Magic the Gathering

[glad peak]

rog thras is just good because rog is the goat and thras is the goat

[tardy echo]

Idk temur is an extremely coherent color combo

They just shoehorn temur commanders into being psychotic combo decks or Timmy ramp conditions

In multi card formats temur feels very good as a color combo to play

[glad peak]

i miss the last only good temur deck in modern

grinding breach was fun

[atomic harness]

I remember some kids trying to make loot work Mr mudkip

[glad peak]

didn't really like rhinos

[atomic harness]

It was interesting to say the least...

[glad peak]

temur rhinos was boring af

[atomic harness]

I don't remember the name but it was loot with three abilities

[glad peak]

yep, loot has good abilities but damn losing black or white really hurts

[tardy echo]

The exhaust loot

He’s sort of there to just combo u to death

Like most temur commanders

[knotty ferry]

Temu commanders icant

[glad peak]

He just doesn’t do anything spectacular ngl

With black instead of one of the colors he has he could be so much better

[atomic harness]

https://youtu.be/ZfShWCLQB7w?si=8AMKpK7gIUl4DlRM

[stark skiff]

Wow kid I play Eshki

[tardy echo]

Just saw someone say yorion should’ve been an etb and an attack trigger reopen the schools

[trail anvil]

we really out here just trying to outdo brago

[atomic harness]

Holy @subtle sierra

[subtle sierra]

[atomic harness]

Make gyruda on etb and attack too

[sleek ferry]

https://fxtwitter.com/sonatasunlight6/status/2035394271805681755?s=46&t=DdUsqNPs-c3IFDRYOhiq8A @atomic harness

Athena Price (@SonataSunlight6)

Got my invite last night with Izzet Scam featuring 3x Valley Floodcaller! @fireshoes
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FxTwitter · Mar 21, 2026, 4:33 PM

[atomic harness]

Holy

[sleek ferry]

https://fxtwitter.com/mbrewlab/status/2035144362191974554?s=46&t=DdUsqNPs-c3IFDRYOhiq8A

MTGA - BrewLab (@MBrewlab)

TezzeRed is back with some sweet upgrades from #MTGxTMNT 🦊✌️
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FxTwitter · Mar 21, 2026, 12:00 AM

[subtle sierra]

i wonder if you could make some izzet control deck for standard, but i can't really think of a good wincon besides like wan shi tong or ral

the monument elemental or scam lists don't scratch that control itch

[sleek ferry]

I mean this is just lessons without monument tbh

[subtle sierra]

yeah but lessons don't have a wincon in themselves

they are either jerking off stormchasers a million times or doing idk what

[golden plover]

I feel like you'd be too lacking on counters and ways to close the game

Like you just play Ral and then what?

[glad peak]

Just play with cool but rude

[golden plover]

Ah good idea, then we can add in monument

[subtle sierra]

yeah the card is fine but you want artifacts with it

[golden plover]

With both of those we should add in the [[Abandon Attachments]]

[lost widget]

https://scryfall.com/card/tla/205/abandon-attachments

Abandon Attachments <:mana1:292901508373282827><:manaur:292901509010817024>

Instant — Lesson
You may discard a card. If you do, draw two cards.
"Learn to let her go, or you cannot let the pure cosmic energy flow in from the universe." —Guru Pathik

[subtle sierra]

sigh ig i can wait to see what strixhaven gives us

[golden plover]

Hmm isn't there cards that interact with lessons

We can add some of those in too

[subtle sierra]

[golden plover]

We did it. We rebuilt Izzet lessons

[subtle sierra]

ik there was a small stint of wan shi tong control with the land destruction lesson but i tried it before and it's ass

[golden plover]

Yeah it's too cute

And stuff like simic will just turn down replacing the land

[copper pecan]

tbh i kinda hope that we don't get more learn cards in strixhaven

they might be too good with the lessons from atla

[golden plover]

Yeah, I'd be cool skipping learn/lessons this time

[copper pecan]

i think we'll get more lessons but i don't think they will use learn

[golden plover]

I'd rather not have ancestral recall in standard

Or rather, I'd rather that card not just be ancestral recall

[copper pecan]

i would too but i would especially prefer to not have an ancestral recall you can pull out of your extra deck

lessons are just too good of a flavor fit for me to see them not using it

[sleek ferry]

Idk, I was under the impression we wouldn’t get learn/lessons considering the story takes place outside the academy

And most of the students are in their 3rd years

[glad peak]

Maybe the new mechanic is teach and you give you opponents lessons

[tardy echo]

Is the line just storming off and having a 20/20

Or is there a firdoch core I’m missing somewhere

[knotty ferry]

[[multiversal passage]]

[lost widget]

https://scryfall.com/card/spm/180/multiversal-passage

Multiversal Passage

Land
As this land enters, choose a basic land type. Then you may pay 2 life. If you don't, it enters tapped.
This land is the chosen type.
New worlds await...

[glad peak]

Yep just rawdogging Jeskai ascendancy lines

[sleek ferry]

It’s literally just an annoying tempo deck

[glad peak]

The scam part is rizzler + portal

The rest of the deck is tempo and if you want, you can double prowess to either save your board or kill them

There doesn’t have to be a combo with floodcaller

[subtle sierra]

https://mtgtop8.com/event?e=82165&d=824378&f=ST

[past socket]

To coins or dice for going gambling

[sleek ferry]

Always coins

[knotty ferry]

https://fxtwitter.com/i/status/2035459463830814959

mark normand (@marknorm)

Magic ‘the gathering’ Johnson

Quoting Polymarket Sports (@PolymarketSport)
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FxTwitter · Mar 21, 2026, 8:52 PM

[sleek ferry]

That’s my boy CAJ

[sleek ferry]

https://youtu.be/sPs6OeGecJg?si=ioj9sIYrbvKy8Xkj

[tardy echo]

This kind of sounds like hydrogen bomb coughing baby

[glad peak]

For who?

Shadow’s the only sus pick here ngl

[glad peak]

Watched it, and yes I still maintain shadow is a sus pick for here

[sleek ferry]

Hypothetically speaking, if I wanted to troll and bring merfolk to modern locals, what would a list look like

[stark skiff]

Isn’t the best one that LCI precon one?

[fallow citrus]

if you want to play merfolk in modern look up any nikachu video

[trail anvil]

that's not modern legal pretty sure

[fallow citrus]

nvm nikachu hasn't posted in a hot minute

[fallow citrus]

https://www.mtggoldfish.com/deck/7671356#paper

something like this, the decks can get kinda varied due to locals meta but also like tech choices

[stark skiff]

lol he said troll so I assumed commander

[trail anvil]

lol

[sleek ferry]

Found a list that looked more comp viable

I also have most of this

Just need to order a few cards

[glad peak]

just finished a couple rounds of cedh

rog ishai is as flawed as we all thought so the pilot swapped around a couple cards and instantly game was much better for him

meanwhile i'm debating playing krark ishai just because my meta is super midrangey and playing rog thras for that long is exhausting

• engine clone slop is so much more efficient when it's krark doing it instead of rog

[sleek ferry]

Play ishai jeska like a true chad

[glad peak]

nah that's a chud deck

krark ishai though, now that's interesting

sadly it's impossible to build that combo nbc

krark allows for so much but his exponential enablers are so bad

idk there's so many decks in cedh and youtube doesn't do it justice even when highlighting fringe decks

[sleek ferry]

Weren’t people trying krark tymna like 3 months ago?

[glad peak]

always have

krark decks in general are pretty unexplored

partially because there's usually more consistent things to do but more importantly wotc's been printing an obscene amount of support

[glad peak]

hold on, people haven't tried sewer cam fiddlebender lines in rogshai, maybe i should just do rogshai because the partner cards look so much better

[atomic harness]

How was lotho there

[glad peak]

Lotho is the worst kept secret in cedh little one

[atomic harness]

What happened...

[glad peak]

Surprisingly high win rate for a fringe deck

[atomic harness]

Also yeah I was roasting rog ishai

[glad peak]

Some cards were swapped and suddenly the deck works

[atomic harness]

What did he take out/put in?

