Magic the Gathering

[twilit canyon]

but there were stronger picks u could have, and should have gone

[sleek ferry]

Yeah I see that now. I think laella might have just always been the safer pick here

This was pick 3

[twilit canyon]

you basically had a mono red aggro deck right there

if you had instead gone for riddler, a control list with fractured id would be great too

[atomic harness]

True

[sleek ferry]

Got no more than 3 wins I. All my vintage cube crafts but still had a blast

Now I’m broke after almost 9 hours of playing it

(Mtga broke, not real life broke)

[copper pecan]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/948945461597831218/1433472997158555689/RDT_20251030_1508121923453005453721925.jpg?ex=6904d143&is=69037fc3&hm=5b15ba2c52e7fe1df8898ea693ea4a54771c85af3f1a624e79770e0167573a9f&=&format=webp&width=666&height=930

SECRET TUNNEL, SECRET TUNNEL, THROUGH THE MOUNTAINS, SECRET TUNNEL

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/948945461597831218/1433473695287869480/image0.gif?ex=6904d1e9&is=69038069&hm=77b84c63134d39b814eee0b522e7ba8950ed4de93f88d3744ad14c9c28d9313d&=&width=625&height=313

[tardy echo]

If I read this card without knowing the set mechanics I’d have a stroke

[copper pecan]

i would assume there's a mechanic that involves animating lands in the set

and there is

[sudden lava]

the flavor win on this is so good!

https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/s8jwbYJzveTtZj2kw083iC1TLjsUuF21aTM_BhDnleE/https/i.redd.it/jlayifvc3wxf1.png?format=webp&quality=lossless&width=581&height=809

you search the secret tunnel on chapter 2, play it for your land for turn. Then next turn earthbend it so it can attack

[tardy echo]

Yes but have they ever printed that line of text on a land before

[sudden lava]

and you can also use it to make two lovers unblockable so good

[glad peak]

if there was that text on a card i would assume that there was a way to animate the card on the card itself

[tardy echo]

Also that part

[copper pecan]

my favorite part of atla was when zuko summoned the elf tokens

[atomic harness]

This land can't be blocked is crazy

[atomic harness]

Can I put this in my mono white deck

[tardy echo]

Putting zuko in green was not on my bingo card

[atomic harness]

There's a lot for random green stuff yeah

[fallow citrus]

proxy card lookin ass

[atomic harness]

which UB started this trend?

or was it not from UB actually

[copper pecan]

it was the ff set that first did this

[golden plover]

Crazy low effort choice holy shit

There's no part of Zuko that's Rhys

[fallow citrus]

yeah the ff set did it

I think they looked slightly better in it but they still suck

[golden plover]

At least the FF illustration ones look good

The game cutscene screenshots looked like shit

[atomic harness]

There was a kinnan one where we were laughing our asses off

oh this one

[copper pecan]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/583744045726040084/1433507192803299472/fca-52-inalla-archmage-ritualist.jpg?ex=6904f11c&is=69039f9c&hm=9492b0b1bb9959a75f0b663b4a963a4d533989a9f1937770a6f5bce0f59d3e3f&=&format=webp&width=610&height=850
i think this is the worst a magic card has ever looked

[atomic harness]

[golden plover]

Yeah I think the Inalla is worse

Literally feels like a proxy someone made in like 20 seconds

Although Rhys up there is making a strong argument too

Wait why is he not [[Bruse Tarl]]?

[lost widget]

Multiple cards match “Bruse Tarl”, can you be more specific?

[golden plover]

[[Bruse Tarl, Boorish Herder]]

[lost widget]

https://scryfall.com/card/c16/30/bruse-tarl-boorish-herder

Bruse Tarl, Boorish Herder <:mana2:292901509060886528><:manar:292901508796645397><:manaw:1007102126813610074>

Legendary Creature — Human Ally
Whenever Bruse Tarl enters or attacks, target creature you control gains double strike and lifelink until end of turn.
Partner (You can have two commanders if both have partner.)
3/3

[golden plover]

Ally for limited, in Boros colors, and fits much better

[lusty trench]

I mean

Imo this has been beaten

You can actually see the fuzz and pixels from where they zoomed in on the frame

[copper pecan]

nah cruel tutor is at least funny

kuja is just ugly

[lusty trench]

To quote someone on twitter "I love when zuko redeemed himself and then gave birth to a bunch of elves"

[copper pecan]

so true

[golden plover]

Surely there was any other shot from Ozai talking to Zuko that would have fit the Cruel Tutor

Isn't that the episode where we see the flashback where he burns his face?

[lusty trench]

FFIX cgi innit

[golden plover]

Like use that shot

[golden plover]

Yeah that shot

[lusty trench]

Or this

[golden plover]

Easy

The valakut looks like shit too

It's zoomed in on like 1/6th of the frame that's only on screen for like 3 seconds

This one is cool, but it makes no sense

[lusty trench]

This one just looks like they got absolutely fucked by the original frame being a two thirds shot so it doesnt line up

[golden plover]

Tbf the other card depicting this scene is also nonsensical for the moment

Oh and the art is worse

Like why does it enable domain? It should've been a stax thing

[lusty trench]

Lying ass lion turtle

[lusty trench]

This probably should've been a vow or silence

[golden plover]

I think Silence is the best fit yeah

[lusty trench]

Its hard to accurately represent the scene because there arent a lot of relevant out right prohibiting stax pieces that fit it

[golden plover]

Silence is the best fit

Obviously force of negation is more expensive

But like, they already put a bunch of stinkers on each bonus sheet as is

[lusty trench]

Force of negation couldve been the day of black sun

[golden plover]

That would have been so much better

[subtle sierra]

[[creeping tar pit]] but it's obvious cause it's a creature land

[lost widget]

https://scryfall.com/card/clb/888/creeping-tar-pit

Creeping Tar Pit

Land
This land enters tapped.
: Add or .
: This land becomes a 3/2 blue and black Elemental creature until end of turn and can't be blocked this turn. It's still a land.

[steady onyx]

but its also part of ability

[subtle sierra]

Yes

I'm not arguing that it's not funny out of context

[steady onyx]

bro

imagine seeing aang and not knowing what the things do

[subtle sierra]

Well we didn't at first

So uh

[steady onyx]

right

[subtle sierra]

Not that hard to imagine

[steady onyx]

i forgot

aang was revealed super ealy

[subtle sierra]

We only had firebending cause it was on the card itself

[steady onyx]

sick card

[lusty trench]

Her ass is not looking at that gator

This might actually be my least favourite card ever what the hell is this

[tardy echo]

This is a different line of text

[subtle sierra]

shush

[tardy echo]

Tar pit could be blocked if it was was earthbended

[lusty trench]

Secret tunnel is racist

Damn

[copper pecan]

"interracial relationships are only okay if they have the same job" - the secret tunnel

[pulsar talon]

Wdym this land cant be blocked?

[twilit canyon]

it cant be blocked

[storm elbow]

It cant be blocked

[pulsar talon]

How do you even block a land to begin with?

Lands attack now?

