#Magic the Gathering
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Why were they hyping this up so much
Because I think they actually were going to hit rhystic etc but got cold feet so changed it
Yeah Thoracle should've fucking died honestly
"Thassa's oracle mostly is shown as enjoyed by the competitive community and doesnt show anywhere else"
"Many people love rhystic study"
it really shouldn't have died
Gavin said these two probably arent going for a while
I dont mind thassa in cedh either yea
The Thoracle thing is the same thing they said about dockside for like 3 years before killing it
also if rhystic dies then why would we be keeping remora, smothering tithe etc
I think rhystic is annoying and can artificially lengthen games but it's whatever
The PTW crew has been vocal that banning Thoracle would actively make CEDH worse
Especially at the tournament level
ban thoracle to make tournaments take 2 days to finish 1 bracket
literally
Yeah that’s the legit argument
wotc loves that argument so it probably is never getting banned
Yeah I dont agree with banning thassa
see yorion etc
dwai
Thassa’s is fine, there will always be a best win condition, at least this is a (generally) 2 card combo that doesn’t have in-commander support
Rhystic really dodged bans because sol ring dodged the ban let’s be honest 
idt sol ring will ever get hit it's like brainstorm in legacy
Yeah, rhystic is in that category
No, despite what it looks like, breach requires a ton of things to go right if you want to win with 1 card
Yes, having things in grave is easy but it’s still a restriction and often early on breach is a liability
Yeah rhystic also has the caveat of being literally unplayable in every single format not named commander
If they ban rhystic, they can’t use it to sell product
It’s the most dogshit good card ever
They banned jeweled lotus tho 
That was a mistake tbf
JL should realistically come back, but I think WotC is getting cold feet on actually pulling that trigger
Ehh Jewel Lotus is totally fine to stay banned ngl
It's a really uninteresting card with very few reasons to not run it
If your commander is WUBRG or whatever, sure
Agreed
Unban biorhythm is a little silly that card literally only gets played to make the game as unenjoyable as possible
I don't think unbanning it will break anything
But I guess it checks out considering they also let thoracle go
It’s uninteresting but it also increases the number of cedh decks in the format
But Jeweled Lotus is also not that exciting
Ehh Biorhythm is totally fine because it can at least close out the game
JL expands the cedh pool and I’m pretty sad those decks died (especially tevesh kraum)
I mean the card is completely fine
My hot take is that [[Sway the Stars]] should've never been unbanned
It's not too strong
It just will literally never feel good
But this accomplishes literally nothing and just drags the game out forever
There's not even a way to combo with sway
It's just a dick move
Like unbanning biorhythm is like if ygo unbanned jowgen
The combo is having a cheap way to deal 7 to all quick
Its not really an actual concerning card competitively but it contributes nothing good to anybody’s play experience 
I mean you lose literally everything
So you've gotta draw back into your way to do 7 yeah
If it was an instant it would be lit 
I dunno, Sway is a lame ass card and one of the few times I'd be visibily annoyed if someone played it
I mean it’s boring for sure
It’s in the same category as biorhythm for me but feels considerably less egregious about how feelsbad it is
I dunno, 99% of the time if a biorythm resolves they've already won or will win next turn
If a sway resolves we're literally back to step 1
You’re at 7 life you will lose when you pass to your opponent with all their resources and a full hand
It’s just the opposite of biorhythm 
Everybody else’s chances of winning goes up by an extremely notable margin
Pogger
Necro is such a cool card so I’m almost a little sad but it is indubitably broken
oh historic is gonna be fun fun i see
merfolk about to be a real deck in the format is my guess
[[Ajani Nacatl Pariah]]
Legendary Creature — Cat Warrior
When Ajani enters, create a 2/1 white Cat Warrior creature token.
Whenever one or more other Cats you control die, you may exile Ajani, then return him to the battlefield transformed under his owner's control.
His pride denied him; his brother did not.
1/2
Ajani, Nacatl Avenger
Legendary Planeswalker — Ajani
+2: Put a +1/+1 counter on each Cat you control.
0: Create a 2/1 white Cat Warrior creature token. When you do, if you control a red permanent other than Ajani, he deals damage equal to the number of creatures you control to any target.
−4: Each opponent chooses an artifact, a creature, an enchantment, and a planeswalker from among the nonland permanents they control, then sacrifices the rest.
Loyalty: 3
This card is stupid strong
There was talk about it being banned in modern because of energy
Ajani is stupid lmao
It didn't get the ban, but like 3 other cards did lol
I assume all of those are banned in historic too and it's still too good?
Easy to flip and when flipped does literally anything you want
nope
guide nerfed to cost 4 energy
ocelot was made a 2 drop
ajani banned now
Huh
this is a pre-emptive ban tho bc energy purely was unplayable and the samwise combo list was volatile
He didnt really seem that strong to me but I guess Im a bit rusty with magic
eldrazi dominated historic discourse
but temple ban should help along with magus and harbinger
A 2 mana 2/1 + 1/2 that has upside is pretty stupid 
Why is it so annoying to get a Zuran orb
the floor is a 2 mana 3/3 worth of stats
the ceiling is a grind engine and removal piece
Btw secret lair drop in 3 minutes
Is it gonna have lutri and biorhythm in it?