[glad peak]

Can’t remember what was removed (dizzy spell was one) but put in Vivi and a couple cards for mana specifically

Baral was surprisingly good

I also was introduced to people deciding to make Ral into a full package and add him to decks with more than just red and blue

Another is obviously just doing poly niv but that’s trash

[subtle sierra]

Soooo when are we getting strixhaven reveals

[golden plover]

Ya know, it's really weird her card is called [[Me, the Immortal]] when her name is Ashildr and that's what she goes by for the vast majority of her screentime

[lost widget]

https://scryfall.com/card/who/147/me-the-immortal

Me, the Immortal <:mana2:292901509060886528><:manag:292901508654301185><:manau:292901508754702338><:manar:292901508796645397>

Legendary Creature — Human Rogue
At the beginning of combat on your turn, put your choice of a +1/+1, first strike, vigilance, or menace counter on Me.
Counters remain on Me as it moves to any zone other than a player's hand or library.
You may cast this card from your graveyard by discarding two cards in addition to paying its other costs.
3/3

[golden plover]

Like she kinda really only goes by "Me" for like 2 episodes

[subtle sierra]

Wow i want her in standard

She's funny

[golden plover]

"Ashildr the Immortal" is also a much better card name

But I think they wanted "put a counter on me" as rules text

[subtle sierra]

Fur hire vibes

[golden plover]

Literally. But at least they didn't fuck with the rules text and the character does go by "Me" at a point in the show

She's just way more commonly known as Ashildr

[sleek ferry]

I kinda want to preorder the 5 strixhaven commander decks, but $200 for the 5, when I just got the Tarkir ones for 150 is a bit steep

[sudden lava]

debut is on 30th

[sleek ferry]

Lessons with North Wind Avatar is actually such an insanely skillful deck

[sudden lava]

OH leak happened

for Strix

[golden plover]

https://magic.wizards.com/en/news/announcements/banned-and-restricted-march-23-2026

No changes unless you care about historic ig. Food chain banned there

[tardy echo]

LOL

[golden plover]

"Speed of standard is too fast" but cub gets to live lol

[tardy echo]

@twilit canyon

[golden plover]

I dunno man, if y'all are watching the speed of standard I think cub is a prime target for a hit

[twilit canyon]

they hate me in particular

[sudden lava]

https://magic.wizards.com/en/news/magic-story/secrets-of-strixhaven-episode-1-penmanship-practice

New frog

https://media.wizards.com/2026/sos/8hT3nV01Dpy0/en_kjKXVG6ifZ.webp

[golden plover]

I don't necessarily think cub NEEDS a ban, but they specifically mention that certain cards are enabling standard to be too fast and I dunno man, cub is probably the biggest offender there

[atomic harness]

They need to stop doing this man

[sudden lava]

was surprised the lumaret isnt a pest

[glad peak]

Grandeur is coming back??? In MY singleton game??? Malarkey

[sleek ferry]

Idt you can ban cub without seriously hurting the meta game tbh

you ban cub, and now green as a color is obsolete

[tardy echo]

I think if they wanna ban cub they’ll prob wait for strixhaven bc yeah ^

People complained that green was basically unplayable for like 3 years

[sleek ferry]

we go back to izzet being king, and izzet gates control from being a REAL option in the meta

[golden plover]

Izzet is already the best color in standard rn with prowess lol

[tardy echo]

I also think there are hits to that deck that keep ramp as a playable deck in standard without making it unplayable ie elves or something

[golden plover]

Cub is 100% the primary offender for "standard is too fast rn" which is something they explicitly state in the article

But I do think that maybe Izzet takes a hit too

[sleek ferry]

Because it was lol. Cub literally revived green as a color. The only green deck that was ever remotely viable during those 3 years was golgari midrange, which was basically just a worse version of current dimir midrange

[golden plover]

Stormchasers could be a reasonable one, especially going into Strixhaven

[tardy echo]

Son I’m the #1 green enjoyer in this server

I know

There was a short period where green was actually a good color but it was entirely because of beans

[sleek ferry]

That was also a 3 color deck

[tardy echo]

4 color sometimes

[golden plover]

I think the issue tho is that green just doesn't have the interaction it needs as a color rn

[tardy echo]

Well when the colors whole identity is interacting with noncreature permanents it’s hard to have good interaction in standard rn

Unless they start making some actual ridiculous fight spells

[sleek ferry]

More than that, the color didn't have real on curve value

[golden plover]

I mean stuff like Boid and Rhythm help with that but it's still probably not fully there

[tardy echo]

Mono green is inherently a pretty polarizing color I feel

Esp compared to other mono colors

[sleek ferry]

rhythm is only usable because of cub imo

[tardy echo]

Rhythm was unplayable before cub

I asked in here if rhythm for cub was troll and ppl said yes bc that card was infeasible dogshit before avatar

[golden plover]

Yeah true. I guess they wouldn't play rhythm without cub

But also, the Mono-G landfall list would survive losing cub

[tardy echo]

Without cub if ppl played a deck tutor like that it would prob the ecl one but im not sure thats even worth either

[golden plover]

They'd be like a turn behind most of the time, but that'd still put them on curve

[tardy echo]

Honestly I think landfall is like the most boring type of green deck to make playable

[sudden lava]

where was that strixhaven precon leak?

[golden plover]

Oh for sure, but it's the only one that's good lol

At least rn

But yeah, I think if the stated intent is to slow standard cub and stormchasers both go

[sudden lava]

oh found it

[tardy echo]

There are def still other cub decks in standard landfall is just the one w the best spread/consistency

[golden plover]

Yeah. Earthbending making it not a big deal to lose your guys is still wild and enables that deck hard

[sudden lava]

the mentioned precon leak

[golden plover]

Simic and Bant Rhythm lose to a single Boardwipe

[tardy echo]

I would just like green to have good cards before we make it an unplayable color again

They printed ramp payoffs for like 3 years straight and the only good acceleration they printed was elves

[sleek ferry]

I mean harmonizer would still be a deck without cub, since it doesn't even run it

and earthbound ascension would probably still be ran by some decks just due to the insane value

[tardy echo]

Harmonizer is temur

[golden plover]

The mono-green landfall list would still be around

Cub helps that list, but it doesn't NEED cub

[sleek ferry]

Naya is like the #1 3c combo that's heavy on landfall, but temur is #2 for sure

[glad peak]

Merfolk is pretty alright since tron is a top deck but damn that energy matchup is rough

[knotty ferry]

Thank God they didn't ban any of the cards I was gonna buy

[glad peak]

Who was the guy trying to buy into merfolk again?

[sleek ferry]

me, but I found a list specifically tailored for the nergy matchup

[glad peak]

I don’t think it’ll be enough to shore up that matchup ngl

But more importantly you can always just hope people are just playing tron and nothing else, that’s surprisingly relevant in modern

[sleek ferry]

I'm only really scared of the energy/storm matchup tbh

[glad peak]

There’s a lot more people playing prowess in paper, I’d be careful of that too

Deck doesn’t care if you try to race and can kill a turn or 2 earlier unless they stumble on card draw

[fallow citrus]

what's the list?

[atomic harness]

[[pest control]]

[lost widget]

https://scryfall.com/card/big/22/pest-control

Pest Control <:manaw:1007102126813610074><:manab:292901508872273920>

Sorcery
Destroy all nonland permanents with mana value 1 or less.
Cycling (, Discard this card: Draw a card.)
"How dare these varmints befoul the shining streets of Prosperity?" —Baron Bertram Graywater

[sleek ferry]

the mengu list I posted yesterday, I'm going to make some slight changes though as it was early post lorwyn theory

[knotty ferry]

im finally bronze 1

lets fucking go

i fiinally beat a green deck

holy fuck

when they summon manowar elves i start shitting my pants i hate that card

how do i open the orb that i got

the tmnt orb

[glad peak]

Plz don’t say your energy tech is torpor orb

So many people have been propagating that idea and it’s trash into energy

[subtle sierra]

Click mastery on the top left bar

[knotty ferry]

ok ty i just bought donatello

sorry i mean leonardo

italian names

[subtle sierra]

bro bought a pet turtle

i still don't get why two of them have a stylized heads and the other 2 are different

[knotty ferry]

you dont know the lore?

sigh

[subtle sierra]

i don't wanna...

