#Magic the Gathering

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steady onyx
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elves is mythic

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lol

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i didnt know

subtle sierra
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it isn't

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this site is dogshit

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arena uses the lowest available rarity on arena

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elves are common

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and iirc you start with 4 or smth

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[[railway brawler]]

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subtle sierra
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[[devastating onslaught]]

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subtle sierra
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this looks playable-ish with a new account, you just need to make a few cuts

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it won't be as consistent but if you wanna just check if you like the playstyle it's fine

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you could do like 3 onslaught 1 brawler, add more brawler if you open 5 mythics, and a 4th onslaught if you luck out with 6

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idk if quantum is that important here

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he just sounds like a draw 1

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cause trailblazer already draws

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for rares you can do 3 outcaster 3 battlecrier 1 winternight 1 smugglers, then make more esper/winternight if you open more rares

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that's how i approach building with a new account

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and believe me i did that a lot lol

subtle sierra
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brother you need to cast it

copper pecan
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[[bringer of the last gift]]

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copper pecan
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lol

subtle sierra
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this is like the only reason this card is even viable now is cause the new spiderman enters as a copy but is actually cast

trail anvil
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it turns out, reading the card

fallow citrus
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I like when you have get lost and they only have ardyn to give them haste so you just stop their turn doing anything

subtle sierra
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i like when i have rest in peace

fallow citrus
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well yeah

fallow citrus
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just played against the weirdest deck ever

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abzan outrageous robbery control

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just decked me out by playing them for insane mana costs when I didn't have any counters up

twilit canyon
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why abzan

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wtf

fallow citrus
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no fucking idea

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they were doing nothing so I just had to start slapping creatures down and I think they played the white just for DoJ

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was very annoying to play against though because I only have 8 creatures and 2 anchorage (thanks wildcards)

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so I just couldn't put the damage on to kill them

past socket
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Did you get robbed of that game?

fallow citrus
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I would feel bad even saying that's an UNOvven joke

sleek ferry
twilit canyon
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why

past socket
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I will embrace the corniness of that joke

sleek ferry
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Abzan just had the best overall control answers for the robbery deck when I built it , since you can play stuff like cease/desist, all 3 of the good overlords, beanstalk at the time

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Nowadays I wouldn’t touch the deck without beanstalk

twilit canyon
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interesting logic. i dont think i agree but i can see why it would look like that and yeah ig u do get the 3 best overlords

steady onyx
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it looks CLEAN

twilit canyon
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why would i need to hear you out tho

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we all know vivi is dying in a few weeks

steady onyx
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idk man

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im jsut dissapointed in myself big time after rcq

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and need some drugs (aka bad decklists)

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to feel better

twilit canyon
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shrug it off

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its just an rcq

steady onyx
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well yeah i know

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like i just wish i played better, idrc not winning topping whatever

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i just feel like i owed myself better

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:P

twilit canyon
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thats different of course

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tho i think if anything, just focus on your play

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dont worry about the bad decks

steady onyx
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i just think i had a bad idea of how my deck played

twilit canyon
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huh

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in what way?

steady onyx
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i think i was playing the deck to controlly when at the end of the day my list leaned def a bit more aggro, and i thik its reasonable for me to trade creatures 1v1 v most decks

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i wasnt attacking enouhg i think

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and like rying to pray on a drawn ouroboid to win me the game

twilit canyon
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mmm

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a common mistake for midrange

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and i can see the logic too cus u expected a lot into control

steady onyx
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yeah

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so i felt like i had to paly slower but like into non controlly decks i trade super well into them and like genemorph is a hell of a card

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like holy shit that cards insane

twilit canyon
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for sure

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i think the thing to focus for midrange

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is play it as aggressive as possible

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even when logic dictates you shouldnt

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play it this way for a while

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and then come back to reel back

steady onyx
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yeah, i played a couple games after with some friends who play midrange a lot more then i do

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and they helped me thru just tlaking more how to play deck on a big level

twilit canyon
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knowing when to be proactive with midrange makes a ton of sense

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and thats something u pick up with more exp

steady onyx
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but i think i get the gist now and will play more

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one other thing was they were all like WTF BRO U ON LIKE 2 RTMEOVAL SPELLS TF SONGKASNO

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but idk i likethe lsit so prob not gonna change

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flood maw feels shit into control because aintno way im bouncing beza shiko marang any of them and like its only there to bounce the starcage so meh

twilit canyon
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just 2 removal spells is fine

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ultimately

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yeah

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i wouldnt worry too much

steady onyx
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yeah imma just keep list same and play it more to practice

twilit canyon
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tho again, more exp with midrange, even if the simic lists are more aggressive than usual midrange, will only benefit u long term

steady onyx
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yes yes yes

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rdw won btw

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with dimir second

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:p

twilit canyon
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rdw is just too good into vivi

steady onyx
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we had 0 vivi whihc was funny lol

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i think iirc
esper midrange
dimir midrange
simic midrange
golgari midrange
4c control
Jeskai control
UB control
rabbits aggro
rda
the spellsplitter combo based shit

sleek ferry
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Hold up lmfaooo

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Vivi really ended with 0 major wins

twilit canyon
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problem deck

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still fraudulent

sleek ferry
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Vivi is truly the Maliss equivalent

