Magic the Gathering

[stark skiff]

https://archidekt.com/decks/14106702/terra_herald_of_hope

almost ready to finish making this. Any recommendations?

[gritty nest]

[[chainer, nightmare adept]]

[lost widget]

https://scryfall.com/card/mh2/289/chainer-nightmare-adept

Chainer, Nightmare Adept <:mana2:292901509060886528><:manab:292901508872273920><:manar:292901508796645397>

Legendary Creature — Human Minion
Discard a card: You may cast a creature spell from your graveyard this turn. Activate only once each turn.
Whenever a nontoken creature you control enters, if you didn't cast it from your hand, it gains haste until your next turn.
3/2

[stark skiff]

forgot to say playing bracket 3 so i can include 2 more GC in there. I know I can be a douche and include Drannith and Braids Cabal but idk might just slot One Ring and something else instead

[gritty nest]

you could run the other braids that forces everyone to sack or you draw on endstep

[[braids, nightmare]]

[lost widget]

https://scryfall.com/card/eoc/82/braids-arisen-nightmare

Braids, Arisen Nightmare <:mana1:292901508373282827><:manab:292901508872273920><:manab:292901508872273920>

Legendary Creature — Nightmare
At the beginning of your end step, you may sacrifice an artifact, creature, enchantment, land, or planeswalker. If you do, each opponent may sacrifice a permanent of their choice that shares a card type with it. For each opponent who doesn't, that player loses 2 life and you draw a card.
3/3

[gritty nest]

or run more force sack stuff and run tergrid but thats just me

[stark skiff]

yeah i got that braids since its not as bad.

[steady onyx]

first out of 4 mail day for my new commander deck

[fallow citrus]

is there a level up commander?

[steady onyx]

no

im running atraa

atraxa :)

but i put all 23 level ups in the colors in

[fallow citrus]

oh sure

[gritty nest]

https://archidekt.com/decks/14847222/5_colorless What do you guys think i could cut to add in Emergency Eject, Flayer Drone, For the Ancestors, and Anticausal Vestige?

[trail anvil]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I6yXYvKOyrM this commander looks hilarious in brawl

she's just ripping so many wins from the effective triple strike

doing the best jeska cosplay until we get her on arena

[rigid scarab]

Holy

Wow

New top 10 flicker target just dropped?

[trail anvil]

well not just dropped, this was spoiled a while ago

[glad peak]

One of the top 10 cube creatures period

[tardy echo]

I mean if u won worlds and got a card drawn in ur likeness you’d want it to be good too

[ornate cedar]

It runs on turtle power (tm)

[fallow citrus]

the fucking office secret lair is up but still no dandan one

[gritty nest]

https://archidekt.com/decks/16677609/its_green_i_swear

I built this for a friend, what do you guys think?

[stark skiff]

its next Monday i think with the psn stuff

[fallow citrus]

oh I'll keep a look out then

[trail anvil]

https://commandersherald.com/taylor-swift-secret-lair-will-have-30-exclusive-variants-of-scornful-egotist/

@tardy echo

[tardy echo]

This would be fire

[steady onyx]

swifties amirite

[gritty nest]

have any of you built pure lifegain decks?

[atomic harness]

Crazy post @sleek ferry @twilit canyon

https://www.reddit.com/r/magicTCG/comments/1o618k8/and_im_tired_of_pretending_yada_yada_yada/

MH 1 2 3 = goat

[twilit canyon]

delusional magic players are some of my favorites

[atomic harness]

I like all of the modern horizons actually

Sigh... fury and grief
gone but not forgotten

[twilit canyon]

one day...

[atomic harness]

[[consign to memory]]

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https://scryfall.com/card/mh3/54/consign-to-memory

Consign to Memory <:manau:292901508754702338>

Instant
Replicate (When you cast this spell, copy it for each time you paid its replicate cost. You may choose new targets for the copies.)
Counter target triggered ability or colorless spell.
He wept not for what was, but what could never be.

[atomic harness]

[[Timeless dragon]]

[lost widget]

https://scryfall.com/card/mh2/35/timeless-dragon

Timeless Dragon <:mana3:292901508771610624><:manaw:1007102126813610074><:manaw:1007102126813610074>

Creature — Dragon
Flying
Plainscycling (, Discard this card: Search your library for a Plains card, reveal it, put it into your hand, then shuffle.)
Eternalize (, Exile this card from your graveyard: Create a token that's a copy of it, except it's a 4/4 black Zombie Dragon with no mana cost. Eternalize only as a sorcery.)
5/5

[atomic harness]

[[clarion conqueror]]

[lost widget]

https://scryfall.com/card/tdm/5/clarion-conqueror

Clarion Conqueror <:mana2:292901509060886528><:manaw:1007102126813610074>

Creature — Dragon
Flying
Activated abilities of artifacts, creatures, and planeswalkers can't be activated.
All challengers were summarily silenced.
3/3

[atomic harness]

Oh this one was from tarkir

[twilit canyon]

mh1-3 have some insanely good and fun cards

[glad peak]

Timeless dragon was a great card callback

[atomic harness]

Adding to this: force of despair, psychic frog, esper sentinel, kaldra compleat, sojouner's companion, ornithopter of paradise

[glad peak]

Mh1-3 was great (although overtuned)

Made the meta much more interactive for a long time

[twilit canyon]

yeah

ppl forget that the meta before mh was kind of fucking dog ass

and mh1 didnt push things enough in the interactive angle

[atomic harness]

What was it before? Jund city?

[twilit canyon]

no cus jund is interactive

[atomic harness]

I dont actually remember much of modern before horizons

[glad peak]

It was phoenix

[twilit canyon]

literally the purely linear deck

[glad peak]

And a couple other noninteractive combo decks like dredge

[atomic harness]

Dredge

Evil

oh Archmage's ccharm was goood right?

Kozilek's command

[twilit canyon]

yeah archmage's charm was solid

still is

just not as useful rn

[atomic harness]

kozilek's command feels insane to me btw I was watching mengu vids and he was destroying ppl w it

usually the first two modes though

[twilit canyon]

k command is sick yeah

[atomic harness]

But third and fourth are good too I think

everything is good

[twilit canyon]

yep

[atomic harness]

oh how could we forget lord high artificer

sadly old man is washed but he was fun

[twilit canyon]

eh he has a chance in the future i think

[gritty nest]

was arcum daggson urza before urza

[glad peak]

Btw in the old modern, jund started cutting red because…

[atomic harness]

[glad peak]

The third color had too much of a life cost

[twilit canyon]

red was bbe and that card was banned for a while and also, there was not much need for red at the time

[atomic harness]

oh also mudkip misty I like it when mhs reprinted cards so they become modern legal

Like unearth

[twilit canyon]

having to go back to their roots

[glad peak]

That’s how you know meta was too linear

[twilit canyon]

meltdown was huge

[twilit canyon]

literally

tbh, the linear meta happened again after mh1

mh2 truly saved modern interaction

[atomic harness]

mh2

[twilit canyon]

i remember after theros

[glad peak]

Yeah wasn’t a fan of mh1

[twilit canyon]

i liked it, but it was too safe

(on interaction)

[atomic harness]

Oh the only relevant interactions from mh1 were the forces right

[gritty nest]

is modern like the best 60 card format?

