Magic the Gathering

[golden plover]

But also, Badgermole is not long for this world and fuck this shit

That's after a boardwipe btw

[trail anvil]

w6 is gonna be potent but so are a lot of things in brawl tbh. the biggest problem was the strip mine loop because you'd be perma locked out of lands instantly

[last glen]

okay I'll ask the dumb question
is T1 Elf T2 Badgermole that good

[golden plover]

Considering you enter 3 with 5 mana, probably yeah

The simic deck can drop shit like t3 ouroboroid and you're just kinda dead lol

We need a damping sphere for creatures

[tardy echo]

Looping boseiju is still pretty insane idk

[tardy echo]

Yes

T1 elf t2 mole is also still another 2 drop on turn 2 lol

Or another elf and then you have 7 mana t3

[golden plover]

Mole shouldn't have been fucking printed lol

[tardy echo]

Let green have good cards

[golden plover]

I have no clue what exists in standard that can beat t2 mole on the draw

Do we tech [[Aetherize]]? Is that our best bet?

[lost widget]

https://scryfall.com/card/fdn/151/aetherize

Aetherize <:mana3:292901508771610624><:manau:292901508754702338>

Instant
Return all attacking creatures to their owner's hand.
"You can come back once you've learned some manners—and figured out how to reconstitute your physical forms."

[sleek ferry]

They do have 7 mana on t3, but the best payoff these decks are running is fucking ouroboid

So unless something pops up that actually wins the game, it’s fine for now

[golden plover]

I mean 12 7/7s on three with trample is kinda hard to deal with

[sleek ferry]

That ouroboid is never living to trigger on t3

Especially the simic version that runs basically 0 protection

In the main at least

[copper pecan]

https://magic.wizards.com/en/news/feature/designing-avatar-the-last-airbender-the-four-elements

pretty interesting article

they considered having bending just be one mechanic, but it ended up making the set feel way too repetitive because of how many cards needed to represent benders

also, they considered having cards that cared about doing any of the types of bending, but all of them except for [[avatar aang]] got cut from the set

[lost widget]

https://scryfall.com/card/tla/207/avatar-aang-aang-master-of-elements

Avatar Aang <:manar:292901508796645397><:manag:292901508654301185><:manaw:1007102126813610074><:manau:292901508754702338>

Legendary Creature — Human Avatar Ally
Flying, firebending 2
Whenever you waterbend, earthbend, firebend, or airbend, draw a card. Then if you've done all four this turn, transform Avatar Aang.
When the world needed him most, the Avatar returned.
4/4

Aang, Master of Elements
Legendary Creature — Avatar Ally
Flying
Spells you cast cost less to cast.
At the beginning of each upkeep, you may transform Aang, Master of Elements. If you do, you gain 4 life, draw four cards, put four +1/+1 counters on him, and he deals 4 damage to each opponent.
6/6

[fallow citrus]

sheesh didn't realise how good badgermole cub was in yawg

t1 halfling t2 cub t3 win

powerful words

[glad peak]

We love yawgy daddy

[golden plover]

I disagree when every single thing they play is a must remove

Don't kill the Badger? 1 billion mana attack

Don't kill Druneth? Board in a box

Don't kill Ouroboroid? They're all huge

Unless you can kill their play every turn for the first 4 turns, they're gonna snowball

[sleek ferry]

That druneth is not threatening you in any way

[glad peak]

This is why I don’t believe when people say lifegain’s going to be too good because of the nemesis ban

[golden plover]

Lifegain isn't gonna get anywhere lol

Now it's just simic that'll kill you before you have any plans

[sleek ferry]

If they can’t kill you by 4, (which they won’t if you remove ouroboid) they just lose

[glad peak]

One of my friends fell for the hype and bought the entire deck, only to be stomped

[golden plover]

I'm not sure what the deck fully looks like yet, but no matter what I play, they feel favored

I think the deck is fine on a hand they don't see badger on 2

But badger on 2 just feels unwinnable

[copper pecan]

bad players tend to drastically overestimate how strong lifegain is because they don't run enough removal and don't know how to deal with pridemate

[tardy echo]

Well yes the deck existed a week ago and was completely fine

[sleek ferry]

Any boardwipe deals with the deck, avatar’s wrath completely kills the deck if they have multiple earthbended lands, also, the main issue the deck has, the card quality in simic isn’t great. You play 2 good cards in the deck; badgermole and ouroboid

[glad peak]

Lifegain’s a real deck in standard

[golden plover]

I dunno, it's definitely the deck I feel like should most be watched

It's too early to really call anything

But badger was obviously too pushed the second that card got revealed

[glad peak]

But yeah lifegain’s completely fine as a deck, it’s nowhere near as good as some people were saying it was going to be if nemesis got banned though

[golden plover]

Id argue it probably won't even end up t2 or better

It'll be playable, but nemesis wasn't what was holding lifegain back

[sleek ferry]

Every top player I’ve seen is on Blue/white, or they play bant (where badgermole is actually really good because your card quality is 10x higher)

[glad peak]

Yep blue white is very strong from what I’m seeing too but izzet terror lessons is peak gameplay

Crackling Drake is back in the format

[golden plover]

What's the blue white list look like? I'm playing an Azorious Flash thing that I like, but I feel like the simic matchup is unwinnable

[tardy echo]

I think the lessons deck looks so cool but I can’t imagine terror is the correct payoff for it

When u can combo kill very easily

[sleek ferry]

Similar to yours but you actually play answers instead of 25-30 creatures

[golden plover]

The lessons deck looks really neat yeah

And no shot the lesson ancestral recall doesn't die in Strixhaven

[sleek ferry]

I’ve been saying this lol

Strixhaven is going to get 2-3 of these lessons killed

[tardy echo]

This is the least unpopular opinion I’ve read since the set dropped

[sleek ferry]

The black duress lesson is so good btw

[tardy echo]

Unless they accidentally forget to put learn on a playable card it’ll just get auto banned

Yes

Every color has a good lesson

[golden plover]

Hell, might even take gram gram with it lol

[glad peak]

Terror and the x/3 that tracks lessons and draws when it dies and you have lessons in grave are your payoff

[sleek ferry]

When’s the next PT, I’m trying to see the allies list everybody keeps hyping up

[glad peak]

Of course, ancestral recall too

[tardy echo]

Instead of doing that you can just play slickshot and kill them in one turn

Idk

[golden plover]

I think the Ally deck is only sorta real lol

It has an explosive turn if the opponent is asleep at the wheel

[glad peak]

That’s a completely different deck

[tardy echo]

The draw guy is a good blocker but I see lists playing 3 different terrors and that shit seems so dogshit lol

[golden plover]

But the second they have cards in hand: Deck cannot do anything

[tardy echo]

It’s the same exact idea idk

[sleek ferry]

Kirin has been an allstar for me in Azorius so far, protection or value or sometimes both? Yes please

[glad peak]

The deck you’re talking about is a combo deck with iroh and artist’s, I’m talking about a tempo deck that needs lessons to gain more advantage, they’re fundamentally different decks

[tardy echo]

The tempo deck can also literally just play slickshot

I am talking about the same deck

The iroh deck is its own thing I don’t think that’s real unfortunately

[sleek ferry]

The iroh deck can be real if you add an actual wincon

[glad peak]

There is an actual wincon, slickshot

[tardy echo]

I mean even with one it needs a lot to go right

The actual real wincon is ral gg

[sleek ferry]

I also think there’s probably the best [[monument of endurance]] deck we’ve had so far available to us if we want it

[lost widget]

https://scryfall.com/card/dft/237/monument-to-endurance

Monument to Endurance <:mana3:292901508771610624>

Artifact
Whenever you discard a card, choose one that hasn't been chosen this turn —
• Draw a card.
• Create a Treasure token.
• Each opponent loses 3 life.
Loss is not the end of the journey.