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Always the bridesmaid, never the bride

rigid scarab
subtle sierra
zinc shard
steady onyx
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the doppelgang

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the assualt

subtle sierra
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It's a combo deck that shits itself when it sees either aggro or control

sleek ferry
zinc shard
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Alchemy rebalance

fallow citrus
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I think the rebalance should be just not printing it again

golden plover
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That's how it should've been from the fucking start smh

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Also probably still a mana too cheap

zinc shard
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also Meathook Massacre and Fires of Invention have been reverted

twilit canyon
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oh nice

copper pecan
copper pecan
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yo wait they nerfed [[waystone's guidance]]

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copper pecan
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nice

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that was probably the strongest card in alchemy so it getting nerfed is a big deal

atomic harness
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(I don't know what mobilize does icant)

copper pecan
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[[voice of victory]]

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atomic harness
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Oh right!

copper pecan
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mobilize 2 is really strong

atomic harness
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the cedh card

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What did they change?

copper pecan
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now it gives mobilize 1

subtle sierra
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cause it both pressures in the mirror and most control is blue so it baits counters

atomic harness
tardy echo
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Kind of a 2 mana 3/3 icant

sleek ferry
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They should bring back my boy to standard

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[[robber of the rich]]

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steady onyx
sleek ferry
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Well sure, but fun doesn’t = good sadly

steady onyx
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bro imagine

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btu like

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:(

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what temur were u palying

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i know u were trying out temur smt

sleek ferry
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I’m on a cope Temur battlecrier combo deck

steady onyx
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its good

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?

sudden lava
sleek ferry
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But I’m also not playing ranked right now, since I’m waiting for avatar/the banlist to hit

sudden lava
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New reprint

steady onyx
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show me

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i wanna try them out

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proxied

fallow citrus
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i hate screenshots as card art they look so ass in every tcg

steady onyx
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really?

sleek ferry
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I’ve been telling everybody, I think Avatar’s power level is going to be pretty up there as far as standard sets go

steady onyx
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idk i disagree with u

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personally i love those arts

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but idk

sleek ferry
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I agree with Aeri, but the bonus sheet screenshot arts are literally meant to appeal to fans of the IP

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So in that sense they’re fine

fallow citrus
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yeah I get that

fallow citrus
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I just think it's the epitome of laziness for one

steady onyx
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i just think like cinematic art is cool

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idk

fallow citrus
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but also they often just look kinda fuzzy?

steady onyx
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like i really like a[[prismatic bridge]]

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Legendary Creature — God
Vigilance
manat: Add one mana of any color.
Other legendary creatures you control have vigilance and "manat: Add one mana of any color."
"I know this world, from canopy to roots."
1/4

The Prismatic Bridge manawmanaumanabmanarmanag
Legendary Enchantment
At the beginning of your upkeep, reveal cards from the top of your library until you reveal a creature or planeswalker card. Put that card onto the battlefield and the rest on the bottom of your library in a random order.
Starnheim awaits.

steady onyx
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because of the art

fallow citrus
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like they've been scaled down to fit the card art and you can just tell

sudden lava
fallow citrus
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ok?

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weirdly passive aggressive response

sudden lava
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I would say, this one looks better (I dont like screenshot art either) at least

sleek ferry
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Yeah ofc I get it. But as far as they go, since they’re part of the bonus sheet and don’t cut into actual alt arts in the set, they’re fine for that (also has been letting them pop out more reprints so there’s that also)

sudden lava
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yeah at least it gives more reprints

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but they can also do that without screenshots

fallow citrus
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the only upside is they put the cards in arena

sudden lava
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Avatar gonna be on Arena as is, or UW art?

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Like are we gonna get Peach Fleem

tardy echo
fallow citrus
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there has to be some upside

subtle sierra
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they killed that tree you hated for them

subtle sierra
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if you cast [[deceit]] with both BB and UU, you get to pick the order of triggers, right?

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subtle sierra
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oh and oh god you can evoke this then superior spider man it back for 4 for both modes

twilit canyon
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bounce first, discard second

subtle sierra
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Oh damn that sucks

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I'd really want to discard the thing that got bounced

twilit canyon
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you can

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it'd bounce first, then it discards. you resolve the bounce then the discard

subtle sierra
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But if it's sequential, wouldn't that be bounce first on stack, discard second, resolve backwards?

twilit canyon
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given how the card text works, im p sure that the card resolves the opposite bc of how the abilities are worded

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gimme a sec i have a judge on hand i can text

subtle sierra
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Uhh if you can't pick the order i don't really see how this bounces first then discard given the text, maybe magic is weird

twilit canyon
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wait duh it would let you pick since they happen at the same time on cast and then on etb

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i sent a text and asked elsewhere too

subtle sierra
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Ye they have the same trigger

twilit canyon
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well he just said unreleased so we dont technically have the actual rules list for the card but we can assume it'd work that u can pick bc they happen at the same time

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got second confirmation u would be able to choose

subtle sierra
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Well it makes it a cute piece of removal then