Fov and Fon we are so back
I didn’t realize the other 3 weren’t on arena actually
not that they’d be huge
ehhh
fod is fine ig
i'd add the other 3 just to have them but they would still suck
It’s just kinda weird imo to only have half a cycle
It’s not like you’re wasting actual cardboard reprinting them in fake arena sets anyways
Also as a random aside is it me or does it feel like Tarkir 3 color pairs get much more love from wotc than Alara shards do
biorythmn is unbanned
...that was banned?
One of my finest wins yet vs burn
I had to overcome 3 novas
Songcrafter carried so hard
My reasoning for being anti-JLO is vibes-based and primarily out of spite for terrible people
wait I forgot biorhythm is even funnier than I remember
imagine the etali player goes t1 etali flips it off the top
win
if you're going t1 Etali you're probably winning regardless lol
was gonna say at that point you probably have enough card advantage to nuke a city
my commanders always take a random hit in alchemy rebalances, poor kona 
hopefully we do see less of val as a linear combo deck
yay wildcard day though
yeah it's just funny though
i caved guys
lol
i bought the gale and shadowheart secret lair
frst secret lair bought
because i like bg3 a lot
and why not 
https://archidekt.com/decks/19834524/shadowheart_dragons
now trying to build new shadowheart deck, kinda like the idea actually, anyone have fun idea for wincon that isnt just reanimate / rise of the dark realms hardy harr harr
cause i think thats kinda lame and maybe there is a cooler way to end games
idk
My b&r take that matters
Thassa’s you can kinda argue ig
Rhystic has no excuse to be in the format
“People love it” is a fake argument
The only people who love it are the people who play it on the field
With that argument literally dont hit any card ever
eh it's fine as a game changer. it's an annoying card but it fits perfectly in that slot imo
Ok so
You know how sometimes a table can blow up at a player for not using their removal spell on the obvious problem card
That kind of feeling is what Rhystic can bring out the most
And it inherently brings it out very often
With most strong cards the “hate” is usually thrown at the guy playing the card itself
Only does it get redirected when someone casts removal (AKA: A way to workaround the card) and then decides not to
Everyone gets the chance to workaround Rhystic and can decide not to every single time they cast a spell and dont pay the 1
tbh this is why i'm so critical about sol ring not getting banned
if you don't ban a card that's pervasive in every deck and absurdly powerful because people love it, then what's the point
idk I feel like anyone can just not remove a problem card and watch as it festers, that doesn't seem like the strongest argument to me
Well at the very least you didn’t show your removal spell
same criticism i have for brainstorm but at least there you have options outside of "you must play brainstorm or you're at a disadvantage"
I think it's less that people love sol ring and more that it's iconic to the format and it's sunken cost fallacy with all the precon printings
In the case of rhystic you outwardly present that you can play around it
And then don’t
Tbf I just don’t think sol ring is rly a card that should be banned
I’m a believer in the “people can gang up on the sol ring player” argument
is this not just the same irresponsible pod that doesn't play much removal to begin with
At least unlike Rhystic Sol Ring doesn’t outwardly punish you for trying to gang up against it
I feel like half-responsible pods either say "I'll pay the 1" or "I recognize that I'm behind on this board state and can't afford to pay the 1"
It isn’t because the irresponsible players just get mad at the strong card and potentially the player playing the strong card
In the case of rhystic you get mad at the player not paying the 1
Whether you’re a responsible pod or not
sol ring having the "people can just gang up on them" thing doesn't really help when you're 2-ish turns ahead of them because of sol ring
why are the irresponsible players getting mad at it I'm confused
wouldn't the responsible players be mad because they're paying and the irresponsible players aren't
I mean irresponsible players as in players that don’t run enough removal
don't players that not run removal get mad at every strong threat because they can't answer it and complain it's op
tbh "just run removal" doesn't really help here since no one's going to remove a sol ring even if it's the right play
it applies to both, too often i've seen people not remove rhystic because "it's just 1 mana"
that's pretty poor reasoning, that's 1 mana x however many spells are cast in the game total
tbh i'm just at the point where i just say people just play what they want, the banlist wasn't ever gonna make sense so there's no reason to try to make sense of it
it is, but people will always find reasons to use removal on things other than rhystic
I think tergrid has a better argument for a ban than rhystic study tbh
I understand it's in the command zone so there's a rule 0 conversation, but I think that card is just unenjoyable both for the pilot and everyone else
i've legit seen people say "why would i remove rhystic, it's just drawing cards"
usually followed up by "they still have to cast their spells"
I'm still amazed they almost considered unbanning iona really, that was my biggest takeaway from the article
yeah iona's surprising
if they're so against locking people out of the game, why bring her back of all things
even beyond the initial "monocolor deck lockout" argument, even shutting down one color vs multicolor could be nasty
gristlebrand i understand because he's legitimately a fun card
i.e. if there's only black for unconditional removal in a pod you can just get rid of all realistic answers to iona
yeah and proactive
just drawing out your whole deck on a reanimate target is too much lol
i'm very interested in lutri
dualcaster mage in the command zone is dangerous
there's no way there aren't a bunch of layered combos and hard to counter setups with him, right?