[twilit canyon]

force of negation thats it really

[atomic harness]

Nodding

[gritty nest]

is modern one of the cheaper formats?

[twilit canyon]

modern is often one of the best 60 card formats

[glad peak]

There was urza lantern which was annoying af

[gritty nest]

whats that

[glad peak]

Modern is currently one of the best 60 card formats

Any urza pile was annoying tbh lol

[twilit canyon]

real

[glad peak]

Especially the urza oko uro snow piles

[atomic harness]

is arcum's astrolabe still too good?

[twilit canyon]

but its fine to have them exist

idt astrolabe would be too bad rn

[atomic harness]

[twilit canyon]

tho i think u couldnt have it + uro in the meta and i think i'd like uro back now

ehhh maybe its fine

[glad peak]

Astrolabe was boosted up by the stupidity of oko + uro backing it up

[sleek ferry]

Urza’s saga has done more harm to the game than any UB card, this is facts

[twilit canyon]

yeah oko and/or uro

[atomic harness]

Nice troll buddy

Urza's saga = goat

[glad peak]

And by decks in pauper already having tons of synergy with it

[twilit canyon]

card had to get buffed and its still not amazing rn

[atomic harness]

[twilit canyon]

rhinos will return

[atomic harness]

One day

[twilit canyon]

i think they can unban outburst

[atomic harness]

Just how bad was hogaak anyway

[twilit canyon]

i get the fear of the reactive rhino temur/white/wubrg piles but i think modern decks can bully the fuck out of it

[atomic harness]

That was before my time

[twilit canyon]

gaak was dominant during its time tho i think it'd be a total fraud nowdays with the interaction we have

[glad peak]

Hogaak was fine (I played burn and 4 deflecting swats and 4 leyline)

[twilit canyon]

(barring a bridge unban)

i think we can legalize gaak as long as it doesnt get bridge from below

[atomic harness]

Oh yeah speaking of burn what killed that crazy eidolon of the great revel deck?

[twilit canyon]

and i think bridge is a way more unhealthy card than gaak

[atomic harness]

I remember ppl malding about it super hard a while back

[twilit canyon]

nothing much. eidolon itself is just a card past its prime

[glad peak]

Remember when people were saying sfm wasn’t going to be played because the oko Uro deck was too grindy and the other decks were too fast

[twilit canyon]

tbh

i think if hammer doesnt come up as a deck, then sfm probably dips in playability

[atomic harness]

Hammer is kinda washed now right

[twilit canyon]

yeah not the meta for hammer

[glad peak]

Near the middle or end of burn’s life it started to cut eidolon

[twilit canyon]

actually i think its like okay

its better than burn as a linear aggro deck

[glad peak]

Right now the issue is energy has too much incidental life gain

[atomic harness]

Ah yeah between like ocelot pride and the likes youre cooked right

[twilit canyon]

yeah and thats also like the only deck eidolon is good into

[atomic harness]

cant actually deal the 20

[sleek ferry]

Hasn’t hammer evolved past a mono white deck? I saw some people theorying it a couple of months back, I just can’t remember what color they were trying to splash

[twilit canyon]

and its not even good

[glad peak]

White blue

For pierces

[twilit canyon]

cus yeah they will either just only take 1 damage from eidolon thanks to the life gain or make it net 0

and now you're losing the race

to your own eidolon

[atomic harness]

Hows eldrazi tron fuwisty

k command is calling to me

[glad peak]

Super boring

[twilit canyon]

solid

boring yeah

[glad peak]

Like always

[twilit canyon]

solid tho

[atomic harness]

That's alright

[twilit canyon]

eldrazi are a deck for a specific player

u gotta like

really like the deck

[atomic harness]

Is karn here just to get a bastard floodgate for the opponent

[twilit canyon]

well thats e tron

i thought u meant the actual eldrazi deck

both are kind of boring

[tardy echo]

He did say tron misty…

[atomic harness]

Oh how different are they

and whats better

[twilit canyon]

oh lmao i didnt notice the tron portion

[atomic harness]

Thank you cake

[twilit canyon]

i'd say... they are kind of even

[tardy echo]

Tron plays faster ish

[twilit canyon]

just depends on what u are looking for

[tardy echo]

Higher highs lower lows sort of beat

[atomic harness]

Wastes... Holy

[twilit canyon]

tron gets to 7 faster, tho e tron is dedicated to 4 on 2 specifically

glaring fleshraker is a really solid card for enabling e tron rn

[atomic harness]

Sigh why is eye of ugin still banned

[[glaring fleshraker]]

[twilit canyon]

so u can actually hit some high mana values more consistently

[lost widget]

https://scryfall.com/card/mh3/7/glaring-fleshraker

Glaring Fleshraker <:mana2:292901509060886528><:manac:292901508943577088>

Creature — Eldrazi Drone
Whenever you cast a colorless spell, create a 0/1 colorless Eldrazi Spawn creature token with "Sacrifice this token: Add ."
Whenever another colorless creature you control enters, this creature deals 1 damage to each opponent.
2/2

[tardy echo]

Fleshraker is so crazy

[atomic harness]

Oh this card is nice nice

[twilit canyon]

the more proper eldrazi deck is on 4 drop -> 10 drop

[glad peak]

E tron and eldrazi are both boring af

[twilit canyon]

icetill explorer is annoying faf

*af

[sleek ferry]

Respect the new goat [[kishla skimmer]]

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https://scryfall.com/card/tdm/201/kishla-skimmer

Kishla Skimmer <:manag:292901508654301185><:manau:292901508754702338>

Creature — Bird Scout
Flying
Whenever a card leaves your graveyard during your turn, draw a card. This ability triggers only once each turn.
"Rising waters have flooded many old places from the dragon's rule. I do not miss them."
2/2

[atomic harness]

Sigh little mudkip chan... I just want to cast my thought knot seer

[glad peak]

Eldrazi is also the deck where you go chalice on 0 and chalice on 1 asap

[twilit canyon]

if thats what you are into...

