Magic the Gathering

[fallow citrus]

that seems fine to me

maybe misty thinks differently though

[subtle sierra]

I have decided to play 8 shocks

And yet the 4th fountain is 4 euro more

So 4 temple 3 fountain for now

[lusty trench]

There is a point where too many shocks can clog your manabase vs other dual untaps and force you to take life that puts you in potential lethal range but im not smart enough to do the calcs on it

6-8 shocks sounds fine to me

[atomic harness]

8 shocks is crazy

(it's fine)

@fallow citrus do I build blue farm or kinnan

[fallow citrus]

tough one I like both of those

[lusty trench]

I respect blue farm more so do that

[urban crane]

What is blue farm again?

[lusty trench]

Tymna + kraum where you just grind out your opponents resources then go for the win

[golden plover]

The secret is drafting good cards

[glad peak]

Neither, build wandering minstrel

Land combos are actually really simple

[atomic harness]

Lumra-chan...

[atomic harness]

What's the main line little one

[[the wandering minstrel]]

[lost widget]

https://scryfall.com/card/fin/249/the-wandering-minstrel

The Wandering Minstrel <:manag:292901508654301185><:manau:292901508754702338>

Legendary Creature — Human Bard
Lands you control enter untapped.
The Minstrel's Ballad — At the beginning of combat on your turn, if you control five or more Towns, create a 2/2 Elemental creature token that's all colors.
: Other creatures you control get +X/+X until end of turn, where X is the number of Towns you control.
1/3

[glad peak]

The main lines are just woodlands + analyst + minstrel or otawara + minstrel + lumra + bounceland

Sprinkle in some land sac

The scapeshift combo is a little bit harder

But at the end of it the idea is to loop cephalid to draw people out

I can go over the 20 step combo for scapeshift 1cc if you want

Oh and of course, intuition and gifts lines using our dual lands/lotus field to ramp

With scapeshift and 5 lands:
Tap for 5, Casting Scapeshift having floating 1;
Sacrifice 5 lands, fetching Lotus Field, Echoing Deeps, Tolaria West, Simic Growth Chamber, and any fifth land (important)
Float all mana while resolving ETB's. Return Tolaria West with the Bounce-land trigger
Lotus Field (GGG) sacs itself and your selected fifth land
Have all mana floating
Transmute Tolaria West fetch Summoner's Pact
Cast Summoner's Pact and fetch either Lumra, Bellow of the Woods or Aftermath Analyst (Depending on your 5th land)
Cast either and resolve/active to return all lands from graveyard to field. Should have 8 mana minimum coming back in.
Use your selected 5th land to loop with selected Creature Looper
If 5th land is Shifting Woodland, grab Aftermath Analyst
If 5th land is Port of Karfell, grab Aftermath Analyst or Lumra, Bellow of the Woods
If 5th land is Mirrorpool, grab Lumra, Bellow of the Woods

Simple combo

[atomic harness]

thank you son

[glad peak]

There’s also another variant where you get mystic sanctuary and a land that lets you draw, so you can loop scapeshift

[atomic harness]

oh I know what I wanted to play, rog thras

[glad peak]

Oh that’s what I’m playing

[atomic harness]

What's your list looking like and how do you uh, win

draw infinitely w thrasios into oracle?

[glad peak]

Labman + draw your deck

You don’t play thoracle or breach

Infinite mana + finale

[atomic harness]

oh wow no breach but I guess it makes sense here you don't have black

[glad peak]

Black? No

White? Yes

[atomic harness]

[glad peak]

Hotel? Trivago

Ok so some variants do run breach but it’s a lot harder to set up and colors adds actual really hard to do in this deck

[atomic harness]

yeah

[glad peak]

Also almost all your combos have to have cradle

[atomic harness]

is it oboro cradle?

[glad peak]

The rest of the time you just play big mana and control

Oboro cradle madara

Seedborn + cradle + deserted/minamo

[atomic harness]

I saw this weird old card on a yoshi thras list and I wonder if it's actually good

[[nature's chosen]]

[lost widget]

https://scryfall.com/card/all/97/natures-chosen

Nature's Chosen <:manag:292901508654301185>

Enchantment — Aura
Enchant creature you control
: Untap enchanted creature. Activate only during your turn and only once each turn.
Tap enchanted creature: Untap target artifact, creature, or land. Activate only if enchanted creature is white and untapped and only once each turn.

[glad peak]

The Sam black version doesn’t play seedborn which is pretty weird, it’s really easy to go over the top and win on instant speed with it without interaction on t3

[atomic harness]

Yeah no seedborn sounds weird

yoshi thras is just worse rog thras right

[glad peak]

Badgermole on a basic + earthbound is what we play

Yoshi thras lets you play expensive silence instead of free redirects

[atomic harness]

esper sentinel-chan...

ranger captain abolisher voice

[glad peak]

I don’t think you even play those

[atomic harness]

oh hmm

just silence?

[glad peak]

Mana colors in this deck is just really really hard

[atomic harness]

Unlike kinnan-sama

[glad peak]

Kinnan is part of a combo here

[atomic harness]

I might lean towards kinnan I really like the flip into gilded drake/volatile stormdrake stuff

oh I also like tymna dargo but the lines seem hard...

[glad peak]

Theyre annoying

[tardy echo]

Nobody plays my goat kydele

[glad peak]

Who

[glad peak]

You only use 2 colors in kinnan, 3 colors is the hard part

Kinnan really evolved from doing big stuff to just play control

[tropic cape]

question for yall: if you were to make like a 80-90 land landfall deck, what creatures would you say are must haves? I would say lumra and scute swarm, om (was kind of thinking of making it lumra commander, but that then ofc gets a bit limited lol) ofc omnath ,but then he would sort of need to be the commander

[zinc shard]

[[Cultivator Colossus]]

[lost widget]

https://scryfall.com/card/inr/190/cultivator-colossus

Cultivator Colossus <:mana4:292901508712890379><:manag:292901508654301185><:manag:292901508654301185><:manag:292901508654301185>

Creature — Plant Beast
Trample
Cultivator Colossus's power and toughness are each equal to the number of lands you control.
When this creature enters, you may put a land card from your hand onto the battlefield tapped. If you do, draw a card and repeat this process.
*/*

[tropic cape]

oh heck yeah thats tight, yeah i sort of wanted to make a deck of essentially lumra and things that can win the game with landfall lol and like 90 lands cuz fuggit lol

i thought famished worldsire is also a must ahve there

maybe azusa and zuran orb and crucible of worlds for that life gain shenanigans too, but then again we starting to muck up the "play all my lands lol" engine

[glad peak]

Landfall 😪

Play scapeshift, field of the dead, glacial chasm, valakut, and dryad of the elysian grove

[sudden lava]

https://youtu.be/jiOlTszAT74

[glad peak]

that's gotta be pr cope lol

"stores are having trouble indexing them" meanwhile prints new foil types

"we can't guarantee prerelease dates" well you have for close to 2 decades, we won't get mad if dates are off a couple days here and there

[vivid hatch]

€40 plateau

yay

[glad peak]

"this has nothing to do with universes beyond" makes me think it has something to do with universes beyond

especially since wasn't eclipsed supposed to come earlier and was a last minute decision to move it to january?

[lusty trench]

Tf kinda promo you using

[vivid hatch]

It’s store credit basically as compensation as I complained about a cards condition

Still €165 plateau is super sweet

It’s relatively clean too

[lusty trench]

You gotta call it piano

[past socket]

Either way, can’t let things like statements from official sources get in the way of a good conspiracy theory

[lusty trench]

Oh shit, new agenda posting?

[glad peak]

trust me, i love a good agenda

but this ain't it lol

[past socket]

Conspiracy theories are just agenda posting aren’t they

Not that a conspiracy theorist would know a real conspiracy if it hit them in the face with heavily redacted documents

[glad peak]

the main thing that makes me think he was given a script to read from the pr team was that he straight up says he wasn't involved in the decision

[sleek ferry]

Idt that WotC would purposely ruin one of their spoilers season

Now the tmnt spoilers season is basically nothing

[copper pecan]

it was not a last minute decision

it got delayed by a few months but they knew about the delay over a year before the set was planned to come out

[glad peak]

i wanna work at wotc to look at their jira boards lol

if it's like every other company i've worked at, there's a lot of accidental cross contamination and a lot of people having to write cope as to why that is

i'm sorry, in a corporate setting it's called a "bridge"

[lusty trench]

Smh it never needs to be a good agenda

[past socket]

It just needs to be good for shilling crappy supplements

[lusty trench]

idk what agenda posters your seeing but I do it out of love for the game

[past socket]

It’s more the possible non-consensual epiphany that conspiracy theories are just a form of agendapostinf

[lusty trench]

Not magic to be clear, the game of agenda posting

[glad peak]

I do it because it reminds me of when I had to write cope to upper management why something that has structural issues didnt work

Every day

[sleek ferry]

Why are MTGO grinders, the most insufferable people in the hobby btw https://x.com/iamactuallylvl1/status/2013324774093554168?s=46&t=DdUsqNPs-c3IFDRYOhiq8A

Justin 'IamActuallyLvL1' Gennari (@IamActuallyLvL1)

Paper only players really have a hard time grasping just what MTGO data means and just how much worse the average paper player is versus anyone who grinds MTGO. One of the most eye opening, level up moments you can have as a player is starting to grind online instead of locals.

