperorace of mtg
tardy echo
whos mono black??
17000 different villains
steady onyx
17000 different villains
u mean black widow?
golden plover
Galactus is made by some random saga rn lol
inland folio
why is DC so much better than marvel
golden plover
He's Golgari
tardy echo
Black widow is not black
tardy echo
He's Golgari
Yeah exactly
inland folio
Black widow is not black
yeah shes russian
tardy echo
Insane
golden plover
inland folio
basically every villian
tardy echo
And being evil tertiarily
Yeah
It’s extremely villain coded and not very hero coded
inland folio
theres some ambitious heros
golden plover
Anyways blacks primary attribute is ambition
You say that but UB often simplifies black down to "bad guy"
inland folio
but theyd fall under red more than black
golden plover
It's not always the case and not always only bad guys
tardy echo
You say that but UB often simplifies black down to "bad guy"
Well yeah
golden plover
But a lot of UB cards have made their villains black
tardy echo
But very few marvel heros have actual ambition
steady onyx
i fucking love legend of kurruk
inland folio
punisher would be BW right
steady onyx
ngl my fave card in mtg rn
golden plover
Punisher is totally Mardu yeah
Iirc they only showed one card called "The Defenders" though
tardy echo
Self destructive violence is sort of a recurring mardu trait
inland folio
hes gotta have some white in there
steady onyx
punisher is such rakdos vibes no?
golden plover
So it's unlikely he gets his own card
steady onyx
i really dont get mardu
tardy echo
hes gotta have some white in there
That’s mardu
tardy echo
I think rakdos or mardu
But prob mardu because having an “evil” color split for a “good guy” would be confusing in wotc eyes
tardy echo
In an extremely fake way
inland folio
thats like his shtick
sleek ferry
i mightve seen you get cooked in a yt video
Maybe, I experiment with a lot of brews I usually come up with in like 5 minutes
And I take them straight to rank
Because normals is for noobs
tardy echo
he just also kills people
This is a p nonwhite thing for him
sleek ferry
How could you ever know if a deck is good if you don’t play it in mythic
tardy echo
Not that white is normally a peaceful color but…
One of the few flavor wins that white has maintained is how conditional the creature removal is
inland folio
This is a p nonwhite thing for him
thats why he isnt just pure white
tardy echo
And often how it’s temporary (and nonlethal)
inland folio
like im looking at this mtg color chart
and punisher is everything in this white part
hes just that in a twisted way
tardy echo
thats why he isnt just pure white
He’s not pure white because he’s a homicidal sociopath obsessed with an endless blood vendetta against the concept of organized crime
sleek ferry
Also, that galactic is pretty nice for only 6 mana
tardy echo
Truly, that’s actually an EXTREMELY boros character trait
Aurelia literally wants to start a war that would probably raze ravnica to the ground
inland folio
i thought boros WAS organized crime
sleek ferry
Organized crime is like Dimir
sleek ferry
Grixis also
tardy echo
Oh true
inland folio
are there any villians that wouldnt be black
sudden lava
maybe this is the rare instance they actually use a new mechanic more than once
I doubt it, especially since White Liliana is in the set to
tardy echo
Every shard w B/U has some level of espionage and organized criminal activity
sleek ferry
Anti heroes?
fallow citrus
I doubt it, especially since White Liliana is in the set to
ok
inland folio
Anti heroes?
nah like actual villians
tardy echo
He’d be mono blue
inland folio
the superior superhero multiverse
tardy echo
He has no ambition to actually do anything beyond a single goal
sudden lava
sudden lava
It would be funny if monowhite Liliana
sleek ferry
DC has better villains than Marvel, so DC would probably just have an insane amount of color variety in their villains
sudden lava
is based off Onyx
tardy echo
DC prob still wouldn’t have a ton of green though
tardy echo
Killer croc man bat scarecrow
inland folio
cause poison ivy
tardy echo
- poison ivy is the obligatory yeah
inland folio
this guy doesnt know swamp thing