Magic the Gathering

[glad peak]

Neat

[gritty nest]

ive disassembled 12 decks, $975 in value. i have more decks to disassemble.

[gritty nest]

Finally done

$1,200 in cards

[vivid hatch]

What benchmark for value

[vivid hatch]

Today’s acquisitions

[vivid hatch]

estimated print run is 40-50 of each

[gritty nest]

TCGplayer market price as that’s what my LGS does

[vivid hatch]

Yeah decent reference point

albeit I prefer using low

[gritty nest]

Fair

I’m trading it all in

[vivid hatch]

Your WHOLE collection?

why

and why not sell it yourself

[gritty nest]

im not dealing with the time to sell it lol

[gritty nest]

most *

[gritty nest]

I got $1k for everything

[vivid hatch]

Credit or cash?

If cash that’s amazing

If credit still great tbh

[gritty nest]

Trade credit

Picked this stuff up

[steady onyx]

https://www.reddit.com/r/magicTCG/comments/1oaluab/revealing_information_in_commander/

im done

😭

[copper pecan]

yeah this kind of thing is a big part of why i'm not interested in edh

[steady onyx]

yup

[vivid hatch]

EDH only works with friends

because it’s so reliant on “vibes”

[steady onyx]

^

[vivid hatch]

shit like this is intolerable with strangers

the only form of Edh I can understand with strangers is… cedh

[steady onyx]

i cant lol

[vivid hatch]

anything goes within the rules

cedh is fine if you look at it like any competitive format

it’s just frankly inferior conceptually to 60 card

but it can be a competitive format if you let it be one

[steady onyx]

sure

but i just tink 60 card is so much better

and within 60 card there is also a tierlkist tbf

[vivid hatch]

That’s an opinion, one I agree with

[vivid hatch]

I’m just saying these issues disappear

[steady onyx]

sure

ost of the time

[vivid hatch]

If you look at the format like any competitive format

[steady onyx]

i tink some people come ot cedh

with wrong mindset

which can get fucky

[vivid hatch]

yeah that’s a skill issue

people complain in 60 card about decks they don’t like

[steady onyx]

hey i do that

i fucking hate playing against control rn in standard

because my deck just has a horrid fucking mu into them

but w/e

part of the gme

i do have like 10 cards in side specifically for control i thik

[glad peak]

Cedh is honestly the best casual way to play edh ngl

Until you have a consistent group

[atomic harness]

Thank you little kipmud

Now can people stop losing to turn 2 etali PLEASE

[fallow citrus]

I wish I could have a local cedh pod

would be fun to finally play it irl instead of webcam

[atomic harness]

Is this list any good little mud https://moxfield.com/decks/UCZpPdZhHESE1BgFVge3OA/primer

[glad peak]

No

I see scepter I know immediately it’s not good

[steady onyx]

dont play urza its gotten worse

i tried

renren can i pill u on cocaine bear?

legit my fave cedh deck

by a large margin

its liek rly rly cool mr renren

https://moxfield.com/decks/M_pcU9UU_UOLeWUVrgD7Aw

this is a more turbo combo list

there is another list thats a touch slower

[glad peak]

Cocaine bear’s fun

[atomic harness]

It's fine yeah

[tardy echo]

I hate to tell you that turn 2 etali is a little good

[fallow citrus]

https://magic.wizards.com/en/news/announcements/secret-lair-countdown-kit-an-encyclopedia-of-magic

so we can get a release date for this but not dandan

[fallow citrus]

also for $200 that better have 26 insane reprints

[tardy echo]

Is this elves

The art doesn’t even show up in the post

I guess when you only have 26 cards you don’t wanna spoil it all at once

[golden plover]

$200 for 26 cards

They're smoking shit

This'll sell out immediately tho

[atomic harness]

Sigh

[golden plover]

But it better be like:
A - Ancestral Recall
B - Black Lotus
C - Card Named Tundra

https://preview.redd.it/sns101dswhwf1.png?auto=webp&s=6a0946845dea612bdecbf9c6237f8ac7da0ab401

Oh nah it's lame

Llanowar Elves and Wasteland

We reinvented From the Vault and we're charging $200 for it

[tardy echo]

Nice elves art at least

[golden plover]

Yeah but it'll be like $6 later

[tardy echo]

And the consultation is good

That wasteland is a little stinky though

I like how they just put all the land hate goats on the cover though

[golden plover]

Oh my God wait... S is Sol Ring, C is Command Tower, L is Lightning Grieves, and A is Arcane Signet for sure

M gets to be Mox Amber to make it "worth it's value"

Z GETS TO BE ZETALPA AGAIN BABY!!! SHE HASNT GOTTEN A REPEINT IN LIKE 2 SETS!! WE GET TO REPRINT ZETALPA

[glad peak]

Consultation is funny

[fallow citrus]

I really do not like that wasteland art

[last glen]

https://magic.wizards.com/en/news/announcements/commander-brackets-beta-update-october-21-2025

[fallow citrus]

they got rid of tutors being a bad thing

[last glen]

In the article, they mention that it didn't take into account that bad/inefficient tutors don't have an outsized negative effect, and what counted as a tutor was unclear. The Game Changers list can be used to limit tutors that enable more consistent win condition combos.

[zinc shard]

https://www.reddit.com/r/magicTCG/comments/1ocjdhk/weeklymtg_from_the_stream_they_are_considering/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web3x&utm_name=web3xcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button

"[WeeklyMTG] From the Stream: They are considering Making Hybrid Mana an "or" rather than "and" for color identity purpose."

[fallow citrus]

so if you have an uw hybrid commander it's either u or w not both

[last glen]

that would be XOR
I believe it's OR
so uw hybrid could be u, w, or uw

[zinc shard]

yea so you could still run Rhys as a Selesnya commander, but you can also play it in the 99 of a mono green or mono white deck

[last glen]

apparently there is discussion to allow 2-brid mana like [[Dragonclaw Strike]] to be treated as completely generic
but this is much more tenuous

[lost widget]

https://scryfall.com/card/tdm/180/dragonclaw-strike

Dragonclaw Strike <:mana2g:292901508695982080><:mana2u:292901508721410058><:mana2r:292901508310368259>

Sorcery
Double the power and toughness of target creature you control until end of turn. Then it fights up to one target creature an opponent controls. (Each deals damage equal to its power to the other.)
Some had doubted the whisperers' choice of Eshki for Dragonclaw. None did so after witnessing her in battle.

[fallow citrus]

oh sure

[golden plover]

Hybrid in mana cost makes sense

But I feel like 2brid shouldn't be generic

[fallow citrus]

I kind of agree

because you can play cards like urborg in decks to make 2brid cards just cost normal

but also like who really cares

[zinc shard]

There cant be that many 2brid cards that are worth going out of your way to cast for colored mana

[steady onyx]

i need 4 of those elves for standard :(

[zinc shard]

https://markrosewater.tumblr.com/post/798043373128859648/maros-avatar-the-last-airbender-teaser

Blogatog

Maro’s Avatar: The Last Airbender Teaser

Before previews for _Avatar: The Last Airbender _​officially begin, I thought it would be fun to do another of my _Duelist_​-style teasers where I give tiny hints of things to come. Note that I’m only giving you partial information.

First up, here are some things you can expect:

• red sorcery that can destroy target land for {1}{R}

• some tokens in this set:  1/1 white Ally, 2/2 red Soldier, 4/4 green Bear, and 1/1 colorless Spirit

• a token first seen in a previous _Universes Beyond_​ appears for the second time

• a {2}{W}{U}{B}{R}{G} activation

• spell capable of making two different type of copy tokens

• card with affinity for Allies

• 3/3 creature for {U}

• some counters in the set – stun, finality, double strike, fire, conqueror, and quest

• spell that controls target player but just for one specific phase

• red card with a Blood Moon effect

Next, here are some rules text that will be showing up on cards:

• “Each land and Ally you control has”

• “to a maxim...

Tumblr · Oct 21, 2025, 7:04 PM

[steady onyx]

• red sorcery that can destroy target land for {1}{R}

there mut be some huge downside on that

[subtle sierra]

it's probably just some [[cleansing wildfire]] sidegrade

[lost widget]

https://scryfall.com/card/znr/137/cleansing-wildfire

Cleansing Wildfire <:mana1:292901508373282827><:manar:292901508796645397>

Sorcery
Destroy target land. Its controller may search their library for a basic land card, put it onto the battlefield tapped, then shuffle.
Draw a card.
Every rebirth looks like a death.

[steady onyx]

oh right

eah that makes sense

[copper pecan]

i like how the wasteland looks like its name is "wasteland land"

[glad peak]

Oh a new blood moon?