X · Jan 19, 2026, 6:56 PM

[lusty trench]

"My playerbase is old af and tanks for 5 minutes a turn that means they must be good"

Meanwhile theyre both watching a video and draft picking while playing you

[glad peak]

Tbh a lot of paper players are worse than people who play both

But that’s a volume issue, not a platform issue

[copper pecan]

"people who grind the game all the time are better at the game than people who only play once a week" no shit dumbass

[glad peak]

People who play more should be better then people who don’t

[lusty trench]

Commander players

https://tenor.com/view/dunk-gif-21755298

Easiest joke in the universe and I took it

[past socket]

That was a little unnecessary

[sleek ferry]

Commander players are actually a perfect example, since most of them play only weekly

And there’s no real commander client

[glad peak]

You can outgrind a commander player’s full game history in one month of dedicated play in paper

[sleek ferry]

Also non cedh commander games go for an hour on average

A bo3 that goes all 3 games in standard is 45 minutes or less

[glad peak]

Again, a volume issue

I sort of want to play on a cedh tournament where my only goal is to play turbo and when my combo doesn’t go through then get a counterspell to kingmake, which triggers a reset and therefore I have another chance of turboing a win

Yes I’m abusing the system, get a better system

[sleek ferry]

I was actually just thinking recently that the whole casual commander idea of “no infinite combos” is a disservice to players as you don’t get to see how to pull off those interactions

[glad peak]

Didnt they redo it in brackets so that you’re allowed them? Or was it tutors

I can’t remember which iteration were on

[past socket]

They’re still a thing just have a bit of a stigma to them really

[sleek ferry]

Who knows, but at Lorwyn prerelease, I was talking to this girl who only plays commander, and she was like “yeah, I play mono red in commander and I’m unstoppable, I go too fast for people”. And then I was like “what if you get board wiped t4, what’s your plan then?” And she said “board wipe? We don’t do that here, and even if we did, by t4 I don’t even have anything on board”

[glad peak]

I will never understand

[sleek ferry]

Bro, I literally wanted to laugh out loud

Tf you mean you play mono red and by t4 you don’t have anything board presence

And that your deck goes too fast for people

[glad peak]

From my experience theyre also the type of person to say “you just don’t like fun” when you tell them you don’t get it

[sleek ferry]

This has to be that fabled bracket 1 experience

[glad peak]

My bracket 1 deck is four horsemen

I just wanna tap and untap my silly goober

[sleek ferry]

There’s precons out there that can win on t4-t5

[glad peak]

Well precons are no longer bracket 2, remember

[vivid hatch]

Thank god my introduction to magic wasn’t edh

First deck I ever played was Sagavan Jund in Modern

[glad peak]

Thank god my introduction to magic wasn’t modern horizons

First deck I ever played was squirrel opposition

[vivid hatch]

As someone who only started playing because of MH2, I have a soft spot for horizons

[past socket]

Aaaand I remember why I’m not comfortable talking here. I play Commander a lot and just feel like I’m gonna get bullied for doing so

[vivid hatch]

I mean, hey, my favorite card of all time is w6

that’s probably a controversial take

[glad peak]

Oh I love it too, it’s a great draft format

[fallow citrus]

oh I forgot

I finally ran cube on the weekend

was super fun

[vivid hatch]

What type

[glad peak]

Nice, what cube?

[fallow citrus]

cubecobra.com/cube/list/data

[vivid hatch]

default modo vintage cube huh

[glad peak]

But yeah main reason why I’m sad about mh1 is that the decks that came before it (I literally mean before Phoenix, though that deck was fun the rest of the meta was meh) were so fun

[vivid hatch]

Yeah I didn’t have exposure to them

I mean I have some now as I am looking into formats like 2015 modern

But I love so many horizons cards

[glad peak]

Tbh if you don’t have unhinged takes about commander then we won’t clown on you

Speaking of which, someone at a shop I went to said lorwyn eclipsed might as well be mh4 with “how broken it is in commander”

[vivid hatch]

namely w6, saga, fon, phlage and darcie

[glad peak]

[vivid hatch]

lol?

there’s like 3.5 good cards in the set

[glad peak]

Darcy is my all time favorite card

[fallow citrus]

playing with a lot of people new to cube so something basic is good

[glad peak]

I wouldn’t say modo vintage cube is basic

[vivid hatch]

I haven’t been playing modern for a fair bit

mostly pauper now

[vivid hatch]

Grinding Breach my beloved

):

[glad peak]

I still remember swapping murktides for breaches for a tournament to just mill with Darcy lmao

[vivid hatch]

how did breach survive for so long

a mystery

[glad peak]

In the mirror drawing 8 cards then bolting them for 27

lovely deck

[vivid hatch]

JustBreachThings

No guys yawgs will but better is totally good for modern

[glad peak]

What do you play in pauper?

[vivid hatch]

black sac

[glad peak]

Speaking of, I remember seeing a clickbait vid on YouTube titled “this common got banned in magic???”

The card was banned in pauper, obviously it’s a common

Oh hey I remember when black sac was getting theorized

Beetle just got printed at common back then

[vivid hatch]

deck can be scary fast

[glad peak]

There’s a couple great cards in the set, for example some shocklands

But the guy really read a card that made some tokens and said that

[vivid hatch]

I mean new cards haha

the evoke elementals seem okay-ish

And also squelcher

[sleek ferry]

It’s a lower power set that will still have a big impact on standard and pioneer, other formats, probably not

Getting that 1 mana removal in black is something that was
Desperately needed

I also just think Sultai is getting massive buffs in the set in general

[vivid hatch]

I had the option of using my store credit to either get a play box of lorwyn or a plateau, with 15 euros of each other on my retailer of choice

went with the dual

[sleek ferry]

Tbh, with as cheap as Lorwyn play boxes are right now, buying them is a pretty good bet

[vivid hatch]

€150 here xDDD

Cheap in the US maybe

[sleek ferry]

Shock set + evoke elementals guarantees you pulls with value in the rare and mythic slots respectively

[vivid hatch]

lorwyn play box or MP dual?

[glad peak]

I think I’ll try to get as many of the uncommons and commons as possible for set cube

The limited set is really fun, especially if you remove the rares and mythics

Decent chunk of emergent gameplay and grindy play

[vivid hatch]

Draft environment is indeed fun

[glad peak]

And aggro is actually pretty good at the common level

[vivid hatch]

just not great EV value wise

for the set tbh

[glad peak]

Yeah I’m going to try to get the commons and uncommons for super cheap

There’s a lot of interaction too, surprised by that tbh

[vivid hatch]

Snap up a set on cardmarket

[sleek ferry]

Not a fan of calling something a cube card, but surely, this is a sweet cube card [[mutable explorer]]

[lost widget]

https://scryfall.com/card/ecl/186/mutable-explorer

Mutable Explorer <:mana2:292901509060886528><:manag:292901508654301185>

Creature — Shapeshifter
Changeling (This card is every creature type.)
When this creature enters, create a tapped Mutavault token. (It's a land with ": Add " and ": This token becomes a 2/2 creature with all creature types until end of turn. It's still a land.")
1/1

[glad peak]

Way to say you hate me

[zinc shard]

man I usually always get the preorders but $100 with no Mastery Pass is ridiculous

[trail anvil]

I'm ready for this set

[glad peak]

tmnt?

[trail anvil]

no

[sleek ferry]

I'm ready for TMNT

the cards look sick

what time are we supposed to get Lorwyn

12?

[sudden lava]

Im guessing 11 AM

[sleek ferry]

11am your time so 2pm est?

[sudden lava]

yeah

[golden plover]

Isn't it usually noon est

[vivid hatch]

god I love premodern foils

[sudden lava]

Oh its here

[golden plover]

Since when has it marked your limited archetype?

[copper pecan]

since about 20 minutes ago

they added it in this update

[golden plover]

Oh weird. Feels kinda handholdy but I guess it's good for people who don't know what their deck should have in it

[zinc shard]

... that's a weird looking Elemental

[sleek ferry]

[[eclipsed realms]] being an uncommon in this set is so nice

[lost widget]

https://scryfall.com/card/ecl/263/eclipsed-realms

Eclipsed Realms

Land
As this land enters, choose Elemental, Elf, Faerie, Giant, Goblin, Kithkin, Merfolk, or Treefolk.
: Add .
: Add one mana of any color. Spend this mana only to cast a spell of the chosen type or activate an ability of a source of the chosen type.