[knotty ferry]

https://tenor.com/view/tmnt-leonardo-eating-pizza-pizza-pizza-day-gif-23486141

[tardy echo]

I just want green ramp to be playable sigh

[glad peak]

It is playable

Is it fun? Probably not but playable? Yep

[subtle sierra]

ok bud you need to caaaalm down

lmao

the amount of ui bugs arena has is crazy

[golden plover]

Yeah arena is buggy as shit

It's wild

[subtle sierra]

[sudden lava]

ty yummy for reminding me to do my dailies

[subtle sierra]

[sudden lava]

gonna need that gold for drafts to earn my sealed entry

[tardy echo]

Ramp is fun in standard rn

It wouldn’t be fun or playable if cub ate shit though

[knotty ferry]

i just played your rakdos peed deck @sleek ferry

well it was rakdos

no idea what he was doing, he was playing [[ninja teen]]

[lost widget]

https://scryfall.com/card/tmt/67/ninja-teen

Ninja Teen <:mana2:292901509060886528><:manab:292901508872273920>

Enchantment — Class
(Gain the next level as a sorcery to add its ability.)
Whenever a creature you control leaves the battlefield, each opponent loses 1 life.
: Level 2
Creatures you control get +1/+0 and have menace.
: Level 3
Creature cards in your graveyard have sneak .
You may cast creature spells from your graveyard using their sneak abilities.

[knotty ferry]

and the macro cosmos enchantment

[[leyline of the void]]

[lost widget]

https://scryfall.com/card/dsk/106/leyline-of-the-void

Leyline of the Void <:mana2:292901509060886528><:manab:292901508872273920><:manab:292901508872273920>

Enchantment
If this card is in your opening hand, you may begin the game with it on the battlefield.
If a card would be put into an opponent's graveyard from anywhere, exile it instead.
Cracks in the facade of the House lead not to escape but to oblivion.

[sleek ferry]

Did you win?

[knotty ferry]

yessir

my hand was good tho

imma try to get silver tonight

[knotty ferry]

it begins

sigh

LETS FUCKING GO

@sleek ferry MAGIC HAS BEEN GATHERED

[sleek ferry]

Good shit boy

[knotty ferry]

ok i hate magic now

i just played vs some black aids handloop deck

[[bandit's talent]]

[lost widget]

https://scryfall.com/card/blb/83/bandits-talent

Bandit's Talent <:mana1:292901508373282827><:manab:292901508872273920>

Enchantment — Class
(Gain the next level as a sorcery to add its ability.)
When this Class enters, each opponent discards two cards unless they discard a nonland card.
: Level 2
At the beginning of each opponent's upkeep, if that player has one or fewer cards in hand, they lose 2 life.
: Level 3
At the beginning of your draw step, draw an additional card for each opponent who has one or fewer cards in hand.

[knotty ferry]

and some other card

that was like this

holy fuk it was dumb

[copper pecan]

theory: this set is the college set in order to balance out edge of eternities' jupiter set

[trail anvil]

but which one are the girls going to

[golden plover]

What the FUCK did they do to Lluwen

Why does he look like a fox news presenter now

[copper pecan]

they de-yassified him

[golden plover]

He looks BAD now

He get that Mar-a-Lago vibe now

Also Abigale has hearing aids now

[sudden lava]

Listen, I'm likely playing prismari this set but
AWWWWWWWWWWWWW LOOOK AT THE BABY PEST

[knotty ferry]

Can I dust cards in arena

For mythic points or whatever

[twilit canyon]

no

[knotty ferry]

Sigh

[glad peak]

https://fxbsky.app/profile/lapsybae.bsky.social/post/3mhr2rjitws2q

lapsy (@lapsybae.bsky.social)

damn, magic story hits different nowadays...

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FxBluesky · Mar 23, 2026, 10:01 PM

[subtle sierra]

good ol' core

[subtle sierra]

only thing notable is that there's lessons from life but instant for 5

and repartee

when you target a creature with instant or sorc

[past socket]

Page is kinda neat ngl

[subtle sierra]

very satisfying

[knotty ferry]

Holy fuck

I just played vs some artifact turbo deck

With [[relm's sketch]]

[lost widget]

https://scryfall.com/card/fin/67/relms-sketching

Relm's Sketching <:mana2:292901509060886528><:manau:292901508754702338><:manau:292901508754702338>

Sorcery
Create a token that's a copy of target artifact, creature, or land.
In her pictures she captures everything: forests, water, light . . . the very essence of the things she paints.

[knotty ferry]

And he copied the artifact that summons a 3/3 when another artifact enters

i got obliterated

[subtle sierra]

that is

incredibly mild i'm afraid

but yeah uw artifact is a thing

you have to either out speed them, or have specific outs

say control has [[ultima]]

[lost widget]

https://scryfall.com/card/fin/38/ultima

Ultima <:mana3:292901508771610624><:manaw:1007102126813610074><:manaw:1007102126813610074>

Sorcery
Destroy all artifacts and creatures. End the turn. (Exile all spells and abilities from the stack, including this card. The player whose turn it is discards down to their maximum hand size. Damage wears off, and "this turn" and "until end of turn" effects end.)
"Such devastation ... this was not my intention!" —Gaius van Baelsar

[subtle sierra]

usually they don't really need to copy the simulacrum but surely if they wanna do that you just play [[three steps ahead]]???

[lost widget]

https://scryfall.com/card/otj/75/three-steps-ahead

Three Steps Ahead <:manau:292901508754702338>

Instant
Spree (Choose one or more additional costs.)

• — Counter target spell.
• — Create a token that's a copy of target artifact or creature you control.
• — Draw two cards, then discard a card.
  She'd planned for every eventuality, with the obvious exception of failure.

[subtle sierra]

not being able to copy lands in exchange for instant is miles better, besides all the other obvious stuff

[knotty ferry]

I couldn't do anything 😭

He had like 7 tokens with 20/20

I mean I know the counter is to end the game

But I just couldn't

[subtle sierra]

it happens

[knotty ferry]

And I can't interact with artifacts

[glad peak]

So trying out Rog ishai because their alt arts are amazing

[knotty ferry]

Which I guess is fine if I can circumvent what they're doing but sometimes that's hard

Also, not having board wipes sucks

[subtle sierra]

by the mild thing i meant that you like

lost to enneacraft, but you lost cause you died to magic cylinder

idk a better analogy

artifacts don't play that card

[glad peak]

Deck’s fine, it’s a decent control deck where control is difficult to do but you’re breaking parity by going greedier than current decks which are greedy

[knotty ferry]

It's probably not optimal

But

Yeah

Tbh I'm.sure I fucked up with my surveil/scry

Like I think there has to be a lot of skill with that

And minmaxing

That I'm probably not using well

Like maximizing the chances of top decking something good

[subtle sierra]

surveil and scry just fix your draw

and since there are more turns they are essentialy draw 1 to an extent

[knotty ferry]

Yeah, I'm saying I'm probably not picking the correct things to draw

Just bc I don't have a complete understanding of what I need in a given situation

[subtle sierra]

ye

[knotty ferry]

So that game was potentially winnable if I had optimized my draws

Or at least I would've given myself a better chance

[glad peak]

Surveil and scry are pretty skill testing mechanics

Love it in prowess and delver

[knotty ferry]

I think I'm getting better at the game in general, but it's also hard when I don't know the meta

Or rather

I don't know the game plan of every deck

Bc also

I play vs a different deck nearly every match

Like I just played vs some mono black deck with the final fantasy 12 guy

Forgot the name

Not ff12, ff1 lol

[[zodiark]]

[lost widget]

https://scryfall.com/card/fin/128/zodiark-umbral-god

Zodiark, Umbral God <:manab:292901508872273920><:manab:292901508872273920><:manab:292901508872273920><:manab:292901508872273920><:manab:292901508872273920>

Legendary Creature — God
Indestructible
When Zodiark enters, each player sacrifices half the non-God creatures they control of their choice, rounded down.
Whenever a player sacrifices another creature, put a +1/+1 counter on Zodiark.
5/5

[knotty ferry]

And I couldn't remove him

Wait this guy was in ff12

Anyway, I'm gonna buy some more cards today

[golden plover]

Hmm maybe I misjudged Jeskai Mid

But it continues to have the problem every standard deck does rn, in that it's $800

[subtle sierra]

you mean the gwen cheating build?