[lost widget]

No card found for “Alpine Sun”

[zinc shard]

[[Alpine Moon]]

[lost widget]

https://scryfall.com/card/m19/128/alpine-moon

Alpine Moon <:manar:292901508796645397>

Enchantment
As this enchantment enters, choose a nonbasic land card name.
Lands your opponents control with the chosen name lose all land types and abilities, and they gain ": Add one mana of any color."
"A rare and fascinating phenomenon." —Tamiyo

[zinc shard]

[[Blood Sun]]

[lost widget]

https://scryfall.com/card/rix/92/blood-sun

Blood Sun <:mana2:292901509060886528><:manar:292901508796645397>

Enchantment
When this enchantment enters, draw a card.
All lands lose all abilities except mana abilities.
As the struggle raged for control of the Immortal Sun, the world grew dark under a blood-red sky.

[sudden lava]

"Red moon card"

😡

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1371350916242079805/1430321465294590013/image.png?ex=68f95a2b&is=68f808ab&hm=57d19268bbfa371d85fa08edbab8769062c6c25d8bf88373395c6c8fa7ad5bd0&=&format=webp&quality=lossless&width=1046&height=798

Fish Killer the card

On the plus side, EMBER ISLAND PLAYERS AS A COMMANDER

[glad peak]

Blood sun and alpine moon are nowhere near blood moon and you know it

[sudden lava]

Killing a spirit's fish form makes the moon go red

https://youtu.be/1T51Vk8_mms

[tardy echo]

I mean there’s literally a blood moon in avatar

I assumed if nothing else it would at least get an alternative art

[gritty nest]

i think twobrids should stay as their normal color identity, and regular hybrid could use the new rules

[gritty nest]

https://scryfall.com/search?q=otag%3Acycle-shm-twobrid-spell&unique=cards&utm_source=tagger

theyre all like

okay?

beseech the queen and advice from the fae are the best ones

oh well

https://scryfall.com/search?q=is%3Ahybrid+f%3Ac&unique=cards&as=grid&order=name

the twobrid cards are in this search it seems, but unsure if theres more than the 5 in the twobrid tag above

[stark skiff]

• Creature – Cat Armadillo
• Creature – Platypus Bear
• Creature – Boar Elk Bird Ox
• Creature – Human Plant Ally
• Creature – Bird Assassin
• Legendary Creature – Human Warrior Performer
• Legendary Creature – Human Monk Ally
• Legendary Creature – Shapeshifter Spirit
• Legendary Creature – Elder Cat Turtle
• Legendary Artifact Creature – Wall

1-Tigerdillo
2-Platypus Bear
3-Idk
4-Foggy Swamp Tribe
5-Raven Eagle
6-Fire Nation Performers
7-Monk Gyatso
8-Koh Face Stealer
9-Lion Turtle
10-Ba Sing Se Wall

[sudden lava]

Their name is Ember Island Players

https://tenor.com/view/ember-island-players-avatar-the-last-airbender-gif-23845072

[stark skiff]

I couldn’t remember their name lol

[sudden lava]

Also we really weaponizing the wall of Ba Sing Se as a commander.

Oh btw bloodbending seemingly has 2 cards

[stark skiff]

Wonder what this one is “a token first seen in a previous Universes Beyond appears for the second time”

[sudden lava]

this and the "control target player during a specific phase" fit well with bloodbending's manipulative style of waterbending

control target player may be it as an instant (or a very heavy mana cost on a waterbending enchantment)
and the has all activated/triggered could be Hama (IE she is using her bloodbending to activate the activated/triggered abilities)

[copper pecan]

could be the bird tokens from ff

or the 5 color elemental token from ff

[subtle sierra]

clue

[copper pecan]

wait actually it's probably the boulder token from lotr

[sudden lava]

https://tenor.com/view/atla-avatar-the-last-air-bender-earth-bending-boulder-conflict-gif-17584788

Boulder token but its The Boulder

[tardy echo]

Boulder token is hype

[gritty nest]

[[!Flying Boulder]]

[lost widget]

No card found for “Flying Boulder”

[gritty nest]

[[!Ballistic Boulder]]

[lost widget]

https://scryfall.com/card/tltr/8/ballistic-boulder

Ballistic Boulder

[gritty nest]

https://archidekt.com/decks/11326351/rhys_the_redeemed What bracket would you guys say this deck is?

[zinc shard]

High 2/Low 3

[gritty nest]

thats what i was thinking, the aura shards there can be cut and make 0 difference

what do you guys think of the desert bloom precon with [[!Yuma, Proud Protector]]?

[lost widget]

https://scryfall.com/card/otc/4/yuma-proud-protector

Yuma, Proud Protector

[past socket]

Heard it was pretty nice out of the box but really sick when you upgrade

[gritty nest]

i used to own it, considered picking it back up

but ill tear apart more decks for it first

This is everything i currently have left
Inspirit, Flagship Vessel - Precon
Morophon, The Boundless - Precon
Aerith, Last Ancient - WIP (wanted to build her since release)
Gavi, Nest Warden - WIP (wanted a low power non precon deck for LGS)
Ashnod, The Uncaring
Rhys, The Redeemed
Disa The Restless
Saheeli, Radiant Creator
Ulalek, Fused Atrocity
Y'shtola, Nights Blessed
Sonic the Hedgehog

[vivid hatch]

Auction for this ends this evening

Really hoping I get to snipe it :0

[gritty nest]

good luck

[vivid hatch]

Currently at $130 which is lol, lmao

[vivid hatch]

thanks!!

It mostly depends on if others try snipe it too

[gritty nest]

probably, wouldnt surprise me

[vivid hatch]

The price for the marsh flats I won yesterday went up from 70 to 410 in the last 5 seconds

over 18 bids

…because everyone had the same idea

actually insane that so many people decided, independently, that the best thing to do at 11am on a Tuesday is try snipe a magic card last second

[gritty nest]

lmfao

do you play commander at all?

[vivid hatch]

pretty much never

mostly pauper, sometimes legacy and modern

master of scrubbing out 1-2/2-1 at random weeklies 😎

[gritty nest]

based

im debating on disassembling more of my EDH decks

ive grown to like budget decks that still perform well

[vivid hatch]

I straight up actively dislike edh and wouldn’t ever play it with randoms

the only circumstance in which it’s fun is playing with friends

and yeah, brewing budget lists can be super fun

you should try penny dreadful

Or value vintage or something

[gritty nest]

used to play value vintage

[vivid hatch]

All of the $ cap formats are great

[gritty nest]

dropped it because my local scene only did it on a day i worked, and when i had the day off, never showed up or only played turn 2 combo wins. I also found constantly tracking the price of decks tedious

[vivid hatch]

That’s fair, tbh try penny dreadful on MTGO

It’s literally free

Or $1 for a deck if you CBA to apply for a free loaner

[gritty nest]

eh, not usually a fan of digital

but thanks for the idea

[vivid hatch]

Tbh I find it funny that the main 2 ways I interact with magic are

1. playing the cheap commons-only format
2. collecting the rarest and most expensive foreign foils

[gritty nest]

plays 2 penny cards

buys 2 grand cards

[twilit canyon]

oh shit yeah gl

[zinc shard]

thanks google

[glad peak]

I remember when I played penny lol

Randomly winning with rakdos midrange in a format of turn 1 sire is crazy

Mainly just played delver and rakdos, only for like 2 seasons

[sudden lava]

Other possibility for the stun counters found

https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/eKIuZ7SmbauWkMemTbd1rMSAVdS2WdsL1G3oPBOjjFw/%3Fcb%3D20130626132120/https/static.wikia.nocookie.net/avatar/images/7/71/Shirshu.png/revision/latest?format=webp&width=375&height=281

"Like other shirshus, Nyla's tongue contained toxins that could temporarily paralyze humans"

Ty Lee and Nyla (June & Nyla card?) both can be what the stun counters are from

[copper pecan]

[[booster tutor]] is apparently in the new arena cube???

[lost widget]

https://scryfall.com/card/und/33/booster-tutor

Booster Tutor <:manab:292901508872273920>

Instant
Open a sealed Magic booster pack, reveal the cards, and put one of them into your hand. (Remove that card from your deck before beginning a new game.)
"You saved that Urza's Saga pack all these years for this?"

[sleek ferry]

That’s really cool

[gritty nest]

what do you guys think of mindslaver combos?