[zinc shard]

welp went 0-3 because my sealed pool sucked. literally 1 removal spell in my colors

[golden plover]

Went 0-3 with elves too. It happens

[sleek ferry]

Nice field bozo

[zinc shard]

ok so Merfolk is completely busted in Limited

[trail anvil]

eirdu is fun as hell as a commander

the hard part is actually getting it out, but once you do it goes crazy

[glad peak]

merfolk is pretty good, not too many fliers and no one's gonna have that much removal, even though we have a ton of removal

merfolk's signpost randomly being immune to one of white's best removal spells is laughable

also white's other best removal spell barely hurts them since you can still tap the creature

and white in general is just really really good

[subtle sierra]

i have solved bant by shoving another bant combo into the deck

[sleek ferry]

[[jackdaw savior]]

[lost widget]

https://scryfall.com/card/blb/18/jackdaw-savior

Jackdaw Savior <:mana2:292901509060886528><:manaw:1007102126813610074>

Creature — Bird Cleric
Flying
Whenever this creature or another creature you control with flying dies, return another target creature card with lesser mana value from your graveyard to the battlefield.
3/1

[subtle sierra]

you copy crossroads aang with a creature, it dies, jackdaw revives another copy of a copy creature, you get infinite aang triggers

i use visage bandit, the guy that i initially saw using this combo used naga fleshcrafter but it's useless in my deck

[golden plover]

Kithkin are looking to be the best thing to do in this limited tbh

[sudden lava]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1035028897177292871/1463251088982413383/image.png?ex=69712645&is=696fd4c5&hm=bb6c034bbb79288cbb8f52f4831340baf9304e7840d8dfd74b9321721aba3c19&=&format=webp&quality=lossless&width=613&height=563

Kithkin with the silverquil student go brr

[golden plover]

Ngl, I feel like [[Champion of the Weird]] is a dog shit card

[lost widget]

https://scryfall.com/card/ecl/95/champion-of-the-weird

Champion of the Weird <:mana3:292901508771610624><:manab:292901508872273920>

Creature — Goblin Berserker
As an additional cost to cast this spell, behold a Goblin and exile it. (Exile a Goblin you control or a Goblin card from your hand.)
Pay 1 life, Blight 2: Target opponent blights 2. Activate only as a sorcery.
When this creature leaves the battlefield, return the exiled card to its owner's hand.
5/5

[golden plover]

I saw it literally every game of my first draft, lost every one

[trail anvil]

I'm surprised, the card seemed strong in prerelease whenever it hit the board?

are you having trouble casting it or do opponents just go too wide or what?

[copper pecan]

yeah that card's really strong

[broken fjord]

The issue is that if the table reads it, they might assume combo. Had someone test it against a pod I was in. Just ganged up on them since they were indeed a combo deck.

[trail anvil]

oh yeah I mean in brawl. in commander that thing is threatening as hell lol

[lusty trench]

Skill check

Its a good stat line especially for the cost and can bully down some fields if need be

[copper pecan]

luminarch aspirant... TWO!

[lusty trench]

But if people dont know how to take advantage of the blight and the stat line it makes it so much weaker

1 more mana for 1 toughness and 1 extra target

Idk if thats worth it

Oh this also can target opponents stuff too? Errr neat ig?

[subtle sierra]

They never fucking scoop, huh?

Also jackdaw is a bro

Nice boardwipe nerd, i bring back swift and doc

Appa in hand

[subtle sierra]

Someone bought a precon

[trail anvil]

lmao what's up with this quality control

[golden plover]

This.... Certainly is a draft deck

Kithkins were free for p1 and p3, but I figure someone else was on them for 2 so we're filling in the gaps with changelings

[subtle sierra]

[golden plover]

This one can't not be insane, yeah?

I'm not sure if Kirrol is the move here but he's potentially very funky

[lusty trench]

One of these lorwyn prerelease kits or commander decks is gonna have a straight up pokemon card in mark my words

[subtle sierra]

i can't wait to open an mtg pack and pull fuwalos

the card haunts me

[zinc shard]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lNtqI3r4xiE

Mythic refresh pull

[sudden lava]

Energy decks would love that misprint

[zinc shard]

https://magic.wizards.com/en/news/announcements/on-turtles-faeries-and-the-lorwyn-eclipsed-prerelease

https://magic.wizards.com/en/products/teenage-mutant-ninja-turtles/card-image-gallery

They've added all the rares/mythics from TMNT to the card gallery

[sudden lava]

prof reference

[tropic cape]

Mfw I opened up a collectors of eclipsed and didn't get the one card I wanted, the dang treeple parent showcase

[zinc shard]

"Buy singles" moment

[zinc shard]

Elves are fun in Standard

[stark skiff]

https://tenor.com/view/simpson-homer-carl-barney-boring-gif-14933526973444514857

[glad peak]

Just be rich enough to buy more packs

[stark skiff]

https://tenor.com/view/thats-a-major-key-right-there-major-key-dj-khalid-dj-gif-10361912

[twilit canyon]

love rerolling a quest into the same quest but more gold

i was already gonna do that shit thanks for the free gold

[sleek ferry]

Facts

But then I get sad when I do all my quests and get all 15 wins

[twilit canyon]

nice to see u here

eat this

[lusty trench]

Cards i liked from the list

I like the ravenous robots theyre funky little dudes

[sudden lava]

I can see future shark in Satoru

but not in anything that doesnt have a way to cheat it out

[glad peak]

Why is satoru letting them get in him

He ain’t a car

[sudden lava]

Bird comes at you for 1, oh wait nope its a mutant shark

[glad peak]

Ravenous robots looks like it’ll be a staple in modern affinity

Even with pinnacle being just 1 mana lot of times, having 4 more that’s cheaper than the bad case is so good

[stark skiff]

Ravenous Robots is sick

[lusty trench]

Technodrome seems like it could be funky

2 mana tap draw 1 in the right decks and then just beeeeeg dude at the end

[copper pecan]

so how do y'all feel about lorwyn eclipsed's limited format?

i'm really enjoying it so far

[twilit canyon]

its p solid

[copper pecan]

the concept of toughness as a resource is pretty interesting and i don't think i've seen any other sets do that before

[twilit canyon]

sealed was decent and i like the blight mechanic for it

[copper pecan]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/507388259165536263/1463752571960430730/images.jpg?ex=6972f950&is=6971a7d0&hm=7ebf8f937ae0d752c310b6465e13df545f944d299b37ef6ae2977125b3ea6b65&=&format=webp&width=639&height=489

[trail anvil]

nah champion of the weird is crazy as a card

brambleback brute also just lets massive creatures get through so often

yeah champion of the weird is an insane limited bomb, you just remove everything ever

[zinc shard]

This deck's sweet

[golden plover]

Fuck I didn't wanna like them, but both my 1-off [[Flitterwing Nuisance]] and [[Bitterbloom Bearer]] feel good in Dimir

[lost widget]

https://scryfall.com/card/ecl/48/flitterwing-nuisance

Flitterwing Nuisance <:manau:292901508754702338>

Creature — Faerie Rogue
Flying
This creature enters with a -1/-1 counter on it.
, Remove a counter from this creature: Whenever a creature you control deals combat damage to a player or planeswalker this turn, draw a card.
2/2

https://scryfall.com/card/ecl/88/bitterbloom-bearer

Bitterbloom Bearer <:manab:292901508872273920><:manab:292901508872273920>

Creature — Faerie Rogue
Flash
Flying
At the beginning of your upkeep, you lose 1 life and create a 1/1 blue and black Faerie creature token with flying.
Petals burst in evening hours with flitting things so fickle and sour.
1/1

[golden plover]

Debating cutting Cecil for an extra one of one of them

I think it'd be an extra Bitterbloom, since that card is good into lessons

[trail anvil]

it doesn't get hosed by the iroh lesson?

[golden plover]

I mean, that's sorcery speed

[golden plover]

Hmm maybe that Beastbinder card is good rn

[sleek ferry]

Been tinkering around with this list a bit, and there’s something here, I just ran out of wild cards to try to figure out what exactly

I want to cut emptiness and run 4 dogs though

[golden plover]

The evoke Elementals have anti-synergy with vestige, no?

I'm also not sure what Ashling does for you

[trail anvil]

I'm kinda confused as to the point of running the elementals if you don't have good flexibility with the colors

and yeah vestige seems like a lot of anti synergy, I don't really see the point of it in general when everything you want to cheat in is lower than 4 cmc

[sleek ferry]

Color fixing + is an elemental herself

Vestige I kinda just threw in as a place holder for now, unsure what I want to run in its place

The biggest issue I’m currently running into is 0 card advantage

[golden plover]

Honestly this looks like it should either go all in on the elemental gameplan or the 5c one

Rn it just looks like a mess

[trail anvil]

what's ajani doing here too?

[golden plover]

I have ZERO clue what elspeth does for you either

Oh that too

Ajanis can't hit 80% of the deck if you ult

[trail anvil]

ashling to ramp out elementals sounds like a fun idea but I just think you need to zero in on one plan

there's a lot of nice vivid support and that elemental 2-drop that adds 2 mana for elementals specifically

bloom tender over badgermole even could go a long way maybe

[twilit canyon]

hype moments and aura

[golden plover]

There is that vivid deck that plays like Simic but runs Leyline and the 7 drop to combo kill you

[trail anvil]

true!