Wait

[twilit canyon]

there are many many ways to animate lands into attacking

[storm elbow]

^

[twilit canyon]

in fact, this set has a whole mechanic around it

earthbending x is a mechanic where it animates a land with x +1/+1 counters

and if it dies or is exiled, it comes back as a land tapped

[pulsar talon]

It all started when the fire nation attacked...

i hate it here

[pulsar talon]

Interesting mechanic tho

[sudden lava]

this set literally has a mechanic that animates lands

[subtle sierra]

and as summer mentioned

[sudden lava]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1020928983883325522/1433524956557475860/RDT_20251030_1835572493948522234853448.jpg?ex=690501a7&is=6903b027&hm=0621b64d224f171f75d8d7cb777e481b23685e50eb0c9801761dca413f7008c6&=&format=webp&width=561&height=809

Zuko but he wanders around our battlefields

[subtle sierra]

the saga that is related to it both searches it and earthbends it

[pulsar talon]

I did have a stroke

[sudden lava]

a land with ||vigilance|| was leaked also

not all in the image are leaked, but many are

[pulsar talon]

Cursed

[subtle sierra]

was this posted?

cause that's our destroy target land thing

[glad peak]

Is that… it?

Bruh

[subtle sierra]

apparently

[zinc shard]

Submarine
No evasion.

How did this happen again?

[gritty nest]

[[silent submersible]]

[lost widget]

https://scryfall.com/card/war/66/silent-submersible

Silent Submersible <:manau:292901508754702338><:manau:292901508754702338>

Artifact — Vehicle
Whenever this Vehicle deals combat damage to a player or planeswalker, draw a card.
Crew 2 (Tap any number of creatures you control with total power 2 or more: This Vehicle becomes an artifact creature until end of turn.)
2/3

[gritty nest]

no evasion either

[trail anvil]

I don't imagine so, but ik they've put modular on a land before

[trail anvil]

I thought the destroy target land thing was 1R

and we agreed it's probably just another demolition field spell

[trail anvil]

||origins of metalbending looks so nice for decks that want to protect their creatures. a bit below rate for both sides but the flexibility is so nice||

[trail anvil]

https://youtube.com/shorts/fVQtF80GJzc?si=eHEg0_ouQS3gyNCH wait I don't normally post mald videos here but this makes me want to build azula with no instants

etali + azula sounds genuinely hilarious

[zinc shard]

I built her as a spellslinger deck but I may need to consider a theft build

[steady onyx]

@twilit canyon i know u play a lot of rdw whats important to get

or is this like fine

i miss the old pump

and inknow theres that resonance pump deck for bo3

but i think im too poor for it rn

or do i save stguff for avatar since seems to be some good red stuff in there

[twilit canyon]

i'd just save

meta will shift soon

[steady onyx]

mkay thanks

[trail anvil]

bout to get 4 mythic wildcards

[stark skiff]

😭

[subtle sierra]

Yeah i thought it will be a cleansing wildfire retrain

[lusty trench]

Ayo wait this as a lesson

[glad peak]

Deadly precision is always good in pauper

[atomic harness]

@sleek ferry

Man the screenshots are killing me

I like the show and I even like those scenes but they just dont sit right @fallow citrus @trail anvil

[fallow citrus]

I felt the same with the ff ones

[atomic harness]

[subtle sierra]

it feels a bit lazy to me

[atomic harness]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1bniMNQJ2M0

[tardy echo]

This art isn’t bad but it’s a little odd

[subtle sierra]

She's just hella realistic in a cartoon theme

[tardy echo]

Yes

[golden plover]

The flavor text is really funky on that one

Feels like filler text

[zinc shard]

Unagi of Kiyoshi Island

Flash

Ward — Waterbend 4

Whenever an opponent draws their second card each turn, draw 2 cards.

[subtle sierra]

uhhh

what's with the good blue flash stuff in this set

[sudden lava]

Note legendary if you desire to make this your commander

[sudden lava]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1371350916242079805/1433841301614235668/kbw14btasgyf1.png?ex=69062845&is=6904d6c5&hm=4c2f01a2bd73a3e2f801a43e8be3b53528d3dca550e6f1eaf72f57b1001f15f1&=&format=webp&quality=lossless&width=494&height=692

Ooh they cooked

[glad peak]

This is pretty generic design ngl

Arbitrary restriction with keyword and something that costs a lot to enable it

[sudden lava]

The clue lets her seek her target (Like giving Nyla an item to sniff out her foe) allowing her to swiftly get to her target (evasion, the opponent is who she is hunting down). Sacrifice I am blanking on a bit

But yeah Im gonna need 2 copies of her, luckily she is an uncommon

One for her own deck, and the second copy for a deck I am calling Goth Lady Petsmart (in the 99)

[steady onyx]

whos commander?

lilliana?

[sudden lava]

Cleopatra

[trail anvil]

yep there it is

cleansing wildfire that hits artifacts but not your own stuff

[twilit canyon]

price of freedom and its not a callback to the iconic pop smh

[subtle sierra]

oh they're doing two destroy lands

oh i can see more in mtgtop8

Avatar's Wrath
Sorcery
Choose up to one target creature, then airbend all other creatures.
Until your next turn, your opponents can't cast spells from anywhere other than their hands.
Exile Avatar's Wrath.

[sudden lava]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1371350916242079805/1433860501430993046/RDT_20251031_1249042212071678514771790.jpg?ex=69063a27&is=6904e8a7&hm=c695a1b26ffb35783826cd3435c9e9968cf1ab0f7554532405f30377d6213fc1&=&format=webp&width=541&height=809

[sudden lava]

https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/CcdfsMyBGMBfdSyAkr0dJiv1oeVZObteAna89cCv4UE/%3Fwidth%3D320%26crop%3Dsmart%26auto%3Dwebp%26s%3D9dc597f9b5db40765b6407621bbd14954fa40cf8/https/preview.redd.it/tla-treetop-freedom-fighters-via-gamespot-v0-p3i4lqmg7hyf1.png?format=webp&quality=lossless&width=360&height=498

[subtle sierra]

Jeong Jeong, the Deserter
Legendary Creature — Human Rebel Ally
Firebending 1
Exhaust — %3: Put a +1/+1 counter on Jeong Jeong. When you next cast a Lesson spell this turn, copy that spell, and you may choose new targets for that copy. (Each exhaust ability can only be activated once.)

[sudden lava]

Another card for lesson old man

https://cards.scryfall.io/large/front/8/7/879b73d3-4552-4fdc-baee-c4d097ae9a4f.jpg?1761666299

[sleek ferry]

This goes nice with interrupter or high noon

[subtle sierra]

probably

[sleek ferry]

Remind me, can cards that have been air bended only be cast at sorcery speed?

[[aang avatar]]

[lost widget]

Multiple cards match “aang avatar”, can you be more specific?

[subtle sierra]

should be normal speed

so if it's instant it's instant

[sudden lava]

It follows normal casting restrictions

[sleek ferry]

Oh yeah so you can legitly just interrupter lock them even easier now

This might get me back into UW control

[subtle sierra]

[[aven interrupter]]

[[aven interrupter]]

[lost widget]

https://scryfall.com/card/otj/4/aven-interrupter

Aven Interrupter <:mana1:292901508373282827><:manaw:1007102126813610074><:manaw:1007102126813610074>

Creature — Bird Rogue
Flash
Flying
When this creature enters, exile target spell. It becomes plotted. (Its owner may cast it as a sorcery on a later turn without paying its mana cost.)
Spells your opponents cast from graveyards or from exile cost more to cast.
2/2

[subtle sierra]

i mean ig

even into like aggro

you t3 aven to stop something

you t4 wipe with the new card over doj

you can either keep aven or let him sit in exile for another plot

like, you could let them cast afterwards and anything you airbent gets costed up

this sounds like a nice combo

might be funny to add like, [[lightstall inquisitor]]

[lost widget]

https://scryfall.com/card/eoe/24/lightstall-inquisitor

Lightstall Inquisitor <:manaw:1007102126813610074>

Creature — Angel Wizard
Vigilance
When this creature enters, each opponent exiles a card from their hand and may play that card for as long as it remains exiled. Each spell cast this way costs more to cast. Each land played this way enters tapped.
Born of dead stars, the Astelli may fight for light, but they know the void as their womb.
2/1

[subtle sierra]

but this isn't a control card, might get some weird uw tempo

god i'm really liking this set

[sleek ferry]

I think you play lightstall regardless. UW’s issue in standard lately has been good 1 drops, and authority doesn’t pressure. A 2/1 attacker that can get chip + block is nice

Not even accounting for the extra eff if they’re forced to exile anything besides a land

[subtle sierra]

ngl i haven't really felt that i need a 1 drop

[sudden lava]

A past Air Nomad Avatar and an uncommon Appa

[sudden lava]

Aang with the power of fish

[copper pecan]

i might run this in yorion brawl

[lusty trench]

There had to be a better frame

This one's blurry as shix

[stark skiff]

Wait Jet died?