[golden plover]

Yeah that one

[subtle sierra]

it looked meh to me but i never tried it

[glad peak]

I like that deck

It’s a bit slow for my liking but vigilance haste flying and a big body is just good enough

[sudden lava]

https://media.wizards.com/2026/sos/B1662PTK7X/en_BhtDBk2FVj.webp

https://media.wizards.com/2026/sos/B1662PTK7X/en_PZVSgEctAD.webp

[glad peak]

oh no here comes the youtube slop talking about how broken arcane omens is because it discards 5 cards for 5 mana

[sudden lava]

https://magic.wizards.com/en/news/magic-story/secrets-of-strixhaven-episode-2-travels-and-travails

[sleek ferry]

HOLY, ARCANE OMENS IS BROKEN

@areo

[subtle sierra]

areo will go crazy for the card

which is how we know it sucks

[tardy echo]

Synthesizer is like that

Normally it doesn’t play sketching though

[tardy echo]

These are commander right

[subtle sierra]

no

[tardy echo]

Oh that’s just a weird looking set logo holy

The red card could’ve been a cool instant

[subtle sierra]

it would be cooler if it had x as a cost

imo

if all the converge stuff is gonna be 5+ it's just gonna be boring

[copper pecan]

wow this is absolute dogshit

i can't wait to make my opponent discard cards after they've already played their whole hand

[tardy echo]

Simply just play 2 dark rituals

5 mana 3 cards discard 1 gg

[glad peak]

No you don’t understand, you target yourself after playing and leveling up cool but rude and playing the tiger to get WUBRG

Just casually have 7 cards in hand before this and the payoff is only 10 damage

[subtle sierra]

you can follow up with hidetsugu's

so clearly this is a wincon

[golden plover]

My 10 mana 4.5 (+5 expendable cards) combo

[tardy echo]

[[hidetsugus second rite]]

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https://scryfall.com/card/fdn/202/hidetsugus-second-rite

Hidetsugu's Second Rite <:mana3:292901508771610624><:manar:292901508796645397>

Instant
If target player has exactly 10 life, Hidetsugu's Second Rite deals 10 damage to that player.
Once a mortal ogre, Hidetsugu devoured his demonic patron and transcended mortality in a fit of rage.

[tardy echo]

Deeply unserious card

[glad peak]

You got it rite the second time

[tardy echo]

This is a thugs card

[golden plover]

Was rite ever playable lol

[tardy echo]

Wasn’t it an avengers card

Saviors

Same shit

[glad peak]

There was a standard deck that went pretty far iirc but nothing too serious

[tardy echo]

Wait this card is in standard rn lmfaoooo

[glad peak]

?

[golden plover]

Yeah it's currently in standard

[glad peak]

Oh shit it is

[golden plover]

We should make this deck

[glad peak]

I meant standard back then lol

[sleek ferry]

I got gamed by rite once

[glad peak]

There’s the tiger that gives WUBRG, that saves this deck

[tardy echo]

No I know just realizing it’s in foundations

[knotty ferry]

I just saw this

Bro I hate when the reply doesn't ping

How am I supposed to see it

Sigh

[tardy echo]

Bro maybe you don’t need to see every message

[glad peak]

Just gotta make sure you have enough mana to second rite with cool but rude triggers on the stack and your opponent has even life total

[knotty ferry]

I do

[tardy echo]

Why would I ping you for something that isn’t important

[knotty ferry]

Bc you want me to see it 🙂

[tardy echo]

Maybe I don’t…

[knotty ferry]

Trolling

Bro I just lost a dimir midrange mirror

My kaito got popped

And I lost everything

AHHHH

I'm tilted bro I was so far ahead and then I just got fucked

[tardy echo]

Wow bro that sucks

[knotty ferry]

It does

I hope I don't fall out of silver

I can't be a bronzie

[tardy echo]

I think you’ll be ok

[subtle sierra]

you can't

once you hit what ever rank 4 you can't drop

[knotty ferry]

Interesting

[sleek ferry]

If it makes you feel better spat, even Areo reached plat in arena ranked

[knotty ferry]

That doesn't make me feel better

[sleek ferry]

Oh

[knotty ferry]

I need to get higher

[glad peak]

Someone brought an upgraded UB midrange deck to modern and I was able to see the… uh… kaito

He was mid

[knotty ferry]

Why'd you say it like that

Kaito is broken

[golden plover]

They add new cards to foundations when people aren't looking

[knotty ferry]

Surveil 2 draw 1 is so broken

[glad peak]

He got 1 effect off and then the player got merc’d

[knotty ferry]

What's Merc

[glad peak]

Absolutely murdered

[knotty ferry]

Oh

I thought it was a card lol

[sleek ferry]

UB midrange in modern has [[psychic frog]] access, it can’t be that bad

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https://scryfall.com/card/mh3/199/psychic-frog

Psychic Frog <:manau:292901508754702338><:manab:292901508872273920>

Creature — Frog
Whenever this creature deals combat damage to a player or planeswalker, draw a card.
Discard a card: Put a +1/+1 counter on this creature.
Exile three cards from your graveyard: This creature gains flying until end of turn.
Some frogs poison the body. Some frogs poison the mind.
1/2

[knotty ferry]

Oh yeah vs the black deck I couldn't pop his key monsters cause they were outlaws

[subtle sierra]

ren card...

[knotty ferry]

My shoot the sheriff was USELESS

[glad peak]

Psychic frog is amazing yes

[golden plover]

Like were you aware that [[Finale of Revelation]] was in foundations?

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https://scryfall.com/card/fdn/589/finale-of-revelation

Finale of Revelation <:manax:292901509082120202><:manau:292901508754702338><:manau:292901508754702338>

Sorcery
Draw X cards. If X is 10 or more, instead shuffle your graveyard into your library, draw X cards, untap up to five lands, and you have no maximum hand size for the rest of the game.
Exile Finale of Revelation.
"Brother, your fate has always been bound to mine. Now we have reached the place where they shall both end."

[sleek ferry]

I’ve also seen some people in modern literally just playing superior spiderman + deceit like in standard

[golden plover]

It's the only finale in the set

[knotty ferry]

[[superior spiderman]]

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https://scryfall.com/card/spm/155/superior-spider-man

Superior Spider-Man <:mana2:292901509060886528><:manau:292901508754702338><:manab:292901508872273920>

Legendary Creature — Spider Human Hero
Mind Swap — You may have Superior Spider-Man enter as a copy of any creature card in a graveyard, except his name is Superior Spider-Man and he's a 4/4 Spider Human Hero in addition to his other types. When you do, exile that card.
"I will be Spider-Man. With my unparalleled genius, I shall become the Superior Spider-Man." —Otto Octavius
4/4

[glad peak]

That’s a sus finale to have

[knotty ferry]

Holy

Broken

[golden plover]

But like I said, they randomly add cards to foundations when they feel like it

[glad peak]

I think the deck might accidentally be playable if we get into a super durdly format

[golden plover]

"Guys [[Demonic Pact]] was always in Foundations" - Liars

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https://scryfall.com/card/fdn/602/demonic-pact

Demonic Pact <:mana2:292901509060886528><:manab:292901508872273920><:manab:292901508872273920>

Enchantment
At the beginning of your upkeep, choose one that hasn't been chosen —
• This enchantment deals 4 damage to any target and you gain 4 life.
• Target opponent discards two cards.
• Draw two cards.
• You lose the game.

[sleek ferry]

Foundations is such a funny set, because it literally feels as if a new card gets added every week

[tardy echo]

This is potentially real bc I only found out yesterday rec sage is in foundations

Like surely she wasn’t there the whole time

[sleek ferry]

It’s so funny because we were so down on foundations when it was first announced

[tardy echo]

Or like do you wanna know a really funny one

[sleek ferry]

Iirc the regular play booster boxes were at like $100

[glad peak]

So some cards become more than more broken when we read them more

[tardy echo]

Chat did you know lathiril is standard legal right now

[sleek ferry]

Yes actually

[glad peak]

Lathril’s trash though let’s be honest

[golden plover]

Thunder Dragon Colossus used to do this in TOSS format

[glad peak]

Yes even in commander, especially in commander

[golden plover]

That card gained a new effect every time I read it

[tardy echo]

Don’t hate on elfball

[golden plover]

I had to stop reading it before it gained too many effects

[glad peak]

Lightning is one of those cards that gets worse every time I read her

[sleek ferry]

Just how people randomly remember [[lively dirge]] exists every 8 months

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https://scryfall.com/card/otj/93/lively-dirge

Lively Dirge <:mana1:292901508373282827><:manab:292901508872273920>

Sorcery
Spree (Choose one or more additional costs.)

• — Search your library for a card, put it into your graveyard, then shuffle.
• — Return up to two creature cards with total mana value 4 or less from your graveyard to the battlefield.
  "Now rip your partner from the grave, and form an undead killing wave!"

[golden plover]

Oh my God yeah

Does she still have haste?