[atomic harness]

Seer and k command yeah

[twilit canyon]

personally, i do like the pure rg ramp lists

even if boring

but they are both kinda boring

[glad peak]

If that’s what you’re into then you’re fine to be wrong

[twilit canyon]

my main decks are entirely prowess and goryos rn

[glad peak]

Prowess is always fun

[atomic harness]

I like goryo's yeah

[sleek ferry]

Tbf fun is in the eyes of the beholder

I find belcher to be boring as fuck

[atomic harness]

Goryo feels better than blink

[twilit canyon]

i have the cores to zoo and boros

[atomic harness]

oh I dont like belcher yeah

[tardy echo]

Simic ramp clears I hate to say

[twilit canyon]

oh and i'll always have burn

[glad peak]

Beholders aren’t in modern

I still have burn sleeved up from 2021

[twilit canyon]

i will never unsleeve burn

[sleek ferry]

Temur ramp clears simic ramp sorry to break it to you

[atomic harness]

Thugs what happened to your favorite broken deck ruby storm

[twilit canyon]

thugs is a ruby storm player? bro wants to play ygo when hes playing magic too

[sleek ferry]

Meta evolved, it fell out, it happens. Unless you’re Amulet Titan , your time will come

[twilit canyon]

ur not wrong

until they ban titan

[atomic harness]

Sigh... Titan actually outlived every deck

Insane

[twilit canyon]

titan has outlived all competitors

and will outlive all competitors

[gritty nest]

ive thought about trying 60 card, but all the people around me are turbo sweats

[twilit canyon]

and will outlive wotc

[sleek ferry]

Titan won a Brazilian event over the weekend little ren

[twilit canyon]

and will outlive earth

[gritty nest]

all they play is turn 2 kill decks

[twilit canyon]

and will outlive the heat death of the universe

[tardy echo]

It’s ok to be wrong

[gritty nest]

even when we did value vintage for fun they only did t2 kill decks

[atomic harness]

Is this the one you were talking about misty

[twilit canyon]

next universe: modern comes around again, and they will still be playing titan mirrors

[twilit canyon]

yea they play temur sometimes

[atomic harness]

Yoo malevolent rumble

[sleek ferry]

Just give me avatar already so I can firebend in boros burn

[twilit canyon]

it will not make the difference

they should just rip the bandaid and gives us pop

let the modern kiddos really feel it

[gritty nest]

in a 60 card perspective, do you guys find any issue with UB? all ive ever heard is chronic commander player opinions

[twilit canyon]

idc about ub

i think i like ub ultimately

[sleek ferry]

Probably not, but the avatar mechanics are actually interesting besides exactly waterbending

[twilit canyon]

realistically, not enough ub cards ever truly make a difference in a format like modern

standard has a lot of ub... but it doesnt really feel like it

[glad peak]

If the gameplay is good then I don’t care where the cards come from (unless they’re too good and gets super expensive)

[twilit canyon]

yeah

modern is also not terribly expensive rn

[gritty nest]

like vivi has to be a pain in standard because of that for example

[twilit canyon]

only particularly rough price decks are like

boros energy and goryo's?

[gritty nest]

how expensive would a casual modern deck be?

[twilit canyon]

like 500~

[sleek ferry]

95% of the good UB cards are stuck in cope hell in standard because there’s not enough support to make the deck not ass (looking straight at you Sephiroth)

[gritty nest]

oh

[glad peak]

2-800

[twilit canyon]

tho of course

[gritty nest]

fuck that

[twilit canyon]

some decks will go over

and others will go below

[gritty nest]

thats fair

[twilit canyon]

the average is like 500 and honestly?

[gritty nest]

but yeah thats not it for me if im unsure ill even like it

[twilit canyon]

its mostly sb shit rn

[glad peak]

And you can play for a lot longer than the average yugioh deck

[gritty nest]

and im not taking up learning at my local scene

[twilit canyon]

lands are never cheap of course

but those are for life more or less

and same with sb pieces

[atomic harness]

Oh misty are sire and world breaker like the best eldrazis for that mv

Also oh yeah I see the icetill

[twilit canyon]

for a ramp list?

[atomic harness]

Yeah

[glad peak]

The lands are probably the most expensive part still

[twilit canyon]

world breaker yeah

[gritty nest]

i figure most modern players own a playset at minimum of every legal non basic land

[sleek ferry]

Will the new elementals have any effect on modern you think? Or are they too fair

[twilit canyon]

sire can be teched in/out

ah that list

[atomic harness]

How do you uh get lands in gy for icetill?

[gritty nest]

god why is sire of seven deaths even used

[twilit canyon]

you run fetches

[glad peak]

So stock up on a bunch of shocks while you still can

[atomic harness]

Oh right thats lit

free fetches pog

[twilit canyon]

and ghost quarter

dont forget

[gritty nest]

(i whine because i want the bastard for a commander deck)

[twilit canyon]

icetill genuinely ramps and serves as the wincon

[gritty nest]

but yeah thanks for the answers about modern

i dont think ill get into it irl

[glad peak]

The lumra deck is sick ngl

[sleek ferry]

Icetill… Lumra card…

[atomic harness]

can you loop sanctum of ugin

[glad peak]

Why would you

[twilit canyon]

you'd rather loop ghost quarter

[gritty nest]

why wouldnt you

[atomic harness]

Oh yeah quarter is better

[glad peak]

You already have one of the highest ceilings in the game, what’s the point of looping sanctum

[atomic harness]

Dont worry about it

Are you meant to like kill their lands between sowing, world and ghost?

[twilit canyon]

who was that fucker running wandering minstral in titan

[glad peak]

Are you someone who would play wrenn6 in brawl and have no win cons other than pinging with wrenn

[twilit canyon]

yeah

[gritty nest]

sounds basic

im down

[twilit canyon]

one of your end games in controlling the game is just nuke their lands forever

hence why eldrazi are boring

tron is boring too for similar reasons

[atomic harness]

MLD... Holy

[twilit canyon]

nah

not mass

its one by one which feels way worse lmao

[atomic harness]

Real

SLD... secret lair

[gritty nest]

wait [[emrakul the promised end]]

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https://scryfall.com/card/inr/5/emrakul-the-promised-end

Emrakul, the Promised End <:mana13:292901508872142858>

Legendary Creature — Eldrazi
This spell costs less to cast for each card type among cards in your graveyard.
When you cast this spell, you gain control of target opponent during that player's next turn. After that turn, that player takes an extra turn.
Flying, trample, protection from instants
An enigma as vexing as life itself.
13/13

[gritty nest]

my lgs has one of these for $15. worth?

[twilit canyon]

ehh

if you're gonna play modern

sure

[atomic harness]

I wouldnt get emmy otherwise

[twilit canyon]

oh wait the other good emrakul is banned in commander huh

hmm

[atomic harness]

unless you have one of those like eldrazi commander decks the kiddos have

[gritty nest]

or keep it for when people piss me off enough with eldrazi tribal

[atomic harness]

Yeah

[gritty nest]

i have ulalek as a commander deck

[twilit canyon]

oh then sure

promised end is a good card

[atomic harness]

Go for it

[twilit canyon]

if you know what you are doing with it at least

[atomic harness]

oh misty how come nobody is playing aeons torn anymore

[gritty nest]

i only run 2 titans currently, Broken Reality and uh

not butcher of truth, but the other kozilek

[[kozilek the great distortion]]?