[storm elbow]

You know, it was really unclear.

[trail anvil]

||wasn't he killed by the dai li||

[gritty nest]

question for you guys, is [[deafening silence]] stax?

[lost widget]

https://scryfall.com/card/eld/10/deafening-silence

Deafening Silence <:manaw:1007102126813610074>

Enchantment
Each player can't cast more than one noncreature spell each turn.
"They have forsaken their vows. The edict of the Circle demands their voices be silenced." —Syr Tasdale, knight of Ardenvale

[storm elbow]

||they intentionally dont show it on screen but its kind of implied. they later allude to this in the ember island players, where the quote i replied with comes from||

[trail anvil]

o right lol

[glad peak]

deafening silence is a stax piece but also stax isn't really fully accomplished with one card

[fallow citrus]

god this sucks

also wonder if ally tribal will be decent in standard now

probably bant right

[past socket]

Hold up, Dockside?

[glad peak]

maybe that means dockside's coming back as a game changer, right?

[fallow citrus]

I mean

got to help seat 4 somehow

[glad peak]

ban thoracle unban dockside

i too embrace my breach overlords

[fallow citrus]

thoracle can stay too

[past socket]

Probably just something for 60 card? I am unsure

Genuinely hope not. I personally wouldn’t want to reward acting worse than toddlers over a ban

[glad peak]

thoracle staying is fine tbh but pushing red again while nerfing blue would be hilarious

[past socket]

Like not even toddlers having a tanty don’t send fucking death threats over cardboard

[glad peak]

i mean, i've had death threats from people who wanted thoracle banned too

ignored them like any person should

[trail anvil]

??

[trail anvil]

hot damn shrine players are eating so good

[storm elbow]

Is shrine stuff just this set?

[subtle sierra]

aang's journey searches a shrine

[trail anvil]

wym?

[glad peak]

yep, i've had some insane people playing with me over the years wanting random cards banned

[storm elbow]

Is shrine a new subtype or were there cards that supported it before avatar?

[glad peak]

lot of the death threats weren't launched at me, interestingly enough

[subtle sierra]

there's like 18 other older shrines

[storm elbow]

oh right, kamigawa had a few

[copper pecan]

||they confirmed in one of the comics that he died||

||they couldn't show it directly in the show because of the ratings board but he was always intended to have died||

[gritty nest]

Yeah I got told I’d be building stax with deafening silence/propaganda and [[underworld dreams]] effects

[lost widget]

https://scryfall.com/card/thb/121/underworld-dreams

Underworld Dreams <:manab:292901508872273920><:manab:292901508872273920><:manab:292901508872273920>

Enchantment
Whenever an opponent draws a card, this enchantment deals 1 damage to that player.
Dreams are just one more form of torment.

[glad peak]

what's wrong with that?

[gritty nest]

“You’re stopping them from playing the game, it’s not a mild form of stax, it’s just stax.”

[glad peak]

do you know what else stops people from playing the game? winning

show them the meaning of turbo

[gritty nest]

red green aggro?

[glad peak]

nah

even faster

[past socket]

Storm

GO FUCKING GAMBLING

[gritty nest]

t1 stasis kismet grand abolisher tef pro skip 30 billion turns?

[glad peak]

storm would be funny since it wastes everyone's time spinning wheels and can win fast lmao

[past socket]

Show them true fucking game length

[gritty nest]

sad thing is yshtola cant really do storm

[past socket]

Do it for Izzet Jesus

[gritty nest]

the lack of red actually fucking sucks lol

[glad peak]

well i have good news for you

thoracle consult lmao

[gritty nest]

you know what the first thing ill hear is

[glad peak]

yep

[gritty nest]

"thats cedh bullshit"

"dumbass it was turn 11"

[glad peak]

to be fair

literally anything you'll be using to win will be labeled as cedh bullshit

[gritty nest]

mudkip

[glad peak]

because yshtola's being used in cedh rn

[gritty nest]

that was a snippet from an actual conversation

[glad peak]

i know lol

[gritty nest]

turn 11, i had sanguine exquisite combo

[glad peak]

that's nowhere near cedh

[gritty nest]

after everyone played "lets stay in our bubble durhur"

[glad peak]

i wouldn't even put that in bracket 3 ngl

[gritty nest]

i only got hated the entire game because they got tired of a little hobbit bastard jabbing them in the ankle for 1

[[Frodo, Aventurous Hobbit]]

[lost widget]

https://scryfall.com/card/ltc/2/frodo-adventurous-hobbit

Frodo, Adventurous Hobbit <:manaw:1007102126813610074><:manab:292901508872273920>

Legendary Creature — Halfling Scout
Partner with Sam, Loyal Attendant
Vigilance
Whenever Frodo attacks, if you gained 3 or more life this turn, the Ring tempts you. Then if Frodo is your Ring-bearer and the Ring has tempted you two or more times this game, draw a card.
1/3

[glad peak]

yes, yes, bracket 3 doesn't have 2 card infinites but power level wise, i would put it in 2 or lower

it's painfully slow

[gritty nest]

the combo itself is yeah

it just

frustrates me

[gritty nest]

yeah i heard about this

i would prefer not to thoracle people

[glad peak]

a lot of people frustrate me but after a while it gets better

[gritty nest]

mainly because i dont own a thoracle

[glad peak]

have you considered jace wielder of mystery

[gritty nest]

and lab man?

[glad peak]

yep

[copper pecan]

neat

[glad peak]

neat

[copper pecan]

so true oomfie

[gritty nest]

idk, i just think it'll be harder to burn through my deck without things like stormkiln or other mana accelerators. the draw is there but i dont think the ramp is

[glad peak]

good thing you have smothering t and dank ritual and friends

[tardy echo]

Isn’t this actually good

[gritty nest]

rituals yeah, tithe is technically opponent reliant

[tardy echo]

Cute synergy w the zuko

[sudden lava]

Wait this low key kinda fun

[tardy echo]

@twilit canyon is throne the single set with the most banned cards in it

[twilit canyon]

might be one of the urza block sets

but throne is absolutely up there

[atomic harness]

Throne of eldraine = goat
Wilds of eldraine I'm not sure

https://tenor.com/view/limbus-company-limbus-don-quixote-don-yapping-gif-14228003647965206973

[twilit canyon]

wilds is... fine

very solid set

[atomic harness]

How were the adventure cards in comparison from throne to wilds

[tardy echo]

Sigh urza block is cheating

I just randomly remembered that once upon a time got printed

[atomic harness]

Urza is the goat kid

Once upon a time is busted...