[glad peak]

If they can establish a win (like buried ruins + mindslaver) then it’s pretty cool

If theyre just doing just because and they don’t have a way to win and your deck can’t feasibly kill you and they don’t have enough cards in deck/any creatures? Nah that’s boring

[zinc shard]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IgXcYRGEFg8

[gritty nest]

yeah no i decided on mindslaver combos

it would devolve into a literal 1 player circle jerk

[vivid hatch]

Won it let’s go

Final bid 277.7

My max bid was $300

[sleek ferry]

Just preordered 2 avatar boxes for $125

Each ofc

I thought that was a solid deal

I really feel like this will compete with EoE as best set of 2025

[steady onyx]

is blink interactive?

in commander

like is it build a board turbo

or is it like interactive gamepaly reactive and stuff

[trail anvil]

blink takes a shit ton of game actions so if you're gonna do it you better learn how to play your deck well

[steady onyx]

hm

sure but is it like idk

fun to play or not

i know its subjective

but i dont like like enchantress decks stuff like that

i want something more along the lines of like draw go but not draw go

like interactive decks

[gritty nest]

Nice

[trail anvil]

I mean you can make most decks interactive, especially if you're in certain colors

my midrange anikthea is pretty interactive cause there are naturally a decent number of enchantments with single target or mass removal

[steady onyx]

i didnt like anikthea wheni tried her

cause it felyt just like turbo out a board

wiht pilow fort

and win

[steady onyx]

i feel like i wanna blink at instant speed to trigger etbs that can like trade bodies or smt?

is that a direction I can go/

?

[trail anvil]

that just sounds like blink

[steady onyx]

yeah

ok

whats the commanders i would play?

[trail anvil]

https://edhrec.com/tags/blink#topcommanders

[rigid scarab]

Either build a commander who enables blinking, or a commander with a stupid ETB effect you wanna be blinking to repeat

[steady onyx]

phelia looks cool

but i want azorious

:(

[fallow citrus]

just play [[geist of saint traft]]

[lost widget]

https://scryfall.com/card/voc/155/geist-of-saint-traft

Geist of Saint Traft <:mana1:292901508373282827><:manaw:1007102126813610074><:manau:292901508754702338>

Legendary Creature — Spirit Cleric
Hexproof (This creature can't be the target of spells or abilities your opponents control.)
Whenever Geist of Saint Traft attacks, create a 4/4 white Angel creature token with flying that's tapped and attacking. Exile that token at end of combat.
2/2

[fallow citrus]

ez

idk why I said this when I was thinking of brago

same vibe

[steady onyx]

idk

maybe

i just feel like brago dosent do what i wantbutmaybe im wrong

i like phelia cause flash

[tardy echo]

This card used to be so broken

[sleek ferry]

This might be the biggest plot twist in mtg history https://x.com/playtowinmtg/status/1980986999680163856?s=46&t=DdUsqNPs-c3IFDRYOhiq8A

Play to Win (@playtowinmtg)

CAM IS A MARRIED MAN

X · Oct 22, 2025, 1:18 PM

[gritty nest]

https://archidekt.com/decks/16897111 I feel like I did this wrong lol

it has only been turn 8 or later on average so far. Unsure if its a skill issue or what, but can't seem to win earlier

the only restriction was keeping it $100 USD or less

[rigid scarab]

Ooh I play ashnod too

But she has more of a control wincon for me that wins off a 3 carder

[gritty nest]

fair

[rigid scarab]

Lemme take a look through the list

From my experience playing Ashnod, pinging everyone to death is not that good of a wincon

Ashnod works best as a value behemoth to flood you with card advantage and lock down the board through heaps of artifact-based removal and drawing into disruption from hand

You can just draw into your pingers and hope to win the game after everyone's spent (Consider Bolas' Citadel), but I think a simple "I win now" combo is better if you wanna go for the win with Ashnod

You can go Time Sieve Battlesphere for infinite turns which is what I've done but literally any combo in grixis colours works

[gritty nest]

yeah my current issue is i need to draw into a drain piece or token maker, and an infinite to actually do the thing

otherwise im just playing mediocre grixis artifacts

[rigid scarab]

Time Sieve alone with no other wincon is also extremely draining to the table

[gritty nest]

yeah i didnt add time sieve or mindslaver for those reasons

[rigid scarab]

If you wanna emphasise the "You aren't gonna stick a single creature" thing with Ashnod

Might I suggest Street Urchin

[gritty nest]

the old give a deathtouch creature a pistol and make sure nobody has a creature strategy

[rigid scarab]

And Ashnod doubling herself makes it extra potent

[gritty nest]

[[street urchin]]

[lost widget]

https://scryfall.com/card/clb/197/street-urchin

Street Urchin <:mana1:292901508373282827><:manar:292901508796645397>

Legendary Enchantment — Background
Commander creatures you own have ", Sacrifice another creature or an artifact: This creature deals 1 damage to any target."
Your harsh upbringing on the streets of the city left you crafty, resilient, and wise beyond your years.

[gritty nest]

true

idk if i want to continue working on that then tbh. I currently have an esper control list with [[Yshtola, Night's Blessed]] and i realize i dont find playing the fun police fun

[lost widget]

https://scryfall.com/card/fic/7/yshtola-nights-blessed

Y'shtola, Night's Blessed <:mana1:292901508373282827><:manaw:1007102126813610074><:manau:292901508754702338><:manab:292901508872273920>

Legendary Creature — Cat Warlock
Vigilance
At the beginning of each end step, if a player lost 4 or more life this turn, you draw a card.
Whenever you cast a noncreature spell with mana value 3 or greater, Y'shtola deals 2 damage to each opponent and you gain 2 life.
2/4

[rigid scarab]

Also

[gritty nest]

if that makes sense

[rigid scarab]

Less instants/sorceries that sac an artifact to draw cards

More artifacts that sac themselves to draw cards

[gritty nest]

theres something similar to [[executioner's capsule]] thats blue but im forgetting the name

[lost widget]

https://scryfall.com/card/2xm/92/executioners-capsule

Executioner's Capsule <:manab:292901508872273920>

Artifact
, , Sacrifice this artifact: Destroy target nonblack creature.
There is always a moment of trepidation before opening a message capsule, for fear of the judgment that might be contained within.

[gritty nest]

[[courier's capsule]]?

[lost widget]

https://scryfall.com/card/ala/37/couriers-capsule

Courier's Capsule <:mana1:292901508373282827><:manau:292901508754702338>

Artifact
, , Sacrifice this artifact: Draw two cards.
In ages past, Esper couriers bore messages written on ornate scrolls. The medium has grown more sophisticated, but the principle remains the same.

[rigid scarab]

Moonsilver Key also goes insane

[gritty nest]

yeah i run it already

[rigid scarab]

The main problem with Ashnod is that she's kind of a monolith commander

[gritty nest]

wym?

[rigid scarab]

You lose a shit ton of your value if she gets removed

And 5cmc is a lot

[gritty nest]

ah true

yeah, especially if im trying to do bracket 3 win by turn 6 on average

[rigid scarab]

I do enjoy decks where I present myself as the obvious problem

But with Ashnod specifically among those decks it goes

"Wow! Sick list you made!"

"Never bring it again!"

[gritty nest]

LMAO

[rigid scarab]

But tbf that was before I put my combo wincon in the deck

[gritty nest]

yeah no im realizing control in EDH specifically i dont really care for, its draining managing 3 players instead of 1

[rigid scarab]

The deck did a great job in controlling

Just not winning

[gritty nest]

i may work on a different commander then

yeah, and i went too far into combo

is control just going to be a natural aspect of going into bracket 3?

[rigid scarab]

The only metric of bracket 3 decks is being on average just better than bracket 2 decks

[gritty nest]

fair

[rigid scarab]

They don't need to lean towards any particular axis

You can have a deck in bracket 4 that does nothing but tutor for 2 card wins but by all other metrics does nothing else

[gritty nest]

yeah

[rigid scarab]

The only bracket that has quality metrics you need to pass is 5

[gritty nest]

tbh im unsure of what I want to do. I feel like draining the table over multiple turns is too slow, but i'm unsure of how to build something efficient enough for bracket 3. If that makes any sense

idk how to explain it

[rigid scarab]

You want an efficient, but not exhausting deck that qualifies as bracket 3?

[gritty nest]

yeah

i dont want to do nondeterministic shit though, that doesnt sound fun

[rigid scarab]

Well bracket 3 is the new Power level 7

There's tons of wishy washy freedom you have

[gritty nest]

true, but tbh after the recent post gavin made most of my decks basically play at bracket 2

turn 8 or later wins usually lol

hence why i was wanting to make something that wins more efficiently

[rigid scarab]

Well winning by a specific turn count isn't the only way to determine a deck's bracket

It could be where

A deck may not reduce everyone to 0 life on turn 6

But it can establish a situation where if left alone by turn 6, it can pretty comfortably take a demanding lead in the game

[gritty nest]

ie control?