[steady onyx]

how do I find these lists

[subtle sierra]

i will say bant isn't as popular in mtga imo simply cause it's a pain to execute there

there are bunch of ppl that don't scoop to infinite tokens, and the "infinite" tokens are about 30 actually

it's kinda cringe

at least i can buff a lower amount of tokens with aang's transform

[fallow citrus]

yeah it's the only thing that stops me playing any combo deck on arena really

[zinc shard]

tinkering with this

definetely need to cut down on the 4 mana shrines

[trail anvil]

[[crescent Island Temple]]

[lost widget]

https://scryfall.com/card/tla/129/crescent-island-temple

Crescent Island Temple <:mana3:292901508771610624><:manar:292901508796645397>

Legendary Enchantment — Shrine
When Crescent Island Temple enters, for each Shrine you control, create a 1/1 red Monk creature token with prowess. (Whenever you cast a noncreature spell, it gets +1/+1 until end of turn.)
Whenever another Shrine you control enters, create a 1/1 red Monk creature token with prowess.

[zinc shard]

definetely could see cutting that one

also been considering [[Case File Auditor]]

[lost widget]

https://scryfall.com/card/mkm/7/case-file-auditor

Case File Auditor <:mana2:292901509060886528><:manaw:1007102126813610074>

Creature — Human Detective
When this creature enters and whenever you solve a Case, look at the top six cards of your library. You may reveal an enchantment card from among them and put it into your hand. Put the rest on the bottom of your library in a random order.
You may spend mana as though it were mana of any color to cast Case spells.
1/4

[sudden lava]

Katara Water Tribes hope did well in locals today

[trail anvil]

I feel like at that point I'd rather run aang's iceberg or sheltered by ghosts for removal

this card does not seem super constructed playable

[zinc shard]

well well

oh btw, if you break the cabbage cart near the top left you get a reward

[trail anvil]

yeah sadly the cabbage pet only has one animation

it is a fun little Easter egg though

[trail anvil]

holy shit azula is so fun

you take 5 million game actions but blitzing someone to death with spells is always such a rush

copying this many spells should be illegal

[atomic harness]

Proud of you kommers

[glad peak]

so where are we putting [[phoenix airship]] in modern now

[lost widget]

https://scryfall.com/card/tla/114/phoenix-fleet-airship

Phoenix Fleet Airship <:mana2:292901509060886528><:manab:292901508872273920><:manab:292901508872273920>

Artifact — Vehicle
Flying
At the beginning of your end step, if you sacrificed a permanent this turn, create a token that's a copy of this Vehicle.
As long as you control eight or more permanents named Phoenix Fleet Airship, this Vehicle is an artifact creature.
Crew 1
4/4

[tardy echo]

It sort of reminds me of kess when that was a good deck

Durdling around with a control shell and then blowing your opponent up out of nothing

[subtle sierra]

this is peak

[trail anvil]

I'm sure that's one way you could build her, currently I have her as aggro with so many creatures to kill that they hopefully waste their removal on those ones lol

[stark skiff]

shoulda cut him too tbh

[golden plover]

Is it me or is the bant airbending combo deck unplayable

[subtle sierra]

depends on the build

i tried a build i saw posted here that ran dorks and that one is unplayable garbage

i play it as a scuffed uw control that has it's counter spells replaced with aang and aven, and i use the combo as a finisher

doc gives a lot of value to appa or aang or ascension already even without the combo, so in essence you have "multiple" combos

but if he dies he dies, you can live with that

i don't have the full thing built in mtga but this is what i'll go for irl

not posting lands cause i suck at their ratios and prob won't follow it anyway in either irl or arena

but basically it's a slightly slower version of what you're playing

but has the combo

[golden plover]

Huh I'll try that one and see

The one with dorks felt awful

[sleek ferry]

The Orzhov sac deck feels pretty decent ngl

[subtle sierra]

it just gets shit on by tempo and aggro, and control will board wipe you, while combo doesn't need 3 pieces usually, so even if you can technically do it earlier you still have to draw both dorks and the combo

so like

it has literal no good matchups

the only dork i'm trying rn is badgermole, cause it's that powerful imo

and if you loop it you infinitely boost a land, so that's another wincon besides making tokens in their end step

[golden plover]

I swear arena knows when I'm testing a new deck and intentionally gives me bad matchups. What mono-red list still mains Magebane and Razorkin???

Razorkin I get, but mained Magebane???

[glad peak]

With the lists spamming lessons, makes sense ngl

[golden plover]

Yeah fair. Just weird to see it

[last glen]

It's long been rumored that Arena adjusts your matchmaking based on the deck you're playing with

I've run into multiple people who say they even confirmed it somewhere, but I wouldn't know

[twilit canyon]

only in unranked bo1

iirc

there is an internal mmr

so say i decided to try and turbo lose a ton of matches and de rank myself by not ranking up during a season and drop to bronze, i'd still get paired with mythic top numbers bc my internal mmr wouldnt tank that much in comparison

[last glen]

I don't mean so much skill level
Moreso the kind of decks you face
For example, when I'm playing RG, the matchmaking is more likely to give me WU or UB matchups (in theory)
to reduce color mirror matches

[twilit canyon]

ah no thats just not a thing

theres been no proof of it

[tardy echo]

Isn’t there hell queue for brawl

[twilit canyon]

yeah

[tardy echo]

Idt there’s ever been anything for standard/etc though

[twilit canyon]

nope

no evidence for it whatsoever

[tardy echo]

But ig because of hell queue people like to think it’s possible otherwise

[golden plover]

I was joking lol, just had some bad matchups the second I swapped decks

The only secret thing arena does is the Bo1 land smoothing shit

Although... CoD does actually do that with cosmetics, not ranks

If you've got more cosmetics in call of duty you're more likely to be paired down so you look stronger and dominate. Making you feel like a better player and making the people you kill think you're better and they need to buy more cosmetics

It's possible, but we'd definitely know if they were doing that kinda thing

[copper pecan]

drafted some avatar and went 5-3

[[merchant of many hats]] put in so much work

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https://scryfall.com/card/tla/110/merchant-of-many-hats

Merchant of Many Hats <:mana1:292901508373282827><:manab:292901508872273920>

Creature — Human Peasant Ally
: Return this card from your graveyard to your hand.
Also known as Dock the ferryman, Xu the fishmonger, and Bushi the river cleaner, depending on what job needed to be done in Jang Hui village.
2/2

[copper pecan]

it's way better than it looks

[lusty trench]

Good blocker

[twilit canyon]

2/2 and untapped puts it so far above rate to [[reassembling skeleton]]

[lost widget]

https://scryfall.com/card/tdc/195/reassembling-skeleton

Reassembling Skeleton <:mana1:292901508373282827><:manab:292901508872273920>

Creature — Skeleton Warrior
: Return this card from your graveyard to the battlefield tapped.
"If none of the bones are original, is it even the same skele—aaagh!" —Mort the Philosopher, last words
1/1

[twilit canyon]

going to hand is just so useful for this set

[copper pecan]

i also got both day of the black sun and rise of sozin which was pretty great

also i just realized i don't think i saw even a single person airbend throughout the entire run

[stark skiff]

theres so few things that do it lol

[trail anvil]

well there is only one Airbender for most of the show lul

[stark skiff]

wow spoilers plz

[torn idol]

When did mtg arena go on mobile

Has it been there for years amd ive just not had a decent enough phone lmao

[twilit canyon]

its been there for quite a while now

[glad peak]

Long long ago

[steady onyx]

aristocrats u mean?

with like seph

or is there a new deck

[atomic harness]

Magebane = goat

[gritty nest]

Who would have known drawing 40 cards was busted

[twilit canyon]

did you ask a mod prior to sharing?

[hard orchid]

dang. no. im too tired. failed my reading comprehension check.

should i... dm one at random or is there a channel i should ask in?

[twilit canyon]

usually, we use solemn scolding fot this, but it seems to be down. in any case tho, i'll just give you an answer now. i dont think we ever really allow promoting alternate servers, let alone for a non-ygo card game, even if a lot of us play multiple. so try another server for that.

[hard orchid]

fair enough

[stark skiff]

@atomic harness gimme your Avatar energy

[stark skiff]

Cute lil guy

[copper pecan]

decided to build hei bai instead of go-shintai

[sudden lava]

which one?