I think Rhystic (Tithe too) as a singular card contributes more than any card in the game to the worst way to lose in Commander, which is losing because of someone else’s mistakes and essentially them deciding that you lose
It’s why people don’t like kingmaking
Yes you can say this about any removal spell but no exciting element of the game is lost by banning Rhystic and Tithe
isn't this just stella lee basically
Make people play like robots and they’re still in a vacuum extremely strong cards, Rhystic is one of the best cards in the format, and singlehandedly decide games at an incredibly low cost
it's stella lee but with less setup with less of an easy wincon
I mean blue is the best color in the format but tithe is for a historically underrepresented color in commander
Lutri is gonna be quite interesting yeah
so I'd argue it's nice to have for stronger brackets, hence why it's a game changer
but the difference is that there are so many variants of cards lutri wants or goes infinite etb/dies with, with a bunch of variants of cards that do something on copy cast or etb
it also pairs nicely with group hug draw which I wish more cards did, tataru taru was another nice recent example
fair enough
as for rhystic idk it presents a decision tree in cedh maybe? I don't play cedh though
any twinflame effect on lutri + any etb pinger is death, for example
and that's not the only combo you can have on accident
rhystic doesn't present much of a decision tree in cedh, it's either you play through it or it's a win condition
Sets people back entire turns and draws you a bunch
With no detriment to your own gameplan
I don’t think higher bracket players even enjoy playing with rhystic
I was talking about tithe there
Oh tithe
tithe is 50/50, it's not played in a lot of decks anymore
idk I just don't have a visceral reaction to it as much as you do. like I've seen people feed the rhystic player a number of times but I feel like it hasn't gone super unchecked in my pods
the most common reaction I see is a slight slowdown due to paying the 1 then ganging up on the rhystic player after
The most common reaction see is a player proudly declaring they’re never paying the 1
Then being shocked at how many cards the rhystic player has
From what I see it’s a very common sentiment at tables
ngl it sounds like you play with some dumb people lol
And I don’t think that’s very enjoyable
tbh youtubers really popularized the whole "i will never pay your taxes" bit to the detriment of players
Mfs think they’re evading taxes when they just caused the apocalypse
I mean it’s not like those players don’t exist
Or don’t take up a very sizeable chunk of the playerbase
I think it’s important to recognise that these players exist and not write off their feelings and contributions to tables
Especially towards a card that doesn’t really make the format healthier objectively speaking

why tf would you destroy a land here
crazy but ig the deck doesn't need them rly
Seems like the odds of a Harry Potter Universes Beyond set just shot up significantly. https://t.co/U0T3Jva7KH
This cannot be a good idea
This would actually kill the game for a bunch of players
Hell, I'd probably quit over this set
All the talk of inclusion and caring for everyone goes out the window the second that set drops
the mold is coming...
yeah that's an actual UB to complain about
They've gotta know that's a crazy awful idea, right?
Like a 4th of their playerbase is not straight
well she's both not homophobic and also transphobic
but yeah
I mean I'm not trans but I care about trans people
And I don't want anyone to give money to her
yeah
Although I guess the cost analysis is being ran on if it's worth it to kill off their game to a lot of communities for that sweet Harry Potter money
They probably determined “more Harry Potter fans than trans people” and sent that out
Even if trans people wouldn’t be the only ones offended
"I cast Kingsley shacklebolt"
"I cast cho chang"
"I cast seamus finnigan, pyrotechnics expert"
They'll make a couple random background characters people of color so they can pretend Rowling didn't do... That with the names
Biggest question: would they include house elves or goblins
Oh god they totally would have to figure out how they'd depict goblins and elves
beating kinnan after they rip crazy ❤️
But they'd probably just put 1-2 on background cards lol
How do you get around dobby as a whole
Like he's a reasonably popular character but everything around him is just awful
I mean they'd probably test the waters with a secret lair first
That's still too far imo
Other thing: what race do they make hermione
What race is her actor for the new show
Because if theyre going but what rowling has said, she should be black and people will be mad, if they go by the books and make her white, rowling is a hypocrite (shocker)
She's mixed now it seems
Remember they're using the new actors so that Rowling doesn't have to split money with the old ones she hates
I don't think they'd want to return anyways, at least the main cast
wait there is a new hp show?
