Maybe tamiyo’s power level is equivalent to her card design, she dawdles around doing nothing and then she auto wins 
#Magic the Gathering
tardy echo
(Don’t read compleated sage)
Wasn’t it also powered by her soul or something though
Surely if kamigawa tech could open omenpaths on its own they would’ve done that by now
twilit canyon
i think so
tardy echo
Tamiyo is just so weird
twilit canyon
iirc they were at the very least fucking with shit in regards to planeswalking
tardy echo
Idk why she was ever there
twilit canyon
they had invented the reality chip to keep the wanderer from fucking off randomly
and it worked
but, this is something they made for their empress
unsure how it'd look for, sure, a notable researcher, but not royalty
tardy echo
The reality chip also just keeps her spark stable doesn’t it
It’s not like it does anything else
Right 
Jin git also found tech that does stuff like that isn’t that how they compleated pws tbw
twilit canyon
they needed help to develop it in kamigawa
they compleated tamiyo in kamigawa iirc
tardy echo
Yeah but surely they already had the capability to do so if they were planning to go out and compleat her
steady onyx
magic lore
tardy echo
No?
steady onyx
twilit canyon
No?
yeah
tho again, its like
kamigawa, and phyrexia
2 of the most technically advanced planes
at the time
tardy echo
Not just at the time even still
No other plane comes close do they?
Kaladesh has a very diff type of tech
And it still seems inferior
twilit canyon
kaladesh did make the planar bridge
tardy echo
I thought that was specifically tezz
twilit canyon
nah he stole it from a fair there
tardy echo
Ahh
But also kaladesh tech works with all the magic in the plane doesn’t it
Vs kamigawa and phyrexian tech
twilit canyon
yeah each plane has their own tech effectively
not like ravnica is truly that far behind
and it isnt like esper is that far ahead
tardy echo
Seeing
And also while we’re still semi on the emrakul thing
I get the whole emeria=emrakul thing but what about like iona and all the angels there
Were they just like memory holed or something by her
twilit canyon
i dont think we know actually
they were blind to the fact that the eldrazi were a threat
but idr if they said it was the eldrazi that caused them to not see them as threats
tardy echo
Interesting
And did iona and all of them just fuck off or something
Or are they still hanging out
twilit canyon
they wear their halos over their eyes to blind themselves for their failure
but they should still be around
iona got a new card in zendikar rising
was a p solid card for the party theme
tardy echo
they wear their halos over their eyes to blind themselves for their failure
That’s metal as hell actually
tardy echo
iona got a new card in zendikar rising
That’s the only iona isn’t it
twilit canyon
yeah tho the other angels on zendikar are still around following their leader (iona)
tardy echo
It’s kind of hard to search for it because it shows so many random bullishit cards
twilit canyon
i gaslit myself idt its iona that got the card
but yeah she is still around
yeah i did it was linvala that got the new card
sleek ferry
Alright I ended up in white splashing blue and green
steady onyx
Alright I ended up in white splashing blue and green
for pre?
tardy echo
yeah i did it was linvala that got the new card
Didn’t linvala get a mom card too
past socket
Drana and Linvala ye
twilit canyon
psychic 🐐
past socket
forgge is truly a riddler
sleek ferry
1-1 going into round 3
My opponent just had a godly curve round 1
And game 2 of round 1 he put down an early diligent zookeeper and I had no realistic out
trail anvil
bought the avatar battlepass with mostly Google Play credit 
sleek ferry
Ended 1-1-1, 36 players at the 3pm prerelease
Btw read your cards, I thought ba sing se was instant speed earth bend 
sleek ferry
I might do Sunday since there’s supposedly still spots open, but the format is super fun for prerelease
Btw my promo was Zhao
gritty nest
would you guys sat there is boring commanders?
atomic harness
@twilit canyon oh why are ppl malding about tamiyo now
I've been seeing it a lot recently
twilit canyon
shes always been kinda broken
just went more or less unnoticed
and magic players love to complain
atomic harness
Yeah I thought it was fine bc ub frog fell off
the card is insane though mind you
glad peak
Tamiyo in which format?
atomic harness
[[inquisitive student]]
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Legendary Creature — Moonfolk Wizard
Flying
Whenever Tamiyo attacks, investigate. (Create a Clue token. It's an artifact with "
, Sacrifice this token: Draw a card.")
When you draw your third card in a turn, exile Tamiyo, then return her to the battlefield transformed under her owner's control.
0/3
Tamiyo, Seasoned Scholar
Legendary Planeswalker — Tamiyo
+2: Until your next turn, whenever a creature attacks you or a planeswalker you control, it gets -1/-0 until end of turn.
−3: Return target instant or sorcery card from your graveyard to your hand. If it's a green card, add one mana of any color.
−7: Draw cards equal to half the number of cards in your library, rounded up. You get an emblem with "You have no maximum hand size."