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https://scryfall.com/card/cmm/2/kozilek-the-great-distortion

Kozilek, the Great Distortion <:mana8:292901508830330880><:manac:292901508943577088><:manac:292901508943577088>

Legendary Creature — Eldrazi
When you cast this spell, if you have fewer than seven cards in hand, draw cards equal to the difference.
Menace
Discard a card with mana value X: Counter target spell with mana value X.
A void as cryptic as reality itself.
12/12

[atomic harness]

Great distortion? That card is goated

[gritty nest]

yeah this one

yeah great distortion and mh3 kozilek are the only ones i run. i only went with those at first because i didnt want to be generic "ramp cast emrakul die" and show eldrazi shenanigans without the titans or abusing annhiliator

if that makes any sense

[twilit canyon]

thats kind of the main thing going for them tbh

[gritty nest]

crap out emrakul and annihilator win?

[atomic harness]

I like annihilator

[twilit canyon]

yeah turbo ramp out to unfair conditions early

[gritty nest]

i like it, i dont run it because i dont want to hear people whine

i still get killed by turn 6 or earlier half the time though

[twilit canyon]

https://tenor.com/view/ivan-drago-rocky-mad-boxing-gif-12740361343431073274

[gritty nest]

okay fair

also i asked about advice for a deck im working on in another server

its selesnya lifegain reanimator btw

i was told to cut [[angelic accord]]

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https://scryfall.com/card/ima/7/angelic-accord

Angelic Accord <:mana3:292901508771610624><:manaw:1007102126813610074>

Enchantment
At the beginning of each end step, if you gained 4 or more life this turn, create a 4/4 white Angel creature token with flying.
As demons are drawn to suffering, angels are drawn to acts of benevolence.

[gritty nest]

and the green white talisman

[glad peak]

Honestly valid

Why are you playing mana negative rocks in green

[gritty nest]

because im a dumb ass

any other questions? lmao

[glad peak]

Uhhhh same

[sleek ferry]

@tardy echo peep game, deck is clean (ignore the fact I’m currently trolling by playing jackal instead of an actual useful card)

[twilit canyon]

baloth is trolling

[sleek ferry]

Baloth was also only there for the sake of testing jackal

Either ways, deck has been fun for doing dailies

[atomic harness]

Why were the merfolk worshipping half named eldrazis @twilit canyon

Sounds kinda troll

[twilit canyon]

cus they kinda mid

[gritty nest]

https://archidekt.com/decks/16695454/aerith_lifelink_aggro Could I potentially get your guys thoughts on this list and what i should cut?

[sudden lava]

My main lifegain deck moreso takes it away with lots of lifelink (and spirit link)

[steady onyx]

@twilit canyon i have a question for you related to standard, i was wondering what you thoguht about boros artifacts in standard rn, i saw a lis like this online and I really like the deck idea ands tuff but idk if like its actually good and was wondering what you thought since ur rly smart https://www.mtggoldfish.com/archetype/standard-boros-manufacturing-woe#paper

[sleek ferry]

Oh this is the deck you meant

This deck is bad

I tried it when EoE dropped

[steady onyx]

really :(

it seems rly cool

and i love boros

[subtle sierra]

Why tf would this run starcage if this is an artifact token spam deck

Like sure it triggers them all but lol

[steady onyx]

starcage is like perfect in this deck, #1 you blow up all munitions and do damage and remove opo shit second off u remove starcage and etb everything again for more munitions

there are variants where u even run like pixies

to replay the cage and burn again

i think this deck uses starcage incredibly well compared to any other deck this format

even if the deck sucks

it uses it as its engine and as hate twoards the other decks

[subtle sierra]

i'm aware that it's good if you bounce it, but this has zero bounce

there's a reason orzhov bounce stuff ran 8+ bounces

[steady onyx]

this is just one list, other decks run shit like pixies and stuff also dusk rose works

sacing it

and re etb the shit

[tardy echo]

Sab sunen is crazy

[steady onyx]

why?

[steady onyx]

in temur or in general?

the card feels insane in aggro

simic / monogreen

[sleek ferry]

Baloth is good in sonic aggro

But it’s trolling in a ramp deck

Misty is correct

[steady onyx]

yeash

tok thats what i assumed

[merry owl]

:d

[fallow citrus]

o that's a cool dark rit

[clever sun]

It's such a good art

[lusty trench]

New higher or lower game for edhrec commander rankings: edhrankle.com

[gritty nest]

I have the idea down better now I think for Aerith. Aggro creatures with lifelink to gain life so aerith can trigger and reanimate my aggro targets. I still want other pay offs for gaining life, and im stumped between 1 of 2

• do i keep the "at the beginning of your end/each if you gained N life, make a [token] here" and have a go wide still and use stuff like moonshaker cavalry
• do I keep the "whenever you gain life/deal damage, put a +1/+1 counter on target/each creature" and go tall, but not have the go wide, but focus more on the use of aerith for reanimating my attackers, making it more commander reliant

[past socket]

Say what you will about MTG Reddit and it’s part but it keeps on giving in making me glad I quit the site

[gritty nest]

what happened if i may ask?

[past socket]

Them thinking that “calling people animals is bad” is actually debatable

[copper pecan]

there's been this post going around calling people who like crossover cards "pigs who eat slop"

[twilit canyon]

theres like 2 user on the official mtg discord who had been going around trying to make that a thing but it failed dramatically

[steady onyx]

bro this actually pisses me off so much

like this more then anything makes me not wanna play mtg now ngl

[twilit canyon]

i dont blame u

[copper pecan]

yeah if anything gets me to quit mtg it's gonna be the players being intollerably annoying

[steady onyx]

like ngl i like the game tbf

i know hate me all u want

some of this ub stuff is cisk

[twilit canyon]

cisk

[steady onyx]

shut up

sick

[glad peak]

cisk

is that a relative to cis?

[steady onyx]

idk

[past socket]

In the context was a reddit post (now deleted by the mods) that I was shown about Maro saying calling people animals is bad when asked about it and the op actually claimed it was in bad taste to say that

[trail anvil]

idk why y'all keep saying it makes you "not want to play mtg"

what does the game have to do with some salty redditors lol

if it was people at your locals I'd understand, but that's people unrelated to the creators voicing a terrible opinion

[twilit canyon]

magic players are annoying

[sleek ferry]

It’s frustrating more than anything for me

People using anonymity as an excuse to say vile shit on the internet, when you know they ain’t never saying a peep about this in person

[trail anvil]

that's nothing new lol

that's kinda the trademark of the internet really

[steady onyx]

^

its people in my circles taking this opinion

and calling people out baed on their opinions

whihc to me in unacceptable

like you can have your opinions sure

but the second you are using derogatory speech twoards other people

[trail anvil]

sure

[steady onyx]

sory i miswrote then

mb

[golden plover]

Honestly it's crazy how much he fumbled the pigs slop thing

It would've been so easy to use two different styles of food and make the same point