[copper pecan]

the green one

[[hei bai, forest guardian]]

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https://scryfall.com/card/tle/139/hei-bai-forest-guardian

Hei Bai, Forest Guardian <:mana3:292901508771610624><:manag:292901508654301185>

Legendary Creature — Bear Spirit
When Hei Bai enters, reveal cards from the top of your library until you reveal a Shrine card. You may put that card onto the battlefield. Then shuffle.
, : For each legendary enchantment you control, create a 1/1 colorless Spirit creature token with "This token can't block or be blocked by non-Spirit creatures."
4/4

[sudden lava]

ah the wubrg one, ok

[atomic harness]

[subtle sierra]

hmm i never got that, doesn't airbend say that you can actually cast it for the card's normal cost, or does it just say that the only way to cast it is for 2 instead?

the wording is confusing to me, but it seems to be the latter when i was always interpreting it as the former

never actually came up for me until i airbent a seam rip lol

[sudden lava]

Only can be 2

While it’s exiled, its owner may cast it for {2} rather than its mana cost.

(Note you can still pay additional costs for cards with spree, kicker, etc)

[steady onyx]

@twilit canyon curious on your thoughs of badgermole in standard after like a eeek?

[twilit canyon]

ur asking someone who has played exactly 3 standard games

[steady onyx]

oh ok

sorry

[twilit canyon]

none of which have seen badgermole

[steady onyx]

fuck

[twilit canyon]

looking through notes...

card's good

[steady onyx]

i dont wanna buy badgermole 😭

[twilit canyon]

some notes from teammates indicate the card will see meta play but temper expectations it does die to a stiff breeze and bouncing the lands is a massive tempo nuke

[steady onyx]

yeah i get that

@sleek ferry https://www.mtggoldfish.com/deck/7470203#paper
thoughts on a list more like this without the momos and appas ands age

and sage

[twilit canyon]

no appa is good

appa is not good

no momos is fine too bc this list doesnt has too many beneficiaries overall

7 cards that care is not good for momo herr

[steady onyx]

but i think in theory there could be a list with momo?

[twilit canyon]

sure, with more flyers like kirin

[steady onyx]

if u for example ran like sage n kirin

[twilit canyon]

but idt u need it

[sleek ferry]

There’s a deck where Appa is good, but it’s not Azorius

[subtle sierra]

it's bant

also the mirror hurts your brain

i only won cause they had 1 interrupter while i had 2

so i had tempo

also airbending lesson is a lot better than i gave it credit

the draw on it is juicy and the utility is nuts

[subtle sierra]

Just played vs the iroh deck

It's even worse than i thought

We just both did essentially nothing until 8 mana, then they artist's talent into level up, i airbend it out and flash my stuff in for a combo

It's sooooo bad

[sleek ferry]

As the #1 hater of 3 cmc Kaito, this card actually goes insanely hard in tempo vs control

[subtle sierra]

[[kaito cunning infiltrator]]

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https://scryfall.com/card/fdn/44/kaito-cunning-infiltrator

Kaito, Cunning Infiltrator <:mana1:292901508373282827><:manau:292901508754702338><:manau:292901508754702338>

Legendary Planeswalker — Kaito
Whenever a creature you control deals combat damage to a player, put a loyalty counter on Kaito.
+1: Up to one target creature you control can't be blocked this turn. Draw a card, then discard a card.
−2: Create a 2/1 blue Ninja creature token.
−9: You get an emblem with "Whenever a player casts a spell, you create a 2/1 blue Ninja creature token."
Loyalty: 3

[subtle sierra]

eh he's like

fine

[sleek ferry]

It’s just extremely easy to ulti him

[subtle sierra]

oh i missed the first line

that's a bit better

the thing is that they should have drawn get lost by then or they would have lost anyway

[sleek ferry]

Having to get lost kaito under high noon with Aang out means they lost anyways tbf

[subtle sierra]

that's a lot of specific cards for you to draw

[atomic harness]

@twilit canyon https://youtu.be/uZZEwz7c5FM?si=yo-WwS3-gAD1tz0j

Game one was kinda sad

[subtle sierra]

aangry

[atomic harness]

Los Angeles

[twilit canyon]

card is so strong in tempo

[golden plover]

https://mtgdecks.net/Standard/gruul-aggro-decklist-by-masahide-ishikawa-2708163

Won the Japanese 360 person tournament

Seems interesting in that it can pivot it's aggro plan

Might as well try it out during the 3 months we'll have badgermole

[subtle sierra]

any other lists?

[golden plover]

2nd place was on Dimir Bounce

https://mtgdecks.net/Standard/dimir-bounce-decklist-by-horiuchi-makoto-2708164

3rd was the tempo deck

https://mtgdecks.net/Standard/azorius-tempo-decklist-by-taichi-akiyama-2708165

4th was Simic Aggro (yawn)

https://mtgdecks.net/Standard/simic-aggro-decklist-by-masahide-moriyama-2708166

And the rest of top 8 were variations of simic aggro or bant combo

[subtle sierra]

ooh bant

i opened one and it's dork build

with the other aang

[golden plover]

Definitely is looking like Simic Aggro is the deck to beat

And I 100% don't think badgercub is long for this world

We'll know once shit starts mainboarding pyroclasm effects, but he looks like he's gonna be a problem. I guess we'll see from worlds

[sleek ferry]

Oh that’s why I’ve been facing that exact dimir bounce list. That deck is too fragile imo. It’s a good early meta call, but once people know you’re on it, it’s stupid easy to beat

[golden plover]

Also notably not a single ally list in the top 32

Deck isn't real

[sleek ferry]

Simic can’t ever beat you if you resolve wrath

[golden plover]

They'll just counter your wrath

Or have you dead before

You need to t2 pyroclasm or lose

Don't really think that's a healthy spot for it since it's another coin flip deck like Leyline Red

[sleek ferry]

Counter my wrath with the 0 counter spells the deck mains?

[golden plover]

They'll board in repulsive mutations

[glad peak]

Wrath’s not real

[golden plover]

I don't think anything is gonna main wrath rn, and if they do, they can main mutations

[sleek ferry]

Counter my wrath by not playing ouroboid on curve? All the situations you’re naming are losing plays by them

On the play, you have every opportunity possible to boardwipe them, whether that’s judgment, wrath, or whatever. On the draw, you shift your focus to get lost, no more lies, etc. like I said, ouroboid being a win con for these decks is the most fragile thing possible

[golden plover]

They can easily slow down a turn and still destroy you. They've got a million mana

There's absolutely answers, but I feel like the deck can just move too fast

[sleek ferry]

@twilit canyon Idk if you consider this a hot take or not, but after a bunch of testing, I actually think [[Momo, Playful Pet]] is currently a better tempo piece than [[Momo, friendly flier]]

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https://scryfall.com/card/tla/30/momo-playful-pet

Momo, Playful Pet <:manaw:1007102126813610074>

Legendary Creature — Lemur Bat Ally
Flying, vigilance
When Momo leaves the battlefield, choose one —
• Create a Food token. (It's an artifact with ", , Sacrifice this token: You gain 3 life.")
• Put a +1/+1 counter on target creature you control.
• Scry 2.
1/1

https://scryfall.com/card/tla/29/momo-friendly-flier

Momo, Friendly Flier <:manaw:1007102126813610074>

Legendary Creature — Lemur Bat Ally
Flying
The first non-Lemur creature spell with flying you cast during each of your turns costs less to cast.
Whenever another creature you control with flying enters, Momo gets +1/+1 until end of turn.
1/1

[twilit canyon]

that is a hot take

[sleek ferry]

I just think the play pattern of the deck maximizes playful pet much more, since outside of sage, you're usually holding, and playful pet synergizes more with Kirin

[steady onyx]

interesting

[steady onyx]

^^

[sleek ferry]

What in the holy hell is magic4ever lol

[tardy echo]

Duelist question mark

Anyways dimir still really fucking good nobody actually surprised more at 11

[steady onyx]

idk man someone from other server sent to me

[steady onyx]

oculus converson is funny

[tardy echo]