[tardy echo]

And somebody decided that those words on that card were okay

[atomic harness]

Sigh I thought it was mirrodin

[tardy echo]

I just remember

Oko/once/sanctuary

And there’s a random card they banned in brawl

Im pretty sure other stuff from the set either is or was banned

[tardy echo]

Wilds printed some good ones

Questing Druid is Satan

[atomic harness]

LEA has to be cheating

[tardy echo]

Alpha is extremely cheating

Half those cards are also banned because they’re racist

Or ante cards

[twilit canyon]

yeah nah the alpha set doesnt count

[steady onyx]

lmao

i suck at mtg

1-4 at pauper tournament

i dont wanna blame on deck obv

but idk how to play faeries

[past socket]

You’ll learn in time I reckon

Always good to reflect and learn from that. And improving general gamesense only comes from play, no matter the TCG

[sudden lava]

As Kuri said, I used to not win any matches at locals but now I do. You will get better with time

[copper pecan]

did a draft of powered cube yesterday

went 6-3 with mono white

there was a bit where my opponent casted [[show and tell]] and i was legit on the edge of my seat waiting to find out if they had emrakul or not

[lost widget]

https://scryfall.com/card/cn2/121/show-and-tell

Show and Tell <:mana2:292901509060886528><:manau:292901508754702338>

Sorcery
Each player may put an artifact, creature, enchantment, or land card from their hand onto the battlefield.
At the academy, "show and tell" too often becomes "run and hide."

[copper pecan]

they didn't and instead they cheated in [[worldspine wurm]] which i then removed with oust

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https://scryfall.com/card/dsc/206/worldspine-wurm

Worldspine Wurm <:mana8:292901508830330880><:manag:292901508654301185><:manag:292901508654301185><:manag:292901508654301185>

Creature — Wurm
Trample
When this creature dies, create three 5/5 green Wurm creature tokens with trample.
When Worldspine Wurm is put into a graveyard from anywhere, shuffle it into its owner's library.
15/15

[copper pecan]

if they did have emrakul i would have lost for sure

[glad peak]

Deck’s hard

I wouldn’t recommend playing tempo in a format you weren’t familiar with but it’s a solid deck to stick to

[steady onyx]

here were my matchups, can you tell me if i am just bad or just rough matchups
r1 - terror
r2- white aggro
r3- bye
r4- mono black artifacts?
r5 - mono white heroics

mono black arti was impossible because they dropped cuombajj witches t2 and i legit coult not out it

obv i played poorly butlike the mono white decks felt rly rough to play against and terror i felt theyt just win if they drew the terrors early whcih they did

and then mono black that stupid card

but idk

maybe im just not seeing how to play better coule toatlly be

[sudden lava]

btw I did villainous commander once

We died to the "Hit everyone once with your commander"

cuz they were on a haste commander that was very cheap

[gritty nest]

https://archidekt.com/decks/17137357 built this, honestly had fun gold fishing it

[atomic harness]

@twilit canyon @fallow citrus the affinity dream real? Mox opal and the izzet drone guy hard carrying I think

Pinnacle yeah

[twilit canyon]

emissary is great yea

and mopal has been really strong for them

[atomic harness]

I'm wonder if I should be on claws of gix munition

[[galvanic blast]]

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https://scryfall.com/card/2xm/125/galvanic-blast

Galvanic Blast <:manar:292901508796645397>

Instant
Galvanic Blast deals 2 damage to any target.
Metalcraft — Galvanic Blast deals 4 damage instead if you control three or more artifacts.
Mirrodin has little weather, but it certainly has lightning.

[atomic harness]

[sudden lava]

AHHH HE'S GONNA KICK MY BUTT

https://tenor.com/view/spongebob-times-old-man-angry-gif-246119578881532216

Iroh gonna hit us with the infinite lesson turns

[glad peak]

Terror and heroic should be fine, white aggro is rough at times and mono black artifacts is definitely the worst

[steady onyx]

terror game felt v winnable, it was just g1 without side was a bit rough as i couldnt really deal with terror and he had a terror t3
g2 i saw relic :)
g3 there was just never a way i could stick a relic we even talked throuhg it after games withopennign hands to see if i played how and eyah and then dropped like 4 serpents and terrors t4/5

heroic was interesting, i kinda just felt like they had more stuff then i could counter maybe i was using my counters wrong but like they drop their creature t1 and then past that point they have all the 1drop enchanements and pro instants and i just cant stop all of it

but idk

[steady onyx]

@glad peak i put together spy comob, do you think thats ok to learn format with/

[glad peak]

I mean learning spy combo is sort of just learning a new game all on its own

[steady onyx]

:p

i like it

ive played it a bit

[tardy echo]

Spy combo is the pauper version of oops right

[steady onyx]

i guess

but i feel it plays a bit more midrangy instead of like full combo

but i dont know the deck that well tbf

[tardy echo]

Im just asking to verify that’s what the deck does right

[steady onyx]

yes

dread return into lolteth

[tardy echo]

Balustrade spy mill your whole deck kill them

[steady onyx]

with spy milling deck

correct

only diff is you run 4,5, or 6 lands in spy while isnt oops 0 land?

[fallow citrus]

yeah oops just isnt a magic deck

[tardy echo]

Yes because oops gets to play mdfcs

[fallow citrus]

I mean spy combo isnt really an mtg deck either

[tardy echo]

Pauper has no such luxury so u play extremely minimal lands and just tutor them

[fallow citrus]

bruh I thought you were solar again

[tardy echo]

I mean most combo decks like that don’t rlly play the same game as anyone else

[tardy echo]

Killing you to death

[fallow citrus]

owie

but yeah mtg combo just isnt real magic

[tardy echo]

Shrug

It’s still pretty cool when it’s not turbo broken

[fallow citrus]

well true

[tardy echo]

I think the lotus field deck in pioneer is fuego

[fallow citrus]

I dont have anything against the decks I quite like them

amulet titan is probably the most mtg combo deck

[tardy echo]

Feel weird calling that combo when it’s just a really fast ramp deck

[fallow citrus]

yeah but it is a combination of cards

[subtle sierra]

🦺

[tardy echo]

I mean yeah but titan wins a lot of games where it doesn’t even get to play amulet

And also again a lot of ramp decks sort of need combinations of cards

[atomic harness]

Sigh this kid doesn't acknowledge titan I'm out

[tardy echo]

???

[atomic harness]

Ruby Storm is a yugioh deck

[tardy echo]

Titan is broken and also fire I just don’t think it’s really a combo deck

[atomic harness]

oh word

Tbh I don't rly know how to classify it either

[tardy echo]

It’s just really good ramp

Doesn’t even need to play mana dorks

[subtle sierra]

there are only two decks in mtg

aggro and control

don't @ me

[tardy echo]

@subtle sierra

[subtle sierra]

me when i say don't @ me and they @ me

[tardy echo]

The deck that kills me is aggro the deck that I kill is control

[tardy echo]

Well ur wrong so clearly its Opposite Day and u wanted to be pinged

[subtle sierra]

it's actually all souls day

[tardy echo]

I never got one of those

[subtle sierra]

it's for dead ppl

guess you're a corpse

[tardy echo]

Can I actually ask what titan does in modern now I’m not hip to the times anymore

Does it just copy lotus field 10000 times

Looked at a list on goldfish and can’t really tell what else is going on

[fallow citrus]

uh yeah p much

then you just slap your opponent

[tardy echo]

The children yearn for the fields…

[steady onyx]

u should play mtg wiht me, i suck and wanna get better but i need to play more

[tardy echo]

Im shocked there’s no equivalent of the weird lotus field combo in modern

[steady onyx]

id play legacy pauper standard

[tardy echo]

I guess the kids are too busy playing affinity

And storm…

[fallow citrus]

cause it kinda sucks outside of pauper

not pauper

pioneer

[atomic harness]