[sleek ferry]

Cedh players just found out lively dirge was a good card like last month

[tardy echo]

This card will actually be broken one day I swear

[golden plover]

I think she had haste a few reads ago

[glad peak]

What do you mean she doesn’t trigger off of non-combat player damage FROM HER

[glad peak]

What do you mean, it was tested since launch and it’s only good in very specific decks

[golden plover]

Oh she did lose haste

[tardy echo]

I hope they add regrowth/life from the loam to foundations next shadow drop

[subtle sierra]

they will add explore

[golden plover]

I want GGT and Arclight Phoenix next foundations patch

[tardy echo]

BASED BASED BASED

fastbond in standard when @atomic harness @twilit canyon

[golden plover]

Wait until they add Hogaak and Uro to Foundations

[glad peak]

Give me primeval titan in the next shadowdrop, I can be trusted I swear

[twilit canyon]

hopefully? next set

[subtle sierra]

they might even mix it with another card that draws 2

[tardy echo]

Would ggt even be that good in standard right now…

[subtle sierra]

call it lessons from life or smth

[tardy echo]

Sigh son don’t compare ur simic draw spell to my beautiful sweet darling angel child exploration

[subtle sierra]

the card has lesson in the name it has to be good

[sudden lava]

Bondlands in the precons surely

[golden plover]

On the other hand, I'm 90% sure they patched growth spiral out of foundations

Could've sworn that card was in there

[subtle sierra]

god i'd kill for growth spiral

[tardy echo]

You know who they really should’ve printed in foundations

Omnath…

Chat might not like hearing that though

[subtle sierra]

goldspan dragon

[tardy echo]

Second sickest card ever created

[sudden lava]

If turtles can reprint golgari and gruul bond lands, the precons for the 2 color set can

[golden plover]

They should put more cards I like in foundations

And remove ones I don't like

[subtle sierra]

cavern of souls call dragon, cast goldspan dragon

[glad peak]

Anyone who wants Omnath has never played against it when it was the prominent deck in modern

What do you mean I have to punch through 80 life every game

[sleek ferry]

People are using it for value now as opposed to just a wincon

[glad peak]

Yes, entomb is good

People were playing 3 mana entomb for a while too

[subtle sierra]

who could have thought foolish burial is good

[glad peak]

This is just that with extra potential value

[sleek ferry]

Spree was just such a good mechanic

[sudden lava]

||goldspan reprint hype||

[golden plover]

I got it... Y'all can have omnath in foundations

[sleek ferry]

Despite OTJ being literally the worst draft environment in the last 10 years

[golden plover]

But I pick the omnath

[sleek ferry]

Worse than mudkips cube

[golden plover]

And I'm choosing [[Henrika Domnathi]]

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https://scryfall.com/card/vow/119/henrika-domnathi-henrika-infernal-seer

Henrika Domnathi <:mana2:292901509060886528><:manab:292901508872273920><:manab:292901508872273920>

Legendary Creature — Vampire
Flying
At the beginning of combat on your turn, choose one that hasn't been chosen —
• Each player sacrifices a creature of their choice.
• You draw a card and you lose 1 life.
• Transform Henrika.
1/3

Henrika, Infernal Seer
Legendary Creature — Vampire
Flying, deathtouch, lifelink
: Each creature you control with flying, deathtouch, and/or lifelink gets +1/+0 until end of turn.
"Once you've tasted demon blood, you'll wonder why you ever settled for human."
3/4

[subtle sierra]

reprint is w/e if it's not legal in the format i play anyway

[glad peak]

Damn, you right

[subtle sierra]

the black omnath...

[sleek ferry]

Henrika unironically saw play in a very fringe mono black deck

[golden plover]

Weird they made him mono-black and a vampire lady

But I guess that's what's going on now that he's not compleated

[subtle sierra]

wait there's actually a black omnath

the phyrexian one

[zinc shard]

the phyrexian mana symbol in the center is sick

[golden plover]

I do kinda wish we got regular WUBRG omnath tbh

[golden plover]

See I'm of the opinion that it looks really out of place

[copper pecan]

i'm sure we will once we go back to zendikar

[sleek ferry]

Im actually remembering now that we were stuck in midrange hell in standard pre duskmourn

[glad peak]

I remember people were hyping this up before remembering grief is bad in a control deck and it didn’t do anything on its own

[subtle sierra]

i think we will find rocks in zendikar

chat do you agree

[sleek ferry]

Just remember what I said, we’ll have fetches + triomes in standard

Probably in 2029

[glad peak]

I love how the Omnath deck didnt care to ever cast Omnath other than when you’re going to stabilize and would rather get rid of all their Omnaths to play elementals

[golden plover]

Ya know what omnath was cool in standard?

Temur Omnath

[sleek ferry]

Locus of creation would have been cool in a high powered meta

Not this one, due to the elemental synergy

But like, in beans meta

[tardy echo]

Omnath in a standard that didn’t have three visits and shit would’ve been a lot less gross

Also just saw [[locus of enlightenment]] flip for the first time ever

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https://scryfall.com/card/lci/55/the-enigma-jewel-locus-of-enlightenment

The Enigma Jewel <:manau:292901508754702338>

Legendary Artifact
The Enigma Jewel enters tapped.
: Add . Spend this mana only to activate abilities.
Craft with four or more nonlands with activated abilities (, Exile this artifact, Exile the four or more from among other permanents you control and/or cards in your graveyard: Return this card transformed under its owner's control. Craft only as a sorcery.)

Locus of Enlightenment
Legendary Artifact
Locus of Enlightenment has each activated ability of the exiled cards used to craft it. You may activate each of those abilities only once each turn.
Whenever you activate an ability that isn't a mana ability, copy it. You may choose new targets for the copy.

[tardy echo]

Probably the last time ever also

[golden plover]

Speaking of that card, apparently Affinity has a card that says Affinity and Draw 4 now?

[sleek ferry]

you talking about krang?

yes, this was known

[golden plover]

Yeah I hadn't seen it until now

Hey TMNT might have all of 4 good cards then

[glad peak]

So as much as I don’t really think Rog ishai is great into most matchups, it beats midrange blue decks so guess I’m going in on it

• these arts are amazing

[sleek ferry]

Im assuming you’re proxying them

Since only Adam is rich enough to drop $500 on each one

[glad peak]

Joshua’s about 180 and benedikta’s apparently only a dollar or 2

[sleek ferry]

Oh huh, 1 was a magic fest promo and the other was in the set

I would know this if attempting to buy FF sealed wasn’t just the biggest uphill climb ever

[past socket]

Ishai is really neat

Friend who encouraged me into getting into Magic was a religious Ishai Jeska player, though more controlly

[glad peak]

Jeska ishai’s a pretty classic control deck that has an infinite mana outlet and a potential commander only wincon

Rog ishai’s much more controlling and Rog is literally only there to make mana and cheat costs

[golden plover]

https://m.twitch.tv/magic/clip/BlatantFairDumplingsDatSheffy-bmJbfkHhQRRNOehB?desktop-redirect=true

"We don't care as much about where you can play, we care about what you can play"

Just outright say y'all hate pioneer lol. There's no "where" and the format is all of recent standards worst hits lol

Honestly at this point they should just kill the format since it's all Izzet mistakes

[sudden lava]

picked up these 5 today, the Alania and outburst both in foil

[tardy echo]

lol just watched a Kona player use north wind avatar as invasion of arcavios

Time really is a circle

[subtle sierra]

we're going there next set so why not

[tardy echo]

Speaking of can we please get more battles holy

What a cool card type that was apparently just a set gimmick

Imagine if wotc never printed artifacts after urza block (the game would be good)

[twilit canyon]

https://tenor.com/view/true-feel-that-thats-true-gif-7410050725709839510

[subtle sierra]

artifacts should have stayed uncolored

[fallow citrus]

there should be more broken affinity cards

[tardy echo]

Only if they give me more broken enchantment cards too…

[fallow citrus]

🤝

[hidden ermine]

Imagine if they never printed instants again

[twilit canyon]

mtg bad end

[subtle sierra]

i don't want scuffed hearthstone

granted i assume abilities could still be instant speed

they'd just move spells into creatures

[hidden ermine]

That'd be my guess too

I'm curious how that would work out

[subtle sierra]

eh, i could see it being interesting, but you'll have slow games unless you also make the ability cost only sacrificing the creature

or exhaust

but also, why make it so convoluted

[golden plover]

I'm from the timeline where they stopped printing creatures

[subtle sierra]

the only upside i see would be that it would be an interesting way to bait spells by using removal

[golden plover]

Out top modern decks are Mono-White Burn, Grixis Control, Mono-Green Burn, and Something called Boros Energy

[twilit canyon]

lol

[subtle sierra]

most of the time i play my control creatureless so like

not that i'd feel it

unless you also take away my tokens

don't touch my monks

[twilit canyon]

if swiftspear had never been printed i'd never stick to mtg

[golden plover]

Yeah we don't have tokens either

Unless you count the hive

[subtle sierra]

not even manlands?

sigh

unserious game

[tardy echo]

Mtg but every creature is a planeswalker

And every planeswalker is Gideon

[subtle sierra]

every planeswalker is kaito*

[sleek ferry]

Interesting question that I’m not sure anybody would know, but I was sorting my collection and have a shit load of full art basics (as I’m sure most people do). What full art basics are the most pricy?