[rigid scarab]

Like if you goldfished for 6 turns, can you say "Oh I'd be very likely to win right now"

[rigid scarab]

Or stax

[gritty nest]

and "winning" doesnt necessarily mean literally winning, but putting the game in a state where the best option is you winning

if i understood you right

feel like im explaining my thoughts poorly

[rigid scarab]

Yes

[gritty nest]

can I show you the decks i usually play after I get them added to Archidekt?

[rigid scarab]

Sure

[gritty nest]

https://archidekt.com/folders/1241873

theres 9 decks total

[rigid scarab]

Yaaaaaaaaay

Are these all meant to be bracket 3

[rigid scarab]

I'd like to go one deck at a time here

Starting with Freyalise

What's that lifegain subtheme for?

[gritty nest]

well, i thought they were, but bracket 2 seems more in line for most of them

[gritty nest]

Freyalise?

[rigid scarab]

Well do you want them to be bracket 3

[gritty nest]

Rhys the Redeemed?

[rigid scarab]

Right!

Rhys!

I got confused with areo

[gritty nest]

its fine

it was mainly just to show you what i normally play

because i dont think any of them are bracket 3 anymore tbh

the life gain stuff in rhys was mainly just a thing on the side to have some sustain against aristocrats

[rigid scarab]

Well I mean if you wanna play in bracket 3 pods it'd be nice to have decks you can confidently say are bracket 3

[rigid scarab]

I think having 4 slots dedicated to just lifegain is a bit much

[gritty nest]

probably, but i like it though, and doesnt seem to impact the deck too much negatively

used to play the deck without any of the soul sisters and it was pretty much identical

[gritty nest]

yeah, but id prefer to build something new than modify a current list

[rigid scarab]

Alr

[rigid scarab]

To say something about Rhys

[gritty nest]

i feel like im explaining myself poorly lol

[rigid scarab]

I think the land and removal count should be a bit higher

And you got too many planeswalkers doing nothing

[gritty nest]

thats fair. i added them originally just to have repeatable token makers

nissa could probably get cut, same with all the soul sisters

freyalise tokens are at least ramp without extra steps, storm slayer is a token doubler, maker and win con, plus removal if you want it. Sun's Champion can probably get cut too

is that what you were thinking as well?

[rigid scarab]

Freyalise, Sun's Champion and Nissa are what I'm thinking

Also replace Doubling Season with Parallel Lives

[gritty nest]

yeah, i'll have to pick one up

i owned a doubling season before parallel

i can take that doubling season and throw it in saheeli if i find a parallel lives

i hate this art of parallel lives but it is the cheapest

[[!Parallel Lives|MAR]]

[lost widget]

https://scryfall.com/card/mar/36/parallel-lives

Parallel Lives

[gritty nest]

other than the changes you recommend, wht do you think of the list overall?

[rigid scarab]

UB printings of cards tend to be the cheapest

[rigid scarab]

I mean not much you can do to go wrong with Rhys

[gritty nest]

fair enough

[rigid scarab]

The card changes I recommend is to change an otherwise fine list

[gritty nest]

yeah ofc

tbh i feel like morophon can be a decently strong option if i modified it, but i do like the precon

it's 3am for me, im going to head to bed. Thanks for the advice

[rigid scarab]

:3

[gritty nest]

If you have any recommendations for commanders I can build btw, that would be awesome

[rigid scarab]

Looking for commanders that can facilitate an efficient deck, but not sucking the life out of the table?

I'm looking at a board-based, relatively aggressive deck that makes its threats pretty public

[gritty nest]

Essentially. I’d prefer not Voltron at the minimum as I think it’s a bit one trick

I’m sorry if the commander you were about to say is Voltron

[rigid scarab]

Aside from green stompy, I've been having lots of fun looking at [[Peregrine Dynamo]]

[lost widget]

https://scryfall.com/card/dmc/19/the-peregrine-dynamo

The Peregrine Dynamo <:mana3:292901508771610624>

Legendary Artifact Creature — Construct
Haste
, : Copy target activated or triggered ability you control from another legendary source that's not a commander. You may choose new targets for the copy. (Mana abilities can't be targeted.)
Jhoira stumbled upon an ally, not just a good source of spare parts.
1/5

[gritty nest]

Colorless?

[rigid scarab]

Super low-played commander that is essentially just colourless goodstuff

Chock your deck full of explosive legendary threats

With an ability doubler in the command zone

[gritty nest]

I had built a colorless deck before but didn’t find it fun, [[capitoline triad]]

[lost widget]

https://scryfall.com/card/acr/172/the-capitoline-triad

The Capitoline Triad <:mana10:292901508851302400>

Legendary Creature — God Artificer
Those Who Came Before — This spell costs less to cast for each historic card in your graveyard. (Artifacts, legendaries, and Sagas are historic.)
Exile any number of historic cards from your graveyard with total mana value 30 or greater: You get an emblem with "Creatures you control have base power and toughness 9/9."
7/7

[gritty nest]

How did you win with dynamo, copy shenanigans that led to flooding the board with tokens and/or effect damage stuff?

[rigid scarab]

So you can copy Annihilator

[gritty nest]

Eldrazi moment

[rigid scarab]

It has other wincons!

It can use new Eldrazis that aren't specifically annhiliator

But still pose extreme threats that can effectively end games quick

[gritty nest]

I technically have an eldrazi list, so I probably wouldn’t do the Annihilator stuff

[rigid scarab]

Millennium Calendar can ramp up really quick

[gritty nest]

But I can take a crack at it regardless

I forgot calendar was legendary

Do you run [[strionic resonator]] and friends?

[lost widget]

https://scryfall.com/card/moc/384/strionic-resonator

Strionic Resonator <:mana2:292901509060886528>

Artifact
, : Copy target triggered ability you control. You may choose new targets for the copy. (A triggered ability uses the words "when," "whenever," or "at.")
Its tines cannot be rung by mere physical force. Only magic of great power can start its eldritch resonance.

[rigid scarab]

Why not

[gritty nest]

I figured they’d be win more if they aren’t dynamo

But then again they’re redundancy in this style of deck

[rigid scarab]

I've had fun with [[Shanna]] as a lifegain commander

[lost widget]

Multiple cards match “Shanna”, can you be more specific?

[rigid scarab]

[[Shanna, purifyin blade]]

[lost widget]

https://scryfall.com/card/dmu/218/shanna-purifying-blade

Shanna, Purifying Blade <:manag:292901508654301185><:manaw:1007102126813610074><:manau:292901508754702338>

Legendary Creature — Human Warrior
Lifelink
At the beginning of your end step, you may pay . If you do, draw X cards. X can't be greater than the amount of life you gained this turn.
Shanna had heard Sisay's legend all her life. Now it was time to forge her own.
3/3

[rigid scarab]

Sure

[gritty nest]

Oh I was actually building an aggro life gain deck with [[aerith, last ancient]]. Never considered Shanna

[lost widget]

https://scryfall.com/card/fic/471/aerith-last-ancient

Aerith, Last Ancient <:mana2:292901509060886528><:manag:292901508654301185><:manaw:1007102126813610074>

Legendary Creature — Human Cleric Druid
Lifelink
Raise — At the beginning of your end step, if you gained life this turn, return target creature card from your graveyard to your hand. If you gained 7 or more life this turn, return that card to the battlefield instead.
"The flowers they ... they have something important to tell us."
3/5

[gritty nest]

The goal was drop a life link dude, swing, gain life and just revive whatever

[rigid scarab]

You can go with [[Xyris]] if you want something a little faster and slightly meaner

[lost widget]

https://scryfall.com/card/dmc/175/xyris-the-writhing-storm

Xyris, the Writhing Storm <:mana2:292901509060886528><:manag:292901508654301185><:manau:292901508754702338><:manar:292901508796645397>

Legendary Creature — Snake Leviathan
Flying
Whenever an opponent draws a card except the first one they draw in each of their draw steps, create a 1/1 green Snake creature token.
Whenever Xyris deals combat damage to a player, you and that player each draw that many cards.
3/5

[rigid scarab]

One wheel and you're threatening to win the game

If it's coupled with like any pinger

[gritty nest]

Has impact tremors

Plays windfall

Wins

[rigid scarab]

Or purphoros

Or razorkin

Or fuck it just swinging with 21 snakes

Fuck they gonna do about it

But one of my top picks

If you want like

A deck that just puts stuff on board

Makes guys that get big

And something that's at least somewhat respected by an average table

[[Ur-Dragon]] changeling tribal

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https://scryfall.com/card/leg/268/ur-drago

Ur-Drago <:mana3:292901508771610624><:manau:292901508754702338><:manau:292901508754702338><:manab:292901508872273920><:manab:292901508872273920>