Sigh aeri whatever happened to dark depths thespian stage

[fallow citrus]

it's still playable in legacy

[steady onyx]

OMG I LOVE THATSHIT SO MUCH

but its expensive

well not

[fallow citrus]

not as great but still playable

[steady onyx]

really compared to other decks

[atomic harness]

Naruhodo

[tardy echo]

Well it kinda sucks in pioneer too but I figured there’d be something in modern that helps it

And/or people who just wanna play it in modern

[fallow citrus]

the kids would rather play storm

[tardy echo]

The children only yearn for the fields if they play green…

[fallow citrus]

or goryo's

[steady onyx]

i wanna play lumra combo

but idk how good it is in legacy

ive played it in cedh

[tardy echo]

Isn’t lumra scapeshift like very much a pioneer thing

[steady onyx]

but idk if that translates well to legacy

like if u have realistically any land sac outlet and a land untapper and lumra u go infinite in every which way

idk

maybe thats topo slow for legacy tho

[tardy echo]

Lumra as a card doesn’t translate to legacy

[steady onyx]

ive seen it played as a one of in some decks

[tardy echo]

U might be able to try it in the smallpox deck but I’m pretty sure that’s hogaak turbo

It’s hard to justify playing a green ramp deck and not just playing nadu

[glad peak]

Lumra control is also a thing in Modern but it’s janky af

[sudden lava]

leaked ATLA cards

Including a card from the worst ATLA episode of all time

[glad peak]

The great divide guide huh

Missing what makes dryad so good in Titan but maybe it has uses

[sudden lava]

https://tenor.com/view/lets-keep-flying-atla-avatar-ember-island-aang-gif-14705955

[copper pecan]

tbh i think great divide is overhated

[sleek ferry]

Fire nation palace is pretty nice

[fallow citrus]

great divide guide seems crazy in ally tribal no

plus the earthbending guy that makes extra mana

[steady onyx]

great divide guide seems good yes

[glad peak]

Oh I didn’t know that was a hated episode lol

I just thought it was a neat card

[lusty trench]

Honestly i disliked the swamp episode more

[subtle sierra]

it wasn't my favorite but at least it pushed the plot

i can't really think of an episode that doesn't push either the plot or give character development besides the great divide one

i might be misremembering

[lusty trench]

The dam one?

I know people are iffy on that because its a katara episode and her prioritising her own need to set things right over the wider mission (god forbid a character have flaws)

[subtle sierra]

eh it sets up jet as a character

[lusty trench]

Im talking about the one with the village on the water on like rafts

[subtle sierra]

oh that one

[lusty trench]

I forgot if it was a dam or factory

[subtle sierra]

factory

[lusty trench]

Ahhh

[subtle sierra]

yeah that one too

[lusty trench]

Its just kinda filler

Like sokkas mentor

[subtle sierra]

i'm not saying i dislike dislike them, i just dislike filler

[lusty trench]

Sokkas mentor gets a pass cause its sokka tho

[subtle sierra]

sokka's mentor sets up piandao and sokka gets martial prowess

[lusty trench]

He doesnt really use it though

I think he used the sword once and then threw it or used it as a way to hold onto something

[broken fjord]

He used it in the finale

[lusty trench]

Right but like, so so briefly

[sudden lava]

official site leaked a reprint

[copper pecan]

honestly shout out to [[mana tithe]]

[lost widget]

https://scryfall.com/card/tsr/26/mana-tithe

Mana Tithe <:manaw:1007102126813610074>

Instant
Counter target spell unless its controller pays .
"Those who seek to upset the balance must be taxed for such ambitions." —Verithain, mesa high priest

[copper pecan]

i'm kinda glad there are so few cards like this because if there were more people would play around it which would make it a lot weaker

the fact that there are so few white counterspells means that people always get caught off guard when they play into it

[tardy echo]

What land is that

[stark skiff]

They’re thinking City of Brass

[tardy echo]

Would actually be a pretty good reprint

Art is neat

[steady onyx]

are there small changes I could make to make a bit better, it feels like its just getting beat by better quality decks

like mono white is just fucking me up

and anyt deck with white tbf

like if they opened shelterred or i dont open nemesis

game feels unplayable

[sleek ferry]

That demonic consultation is so funny, I need it

[gritty nest]

Could also be the vesuva land with that “land of 1000 lands” line maybe?

[sudden lava]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/G4zXrhlbwAA9e8V?format=jpg&name=medium

[glad peak]

I remember playing in a draft pod of dads

Great time

[subtle sierra]

this was in the leak adam...

[glad peak]

Thank you Jesus

[trail anvil]

not everyone looks at leaks smh

[glad peak]

I just wanted to say thank you Jesus

[copper pecan]

what if they were called the order of the black lotus and instead of playing pai sho they played magic the gathering

[fallow citrus]

then they would get 3 mana of one colour

[copper pecan]

they would make gamer tokens instead of allies

[sleek ferry]

Thank you Based God Jesus

[sudden lava]

Ember Island Performance

Sorcery. Uncommon

3UU

Choose one,

Create a token that a copy of target creature you control, except it’s not a legendary and a 4/4 Hero in addition to it’s other types.

Create a token that a copy of target creature an opponent controls, except it’s not a legendary and a 2/2 Coward in addition to its other types.

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/579106856400846861/1434925069871612004/tla-ember-island-performance-v0-2ol6mgb932zf1.webp?ex=690a199c&is=6908c81c&hm=3a57f348e99ddece4ee741f3965b5224edd80d07451efd654958638f061543b2&=&format=webp&width=360&height=503

[stark skiff]

Good call. Here’s the full list:

Altar of the Brood
Brain Freeze
Crop Rotation
Demonic Consultation
Eerie Ultimatum
Field of the Dead
Gray Merchant of Asphodel
Hymn to Tourach
Isochron Scepter
Junji, the Midnight Sky
Krark-Clan Ironworks
Llanowar Elves
Myrel, Shield of Argive
Narset's Reversal
Ob Nixilis, the Fallen
Phyrexian Altar
Questing Beast
Retrofitter Foundry
Sol Ring
Temple of the False God
Urza's Saga
Vesuva
Wasteland
Xantcha, Sleeper Adept
Yarok, the Desecrated
Zo-Zu the Punisher

[gritty nest]

ngl

i misread KCI as "Clank Clan Ironworks"

G should have been [[Gray Merchant of Alphabet]] for the joke

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https://scryfall.com/card/unf/75/gray-merchant-of-alphabet

Gray Merchant of Alphabet <:mana3:292901508771610624><:manab:292901508872273920><:manab:292901508872273920>

Creature — Zombie Performer
When this creature enters, choose a letter. For each creature you control that has the chosen letter in its name, you gain 1 life and each opponent loses 1 life.
Like any young zombie, Gary dreamed of escaping the underworld to join the circus.
2/4

[fallow citrus]

yaaaaaaaaaaaaaawn

[tardy echo]

The eerie art is fire

[atomic harness]

This being $200 makes me angry

Oreo was crashing out and wanted to buy it

[fallow citrus]

it's so mid

but then again it is a secret lair

[trail anvil]

jesus christ this is an uncommon?

I adore the flavor on it, but 2 copies alone feels like it should be a lot more than an uncommon

[lusty trench]

https://tenor.com/view/wtf-what-the-fuck-the-fuck-is-this-wth-gif-17571836

[hidden ermine]

That seems quite strong

[golden plover]

That's fucking crazy for 2 mana

[subtle sierra]

Hello control player here what the fuck

[golden plover]

This also just nukes affinity and anything combo, yeah?