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Even if it costs 6

twilit canyon
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control players will love this one

glad peak
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i think you get to choose as they're separate triggers and you can place them however you want

subtle sierra
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Both omen dragons for dimir are cute

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And black has about as much removal

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And you could run the exhales

steady onyx
subtle sierra
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I kinda tend to hate 3 color decks

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Only one i really liked was sultai ultimatum ages ago

steady onyx
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fair enough

twilit canyon
steady onyx
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idk just the only thing that scares me abt control is boardwipes ngl

subtle sierra
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Removal wise they're fine besides black not having enchantment removal

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But black is cheaper resource wise due to no map spam

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I'd say the draw power is about the same

steady onyx
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oh fair enough

subtle sierra
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Black has good boardwipes but they tend to be more expensive or have caveats like scavenger regent

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On paper it sounds about the same but ehhh

trail anvil
fallow citrus
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I love how every deck that plays the thoughtseize bat always opens up 2

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just had the worst set of games in bo1 ever

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I need to build something that isn't uw control for it I'm going to go insane

trail anvil
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yeah uw control for bo1 sounds like masochism to me idk

fallow citrus
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I think bo1 standard just sucks regardless rn honestly

trail anvil
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I mean if aggro is farming bo3 already I figure there's not much chance for other decks anyways

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also damn wizards stop being cowards, move xho cai to 2 mana like that leaked version

subtle sierra
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Even with my shit dimir control concept

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The deck not only shits itself to counters, it shits itself to removal

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And if you aggro them they will die before the combo

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That deck only works if the metagame is midrange turbo but even then

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It's soooo fucking greedy

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If you want a combo deck play superior reanimator

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Deck's basically a midrange with a combo to push for game they have to play around

subtle sierra
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Yeah good combo should run some cards that aren't only combo pieces but work on their own

glad peak
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Oh this has potential to be dangerous

atomic harness
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Good cards, mr mudkip

glad peak
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Thank you, Mr. Renren

sleek ferry
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love both of these

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I'm telling yall this avatar set is going to be fire

glad peak
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No it’s gonna be air, water, and earth too

trail anvil
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-2

trail anvil
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both of these cards are pretty cool though

sleek ferry
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and it has flash lol

trail anvil
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ig yeah, maybe I'm just too modern horizon brained

tardy echo
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Prowess and flash both normally understat a creature

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So 2/1 seems pretty fine idk

sleek ferry
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This set should have Bloomburrow level implications on standard’s meta, calling it now

sudden lava
subtle sierra
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eh she stuns

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stun is mostly blue

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makes sense to me

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but ig not the first thought that comes to mind

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but red doesn't work for her imo

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unless the red part is only to give her haste or smth

tardy echo
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Well I’m personally glad they’re not just giving every fire nation person red every earth nation person green etc

glad peak
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But but

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Fire is red

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And leaf is green

sleek ferry
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Well firebending is technically both red and black right now

tardy echo
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I think thematically fire nation would very much make sense as mardu colors

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But blue for Ty Lee also still is fine

subtle sierra
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me when i play gen 3 remakes of gen 1

lusty trench
sudden lava
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also why is she ally?

subtle sierra
sudden lava
steady onyx
sudden lava
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good part about Ty Lee's typeline though, we're nearly confirmed for goated episode as a commander

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Unless this is season 3 Ty Lee (Post Hundred Year War, aka after she officially joins the Kyoshi Warriors), there is no other character for this typeline except Ember Island Players

subtle sierra
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well she's an ally

sudden lava
subtle sierra
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well the reason is quite obvious

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she's fighting the fire nation in the prision

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in the art

fallow citrus
sudden lava
subtle sierra
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what

sudden lava
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Unless I am misremembering the Boiling Rock Part 2

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But girl is still at this moment in Azula's Gang.
Unless Ally is not only good aligned (like they are going with "Well she is an Ally of Azula")

last glen
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could be a compositing of her character

subtle sierra
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the bell thing is literally in the episode

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and the soldiers are running towards her to fight her

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wtf are you on about summer

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lmao

last glen
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being depicted primarily in her role as an antagonist throughout the main series
but leaving space open for synergies with the heroes so you can play her as a good guy

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memory serves me right
she betrays Azula right at the end of the arc

subtle sierra
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she betrays her in this very episode

sudden lava
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One betrayal makes ally I guess? But like same episode she was also fighting Team Avatar.

subtle sierra
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summer

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the art literally depicts her after her betrayal

sudden lava
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Yes I get that

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Also I wonder if this means we will get a Grixis Azula

tardy echo
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Nothing abt azula is blue

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Besides her cool blue fire

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I guess they could give her blue just bc of that but it would feel odd

sudden lava
subtle sierra
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i don't really see her being anything else but rakdos tbh

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but we'll see

lusty trench
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sudden lava
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lusty trench
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He probably already was

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But

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First ive seen him

zinc shard
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reminder, ATLA stream today in 45 minutes

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I really should've scrolled down first

sudden lava
# lusty trench

well he was in his legendary creature version from Jumpstart, but yeah cabbage merchant 2 LETS HECKING GO

last glen
sudden lava
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My Quina deck eating good with cabbage merchant

lusty trench
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Grixis book 2 azula vs mono red book 3 azula

zinc shard
lusty trench
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Not once per turn is funky

zinc shard
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oh missed the shuffle into library part

lusty trench
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Can't you just sac a bunch of food in one go and then search a ton of land?