Like yeah, if an Italian restaurant I went to for 20 years started replacing all their menu items with Thai I'd be pissed. I like Thai, but it's not the reason I'd go there

[gritty nest]

thats just rude

[rigid scarab]

I'm pretty sure the post was targeted towards EDH players actually

[gritty nest]

regardless

[atomic harness]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jEV6Or07XoM 4 thoughtcast no thought monitor no weapons manufacturing @fallow citrus

[past socket]

Originally meant commander players, though iirc kind of got co-opted by people who agreed with it to mean UB

[golden plover]

https://m.twitch.tv/magic/clip/CorrectSecretiveLarkWOOP-FM-qmZ-qEjZZDHGu?desktop-redirect=true

3 sets next year were originally aftermath sets based on the number of cards

[glad peak]

So how’s riftbound looking

Hopefully building a game from the ground up to be compatible with multiplayer makes it better

[golden plover]

I'm definitely gonna be eyeing up Riftbound and Altered as my tcgs moving forward

Altered just announced some big changes to help get collectors into the game and make it more player friendly

And Riftbound has a good competitive scene planned with RCQs and actually reasonable prizing

[glad peak]

Pretty good prizing and the gameplay isnt Pokémon, big for me

[golden plover]

Yeah, think I'll be eyeing the comp circuit for both

[glad peak]

I got so bored of Pokémon during testing for events lmao

[hidden ermine]

Is Riftbound actually good?

[golden plover]

Besides, altered always has the fun appeal of cool uniques

[glad peak]

Riftbound certainly is in the realm of good enough

[golden plover]

It's slightly better than a bandai game (plays very similar). So not bad, but less depth than magic

Unfortunately nothing gets to the same depth as magic (altered comes close actually)

[glad peak]

In the early stages I was a lot more hesitant since it was so boring

But with more cards and interesting champions, not bad

I’d argue riftbound has potential to be as in depth as magic one day

[golden plover]

Oh for sure

[glad peak]

But potential and execution are very different

[golden plover]

Like i said, I'm eyeing altered and Riftbound because both have enough depth

And have competitive scenes that actually support the players

Riftbound will likely be bigger tho (because Riot) since Equinox is an indie company making a tcg

But hey, there's some good alternatives now

[steady onyx]

yeah, i preordered the starter? set for riftbound

to see how I like it

and so i can play wiht my friends

and just see how in gerneal it feels

[sleek ferry]

Tmnt is confirmed to be a smaller set

I assume Star Trek will also be a smaller set

[golden plover]

Yeah, the other two are likely star trek and Hobbit

Marvel is being drafted during it's pro tour slot

They skipped spiderman

They really expected people to love aftermath sets, huh?

[sleek ferry]

Which is actually good, as tmnt, Star Trek and the hobbit only have so much material to pull from

What was aftermath’s release date? 2022?

[golden plover]

Considering this means there were 6-7 in the works

[sleek ferry]

So assuming sets are being worked on 3 years in advance

[golden plover]

2023

[sleek ferry]

They planned all these aftermath sets

[golden plover]

But still, crazy they would have had 7 aftermath sets planned for 3 years

[sleek ferry]

And marvel was like “you’re not giving us an aftermath set”

[golden plover]

Also, this like 80% confirms the UB in standard thing was a last minute change

Considering there's no shot they would have put a shitload of aftermath sets in standard in 2 years

[sleek ferry]

Idk about that. I think 3 year standard was more than likely the last minute change

[golden plover]

I think both were

I think there's no world where half of standard next year would've been aftermath sets

So I figure they were told by one of the IP holders they can do the set, but they have to be standard legal

[sleek ferry]

I mean it makes sense if you’re going to do 7 sets

The full sets would have been
Lorwyn
Secrets of Strixhaven
Marvel Superheroes
Reality Fracture

That lines up with the normal release schedule

[golden plover]

Well it's one short, but yeah

[sleek ferry]

You could just argue that 1 got broken up into 3 mini sets

[golden plover]

Maybe

Also, what I don't get is why they went so hard on aftermath sets. Literally all their market data ever said small sets didn't work (it was why they discontinued blocks)

[sleek ferry]

And in this case in non MH/Master set years, Marvel Superheroes is taking up that slot

I mean, I think if you are going to do UB, aftermath sets is the ideal way

Unless it’s like a massive IP

WotC just has to make sure going forward, they don’t get fucked by a company like Disney again

It’s inexcusable that all the marvel sets are going to be unusable online in their og arts

[fallow citrus]

execution on a riot games product

lol, lmao

[sleek ferry]

LoR

Current league

The MMO

[fallow citrus]

My other tcg is just gundam bc I cannot imagine myself playing riftbound tbh

the first thing I expect to fail is allocation of product

[sleek ferry]

Gundam is good, I should find a locals that has it. I usually like waiting a bit with new Bandai games though since their product distribution is always ass in the beginning for some reason

[fallow citrus]

I'm very excited for set 2, but we really need to see what happens with the meta

right now a lot of set 1 cards are still just better

[sleek ferry]

Remember with Bandai tcg’s they usually peak around sets 4-6

Shout out to rookie rush in dtcg

[golden plover]

Yeah Bandai tcgs crash and burn pretty quickly lol

And Bandai also gets bored of their own tcgs quickly too

[hidden ermine]

I wouldnt say Digimon crashed and burned

[fallow citrus]

I'm coping they've managed to keep optcg on life support so far

[golden plover]

One Piece is kinda an exception

[fallow citrus]

and digimon seems to be making a comeback

[golden plover]

So maybe they'll do the same with Gundam

But all their others are super dead and digimon is on life support

[sleek ferry]

I’m still convinced that Digimon could have been so much bigger if we didn’t release it during peak COVID

Shit was suicide for the game, yet it somehow managed to pull through and built a solid fanbase

[golden plover]

Digimon could've done a lot better if it wasn't during covid yeah

But also, Bandai being really hesitant to shake things up for like 2 years didn't help

Like the format was too samey for way too long

[sleek ferry]

Idk I feel like Digimon dealt with things in a reasonable time

You could argue security control was around too long, but security control was also the baby of dtcg

No other tcg has an archetype like security control

[fallow citrus]

thank god

there's like a tiny chance gundam can based off how shields work but I hope they don't

[glad peak]

Worth bringing up that flesh and blood was literally primed to die at launch because it’s a tiny company who made a game they wanted exclusively in person and covid happened right after

And is still going pretty well all things considered

[fallow citrus]

well

it's dead in the UK

idk about anywhere else

it might be fine in europe bc I know mengu goes to tournies for it

[glad peak]

Their worldwide circuit seems to be doing surprisingly well, I thought it would die with so little big events in the states

[steady onyx]

fnb is ngl good

i like the game a lot

[glad peak]

I liked lightseekers a lot but that died due to bad management

Fab is the closest I’ve gotten to having the same game

[gritty nest]

I keep seeing Reddit posts for someone wanting to start a new format

Looks inside: standard without UB basically

[golden plover]

I mean it's also on old rotation

It's not like super groundbreaking, but there's an argument to be made for it as a format

Their post on it was cringey as hell tho

[copper pecan]

remember when someone tried to do "commander without ub" back when ub was new and the format collapsed almost immediately because one of the mods of the discord server for the format was outed as a nazi diaper fetishist

[glad peak]

wait huh???