Loyalty: 2
glad peak
In legacy yep she has a ton of things she can just double
atomic harness
Oh what broke this in legacy
glad peak
And It’s trivially easy to flip her
Especially with brainstorm
Reanimate into reanimate
Brainstorm into Fetch into brainstorm is busted too
tardy echo
Oh what broke this in legacy
Like every card ever
glad peak
Not EVERY card but she is pretty disgusting in any fair matchup yep
zinc shard
List of potential brawl changes from a survey
atomic harness
4-man brawl
sudden lava
I pulled hater bird and a bunch more at locals
He's going for around 50-ish dollars, could trade it back to the store to get a Universe Within precon
atomic harness
I'd keep it unless you really want a precon
Great pull
tardy echo
Not EVERY card but she is pretty disgusting in any fair matchup yep
How do u flip tamiyo without putting anything crazy down in the first place idk
tardy echo
List of potential brawl changes from a survey
Banning more and less concessions are in the same boat
Also more cards/ ranked queue would both just be objectively good for the format idk
twilit canyon
How do u flip tamiyo without putting anything crazy down in the first place idk
u can do this now in historic/timeless thanks to hydroponics
letting u fetch -> draw off land etb -> fetch -> draw off land etb
and u spent 0 mana to flip tamiyo
sleek ferry
List of potential brawl changes from a survey
Brawl limited might go hard tbh, I know not many people did commander legends 1 due to covid, but that draft went so hard
glad peak
How do u flip tamiyo without putting anything crazy down in the first place idk
She funds herself and doesn’t get too broken until the next turn since she needs to +2 on the turn she flips
tardy echo
If u get a fully self flipped tamiyo i feel ur not playing against a legacy deck
tardy echo
u can do this now in historic/timeless thanks to hydroponics
Wait what card
glad peak
Yep, but it’s still possible
But more importantly is her +2 then -3 taking an extra turn, against unfair decks you’ll likely be dead, which is why im saying she's too good specifically into fair decks
tardy echo
I think against unfair decks it’s still definitely broken to get to resolve extras of broken cards
But it could be argued that’s more of an issue with those broken cards
trail anvil
List of potential brawl changes from a survey
I hope I get the survey too, this is the only damn format I play 😭
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steady onyx
also [[obssesive pursuit]] is insane
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Enchantment
When this enchantment enters and at the beginning of your upkeep, you lose 1 life and create a Clue token. (It's an artifact with ", Sacrifice this token: Draw a card.")
Whenever you attack, put X +1/+1 counters on target attacking creature, where X is the number of permanents you've sacrificed this turn. If X is three or greater, that creature gains lifelink until end of turn.
steady onyx
dimir felt incredibly strong
the red splash was not worth
but it was free since i got the dual lands i needed
so 
atomic harness
gritty nest
i made a warrior copy aggro deck using [[Zurgo, Thunder's Decree]]
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copper pecan
what are some good enchantments to run in go-shintai in brawl?
subtle sierra
damn i forgot doc aurlock makes airbended shit free
there's so many loops with that
steady onyx
@sleek ferry how did ur draft go same with @subtle sierra
subtle sierra
Draft?
subtle sierra
I'm 1-1 atm
steady onyx
ooh what colors
subtle sierra
Selesnya
stark skiff
missed my prerelease event but was told they had 20 players which is basically a full house for my locals so thats neat
steady onyx
missed my prerelease event but was told they had 20 players which is basically a...
we had 52 ;-;
which was absolutely insane
we had like 10 for spider man
stark skiff
thats dope.
stark skiff
SPM was a full house for us as well
i went 2-1 on that one. lost final round to a Gruul deck who had the insane hand of the 2 mana spiders that untap and 2 rhinos
steady onyx
i went 2-1 in spider man iirc, i had some esper deck and lost to a rly rly good selesnya counters deck
steady onyx
yeah
idk if im right cause im ass at limited
but dimir feels insane in avatar
esp the commons and uncommons,
i pulled 0 mythics and ran 3 rares in my deck 2 which i never casted
and the deck still felt unbeatable
vivid hatch
Sent another offer to the card shop owner
Trying to get two french HP LEDs off him for 500 bucks total
And a very solid SP/MP Library of Alexandria for $1000
Very fair offers imo
sleek ferry
<@304354673647812608> how did ur draft go same with <@271408742849839115>
1-1-1
Extremely fun set though
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subtle sierra
Great minds think alike, allies?
Yes but i literally had no choice
Also i have 2 3 mana toph, 2 earth kings, the 2 drop that heals draws and united front
I'd be dumb if it wasn't allies
Also 2-1
Last round left
steady onyx
[[bumi unleahed]]
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steady onyx
another crazy card
sleek ferry
Also i have 2 3 mana toph, 2 earth kings, the 2 drop that heals draws and united...