Legendary Creature — Elemental
First strike
Creatures with swampwalk can be blocked as though they didn't have swampwalk.
4/4

[rigid scarab]

What the fuck

[[The Ur-Dragon]]

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https://scryfall.com/card/cmm/361/the-ur-dragon

The Ur-Dragon <:mana4:292901508712890379><:manaw:1007102126813610074><:manau:292901508754702338><:manab:292901508872273920><:manar:292901508796645397><:manag:292901508654301185>

Legendary Creature — Dragon Avatar
Eminence — As long as The Ur-Dragon is in the command zone or on the battlefield, other Dragon spells you cast cost less to cast.
Flying
Whenever one or more Dragons you control attack, draw that many cards, then you may put a permanent card from your hand onto the battlefield.
10/10

[gritty nest]

The only thing stopping me from building dur-dragon is how expensive it is

Iirc itself is still like $40

[rigid scarab]

The only expensive really in a changeling tribal deck is ur-dragon itself

If you're going with changelings it's actually not bad

[gritty nest]

True

[rigid scarab]

And the point of the deck is just

Changelings

And lords

And just slapping them on the board

[gritty nest]

Yeah, ofc

I’m guessing a bracket 2 ur dragon is actual dragon tribal lol

[rigid scarab]

Dragon tribal ur dragon is very easy to make bracket 3

[gritty nest]

I can realistically only see b3 dragon tribal if you have sunk enough into a good enough mana base

Because otherwise it would be too slow

[rigid scarab]

I think any half-decent manabased ur-dragon deck gets out of control very quickly on unprepared pods

Although like most ur-dragon decks it's very susceptible to mass creature removal

So like

Protection and recursion is gonna be in order

[gritty nest]

True

I need to quit yapping and go to bed

[rigid scarab]

Alr

[steady onyx]

hm

how is niko

im tempted to build niko blink

im just worried it may get out of hand rly quickly

i want to play maybe a more low to the ground blink deck

if such think exists

mnaybe just atraxa

[copper pecan]

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/N8ZI6cXU6mo

the numbers don't lie, and they spell disaster for you at the edh table

[glad peak]

If only they could spell

[gritty nest]

I have awoken

[gritty nest]

https://archidekt.com/decks/16914948/the_peregrine_dynamo @rigid scarab Started working on Peregrine Dynamo

[steady onyx]

if i wanna play blink/ i wanna polay a more low to the ground controlly style
brago
atraxa
niko
or others

[gritty nest]

brago

[steady onyx]

why tho

just so god?

[gritty nest]

atraxa would be too muddy due to too many colors, Niko is okay

Brago just allows more consistent blinking

[[reality acid]] moment

[lost widget]

https://scryfall.com/card/tsr/81/reality-acid

Reality Acid <:mana2:292901509060886528><:manau:292901508754702338>

Enchantment — Aura
Enchant permanent
Vanishing 3 (This Aura enters with three time counters on it. At the beginning of your upkeep, remove a time counter from it. When the last is removed, sacrifice it.)
When this Aura leaves the battlefield, enchanted permanent's controller sacrifices it.

[steady onyx]

i changed my mind ngl

i think niko

since i want instant speed blink

on commander

https://scryfall.com/card/dsk/410/niko-light-of-hope

also this art fucks

[gritty nest]

you can also just type

[[Niko, Light of Hope]]

[lost widget]

https://scryfall.com/card/dsk/224/niko-light-of-hope

Niko, Light of Hope <:mana2:292901509060886528><:manaw:1007102126813610074><:manau:292901508754702338>

Legendary Creature — Human Wizard
When Niko enters, create two Shard tokens. (They're enchantments with ", Sacrifice this token: Scry 1, then draw a card.")
, : Exile target nonlegendary creature you control. Shards you control become copies of it until the next end step. Return it to the battlefield under its owner's control at the beginning of the next end step.
3/4

[steady onyx]

i know

but it dosent pull up the sick art

[gritty nest]

you can grab specific arts

[steady onyx]

oh

i ddint know

[gritty nest]

[[!Niko, Light of Hope|DSK|410]]

[lost widget]

https://scryfall.com/card/dsk/410/niko-light-of-hope

Niko, Light of Hope

[glad peak]

Oh yeah this guy

[copper pecan]

i still can't get over how bad their haircut is

[steady onyx]

?

that hair is sick

[gritty nest]

better than the beiber bowl

[glad peak]

Someone played it here and had to be constantly reminded that the ability to turn shards into the creature that got exiled doesn’t trigger etb effects

[copper pecan]

it looks worse in [[niko aris]]

[lost widget]

https://scryfall.com/card/khm/225/niko-aris

Niko Aris <:manax:292901509082120202><:manaw:1007102126813610074><:manau:292901508754702338><:manau:292901508754702338>

Legendary Planeswalker — Niko
When Niko Aris enters, create X Shard tokens. (They're enchantments with ", Sacrifice this token: Scry 1, then draw a card.")
+1: Up to one target creature you control can't be blocked this turn. Whenever that creature deals damage this turn, return it to its owner's hand.
−1: Niko Aris deals 2 damage to target tapped creature for each card you've drawn this turn.
−1: Create a Shard token.
Loyalty: 3

[steady onyx]

which is good b/c [[phyrexian dreadnoguht]]

[lost widget]

https://scryfall.com/card/mir/315/phyrexian-dreadnought

Phyrexian Dreadnought <:mana1:292901508373282827>

Artifact Creature — Phyrexian Dreadnought
Trample
When this creature enters, sacrifice it unless you sacrifice any number of creatures with total power 12 or greater.
12/12

[gritty nest]

okay yeah that art looks goofy as shit

thats like

going to backfire regardless of how you use it in niko lol

[steady onyx]

?

[glad peak]

It’s fine with dreadnought but it’s more that it’s not a commander you play for blink lol

[steady onyx]

hm

maybe ur right

[gritty nest]

getting it onto the board will force you to sack stuff to make it stick
blinking it with niko to change all your shards will still force you to sack at end of turn when dreadnought comes back

[glad peak]

Blinking 1 guy every turn cycle is really bad

[gritty nest]

if you aren't killing the table that turn you are hurting yourself quite a bit imo

[steady onyx]

arent u just dreadnoguht on trigger to sac copy wiht niko and then let it sac itself?

[glad peak]

I don’t mind the commander, I’d just say don’t use it as a blink commander

[steady onyx]

free 1212trample

[steady onyx]

in the 99 of brago?

[atomic harness]

Thank you son

[gritty nest]

sure, you're down 1 shard

what do you do at the end of the turn?

[glad peak]

Thank you daddy

I wouldn’t even put them in Brago

[steady onyx]

let it sac itself again?

[atomic harness]

I am SwampertShoes

[steady onyx]

like youi should have a couple shards and this is how u would like end game

cause u can blink niko

and then u play dreadnoguht with trigger copy onto all your shards

and then end step just sac itself

[gritty nest]

i suggested brago already because you can just blink stuff more consistently like reality acid, [[agent of treachary]], [[reflector mage]]

[lost widget]

https://scryfall.com/card/m20/43/agent-of-treachery

Agent of Treachery <:mana5:292901508796645386><:manau:292901508754702338><:manau:292901508754702338>

Creature — Human Rogue
When this creature enters, gain control of target permanent.
At the beginning of your end step, if you control three or more permanents you don't own, draw three cards.
"The more secrets you have, the more easily you become my pawn."
2/3

https://scryfall.com/card/ogw/157/reflector-mage

Reflector Mage <:mana1:292901508373282827><:manaw:1007102126813610074><:manau:292901508754702338>

Creature — Human Wizard
When this creature enters, return target creature an opponent controls to its owner's hand. That creature's owner can't cast spells with the same name as that creature until your next turn.
2/3

[glad peak]

I like how people think I like feet because of my name when in reality I saw a pic of mudkip with little dog socks and loved it

[gritty nest]

based

i just think dreadnought is a silly idea when you can probably do any other abnormally absurd things with 10+ copies of a creature

[glad peak]

10+ copies of blighted agent

[gritty nest]

is that the unblockable 1/1 with infect?

[glad peak]

Yep

People hate it for no reason

[gritty nest]

because infect

[glad peak]

That’s not a legitimate reason

[gritty nest]

i know

i was just stating the reasoning regardless

all fun and games until i control 30 copies of [[Blightsteel colossus]]

[lost widget]

https://scryfall.com/card/2xm/235/blightsteel-colossus

Blightsteel Colossus <:mana12:292901508838850560>

Artifact Creature — Phyrexian Golem
Trample, infect, indestructible
If Blightsteel Colossus would be put into a graveyard from anywhere, reveal Blightsteel Colossus and shuffle it into its owner's library instead.
11/11

[sleek ferry]

https://x.com/bigtaketen/status/1981205480283525147?s=46&t=DdUsqNPs-c3IFDRYOhiq8A

benji (@bigtaketen)

I want to talk to you about my homie Mike Lam. One time, during game day for zendikar standard, I showed him my jund deck wanting advice. He pointed out that i had 5 bloodbraid elves in it. From then until the last event I saw him at he’d call me benny the cheater
1/?