[golden plover]

Yeah that was wacky

[copper pecan]

what happened was the format ended up attracting people who had been kicked out of the community for non-crossover reasons and a large portion of those people had been kicked out for good reasons

[zinc shard]

https://web.appin.io/#/survey/GDwDH7vIB

Spiderman survey

[trail anvil]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1273785530986791052/1428068269495160892/G3TuikzXEAAJ1cD.png?ex=68f127b7&is=68efd637&hm=53a43e2f3d84221eb4644bf1904b0d68dc53ceb72c927bdbde7e6fd576584a4f&

[glad peak]

???

[trail anvil]

it's already closed lmao

[fallow citrus]

I saw loads of people on twitter posting it saying that they weren't the target demographic of the survey lmao

https://vxtwitter.com/TheTrinketMage/status/1978523048635425166?t=soI6xJ1xW11Uap-3NlDd8Q&s=19

The Trinket Mage (@TheTrinketMage)

Uh Oh

QRT: wizards_magic
We want to know what you think of #MTGxSpiderMan in our latest survey!

Take it here: https://mtg.social/MTGxSPMSurvey

vxTwitter / fixvx · Oct 15, 2025, 6:07 PM

[gritty nest]

Fair enough, definitely more appealing because of the slower rotation

[gritty nest]

wtf?

[past socket]

Holy shit. You learn something new everyday. Or, at least, I do regarding the Magic community

[sleek ferry]

I remember when I got into the game because of the command zone

And the older players would hate on commander so much more than they do now

Now they just started pointing that hate towards UB with the reason being commander players

[golden plover]

You still see a lot of commander hate

It's just divided now

Because there's older players who have only ever played commander

So now we've got like 5 hate factions instead of 3

(There's still people who hate the new border, they count ig)

[sleek ferry]

If you weren’t around for the meltdown over the walking dead cards you missed out on peak comedy

What was the name of the commander content creator who was almost crying on his video

Found it

https://youtu.be/au7gkdrrNtY?si=wWMPtyEGRKkQaWCE

[copper pecan]

yeah this is the guy who tried to make that format i mentioned

[sleek ferry]

Holy shit it was Mitch?

[glad peak]

wait commander's quarters?

[copper pecan]

yeah

he wasn't the nazi diaper guy but he set up the server that that guy was on

[trail anvil]

lmao wasn't he already publicly right wing before that too

amazing

[glad peak]

oh i thought you were saying he was the guy lmao

[sleek ferry]

Holy fuck this just got recommended to me and this is also peak comedy https://youtu.be/p2oBStKE1fI?si=0w6vO5772zoQiMXO

[copper pecan]

the server was full of people blaming ub on woke

and also there were people who wanted invoke prejudice to be unbanned apparently???

[past socket]

It’s almost like making something about hating a particular thing tends to bring out the worst people

Crazy stuff

[fallow citrus]

https://x.com/SaffronOlive/status/1978547549486080254

Saffron Olive (@SaffronOlive)

Lol, I don't know why this question made me laugh so much.

X · Oct 15, 2025, 7:44 PM

[glad peak]

Money? On cards?

[urban crane]

Played 5 man today was a pod of sliver krenko chucky zulodock(/jahoda) I was on Valgavoth

[glad peak]

Average commander pod

You’ll be fine

[urban crane]

Very cool people the decks were less

[glad peak]

Yeah the decks are residentsleeper but hopefully the people were fun

[past socket]

Ooh the punisher moth?

[urban crane]

Yeah

It’s my favorite deck

[past socket]

Fair enough

[urban crane]

Have had it since it’s release

Also quite upgraded

Stuff like barbs sheoldred zozu deflecting rollick solphim

[glad peak]

Maybe I’ll bring back the math question deck

Even though my friends hate it

[urban crane]

Wich one?

[glad peak]

Toralf + doublers + single target damage removal

Starts with people calling me stupid for playing forbidden orchard in a mono colored deck to them dying

[urban crane]

Also both zullodock players had metal worker cause ofcourse they had it

[copper pecan]

yeah communities where the uniting factor is how much they dislike something tend to turn toxic really fast

[glad peak]

But if I hate toxic then does that turn toxic?

[pulsar talon]

Aight new format

You draw until you have 5 in hand every turn, all cards cost 1 less colorless mana, every single card with a non evergreen or deciduous keyword is banned

Call it "Rush the Gathering" or smth

[glad peak]

Maybe even rush magic 🤔

[copper pecan]

rush magic exists already, it's called duel masters

[zinc shard]

Stonks day

[stark skiff]

5

[zinc shard]

Entering anything lower then a 4 just gets your whole surver thrown out

[fallow citrus]

https://x.com/CarlMeinung/status/1978566453969248443?t=TRJY_AYbv0bzrhs4DAtJyQ&s=19

Carl Meinung (@CarlMeinung)

After 13 years I finally got to finish this. 😍

X · Oct 15, 2025, 8:59 PM

sheeesh

[atomic harness]

Nice

[steady onyx]

apparently theres a pretty big pauper tournament near where i am

so i gotta lock in for this shit

[glad peak]

Jund them out

[steady onyx]

i think imma play faries

[glad peak]

But

Jund

[steady onyx]

i dont own it

and its soon

[trail anvil]

the spiderman survey is back up apparently

https://web.appin.io/#/survey/GDwDH7vIB

[steady onyx]

a i would love to play it as I suck at control decks and wanna play something more midrangy/ combo/ aggro (I rly wanna paly spy combo actually) but idt i can get cards in time

its nov 1st? or smt slike

smt like aht

[atomic harness]

Did we snitch on the content creators

[trail anvil]

nah

I'm no snitch

[atomic harness]

True true

[copper pecan]

weeklymtg was publically making fun of that question so i think wotc knows how silly the question was

[trail anvil]

it's not content creators' fault that the set is dogwater

[atomic harness]

maro has lost his marbles

[sleek ferry]

Blake made a statement on it

https://x.com/blakepr/status/1978856813056368807?s=46&t=DdUsqNPs-c3IFDRYOhiq8A

Blake Rasmussen (@blakepr)

Hey everyone, it’s been a while since I’ve weighed in on something on here, but since the influencer team reports up into me, let’s talk about this question (1/5)

X · Oct 16, 2025, 4:13 PM

I do think people complaining about this though is silly

This is also a very silly take lol https://x.com/fontmasterflex7/status/1978872766641348942?s=46&t=DdUsqNPs-c3IFDRYOhiq8A

Font Master Flex (@FontMasterFlex7)

@blakepr Appreciate the dialog. Would REALLY appreciate if the results of these surveys were made public. I get there is a loud minority about certain issues, but I feel gaslit very often from wotc mouthpieces about the reception of certain things, including Spiderman and UB in general.