2 earth kings is crazy
subtle sierra
My two wins were bear beatdowns
sleek ferry
I can imagine, that’s one of the better bombs in the set
subtle sierra
Oh and united front for 5 when the healer and haru on board
Aaaaand i missed lethal, should have made 4
steady onyx
I can imagine, that’s one of the better bombs in the set
im actrually rly sad i didnt pull any like good bombs
i pulled 0 mythics
and like my rares were fine...
tiger seal and the enchantment were good sure
but like
i wish i pulled a fun buildaround mythic
sleek ferry
In retrospect after looking at my cards I should have gone Esper instead of bant
steady onyx
@sleek ferry hear me out terror in standard
...
with the new serpent from avatar
[[serpent of the pass]]
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Creature — Serpent
If there are three or more Lesson cards in your graveyard, you may cast this spell as though it had flash.
This spell costs 
less to cast for each noncreature, nonland card in your graveyard.
Those who walk the Serpent's Pass quickly discover the origin of its name.
6/5
steady onyx
we have some cantrips we can run
and we have floodpits drowner
and enduring curiosity we could theoretically run
steady onyx
but terror is the og goat :)
subtle sierra
steady onyx
idk
whats the best out of the 4
serpent of the pass, terror, eddymurk, loch
i think terror being 1 is kinda important
subtle sierra
Eddymurk or tolarian
steady onyx
but idk
subtle sierra
Loch isn't discounted iirc
steady onyx
no
subtle sierra
[loch whale]
subtle sierra
[[loch whale]]
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Creature — Whale
Flash
Ward
This creature enters tapped unless it's your turn.
6/6
Lagoon Breach 
Instant — Adventure
The owner of target attacking creature you don't control puts it on their choice of the top or bottom of their library.
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steady onyx
[[sailors' bane]]
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Creature — Dragon Turtle
This spell costs less to cast for each card you own in exile and in your graveyard that's an instant card, a sorcery card, or a card that has an Adventure.
Ward 
(Whenever this creature becomes the target of a spell or ability an opponent controls, counter it unless that player pays .)
7/7
steady onyx
is this card good enough [[drake hatcher]]
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steady onyx
ii like it but idk if its good
tardy echo
It was really good when prowess was a good deck
trail anvil
what are some good enchantments to run in go-shintai in brawl?
leyline binding, binding of the old gods, probably some other o-rings
dryad of the ilysian grove
subtle sierra
There's waaaay too many creatures for this
steady onyx
yeah
steady onyx
no this was for standard
but i was like taking ideas from pauper
but maybe they are too different
subtle sierra
If you go for standard you bounce stormchasers
Also lessons have huge spellslinging potential
And boomerang bounces
subtle sierra
Also finished 3-1
steady onyx
nice
steady onyx
my draft so far :p im rly bad at drafting
i should have just played red aggro lol
p1p1 uro
i like uro
glad peak
I mostly don’t mind this deck
On the weaker side but meh
From the looks of it, arena powered cube looks like force red aggro or spike a combo
steady onyx
this is the deck i made from draft
ggwp
whoops
this cube is fucking based holy hell
steady onyx
this draft is the worst thing ever fuck this game
tardy echo
He found out about sneak and tell
sleek ferry
He found out about sneak and tell
Which is ass in draft because you need a lot of things to go right
You like have to accidentally fall into it
steady onyx
You like have to accidentally fall into it
no bro
like im actually so tilted
he t1 booster tutor for a sneak attack
like how does that even happen
bro i legit just got fucking sacked that game
holy im still mad
but w/e
ended 6-3
nissa is crazy
prime time is crazy
subtle sierra
when is avatar legal on arena again?
twilit canyon
this coming tuesday
subtle sierra
nice
sleek ferry
Solar can’t wait to play gran gran
steady onyx
Solar can’t wait to play gran gran
i cant wait to play
im having a lot of fun playing mtg rn
and having 0 fun playing yugioh lol
i go weekly to pauper and standard rn and i play arena and have fun
and im getting a bit better at limited
i do just need to get rid of all my commander decks
cause i hate that fucking format
i just have too much cardboard and need to clean it up to only a couple decks
like my 2 pauper decks, my one standard deck, 1-2 commander deck, my proxied legacy deck and like get rid of all my bulk and othjer stuff to keep my room clean
steady onyx
wait
steady onyx
Now play Modern and cube
modern maybe
cube i do
is this rly true
if i like [[aang swift savior]] a spell
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Legendary Creature — Human Avatar Ally
Flash
Flying
When Aang enters, airbend up to one other target creature or spell. (Exile it. While it's exiled, its owner may cast it for rather than its mana cost.)
Waterbend 
: Transform Aang.
With the death of the moon spirit, the Avatar's tides of vengeance crashed over the Fire Nation fleet.