[trail anvil]

[[kambal, consul of]]

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https://scryfall.com/card/2x2/237/kambal-consul-of-allocation

Kambal, Consul of Allocation <:mana1:292901508373282827><:manaw:1007102126813610074><:manab:292901508872273920>

Legendary Creature — Human Advisor
Whenever an opponent casts a noncreature spell, that player loses 2 life and you gain 2 life.
He has "friends" in places both high and low, and all seem to owe him favors.
2/3

[trail anvil]

well shit

first strike too on her

[golden plover]

It's like Black Thalia

Which... Might be better than regular Thalia in some matchups

[sleek ferry]

sigh i missed out on the ghosts of tsushima secret lair

[stark skiff]

😭

[sleek ferry]

this is REALLY good, especially in draft

[sleek ferry]

@twilit canyon high key, is this first pick worthy?

[twilit canyon]

etb mill and an easy attack cond? hmmm maybe

a lot of rares and mythics this set so far seem kind of just ok

[sleek ferry]

you got flexibility to go into either color, it's well statted, and its condition to be able to attack is not a real restriction in this set

[atomic harness]

my first pick is Mai kid

[subtle sierra]

was already posted

[subtle sierra]

.

[gritty nest]

ibuilt a deck i genuienly have a lot of fun with

[glad peak]

Huh

Guess lumra has a lesson to teach

[tardy echo]

This one actually reads pretty good in formats w fetches

[glad peak]

Wait [[realms uncharted]]

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https://scryfall.com/card/roe/206/realms-uncharted

Realms Uncharted <:mana2:292901509060886528><:manag:292901508654301185>

Instant
Search your library for up to four land cards with different names and reveal them. An opponent chooses two of those cards. Put the chosen cards into your graveyard and the rest into your hand. Then shuffle.

[tardy echo]

Nevermind

[glad peak]

Guess lumra will not be teaching us anything

[sudden lava]

thats a lot of keywords for 1 mana

[fallow citrus]

snakeskin veil on crack holy

[sudden lava]

You can still bolt the creature with it on the stack tho

[glad peak]

Well yeah

[fallow citrus]

yeah you can do that with snakeskin veil too lol

[glad peak]

That’s sort of the point

[sudden lava]

Aeri it's a joke

[twilit canyon]

not a very good one

[twilit canyon]

being a lesson does make it very telegraphed at least in comparison and the first strike lifelink and flying are very awkward to grab in comparison since those are aggressive keywords

[fallow citrus]

yeah true

[glad peak]

Using it while blocking is very strong but yeah flying is awkward

[fallow citrus]

and I don't think mono green would splash white for it in standard

[glad peak]

I know at least one person who would because they want to gain tons of life after killing the opponent lol

[sudden lava]

https://youtu.be/bnwLIdisr_Y?t=267
Azula paid a red

[fallow citrus]

actually fuck I just realised this card exists to make that mono white lifegain deck even more annoying

[zinc shard]

Oh they reused a setpiece

[sudden lava]

It's referencing the same episode

Like how we already have 2 cards referencing ember island players

[twilit canyon]

?

this still doesnt make it funny

get normal

and quick

[sudden lava]

It's the exact scene the card is depicting.
It's a joke similar to the Sephiroth Aerith

[subtle sierra]

no one got the reference because the "joke" wasn't really a joke
the joke if you could call it that wasn't funny
all ppl in chat hated it and you're still on it

move on

jesus

[twilit canyon]

jesus
-jesus

[zinc shard]

Anyways

[subtle sierra]

cute reference wise, kinda poop otherwise

i really like the redrawn scenes in this set

[twilit canyon]

3 mana for this effect and it doesnt even haste

[subtle sierra]

they could have just slapped land creatures you control have haste or w/e

but it might not fit the flavour much

the way i see it it's aang being happy he learned earthbending (drawing a card), and the exhaust is him learning the hard way

idk

[sudden lava]

"All people in chat" is stretching the definition of all. I was merely explaining it's a reference to Aeri (who merely said "yeah you can do that with snakeskin veil too lol" and then Bio got on my back so I posted the actual scene.
And you replying this to me just extended the conversation further.
Can we just be chill

[subtle sierra]

and yet, you further the convo further with this ping

so here we go

by all ppl, i meant that every single person that responded didn't get it's a joke because it wasn't even a joke

if you went like "you can still shock the target on stack, azula sure did :)" or whatever it's still unfunny but at least it's both clearly a joke and gives you the reference

if you just write random obvious shit people will not get you

it's not the first time ppl don't get you and tell you to think before you type, or similar stuff along the lines, because it's often very frustrating to interact with you

i would take 3 ppl in chat obviously confused about something you wrote as a sign that you need to self improve on that front

and it happens often, so i'm not sure how this doesn't raise red flags for you

[sudden lava]

If I said lightning strike instead?

[twilit canyon]

[subtle sierra]

you really didn't get the point did you

[glad peak]

It sounded like you were just saying an obvious interaction buuuuuuuut let’s move on

[subtle sierra]

yeah exactly, but yeah lets move on

[sudden lava]

It was supposed to be a if ya know, can we please just be chill. I don't want to talk about this.

https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/1ehB18d4wW0wEOcn0x1yK9iqNuv1mq7zl_bMn0QCPMk/https/i.redd.it/2gpyf5ema2zf1.jpeg?format=webp&width=578&height=809

Imprisoned in the moon reprint

[glad peak]

https://tenor.com/view/my-first-girlfriend-turned-into-the-moon-thats-rough-that-rough-buddy-avatar-avatar-the-last-airbender-gif-5710468

[sudden lava]

Mudkip predicting my mind 💖

[storm elbow]

god these show screenshots look really bad lmao

[gritty nest]

still looks better than the spider-man set

[glad peak]

Hopefully there’s a card of “that’s rough buddy” which is a reprint of Thoughtseize

[sudden lava]

omg yes print a that's rough buddy card!

Gotta print all the memes from current UB in sets

[subtle sierra]

i was thinking of moving from azorius control to dimir control in standard, but i'm really missing something with this i can't quite put my finger on. Does anyone know what's wrong with this, i just feel like sometimes the deck comes up lacking. ignore the lands just smth random i slapped in, and hearless is cause it's legal in like 3 weeks

i also keep both dropping and readding stock up

[glad peak]

I want to say that’s rough buddy every time I thoughtseize, perfect card to have that art

[subtle sierra]

that'd be funny but if it just a screenshot i'm with guy that these look bad

[subtle sierra]

if they redrew the scene like they did in this one it'd be charming i think

[sudden lava]

I can see it being flavor text on a card referencing the scene

Not sure what I'd name the card itself, but I can see it.

Hoping this equipment is as cool as it looked in the show. Sokka's Boomerang wasn't that impressive in card form

[stark skiff]

nah the spm ones are great. these look horrible since theyre 1 for 1 pixels

and im excited for this set but these screengrabs are horrible

[zinc shard]

I present: Clanker.dek

[subtle sierra]

uhhhhhhhhhh

2 mana

what

we have [[glimpse the core]] but it's forest only

[lost widget]

https://scryfall.com/card/lci/186/glimpse-the-core

Glimpse the Core <:mana1:292901508373282827><:manag:292901508654301185>

Sorcery
Choose one —
• Search your library for a basic Forest card, put that card onto the battlefield tapped, then shuffle.
• Return target Cave card from your graveyard to the battlefield tapped.
"Wow. It's a good thing we brought a poet." —Wayta

[subtle sierra]

oh my friend reminded me rampant growth exists

[glad peak]

Have you forsaken [[farseek]]

[lost widget]

https://scryfall.com/card/eoc/50/farseek

Farseek <:mana1:292901508373282827><:manag:292901508654301185>

Sorcery
Search your library for a Plains, Island, Swamp, or Mountain card, put it onto the battlefield tapped, then shuffle.
Eumidians live to change and be changed, ever increasing the complexity of the Edge. Each new world is a new perspective.