X · Oct 23, 2025, 3:46 AM

[gritty nest]

I might honestly re-add [[Azlask, Swelling Scourge]] to Ulalek

[lost widget]

https://scryfall.com/card/m3c/136/azlask-the-swelling-scourge

Azlask, the Swelling Scourge <:mana3:292901508771610624>

Legendary Creature — Eldrazi
Whenever Azlask or another colorless creature you control dies, you get an experience counter.
: Creatures you control get +X/+X until end of turn, where X is the number of experience counters you have. Scions and Spawns you control gain indestructible and annihilator 1 until end of turn.
2/2

[tropic cape]

New deck boxes came in

[steady onyx]

thsoe are cool

got. asimilar one

but solid color

[copper pecan]

https://gamerant.com/magic-the-gathering-untold-stories-jace-comic-series-release-date/

jace: untold
chief, he is the most told character in the entire game

[sudden lava]

Not to mention extremely relevant to the plot this year

[copper pecan]

yeah he's been the closest thing to a main character this arc has

[gritty nest]

Those look sick

[lusty trench]

It's 3 volumes or gorgon sex

[fallow citrus]

this lifegain deck is actually so fucking annoying

I feel like I've lost every game I have to play a tap land

also landfall has snakeskin veil glued to their hand like it's their mf job

[rigid scarab]

I’ll look at this later

[zinc shard]

https://magic.wizards.com/en/news/mtg-arena/arena-powered-cube-draft

Full card list for Arena Power cube

[copper pecan]

thinking about [[bill feeny]]

[lost widget]

No card found for “bill feeny”

[copper pecan]

[[bill ferny]]

[lost widget]

https://scryfall.com/card/ltr/42/bill-ferny-bree-swindler

Bill Ferny, Bree Swindler <:mana1:292901508373282827><:manau:292901508754702338>

Legendary Creature — Human Rogue
Whenever Bill Ferny becomes blocked, choose one —
• Create a Treasure token. (It's an artifact with ", Sacrifice this token: Add one mana of any color.")
• Target opponent gains control of target Horse you control. If they do, remove Bill Ferny from combat and create three Treasure tokens.
2/1

[copper pecan]

who at wotc was like "the lotr set needs a card based on the guy who sold bill the pony to the fellowship"

he's probably the single least important named character in all of lotr

[sleek ferry]

Cabbage salesman

[zinc shard]

Booster Tutor gives you a pack from the cube

[past socket]

Sounds based as fuck

Adding Booster Tutor to a Cube I mean

[copper pecan]

that seems really busted ngl

[sudden lava]

https://i.redd.it/myjh54aipxwf1.png

[copper pecan]

having valakut in arena finally is pretty nice

[trail anvil]

and force of negation soon

[true bough]

Anyone down to trade for my high end foil foreign Magic cards for your LP/NM English ones that are $5-$10+ each?

Have OG Jace the Mindsculptor, Academy Rector, Jeweled Lotus, Mana Crypt, and others

[fallow citrus]

god finally clawed my way out of gold

[gritty nest]

Picked up some stuff today

[fallow citrus]

my favourite mtg card

Boyz

[glad peak]

In honor of the tmnt set it looks like they’re giving us a hype turtle spoiler

[subtle sierra]

this is standard legal?

or is this commander

[golden plover]

Standard

[subtle sierra]

cause fuck yea i love foretell

[copper pecan]

what do you even do with all this mana

[golden plover]

Would be really funny if it's the only foretell card in standard

[copper pecan]

are there any firebreathers in standard? i know there's one in alchemy

[golden plover]

"Gee I wonder what your foretold card is"

[subtle sierra]

i mean wouldn't this happen anyway if each color only really had one viable card

[golden plover]

Yeah that's kinda how it went before

Blue had two decent options, but most colors had one at most

[subtle sierra]

unless it's azorius and you're facing aggro

then you might have the alrund's be a fake doomskar

[trail anvil]

this card is fuckin sick bro

[subtle sierra]

it's cute yeah

idk what i'd use it for tho

[trail anvil]

fuck crackle with power is a sorcery

hold up an island and use [[expansion//explosion]]

[lost widget]

https://scryfall.com/card/tdc/287/expansion-explosion

Expansion <:manaur:292901509010817024><:manaur:292901509010817024>

Instant
Copy target instant or sorcery spell with mana value 4 or less. You may choose new targets for the copy.

Explosion
Instant
Explosion deals X damage to any target. Target player draws X cards.

[trail anvil]

oh duh [[comet storm]]

[lost widget]

https://scryfall.com/card/cmr/411/comet-storm

Comet Storm <:manax:292901509082120202><:manar:292901508796645397><:manar:292901508796645397>

Instant
Multikicker (You may pay an additional any number of times as you cast this spell.)
Choose any target, then choose another target for each time this spell was kicked. Comet Storm deals X damage to each of them.

[sudden lava]

It's literally in the main set

[subtle sierra]

yes summer thank you

i couldn't remember which of the icons was the standard one

[glad peak]

with UB sets nowadays adding random keywords, it's impossible to tell what's in the main set and keeping up with icons isn't feasible

[subtle sierra]

i just didn't remember which is which

it's aang's head and a glider

[gritty nest]

I got more boyz

[sudden lava]

Only 2 to remember at least

[subtle sierra]

uhh shouldn't this be in #1022912100185677955

i saw ppl talk warhammer there

[glad peak]

2 per set is too much to remember

Especially with how many sets there are

[sudden lava]

only 4 days till peak spoiler season debuts

[gritty nest]

Honestly didn’t even know that channel existed

[sudden lava]

I'm building a waterbending deck myself

[subtle sierra]

it's fine, now you know

[stark skiff]

lol the flavor of foretell on an expected comet is sick. Also casting it at turn 4 which is the year Aang has to train

[golden plover]

Hey sometimes it's 3 or 4

FF has like 3

Doesn't spiderman have 3? 4?

I think it's 6 if you count through the omenpaths

[tardy echo]

Foretell back in standard

[tardy echo]

Thrumming hivepool moment

[sleek ferry]

What are our payoffs for firebending btw

Do we have any current ones

[tardy echo]

It’s just extra mana no?

[sleek ferry]

Yes for the battle step

[tardy echo]

Idk just play opt 4 times and kill them w vivi

[subtle sierra]

[[pedal to the metal]]

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https://scryfall.com/card/dft/141/pedal-to-the-metal

Pedal to the Metal <:manax:292901509082120202><:manar:292901508796645397>

Instant
Target creature gets +X/+0 and gains first strike until end of turn.
In lieu of brakes, the Rocketeers installed a second accelerator pedal.

[subtle sierra]

Ig there's [[boommobile]] idk if there's a better spend mana to kill thing in standard

[lost widget]

https://scryfall.com/card/dft/113/boommobile

Boommobile <:mana2:292901509060886528><:manar:292901508796645397><:manar:292901508796645397>

Artifact — Vehicle
When this Vehicle enters, add four mana of any one color. Spend this mana only to activate abilities.
Exhaust — : This Vehicle deals X damage to any target. Put a +1/+1 counter on this Vehicle. (Activate each exhaust ability only once.)
Crew 2
5/5

[sudden lava]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/G4DXPWIXcAEs6Sb?format=jpg&name=large

Firebending Masters 😮

[trail anvil]

isn't this not standard legal or am I tripping

[stark skiff]

Hope they keep the flavor alive in that fire isn’t just meant for destruction

[sudden lava]

highly likely this is what prevents mana from being lost in each phase

[zinc shard]

it is in standard

[subtle sierra]

It's from aetherdrift

I kiiinda went through all standard legal red cards

[trail anvil]

I meant sozen's comet

[sudden lava]

Sozin*

and yes it is in standard

[steady onyx]

@twilit canyon sorry for ping but just have question for you since i was talking 2 days ago about this ish, I have rcq on sunday and ive been playing simic midrange for past month or two and been liking but a lot of my friends play control and that mu feels HORRIBLE, so recenrlty i switched over to simic aggro to try to have a better mu but it still feels bad and hell even worse maybe cause almost nothing survives starcage and even if i dont overcommit like im still jkust losing to the control deck playing farily. Do you think miodrange will give me a good shot at doing well? or nah and is it still ok if i dont have innkeepers?