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Or does not being able to shuffle the cabbage salesman cancel the whole effect

sudden lava
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Im pretty sure

zinc shard
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Lightning Greeves is being added to Arena at Uncommon

twilit canyon
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ancient tomb and chrome mox are also being shifted down to rares

fallow citrus
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(this is a joke)

zinc shard
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Dismember is being downshifted to from Mythic to Uncommon

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and we're getting [[Goblin Grenade]] at common

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subtle sierra
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i kinda hate the change

atomic harness
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Are you kids ready for chrome mox? It's a big responsibility...

twilit canyon
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we've had it

subtle sierra
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i'd want you to get to pick which wildcard to use

twilit canyon
atomic harness
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Oh ok Ahri7

subtle sierra
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you can't they force you to pick the lower one

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cause like i'd love to spend my leftover mythics on rest in peace but i just fucking can't

twilit canyon
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what the... i never tried that cus i usually never get to take advantage of the downshifts myself but huh

copper pecan
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is there a full list of the new cards anywhere?

twilit canyon
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so even if u go to big score

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u cant craft your first rip copy with a mythic?

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it auto downshifts you to rare?

subtle sierra
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no

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yeah it's auto rare

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they just say fuck you

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it's why i've been crafting cauldrons recently on stuff

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cause ghost vacuum is a rare

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but cauldron is a mythic

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lol

twilit canyon
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i mean fair lol cauldron in theory is a better meta call but wow

subtle sierra
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no the change is absolutely fucked in some cases

twilit canyon
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i had expected u could push through with the mythic printing

subtle sierra
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cause like if i wanted to make my irl uw build

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i don't use overlord or elspeth

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and only 4 beza

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so after the 4 mythics i don't have much use for them

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so if i have 6 wildcards i could technically at least craft like 2 rip and be happy

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now you can't and get fucked

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on the other hand you can get the golden border duress and negate for commons but it's not like that's really relevant

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i really really wish you could just pick

subtle sierra
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it's even in reveal/leak order

copper pecan
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i meant the cards from the cube but thanks

subtle sierra
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oh

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mb

zinc shard
sudden lava
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Apollo hit me with the gift

copper pecan
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i've been skonging it too much, i immediately thought of skong when i read the name shaw

zinc shard
sudden lava
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holy

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that was AMAZING

zinc shard
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I'm definetely brewing Fire Lord Azula

zinc shard
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There's gotta be something that breaks this

stark skiff
sudden lava
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Panda

stark skiff
atomic harness
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Holy this set looks good @sleek ferry

stark skiff
subtle sierra
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aren't all of the 3 mana sac a land place 2 sorc speed

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also it's not upcosted because of the lesson type

stark skiff
sudden lava
stark skiff
sudden lava
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"You will not use my library's knowledge to defeat the Fire Nation"
THEY ARE TRYING TO CONQUER THE WORLD

stark skiff
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Ahh shit it’s the Dai Li

stark skiff
subtle sierra
copper pecan
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it ain't much, but it's

stark skiff
stark skiff
steady onyx
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also like who is this

subtle sierra
steady onyx
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he looks rly hot

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esp that secondc art

subtle sierra
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he's the big bad evil guy

storm elbow
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Ruler of the fire nation

sudden lava
steady onyx
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:(

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but he looks cool

sudden lava
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btw not the first card we have of him

steady onyx
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i really like the card also tbf

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like that makes firebreathing rly cool

sudden lava
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He's also on cruel tutor

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(the reprint)

steady onyx
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i think ill build him as a commander

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with like the firebreathing stuff

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cauise i RLY wanna play with

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the enchantment with flash

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and the fortell fire breathing card

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yeah this one

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normally i dont like high mana cost commanders

sudden lava
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Wait forgot, monoblack one is actually Rakdos also

steady onyx
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but like i feel hes fine

sudden lava
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cuz that one doesnt technically firebend

steady onyx
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im like thinking

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god

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he should have flash

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that would be PEAK

sudden lava
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Also Ozai scarred his son with fire

steady onyx
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oof

past socket
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the That’s rough buddy gif would’ve certainly been a response on my part

sudden lava
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"Cruel tutor" yeah VERYSADCAT

past socket
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What was Firebending again?

past socket
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Also pretty Ozai is the second instance I’ve seen of converting unspent mana

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The other being 5c Omnath

steady onyx
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bro

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this set is so peak

past socket
sudden lava
zinc shard
last glen
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smh why does this set based on a property with no dinosaurs have no dinosaurs in it

subtle sierra
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dw lorwyn has one

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it's just a shapeshifter

zinc shard
sudden lava
past socket
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Okay, that is funny

stark skiff
fallow citrus
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kona player had 2 cavern of souls in hand

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ig they're just better

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despicable deck

stark skiff
sudden lava
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The glow up from the selesnya one is real

steady onyx
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@sleek ferry @twilit canyon am i crazy that this is a card you 100% can play in standard? and even maybe build a deck kinda around