Its oculus shrug

Deck has infinite robbery potential

[steady onyx]

it just sacks?

it feels shit without profits

lol

like idk

maybe im wrong

and thats ok

[tardy echo]

You are

[steady onyx]

but the only thing that scared me in that deck when ive played against it is the oculus becomming a 20/20 from profits

[tardy echo]

I think that’s just bad risk assessment

[steady onyx]

def could be

[tardy echo]

Even without profts payoff oculus is still a very good aggro shell

[steady onyx]

sure

i get that

have u made any progress with ramp btw

[tardy echo]

I’ve been busy having a job

[steady onyx]

oh

fair enough

i just got on thanksgiving break

[tardy echo]

Mono green is probably actually the best one though

Or if u play u just very small splash for wan shi tong

[steady onyx]

yeah

@sleek ferry do u try this card? [[air nomads legacy]]

[lost widget]

https://scryfall.com/card/tla/206/air-nomad-legacy

Air Nomad Legacy <:manaw:1007102126813610074><:manau:292901508754702338>

Enchantment
When this enchantment enters, create a Clue token. (It's an artifact with ", Sacrifice this token: Draw a card.")
Creatures you control with flying get +1/+1.
Ancient stories of flying monks inspired generations of gliders to come.

[steady onyx]

i saw it in the mtgoldfish list and was curisou

[sleek ferry]

I wouldn’t. The Orzhov one of these is solid though

[[tolls of war]]

[lost widget]

https://scryfall.com/card/tla/245/tolls-of-war

Tolls of War <:manaw:1007102126813610074><:manab:292901508872273920>

Enchantment
When this enchantment enters, create a Clue token. (It's an artifact with ", Sacrifice this token: Draw a card.")
Whenever you sacrifice a permanent during your turn, create a 1/1 white Ally creature token. This ability triggers only once each turn.

[steady onyx]

also this list isnt good right

https://www.mtggoldfish.com/deck/7471301#paper

this looks sick as shit lol

[tardy echo]

It’s just another flavor of stormsplitter combo

[steady onyx]

wait whats the combo

i dont see stormsplitter

[glad peak]

Valley floodcaller untapping itself and tapping for mana

The good old jeskai ascendancy combo

[fallow citrus]

you can tell this is an amulet video because it's almost an hour long
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cBmz2l_hAFU

[copper pecan]

new convention promo

scrimblos together strong

[glad peak]

Hes thinking about eating that scrimblo

[golden plover]

This has gotta be the most off model Fblthp has ever looked. Why's he fully humanoid and taller than Loot now?

[copper pecan]

i'm pretty sure he's just clinging to fblthp's shoulder and isn't humanoid
EDIT: i'm stupid and thought you were talking about loot for some reason

[fallow citrus]

also it's very perspective based

plus if we're being super pedantic

this is the fblthp model they had at magiccon amsterdam

which makes that art look pretty on model

[golden plover]

He's definitely changed model a lot

He used to be much smaller and didn't have a neck

Even his arena model doesn't give him the neck

[copper pecan]

fblthp gets more goblinesque every day

[golden plover]

Yeah, it's a weird change

[copper pecan]

arena fblthp is definitely a scrunkly oomfie

[golden plover]

True. I like him

[tardy echo]

That’s my point

Different cards same idea

[steady onyx]

oh like if u hvae the vitality

[tardy echo]

Some people even play temur and then it’s literally interchangeable

[steady onyx]

u mean

I SEE

no no i get what u mean

im just stupid

lol

[tardy echo]

I know

[steady onyx]

oh shutup

[glad peak]

So am I

[past socket]

He’s going goblin mode! Everyone into the bunker!

[glad peak]

https://tenor.com/view/hornet-silksong-stick-bugged-stick-bugged-gif-5833534606468811764

[steady onyx]

I WANNA PLAY AMULET TITAN IN MODERN

😭

ITS LIKE COCAINE BEAR!!!

can u play lumra in titan?

or is analyst just better

[glad peak]

You’d have to play analyst

Since shifting woodlands

You can technically play lumra + some way to sac all your lands but it gets awkward and it’s harder to loop lumra into your hand

[steady onyx]

oh yeah

i get that

this deck is mega expensive right

and like modern is a non proxy format right

;sob

wait deos the deck not just run

the desert to kill

im watching this video and it seems to be overcomplicating

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cBmz2l_hAFU

like using mirrorpool to get haste land

to i assume swing with titan

do we not just get [[sunscorched desert]]

[lost widget]

https://scryfall.com/card/akh/249/sunscorched-desert

Sunscorched Desert

Land — Desert
When this land enters, it deals 1 damage to target player or planeswalker.
: Add .
The only relief in sight is a mirage.

[steady onyx]

because this is basically lumra cedh deck

jsut looping ur lands

with lotus field

and an untapper

and analyst/ lumra

maybe im missing something tho

ur already running [[hanweir battlements]] to give primeval titan haste

[lost widget]

https://scryfall.com/card/inr/279/hanweir-battlements

Hanweir Battlements

Land
: Add .
, : Target creature gains haste until end of turn.
, : If you both own and control this land and a creature named Hanweir Garrison, exile them, then meld them into Hanweir, the Writhing Township.

[steady onyx]

why not just replace withlike desert

ig hanweir is good outside just the combo

to get 4 lands in a turn

;shrug

[glad peak]

nah, lumra is basically a titan deck

[steady onyx]

well i learned about lumra first

:p

but im still confused why we dont jsut run sunsschorched

[glad peak]

you want battlements so you can attack with titan the turn it comes down, even if you're not going for a win

[steady onyx]

i gues

is that that important

yeah

i guess so

[glad peak]

that's a huge important piece of the deck

you want to get more tutors if possible

deck's so tight they stopped playing some utility lands at this point

even the most famous titan combo isn't played because there's too many bricks

[fallow citrus]

I think getting 4 lands in one turn in my landfall ramp strategy is good

[glad peak]

Or putting into play my floodgate or value piece or card that gets boseiju to hand onto the field

Or heck, just winning sometimes

[zinc shard]

came back from being mana screwed 2 games in a row

[fallow citrus]

https://x.com/Mengu09/status/1993229532090761310?t=vfC3ULF_kjsuh5DNvwsHuA&s=19

Andrea Mengucci (@Mengu09)

Badgermole Cub goes 10-0 and wins Legacy Challenge! I may just have found my deck for Eternal Weekend! Let’s stream!
Live @ https://t.co/86Ikczox37

X · Nov 25, 2025, 8:05 AM

[trail anvil]

wight + cub 👀

[subtle sierra]

love it when you misclick on opponent's bandit's talent and then want to die

good ui

why the fuck can't you undo that

[glad peak]

[[wight of the reliquary]]

[lost widget]

https://scryfall.com/card/mh3/207/wight-of-the-reliquary

Wight of the Reliquary <:manab:292901508872273920><:manag:292901508654301185>

Creature — Zombie Knight
Vigilance
This creature gets +1/+1 for each creature card in your graveyard.
, Sacrifice another creature: Search your library for a land card, put it onto the battlefield tapped, then shuffle.
Her new demonic overlords prized her knowledge of Bant's landscape.
2/2

[glad peak]

Oh damn

[trail anvil]

like as a target for get lost or something?

[subtle sierra]

no

if you accidentally click decline

you discard 2

there is no option

i chose the option to concede cause fuck that

[trail anvil]

ah

[atomic harness]

[steady onyx]

god this looks sick

[wary night]

Is cloud still played in modern? Or was everyone busy w slivers and star track.. and spider men

[twilit canyon]

slivers??

[wary night]

I Iowkey have no idea if it's good or not right now

[wary night]

Dawg if I'm wrong its cause I know nothing about meta decks rn

Or ever

[twilit canyon]

evidently

[wary night]

[twilit canyon]

cloud's always been a decent choice in terms of hammer time but hammer isnt meta rn

[wary night]

Does it need hammer time or can I replace it for something that's better for the meta

I thought hammer time was a card mb😭

[twilit canyon]

[[colossal hammer]]

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https://scryfall.com/card/afc/202/colossus-hammer

Colossus Hammer <:mana1:292901508373282827>

Artifact — Equipment
Equipped creature gets +10/+10 and loses flying.
Equip (: Attach to target creature you control. Equip only as a sorcery.)
"There's only one way to be sure it's really dead."