2/3
Aang and La, Ocean's Fury
Legendary Creature — Avatar Spirit Ally
Reach, trample
Whenever Aang and La attack, put a +1/+1 counter on each tapped creature you control.
5/5
steady onyx
is that basically counter
because it gets removed from stack and wont resolve?
that seems fucking stupid
but idk thats just my ygo brain ig
steady onyx
huh ok
so if a spell is moved to exile?
or just moved out of activation zone?
then it is removed form stack?
glad peak
If the spell is removed from the stack for any reason
There’s a combo deck people used to try where everyone would play it wrong because they thought if it was on the stack then it’ll resolve
I think it was [[nivix elemental]]
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glad peak
Or whatever it was called, the one where you exile a spell you control to put 2 +1/+1 counters on him
steady onyx
ok i see
wait but then this aang card seems rly rly good no?
instant speed removal / counterspell + body ?
glad peak
Not really
steady onyx
- late game mana dump
sudden lava
is that basically counter
its better then counter
glad peak
It’s a decent card but the fact the opponent can get it back even without aang dying is rough
glad peak
That’s a better way of thinking about it
glad peak
Not sorcery but whatever the timing of that spell is
steady onyx
okok
sudden lava
cuz if a spell cant be countered normally, the Aang still smack it off the stack
steady onyx
ooh fun
sudden lava
and yeah they just cast the thing at what the card can be cast at normally
steady onyx
so if it has flash that would be instant speed?
sudden lava
yup
glad peak
subtle sierra
twilit canyon
idt its outright better. its different, and this difference will make it feel better to different ppl (myself included)
copper pecan
they're very different games
steady onyx
idt its outright better. its different, and this difference will make it feel be...
no def im just exxacgurating rn, but like to me rn as ive been palying a lot in college cause we have a tcg club that SHOCKER plays mtg and not ygo i think being able to play it with people more often is contributing to that
sleek ferry
As somebody that has played all tcg’s, mtg is better yes. Theres less non games pre side and def post side
sudden lava
Birb is getting very expensive (This is a good thing for me, I hope it stays high so I can trade it in for more cards worth)
trail anvil
well yeah
past socket
Glad I got at least one of those pricy cards
sudden lava
Glad I got at least one of those pricy cards
A very cute mythic 💖
steady onyx
As somebody that has played all tcg’s, mtg is better yes. Theres less non games ...
i think mtg is also harder or at least tests a diff part of brain
at least it makes me think more
zinc shard
lusty trench
Oh damn I was right the bird is hydroid crasis 2.0
Got its price tag and everything
trail anvil
it makes hydroid krasis look balanced tbh
subtle sierra
hmm i have no idea if the bant airbend thing is good, and i kinda don't know what to fill it with that you get to the combo faster
the only thing i can think of is sariema
sleek ferry
hmm i have no idea if the bant airbend thing is good, and i kinda don't know wha...
Well what’s your purpose for splashing green would be the first question I would ask you
subtle sierra
that's the combo
doc makes you loop aang and appa
for infinite tokens in their end step
sleek ferry
[[doc aurlock]]
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Legendary Creature — Bear Druid
Spells you cast from your graveyard or from exile cost less to cast.
Plotting cards from your hand costs less.
"Learning stops only when you close your mind off to wonder."
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subtle sierra
that's the literal only reason for green
i just don't know anything else to fill the deck with
sleek ferry
Oh yeah I’ve seen this played by Ashley, idk if this is the move though
subtle sierra
perhaps not, i'm just looking at what stuff to order for irl play
i def want to get lessons
and shove them somehow into jeskai
sleek ferry
Gran gran is like your ideal control 1 drop
steady onyx
what would ppl take here?
like i think its between prime time and cradle
but im curious
copper pecan
either cradle or prime time yeah
steady onyx
i took prime i think
but idk
maybe cradle was correct
both drafts now ive drafted green splashing other colors landfall ramp goodstuff
lol
twilit canyon
mox diamond is generally correct
twilit canyon
cradle good, titan good, diamond will see play in about all decks u play/build
steady onyx
well cradle wheeled somehow
but outside that if my pack 1 was basically already green stuff
is diamond still correct?
twilit canyon
yes
steady onyx
ok
twilit canyon
diamond is just a tier below moxen/lotus/power
steady onyx
i get that
twilit canyon
tbf so is cradle, but again, if your deck ends up needing to pivot, diamond will see play in 90% of decks
cradle in maybe 70%
steady onyx
i get that
twilit canyon
titan in less
twilit canyon
lol
twilit canyon
2x mox could have u play a 3 drop turn 1
steady onyx
i have to
i think triome might be correct here? but strip mine with wrenn and 6 and titan to search and stuff feels so funny
god i usck at limited
twilit canyon
dont bother with triome
sleek ferry
Mox Diamond was def the pick here, it’s the least commital pick while also being generally strong
steady onyx
ok ok ok
god it
ok my draft
idk if it was good
but i like green stuff :)
god i prob took too many lands thinking about it now
steady onyx
sentinel feels shit no ?