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with like having aggro from just the free man land

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and also ramp

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from like an elevs if ur in green

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or just the lands u earthbend

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the mechanic feels rly strong in standard to me

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but idk exactly how to play around with it

twilit canyon
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its fine but its not amazing in standard

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we have a single good mana dork at 1 so this becomes very slow

steady onyx
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but maybe im missing something

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idk

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like i know this is a perfect scenario and 3 card hand and whatnot but like
t1 elves t1 this and a genemoph make the land a 3/3

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swinging with a 4/4 on t2 seems good and like idk if thats impossible every game

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but idk

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oh now that im thinking

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i realise you lose a land due to earthbend if your gonna want to be swinging with them...

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hm

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maybe im wrong

last glen
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the land doesn't die permanently
it comes back tapped

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so really there's not much long term risk to them

twilit canyon
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tapped however

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you are absolutely overthinking how good this is though

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this is a strong card when we can have a fair bit of good mana dorks at 1

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otherwise... its kind of just okay

steady onyx
steady onyx
twilit canyon
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the earthbend part is flavor text in 90% of scenarios

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your opponent can also abuse earthbend to force u to play tapped

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like yeah, sure, its not as risky as usual animating lands is, but its still pretty risky

steady onyx
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ah ok

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:(

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thats sad it seemed cool

twilit canyon
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the scenario you want is gonna be so hard to get to bc we only have llanowar elves. maybe if we had another dork, sure. but they've been extremely careful about reprinting 1 mana dorks

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so if u dont have t1 llanowar -> cub your turn 2 is extremely unimpressive and open to getting screwed

glad peak
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I knew it, Marit Lage is the Avatar nyaruhodo

twilit canyon
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ie: they play land, and then cast removal on your creature land, and oops now u gotta have your turn 3 with 1 tapped land

sudden lava
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Every land you animate now taps for 2

subtle sierra
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Ehh

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Like misty described, you kinda need more dorks for it to be consistent

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Surely by the time you earthbend a second time for this to be worth you can do more stuff, say drop an overlord for the land

twilit canyon
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love for you to animate a land so i can curve starcage into it lol

subtle sierra
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Also that ig

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Like if you go t1 elf t2 I'd rather worldwagon or fenrir or w/e

twilit canyon
#

t1 elf -> cub lets you cast the 3 drop anyways

subtle sierra
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Doesn't it leave you with 2 mana after the cub

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And even in that scenario cub sounds a bit winmore

twilit canyon
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elf land oh ur right

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and yeah

subtle sierra
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it is worth if you drop 2 moles but like

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go ahead

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open 2 moles

lusty trench
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They did the thing

subtle sierra
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ofc if you play it you play 4 but it's unlikely

lusty trench
subtle sierra
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maybe not now but a decent card

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i'm debating getting a few irl

twilit canyon
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it should be solid for control lists the only issue i see is that the conditional draw is kind of bad and krasis gained a fair bit of life to stablize

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though we do have beza so thats not too bad rn

subtle sierra
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yeah he said the search draw is kinda meh and might as well be ignored

twilit canyon
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i think its kind of weird too in that, i think i may want riddler over this too hmmm

subtle sierra
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idt anything in standard searches anyway

twilit canyon
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gains x power, draws half of x rounded down...

twilit canyon
subtle sierra
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this does have flash

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and it flashes in untapped

twilit canyon
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no yeah it should be very solid. i do just wonder if it'll actually come up enough at 4 mana hm

subtle sierra
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i think compared to beza, a 3/3 flasher that blocks a thing and draws should be fine

twilit canyon
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cus thinking about it: prior to 4, this is a 2/2 that doesnt draw

subtle sierra
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yeah it's only worth at 4+

twilit canyon
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i wouldnt count it out of course but

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yeah ig we'll see

subtle sierra
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it is bigger than krasis tho

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it's just that in blue you can flash it in at their end

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i really like that

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it's why i value consult a lot higher than stock up

sleek ferry
subtle sierra
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well you spend 2 of it on the mole

twilit canyon
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2 lands, 1 llanowar, -2 mana on the cub, then you have 2 left over

subtle sierra
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but it's more mana on t3

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compared to a 3 mana place land thing

sleek ferry
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Ah yeah, I was thinking linearly

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Mb

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What’s the other 1 mana fork we got in EoE

twilit canyon
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we got a fork in eoe?