[twilit canyon]

that match up will literally demolish you

[steady onyx]

no matter what

ok

[twilit canyon]

how much will you dodge control is up to the players

[twilit canyon]

no but the match up is so uphill

[steady onyx]

it just feels so bad

idk

[twilit canyon]

its gonna bend you too much

[steady onyx]

its made me legit like crash out a couple times

just it feels so rough

[twilit canyon]

the reason to play simic is bc u can cook the vivi decks

[steady onyx]

ah ok

[twilit canyon]

and its fine vs other decks

but

control just eats you alive

[steady onyx]

ok

[twilit canyon]

thats how it is

[steady onyx]

i think ill just bring midrange then

and pray to not draw the control mu

[twilit canyon]

yeah i wouldnt hedge into it either

like dont bother dedicating sb slots for it much

[steady onyx]

yeah i wont

[twilit canyon]

just try and dodge it and if u run into it, just try as hard as u can but

dont sweat it if u cant

[steady onyx]

i think i may just like

copy this list?

that did fine at another rcq

i own the entire thing

so meh

[twilit canyon]

no yeah this is a solid list

[steady onyx]

and then if you dont mind me asking about simic aggro

is it just a faster way to deal with vivi?

because the control mu dsoent seem easier

[atomic harness]

Tell em

[twilit canyon]

theres not much difference between aggro and midrange in simic rn

[steady onyx]

ok

its mainly ouro or not

im seeing mainly

[twilit canyon]

mhm

and

eh

[atomic harness]

Is there nothing to side against control fauwisty?

[twilit canyon]

ouro is fine

[steady onyx]

i mean there is

[twilit canyon]

all you can side into it, will still leave you dead in most spots anyways

[steady onyx]

the funny tech i sided was

[[vivian reid]]

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https://scryfall.com/card/fdn/234/vivien-reid

Vivien Reid <:mana3:292901508771610624><:manag:292901508654301185><:manag:292901508654301185>

Legendary Planeswalker — Vivien
+1: Look at the top four cards of your library. You may reveal a creature or land card from among them and put it into your hand. Put the rest on the bottom of your library in a random order.
−3: Destroy target artifact, enchantment, or creature with flying.
−8: You get an emblem with "Creatures you control get +2/+2 and have vigilance, trample, and indestructible."
Loyalty: 5

[twilit canyon]

the thing about the control lists is that they are really not a control list

[steady onyx]

i fucking love this card ngl

[twilit canyon]

its a midrange list

and it goes way higher

[steady onyx]

one of my friends is on jeskai other is on azorious

[atomic harness]

[twilit canyon]

azorius control destroys you

jeskai destroys you

but yeah

[steady onyx]

yup

its ok

[twilit canyon]

again ignore these decks

try and squeeze in wins

[steady onyx]

ill lock in for pauper tournament next weekend then

grind high tide on mtgo

and just sack some people

:P

[twilit canyon]

lol

[steady onyx]

its good to help me work on mental aswell ig

cause its an issue i have playing in ygo aswell

like i just get rly down from some mu

[twilit canyon]

if you have bad mental, you need to work on it most

[steady onyx]

yes i will

well i got standard tmr and rcq sunday so we will see how it goes

@twilit canyon one other question, is there a reason to not run like 1 of mistrise village over 1 island?

[twilit canyon]

mistrise can end up coming in tapped at the worst moment

this drop in consistency isnt the worst

[steady onyx]

and the benefit isnt good enouhg?

[twilit canyon]

but you'd rather replace a spell, rather than a land

and correct, the benefit isnt so huge that you'd give up a land

you'd give up a spell? depends on the spell you'd swap

but i'd take a spell and basic island over it in most spots

[steady onyx]

i get tjst

[atomic harness]

"I better keep my ass in that starcage, or I'm cooked!"

[broken fjord]

Had a player learn why an early Simic Ascendancy might not be the best idea.

Died to a double striking Valgavoth. Was a wild game.

[tardy echo]

@twilit canyon what’s the funniest single land that they could reprint into standard

[twilit canyon]

cloudpost just cloudpost

[tardy echo]

So true

I was gonna say just a solo of any of the og dual lands

[twilit canyon]

that'd actually be funny in a way too

[tardy echo]

Azorius players wanna complain about how bad their mana is? Reprint volcanic island to show them what a real good mana base looks like

[twilit canyon]

shoot would there even be any reason for any red deck to not play a playset of volcs

its basically free

[tardy echo]

It’s literally free

There is 0 downside to og dual lands

They even have the land types

It is actually a little fucked up that the fast land cycle got finished so late but also it’s ok this is just payback for forgetting to finish the cycle for so long

[twilit canyon]

yeah true

i actually dont know if they can keep making new land cycles that are interesting

i guess we'll see but i'd be fine if they coast by on land cycle reprints

[atomic harness]

dark depths

[subtle sierra]

Mistrise won't protect you from a doj

And you literally have no answers to that

So even if you get to drop something like ouroboroid, it's eating shit

The only thing that i can think of is that you might catch them off guard with a well timed spell pierce

But this is like

At 4 mana you have to only spend 3 and produce a board that threatens game next turn, so they have no choice but to doj/starcage you

That's simply unlikely

[atomic harness]

DoJ is crazy

Sigh back in my day we had Supreme Verdict, word me @twilit canyon

[twilit canyon]

precisely why we dont have it in standard anymore

[subtle sierra]

Hey i like my 5 mana clears more but it coming a turn early is so good

[atomic harness]

[subtle sierra]

I main 4 doj and it is my beloved

And i still side 2 ultima

[twilit canyon]

are u on pure azorius

[subtle sierra]

Ye

[twilit canyon]

cus if not-

ah okay

i was gonna say jeskai shouldnt

but azorius yea sure

[subtle sierra]

I kinda don't vibe with shiko

Idk

[twilit canyon]

dragon package too good

but thats just me

[subtle sierra]

Ik it's good but every time my friend tells me to play jeskai and tells me hey you get to play helix i just cringe

Ik helix is good but i just don't vibe with it either

[atomic harness]

Helix is the goat little one

[broken fjord]

Bought the last 6 packs of a spiderman box. Pulled a soul stone. No need to go into this set again.

[atomic harness]

Good job little one

No more psiderman for you

[atomic harness]

Hymn to tourach is evil holy

[twilit canyon]

we have technically better hymn on arena already

[atomic harness]

oh word?

[twilit canyon]

its an alchemy card for 2 mana that discards 1 of their choice

[atomic harness]

super hymn... holy

[twilit canyon]

and then they may discard a 2nd

[atomic harness]

Delinquent duo holy

Can you pull it up

[twilit canyon]

if they dont, u steal a card from their deck at random

idr the name

[atomic harness]

Hmm dont they just let you steal then

[twilit canyon]

depending the format thats a brutal loss

sniping a combo piece for instance or interaction

[atomic harness]

🗒️

[twilit canyon]

[[undercity plunder]] found it

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https://scryfall.com/card/yneo/15/undercity-plunder

Undercity Plunder <:mana1:292901508373282827><:manab:292901508872273920>

Sorcery
Target opponent discards a card. Then they may discard an additional card. If they don't, conjure a duplicate of a random card from their library into your hand. It perpetually gains "You may spend mana as though it were mana of any color to cast this spell."

[twilit canyon]

just 1b

in the midrange/control match up. can be brutal

also with dauthi in the formats now

ur technically able to steal 2 cards guaranteed

i think if i could pick 1 card to bring over rn... would be difficult actually

i think i'd bring over the initiative package

[broken fjord]

Telepathy is becoming one of my favorite asshole cards. Created an engine of Tidal Barracuda, Telepathy, Faerie Mastermind and Academy Loremaster. It was cancer.

It really does take away a lot of the political aspects of the game. It does draw a lot of ire, though.

Turn 1 telepathy is incredibly disgusting though.

[subtle sierra]

If you copy three steps with shiko, it just cannot be cast, right?

[broken fjord]

Three steps ahead?

If so, it looks like you can. You have to pay one of the spree costs though.

The initial printed cost is free. Then you choose which spree modes to pay for. So you do need to spend mana.

[steady onyx]

shiko is based ngl

but i get it

i kinda wanna also try that temur combo

but aint no way im buying izzet and gruul verges

or whatever the verges ineed are

maybe its just izzet

[tardy echo]

3c untap lands and 4c tap lands are next

[sleek ferry]

3c shock lands, pay 6 life for them to enter untapped

[atomic harness]

[[shiko]]

[lost widget]

Multiple cards match “shiko”, can you be more specific?