[glad peak]

Everything BUT forest

[subtle sierra]

i'm a standard boy and am quite clueless on older formats

unless i actually played them when they were standard, but i haven't played many

[glad peak]

Jesus is indeed the standard

[subtle sierra]

this nickname has generated more jokes than my other nicknames combined already

[sudden lava]

BOSCO

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1371350916242079805/1435028609642533076/20251103_141020.jpg?ex=690a7a0a&is=6909288a&hm=d6f5c97aa8b4ab9fb99b2cb6596115b2ed78703ee5c38a187e75a1318528af3c&=&format=webp&width=579&height=809

[zinc shard]

damn, 4 mana 6/6 that ramps you

[sudden lava]

not even legendary bear, just bear

[sudden lava]

Swamp benders benefiting from swamps is 10/10 design

[subtle sierra]

hmm never knew mtg has threatening roar

i really have missed a lot by not knowing old cards

[subtle sierra]

uh with this wording can you pick one more than once?

i expect not but

if you have many lessons it might have been cute

[hidden ermine]

You cannot

It has to say you can choose each mode more than once, else you cant

[glad peak]

when is bloodthirst coming back

[sudden lava]

Interesting card for Lotus deck

[sudden lava]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1371350916242079805/1435035982255751350/image.png?ex=690a80e7&is=69092f67&hm=2c89389447b57d779080ae5176adc8bb1fdc9af92b4f66f5b97a0a7767f0d0f6&=&format=webp&quality=lossless&width=587&height=809

[zinc shard]

I love the flavor of this

[glad peak]

mmm cardboard flavor

[subtle sierra]

mono green reanimator

attach to a creature that sacs itself

sac it, mill something broken, bring it back

[glad peak]

And you say you haven’t played older formats

[subtle sierra]

wdym

was there a thing called mono green reanimator?

lmao

[glad peak]

Nah but green has had similar play patterns like you were suggesting

Especially in old old format

[subtle sierra]

ah ic

well tbf it's quite obvious

so even if it's the first time i see this it's pretty simple

[last glen]

imprisoned in the moon
does not depict the moon
0/10

[sleek ferry]

Never seen a more lumra card than this

[sudden lava]

https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/CoELZjp_wTKNczXS20GLKTYf7gzDwgYe0_SfTx1-0F8/https/i.redd.it/v8f07wh0l4zf1.jpeg?format=webp&width=579&height=809

[sudden lava]

Tbf she is about to become the moon

[copper pecan]

shared roots is gonna be insane once secrets of strixhaven brings back learn and then all of the sudden we now have extra deck rampant growth

[sudden lava]

https://i.redd.it/k2grl3rfl4zf1.jpeg

[steady onyx]

i thoufght the exact same thing

its liek realsm uncharte

[stark skiff]

Oh this is hot

[stark skiff]

50 charge counters challenge accepted

[zinc shard]

Aetherflame Reservoir

[glad peak]

i can't wait for a ton of people to think they can use firebending mana on main 2

and then get blown out because that was their entire plan

[sleek ferry]

Just play Esper control

I can’t tell if this is really good or bait in constructed

[glad peak]

These effects are only really good if you can do it all in one turn or have some way to get huge advantage off it for cheap

Pyromancer’s ascension is a lot easier to proc and easier to get value, I’m not sure what triggers you’d want to double

[sleek ferry]

I’m assuming here t1 hired claw, t2 ascension attack with hired claw 1 quest counter t3 tersa, attack with all 3, 4 quest counters, trigger hired claw twice, token twice

[steady onyx]

i mean like

sure?

t3 you can only trigger hired claw or token twice no?

because one will only be 3rd quest

and last wil be 4th quest

as I said to me it feels like this card is just worse then the 2 drops u have access to rn

like i would much rather drop a challenger or show off then this

but also as I said if there is a deck that plays more around this firebending stuff from avatar and u want like t4 to get 20 mana off some firebending shit sure be my guest

but idk if theres gonna be a deck like that rn

but i get what ur saying

[sleek ferry]

Don’t the quest counters go on first then it checks after all the quest counters have been put on for the double triggers?

[steady onyx]

idk dont ask me

maybe?

like the stack is
dec hired claw and token
firebreathing goes on stack then this goes on stack above thast then hired claw then this on stack above that stack resolves u put counter checks only 3 counters hired claw resolves then the next one resolves checks has 4 counters doubles firebreathing or whatever

[steady onyx]

@sleek ferry https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K-k3y0ctclo
IT GOT SECOND

I WANNA PLAY THIS DECK SO BAD

😭

ITS SO FUCKING SICK

[stark skiff]

Some latest buys for @atomic harness

[steady onyx]

smexy

[sudden lava]

btw one upside if they decide to implement the new hybrid mana change

The companions (besides the deer) have hybrid cost

[tardy echo]

@twilit canyon out of curiosity I was looking thru all the land cards that have been banned

Do u know when and why some of these were ever banned

Mostly hammerheim/tolaria

And urborg

Was removing landwalk that crazy

[twilit canyon]

uhh legends...?

it'd be entirely that yeah

games would basically get to stall endlessly without landwalk

[tardy echo]

So they just banned them?

[twilit canyon]

creatures were so dogshit

[tardy echo]

Vaguely aware

I just think it’s funny to see like

Tolaria sitting between tolaria west and tabernacle

Also what format was tabernacle actually banned in I’m p sure it’s still legacy legal

[twilit canyon]

tabernacle is not banned in legacy

iirc it was banned in extended

[tardy echo]

Interesting

Didn’t realize the scryfall filter checked for extended

Also aware that faceless haven was banned in standard but not actually why

[twilit canyon]

the snow payoffs were too good in standard too

[tardy echo]

Oh word

Was it just aggro

[twilit canyon]

more or less

red aggro

[fallow citrus]

[[breath weapon]]

[lost widget]

https://scryfall.com/card/clb/165/breath-weapon

Breath Weapon <:mana2:292901509060886528><:manar:292901508796645397>

Instant
Breath Weapon deals 2 damage to each non-Dragon creature.
"In the name of Tempus, Lord of Battles, you will die honorably in righteous fire."

[fallow citrus]

oh well not a good comparison it's just a modal [[end the festivities]]

[lost widget]

https://scryfall.com/card/vow/155/end-the-festivities

End the Festivities <:manar:292901508796645397>

Sorcery
End the Festivities deals 1 damage to each opponent and each creature and planeswalker they control.
When the defenses around Lurenbraum Fortress faltered, the Crimson Ballroom received some unexpected guests.

[atomic harness]

I love ETF

[glad peak]

Welp someone I know’s talking about how pioneer is the best it’s ever been

I kinda feel bad for him until you realize the only reason he likes it is because it’s the only place where his standard banned mono red deck (with the mice) are top tier

[atomic harness]

Nice dead format son

[glad peak]

He showed me a challenge result where top 8 was 6 different decks, which was another reasoning of his

I look inside

4 midrange slog decks, 2 greasefang 2 mice

Yeah I’m not touching that

[fallow citrus]

greasefang is pioneer's version of amulet

it just exists forever

[subtle sierra]

holy

oh sorcery

ignore me i cannot read

[glad peak]

Jesus said holy

🙏

[subtle sierra]

🙏

[copper pecan]

zamn

[atomic harness]

https://www.reddit.com/r/MagicArena/comments/1onh9n7/tle_clone_legion_clone/

[atomic harness]

Valley floodcaller

[glad peak]

Oh that is so good in limited

[stark skiff]

https://tenor.com/view/the-rock-if-you-smell-what-the-rock-is-cookin-wwe-smack-down-gif-12397215

[steady onyx]

BRO MICE ARE THE GOAT

also idk but the currend rdw in standard feels so bad

[glad peak]

No mice are the mice, goats are the goat

[steady onyx]

idk man

[glad peak]

One of the best decks in standard feels bad?