twilit canyon
torsten gtg
twilit canyon
esper?
steady onyx
yeah
steady onyx
ok im just ewrong ok
twilit canyon
ur mono green splash blue/red
steady onyx
yeah i get that
sleek ferry
god i usck at limited
There’s a couple of different draft Strats especially for pack 1, I would generally recommend staying non commital (fast mana, fetches) unless you just stumble into a power 9 that’s too good to pass up
If you go into pack 2 with 2-3 fetches you’re generally feeling pretty decent
steady onyx
ok ok
twilit canyon
or single color power card
ie: you get... icetill explorer p1? usually is also good
steady onyx
the whole first apck was like shit, i just took some fetches and lands
steady onyx
my p1 p1 was marsh flats lol
twilit canyon
thats fine/good
steady onyx
and then bill was in second pack
so i was like ill take bill and maybe play around a bit of landfall
but then I think I got a bit too tunnel visioned
twilit canyon
pay attention to the full pack
steady onyx
i just remeember being like oh i took a fetch p1 bill synergizes with fetches
twilit canyon
even if u dont grab it
steady onyx
yeah i do that a bit more in irl drafts
when im playing against those ppl
so i know what they are building
twilit canyon
do that even online
steady onyx
okok
twilit canyon
so u can keep context of what can wheel
sleek ferry
i just remeember being like oh i took a fetch p1 bill synergizes with fetches <a...
Bill is a pick you make when you’re already committed to a certain strat mid-late pack
Nobody’s picking bill early
Unless the pack was just terrible
steady onyx
ok
ill pay more attnetnion next time
this feels rough now that im taking a bigger look at it though
the lands confuse me
ngl
idk how I should deal wiht all of them
sleek ferry
Like let’s say p1 p1 you grab a fetch, p1 p2 you don’t see anything stand out but you see a shock/triome that your fetch can get, I would personally go the triome/shock
steady onyx
Like let’s say p1 p1 you grab a fetch, p1 p2 you don’t see anything stand out bu...
yeha i get that
sleek ferry
There’s a good amount of scenarios where you can realistically end up 4 colors in this cube
twilit canyon
and temple ig
steady onyx
should I cut man lands? i thoguht they would be good
since i can grab them from deck
and just having bodies is nice
sleek ferry
Oh also, try to pay attention to what colors/strats you’re seeing come back to you in the packs
It’s a good way to pivot/commit
twilit canyon
tho i think... u only really need... 4 red 6 blue
twilit canyon
yes tho in that case, another mountain
drop an island
sprawl will be on blue duty in most scenarios
steady onyx
are any of the like non land cards worth cutting
i was considering like tear asunder
twilit canyon
also cut overgrown
steady onyx
but thought removal was importasnt
i had overgrtown so I could tear asunder for full rmoveal
steady onyx
right
twilit canyon
the tiny black splash with a bayou is fine
steady onyx
i also hjave nissa tbf
sleek ferry
Wait I just realized the blue splash here feels really bad lol
twilit canyon
uro is great, but what else to play?
idk if he can afford black proper
the black cards have poor synergy
steady onyx
the black just was what i got from last stuff
twilit canyon
yeah looks way too disorganized
i mean, u can arguably cut blue entirely
but then this deck looks way too underpowered
sleek ferry
Well it just feels bad having to splash blue with 0 blue fetchable sources and only 2 blue cards. This could have probably pivoted to like splash black for removal/reanimator at some point
gritty nest
How much would you guys spend for a loose Mardu surge precon? MP is $35 and lowest listing is $40
lusty trench
Legit
glad peak
I’d probably just buy the singles of the cards you want from it
lusty trench
I wouldnt pay more than 25 for it
gritty nest
The store had it listed for $65
lusty trench
They high?
glad peak
Yes that’s high
gritty nest
Idk but I told them about it and got it for $35
twilit canyon
nice work
steady onyx
will there be avatar drafts that arent phantom?
so I can use my gems to get standard cards and build a standard deck
cause this is my current standard deck and I wanna build a bo3 so I can practice on arena and in person
maybe i just try to farm for simic ouro like I have in paper
i rly rly like the deck
twilit canyon
will there be avatar drafts that arent phantom?
yep
thats the usual draft on arena
tardy echo
like i feel snetinel is completely a commander card
Better in commander but still insane in 1v1 formats
steady onyx
@glad peak 3-0 at pauper tnite
beat
caw gates
Terror
burn
felt rly good
im def learning spy well
subtle sierra
Yeah they do that
They changed the model for it already
It functions the same tho
glad peak
<@149916954331709440> 3-0 at pauper tnite
Oh nice, how were the terror games?