X · Oct 16, 2025, 5:16 PM

“Why are you gaslighting me into saying FF is the best selling set of all time! Grrrrrr”

[copper pecan]

as we all know, gaslighting is when your opinions are unpopular among the general public

[glad peak]

gaslighting doesn't exist tho

[sleek ferry]

Mudkip got gaslit into hating commander players

[glad peak]

nah, commander players made me hate commander players

i guess more specifically, commander youtubers and people who take their word as gospel

[atomic harness]

Mr mudkip is gaslighting me into playing cube instead of cedh

[copper pecan]

i've been playing mtg for 7 years and i gotta say, i don't think i've ever seen wotc announce anything without seeing people act like that thing was the worst thing ever

so take anything the community says with a grain of salt

[glad peak]

i still remember when people were saying cube was the worst thing in the world

[copper pecan]

can't say i've heard that one before

[pulsar talon]

I did

Get your ass here @sleek ferry

[glad peak]

it was when i first got into magic i heard some people (it wasn't a popular opinion) saying on some forum about how cube will kill magic because no one wants to draft anymore and people will stop buying product or something

[copper pecan]

things i have heard people say are the worst thing ever:
every set since i started playing
blocks not being a thing anymore
arena
oko
banning cards
too many legends
not enough legends
horizons sets having too many strong cards
horizons sets having too many weak cards
alchemy
ub
the one ring
commander precons
commander cards outside of precons
commander
the spiderman set not having commander precons
play boosters
pick-2 draft

[pulsar talon]

You missed jace

Like on three separate occasions

[copper pecan]

oh yeah jace definitely

also kellan appearing in more than one set consecutively

[atomic harness]

Arcums astrolabe

[pulsar talon]

Loot too ig

And hat sets

[copper pecan]

arcum was so long ago i completely forgot about it

[glad peak]

remember when modern was going to kill magic because they replaced extended?

[copper pecan]

"hat sets" pisses me off so much. how dare a set have a theme

[glad peak]

people always seem to forget the changing of extended to modern was hella controversial

[pulsar talon]

Oh right

Stickers

That whole unset in general

[copper pecan]

oh yeah how did i forget about stickers

i didn't like stickers but the reaction people had to that was kind of ridiculously overblown

[glad peak]

i think the main concern was if they were actually good

[sleek ferry]

What happened buddy

[glad peak]

luckily it wasn't any good so people don't need to bring a sticker deck to every legacy deck

[pulsar talon]

Thoughts on cube, go

[pulsar talon]

____ Goblin caused some level of headache

[sleek ferry]

Terrible. Why? Because the number of people who are actually capable of making an interesting cube is like 0.1% of the people that think cube is the best thing ever

[past socket]

I heard of how powerful Oko was long before I got into Magic

[copper pecan]

the year and a half long period from m20 to znr had some really horrendous balance and oko was the worst of that

i think all but one of the sets from that period had at least one card banned

[glad peak]

i think there were some people saying that draft archetypes are killing magic but that's like rtr

[past socket]

It just makes me glad of how little social media I’m on

[copper pecan]

a lot of people blamed oko on "FIRE design" without actually knowing what fire design is

fire was about raising the power level of commons and uncommons but a lot of people interpreted it as raising the power of standard in general when it wasn't about that

[glad peak]

i blame all of eldraine on fire design, not just oko

[copper pecan]

most of eldraine's problems weren't because of fire design, they were because of oko and lucky clover specifically

and having cauldron + cat in the same set was a horrible decision but each of those cards individually are fine

[sleek ferry]

I mean that era also had the titans

The fairest set was probably Ikoria from that era of standard

[past socket]

I’m guessing it’s more just noting Eldraine being seen as the most egregious?

[sleek ferry]

Nah that entire standard was bad and while Eldraine had a lot of glaring issues, other sets def contributed

[past socket]

I wouldn’t know, that era was long before my time

[glad peak]

it wasn't THAT long-

wait

damn it was that long ago

[past socket]

I just only started playing late last year

Been fucking hooked though

still working on the kinks my Yugi brain gives me regarding mana distribution

[glad peak]

riftbound is making my brain feel weird with so many cards removing lands

and then lands being placed back so quickly

[copper pecan]

eldraine had the most mistakes in it but i think the companions from ikoria were much more egregious than any of the mistakes in eldraine

like that entire mechanic was just fundamentally unfixable

you'd need to commit to having that be a major part of the game if you wanted something like that to be balanced

[stark skiff]

For Gwen Stacy if she is cast and exiled a card. If she is removed and comes back can I play the first card she exiled?

[copper pecan]

[[gwen stacy]]

[lost widget]

https://scryfall.com/card/spm/78/gwen-stacy-ghost-spider

Gwen Stacy <:mana1:292901508373282827><:manar:292901508796645397>

Legendary Creature — Human Performer Hero
When Gwen Stacy enters, exile the top card of your library. You may play that card for as long as you control this creature.
: Transform Gwen Stacy. Activate only as a sorcery.
"Spiders don't hold still given any other choice, and I have all the choices in the Multiverse!"
2/1

Ghost-Spider
Legendary Creature — Spider Human Hero
Flying, vigilance, haste
Whenever you play a land from exile or cast a spell from exile, put a +1/+1 counter on Ghost-Spider.
Remove two counters from Ghost-Spider: Exile the top card of your library. You may play that card this turn.
4/4

[copper pecan]

no you can't play the first card

[subtle sierra]

Is it just me or mtga servers are shitting themselves

I edited a deck, it saved, go into a game, and it's my old deck

And i didn't get to mulligan

That one was weird af

[fallow citrus]

just seen some historic on my twitter

why does that format have better amalia combo lmao

[fallow citrus]

holy shit

I stalled a reanimator player in standard until they decked themselves

it got me an achievement 😭

[twilit canyon]

its like modern but worse and then sometimes its legacy+

[zinc shard]

Arena has a Brawl Metagame challenge queue up

WOTC is using this to test interest in a Ranked Brawl Queue

[copper pecan]

what packs do you get out of this? is it just random or what

[twilit canyon]

i believe its random

i gave it one shot but it was kind of dogshit

i got 7-0 real quick on a w6 control list

this format is cheeks

[copper pecan]

yeah ranked brawl sounds pretty unfun

i'd assume it would be all w6 or ragavan or something

[twilit canyon]

i played a lot of ragavans and a few ppl who thought it'd be cute to play something besides the cheap commanders like yuriko, ragavan, or wrenn

[fallow citrus]

is this not just duel commander

[twilit canyon]

much worse unfort

[fallow citrus]

sad!