[golden plover]

If you wanna play around with vivid, that's probably the move ngl

Also any toolbox deck in the future is gonna wanna be on [[Formidable Speaker]]

[lost widget]

https://scryfall.com/card/ecl/176/formidable-speaker

Formidable Speaker <:mana2:292901509060886528><:manag:292901508654301185>

Creature — Elf Druid
When this creature enters, you may discard a card. If you do, search your library for a creature card, reveal it, put it into your hand, then shuffle.
, : Untap another target permanent.
Jean-Emmanuel Depraz, World Champion XXIX
2/4

[past socket]

that guy who tutors for a discard in Toolboxes!? Madness!

[golden plover]

Yeah only the best toolbox card you'd want

And the psuedo-vigilance is huge too

[trail anvil]

one fun deck I've seen with this is crokeyz running sultai kavaero with the 2 elementals in sultai

formidable speaker lets you toolbox and you can trigger elementals off kavaero (only one mode on wistfulness though)

[golden plover]

This is the "I'm cooking" list I'm on

[past socket]

Abigale Recruits For The Skeleton War

[trail anvil]

[[midnight tilling]]

[lost widget]

https://scryfall.com/card/ecl/182/midnight-tilling

Midnight Tilling <:mana1:292901508373282827><:manag:292901508654301185>

Instant
Mill four cards, then you may return a permanent card from among them to your hand. (To mill four cards, put the top four cards of your library into your graveyard.)
The kithkin farmer awoke to find the crop ruined and a trail of rootprints leading into the forest.

[sudden lava]

Actual moment from Thursday Night commander

[glad peak]

Skill issue, didnt read

[atomic harness]

Idk man it's seven free cards

[glad peak]

I too like throwing away my 15-30 card hand for 7 cards

[golden plover]

Today in stupid shit I lost the game to: Gruul Hexproof??

Who the fuck plays this? It's literally only good into Dimir

[glad peak]

Maybe they’ve only been playing against dimir

[past socket]

https://magic.wizards.com/en/news/announcements/celebrate-the-year-of-the-horse-at-your-local-game-store-and-more Hope y’all have a very happy Chinese New Year!

[urban crane]

Got this from a promo pack

[past socket]

GODDAMN

[urban crane]

Was planning to build a artifact commander anyway so this is nice

[atomic harness]

Ayyyy

[urban crane]

Gonna build a very fun deck with it urza

[trail anvil]

which urza?

[glad peak]

The head master, duh

[urban crane]

Espur

But dw for the mono blue friends he’ll be in the 99

Also picked this nice little known artifact up in a trade Wednesday

Jeez what did that thing go up

[urban crane]

Also made a deal for the best urza art

[urban crane]

Curious for people that play commander here what’s everyone’s favorite deck?

[zinc shard]

[[Chatterfang, Squirrel General]]

[lost widget]

https://scryfall.com/card/mh2/151/chatterfang-squirrel-general

Chatterfang, Squirrel General <:mana2:292901509060886528><:manag:292901508654301185>

Legendary Creature — Squirrel Warrior
Forestwalk (This creature can't be blocked as long as defending player controls a Forest.)
If one or more tokens would be created under your control, those tokens plus that many 1/1 green Squirrel creature tokens are created instead.
, Sacrifice X Squirrels: Target creature gets +X/-X until end of turn.
3/3

[sudden lava]

[[pearl-ear]]

[lost widget]

https://scryfall.com/card/mh3/39/pearl-ear-imperial-advisor

Pearl-Ear, Imperial Advisor <:mana1:292901508373282827><:manaw:1007102126813610074><:manaw:1007102126813610074>

Legendary Creature — Fox Advisor
Lifelink
Enchantment spells you cast have affinity for Auras. (They cost less to cast for each Aura you control.)
Whenever you cast an Aura spell that targets a modified permanent you control, draw a card. (Equipment, Auras you control, and counters are modifications.)
3/4

[sudden lava]

But haven't used her in a while

[zinc shard]

http://youtube.com/post/UgkxXrwBCq-uMEYL6uGxLijVaCluNvdGnG9U?si=CYeoi-taBsjp5laY

[sleek ferry]

https://x.com/scgcon/status/2015259341251580015?s=46&t=DdUsqNPs-c3IFDRYOhiq8A

SCG CON (@SCGCON)

Top of Standings going into the 9th and final round of Swiss for Day 1 of the Magic Regional Championship! 📜

See who ends the day undefeated, LIVE from #SCGPORTLAND:

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X · Jan 25, 2026, 3:04 AM

Zevin Faust is playing a very similar list to what I’ve been playing since avatar

[stark skiff]

https://i.redd.it/2xetw7hmzgfg1.png

[sudden lava]

Loptr Shadow of the Generaider Bosses has made it to MTG!

[glad peak]

https://tenor.com/view/hi-there-hi-whats-up-head-roll-lets-dance-gif-9981027698215433652

Oh hey it’s Loki

[sudden lava]

As for the other 3 precons
Fantastic Four: Wall tokens (as seen on Invisble woman) for protective fields, and noncreature spells ok sure.
Wakanda Forever: Surprisingly the blurb doesn't suggest any counter/token synergy in the deck? Unless reign as monarch is trying to say Monarch mechanic and a lot of tokens. Could put the secret lair heroic intervention in though at least
Avengers Assemble: You did buy the Captain America Secret Lair yeah?

[glad peak]

I can’t believe they’re doing a UB for record of ragnarok

[sudden lava]

Alternatively, we can throw Sokka Suki into the Avengers

[tardy echo]

Sigh no 5c slop precon this time

Why live

[sudden lava]

its ok, the 5c throw your box pulls in legendary will be in main set

[lusty trench]

Iron man, final snap, its just a screenshot of iron man snapping the gauntlet

[sudden lava]

Thanos already confirmed for set yeah

[glad peak]

Don’t worry, the commander that gives a bunch of keywords and stats will be in the main set

Who knows, maybe Avenger is gonna be a new type

[golden plover]

Make a UB villain not grixis challenge: impossible

[glad peak]

I hate how they forgot black doesn’t mean evil and instead just leans into it

[golden plover]

Loki is objectively esper tbh

[golden plover]

Honestly it's a big issue with mtg color pie design for UB characters

It has to simplify things way too much

Black = Bad
Blue = Smart
Red = Reckless/Hero
White = Good Guy
Green = Whoever we have left

[sudden lava]

Azula

[golden plover]

She was Grixis

They're all fucking grixis lol

[sudden lava]

She also had a dimir and monoblack version

but yeah she had a grixis version

[glad peak]

She’s not particularly smart, why dimir or Grixis

[golden plover]

I mean, ultimately all villains end up Grixis

[sudden lava]

sorry, she had two monoblack versions. But yeah

[golden plover]

Have we had a non-grixis UB big bad yet?

Ozai ig but he's rakdos and azula is more the big bad than him

I guess Caesar's legion were mardu

[sudden lava]

Ozai comes to mind

and I assume something from Final Fantasy

[golden plover]

He's still rakdos

[glad peak]

I’m more concerned about if we’ve seen any major villain (that isn’t specifically designed to be mono colored) be in any color other than black

[golden plover]

Kefka is Grixis

But yeah, there's plenty of argument for non-black villains

[sudden lava]

Sephiroth was boros and monoblack on his stuff (Havent played 7 yet, but I assume his transformed side is like final boss)

[golden plover]

But UB has to simplify things to fit in magic terms so they're all black

[glad peak]

The boros sephiroth was of when he was a good guy though (hence the white)

[golden plover]

[[The Emperor of Palamecia]] looks to be the only non-black UB villain I can see

[lost widget]

https://scryfall.com/card/fin/219/the-emperor-of-palamecia-the-lord-master-of-hell

The Emperor of Palamecia <:manau:292901508754702338><:manar:292901508796645397>

Legendary Creature — Human Noble Wizard
: Add or . Spend this mana only to cast a noncreature spell.
Whenever you cast a noncreature spell, if at least four mana was spent to cast it, put a +1/+1 counter on The Emperor of Palamecia. Then if it has three or more +1/+1 counters on it, transform it.
2/2

The Lord Master of Hell
Legendary Creature — Demon Noble Wizard
Starfall — Whenever The Lord Master of Hell attacks, it deals X damage to each opponent, where X is the number of noncreature, nonland cards in your graveyard.
"All the world shall fall by my hand."
3/3

[sudden lava]

though I guarantee we are getting Thanos as not grixis, but 5c so its grixis with a selesnya expansion

[golden plover]

I think there's a couple mono-colors in spiderman too

[sudden lava]

cuz like the infinity stone we do have is monoblack, so the rest probably fill out the WURG

[lusty trench]

Nah im stopping you there she was incredibly smart especially since she was like 14-16 during atla

[golden plover]

But like... 90% of UB villains are black

Isn't like Azula's whole thing being super smart when it comes to scheming and strategy

Oddly enough, she's one of the few that's fittingly grixis

[lusty trench]

Yeah she's just emotionally inept so she became a narcissist

[sudden lava]

I just hope we get a new monowhite aura in the marvel set, the last marvel set gave a really good one

[golden plover]

Yeah azula is one of the few you can justify being Grixis

[sudden lava]

[[with great power]]

[lost widget]

https://scryfall.com/card/spm/24/with-great-power

With Great Power... <:mana3:292901508771610624><:manaw:1007102126813610074>

Enchantment — Aura
Enchant creature you control
Enchanted creature gets +2/+2 for each Aura and Equipment attached to it.
All damage that would be dealt to you is dealt to enchanted creature instead.
... there must also come great responsibility!