[golden plover]

The judge ones are about $100 each

Guru is obviously the most expensive basic

Most expensive basic from a set is one of the crimson cow ones, about $8 each

[sleek ferry]

Damn in your timeline they released crimson cow? We had crimson vow personally

[twilit canyon]

in my timeline they released crimson dow

which is over 50,000

[golden plover]

Hey better than the timeline where they released crimson low and the set sucked

Oh wait...

[sleek ferry]

Going back to innistrad was a mistake to please the boomers

And then we made another mistake to please the boomers in brothers war

But we don’t talk about that

[golden plover]

Nah Midnight Hunt was good

Vow was just half baked

And BRO was bad, but not because it tried to appease the boomers. It tried to cover way too much ground in one set and failed at really getting any of it right

Honestly VOW is probably the first real "Hat set"

Since it's "We're on innistrad, but everyone is at a wedding"

[sleek ferry]

Card design in vow was so easy to fix

Like [[cemetery gatekeeper]]

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https://scryfall.com/card/vow/148/cemetery-gatekeeper

Cemetery Gatekeeper <:mana1:292901508373282827><:manar:292901508796645397>

Creature — Vampire
First strike
When this creature enters, exile a card from a graveyard.
Whenever a player plays a land or casts a spell, if it shares a card type with the exiled card, this creature deals 2 damage to that player.
2/1

[sleek ferry]

Should have just been 1 sided

And it should have triggered on enter or attack

[golden plover]

Wasn't the black one of this cycle enters or attacks?

[[Cemetery Trespasser]]

[lost widget]

No card found for “Cemetery Trespasser”

[golden plover]

[[Graveyard Trespasser]]

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https://scryfall.com/card/mid/104/graveyard-trespasser-graveyard-glutton

Graveyard Trespasser <:mana2:292901509060886528><:manab:292901508872273920>

Creature — Human Werewolf
Ward—Discard a card.
Whenever this creature enters or attacks, exile up to one target card from a graveyard. If a creature card was exiled this way, each opponent loses 1 life and you gain 1 life.
Daybound (If a player casts no spells during their own turn, it becomes night next turn.)
3/3

Graveyard Glutton
Creature — Werewolf
Ward—Discard a card.
Whenever this creature enters or attacks, exile up to two target cards from graveyards. For each creature card exiled this way, each opponent loses 1 life and you gain 1 life.
Nightbound (If a player casts at least two spells during their own turn, it becomes day next turn.)
4/4

[golden plover]

Oh she was Hunt

No wonder she wasn't bad

[sleek ferry]

I didn’t like innistrad standard in general

Once we got to the Kamigawa everything changed for the good

[golden plover]

You didn't like Esper being the king and picking what flavor of aggro to play?

[sleek ferry]

No, also, SNC ended up having the best Halloween themed card

[[corpse appraiser]]

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https://scryfall.com/card/snc/178/corpse-appraiser

Corpse Appraiser <:manau:292901508754702338><:manab:292901508872273920><:manar:292901508796645397>

Creature — Vampire Rogue
When this creature enters, exile up to one target creature card from a graveyard. If a card is put into exile this way, look at the top three cards of your library, then put one of those cards into your hand and the rest into your graveyard.
"Scarcely a mark. A true work of art!"
3/3

[sleek ferry]

This as an uncommon was crazy

Grixis vamps were so fun

[stark skiff]

Glad wizards learned to not appease the boomers and is appealing to us young bucks

[sleek ferry]

Facts, give me my big head dark Leo and shredder fractured foil

[golden plover]

https://www.mtgo.com/news/mtgo032426

Looks like they're testing going back to 2 year standard lol

[trail anvil]

please I need it

[golden plover]

Honestly

2 year standard was correct, I'll be very happy to see it go back

[tardy echo]

(They just printed eclipse)

Let’s try 1 year standard and 2 year standard and 3 year standard and 4 year standard all at once

While we’re at it let’s try 5 and 6 and 7 and 8 year standard

[copper pecan]

i liked brothers' war

pro tip for brothers' war draft: take as many copies of [[take flight]] as you can

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https://scryfall.com/card/bro/65/take-flight

Take Flight <:mana3:292901508771610624><:manau:292901508754702338>

Enchantment — Aura
Enchant creature
Enchanted creature gets +1/+0 and has flying and "Whenever this creature attacks, draw a card."
Though neither brother cared to admit it, flying the ancient thopter was their last happy moment together.

[copper pecan]

card is cracked in limited

[sleek ferry]

I would be extremely sad to go back to 2 year standard tbh

I rather we keep 3 and make the release schedule a bit tighter

Changer it from a set every 1.5 months to a little over 2

[copper pecan]

they've said they're going back to 6 sets a year next year iirc

[sleek ferry]

That’s perfect imo

Make it 4 in universe and 2 UB and it would literally be perfect

[trail anvil]

I want faster rotation for weaker and less solved standard

[sleek ferry]

They’re contracted for 1 more marvel set though so that’s unlikely next year

[trail anvil]

give some room for pioneer lol

[copper pecan]

pioneer is high-key deadge right now tbh

there just isn't much of an appeal for it at the moment

[sleek ferry]

Yeah I think you just give up on pioneer and make it an arena only format

[golden plover]

Honestly they really should do a slaughter list in pioneer (and unban dumb shit like Winota) and shake up the format stupid hard, then support it again

Kill Vivi, Kill Cori, Thoughtseize, Treasure Cruise

[copper pecan]

yeah i think that's pretty much the only way they could get people to be interested in pioneer at this point

[sleek ferry]

You def need to give it different power points than modern and standard

[stark skiff]

https://tenor.com/view/plankton-spongebob-yes-come-to-papa-gif-14845992959424130174

[tardy echo]

Some of the old broken pioneer decks were sick but now it just feels like such a nothing format

The hour of promise field of the dead deck was fuego

[knotty ferry]

im tilted bro

i just lost to some blue red otter deck

I CANNOT DO SHIT TO THESE ARTIFACTS BRO

[sleek ferry]

I just saw somebody open a draft pack of WoE in front of me, and they pulled beseech the mirror + necropotence

[tardy echo]

chosen by god

I lowkey forgot you could pull the mystic tale cards in draft

Or whatever they’re called

[sleek ferry]

Enchanted tales, also it’s 1 per pack

Like mystical archives

But usually you pull some unusable garbage like [[spreading the seas]]

[knotty ferry]

[[qarsi revenant]]

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https://scryfall.com/card/tdm/86/qarsi-revenant

Qarsi Revenant <:mana1:292901508373282827><:manab:292901508872273920><:manab:292901508872273920>

Creature — Vampire
Flying, deathtouch, lifelink
Renew — , Exile this card from your graveyard: Put a flying counter, a deathtouch counter, and a lifelink counter on target creature. Activate only as a sorcery.
"Evil wears many faces. Keep your windows closed at night, or it might wear yours." —Sultai warning
3/3

[knotty ferry]

I see a lot of dimir decks siding this (some main), what's it for?

I can deduce the reasoning for most other side cards I see but this one doesn't make sense

Like it's a good creature, I guess if you're vs a flying deck and you want deathtouch to force out cards before bigger threats attack?