[subtle sierra]

[[shiko paragon of the way]]

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https://scryfall.com/card/tdm/223/shiko-paragon-of-the-way

Shiko, Paragon of the Way <:mana2:292901509060886528><:manau:292901508754702338><:manar:292901508796645397><:manaw:1007102126813610074>

Legendary Creature — Spirit Dragon
Flying, vigilance
When Shiko enters, exile target nonland card with mana value 3 or less from your graveyard. Copy it, then you may cast the copy without paying its mana cost. (A copy of a permanent spell becomes a token.)
4/5

[tardy echo]

Are they also triomes and count as all 3 lands

[sleek ferry]

Nah, that’s too good for a first untapped 3c land

[tardy echo]

The 2nd one though,,,

But fr I do think there’s a couple more directions to still go w dual lands

[subtle sierra]

yeah, your opponent pays 2 or it enters untapped

[atomic harness]

What about 3c filter lands

[tardy echo]

Or we could also just get our 27482748483rd manland dual land cycle

When all else fails they really like those

[subtle sierra]

did we ever have 3c manlands

[tardy echo]

The closest is [[cactus preserve]] but it’s commander only

[lost widget]

https://scryfall.com/card/otc/40/cactus-preserve

Cactus Preserve

Land — Desert
This land enters tapped.
: Add one mana of any type that a land you control could produce.
: Until end of turn, this land becomes an X/X green Plant creature with reach, where X is the greatest mana value among your commanders. It's still a land.

[fallow citrus]

it's so funny playing against standard reanimator

I actually don't think any neurons fire in their brains

[atomic harness]

[trail anvil]

haha big creature go brrrrrrr

[subtle sierra]

i think it's number 10 now

11

bruh

thank you

lmao

i only have cauldron cause it costs a mythic over a rare

[twilit canyon]

some people just dont understand control

[sleek ferry]

High noon is fine if you put yourself in a position to interrupter lock them

[twilit canyon]

you have no chance to vs a control deck really

they want to go late and interrupter cannot beat the creature land

they draw-go you better

[subtle sierra]

yes

exactly

i'm the control

they're fucking yuna

they sided it

anyways i lost cause i don't have doj

doj is god

[sleek ferry]

Yeah, you declare blockers, block with interrupter, bounce interrupter before damage, rinse and repeat. They need to not let you establish both high noon and a bounce outlet, and sometimes they still lose if you have 2 interrupters in hand. In an ideal world you’re also just making infinite map tokens with siren as well

But anyways interrupter lock literally requires insane luck/tempo to pull off

[twilit canyon]

thats just way too much convenience and luck to pull off tho and requires the control player to sit on nothing and never interact

[sleek ferry]

The issue is establishing your consistent bounce outlet, especially in a non town world

If only we had a wedding announcement type effect in standard sigh

[fallow citrus]

true tbh

they have no choice but to jam their reanimation spells bc I might draw rip and win off that

but also the deck plays itself so hard it's funny

monkey on a typewriter could win with it consistently

[gritty nest]

i used the last bit of trade credit i had to pick up eldrazi stuff

so i can just make ulalek more dumb

[subtle sierra]

nice ouro

[glad peak]

Thank you for complimenting my massive snake

[gritty nest]

[[breaker of armies]] good or nah

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https://scryfall.com/card/bfz/3/breaker-of-armies

Breaker of Armies <:mana8:292901508830330880>

Creature — Eldrazi
All creatures able to block this creature do so.
"There are some who have lost everyone and everything. They actively seek out the Eldrazi, eager for the smallest measure of vengeance." —Munda, ambush leader
10/8

[glad peak]

Very very

Bad

[gritty nest]

sad

im cutting it for ulamog the defiler then

my LGS didnt have an It That Betrays

which was sad

https://archidekt.com/decks/14847222/5_colorless The green cards in the maybeboard is everything I got today

[gritty nest]

i'm deciding between keeping [[Liberator, Urza's Battlethopter]] or removing it for [[Azlask, Swelling Scourge]]. What do you guys think?

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https://scryfall.com/card/bro/237/liberator-urzas-battlethopter

Liberator, Urza's Battlethopter <:mana3:292901508771610624>

Legendary Artifact Creature — Thopter
Flash
Flying
You may cast colorless spells and artifact spells as though they had flash.
Whenever you cast a spell, if the amount of mana spent to cast that spell is greater than Liberator's power, put a +1/+1 counter on Liberator.
1/2

https://scryfall.com/card/m3c/136/azlask-the-swelling-scourge

Azlask, the Swelling Scourge <:mana3:292901508771610624>

Legendary Creature — Eldrazi
Whenever Azlask or another colorless creature you control dies, you get an experience counter.
: Creatures you control get +X/+X until end of turn, where X is the number of experience counters you have. Scions and Spawns you control gain indestructible and annihilator 1 until end of turn.
2/2

[steady onyx]

@twilit canyon at normal standard not rcq went 2-0 twice against the non control decks then lost 0-2 instantly to control deck :p

but like deck feels unreal against anything not named control

rcq tmr and prob gonna be 8 people

and sadly 2 are on control

[sleek ferry]

I mean, if you get a good enough draw

[sleek ferry]

I have a goal of getting really good at limited/draft in the next 6 months

[steady onyx]

we shall see

[copper pecan]

from my experience the most important thing for getting good at limited is to develope a sense of what kind of cards are likely to be useful

you can't really approach limited cards from the same angle you would in constructed

[sleek ferry]

Yeah, I also think in the past while doing draft, I’ve locked in too much on like good for constructed = good for draft

That’s why I plan on doing a couple of Avatar limited/draft events

[zinc shard]

My big problem with draft was not taking enough high mana cards, so I'd get stomped in the late game

[broken fjord]

Played a game on TTS. People got mad when I looped my commander to wipe the board. Wasn't free, mind you and it was turn 10. Gotta be careful with who I play with I guess.

[atomic harness]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GaFvrUh1xoY

[sleek ferry]

It’s funny that urza is the 3rd best commander in this pic

[atomic harness]

Yeah

[atomic harness]

gwenom did nothing all games

[sleek ferry]

I don’t even think gwenom is the best mono black commander tbh

I think the theory of her is much better than the actual gameplay

[glad peak]

Should’ve played krrik

[atomic harness]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7THXAJZKZYQ

[atomic harness]

@twilit canyon huh this pauper U deck is really strong

turn 2 turn 3 huge sneks, cantrip turbo, sleep of the dead is rly cool

mental note, thought scour, ponder, etc etc

even has turn 1 delver... Holy

[golden plover]

Standard moment

Love that they waited until November after saying "hey Vivi is an issue"

[steady onyx]

@twilit canyon 10 man rcq
4 control players
3 midrange
2 aggro
1 grull idk?

im fucked lol

lost r1 to 4c

just got burned out

inevatble is a crazy card ngl

@sleek ferry it aint happening :(

[glad peak]

Not 75% Vivi? Not a problem

[atomic harness]

Sigh why is it so low

Even areo land has more control players

[golden plover]

Control just isn't playable into the only real decks in the format

[fallow citrus]

thanks wotc

[steady onyx]

and lost r2 to drawing breeding pool 4 turns in a rowe

like idk man

good mental is rly hard

[steady onyx]

lost r3 to [[stormsplitter]] combo

[lost widget]

https://scryfall.com/card/blb/154/stormsplitter

Stormsplitter <:mana3:292901508771610624><:manar:292901508796645397>

Creature — Otter Wizard
Haste
Whenever you cast an instant or sorcery spell, create a token that's a copy of this creature. Exile that token at the beginning of the next end step.
"We'll cover more ground if I split up."
1/4

[twilit canyon]

yea

[twilit canyon]

lol

[trail anvil]

I still love this card so much

I think it's my favorite storm payoff

[atomic harness]

so delver is good but only in pauper basically

Storm splitter is crazy

[steady onyx]

the gruul is stormsplitter combo like this deck is fucking based holy

i want it to win now

[tardy echo]

The only reason people have read enduring vitality in the past 3 months

[twilit canyon]

honestly true

[steady onyx]

i kinda wanna try battlecrier

is it good misty?

actually prob wont try it

[twilit canyon]

i mean it cant hurt to try it...? u can try it on arena

[steady onyx]

i cant tho

cause im bad at arena

[twilit canyon]

you're bad irl too who cares

[steady onyx]

no its liek

i dont have patience to grind on arena

so i cant rly build decks

i have old mono red built

and thats all i can paly

[subtle sierra]

if your deck is at least somewhat playable with 10-11 rares, just make a new account

that's how i test decks

and/or cards

before buying consult, i made a new account and tested it

[subtle sierra]

remove lands from that

but yeah 9 mythic is not happening

you have to assume around 6 mythics on a good day

look at the deck's core cards and if you can build it

like if i can build control surely this is plausible