The implications of malfoy calling Hermione a mudblood becomes even more disturbing if she was black the entire time 
Yup, rebooting it for some reason
Well the reason being that Warner Bros wants money
And JK Rowling wants money
And she won't have to split it with the main three or Chris Columbus now
They're all outspoken about hating her
she needs more money for her underground mold colony
And so if they remake it, she can put new actors on everything and not have to share with them
Does wotc know that they have strixhaven
no
Strixhaven doesn't have the same mass market appeal
In universe sets don't sell as well
And they clearly tried to make Strixhaven their Harry Potter
It's popular with magic players, but that's not as big of an audience
Okay they did say that they're not making one, but that "currently" is doing a lot of heavy lifting
this sounds so sus
Yeah I don't trust that "currently"
Would've been a lot better to just go "hey we DO NOT plan to use HP in magic, full stop"
But I imagine that even if internally WoTC doesn't want to do it, they might be told by Hasbro they have to if it's gonna make them money
crafted an ajani at the last second, hopefully that wildcard goes through 🤞
it did 
bans are live y'all
game's taking forever to gather local files
I think cause a lot of people are logging in at once
I still remember when they said they would never use AI and then immediately released an ad using AI 
Well, wording was slightly different so technically they weren’t outside their promise
They said ai images and technically that's only happened on one card
So I guess they sorta are accurate
Presumably they did realize that Ruwen Liu used AI as the Aang promo was pulled
This card doesn't have an official printing anywhere, likely because of the artist
It was from the murders secret lair ad where people found it was AI, no?
Technically they were right because it’s not a card 
Yeah that was technically not on a card and then they pulled the ad
This card's art is likely at least partially ai influenced tho
wasn't the exact wording that they wouldn't support AI imaging on cards specifically, but promo material was fair game?
The artist openly talks about using ai in all her works and has her own AI training company
So Toph violates the promise either way
But presumably they realized that later, as again, the Aang got pulled
But provided she's the only time it happens, it's fair to say that they realized it and likely won't allow AI on cards
WOTC wont, they wont let the mold spread to their cards
See my concern is that they might in a year or two when the new show comes out
I fully expect in a year or so people will start saying to separate the art from the artist thing again
the problem is that the art already contains so many issues
The name they gave to that one chinese character (Not repeating it)
Oh right, how could I forget about Cho Chang
Technically there's a second Asian character but she turned into a snake (which is also kinda racist)
Obviously it has issues but people will then argue that they like it in aggregate so it’s fine or something 
I swear it happens every time
People constantly already go "it's okay, Harry Potter was my childhood"
they should just print slurs on magic cards it'd get the same message across
Something to note brought up in another server
"Also, keep in mind that in the press releases of all of these partnerships, the only one that mentions WotC is KPop Demon Hunters"
So we should be safe from the mold
where is this faith in wotc coming from
For now
I do want to trust WoTC and I believe that they have no intent to print HP cards at this time. But they also always backtrack shit they say anyways
Remember there was "no plans for UB to enter constructed formats" 3 years ago
The second the money talks they'll flip on these plans and boom Harry Potter set
Yeah I already posted that screenshot
The word "currently" does a lot of heavy lifting there
For now
2027 "harry potter is coming to standard!"
No idea if they already made their roadmap for 2 years from now when we expect HP reboot to come out 
I mean, they bumped back Lorwyn
They can move sets around
But I know a lot of people say a lot of things will kill the game
I think Harry Potter is unironically the closest to doing that tho
It'd be one of the best selling sets of all time, but it'd also kill their community
tbf it's not WOTC's decision at the end of the day
if Hasbro says, we're doing an HP crossover
WOTC can't actually say no
100%
But if Hasbro says they're doing Harry Potter, it happens and the community dies
Like I don't even really feel like that one is exaggerating too much
You can say what you want about WOTC, but everything we know about the people that work there, they 100% care about the game and the community
It's the most out of touch set they could do and the community would be ruined
This past weekend we donated $750,000 to trans lifeline
There would be a MASSIVE backlash to HP
But let's see what happens. I think from the beginning, the biggest fear with UB was that, it being too successful, would result in IP's actually wanting to partner with Hasbro, with the intent of getting some sort of MTG collab
Especially when MTG is the only thing keeping Hasbro remotely afloat
This gon be gewd
I mean, I'm fine with some UB at this point. But like the line is 100% HP
holy, this pack might be the best one I've ever seen
Ruwen Liu did do non-AI art. the controversy was started by someone bringing up the AI company. Not like there was evidence of use
The second they announce a Harry Potter card I'm quitting
I'm ngl, I might pass up Black Lotus
Not defending potential use of AI, awful if they did, just noting a detail
Yeah the whole thing around her is funky and it's entirely possible the other card has zero AI used. But they did cancel her promo Aang
what would you take ooc? Im still learning
Which would lend evidence to them presumably knowing that there's some ai involvement on her part
Honestly Tamiyo, Fastbond, and Lotus are all valid
P1P1 I think it's Lotus
It would be super hard for me to pass up Tamiyo
Drafting strats vary from person to person
My only concern is Tamiyo and then you're stuck in blue when the cards dictate Boros
I'm usually someone that likes drafting fetches whenever I can
I'm not saying Tamiyo is wrong
p1p1 is lotus
but this pack, I would be forced to Tamiyo
But I just think you take lotus p1p1 every time
even though i love drafting lands first
Because again, if you're in Boros or Golgari or something Tamiyo won't make the cut
actually league and actual cube are different
just take lotus and try to do boros aggro lol
Boros aggro is the best thing you can do yeah
Here's where im at so far
No magic schools besides strixhaven also means wizard101 UB is out the question. But its fine as long as the mold stays away
Ok Booster Tutor is the objectively wrong choice... Buuuuuut
I think this in itself is my biggest fear when it comes to p1p1 lotus
?
booster tutor is actually the best choi-
hmmmm
hymn is there
suplex is solid enough too
hmmm i may still take it over this whole pack (booster tutor)
p1p1 lotus is the worst feeling p1p1 power 9 outside of maybe twister
Is the choice not Bob?