[twilit canyon]

[[sigarda's aid]] + [[puresteel paladin]]

[lost widget]

https://scryfall.com/card/cmr/384/sigardas-aid

Sigarda's Aid <:manaw:1007102126813610074>

Enchantment
You may cast Aura and Equipment spells as though they had flash.
Whenever an Equipment you control enters, you may attach it to target creature you control.
The Order of Saint Traft found new strength with Sigarda's support.

https://scryfall.com/card/cmm/51/puresteel-paladin

Puresteel Paladin <:manaw:1007102126813610074><:manaw:1007102126813610074>

Creature — Human Knight
Whenever an Equipment you control enters, you may draw a card.
Metalcraft — Equipment you control have equip as long as you control three or more artifacts.
2/2

[wary night]

I'm boutta do a whole lot of smashing

Not really sure what your smashing atm, maybe spider men or avatars

[wary night]

Ts is awesome, its helped me out in games a ton

[fallow citrus]

it's bad but you can now play phelia + meteor sword in hammer time if you like the idea of blinking wasteland

[atomic harness]

phelia pog

[steady onyx]

is the badgermole deck thing mengucci played real in legacy

or just player diff

[fallow citrus]

it's a real deck it's just not like a top deck

although it might be getting more real

cradle control's best result in a while only happened when badgermole got printed

if goldfish is to be believed

[atomic harness]

Sigh little aeri
How come modern feels slower than standard (this is a good thing)

Every mengu game is like a 10 turn grindfest with meaningful
resource attrition war

arena is like t3 combo u ded

[fallow citrus]

because standard doesn't have good enough answers to the cards they're printing

[atomic harness]

Everyone say thank you force of negation

[fallow citrus]

there's no wrath of the skies or fon or pending or solitude or march or phlage or thraben charm

[atomic harness]

Fatal push obm...

[glad peak]

I don’t recall fon being played as much in Modern anymore

[atomic harness]

thoughtseize 👁️

[glad peak]

But yep the rest are great

[fallow citrus]

standard has no more lies, modern just has counterspell like

there's a gulf of card quality when it comes to answers in both formats

[atomic harness]

yeah I feel like if something sticks in standard you are basically dead

icant

[glad peak]

Barely anyone’s on counterspell in modern anymore

[fallow citrus]

I know but the point still stands

[atomic harness]

Hush now little mudkip

[fallow citrus]

the cards are just better so you can actually answer things

[glad peak]

I miss when those cards were played

Good times

[fallow citrus]

best removal in standard is either bitter triumph or get lost

like 1 for 1 removal anyway

aside from amulet modern actually looks real nice right now

[atomic harness]

Yawgmoth is back babyyy

(he's okay)

[fallow citrus]

if I played modern I think I'd just be the most boring person to live and play thrull zoo

I'd play affinity if mopals weren't like 100+ each

[atomic harness]

Affinity hnngh

[glad peak]

Speaking of boring

[golden plover]

Honestly? We should get counterspell in standard at this point

If every other set is gonna come with a "remove or die" 2-4 drop, we need better removal

Honestly, give me fatal push

[atomic harness]

I miss cut down

[golden plover]

Same

Cut down would kill Ouroboroid

So that's cool

[vivid hatch]

bought some valgavoth bling

[steady onyx]

standard feels weird :(

but i like the format

[steady onyx]

I want snuff out in stnadad!

I like snuff out

god pauper is such a based format

[tardy echo]

Is this lorwyn bonus sheet or something

Oh it’s a spotlight

Lorwyn is the next set right

Just making sure

[steady onyx]

yes!

[copper pecan]

yeah lorwyn is the next one

[tardy echo]

Thank the lord

I need an in universe set bad

Does it drop January?

[steady onyx]

jan 16th?

im going to prerelease the 16th and 17th

[steady onyx]

holy peak

[sudden lava]

Decided I want to get Sultai Arisen instead of Mardu Surge for my next precon.
Also the Wan Shi Tong Command Tower is cool

[trail anvil]

sultai precon is so nice cause it really embodies sultai as a grindy color wedge

one of my favorite memories with the deck is playing vs a control deck, them wiping the board 3 times and coming out with a strong board after the fact each time

[steady onyx]

bruh

i fucking hate mtga

why do i ned 4 bajillion rares for any deck I wanna make

[trail anvil]

time to play brawl, Singleton format

there are a number of budget standard decks though

[steady onyx]

yeah

i get that

[steady onyx]

i do wanna try brawl

cause i got a couple cool older cards

from the vintage cube pacsk

but it seems hard to lke

start building a brawl deck

since it can go so many ways

[trail anvil]

try standard brawl

and just build something that builds itself

[steady onyx]

but the fun is in historic brawl :(

[trail anvil]

then better save up

or build something like yawgmoth which has a mythic in the command zone the runs a million common and uncommon fodder cards

[steady onyx]

i found smt that only need 1 rare 1 uncommon :)

[steady onyx]

@twilit canyon legit question that im curious about, worlds is i like w eek or two or smt, and there is standard... will the worlds "meta" be a good represenation of what standard will look like for next while or is it still early so it wont represent standard in futur

that prob made no sense

idk how to ask my question

[twilit canyon]

yes and no

its still early

world's testing will rep what the best players think will beat the other best players

[atomic harness]

I'm gonna name my future kid dockside

[tardy echo]

Mine is gonna be hullbreacher

[twilit canyon]

thalia

[atomic harness]

Ledger Shredder

[steady onyx]

kid?

[glad peak]

My kid will be named yargle, in reference to where he will be coming from

Actually though, after someone pointed out how yargle looks I haven’t been able to unsee it

[past socket]

yargle and rargle

fargle bargle

[subtle sierra]

Sigh you guys want me to call my kid aang

[wary night]

I like the sound of this

[steady onyx]

alright

does arena have the cardpool for pauper

i know we dont have the format

but could i like build deck and practice against friend

[trail anvil]

most definitely not lmao

pauper is an enormous format my dude

[steady onyx]

darnit

wtf is on arena then

i just dont understand

[fallow citrus]

wdym

[trail anvil]

pioneer

timeless

historic

[steady onyx]

but like

whats the card pool

is it like master duel

wehre there like not every printed card

[trail anvil]

master duel has a much larger percentage of the card pool than mtga

[twilit canyon]

it is not every card printed. mtg's card pool dwarfs yugiohs

iirc mtga has some 19k odd cards?

out of 31k

[trail anvil]

damn that many? that's pretty solid all things considered

[steady onyx]

darn

well ok

god

anyone here ever wanna remote pauper or standard or smt

[twilit canyon]

they def sped up a lot recently

[steady onyx]

is there like a desire to get the entire pool or nah

[twilit canyon]

probably not a few redundant pieces tho the sanctity of full formats is something some ppl care for so eventually

[steady onyx]

like have they been forthcoming with what they want from mtga

i rmb they dont wanna overshadow mtgo in like pauper n stuff right

and legacy?

or maybe im just saying words

[trail anvil]

these ICR rewards are nuts

I wanted both of these but didn't want to spend wildcards on them

[steady onyx]

icr?

[trail anvil]

individual card rewards

[steady onyx]

oh

god

even updating mono red wil take most of my wildcards

which is aggrivating

is it worth to use wildcards to make leyline aggro to grind

like im seeing gruul as most popular

but could I just run mono red to not craft all the gruul duals?

[sleek ferry]

I think I’ve settled on a nice deck finally for tempo

Average cmc of 2.1? Yes please

Btw @subtle sierra are you on 3 steps ahead?