[glad peak]

She wasn’t smart enough to avoid losing, therefore not smart

[golden plover]

I don't feel like [[Asshad, the Lone Cyberman]] is really grixis

[lost widget]

https://scryfall.com/card/who/113/ashad-the-lone-cyberman

Ashad, the Lone Cyberman <:mana1:292901508373282827><:manau:292901508754702338><:manab:292901508872273920><:manar:292901508796645397>

Legendary Artifact Creature — Cyberman
The first nonlegendary artifact spell you cast each turn has casualty 2. (As you cast it, you may sacrifice a creature with power 2 or greater. When you do, copy it. A copy of an artifact spell becomes a token.)
Whenever you sacrifice another creature, put a +1/+1 counter on Ashad.
3/3

[golden plover]

[[Dr Eggman]] is Dimir or Esper realistically

[lost widget]

https://scryfall.com/card/sld/2084/dr-eggman

Dr. Eggman <:mana2:292901509060886528><:manau:292901508754702338><:manab:292901508872273920><:manar:292901508796645397>

Legendary Creature — Human Scientist
Flying
At the beginning of your end step, draw a card. Then each opponent faces a villainous choice — That player discards a card, or you may put a Construct, Robot, or Vehicle card from your hand onto the battlefield.
3/6

[lusty trench]

I feel like grixis for eggman is fine

He can be quite reckless

[golden plover]

Yeah, I guess it depends on the continuity

But I feel like he's slightly more esper

[lusty trench]

Honestly eggman could be every colour but green

Not making sonic green and making him blue was certainly a choice too

[twilit canyon]

idm blue sonic since he is a decently smart guy but sonic not having green was a choice

[lusty trench]

I feel like sonic is on the wisdom not intelligence side of knowledge

[twilit canyon]

i dont disagree tho he also did upkeep the tornado before tails. hes not a genius but he is surrounded by them sohe may not feel as smart cus of that but he certainly is

[golden plover]

Again it came down to vibes

Sonic is totally green

But Knuckles is red

So he had to have red in him

[lusty trench]

Knuckles is boros
Tails is the most izzet kid alive
Sonic is every colour but black
Shadow is white black red
Amy is... idk when they let her have a consistent personality or her to do anything ill let you know but boros is fine
Metal is dimir
Eggman is all but green
Silver is probably also boros
Blaze is also probably boros but you could argue mono red or a bit of blue

Actually you know what sonic is black too

God damn it i want to make sonic and the black knight customs now

[tardy echo]

Better question is have we had a non black color ub bad guy at all

[tardy echo]

Crazy

[golden plover]

Technically a sepiroth too but he doesn't really count

That was a flashback

[lusty trench]

Ultros

Gilgamesh

Seifer

Ultimacia

Combustion man

Zhao the moon slayer

A lot of the spiderman villains

[tardy echo]

Yeah Spider-Man is actually good about it

[sleek ferry]

So as expected sultai reanimator rep is way up

At the Portland RC

The superior spiderman + Deceit interaction is disgusting

[tardy echo]

Yeah lorwyn is crazy good for that deck

[sleek ferry]

Yeah + speaker being a huge buff for it as well

IMO it’s the best deck, but simic rep is still higher

[tardy echo]

I think we have to let it shake out a bit more

But any deck that was playing green gets big ups from lorwyn

[golden plover]

I dunno, I think there's too many answers to reanimator

I feel like I've got the MU every time rn

Because they cannot play through a strategic betrayal

[tardy echo]

Deceit effect gg idk

[golden plover]

Deceit is pretty good, yeah

But I dunno if the deck is good enough. Speaker is crazy good tho

[tardy echo]

Reanimator gets to use prob the 2 best of the new elementals

One of which directly helps with one of the decks bigger issues it had

and it now has a much easier time finding the big pieces to win as well as keep them out of its hand when you don’t want them

[sleek ferry]

T3 speaker t4 superior Spiderman is just too good

[tardy echo]

T1 elves t2 speaker t3 Spider-Man is even better

I’ve seen some lists on that one simic adventure card

The looting instant one

It seems kind of unnecessary though

[golden plover]

Are lists running Llanowar Elves now?

That feels wrong

[tardy echo]

They aren’t

I don’t think it’s that crazy though when you’re playing more than 1 single green card

[sleek ferry]

The issue here you can’t pay uubb for superior Spiderman to get both deceit effects on t3

[tardy echo]

Ik was mostly memeing

I think tendies might be playable in that deck though

Especially if ppl are still playing 4x bringer

[copper pecan]

did some lorwyn draft, went 5-3

turns out [[wildvine pummeler]] is still pretty good even if your deck only has two colors in it

[lost widget]

https://scryfall.com/card/ecl/203/wildvine-pummeler

Wildvine Pummeler <:mana6:292901508780130304><:manag:292901508654301185>

Creature — Giant Berserker
Vivid — This spell costs less to cast for each color among permanents you control.
Reach, trample
Stinging roots of wild magic woke the giant in a very foul mood.
6/5

[glad peak]

Yep, it feels like 3 is the breakpoint for toughness this set

[golden plover]

I feel like a jund boomer

Didn't try last season, but the second I switched back to Dimir I made mythic

Current list

I think I might cut the Bitterbloom Bearer if anything

[trail anvil]

you aren't liking it with enduring curiosity?

[atomic harness]

Good job, dimir = goat

[urban crane]

Should I get a Teferi protection yes or no?

As a little gift to myself

[sleek ferry]

Yeah why not

get the mystical archive version

[urban crane]

I know a guy locally that has it actually

That art I mean

Also thinking of getting the avatar version cause it’s cheaper

[sudden lava]

https://youtu.be/mOAPEYoFZWU

[hidden ermine]

Why is that one an alchemy card

You can just do that in paper

[copper pecan]

they probably just didn't have room for it in the paper set

sometimes stuff that got cut from the main set ends up being used in alchemy

[glad peak]

Is providence of night in the story?

Looks sick

[copper pecan]

i don't think it was in the story

it's a callback to the avatar cycle from shadowmoor

like [[godhead of awe]]

[lost widget]

https://scryfall.com/card/shm/142/godhead-of-awe

Godhead of Awe <:manawu:292901508696113153><:manawu:292901508696113153><:manawu:292901508696113153><:manawu:292901508696113153><:manawu:292901508696113153>

Creature — Spirit Avatar
Flying
Other creatures have base power and toughness 1/1.
"What she saw crawling upon this world repulsed her. Yet she could not tear her gaze away." —The Seer's Parables
4/4

[zinc shard]

https://magic.wizards.com/en/news/mtg-arena/announcements-january-26-2026?utm_medium=playerinbox&utm_source=arena

Tamiyo is banned in the next Brawl Metagame challenge

[glad peak]

So any new news on the limited championship or even how to qualify?

Idk if I wanna play kpop demon hunters pick 2 draft to qualify for limited champs lmao

[sudden lava]

Doubt we're getting a full set tbh

I can see 2 commander decks at most, or a few Secret Lairs minimum

[glad peak]

I know, it’s an example of how cringe getting into the event can be

[sleek ferry]

Are we getting a kpop demon hunter set?

[tardy echo]

We know there’s a collab but not what it is

[sleek ferry]

Hopefully just a secret lair(s)

Kpop demon hunter might be where I draw the line

It wasn’t even a top 2 animated film in 2025

[tardy echo]

I mean there’s not even enough content in that thing to make a set out of

It’s surely just a secret lair

Hopefully less than

[golden plover]

Surprisingly this is more in-universe than some ones we've actually gotten (the office and stranger things)

[tardy echo]

Spongebob…

[golden plover]

Oh god I forgot about SpongeBob

[subtle sierra]

spongebob counterspell is peak tho

[golden plover]

But yeah surely it's just a secret lair?

[zinc shard]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9c_mpxM-4_E

[glad peak]

It’s likely just a secrete lair but they’d make more money if it was a full set

Kpop people would buy the crap out of it and their market is bigger than final fantasy

[tardy echo]

Yes it would sell it would just also be the biggest sellout set of all time

[sudden lava]

We know WOTC is doing a Kpop demon hunter collab because of Hasbro

As Hasbro outright said they would be involved, we however don't know the nature of said collab (It could even be a D&D thing)

As a fan, there is definitely not enough material for a whole set. But a couple secret lairs or two commander decks can work

[glad peak]

There isn’t enough material but they’ve shown the willingness to put the same character in many cards so this could just be the most extreme of that

10 variations of all the girls

As for it being a sellout set, that’s sort of the point, no?

[golden plover]

Yeah I don't even see how you'd get 2 commander decks

[glad peak]

The only thing I’m afraid of is if they make the limited environment for the end of 2026 trash and that’s what we have to play to try to win an invite to the limited championship

Reality fracture might range from time spiral block to March of machines, hopefully closer to time spiral

[sudden lava]

You make one Huntr/x and the other Saja boys.