I'm high key taking kurrak or booster tutor given what he's got 
yes? no?
t1 Kurrak is surely just game winning
bob is just awk with cryptic and snuff out int he list
there are so many good cards at higher mvs in vintage cube
Yeah true. I do still think the call is Bob
and lotus encourages you into those
But I can see the argument for booster tutor
batterskull may end up a playable in the deck too
it came back
Kurruk isn't bad either tho
okay bob is the pick there at least. though i may play hymn over it even
With Lotus there's a slight argument for citadel
ehh
But I'd be hesitant for it
yes... but again similar deal + no life gain and no tinker rn
I wouldn't be mad to play citadel but I'm also not dying to do it
nah do kurruk for sure, pinnacle would have been nice if you had some artifact bombs in the first pack
Pinnacle is cool, but he's missing a color
lol
There's no argument for anything else
He's not in red
lol??
A p3 red splash is fine
Snap pick
just be ready to go into white
Any mox is generally correct as is
nah there are times you dont take a mox
ye picked up a few dual lands
ie: mox pearl/emerald sometimes dont go
but
yeah u generally go mox
if i was already in red, i may take fable
Yeah there's absolutely times you don't grab a mox
But most of the time you just snag mox on sight
Especially on p3 in color
I think my big issue is, his lack of actual ways to win the game rn
given what he's shown us
Yeah there's a lot of value here
psycho win cons to bore the opponent to death is the key
The win is valuing them out
There's also LoTV
With enough removal and protection she's a wincon when unchecked
add batterskull
t2 batterskill
Oh yeah this is totally fine
Cut 6 cards, add batterskull but this isn't bad
daze, hymn can go
March can probably go too?
cut wrath of god, ultima is the better wipe, and you don't need to double up on wipes
wrath + march can go
i always love hymn 
I dunno, I'd almost rather wrath than ultima
wrath march daze gtg for sure
But there's an argument for either
i'd wrath over ultima if it wasnt for this deck having a single arti
(and batterskull but you plan around that)
ultima ending the turn could also be relevant, but idr what dying effects we care about, if any
nah vs the field
Ultimata ending the turn isn't super relevant in arena cube
Unless theyve got a curiosity or something ig
the cube has more than vintage cube
well
it has an alt list
also cut a land and send it
Oh speaking of cubes time for a p1p1 of mine
spoken like a true red player
mox + lotus you dont need 17 lands
your curve also ends at 3 for the most relevant spells
i could argue to 15 lands
Alright here's what i got:
Creatures, Planeswalkers, Card Advantage, Counterspells, Removal, Board Wipe, Lands/Mana Artifacts
yeah i suggest moving 1-1 mox and lands usually
Oh cubecobra is down smh
Alright time to finish working on my Selesnya token deck for Standard
Evil Laughter
i love free wins on ranked
Wait until he hits you with [[Battle of Wits]]
Then you'll feel REAL dumb
daily reminder that [[sygg, wanderwine wisdom]] is underrated af
Legendary Creature — Merfolk Wizard
Sygg can't be blocked.
Whenever this creature enters or transforms into Sygg, Wanderwine Wisdom, target creature gains "Whenever this creature deals combat damage to a player or planeswalker, draw a card" until end of turn.
At the beginning of your first main phase, you may pay
. If you do, transform Sygg.
2/2
Sygg, Wanderbrine Shield
Legendary Creature — Merfolk Rogue
Sygg can't be blocked.
Whenever this creature transforms into Sygg, Wanderbrine Shield, target creature you control gains protection from each color until your next turn.
At the beginning of your first main phase, you may pay
. If you do, transform Sygg.
2/2
I'm taking the Mox
Oh wait it only taps for 1
They’d be pretty much obligated to, in the spirit of maximizing shareholder value
Frankly, if I were working at WOtC I would be pushing for a Harry Potter UB hard, if the IP owners would be willing to offer an attractive price
Not because I personally want to see a Harry Potter UB - I don’t - but because it would rival LOtR sales wise, with the outcry being more limited than you’d think
Just lost to a Dimir mirror because they were running Ty Lee and Boomerang Basics. What are we doing here man???