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idt they print those at 1 anymore

subtle sierra
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[[gene pollinator]] is kinda useless if you're thinking of him

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twilit canyon
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oh a dork u probably meant

subtle sierra
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rover is cool but not what you need in this case

sleek ferry
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I mean if there’s enough of a reason to play green stompy, you probably play him

subtle sierra
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ehhh

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maybe

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the other two dorks in standard are molt tender and ixalli's and they both don't do what you need with mole

sleek ferry
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It having 2 toughness is also relevant enough, and it nets you the same amount of mana as llanowar on t3

subtle sierra
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uhh

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how

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unless you mean like t1 pollinator t2 mole

sleek ferry
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Yeah, wasn’t that the same scenario we said for llanowar? You lose out on the extra mana on t2 which hurts, but t3 you break even

subtle sierra
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i mean true but if you're running this don't you want the thing to be fine on it's own

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it doesn't sound that good

sleek ferry
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Oh wait I’m lying, it’s the same mana

subtle sierra
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it's the same on t3

twilit canyon
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you also do risk the land even if it comes back

sleek ferry
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T1 gene t2 cub gene taps cub for 2 mana

subtle sierra
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oh true

sleek ferry
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So there’s something there, if they give us a legit reason to want to run green stompy

subtle sierra
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not sure there is rn

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maybe we'll get something this set tho idk, they need to give us something to use firebending with

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so maybe gruul gets something

sleek ferry
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Anything that wants firebending is likely going to be in rakdos or boros

subtle sierra
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perhaps, they could give them something like "creatures have flash during combat" idk

sleek ferry
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I can’t picture them printing an insane firebending payoff in a well costed mono red card, unless it’s 2-3 pips

subtle sierra
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i think it's the perfect set for them to make like XRRR instant that burns idk

sleek ferry
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Don’t we already have an x costed deal x damage to anything card in standard?

subtle sierra
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we do and it's ass

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it's some vehicle

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[[boommobile]]

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zinc shard
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Trying to build around the Grixis Azula, thoughts on this card?

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Potentially 3 mana draw 6

glad peak
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Literally just play her with tainted pact

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Double pact = mill entire deck + thoracle tutor

gritty nest
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Azula?

gritty nest
stark skiff
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kinda wanna build the spell copier azula

glad peak
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That is the spell copier deck KEKW

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Search pact, draw protection, attack -> win

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Literally just gale with different steps nyaruhodo

zinc shard
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The day I play Thassa's Oracle is the day I die

glad peak
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Then die you shall

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You can do the same with Jace, wielder of mystery nyaruhodo

steady onyx
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i dont play the deck that much tho

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so u may know better as you actullay play a lot of control

fallow citrus
twilit canyon
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zoom in more

sleek ferry
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Sigh so many nice reveals today and Twitter is going crazy over the bonus sheet

stark skiff
sleek ferry
twilit canyon
sleek ferry
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They got me man

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I need this in my binder

steady onyx
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bro i dont follow pro magfic super much

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but goly shit i love this deck that won the spierman spotlight series

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i fucking LOVE resonance

stark skiff
sleek ferry
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I’d imagine Aang will be the most pricy

stark skiff
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idk i was kinda surprised they didnt show off the chase rarities

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or at least I dont think they did

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damn archidekt doesnt have the new shit yet

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the art even on the unrevealed stuff was cool too

steady onyx
zinc shard
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Same, waiting for Moxfield

sudden lava
stark skiff
subtle sierra
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But I've also seen lists on no beza so like

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The lifegain isn't really the main point beza is played

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It's just a card that stabilizes you, whatever the matchup

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And it has a nice body to either block or to start poking with after you stabilize

subtle sierra
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Lol this art is funny to me

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If you look from farther away it looks like sokka is recoiling from the map

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His fur thingy looks like his arm

gritty nest
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I hate this art

rigid scarab
subtle sierra
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Ye

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Flash good

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I'm a flash junkie

zinc shard
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First try at Power Cube Draft

atomic harness
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I just realized the artists name holy

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Yosuke Adachi

zinc shard
subtle sierra
zinc shard
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k

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Wizards saw the [[Embiggen]] combo and put a cap on this lol

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subtle sierra
subtle sierra
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I've had authority and high noons but rip being sided into me is new

fallow citrus
last glen
trail anvil
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man I do omniscience draft so little that I keep forgetting impulse drawing doesn't work with the emblem lmao

fallow citrus
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never even thought of earthbending a wasteland to use it twice lmao

steady onyx
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oh shit

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that sounds horrid

last glen
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[[wasteland]]

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steady onyx
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because it would go to gy

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so it returns tapped

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right

last glen
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you could keep earthbending it
as long as you have a repeatable earthbender

steady onyx
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😭

last glen
#

have we seen a Mai card yet

subtle sierra
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Idts

fallow citrus
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same principle as evoke + persist

trail anvil
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wait I forgot about the "return to the battlefield" part of earthbending jesus christ

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once again I am begging wizards to ban strip mine ❤️

trail anvil
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like the first half of the card was already fucking crazy then we're just putting a search punish on top of the flash flying vigilance draw x??

storm elbow
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draw half x but i get what youre saying

trail anvil
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yes draw half x but like are we really just fucking doing a flash hydroid krasis??? lmao

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this is the vivi of the set ong, there's no way this card needed this much

atomic harness
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[[hydroid krasis]]

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atomic harness
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Do decks search a lot rn?