[golden plover]

That's the thing tho, most of the saja boys literally have no personality

And there's almost no supporting stuff for them

Huntr/x works because it's the characters we follow

But the Saja boys have pretty much nothing

[sudden lava]

The Saja boys one is easier because demon + human fans [[shadowborn apostle]]

[lost widget]

https://scryfall.com/card/2x2/89/shadowborn-apostle

Shadowborn Apostle <:manab:292901508872273920>

Creature — Human Cleric
A deck can have any number of cards named Shadowborn Apostle.
, Sacrifice six creatures named Shadowborn Apostle: Search your library for a Demon creature card, put it onto the battlefield, then shuffle.
1/1

[sudden lava]

Just print these as a fans, give the Saja boys and gwi-ma abilities related to sac humans

[golden plover]

What I'm saying is what do you do with their cards?

[sudden lava]

and print the music as sagas

[golden plover]

They don't have any personality

[sudden lava]

Make them typical demon support ironically makes it more on flavor,

cuz they are soul less

(And the fans will still eat it up)

The main 2 commanders to lead the deck can be Jinu and Gwima, they are allowed to cook for those.

[golden plover]

Or you just make a secret lair with the main girls, some form of team up card, and Jinu

[sudden lava]

I just dont see them doing only one commander deck if any, given the movie's conflict.

[golden plover]

They'd probably milk it to be like 3-4 secret lairs

I mean, there's really not enough design space for even 2 lairs

[sudden lava]

Songs as sagas, weapons, the bands, the fans

Bobby and Gwima

[sleek ferry]

If it’s limited to 3-4 secret lairs that’d be great

[glad peak]

Tbh they can make the Saja boys do literally anything make like 20 versions of them, and it’ll be the best selling set of the year

People underestimate the spending power of the kpop community

[tardy echo]

That is not the issue here

[glad peak]

It sort of is

The point is that it doesn’t matter if there’s not enough content or what any of the cards do, it’ll sell a crap ton for the virtue of it being kpop

Tbh with this I wouldn’t be surprised if they made a commander deck for each of the hunter/x and saja boy members with how popular theyre projected to be

[sudden lava]

Shadowborn Apostle is like perfect for the Saja boys deck, and if they dont wanna do songs as sagas they can just make the lyrics into separate cards

[vivid hatch]

fat pickups today

[tardy echo]

Not having enough content to make an interesting set =/= a set that won’t sell

It just means it’s a pretty clearly money hungry grab

[sleek ferry]

Well I mean that’s why Hasbro is currently being sued

[copper pecan]

no they got sued for not being even more moneygrubbing

the thing they're getting sued for is for printing too much of the sets they put out, not for printing too many sets

having more copies of cards on the market drives down prices, which is what the people suing are mad about

[past socket]

Also just feels like a nothingburger suit from what I’ve seen

[sleek ferry]

Oh it’s a finance bro lawsuit nvm, that shit is not based

[glad peak]

It’s a pretty meh suit

But yeah they want to be more money grabbing and very likely will try to go through there

[copper pecan]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/507388259165536263/1465499975000784967/pbt4kq1pjqfg1.png?ex=697954b5&is=69780335&hm=27fe359f94cee6f0665cfc8af4c9e95c09c317e0d87aeccf1370d0279afb5ed4&=&format=webp&quality=lossless&width=586&height=818

[atomic harness]

Sure thing

[tardy echo]

I miss golos @atomic harness @twilit canyon

[twilit canyon]

unfairly killed

[tardy echo]

Commander players hate ramp so much it’s crazy actually

[past socket]

And I’m David Copperfield

[golden plover]

Reanimator is moving away from the Bringer gameplan to Scam Deceit??? That can't be right????

Surely Living End is better than 4 mana thoughtseize twice

[twilit canyon]

commander players hate everything tbf

[sleek ferry]

4 mana thoughtseize + bounce is insane tempo

And was game winning many times on streams

[trail anvil]

commander players are just uncreative it's not wizards fault

just play brawl he's legal there 😉

[glad peak]

https://youtube.com/shorts/Qre468tc68Y?si=BuQaY-O6hQZCm3gJ

this guy’s in our channel

Nah it’s a coincidence he posted this a day after we talked about it

[atomic harness]

[glad peak]

But it also wasn’t the first time this has happened hmmm

If we see a vid tomorrow about kpop demon hunters then we’ll know

[sudden lava]

why tomorrow?

[glad peak]

Because the topic in this vid was what we talked about yesterday

[sudden lava]

OH cuz we talked about Kpop earlier yeah

[trail anvil]

wizards will show us how it's done done done

[sudden lava]

We need a sussie birb in dimir

https://tenor.com/view/screaming-sussie-kpop-demon-hunters-yelling-aaah-gif-5233366795026964868

[trail anvil]

a UB secret lair just makes too much sense though

[glad peak]

Logically, yes

But money

If they run out of ideas they can just turn every lyric into a card

[sudden lava]

Assassin Creed "How do I pronounce this card" all over again

[trail anvil]

I think they're more likely to do multiple cards for the girls at that point lol

[sudden lava]

One for every outfit, plus a bonus one of after Rumi has her demon patterns exposed

plus one of all 3 girls on 1 card

https://tenor.com/view/i-see-i-see-healer-han-kpop-demon-hunters-heo-jun-bong-daniel-dae-kim-gif-17200175913502087998

(We also need a card of the doctor guy)

[glad peak]

Well they’re gonna do multiple cards per kpop idol for sure regardless

[trail anvil]

for rumi probably, the other two don't get nearly as much focus

[urban crane]

What do people think of the new jund precons?

[golden plover]

God I told y'all moonshadow was a fraud. That card is doing absolutely nothing

[fallow citrus]

https://youtu.be/Fc9R7yr6qJc?si=wevXEsOLN301dBNF

[golden plover]

Is it working in modern? Last I heard was "it's probably decent but there's not a deck there" and it did nothing over the weekend

In standard it's unplayable lol

I keep running into bad moonshadow brews in mythic and the card dies to a stiff breeze

"I'm gonna set up for a t3 7/7 for 1 mana"
No you won't, the hex is coming

[golden plover]

That yuriko card is pretty good

[sudden lava]

Well, it is Yuriko

[golden plover]

I mean, that's the joke

[sudden lava]

ah gotcha

[golden plover]

The real joke is ranked brawl (and brawl as a whole)

[sudden lava]

TRUE

[golden plover]

But if they're gonna offer rewards for it, imma just play yuriko

[trail anvil]

right??

[sleek ferry]

ranked brawl would never work for obvious reasons

the only reason cedh works is due to the 4 player dynamic

in 1v1 like this, you could literally draw your 7, compare hands, and decide a winner based off that, and that's assuming the winner wasn't already decided from the commander matchup

[fallow citrus]

I mean it's just duel commander

[golden plover]

Yeah that's literally how this goes lol

If I draw a 1 drop into yuriko I've got it

The only loss was because they had more answers than I had guys

[sleek ferry]

another format that doesn't work for the exact same reason tbf

[golden plover]

But yeah, if they really wanna do ranked Brawl, Yuriko has to be banned

Tamiyo was the only thing keeping her in check lol

[sleek ferry]

I think you would have to do too many bans in the format to make it semi competitive tbh

[golden plover]

Oh 1000%

[sleek ferry]

to the point that it's not worth

[golden plover]

But they're trying to push for ranked brawl

[trail anvil]

how many bans do we make before we return to regular brawl

[trail anvil]

it's a really big format and they want competitive people spending money

[golden plover]

If they ban yuriko this time, something like flip Ajani becomes the next problem

Then when he gets banned something else takes his place

They'd have to do this every event

[trail anvil]

when are we getting an ajani ban in brawl anyways

[sleek ferry]

My issue as an Arena player is that for me to branch off from standard to Brawl, it would literally take me at least 40 wild cards to even be semi competitive

[golden plover]

Really funny that [[Ugin the Spirit Dragon]] is still on the brawl banlsit btw

[lost widget]

https://scryfall.com/card/m21/1/ugin-the-spirit-dragon

Ugin, the Spirit Dragon <:mana8:292901508830330880>

Legendary Planeswalker — Ugin
+2: Ugin deals 3 damage to any target.
−X: Exile each permanent with mana value X or less that's one or more colors.
−10: You gain 7 life, draw seven cards, then put up to seven permanent cards from your hand onto the battlefield.
Loyalty: 7

[trail anvil]

they don't want ramp to stabilize

[golden plover]

Like I can't see a time I'd wanna play him over Nugin

[trail anvil]

I think you'd play both, a colorless complete board wipe is potent

newgin ramps into oldgin too

[golden plover]

I mean if you're on colorless or whatever yeah

But like Oldgin is not that much of a problem now

[trail anvil]

I think in stuff like monogreen too

[golden plover]

Y'all allow shit like chrome mox and yuriko

[trail anvil]

I think you could unban it at this point

[golden plover]

For sure

But it feels like the brawl banlist involves randomly guessing when cards are legal

It's better than historic I guess, where they just close their eyes and throw darts at cards in the set to ban

But like, Brawl should have a banlist closer to duel commander

We're already getting Strixhaven previews??