It mattered because it hit Planeswalkers where Bounce Off doesn't
I mean basics is actually a lit card lol
Ty Lee is crazy though
Floodpit drowner choppelganger
thank you mtga
#1282483234835529759 crossover outta nowhere
me when the steps are three
Odds of > 4:
08.27%
Assuming we only draw on the draw step, which had to happen that game, this should literally never happen
I love that bad lessons players don't realize that even through multiple Beastbinder, there is a window where they can use their monument
Just played against a Sultai list that got double deceit into Kavero both games. That feels unwinnable
depends on the deck and the topdecks, it's definitely a strong start though
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mtg commander r...
It won the game because I couldn't remove their hydra when they had 37 protection spells
Ya know, Goldvein Hydra isn't bannable or anything, but he really should've cost XGG
Vigilance, Trample, and Haste for 1 is crazy. Not to mention the fact that he can't be traded with cleanly
He's not a problem or anything but he's my new pet hate card
oh no speak of the devil
Yeah you never wanna play that for less than 3 or so
A 3/3 with haste, vigilance, trample, and refund feels tough to deal with
A 1/1 with all of that doesn't
i'm just testing 5 color control because fuck it
so i die to aggro due to bad lands anyway 
all your removal costing 1 more is rough
Huh that Rakdos monument deck is weird. Feels way too gambling tho
They also run moonshadow. Which continues to prove that moonshadow is fraudulent
Tuesday is debut
Wednesday for precon
Thursday is full card reveals including team-up
Manument to Endurance
Just calcify it
👀 snapped this up today
we have olympic rep before a major tournament win 
My haul for today
More leaks have entered the stack
including a commander precon leak
That makes 5, one more and we can roll a d6 to determine secondary commander
Who’s that on the Technique
Donatello
I meant the bow tie guy lmao
No clue
Some new pickups for my valentines @atomic harness
WARK
good thing for the blue card on the left there isnt a card that makes a lot of turtles in one bur
OH, wait.
undersupported creature types really ate this set
Good job son
Just learned that Mitsuhiro Arita actually did Magic card artwork for a drop, or whatever they called it
Which sounds really cool.
ngl I hope we get another leak the days before debut stream
I'm just waitning on whenever that Monster Hunter series they ended up scrapping is going to be
I'd play the hell out of a deck that features Magnamalo
what is that sol ring from?? it SLAPS
Through the Wormhole Secret Lair. Galaxy Foil. The whole set is nice.
i have encountered the ultimate timmy
I respect it, just wanting to smash as hard as possible
they were smashed by removal turbo
I toyed with the idea of this at one point, but it was more [[Ancient One]] turbo
Harmonizer jump scare
monogreen
imagine not having an answer for that outta nowhere kill 😎
They're doing the pride event again
The important question for this, now that Lutri is unbanned, is what deck I build to represent mine and my boyfriend's fursonas lol
He's obviously Lutri. Do I go with Phelia or Pakko
Phelia is the correct dog type, but if I pick Pakko I can also keep most of the deck the same and make a proxy of Halden for him
lutri would have worked alot nicer with phelia but ig pakko is just better
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they don't know how to publish videos properly 
the video is 2 days old but was privated
its from todays MTG Arena Announcements
Maybe the solution is two decks. Haldan and Pakko and Phelia and Lutri
Force him to learn magic to play one easy
Lutri just goes infinite with every copy spell, yeah?
[[lutri, the spellchaser]]
Legendary Creature — Elemental Otter
Companion — Each nonland card in your starting deck has a different name. (If this card is your chosen companion, you may put it into your hand from outside the game for
as a sorcery.)
Flash
When Lutri enters, if you cast it, copy target instant or sorcery spell you control. You may choose new targets for the copy.
3/2
Not really, unless you mean stuff like reverb
I was thinking ireniclus' duplication and similar
how many copy instants/sorceries are there that make it nonlegendary
Remind me again, how do choice spells work with copying?
There's at least 4
If the “if you would cast it” didnt exist, it would’ve been so peam
But I'm planning to combo off with Orvar too
WAIT GODDAMIT
You didn’t read it till now too? I was so sad by it 🥲
Yeah I wish
Okay Lutri sucks then
How the fuck does he win the game
Imma swap Lutri for Alania
oof
Hell yeah Izzet! What the fuck is a linear combo!?
He doesn’t that’s why they unbanned him smiley
here we go again
Wow those are cracked
I wonder when they're actually going to ban ajani and tamiyo in regular brawl queue tbh
I think I said this before but the fact that they're banned for a competitive brawl event but not the regular queue is crazy to me
Songcrafter continues being an mvp for this deck
Like, songcrafter randomly getting you a well timed spell pierce or lightning bolt, wins the game so hard
Suffering from success. I also drafted Emrakul and Ulamog but they don't synergize with Sneak Attack
Yeah t4 elder gargaroth with Kaldra Compleat is unwinnable for them. Note they had a bahamut
T3
This deck fucks
go into ranked
match into guy nickname Hubris, the Ambitious
johnny player avatar
plays 2 lands
misses land drop, forfeits
g2 i mull to 5 thinking this might be a hard game
opp plays 2 lands
misses land drop, forfeits
?????????????