steady onyx
Oh nice, how were the terror games?
i mean fine
i was just rly fast
im trying 5th land sided so 4 main
and that just makes the deck rly fast
and so like idk
he wasnt able to drop enough terrors by the time I could combo
glad peak
Oh you’re doing 4 land, I thought you swapped to more midrange
steady onyx
well i want to
just missing the jund cards for more midrange
:(
but i want to try out all variants of spy
i also am looking at local card stores and picking up cards for gardens... idk if i will play the deck but in our playgroup no one rly plays control so I thought it would be helpful to put together a control list jut so someone could play so we could test asp
but terror was the hardest mu
even post side it was just they have so much interaction and can put me on a clock
caw gates caught me off guard with thraben main lol, post side i physically cannot lose a game to caw gates but pre side i had 0 idea they were on charm main lol
steady onyx
i mean i cannot beat thraben main
unless im maining jack and dispel
which sounds insane
lol
steady onyx
its a cool deck
i needed to do a mtga quest with blue
and so i threw together bad blue terror in standard and now I wanna play terror in standard :(
its just too bad without note and scour
copper pecan
in this house we love when our creatures cost 1 less to cast for each instant or sorcery in our graveyard
subtle sierra
In this house we love when doc aurlock says airbending is free
copper pecan
doc aurlock is my favorite airbender
copper pecan
i feel like saltbending would be a type of earthbending
subtle sierra
True
tardy echo
The more gameplay I see of it the more badgermole seems like an actual broken card icl
At least they finally gave green good cards 
twilit canyon
it is. tho idk if it has a real home in standard
sleek ferry
Well I can tell you the card is an absolute unit in draft/sealed
tardy echo
I mean I feel any deck that plays elves can also fit it
Like even without the actual elves synergy it’s also a 2 mana 2/2 that gives you 2 mana
And it scales even more insane in multiples
sleek ferry
@fallow citrus here you go friend https://youtu.be/J6irD_xEHoA?si=7liqhdXsSJQ5iJoe
glad peak
As much as I would enjoy it, mole + saga does not bring jund back into the modern meta
twilit canyon
ur right. it brings back the rock instead 
steady onyx
bibiru?
sleek ferry
I forgot Ty Lee has flash
steady onyx
@twilit canyon u should play some avatar standard with me when it comes on arena so I can practice and get better!
same with u @sleek ferry
sleek ferry
Wisty has a testing group already
sleek ferry
I spend the first month of every new set playing cope
steady onyx
I spend the first month of every new set playing cope
great you will still roll me lol
sleek ferry
just make sure you have 4 multiversal passages crafted
twilit canyon
<@480437470870110209> u should play some avatar standard with me when it comes o...
i will not be playing arena this week i think
steady onyx
slakcing
sleek ferry
Week 1 is likely going to be a power check on mole and gran gran on the ladder
twilit canyon
slacking on mtg to further my career woe is me
sleek ferry
indeed
steady onyx
lol
mtg has been like the thing keeping me sane in college ngl
its just something that isnt work work work
fallow citrus
<@122453664466993155> here you go friend https://youtu.be/J6irD_xEHoA?si=7liqhdX...
why is every card a fucking rare man
I hate wildcards
sleek ferry
why is every card a fucking rare man
South Pole Voyager is def replaceable, as is hakoda
steady onyx
@sleek ferry hey look is that a terror?
fallow citrus
probably but it's just like
steady onyx
wow thus deck looks smexy
fallow citrus
the worst part of arena
golden plover
Why are so many people on that stupid Ketramose deck? I don't wanna play against that shit anymore, I wanna reanimate
golden plover
Let me play my graveyard your shit sucks anyway
That deck is literally so ass most of the time
twilit canyon
nvm i have time to play some mtga today
wait fuck avatar isnt out today
oh shit my frog's gen alpha
its such a shame he can never 6/9 nor 9/11
steady onyx
yay!
i got nice lands for spy
since i only need 5 ;-;
so i could spend a couple extra bucks on lands
fallow citrus
oh those are the best lands
glad peak
For a moment I thought toph was flipping us off
steady onyx
oh those are the best lands
yes i rly like them
they def cost a bit tho so only for like decks liks spy I think i would buy them
copper pecan
which magic card is steve?
twilit canyon
sakura tribe elder
gritty nest
Just need Darcy
steady onyx
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/G57pLvTbwAEOv0v?format=jpg&name=medium
but bro if i ever have a kid, atraxa is gonna go HARD
twilit canyon
please, never reproduce
steady onyx
bro baby areo is gonna go crazyyyyy
fallow citrus
he's so true for this
https://x.com/Mengu09/status/1990561691663286294?s=20
subtle sierra
does this means avatar or do masteries expire a few hours early?