I hate this

Wait that's the main set logo? I thought this was a commander card

DOMINIK MAYER STOCK UP

[lusty trench]

Hang on a moment

This is gas

[golden plover]

Looking at this art, I'm p sure this was supposed to be three steps ahead and got swapped later in development

Both the English and Japanese arts focus on 3

[sleek ferry]

@subtle sierra https://x.com/mtgdecks/status/2015883893556064766?s=46&t=DdUsqNPs-c3IFDRYOhiq8A

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X · Jan 26, 2026, 8:25 PM

Bant is the only deck without a bad matchup

[subtle sierra]

was it speaker that made them shot them up?

i kiiiiinda feel the card is fake but that's cope cause he's expensive

[trail anvil]

adore this

the madmen really did it

[sleek ferry]

That’s the baby list that top 8’d over the weekend

I think the more consistent mana base + speaker + interdimensional web watch becoming the norm all contributed

[subtle sierra]

Ngl I'm a big hater of the current lists, but ig I'm not a pro

🤷‍♂️

I run a second combo with jackdaw savior and visage bandit

Which usually means if crossroads lands you win

[sleek ferry]

I think that's fine tbh. I'm not a fan of copying topping lists 1 to 1 for anything more than a teaching tool

[last glen]

smh baby's Quadratic Equation Cannon

[sleek ferry]

but it is good to have the data for meta reasons

[glad peak]

Lorehold is pretty damn good

[subtle sierra]

I'm on this rn for context

[glad peak]

Now to see how many extra turn spells we get in standard or how fast we can get him out in eternal formats

[sleek ferry]

This looks solid enough, you should probably make room for formidable speaker though

[last glen]

What's the accepted rate for card draw these days? One card per two mana?

[subtle sierra]

Nah i just spent 50 euro on shocks I'm not spending 20 more for speaker

The problem with speaker in my list is that I don't shit out mana

So adding a combo piece just means using it next turn

I'd rather just focus on getting like 3 aang triggers on turn 3/4/5

[sleek ferry]

Card Draw in general or are you counting stock up as well?

Stock up is pretty much the standard for card advantage at 3 mana, add 2 from top 4-5

[last glen]

in general, I suppose
although I'll ask
what's the specifics with Stock Up

[subtle sierra]

[[stock up]]

[lost widget]

https://scryfall.com/card/dft/67/stock-up

Stock Up <:mana2:292901509060886528><:manau:292901508754702338>

Sorcery
Look at the top five cards of your library. Put two of them into your hand and the rest on the bottom of your library in any order.
"We are now accepting over eleven different interplanar currencies, including polished moonfall!"

[subtle sierra]

2 cards off 3 mana for a sorc

[sleek ferry]

there's a better stockup that's 3 colors and is an instant also, but it's more niche due to that

[[consult the star charts]] is another one that sees play

[lost widget]

https://scryfall.com/card/eoe/51/consult-the-star-charts

Consult the Star Charts <:mana1:292901508373282827><:manau:292901508754702338>

Instant
Kicker (You may pay an additional as you cast this spell.)
Look at the top X cards of your library, where X is the number of lands you control. Put one of those cards into your hand. If this spell was kicked, put two of those cards into your hand instead. Put the rest on the bottom of your library in a random order.

[sudden lava]

NOOOOOO

There's your expected 5 precons btw

[sleek ferry]

I’m excited for these, I ordered all 5 precons in of strixhaven, def doing it for these also

[trail anvil]

I wanna see all 5 interpretations on their characters tbh

[golden plover]

Is Zimone the only character to have been a face commander for 2 different precons now?

[trail anvil]

I feel like I haven't seen relevant versions of all of these, and dina is a combo bot

[sleek ferry]

Was she the face for the last one? I thought it was the spirit thing

[trail anvil]

yep apparently*

[golden plover]

She's one of three faces in Duskmourn

Adrix and Nev were the face last time, with Esix being the alternative commander

[trail anvil]

quandrix is my favorite flavor of dumb simic shit

[sleek ferry]

Really? I found quandrix to probably be the weakest one last time around

other than the instant/sorceries

[sudden lava]

Dina

oh wait Dina was secondary

😭 OMG YES

Instant buy

[sleek ferry]

I just realized

Tam went from a first year to a 2nd year

pretty quickly

[[tam mindful first year]]

[lost widget]

https://scryfall.com/card/ecl/245/tam-mindful-first-year

Tam, Mindful First-Year <:mana1:292901508373282827><:managu:292901509035851788>

Legendary Creature — Gorgon Wizard
Each other creature you control has hexproof from each of its colors.
: Target creature you control becomes all colors until end of turn.
"What are the odds? And what would you like them to be?"
2/2

[golden plover]

This is busted in Jeskai control, no?

Miracle into a [[Jeskai Revelation]]

Gg

[lost widget]

https://scryfall.com/card/tdm/196/jeskai-revelation

Jeskai Revelation <:mana4:292901508712890379><:manau:292901508754702338><:manar:292901508796645397><:manaw:1007102126813610074>

Instant
Return target spell or permanent to its owner's hand. Jeskai Revelation deals 4 damage to any target. Create two 1/1 white Monk creature tokens with prowess. Draw two cards. You gain 4 life.
"No one of us could have built all this alone. A clan, a school, hope for the future. Thank you all." —Narset, to Shiko, Taigam, and Elsha

[trail anvil]

wrecking a tamiyo player's hand with emrakul ❤️

holding priority can make blue do such nasty things to themselves

[tardy echo]

Deeply unserious first reveal for the set

[golden plover]

Yeah that feels like an uncard

Lorehold is broken tho

[tardy echo]

HUGE

[golden plover]

Honestly I can't think of a card you don't wanna miracle into in Jeskai control

Stock up is totally fine

And anything else is just value

$80 bundle, guaranteed sol Ring and a random talisman

The art for these fucks bit it should've been all the talismans

Like they're $1 uncommons

Could we really not get all 6 for $90?

[sleek ferry]

You could literally just run this and paragon as your only creatures and go crazy, card is pretty good

[trail anvil]

yeah but that's peak quandrix

[golden plover]

Yeah that's what I'm thinking. Honestly, this is just straight up better than Shiko

[trail anvil]

[[exponential growth]]

[golden plover]

Ngl Shiko is a very bad control wincon

[lost widget]

https://scryfall.com/card/stx/130/exponential-growth

Exponential Growth <:manax:292901509082120202><:manax:292901509082120202><:manag:292901508654301185><:manag:292901508654301185>

Sorcery
Until end of turn, double target creature's power X times.
Most Quandrix students fundamentally disagree with the concept of "enough."

[trail anvil]

o

took a bit

[golden plover]

She'll die the turn she comes down most of the time and doesn't really do much board presence-wise

[sleek ferry]

You would still want Shiko to get value off the stock ups in your gy imo

[golden plover]

This in theory connects for 5 right away

[sleek ferry]

Even if they remove it, you still dug 5 deep and got the best 2 cards from there

In control that’s everything

[golden plover]

I guess you'd probably still run 1-3 Shiko

But I feel like Shiko is kinda meh

[sleek ferry]

What makes Shiko good is that you get the value instantly so even if they remove it, that doesn’t really affect your own gameplan. It also just says a lot about your opponents hand if they can’t afford to leave Shiko around

[golden plover]

Hmm fair. I don't play control and they die too quickly to everything I play, but I can see it

[trail anvil]

the combination of great value + decent enough body to not be able to ignore?

[sudden lava]

I think this takes place at start of the semester timeline wise

So her lorewyn version is her before the start of the year (She was there for one year), and then this set is the beginning of her 2nd year

[subtle sierra]

shiko into stock up into a removal traded shiko into the removal and you had +2

in control your wincon is lands

[sleek ferry]

yeah, solar has the right idea

[golden plover]

Gotcha. I was definitely undervaluing Shiko

[subtle sierra]

yeah like that's undervaluing it but also at the same time i will 100% agree that shiko sucks ass

i'd play like one as a 5th stock up that might be a helix

there are better options rn

unagi into lessons, wan shi tong exists

although wan shi tong now has the issue that spell snare exists again in standard

[golden plover]

True, and there's no fetches in standard

[subtle sierra]

the fetches are w/e

[golden plover]

Nah, Wan Shi Tong proccs off a fetch

[subtle sierra]

in control you want a guy that you can flash in in their ep

nah i get that but that's literally not why you play it

[golden plover]

That's what I'm saying

[subtle sierra]

you couldn't care less for the search proc, you only care that it's like a 6/6 that trades favorably into a creature removal

[golden plover]

Yeah I mean, we flash in Curiosity and Unagi in Dimir

I get it, I'm just saying he's weaker here than elsewhere

[subtle sierra]

true but i think it doesn't matter much

[golden plover]

Probably not

[tardy echo]

Not having fetches makes other decks worse than the buff wan shi tong gets from having fetches

[glad peak]

Hmm sus the guy I posted for using our convos for content just posted a line I made in my casual games and posted here

[tardy echo]

Maybe the guy is you

[glad peak]