[tardy echo]

It’s v v good in the mirror

And in general much more effective in midrange/tempo matchups

[knotty ferry]

Actually that makes sense

Blocks basically every direct attack so your opp can't generate advantage

[tardy echo]

Against midrange decks it’s basically a double removal spell that also gives you 6 life

Or it’ll force removal spells that aren’t directed at your other threatening creatures and still have value afterwards

[knotty ferry]

Yeah

Ok makes sense

Holy fuck this art is insane

HOLY SHIT I WISH I HAD INFINITE MONEY

[tardy echo]

It’s not as useful against other decks bc against control none of its modes really matter and aggro will have already applied a ton of pressure by the time it’s attacking

Yeah this card has 3 diff beautiful arts

[knotty ferry]

Oh wtf

Looks like the guy from spirited away

https://tenor.com/view/かみ太-gif-6611489068243536971

[tardy echo]

The qarsi are nagas/snake people

So I’m p sure this is just a zombie naga which is sick as hell

[subtle sierra]

Well it's a vampire so technically undead

[tardy echo]

Shut up nerd

Also I think revenant is a v prime example of a card that would have made everybody’s head fucking explode if they printed it back in Jackal Pup days

[subtle sierra]

[knotty ferry]

Also

[[wan shi tong, librarian]]

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https://scryfall.com/card/tla/78/wan-shi-tong-librarian

Wan Shi Tong, Librarian <:manax:292901509082120202><:manau:292901508754702338><:manau:292901508754702338>

Legendary Creature — Bird Spirit
Flash
Flying, vigilance
When Wan Shi Tong enters, put X +1/+1 counters on him. Then draw half X cards, rounded down.
Whenever an opponent searches their library, put a +1/+1 counter on Wan Shi Tong and draw a card.
1/1

[subtle sierra]

It's for landfall

[knotty ferry]

am I misunderstanding this

Yeah

In side

[subtle sierra]

They like lands that search

[knotty ferry]

I see a lot main

Is that just a meta clal

Call

[subtle sierra]

Mostly

[tardy echo]

Yes

[knotty ferry]

Because generically, it's 4 mana for a +1

[subtle sierra]

It's a good card overall

[knotty ferry]

Which seems shit

[tardy echo]

It’s still a decent card without though

[knotty ferry]

Really?

I guess flying and vigilance are okay

[subtle sierra]

You can drop it for 2 to have a 2/2 vigilance flyer that drew a card

It's great

[tardy echo]

It’s both flash and scaling cost

[subtle sierra]

It has flash you can drop it when they search

[knotty ferry]

Wait wouldn't it be 1/1 since you get 0 counters?

[tardy echo]

For reference uh

[knotty ferry]

What does drop for 2 mean

If you make x 2, it would be 3/3?

No?

[subtle sierra]

They use fabled pasage

[tardy echo]

[hydroid krassis] was a very very very strong card

[subtle sierra]

You drop washington

It's 2/2

[tardy echo]

[[hydroid krassis]]

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https://scryfall.com/card/clu/195/hydroid-krasis

Hydroid Krasis <:manax:292901509082120202><:manag:292901508654301185><:manau:292901508754702338>

Creature — Jellyfish Hydra Beast
When you cast this spell, you gain half X life and draw half X cards. Round down each time.
Flying, trample
This creature enters with X +1/+1 counters on it.
Havoc is a small price to pay for data.
0/0

[knotty ferry]

Am I misunderstanding x

Lol

[subtle sierra]

No

I'm saying you chain shared ride to a search

Wan shi tong is shared ride

[knotty ferry]

I'm talking about this

[subtle sierra]

So am i

[knotty ferry]

What does drop for 2 mean

[subtle sierra]

X=0

[knotty ferry]

So then it's 1/1

[subtle sierra]

No

[knotty ferry]

Oh dude

[subtle sierra]

I said specifically to drop it on a search

[knotty ferry]

I didn't read the 2nd part properly

Lol

[subtle sierra]

Lol

[knotty ferry]

The shared ride part I understood I just didn't realize it put a counter

Ok, that's pretty good

Does surveil or explore or all that shit count as searching

Or that 1 blue mana spell that looks at top 2 and adds 1

Or does it literally have to say search for this to trigger

[subtle sierra]

No

Searches say search your deck

[[fabled passage]]

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https://scryfall.com/card/tmc/67/fabled-passage

Fabled Passage

Land
, Sacrifice this land: Search your library for a basic land card, put it onto the battlefield tapped, then shuffle. Then if you control four or more lands, untap that land.

[knotty ferry]

Yeah

Ok

Just wanted to make sure it wasn't like in ygo where searching is adding and all that shit

[trail anvil]

I mean mtg is a lot more explicit about using the word search in its text, but the actions that cause actual searching should be pretty similar

explore would be kinda similar to excavating

[tardy echo]

Search is just mechanics that have you look in your library

It doesn’t necessarily need to be adds or whatever but it’ll always say search

[knotty ferry]

Untapped.gg does that for me

[tardy echo]

Ie lively dirge counts as a search

[glad peak]

Isnt this cheap? I have one in my bag just chilling because I forget to put him out of my box

Yeah it’s 83 cents

Huh ancestral recall’s coming into standard

Actual factual ancestral recall, not that poser you need lessons for

||yes there’s a catch, no I’m not gonna elaborate||

[trail anvil]

that poser with the lessons is 2 mana anyways

[stark skiff]

Me too

[glad peak]

Bro’s freaking out about $2 cards

First the ishai now the revenant

[stark skiff]

Let’s go back to our prediction market gambling

[glad peak]

Hell yeah

I predict I will have my deck on me tomorrow

[subtle sierra]

You're rich

[glad peak]

Lines are 50/50 people

[subtle sierra]

HOLY FUCK

[twilit canyon]

hello???

im guessing you can only cast when prepared

[subtle sierra]

This isn't adventure/omen tho

[twilit canyon]

but holy fuck

[subtle sierra]

Ye

It's prob prepare

[twilit canyon]

8 cards in grave is not a real cost

[subtle sierra]

He enters prepared

[twilit canyon]

6 mana 5/5 flyer with ward 2 that ancestral recalls

[subtle sierra]

Ye that's still insane

[twilit canyon]

no no yeah i was going over how this is the worst case scenario

enters too

hello reanimator/blink

[subtle sierra]

Imagine if this was omen tho

[twilit canyon]

hmm depends

i feel like giving it omen would require something more

cus u probs cant actually let it be that immortal

[subtle sierra]

You have to behold a wizard

[twilit canyon]

requires 2 kill spells upped by ward 2 to kill?

mmmm i guess

tho in a control shell... that can sometimes just be a defacto scenario

thinking outside of standard

this + snapcasters

the raw upsides...

[subtle sierra]

Actually i think we could make an instant that costs like 2 and has additional cost of beholding something that draws 3

This isn't that far from having 3 lessons

[twilit canyon]

hmmm tho

hmmmmmmmm

i guess

i think the only thing i can think of is that it probably can end up feeling bad

[trail anvil]

I'm gonna guess this is like exhaust that can reload with that condition to prepare it again?

[subtle sierra]

Probably

I assume not everything will enter prepared

Otherwise they wouldn't need the line

[trail anvil]

if you just have to pay a single blue mana that seems like arcanis updated for the current day?

but you can't cheat its effect onto another creature with cauldron

well then

[subtle sierra]

Holy

[trail anvil]

"equal to the mana spent to cast that spell" makes it better than mana drain vs X spells but worse vs discounted spells like overlords

[glad peak]

Told you

[trail anvil]

holy big spells commander

I'm loving the izzet big spells archetype so much here

[glad peak]

Zaffai is a nonbo with opus

[trail anvil]

oof so it is

[twilit canyon]

its fine zaffai is kinda asd

ass

[sudden lava]

It gives you ancestral recall huh

neat

[trail anvil]

zaffai is purely a johnny commander lol

unless somebody wants to be boring and make it extra turn tribal

[zinc shard]

Strixhaven cards in TMNT packs

Were the people packing all these cards drunk?

[subtle sierra]

They're not paid enough to care

[trail anvil]

they can totally handle 7 standard legal sets a year

[past socket]

Zaffai and their band will bring feds a bit too but I can see the inner Johnny dancing with joy for folks

[trail anvil]

if I can land them I just wanna cast something like [[dance with calamity]]

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https://scryfall.com/card/moc/29/dance-with-calamity

Dance with Calamity <:mana7:292901508540792835><:manar:292901508796645397>

Sorcery
Shuffle your library. As many times as you choose, you may exile the top card of your library. If the total mana value of the cards exiled this way is 13 or less, you may cast any number of spells from among those cards without paying their mana costs.
It was just another day on Innistrad.

[subtle sierra]

Wait is this card just blackjack?