also crazy nickname
atomic harness
Is it
zinc shard
Phyrexian Bees sound horrifying
trail anvil
don't we have those
huh I'm surprised there's nothing that has toxic, flying and deathtouch at the same time
stark skiff
Skithirix is basically close
glad peak
We have atraxa, shes toxic, right?
copper pecan
yeah that happens on the day the release a new set
sleek ferry
it's normal guys, you're not special
sleek ferry
repost
subtle sierra
it's normal guys, you're not special
oh i get that it's just that it's the first time i see it
twilit canyon
its a different part of the quote
subtle sierra
thus my surprise
glad peak
Well hes right
steady onyx
im bored so im using twitter
twilit canyon
he's so true for this
https://x.com/Mengu09/status/1990561691663286294?s=20
mengu... the goat
steady onyx
i dont know too much about him, kinda just hes a good? pro player
but i like watching his pauper videos on his youtube
subtle sierra
32 minutes 
glad peak
He’s a great player
glad peak
Loves pauper
glad peak
Hates commander but tolerates it enough
steady onyx
Hates commander but tolerates it enough
k hes based as all hell
glad peak
steady onyx
actually i think one of his videos was the reason i got into pauper like a yr or two? or three? ago
he made a video on faeries
and i liked it
steady onyx
yeah saw that
sleek ferry
While you kids are busy airbending, me and @fallow citrus will be reaching numbered mythic with 5 color allies
sleek ferry
oh you don't know that mtgo players are some of the most insufferable people in the community
and I'm not talking about people that use mtgo as a practice tool, I'm talking about the people whose only way to consume mtg is mtgo
subtle sierra
While you kids are busy airbending, me and <@122453664466993155> will be reachin...
i just playtested hands with the deck and i liked it a lot
subtle sierra
it's a control deck that just shits out a combo
sleek ferry
I'm so interested to see what mole ends up doing
steady onyx
I'm so interested to see what mole ends up doing
do we think price goig up?
subtle sierra
the mole ends up forcing everyone to run cheap removal to deal with it
imo
we'll see
steady onyx
cause i should prob pick some up for simic no matter what right?
sleek ferry
I don't think the card will be that good, comparatively to other formats, but there's so much doom and gloom about the card, that I'm interested in seeing how the format deals with it
Alright, I only have 8 rares and 12 mythics to work with
- 10k gold
subtle sierra
gl pulling smth
steady onyx
BRO
I cant get enough of this shit
🤣
what tf does porcine mean btw
i get the gist from context
sleek ferry
I'm thinking about it now, I'm pretty sure I only need 3 swift saviors
steady onyx
30k gold and like 5k gems but i should only use gems on draft right?
and these wc
imma TRY to build a bo3 standard deck
but idt thats happening
i justthink too few resources
sleek ferry
This Azorius tempo deck would go so much harder if we had wedding announcement sigh
and TWE
steady onyx
This Azorius tempo deck would go so much harder if we had wedding announcement s...
and tor?
sleek ferry
which there is none
fallow citrus
god I wish we had aether vial
sleek ferry
I wish we could make the EoE anthem work
fallow citrus
which is that
subtle sierra
the spaceship
steady onyx
ok @sleek ferry ur right these people are so stupid https://x.com/mr_usea/status/1990434754362302620?s=20
X
subtle sierra
anthem when station 2
fallow citrus
ok <@304354673647812608> ur right these people are so stupid https://x.com/mr_us...
they are but also it sucks that it's just forced an art change on them
steady onyx
they are but also it sucks that it's just forced an art change on them
i mean sure but still
like this dosent matter bro idk
subtle sierra
i used a sleeved piece of paper with "MAP" on it for like a month
fallow citrus
can't you just use whatever token you want?
I think mtgo chooses for you
steady onyx
i used a sleeved piece of paper with "MAP" on it for like a month
i made my own tokens for. abit wait
twilit canyon
i have the dry erase tokens
golden plover
ok <@304354673647812608> ur right these people are so stupid https://x.com/mr_us...
Nah I get what they're complain about actually. So MTGO only uses the most recent token's wet for a card
golden plover
It's not the end of the world, but it's very tonally jarring now that you don't have the choice
steady onyx
bro fucking drew on monstrous rage promo
card is banned
and i have like 20 of them
🤣
steady onyx
in the only 2 form
WQITINSK
BUT THEN I CANS PLAY IT IN PAPER
its fine i still have like 6 extras
twilit canyon
nah i get it tho but i'd just be just a bit careful w the promos
twilit canyon
burn or aggro. i dont play pauper rn
golden plover
steady onyx
sleek ferry
I never thought about it like that
glad peak
Who knew that cards interact together in interesting ways
steady onyx
so i assume its like once these end we reset
golden plover
It's after noon est
subtle sierra
that sadly doesn't say anything to me
sleek ferry
yeah it's usually closer to 1, servers usually go down around 11ish
steady onyx
brooo
glad peak
I wonder what the best modern no banlist deck would be now
I can’t remember what it was before but now it has to be some uro oko nadu yorion pile, no?