Damn YouTube changing my skin color

[sudden lava]

we got the face commanders now

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1371350916242079805/1465776664242946342/image.png?ex=697a5665&is=697904e5&hm=da8f0ac343411601f67d8f7752907e2b430a78e69d5772524d996fc2f0be65fe&=&format=webp&quality=lossless&width=1075&height=804

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1371350916242079805/1465774921266237521/xgq4ujvdpxfg1.png?ex=697a54c6&is=69790346&hm=a72360bf8a1fa170e0d72bd9663e925c27098bc6615b9ab6eadc8f94132aa8f2&=&format=webp&quality=lossless&width=1056&height=775

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1371350916242079805/1465774897522540818/qtfy2jvdpxfg1.png?ex=697a54c0&is=69790340&hm=65e76fb1dcb5cc4d2a9739f705b1ababc43e699c340a67114a21c257a933c67f&=&format=webp&quality=lossless&width=1136&height=804

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1371350916242079805/1465774827200708762/a7rcjjvdpxfg1.png?ex=697a54af&is=6979032f&hm=6fd733126ce9696c0c26a018af8b62954aea12ba47f0d841e9ab4ed6b7426148&=&format=webp&quality=lossless&width=928&height=694

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1371350916242079805/1465774802089541854/image.png?ex=697a54a9&is=69790329&hm=821a52378d6e5487410e32d41fadf7f734bf70e783f539819db6885f54de6483&=&format=webp&quality=lossless&width=911&height=677

[glad peak]

I still can’t believe they made a whole college and graduate program for dissing people

She hasn’t finished her thesis and THAT’S why she “doesn’t want to graduate”? That’s sort of a prerequisite to graduate in grad school

[trail anvil]

it's an x cost commander

[glad peak]

They really gonna make Rootha, graduate dropout next, aren’t they

[trail anvil]

this reminds me of the gruul version in kamigawa

[trail anvil]

nah I'm sure she'll eventually decide on one piece of art

[glad peak]

I would hope so, schools aren’t exactly patient with their grad school seniors failing to do their thesis that took a couple years already

[golden plover]

That sure is a boring Doom lol

[trail anvil]

idk fam somehow getting a lot of lands in my hand for a big kill at once sounds like fun

land discard to burn the table is interesting in these colors

[golden plover]

This one is even more boring lol

Also these have 30 new cards??? What

[trail anvil]

it's a powerstone with indestructible

[trail anvil]

but yeah this one is insanely boring, weird

[golden plover]

Yeah black panther was the only sorta interesting one

[glad peak]

I wish this had green in it, it would’ve been beautiful

I don’t understand why it’s specifically lands he cares about if he’s not green

[trail anvil]

reverse nekusar

[glad peak]

Green would’ve been beautiful because you could do gitrog + dakmor + end step

[trail anvil]

[[tectonic reformation]] buyout inc

[lost widget]

https://scryfall.com/card/c20/162/tectonic-reformation

Tectonic Reformation <:mana1:292901508373282827><:manar:292901508796645397>

Enchantment
Each land card in your hand has cycling .
Cycling (, Discard this card: Draw a card.)
Alone in the charred desolation of her kingdom, she regretted many things—most of all not acting sooner.

[urban crane]

Cause he’s a Ub villain so he needs to be grixis

[glad peak]

Oh right I forgot white and green were good people colors

With red and blue being middle ground

My mistake

[golden plover]

Black = Bad
Blue = Smart
Red = Reckless/Hero
White = Good Guy
Green = Whoever we have left

Gotta consult the chart

[glad peak]

The star charts?

[golden plover]

Nah the "universes beyond character color chart"

Although captain America is red white and blue because america

[urban crane]

I mean blue and black do really fit doom

[zinc shard]

Bundle promos

[urban crane]

You can read those?

[glad peak]

Black and blue fits him

[zinc shard]

Nope

[glad peak]

Red though? Especially with the effect?

[urban crane]

Like I can see it’s scarlet witch and she’s I think a 3/3

[glad peak]

Land = green, end of story

[golden plover]

But he's not nature, he's a villain

[urban crane]

Al ub vilains need to be grixis end of story

[golden plover]

So grixis

[hidden ermine]

Eh this one fits Cap well tbh

[urban crane]

It fits him yeah

I see the land thing with doom I think now

[past socket]

Are the leakers Magic has also Bigfoot hunters

Holy crap the photo quality sucks

[urban crane]

It’s latveria atleast that becomes my personal headcanon

Or it’s a secret wars thing

[subtle sierra]

Yeah the land thing is just for connive to not whiff

[urban crane]

Yes but my headcanon is cooler so that’s the official reason now that’s how that works on the internet right

[glad peak]

if it was a secret wars thing then he would've been all 5 colors, let's be honest

if it were latveria, why is he dealing damage for leaving his country to die

[sudden lava]

Is this a reveal for ants?

[urban crane]

Damn you and your sound logic

[sudden lava]

think mark think meme esque art

[last glen]

is this the same Captain America as the previous secret lair
or did they just do the RWB gag again

[glad peak]

Different one

Same gag

[sudden lava]

different, but same america joke

[past socket]

In America!

[sudden lava]

https://tenor.com/view/bandit-keith-ghost-kotsuzuka-yugioh-yugioh-duel-monsters-ghost-kozuka-gif-5069692817951911063

[past socket]

Tbf it fits Cap but the bit remains

[sudden lava]

awwwww

[zinc shard]

Shame Black Widow doesn't have an effect to remove a creature from the battlefield for ruining the vibes

[hidden ermine]

... wait why is she white anyway

Villain counterpart

[glad peak]

she should be black and red

because her name is black widow and she's played by scarlet

(don't tell me wotc wouldn't have done that)

[subtle sierra]

first strike into draw ig

[zinc shard]

Ultron better have a more exciting version in the commander decks

[golden plover]

These are some of the least inspired cards I've ever seen lol

None of them really fit the character except maybe Loki

[sudden lava]

mechanic leaked

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/448940916833648640/1465818757434839252/secrets-of-strixhaven-and-marvel-super-heroes-interesting-v0-5qh848zj6yfg1.png?ex=697a7d99&is=69792c19&hm=715f0195c4919cc8ddeaf9c0109d762380cead93757cbfb2728b2479738a0e75&=&format=webp&quality=lossless&width=1080&height=454

"prepare mechanic"

[glad peak]

https://tenor.com/view/be-prepared-gif-11209709

Is it going to be a mechanic of 7 mana wipe the board with the option of it being free if you have a creature 7 or greater

[sudden lava]

hoping for Jeff aka Blahaj in the marvel set

https://tenor.com/view/jeff-jeff-the-land-shark-marvel-rivals-gif-9464033626449645558

[twilit canyon]

timeless is such a funny format. ppl will play truly bad shit like these black necro/sorin lists that got popular for reasons other than sorin and then fold instantly to a real deck.

[copper pecan]

fascinating new card

[twilit canyon]

oh thats a pretty fun card

[golden plover]

Oh theres only one Headliner Infinity Stone in Marvel 2.... 6 Goddamn Marvel sets....

[glad peak]

do we know what it is?

[golden plover]

Mind Stone

6 Marvels Sets is crazy tho

[glad peak]

surely tmnt counts as 1, right?

[golden plover]

Lmao nah, NYC block is 7 sets

We'll have NYC more than Ravnica by the end of this

8 when Universes Beyond - Sex And The City (2028) drops

[stark skiff]

https://tenor.com/view/thanos-avengers-infinity-war-mind-stone-last-stone-infinity-gauntlet-gif-15735729

[glad peak]

so i checked mtgtop8 after a long time to check on duel commander

lmao what

spider-man 2099 is 133.3% of the meta

[tardy echo]

Best selling set of the decade

[tardy echo]

Can this pull itself

[sleek ferry]

https://x.com/ondrejstrasky/status/2016318458401521750?s=46&t=DdUsqNPs-c3IFDRYOhiq8A

Ondrej Strasky (@OndrejStrasky)

My decklist for PT Lorwyn Eclipsed!

(might change Lush Portico to Multiversal Passage based on poll results).

X · Jan 28, 2026, 1:12 AM

[trail anvil]

so wait if you airbend bramble familiar you can cast the adventure side for 2 mana?

[subtle sierra]

Yes

I've been doing that for months now

T3 fetch quest into crossroads into smth else is a drug

[sleek ferry]

https://x.com/mtgrebellion/status/2016234853117624760?s=46&t=DdUsqNPs-c3IFDRYOhiq8A

The MTG Rebellion (@MtgRebellion)

Ice storms yesterday mean you get two posts today. Here's the situation: You are on game 1 piloting Sultai Reanimator vs Simic Nature's Rhythm while on the play. You've already mulled once. Do you mull to 5 or keep this hand? What do you put back if you mull?

X · Jan 27, 2026, 7:40 PM

I think you keep, toss wist and hope you draw a 2nd black source no?

[glad peak]

Surely you keep and toss superior, right?

Slow enough matchup that wist or balemurk gets you an extra copy if needed while filling up the yard and deceit to get rid of something in hand

So interesting to see in RC, ouro is still seeing play as expected but some people want to remove it from their decks

[twilit canyon]

im tossing a land here