[trail anvil]

ye lol it's hilarious

gets the whole table involved cause you could totally go balls to the wall and bust

I also love stuff like [[elminster's simulacrum]]

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https://scryfall.com/card/clb/68/elminsters-simulacrum

Elminster's Simulacrum <:mana4:292901508712890379><:manau:292901508754702338><:manau:292901508754702338>

Instant
For each opponent, you create a token that's a copy of up to one target creature that player controls.
"Why simply sit back and applaud the good ideas of others when I can improve upon them?" —Elminster

[atomic harness]

Thank you komi

[golden plover]

Wait Emeritus is ridiculous

[trail anvil]

I feel like its strength depends on how preparing works

[golden plover]

Mana Sculpt is also silly

I know we were all hoping Izzet would be the best deck in standard again, it's been so long

[subtle sierra]

Mana sculpt is good but you kiiiinda need a 2 cost wizard for it

The best one is like thundertrap

I'm not playing palamecia for it lol

Ashling is a wizard but only transformed so you can't t2 ashling t3 have a live sculpt

But like if you t2 thundertrap t3 sculpt smth that's 2-3 it goes crazy af

T4 jeskai revelation baby

Just give me a good 2 cost wizard with flash and I'm in your debt forever wotc

I won't even complain about arena

The options for flash are not good TM

[sleek ferry]

Wonder how prepared works

[subtle sierra]

Probably can cast the second part of it as a spell if the creature is prepared

Is my deduction

[golden plover]

Yeah that's how it reads to me too

Calling it now: the red one is a 2 mana 2/1 thst prepares bolt on entry and whenever he attacks

[sleek ferry]

So 5 mana 5/5 that ancestral recalls?

[sudden lava]

Im guessing once you cast the prepared spell you have to prepare it again because Emeritus enters prepared but also has an ability to prepare

[golden plover]

I think it's 5 + 1 for the recall

But a 5 mana 5/5 flier with ward is already on rate

Especially one that gives you a free treasure cruise here and there

[sleek ferry]

It become much worse if prepared goes on the stack imo,

[golden plover]

I mean, if they spend 3 mana to counter the recall you're still winning that exchange

Especially considering you can reset it

[sleek ferry]

Nah, as in; wizard enters, etb trigger to prepare goes on the stack

Actually, thats almost surely how it works

Which would make this less fringe outside cheating it in

Actually maybe not, since it says that it enters prepared

[trail anvil]

I mean if it didn't go on the stack what's the point in giving the type line to ancestral recall

oh prepared itself sorry misread

let's hope that it doesn't ig

[subtle sierra]

It enters prepared, idt that goes on stack

[golden plover]

Yeah I feel like there's no way prepared uses the stack

[trail anvil]

I think if it did use the stack it'd say "When this creature enters, prepare it"

[subtle sierra]

Tbf i think other instances will prob use it

Just not this card

[trail anvil]

well this card does, but just on its attack trigger

[subtle sierra]

The second ability def goes on stack

Yeah

[golden plover]

Yeah moreso meant that the mechanic isn't worded in a way that implies the stack

Also really funny cedh application of this guy: Ancestral an opponent in response to their Thoracle trigger

[trail anvil]

while the idea is funny you could probably just leave at least 3 cards in the library and get your devotion high enough

[golden plover]

Nah Thoracle always wants to be on an empty library, but this would be telegraphed so I guess it wouldn't matter lol

Besides, the best anti-thoracle tech is [[Angel's Grace]]

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https://scryfall.com/card/tsr/4/angels-grace

Angel's Grace <:manaw:1007102126813610074>

Instant
Split second (As long as this spell is on the stack, players can't cast spells or activate abilities that aren't mana abilities.)
You can't lose the game this turn and your opponents can't win the game this turn. Until end of turn, damage that would reduce your life total to less than 1 reduces it to 1 instead.

[golden plover]

1 mana "target opponent loses the game"

[knotty ferry]

Yeah I want foil of everything tho

[knotty ferry]

Move out of california

[subtle sierra]

Reminder that modern foils suck

If you want pringles they're cheaper to get in walmart

And they're edible

[sleek ferry]

tbf if you double sleeve them right away, they don't pringle

I have a bunch of foils that are perfectly flat

[subtle sierra]

Boy i wish my get losts weren't

[knotty ferry]

I'll sleeve mine immediately

Double

Regardless the borderless arts look cool

Some of them at least

This one is insane LOL

[subtle sierra]

that tish art is insane

i love it

[sleek ferry]

Tishana’s tidebinder the goat

[golden plover]

After testing Izzet Prowess in standard: Yeah, Stormchasers is not okay

[knotty ferry]

I played vs that deck yesterday

That shit was crazy

[glad peak]

Apparently there’s another leak with the rules text and it reads:

“If this creature is prepared, you may cast its prepared instant or sorcery. Timing rules still apply. If you cast a spell this way, this creature becomes unprepared as the spell resolves"

It implies that you can ancestral recall for as much blue mana as you have all in one go but rules will probably not allow that

And maro’s post recently basically confirms bolt

[subtle sierra]

this wording implies it also creates a real card from thin air

it doesn't say it's a copy

i do not fancy grabbing an actual ancestral recall then putting it into my gy to recast with shiko

i doubt it works like that but lol

[golden plover]

Damn that means the white and green ones suck ass

[sleek ferry]

Green channel

Let’s go

[golden plover]

Nah "referencing an alpha cycle". Green is Giant Growth

[subtle sierra]

give me explore or give me death

[glad peak]

Death it is

[subtle sierra]

i was about to say prepare on landfall then i figured that'd be pretty bad

i wonder if we'll get a card with "target creature becomes prepared"

[golden plover]

The white one better just let you play healing salve whenever lol

If it's a mythic that's healing salve prepared it's gonna suck shit

Predicting the whole prepared alpha cycle

Red: 2 mana 2/1 with haste, bolt is prepared on etb and whenever it deals combat damage
White: 2 mana 1/1 with lifelink and the ajani's pride mate effect. Prepares salve on etb and each upkeep (each time you gain life if they wanna push it)
Black: 3 mana 2/3 or something with deathtouch. Prepares dark ritual on etb and you can sacc a creature to prepare it
Green: 4 mana 5/5 trample. Prepares giants growth on etb and either landfall or whenever you play a creature

[subtle sierra]

no way were getting the black one

def not for 3 mana

[glad peak]

Apparently there’s another leak with the rules text and it reads:

“If this creature is prepared, you may cast its prepared instant or sorcery. Timing rules still apply. If you cast a spell this way, this creature becomes unprepared as the spell resolves"

If these are actually the rules then the bolt one will have to be significantly more expensive

[subtle sierra]

that's just the same text

[sleek ferry]

I was about to say lol

[glad peak]

Oh whoops already posted that here

[subtle sierra]

lmao

[golden plover]

True, probably 4 or 5 mana ngl

[subtle sierra]

ngl i'd say 7

[sleek ferry]

4 mana seems fine

[golden plover]

Nah, just slap a once per turn on it

[subtle sierra]

no way we're letting this into standard

oh sure opt then 4-5 is fine

i thought there was no opt and like lol

[glad peak]

I would love to bolt you for as much red mana I have for 1 card

[golden plover]

Is it not one and done?

[glad peak]

The rules text imply nope

[sleek ferry]

It is one and done

[golden plover]

I'd assume it'd be rules that you cast it and can't cast it again until it's repreapared

[sleek ferry]

Since the creature becomes unprepared

[glad peak]

“As the spell resolves” is the main thing

[golden plover]

Yeah but I'm sure they won't rule it that way

[subtle sierra]

if that's the actual text then it's fucked

[golden plover]

Almost certain we'd get a day 0 errata on the mechanic

[glad peak]

You can cast, hold prio (since spell hasn’t resolved yet) then cast over and over

It will very likely get an errata

[subtle sierra]

i would want an image before i believe it

[glad peak]

Rules text is fucked if it were that

[golden plover]

If they don't do that, then prepare is the most broken mechanic of all time

[subtle sierra]

otherwise it's the sneak thing where they mention in actual rules it's instant timing

otherwise creatures and sorcs with sneak wouldn't work

[glad peak]

Even without that sneak would work since it’s an ability that only works in a certain time frame

Otherwise ninjitsu wouldn’t work

[subtle sierra]

(You may cast this spell for {3}{W/B} if you also return an unblocked attacker you control to hand during the declare blockers step. It enters tapped and attacking.)

ninjutsu is an ability

sneak is an alternative cost