golden plover
I imagine it's still that, yeah
fallow citrus
was about to answer then I saw "no banlist"
glad peak
Oh astrolabe is legal there too
Holy value
It’s just 4c Omnath with uro oko nadu yorion ephem astro phlage
steady onyx
oh btw misty
idk if u know pro scene
but someone from locl arena t4 worlds? last year
twilit canyon
uhh if its who i think, then no he doesnt only play burn
hes known for playing burn
steady onyx
oh ok
well yeah
he plays a lot of mono red
apparently
and some belcher
but idk
it was interesting
glad peak
Huh
I didn’t expect to do this so soon but
I’m known for playing burn and belcher in my area but I love and have more results playing tempo
steady onyx
wlel there was only 1 mono red in t4 of worlds last year :p
glad peak
That was not me
subtle sierra
it's not up sigh
trail anvil
this is retribution for me talking shit about the set before realizing wizards cooked 
subtle sierra
well i'm killing ppl in silver with budget white aggro on this acc so it's cool
i have to stay home anyway
trail anvil
will the cloudflare outage affect this
lusty trench
How will this affect lebrons legacy
trail anvil
oh shit it's here @subtle sierra
sleek ferry
Ended up pulling 5 wildcards out of 13 packs wtf
subtle sierra
Aaaand i got ass fucked by lack of lands the last 3 games
The shuffler is not kind
I have 26 lands, having 3 lands in around 15 cards is fucking stupid
twilit canyon
fon's a rare nice
trail anvil
dang the free commander spells are uncraftable
subtle sierra
sigh the servers are kinda shitting themselves
on the other hand the bant thing works incredibly well
sleek ferry
Finally having fun again
subtle sierra
same
sleek ferry
[[dour-port mage]] the goat
lost widgetBOT
Creature — Frog Wizard
Whenever one or more other creatures you control leave the battlefield without dying, draw a card.
, 
: Return another target creature you control to its owner's hand.
"Find your mooring and stop clogging the shipping lanes!"
1/3
tardy echo
Think I wanna try building good old fashioned ramp with badgermole 
sleek ferry
💤
steady onyx
Think I wanna try building good old fashioned ramp with badgermole <:dubiouscrea...
ramp into EUGENE?
bro
that shit is PEAK
subtle sierra
steady onyx
opened all my packs spent all my gold
trail anvil
love me some shrines
twilit canyon
hell yeah
steady onyx
how expensive will this be? i know its the 100$ promo but how much do they normally go for?
it looks sick but also like idk monster hunters and i dont play commander so maybe i shoudltt even both
lusty trench
Depends how popular the franchise is
steady onyx
steady onyx
dont ask ai lol
i was meming
tardy echo
@twilit canyon opinion
Do u think elemental teachings is worth in ramp
Followup on if yes should I play man lands to get max value
Currently testing V1 of deck
tardy echo
Agreed
Also trying kyoshi just because I pulled the full set and it’s a cute card
Not sure if it’ll be too great though
fallow citrus
what do I add to uw control now that avatar has dropped
fallow citrus
yeah, I assume just 2 wan shi tbh
Quench might not be bad but it's just temu no more lies
twilit canyon
yeah
fallow citrus
but it's really just accumulate wisdom that's worth playing in uw control
subtle sierra
idk if uw specifically has enough lessons to comfortably run wisdom/attachments
red has the good removal
fallow citrus
ig I just add wan shi and call it a day then
stark skiff
it looks sick but also like idk monster hunters and i dont play commander so may...
the reception to these has been pretty underwhelming
sleek ferry
yeah, it's monster hunter, I'd be underwhelmed too
tardy echo
Deck has been very fun and shockingly less clunky than I expected for a day 1 draft
sleek ferry
I cooked this guy something fierce
tardy echo
Mostly trying to find a balance w mana dumps
sleek ferry
People need to stop leaving 3 mana up in UW and wondering why they’re losing tempo when you don’t play into Aang
You need other flash threats
Guy was purposely not playing into my Aang, so I went okay, I’m going to just Kirin bounce my cryogen, keep drawing, put another evasive body on the board, and run away with the game
zinc shard
sleek ferry
Holy. I might need that’s rough buddy
copper pecan
secret tunnel 
sleek ferry
that's always been a thing
zinc shard
sorry if the audio's low, that was my first time using OBS
steady onyx
nah it was good
sleek ferry
It sounds good
steady onyx
i rly want thats rough buddy tho
like holy
and I have enouhg gems for it
;sob
😭
zinc shard
I had to look up "It's the quenchiest" lol