[subtle sierra]

I'm not on tempo

Combo doesn't want it

[subtle sierra]

Hmm i will be borrowing cards for tempo tomorrow, could you share your list? @sleek ferry

[stark skiff]

https://magic.wizards.com/en/news/announcements/back-to-the-drawing-board-with-secret-lair-x-monster-hunter

[subtle sierra]

I need ideas for the limited stuff I'll have

[sleek ferry]

I’ll DM it over to you, I settled on more removal than the average list

[subtle sierra]

Ye sure

[lusty trench]

Insert cat pointing and laughing meme here

Do it for the avatar one now too

[copper pecan]

wait what were people upset about?

the article doesn't really specify

[lusty trench]

Cards included were

Bad

Stinky poopoo

[copper pecan]

ah i see

[lusty trench]

Best card was grand abolisher?

[stark skiff]

Card selection was bad and the art didnt really match anything

[golden plover]

They've never pulled an SL before. That's crazy

[lusty trench]

Do it for the avatar one nexts

Some of them are alright tbf

Some of them though are like

[sleek ferry]

The issue was that the art made 0 sense

[lusty trench]

Im paying 40 great british pounds for like

[sleek ferry]

For the cards

[lusty trench]

Chain of vapor

[sleek ferry]

Idt it was the sl being bad since we’ve had worse sl’s not be pulled

I think the fact that we got art that made no sense for the accompanying cards was the final nail in the coffin

Like wtf was that sol ring lol

[twilit canyon]

valstrax is cool but

yeah

[lusty trench]

Most of them do fit the art

The ones that dont stick out a lot though

[twilit canyon]

monster hunter is a bigger ip with a more rabid fanbase than any other lair besides maybe sonic? if mh fans are upset, u will know.

[lusty trench]

Like wtf is this

[sleek ferry]

Sonic fans ate good with their SL too

[lusty trench]

I wouldve liked less cards on equipment and more on characters but

Not bad

Im just upset theres no metal sonic

[stark skiff]

I mean they came off a string of bangers with Playstation, Sonic, Marvel, Sonic, etc.

and this one just seems like no thought was put in it

[lusty trench]

Personally as i said i do think a lot of them, the majority even, are on theme

Just the ones that arent stick out a lot

[sleek ferry]

Monster Hunter should have honestly been part of the PlayStation SL

If for no other reason that it would have gotten unique cards

[copper pecan]

iirc that was only for ips that sony owns

[lusty trench]

Id say thats why we didnt get a bloodborne one but thatd also require from soft to acknowledge bloodborne

[twilit canyon]

bloodborne secret lair before remake would cause from soft fans to storm sony worse than jan 6

[lusty trench]

That would require from soft fans to touch grass

[twilit canyon]

they'd do so for bloodborne content

[tardy echo]

What happened to dinosaur bloodborne

Have we gotten any info on that

[twilit canyon]

idts

[sudden lava]

Ok so since they going back to the drawing board for the new ones. Still a chance to make them transform with a craft like mechanic

[steady onyx]

wow the favoritisim

[glad peak]

wow the favoritism

[steady onyx]

[past socket]

Love that little feller

[sleek ferry]

I’m not competing vs Solar, he’s EU

The amount of people that scoop to high noon makes me blush

[steady onyx]

??

and your competing against me?

[sleek ferry]

I’m competing vs all NA players yes

[steady onyx]

[sleek ferry]

https://youtu.be/TruZW-VUywE?si=FyJ24DmWvTUYv1iO

[steady onyx]

a fun watch

i just watched this actually

imma be so fr before this i didnt know what a pro tour was and how it like worked

i just assumed it was similar to a ycs or like nats

but that seems crazy

2 days of draft into standard

is the magic worlds similar then?

draft into standard?

[copper pecan]

sometimes it's other formats

[steady onyx]

what decides the format it would be

[copper pecan]

idk

[steady onyx]

oh ok

[fast tide]

I discovered while I can't order from tcgplayer I can order from cardkingdom I think

... And I want to build Gary the Snail commander, fuck

[past socket]

CardKingdom is the best bet for getting cards from overseas, yeah

Takes a bit on shipping but haven’t been disappointed yet

MTGMate does help but they aren’t gonna have everything

[steady onyx]

im sleeping with one eye open tonight

[sudden lava]

oh nooooooo

Ducky is becoming a Toxrill player

(Make sure to run the Gary Lands)

[zinc shard]

https://wpn.wizards.com/en/news/askwpn-and-lorwyn-eclipsed-updates-for-the-wpn?fbclid=IwVERDUAOUh6BleHRuA2FlbQIxMQBzcnRjBmFwcF9pZAo2NjI4NTY4Mzc5AAEe667PToNW5X5p6ubmo5N8W8-IAH15179F05xQjh-9q0dVbkDkxWM_jhTxqZ0_aem_Pvhfgyvdo5NcWJtM8ockdQ

Lorwyn Eclipsed will be the final set with a Buy a Box promo

[golden plover]

They should print Leyline of Night of Souls Betrayal

[wary night]

SAME😭😭

[wary night]

Is pirates of the Caribbean in magic?

[copper pecan]

no

[zinc shard]

Not yet

[golden plover]

Fuck it, I'm back on Reanimator since standard matches end on 4 as is

Most people aren't playing much graveyard hate RN as is

[copper pecan]

new ub: the bible

[hidden ermine]

Universes Bibleyond

[wary night]

Aw man

[wary night]

Wtf is loot doing here 😭 I'm lost

[copper pecan]

loot was in the bible

[past socket]

The return of Bible Battles

[fast tide]

Sleeves and deckbox are here

Time to sleeve my precon

And play it raw before I shove in upgrades

[sudden lava]

what sleeves you get?

(and precon)

[fast tide]

And just dragon shield matte black

I already got upgrades planned but I wanna play it raw for a while

[sudden lava]

ooh good pick, going Kilo for the commander?

[fast tide]

Gonna try both and see how i like the feel of each! :D

[wary night]

Holy Loot

[glad peak]

What do you mean secretly

[subtle sierra]

Lessons don't have a home yet

Only boomerang is used and you don't play the full engine there

[glad peak]

Sure but the ur lessons deck is all over online rn and that’s pretty much the most annoying card they have in the deck

Deck’s fine, not great

But it has been everywhere

[subtle sierra]

I mean true, it's a budget wet dream

[copper pecan]

are people not using [[iroh's demonstration]]? it seems like a pretty good card to me

[lost widget]

https://scryfall.com/card/tla/141/irohs-demonstration

Iroh's Demonstration <:mana1:292901508373282827><:manar:292901508796645397>

Sorcery — Lesson
Choose one —
• Iroh's Demonstration deals 1 damage to each creature your opponents control.
• Iroh's Demonstration deals 4 damage to target creature.
"Did I ever tell you how I got the nickname 'The Dragon of the West?'"

[subtle sierra]

It's ok

Combustion is better for removal and i think the instant that deals 4 and exiles is in foundations

Oh sorcery maybe

The thing is this isn't 2 damage which is an important threshold rn

[[fire magic]] better for that use case

[lost widget]

https://scryfall.com/card/fin/136/fire-magic

Fire Magic <:manar:292901508796645397>

Instant
Tiered (Choose one additional cost.)
• Fire — — Fire Magic deals 1 damage to each creature.
• Fira — — Fire Magic deals 2 damage to each creature.
• Firaga — — Fire Magic deals 3 damage to each creature.

[subtle sierra]

And like, there isn't a use case where you might need to play both modes to deal with stuff

Oh [[scorching dragonfire]] is 3 but instant i misremembered

[lost widget]

https://scryfall.com/card/fdn/545/scorching-dragonfire

Scorching Dragonfire <:mana1:292901508373282827><:manar:292901508796645397>

Instant
Scorching Dragonfire deals 3 damage to target creature or planeswalker. If that creature or planeswalker would die this turn, exile it instead.
As the blaze raced toward her, Syr Ameril closed her eyes and pictured Castle Ardenvale so her last thoughts would be of home.