thank you for reading my greengraypost
I too quit when I gamble on keeping only 2 lands
idt it was even that bad considering it was orzhov something
if this was control you'll draw mazemind eventually
even then, that 3rd landrop makes or breaks a lot of decks
ig fair but
just mull bro
it's one of the things i had to learn when starting to play
just mulligan you'll be fine(-ish)
Ninja Pizza is a cool cube card with a terrible name
Let's give it up for the lame ass UB bonus sheet being used for the 5th time
B1 Iroh "Pizza" Master got a pizza for the 99
💖
(Yeah I had a dumb idea about building Iroh as a pizza themed food deck)
The monkey's paw curls
"Reprint the surveils"
You get one of them, but it's on the TMNT bonus sheet and look bad
Giving the news crew a "channel" ability is genius
So news vans deal more damage then news helicopters I see
Naw it's not the van, it's the people in the van
oh true, that makes it even funnier
whats this garbo
Contender for worst card art
god I hate all of these cards
Looking like spiderman 2 up in here
I think Spider-Man was just an outlier due to some behind the scenes issues. But maintaining the agenda and all that
I dunno, this looks exactly like spiderman to me
Might have 3-4 cards that impact any real formats, 80% commander cards too lost in the sauce to really feel like much of anything
Since when was there a yellow one
for like a decade now
Jenika
Oh weird this is literally the only card she's on
This is a Graggle Simpson, y'all can't convince me she's real
Nah there is another iirc
just only art so far
yep found it
granted I dont think we've seen art of her as a creature, but yeah she has a technique
Funny enough, from what I could find she was originally human
Oh yeah that one
wtf they made turtles woke
Oh just noticed this is from the commander precon
@golden plover found creature art for Jennika
this artwork raises more questions then answers
If the opponents B or C have 25 life or less before the shredder tokens damage them, thats lethal
as they go from (for the 25 example 25 to 15 (10 regular damage) then 15 -> 7 -> 3 -> 1 -> 0
Why is negate in the limited?
I thought the point of foundations was to prevent useless limited slots by keeping some of the staples around
Hey not the worst negate art at least
That's this one
it's a good card for limited
Is it? Counterspells are almost always bottom tier picks
There's obviously some exceptions but counterspells are typically just grabbed to fill slots
I'm not convinced the artist has ever seen a pizza before and it looks gross
hi mr renren
Hello
i bought a new deck mr renren
spend 100$
😭
its 120 cards
with a yorion board
:)
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can someone make a gif of the packing facility part?
very accurate depiction of a packing facility
Just had a match where I only saw a restless reef and Requiting Hex of theirs G1, (wrongly) assumed it was Excruciatiator, boarded in my hate, and found out it was Reanimator. Guess what deck the hate also hits pretty hard
i mean
technically excruciator is reanimator
just different
i side the same thing into both in control
both decks also lack 2 cost spells so that's also convenient to side out snare
Yeah I board out snare, 2 spyglass, and 2 bitter triumph on them
Board in betrayal, soul guide, a disdainful stroke, and 3rd tidebinder
i side out 2 seam rip 2 snare 2 doj for 3 rip 2 tishana 1 disdainful
rip is funny into excruciator cause they lack enchantment removal
Yeah they also can't hit walkers
So if I stick a Kaito they're struggling to find a bitter triumph or lose
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gotta save the other ones for future Multiverse precons
[[Urban Evolution]]
urban evolution but for 1 less mana and the land enters tapped
how the fuck
[[vigot]]
No card found for “vigot”
when are we getting Bigot
Marvel set for sure
they replaced the thrives with more battlebond lands
🙂
probably idk
I hope this reprinting of the Battlebond lands continues
Should’ve been done more ages ago but I’m not gonna let perfect be the enemy of good
City of Brass too looks amazing!
Apparently by the same person who did the art for the awesomeness that is [[!Topiary Stomper]]
love this reprint
Oops, new event history feature in the Companion app revealing large scale event fraud #mtg
Quoting mRichi (@mRichi)
︀
Hola @Arte9_MTG ahora que sale el historial de eventos en companion ya confirmó mis sospechas de que erais vosotros.
︀︀Dejad de meterme en eventos de commander para vuestro beneficio de promo, niveles etc
︀︀A los demás os animo a revisar en el companion,por que se que no soy el único
did he found he was "playing" in a lot of tourneys?
finally, a magic card depicting people playing magic
Oh shit I didn’t notice that, that’s so cool
amazing
the raccoon statue treasure token from Bloomburrow has a worthy opponent
[[invoked carotenoid]]
No card found for “invoked carotenoid”
[[invoked carytoid]]
No card found for “invoked carytoid”
[[Invoked Caryatid]] ?
No card found for “Invoked Caryatid”
something like that yeah
[[ilysian caryatid]]
gg
[[cloud strife]]
Legendary Creature — Human Warrior
Whenever a Warrior attacks, you may have its controller create a 1/1 white Warrior creature token that's tapped and attacking.




: Untap all attacking creatures. They gain trample, lifelink, and haste until end of turn. After this phase, there is an additional combat phase. Activate only during combat.