[steady onyx]

unless u specifically open nemesis and ca turn off lifegain t4 idk man

like mono white cooks u

contorl cooks u

idk

[fallow citrus]

thoughts
https://x.com/Mengu09/status/1985705889630679532?t=sAGFydFePazpibTGyUSrlw&s=19

Andrea Mengucci (@Mengu09)

My Banlist prediction for next week is that they won’t ban/unban anything in Modern or Legacy (too close to EU RC & EU EW and the formats aren’t broken that any emergency ban is needed). In Standard I foresee a ban of Proft and Vivi but can see also Floodmaw going. #mtg

X · Nov 4, 2025, 1:49 PM

[steady onyx]

FLOODMAW??

WHAT

[fallow citrus]

as this reply explains

https://x.com/ricklongomtg/status/1985709958764151119?t=CAlwIo2VlNnn984osv9UbA&s=19

Rick Longo (@ricklongomtg)

@MTG_Tommy_T @Mengu09 It's a one-mana instant-speed way to get rid of any counterplay against broken stuff (Rest in Peace, High Noon, etc).

X · Nov 4, 2025, 2:05 PM

so in vivi you can just bounce RIP in their end step then just win for one mana

[copper pecan]

i really, really doubt they're gonna ban floodmaw

that is clearly not the problematic card

if they ban anything it's gonna be vivi and/or cauldron

[fallow citrus]

I don't think they will either

[subtle sierra]

My personal theory is that if alchemy vivi is nerfed, vivi is eating shit

[sleek ferry]

They’ll ban Vivi, Cauldron, Proft and extremely outside chance they ban Curiosity/Screaming Nemesis

Cauldron is too risky of a card to be kept around if the change from 2 to 3 year standard was a last minute move

And Curiosity is just an insane card that completely runs away with games off just 1 trigger

[fallow citrus]

nemesis being banned would make me happy

[sudden lava]

Chance of Ember Island Players being a creature just drastically decreased.
But hell yeah The Boulder is in!

[tardy echo]

Divide by zero for 1 mana

[tardy echo]

Good thing mono white is horrible dogshit in a format dominated by Vivi

And also it’s literally just sheltered by ghosts

[golden plover]

Floodmaw getting banned would be fine ngl

But the real hits should be:
-Vivi
-Maybe Cauldron
-Proft's
-Maybe Nemesis (fuck that guy)
-Maybe Curiosity

[copper pecan]

can't believe they would make a charlie kirk magic card

[sleek ferry]

There’s a joke to be made here and I will not make it

[subtle sierra]

Uhhh no way you're comparing it to divide by zero

Divide can return spells

[tardy echo]

If it was an instant for 1 mana that would be more than enough of a downgrade idk

[subtle sierra]

Wut

[tardy echo]

Am I forgetting what divide does

[subtle sierra]

Yes

Return spell or permanent with 1+ mana cost, learn

Instant

[tardy echo]

Bounce spell learn (draw card)

[subtle sierra]

Boomerang can't bounce spells, divide can, that's an incredibly significant difference

Cause divide is essentially a counter spell that draws

[tardy echo]

I guess

[subtle sierra]

For 3

While also being flexible into already landed permanents

[tardy echo]

But there also isn’t a good comparison for instant bounce anything draw a card because that would be cracked

For 1b

[subtle sierra]

I mean sure, that's why i had that reaction before reading it's a sorcery

[tardy echo]

That’s what I was commenting on

[subtle sierra]

Ye but comparing it to divide is very wrong imo

[tardy echo]

I half forgot what divide does but the point is also to draw comparison to something absurd because of how absurd the card would be

[fallow citrus]

this makes me really want to play ally tribal ngl

[copper pecan]

did we never find out combustion man's name

[subtle sierra]

Quick look at the wiki says no

[tardy echo]

Sparky sparky boom man

[zinc shard]

Secret Lair: One with the Elements

Secret Lair: Everything Changed

Secret Lair: Alot to Learn

Secret Lair: Ember Island Players

And bonus for spending $200+

[last glen]

These people made a Zutara card

[fallow citrus]

these actually look really good

[subtle sierra]

Like i said

Redrawn shit looks dope

[atomic harness]

screenshots = noob
redraw = goat

[steady onyx]

ok these lairs slaps

[zinc shard]

ok they revealed a lot of TLE cards

2 of these cards are included in every Commander Bundle

[fallow citrus]

oh these are all commander cards

[steady onyx]

yes

[sleek ferry]

I thought the fan was jumpstart?

[subtle sierra]

yes

still, not standard legal

that's all i care

[fallow citrus]

hmm

which ally cards are actually standard playable

[steady onyx]

:p

[sleek ferry]

Realistically between the actual set, jumpstart and commander decks, it looks like ATLA is getting 500-600 cards, which is kinda insane

[fallow citrus]

if only we had aether vials so we could do diet humans

like we have thalia's lieutenant being printed so surely the type isn't bad

[subtle sierra]

https://scryfall.com/search?as=grid&order=name&q=type%3Aally+(game%3Apaper)+set%3Atla

[fallow citrus]

i more mean like

which ones aren't dogass

[subtle sierra]

that i don't know

[steady onyx]

momo?

but idk if he works in standard rn

[subtle sierra]

blue ty lee is cute but she's not ally tribal really

[fallow citrus]

we're clearly in gw+

[steady onyx]

ok

sokka lmao

[fallow citrus]

plus flashing aang in is great

[subtle sierra]

zookeeper is interesting

[steady onyx]

sokka is cray cray

[sleek ferry]

Aang Swift Savior is basically Interrupter

[steady onyx]

wait nvm sokka is cheeks

just read the power toughness

:p

[fallow citrus]

I think ty lee is a sideboard card

into aggro etc

[subtle sierra]

ye

she's one of those blue enchantments that fake delete a guy, but is a body with prowess

[fallow citrus]

this reminds me of that uhh

card from dmu? that protected humans

[sleek ferry]

You’re almost surely in bant

[steady onyx]

DID I HEAR BANT

BANT CAGE?

[fallow citrus]

yeah absolutely in bant lol

[sleek ferry]

And then this set is only going to scale up with the missing shocks in Lorwyn and the lesson searchers in strixhaven

[steady onyx]

lesson board time?

[fallow citrus]

I wish this wasn't 5 mana

there's definitely a good enough shell here

[steady onyx]

isnt this still eve a bit rough at like 4?

idk

this card reads bad but idk

[sleek ferry]

Yeah this is w.e

[fallow citrus]

I think this would be ok at 3 mana

and even then it wouldn't be amazing

[steady onyx]

yeah

3 mana maybe

[fallow citrus]

but at the core you want the anthems + lieutenant and aang

[steady onyx]

we arent getting decks or no?

[sudden lava]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1371350916242079805/1435333623627911178/image.png?ex=690b961b&is=690a449b&hm=20f003e4ef4bb39d52acc2c9d190e7fbe2bb1e7bdd43c75e5f8dfdd2e9f5131e&=&format=webp&quality=lossless&width=893&height=617

Good we got Nyla on his own to

[storm elbow]

I like the flavour on this

[hidden ermine]

Yeah its quite nice