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[[archivist of oghma]]

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trail anvil
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in standard I feel like you don't even need to cause I still stand by the first half is just crazy already

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in other formats I feel like you search enough to make it a massive problem

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can you imagine sitting across to that in the command zone, especially in a pod with a ton of fetch lands

fallow citrus
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you def play it in standard just for the flash flying and draw

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also against green all their fetches makes it huge

fallow citrus
trail anvil
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either way so far this set has been the genuine polar opposite of spiderman to me

trail anvil
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I did not expect everything to be this interesting, props to wizards

steady onyx
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im so hype

fallow citrus
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compared to spm which just sucked

steady onyx
atomic harness
fallow citrus
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also I was thinking

atomic harness
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oh and tithe

fallow citrus
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foggy swamp visions is crazy against the reanimator deck in standard

golden plover
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The fact that this one is just blue is insane

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And flash flying vigilance draw a billion cards

fallow citrus
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you just exile their ardyn and a demon then hit them

atomic harness
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is it better than faerie mastermind

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also I assume sometimes you can just x for 0

fallow citrus
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yes

trail anvil
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power creeping archivist of oghma and hydroid krasis in the same breath

fallow citrus
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well I think they're both equal

golden plover
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Yeah a 2 mana 1/1 flash flying vigilance draw a card is pretty good

trail anvil
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this card will get banned somewhere, this isn't even a prediction because it's just so obvious

golden plover
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How else are we gonna make competitive players buy every UB set tho

steady onyx
atomic harness
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oh it even becomes a 2/2 when you snipe a search

golden plover
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Gotta have something ridiculous push the label every time

golden plover
trail anvil
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tbh this set was pushable even without a card like this though. I've genuinely loved so many of the reveals

atomic harness
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flash flying vigilance is a little absurd

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Wait it really just does have 5 abilities

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LMAO

trail anvil
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like naya toph seems like a commander I want to build instantly

golden plover
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Flash flying vigilance is a crazy ass combo on a variable card

trail anvil
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YEAH ALL AT 2 MANA MAN LMAO

atomic harness
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Not even questing beast was this absurd

golden plover
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Krasis was busted as hell with just the flying part

atomic harness
#

[[questing beast]]

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atomic harness
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For the most part this was just a big guy anyway

golden plover
#

Sure it's been 4 years since krasis

trail anvil
#

I don't think krasis was busted, but it was definitely very meta relevant

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this is just wow

golden plover
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But he was really fucking strong in standard

atomic harness
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oh Krasis being cast is relevant though

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right

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cast as opposed to etb

golden plover
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Not banworthy because we got Oko and shit literally next set

trail anvil
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I mean like, flash makes up for this being counterspellable and then some 😭

golden plover
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But Krasis was good the entirety of the time he was in his standard

trail anvil
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like just hold up a krasis and counter magic

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krasis can't grow on the board without outside synergy either too

atomic harness
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Yeah that makes sense

golden plover
#

Yeah you can also just wait until they're tapped out

trail anvil
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they knew they didn't have to give this vigilance, wizards went full custom card on this bitch

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lore or not jesus christ

atomic harness
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Vigilance on this is so wild

golden plover
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Or at worst case, you flash it in in response to a fetch and they have to either spend for a counterspell or removal immediately

atomic harness
#

you can just hit ppl w it for free

golden plover
#

This thing is gonna steal so many games because even paying 2 for it is crazy

steady onyx
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is he strong?

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idk avatar at all

atomic harness
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Very

trail anvil
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yeah so basically

steady onyx
#

i know the commander i wanna build is the bbeg

golden plover
#

He'll be weaker in standard than anywhere else, but not even enough to make him bad

steady onyx
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but he seems chill

atomic harness
golden plover
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And hey, when the inevitable new problem Izzet deck shows up, you can bet your ass he's gonna be in it

trail anvil
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||iirc he's a librarian for either a crazy amount of knowledge, and in order to enter you need to provide something new?||

atomic harness
#

Yeah

trail anvil
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could be misremembering

steady onyx
atomic harness
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There's a lot more to it but that's a good tl;dr

steady onyx
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lmao

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this card

atomic harness
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He's the rick of avatar

steady onyx
atomic harness
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||"He is the most knowledgeable being among humans and spirits"||

last glen
#

does he turn into a pickle

trail anvil
#

see I can alchemy fix this card instantly, make it cost X2UU instead 😭

fallow citrus
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idk why I just realised

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waterbending is just improvise

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[[whir of invention]] is an atla card in disguise

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fallow citrus
trail anvil
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they clutched the fuck up with this art though

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hot damn

fallow citrus
#

blow up their land and then either they give you advantage or just lose a land forever

last glen
#

chat is it funnier to earthbend a strip mine or a fetchland

steady onyx
sudden lava
#

Your non ally Ty Lee

subtle sierra
trail anvil
#

finally caught up to the reveals yesterday, jesus christ they really did kill it with this set

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bloodbending 👌 goes so insanely hard in every way

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temur iroh actually looks like a fun temur lessons commander, I'm so insanely hyped for ETB shrines, so much stuff has genuinely amazing flavor

fallow citrus
trail anvil
#

so toxic pensivecowboybread

trail anvil
sleek ferry
#

wonder if they limited it to 10 for the sake of the blue leyline

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whatever its name was

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[[bad blue leyline]]

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No card found for “bad blue leyline”

sleek ferry
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[[leyline of transformation]]