[subtle sierra]

Regardless, the only card rn where the threshold of 4 is relevant is ouroboroid, and since iroh is sorc speed it's lol

You might kill it but the damage is likely done

[zinc shard]

Someone talk me out of brewing 5 [[Gut, True Shot Zealot]] decks (1 for each color)

[lost widget]

https://scryfall.com/card/clb/180/gut-true-soul-zealot

Gut, True Soul Zealot <:mana2:292901509060886528><:manar:292901508796645397>

Legendary Creature — Goblin Shaman
Whenever you attack, you may sacrifice another creature or an artifact. If you do, create a 4/1 black Skeleton creature token with menace that's tapped and attacking. (It can't be blocked except by two or more creatures.)
Choose a Background (You can have a Background as a second commander.)
2/2

[zinc shard]

(or give me a better commander that I can make with all 5 colors)

[glad peak]

What’re the backgrounds you’d do for each color?

(Obviously inspiring leader for white)

• do you like always being the target because you come out fast but have no firepower to actually win on time?

[sudden lava]

Got some stuff at locals for a couple of my decks, and a pack of gold sleeves for a new deck.
First time I've used a battle [[invasion of phyrexia]], got this for Katara WaterTribe

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https://scryfall.com/card/mom/239/invasion-of-new-phyrexia-teferi-akosa-of-zhalfir

Invasion of New Phyrexia <:manax:292901509082120202><:manaw:1007102126813610074><:manau:292901508754702338>

Battle — Siege
(As a Siege enters, choose an opponent to protect it. You and others can attack it. When it's defeated, exile it, then cast it transformed.)
When this Siege enters, create X 2/2 white and blue Knight creature tokens with vigilance.
Defense: 6

Teferi Akosa of Zhalfir
Legendary Planeswalker — Teferi
+1: Draw two cards. Then discard two cards unless you discard a creature card.
−2: You get an emblem with "Knights you control get +1/+0 and have ward ."
−3: Tap any number of untapped creatures you control. When you do, shuffle target nonland permanent an opponent controls with mana value X or less into its owner's library, where X is the number of creatures tapped this way.
Loyalty: 4

[sudden lava]

Also full art of the simic tarkir seige and a foil etched Kudo

[sudden lava]

btw speaking of Kudos, how is he as a commander?

[glad peak]

not great since he's just a basic +1/+1 counters commander but slightly more unique because of the static 2/2

[sudden lava]

Wouldn't static +1/+1 to board be better then counters because then all your bears got bigger butts then the average creature on the enemies boards?

Well that or the +2/+2 from [[elesh norn grand cenobite]]

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https://scryfall.com/card/ima/18/elesh-norn-grand-cenobite

Elesh Norn, Grand Cenobite <:mana5:292901508796645386><:manaw:1007102126813610074><:manaw:1007102126813610074>

Legendary Creature — Phyrexian Praetor
Vigilance
Other creatures you control get +2/+2.
Creatures your opponents control get -2/-2.
"The Gitaxians whisper among themselves of other worlds. If they exist, we must bring Phyrexia's magnificence to them."
4/7

[glad peak]

he buffs 0/0 and 1/1 tokens fairly cheaply but static increases are usually more expensive compared to counters

you're going to play norn regardless because that means no more creatures from your opponents

[sudden lava]

Well yeah Elesh Norn is automatically in for sure

[steady onyx]

aww im sad

i was gonna go to lgs back home and run standard

but it didnt fire

:(

[wary night]

What cloud is this, I cant find the set hes from?

[lusty trench]

Its from the chocobo bundle

A possible promo you can get

[zinc shard]

Haven't gotten that far yet, still picking out the commander. But yes

[sudden lava]

For Gruul go master chef

so that her skeletons are 5/2s

and fill the rest of the deck with your favorite gruul token makers and payoffs

[zinc shard]

Here's what im thinking so far

[sudden lava]

The one for Rakdos makes sense yeah

You could also do cultist of the absolute and fill the rakdos deck with goblins

[stark skiff]

https://archidekt.com/decks/17672945/bumi_unleashed

Any recs for this bumi earthbend deck? Its what I got so far but probably missing stuff

[glad peak]

Gaea’s cradle is crazy with earthbend

[sudden lava]

goblin anarchomancer
The fire crystal

is Siesmic tutelage already in?

[glad peak]

How commander players sound like when talking about an already good card

[sudden lava]

idk if I mentioned it here but a while back I went to locals without any decks on me, expecting nobody to show up because it was very rainy outside. Still got pulled into a game, but they had me borrow their decks. Love my usual pod for that

(well multiple games but yeah)

[stark skiff]

was debating this one

[trail anvil]

man it feels so good to have reach in aggro

[tardy echo]

Frantic search is crazy with ancient tomb

[atomic harness]

Thank you son

I am taking 4 now... sigh

[trail anvil]

scurry oak is crazy with heliod

[atomic harness]

oh why's your life total so big kommers

[trail anvil]

arabella

[atomic harness]

[[abandoned doll]]

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https://scryfall.com/card/dsk/208/arabella-abandoned-doll

Arabella, Abandoned Doll <:manar:292901508796645397><:manaw:1007102126813610074>

Legendary Artifact Creature — Toy
Whenever Arabella attacks, it deals X damage to each opponent and you gain X life, where X is the number of creatures you control with power 2 or less.
Every night, Cori threw the unsettling doll away. Every morning, it was back on the shelf, its eyes following her every move.
1/3

[atomic harness]

Boros doll is crazy

[copper pecan]

it's crazy how bad commons used to be

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/210430323320815626/1444187540000215050/gpt-17-skyrider-trainee.jpg?ex=692bcbf5&is=692a7a75&hm=c4cb10f531a7bd2be183f32b448676b1ab00a8d9171d1e433a44b6f72f308bf3&=&format=webp&width=668&height=930

this was commons in 2006

[trail anvil]

well creatures in general used to be dogwater

but yeah I think they didn't know how powerful they could make draft chaff

[tardy echo]

I mean they didn’t have mythics back then right

So rarity distribution got a little cooked

[atomic harness]

[[masticore]]

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https://scryfall.com/card/vma/275/masticore

Masticore <:mana4:292901508712890379>

Artifact Creature — Masticore
At the beginning of your upkeep, sacrifice this creature unless you discard a card.
: This creature deals 1 damage to target creature.
: Regenerate this creature.
4/4

[atomic harness]

@trail anvil

[vivid hatch]

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1dsvGKo6X5lqLSz0_uRJrYn3PK2UXTj1wWUgMLu767pw/edit?usp=sharing
fun project im working on
making a buylist price for every russian foil worth a benjamin or more
so far, picked 100 cards from rav-avr
all first-printing (global) r/m s, 150+
but ill gradually expand it to include everything

[glad peak]

Frantic search is also crazy with earthbended gaea’s cradle with cub

[tardy echo]

TRUE!

[past socket]

Finally dipping my toes further into 60 card with playing Pauper. mess with mono-red madness since I tend to be a bit of an aggressive player

[steady onyx]

yesyes

pauper is based

and mono red is imo a great deck to learn withj

[glad peak]

Pooper indeed based

You should play mono blue

[steady onyx]

or play my new favorite deck gardens

based as hell deck

[steady onyx]

@twilit canyon this isnt good right? just like a lucky top https://www.mtggoldfish.com/deck/7432904#paper

oh wait

this is just calamity combo

god it seems sick

i kinda wanna try a diff deck in standard

since without badgermole

why play smic

simic

but dik

:9

[tardy echo]

Surprise has been kicking for a little bit

Kind of got consumed by battlecrier which still plays the card sometimes with just a more stable gameplan

[steady onyx]

fair enough

https://www.mtggoldfish.com/archetype/standard-sultai-dragons-woe#paper sultai dragons 👀

wasnt this the deck misty thought was cool

and has the sick card rakshaskas bargain

[sleek ferry]

I vsed this deck, I like it more than a lot of other cope lists

[steady onyx]

why?

also am i crazy or is rakshasks bargain just a worse stock up

[sleek ferry]

It had good coverage

[steady onyx]

like esp in dragons where idt gy matters too much?

unless im just missing something

[sleek ferry]

Rakshak’s bargain is better stock up*

It’s just more narrow

[steady onyx]

wait do u mind explaining

stock up looks 5 adds 2
rakshak looks 4 adds 2
rakshak is sultai
stock up is 2 generic 1 blue

[sleek ferry]

< Instant

[steady onyx]

oh

i didnt uh

ok

yeha that card seems insane

[sleek ferry]

It being 3 colors is also relevant if it was in a cornucopia deck

[steady onyx]

ok

this deck seems cool

i might build on arena

sadly it dosent use any of the cool new avatrar cards

which is sad :(

nvm

the entire deck is rares

unbuildable on arena

i can craft the entire deck except for the lands

i assume not worth

as landbase in 3c is like super super important riht

[subtle sierra]

also mills

[steady onyx]

whats the vibe with crafting on arena

like

all the decks are too many rares

with the whole landbase

do I just like idfk

craft with shitty landbase?

play mono color?