3/2
Dammit accidentally ordered a mismatched set
And the full art looks awful
Time to try and offload it for a regular one
"Hey what if we colorshifted Gala Greeters, and remove the best ability on Gala Greeters?"
still a decent tool at 2 mana tho, especially for food decks
paying mana for life normally wouldn't be amazing but food synergies and other rectangle synergies are nice
Also make it legendary so you can’t get multiple greeters on board
cowabummer
yea aside from the punny name its actually really dope. Squad being on it also crazyt
the name is a pun?
Tbf gala greeters without the best part is still a pretty decent card
plus an extra power and food synergies
Ayo wtf?
Holy welcome back to standard second sunrise
Or is that the commander set logo
Please say it’s not I need a fun standard card here
Classes are cool but I need morrrrrre
sorry fam 
standard set logo is the turtle face
Sneak attack into dump your hand into continue? 
Fuck OFF
Cool standard designs, No commander here
Cool standard designs? No, commander here!
It’s the same issue every set 
Second time this happened the elf Lotr one had one aswell

Not beating the spiderman 2 allegations when they put the same fucking card in the set
No no you see
This isn't a 1/1
This is a 0/2
Big difference
Also why is this uncommon
Pigeon over performed at common in spiderman limited
So it can block the pigeon in block draft and live, duh
They really brought back blocks but in the worst way possible 
but like 0/2and 1/1 huge diff tbf
like HUGE
Over correction prolly
Holy shit there's SEVEN versions of each turtle in the main set
Maybe an IP doesn't work when you have to do seven versions of each character
If you count the commander versions it's 10
They can do the same with kpop demon hunters now and no one will bat an eyean eye 
GOING UP UP UP AND NOW WERE GOLDEN
Be prepared for a variant for each member with each of the song names next to them 
That's how we make a full set lol
surely this was just hasbro pushing them to do this property cause who actually asked for tmnt in current year
the card designs have been better than Spider-Man again not a high bar but the flavor ain't it
tmnt is... nostalgic ig?
this set doesnt seem horrible but as u said its beating spider-man
but that bar is in hell
maybe after the new york block we can get a korea block
squid game, bts sets
I mean it wasn't long ago I found out there was a ton of content with this between all the comics and shows
did we really need this many cards for each turtle and so many non turtle cards referencing pizza
... isn't this just a card already?
[[poison dart frog]] ah it's in the opposite order
that's a lot better
idk who this is but i love his design
I mean he is carrying alcohol in the art 
why aren't you a spirit?
he's about to be 
i don't wanna die yet
i'm pretty happy with living rn
maybe in like 70 years
i'm sure komi can arrange it
okay, date set! have fun
You very clearly had game
what format is this, cube?
Yeah arena cube
Peppa pig UB might make me an investor bro
Artist does art for tmnt regularly
He just decided to phone this one the fuck out ig
How many treatments does this set have
Wow. Wotc put oppression in standard. 
Wait what
Oh look, yet another spell that ftk’s cub decks
I wonder if we’ll get a class for her too
Nah we don't have room
bouncing a creature to avoid the board wipe is a smart design though
and reuse an etb
Wdym?
all the classes are rares and all of them have been revealed
Also idk if it ever got posted here but there’s a shredder technique that’s 3 mana destroy creature or enchantment sneak is B
Err
Just black
Fixed
Are classes always only rare though? Her technique is the only from the turtles that’s uncommon and not rare
They have printed uncommon classes before 
Unless there has been actual confirmation that we’ve gotten all the classes that I didn’t see
no but the ones in this set are just a cycle at rare
iirc they said so in one of the design articles
Ah unfort
Well I actually don’t gaf that much I didn’t even know there was a yellow turtle until this week I just like classes
Enchantment — Class
(Gain the next level as a sorcery to add its ability.)
Whenever a creature you control leaves the battlefield, each opponent loses 1 life.

: Level 2
Creatures you control get +1/+0 and have menace.
: Level 3
Creature cards in your graveyard have sneak 
.
You may cast creature spells from your graveyard using their sneak abilities.
i'm definitely gonna run it in my sephiroth brawl deck
Helped teach a newer magic player today
they were on WUBRG eldrazi 💀
There’s actually a lot of solid cards in this set
yeah i've been pleasently surprised by this set
im in the same boat. Friend was learning, and netdecked a Codie deck
The Leonardo that has sneak for W can reset you aven interrupters/aang
it's a lot better than the spiderman one. i know the bar is in hell but still
they gave the precon bond lands, city of brass, even fabled passage
granted only 2 of the bond lands, but thats 2 more then other modern precons
I hope they keep it up!
Please be a pattern yeah
, strixhaven plz have the other bond lands (4 more reprinted, plus another print of the golgari)
Surely at that point you’d just be playing pixie
I like a lot of the cards in this set I just wish they found more stuff to do than 7 cards for each turtle
Pixie doesn’t get +1/+0 for every creature on the field
And I play kurruk as a finisher
So I’m always going wide
Except irl where I have a perfect six pack and perfect quads

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