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Enchantment
If this card is in your opening hand, you may begin the game with it on the battlefield.
As this enchantment enters, choose a creature type.
Creatures you control are the chosen type in addition to their other types. The same is true for creature spells you control and creature cards you own that aren't on the battlefield.

sleek ferry
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nvm

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I thought this gave all creature types

trail anvil
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wait that's actually a good point though, I didn't even think about changelings

glad peak
#

Can you use it with changelings? Because changelings are also humans

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Like I remember the reason why embiggen had that text was so it wouldn’t work with changelings

fallow citrus
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no you wouldnt be able to bc they're human too

trail anvil
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o right

last glen
#

the changeling with extra text that says it is not a human Wizards is about to print

subtle sierra
#

so it's not like it'd help anyway

trail anvil
#

damn the more I think about it though the more they captured the essence of each bending so well

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water bending using your surroundings to your advantage, fire bending with the short bursts of power, air bending with the trickiness and earth bending with well, literally using earth

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I'm also always hyped for more opportunities to use land creatures 👀 especially with low downside

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I think this might be a set I actually preorder on arena

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I'm sorry you do what now?

#

now that's a 6 mana artifact right there

glad peak
#

Huh that’s pretty interesting

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Good? Probably not, 6 is still way too high and you can do better things than that

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But interesting

tardy echo
#

Probably something to be done with it in commander

subtle sierra
#

this isn't good if you don't have a thing that will trigger it the second it lands, but that means you have to build around it, which also means you dilute your hits off this

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so like

trail anvil
#

I don't think it's breaking anything but it sounds super fun, especially with [[unwinding clock]]

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subtle sierra
#

i don't have much hope for this

tardy echo
trail anvil
#

in a commander deck that's scry heavy like elminster it sounds really fun

tardy echo
#

Spider-Man has that 1 mana blue that cheats artifacts too

trail anvil
#

ah yes, the worse jhoira

tardy echo
#

No comment

subtle sierra
#

ig you can cheat this with kona

trail anvil
#

there are better things to cheat with kona tho

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if you could do something scry/surveil heavy with whatshername from final fantasy maybe there's some niche, but I doubt you're using it if you're not a Johnny

tardy echo
#

Or craterhoof

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Or whatever it is people play w Kona now

zinc shard
last glen
#

Does the Mai and Zuko card imply Mai will be UB? I don't think I've seen Zuko in a color other than mono-red.

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nvm he is in RWB

steady onyx
#

that mai and zuko card seems cool

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ive wanted to play flash turbo decks

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and in grixis is interesting

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with artifacts and allys

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and i really like firebending

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but i want to play around with firebending and flash

#

im between ozai and mai and zuko now

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i just wish ozai had flash

last glen
#

I don't want ozai to flash me tbh

sudden lava
zinc shard
#

Redoing this so you can see the full image

haughty otter
zinc shard
#

Also love that Momo can remove The One Ring

sudden lava
past socket
#

Worth

haughty otter
#

🍑🐿️💍

glad peak
#

Lots of people trade their one rings for delicious peaches every day nyaruhodo

sleek ferry
twilit canyon
#

your average ladder control player is very funny

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they silence me on my t2, and i plot show-off

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they silence me t3 and i plot a 2nd show off

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they silence my a 3rd time and i plot a 3rd show off

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then they tap out for narset, find a 1 mana fragment reality and then they dont play an untapped land

#

they proceed to conceed

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oh they left the fucking match lmfao

zinc shard
stark skiff
subtle sierra
#

Blue maybe spirit oasis?

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Or maybe this thing we saw for like a second idk

tardy echo
#

Was there an earth temple

#

It’s been quite a while since I’ve watched

subtle sierra
#

Yes, the southern air temple episode showed all nations' temples

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That was the water one

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This was the earth one

#

But again both of those showed up for one second so like idt they'll go for them

#

Green could be western air temple

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Or maybe the big tree in the swamp

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But the cycle's naming scheme is currently something something temple

#

So idk

tardy echo
#

Was there… perchance an eastern air temple

subtle sierra
#

you're a visionary

tardy echo
subtle sierra
#

like the most spiritual water thing i can think of is the spirit oasis

#

in the original series

pulsar talon
#

Was the dragon place zuko visited a temple?

#

Been a while since i watched ATLA

subtle sierra
#

we already have the red one

trail anvil
#

that's wild

twilit canyon
#

historic players are a different breed (derogatory)

trail anvil
#

maybe I can squeeze in a climb to plat last second KEKW

sleek ferry
#

I wish I had the drive, but I’m legitly just waiting for avatar rn

gritty nest
#

[[slickshot show off]]?

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steady onyx
trail anvil
steady onyx
#

ooh fair emough

zinc shard
#

I'm getting really sick of seeing this card

sleek ferry
#

@twilit canyon did I play it too safe by going sol ring into hearse for my first 2 picks here?

twilit canyon
#

pack 1 sol ring is always gonna happen

#

pick 2...?

#

yeah

#

riddler or laelia are both really good

#

you can argue yawg's will and breach but those can end up as build arounds

sleek ferry
#

For pack 2 I considered riddler and laella also yeah

twilit canyon
#

mind you

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hearse isnt bad

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in bo1, you really do need the grave hate