[sleek ferry]

Tbh, spending money on the battle pass I pretty worth in arena, it’s $20 every 50-60 days

That’s 4 cups of coffee

[steady onyx]

i just dont think i play enough

...

[copper pecan]

i'm good enough at limited that i can get the battle pass without paying any actual money

[steady onyx]

i mean ive been doing fine in limited

i just kinda spend the limited gems on more limited

then boguht acessories

maybe im just stupid

i just threw together a deck with all the random red cards I ahve

[sleek ferry]

That’s definitely a red deck

[steady onyx]

its rly bad

i know

:P

its just the leftovers i had from shit

HOLY

they just fucked up

they legend into draw 5

and got nuked by 2 razorkins

LOLLLLL

[sleek ferry]

Orzhov not having to rely on raise the past now makes it pretty solid ngl

[fast tide]

Counter Intelligence was hecka fun to play wow

Darksteel Reactor'd someone using Moxite Refinery to move charge counters around 20/20 experience

[past socket]

Proliferation is really funny

[fast tide]

And I was one damn damage short when I went up against angel/demon deck (oops all flyers)

Their damn commander healed them up to 26 hp

And I had a 15/15 unblockable kappa cannoneer and a 10 damage ping from my lux artillery during the end step I was so close

If I had one more damn red mana I could've one-side boardwiped

If I had one more artifact to play that would've got me the 1 damage aaaaa

Super cool game

I'll try Kilo as commander next time I play

And see how that feels before I start shoving in upgrades I got so many waiting

[sudden lava]

Ducky trying to convince me to get the Counter Intelligence precon ;p

[fast tide]

I got so many meme cards to upgrade can't fucking wait to Millennium Calendar someone for 1000 damage

And got a small sprinkle of poison counter to go with all my proliferate

[sudden lava]

@fast tide sooooo yeah I think you sold me on the counter intelligence precon

especially if I can find a copy of millenium calendar irl

[fast tide]

My spicy upgrades are here

I don't want to think about how much I spent on this it's not hugely expensive but jesus christ

[twilit canyon]

damn u just dont play ranked anymore

[trail anvil]

tbf that was during vivi monored season

idk tho I only really play ranked when there's a deck I like. I'll see if I can do anything with monowhite

[steady onyx]

ok mono red is rly cool

with like the razorkin and scalding viper

[glad peak]

Tried the powered jumpstart on modo

Forgot that was a thing

[steady onyx]

i tried making a green deck with the cards I have from packs

[steady onyx]

it was bad

@pulsar talon didnt know u were grinding the leagues gj

[sudden lava]

@fast tide Btw there is a card in one of the Avatar scene boxes that uses charge counters (and is artifact for those synergies). Does cost 50 charge to one shot someone tho

[glad peak]

Oh I like that a lot

[atomic harness]

Aetherflux-chan...

[sudden lava]

Aetherflux Junior

[steady onyx]

Renren when are you playing pauper with me 😭

u can play funny esper stuff like you like

ephemerate?

affinity?

[atomic harness]

I'm busy w cedh atm

[steady onyx]

ok

when we playing cedh then

...

I have a cedh deck build

[glad peak]

Maybe I should retool my erinis deck to have more Titan combos along with the hulk combo

That way people can really feel how Titan combos even without Titan but this time I make 3 people watch

[glad peak]

Oh now I remember why I didn’t

I didn’t put many tutors here in the first place

[sleek ferry]

@twilit canyon [[legend of kuruk]] is an absolutely disgusting card

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https://scryfall.com/card/tla/61/the-legend-of-kuruk-avatar-kuruk

The Legend of Kuruk <:mana2:292901509060886528><:manau:292901508754702338><:manau:292901508754702338>

Enchantment — Saga
(As this Saga enters and after your draw step, add a lore counter.)
I, II — Scry 2, then draw a card.
III — Exile this Saga, then return it to the battlefield transformed under your control.

Avatar Kuruk
Legendary Creature — Avatar
Whenever you cast a spell, create a 1/1 colorless Spirit creature token with "This token can't block or be blocked by non-Spirit creatures."
Exhaust — Waterbend : Take an extra turn after this one. (While paying a waterbend cost, you can tap your artifacts and creatures to help. Each one pays for . Activate each exhaust ability only once.)
4/3

[sleek ferry]

I was testing some of the fringe waterbend cards, and a lot of them are pretty solid

[granite badge]

Did they like rewave these

Scooped these up from local walmart

[lusty trench]

Theres a lot of dead stock of these floating

Someone likely just found a pallette of these in a warehouse

[granite badge]

that makes sense

espec giving the $15 markdown price

they clearly want them gone

[copper pecan]

drafting atla and i keep thinking this is a food token because it looks like a pizza at low rez

[sleek ferry]

It’s the white lotus piece

[copper pecan]

i'm aware

but in arena the thumbnail looks like a pizza

[sudden lava]

oh no, I can see it XD it does kinda look like a pizza

[copper pecan]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/210430323320815626/1444870178352529418/The_Clue_Token_That_Kinda_Looks_Like_a_Pizza_-_Urzatron.png?ex=692e47b6&is=692cf636&hm=f486857fe09b92d8e80366a51ef486032eaee7bd274d19ca6478658e3abc44fa&=&format=webp&quality=lossless&width=668&height=930

hellscube agrees with me

[atomic harness]

Do you like rog thras or yoshi thras more @glad peak

[sleek ferry]

Saw this tweet and I can’t help but heavily agree as this has become more of an issue as more people turn to cedh https://x.com/missourimtg/status/1995304496113623129?s=46&t=DdUsqNPs-c3IFDRYOhiq8A

Jeremy ✈️ (@MissouriMTG)

Kinda annoyed at a couple cedh people lately, as they buy nothing, proxy everything, and complain that they aren't catered to at one of the shops. Of course you aren't, a monthly tournament doesn't keep the lights on.

X · Dec 1, 2025, 1:30 AM

[granite badge]

This is part of why I don't engage with mtg that much outside arena anymore

I don't like how uncompetitive edh is by nature yet its the only thing ppl in my area want to play

[glad peak]

Tbh regular edh players are moving towards proxies too, game’s just really expensive to keep up with right now

[atomic harness]

Thank you mudkip

I will think about you every time I fetch for my underground sea

[glad peak]

Yoshi thras is more fun but Rog thras is better

[atomic harness]

oh is it just bc wht red package is stronger

White does give you epic stuff though between esper, silence, tithe, ranger captain

grand abolisher

[glad peak]

No, allowing cradle to tap on turn 1 is The best

[atomic harness]

[glad peak]

But nah Rog is just so good

[atomic harness]

Kinda sucks how silas isnt actually good and its just for the colors

stuff like tymna n thrasios are amazing in comparison

I've been having fun with tymna-chan... drawing cards good

[glad peak]

You can just play a simic big blue deck and not care about Rog and he’d still make an impact because of free cradle mana

[steady onyx]

benben can I intrest you in cocaine?

https://moxfield.com/decks/2MrG9ADf9km-Lg4hVDHweQ

[glad peak]

I love cocaine bear but there’s gotta be a better way

[steady onyx]

?

also u got me pilled on yeva

i think im putting together yeva

either yeva or ygra

i cant decide

idk

i like green and golgari

[glad peak]

There has to be a better way to do the bear/analyst combo, maybe in another deck with more colors

Yeva’s funne

[steady onyx]

ngl

idk