[twilit canyon]

format is balanced poorly for a competitive environmen

theres very very little one can do if they go first on ragavan or wrenn and six

these 2 are the notable ones

wrenn in particular bc she can come down t1 and win the game from there with little recourse against wrenn

[fallow citrus]

yeah that sounds about right

[copper pecan]

once your opponent gets the strip mine lock out there's pretty much nothing you can do about that

[tardy echo]

Before strip mine was in brawl it wasn’t super bad but now it’s just horrible icl

[copper pecan]

it's crazy that they didn't pre-ban it

[trail anvil]

w6 desperately needs a ban in the format

but we're the red headed step child of formats rn

[zinc shard]

hopefully if this format catches on it'll encourage Wizards to try fixing the format

[gritty nest]

w6?

[past socket]

Wrenn and Six

A commander currently being the fun police of Brawl wirh the release of Strip Mine

[steady onyx]

wghat abiotuy azuasa?

or is it just w6 thats ruining it

[trail anvil]

azusa is miles worse than w6 cause it doesn't auto remove 1 toughness creatures and have the same reliability

[steady onyx]

mkay

[past socket]

Did I describe the deck’s impact on Brawl accurately?

[atomic harness]

Sigh my friend complained about my deck again

@glad peak @sleek ferry my deck got called plays like bracket 4 because I managed to do t2 ledger shredder t3 raffine (he flared of denialed it on yuriko btw) but then pulled out a turn 4 tivit by reanimating it

Nevermind the fact he always outs my stuff and consistently prevents raffine from coming out t3

[steady onyx]

😭

welcome to commander mr renren

[past socket]

Thankfully had better experiences myself

[atomic harness]

@fallow citrus I am actually going to lose it lmao it HAPPENED AGAIN. Last night's game night was so good but the final game soured it with that. While he was malding everyone just kept quiet too

Ive played the deck w others and have had zero complaints its reanimator its what it does

I didnt even win that game

[past socket]

Love your choice of Commander btw

[atomic harness]

Thanks kuri

[past socket]

Just feels like such a flavour win to play the Capenna Triomes with Capenna characters

[atomic harness]

Tivit was really strong that game also I can see why people like it. Ward 3 made it rly hard to kill and they all kept giving me clues while I went for treasures. Either way it was all p beneficial

[past socket]

Tends to be the wise choice with Tivit, choosing evidence

But eh, you get to vote twice anyways

[atomic harness]

Yeah I always vote bribery on my end

My solution moving forward is to just borrow my friends' decks I guess

It's like walking on eggshells. My bello friend pops off stupid hard all the time especially with pre-game leylines and overlords but thats like no issue at all

[twilit canyon]

stop playing commander

[atomic harness]

I would like to do that yes

[gritty nest]

stop playing magic

[atomic harness]

Also a good idea

[gritty nest]

if i could id play yugioh again

i genuienly love playing that game, and online isnt it for me with that

adam laughs but i dont care

that game was perfect for my autistic ass lol

[steady onyx]

pauper is based

legacy is based

[gritty nest]

pioneer based?

[steady onyx]

no

[gritty nest]

sad

[steady onyx]

personally i dont like pioneer

[gritty nest]

what makes legacy different than like modern vintage etc?

[steady onyx]

idk

i just like the decks better

personally

and ive liked what ive played so far

[gritty nest]

you can use any set?

[steady onyx]

vintasge is like meh to me

[gritty nest]

commander only or not?

[steady onyx]

hm?

[gritty nest]

like can you use commander only stuff in legacy because it says all cards are allowed

yeah, it seems like it

regardless, it sounds neat. Its basically vintage but with a banned and restricted list

[twilit canyon]

legacy is all cards legal + banlist

[gritty nest]

yeah

i can try to play that or see if my local scene still wants to do value vintage

[glad peak]

No yuriko player can judge another player for power level

[atomic harness]

Thank you son

[glad peak]

But also yeah stop playing commander lmao

[atomic harness]

Also thank you son

I've been playing irl yugioh again and it's a blast

[glad peak]

Tbh though it is correct that a lot of cube curators are worse than the most toxic commander player

The amount of people I see defending card choices that don’t make sense are tremendous

[steady onyx]

ive been palying ygo and its been horrid

getting drolled on mitsu feels likeshit

[fallow citrus]

I fucking hate this Kona deck man

it's so Arena coded in a way I can't even describe

well I can, it's just BO1 bait

[sleek ferry]

Which one, the omniscience one?

[fallow citrus]

yeah

[tardy echo]

When was the last time brawl pre banned a card

[tardy echo]

Wrenn and 6 recurs strip mine, lets you play better colors, has built in removal AND if you ever get her to ultimate you basically can never lose the game

Azusa does not do a single one of those things

• w6 is a better card without strip mine as well

Azusa is kind of bad unless you specifically draw icetill + a land that sacs

[subtle sierra]

if you're on uw you're favoured anyway

just negate the kona and demolition the counter blockers

[fallow citrus]

cavern of souls says no

they have 4 of it I have 2 demo field

[subtle sierra]

demolition

run 3

and you can hold get lost if kona does land

unless they also have protection for some reason

they shouldn't

[fallow citrus]

yeah I know how to counter it but like

the deck is just a super feelsbad pile

they will just have it and if you don't then you're fucked

[subtle sierra]

yes, it's mystic mine

[atomic harness]

Can someone pull up Kona

[subtle sierra]

[[kona rescue beastie]]

[lost widget]

https://scryfall.com/card/dsk/187/kona-rescue-beastie

Kona, Rescue Beastie <:mana3:292901508771610624><:manag:292901508654301185>

Legendary Creature — Beast Survivor
Survival — At the beginning of your second main phase, if Kona is tapped, you may put a permanent card from your hand onto the battlefield.
She's got a heart of gold, a nose for danger, and jaws that can pulverize a cellarspawn with a single snap.
4/3

[subtle sierra]

she just cheats

usually something big or omniscience

[fallow citrus]

also need to craft some authorities to main

these mono white lifegain decks make me violent

and I'm playing 4 seam rip 4 day

I'd cut starcage bc of reanimator but might put it back in

[sleek ferry]

Kona decks are decently fragile tbf

And people should be on removal with mono red/izzet being top dogs

[subtle sierra]

they are but i get aeri's point of it being cringe when you don't draw the out

that's why counter every kona with extreme prejudice

[fallow citrus]

yeah like ik what to do to the combo

I just dont like that it's a relatively quick combo that forces you to have the answer

[subtle sierra]

☝️

[sleek ferry]

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X · Oct 18, 2025, 4:06 PM

Tbh, the station lands were like the perfect thing for Kona

[tardy echo]

Amulet titan has been a top tier shell for how many years in modern now

[past socket]

I just understand Primeval Titan’s been a powerhouse for a very long time

[twilit canyon]

forever

it'll be around for the heat death of the universe

it'll be around long after the next

[fallow citrus]

it'll probably cause the heat death of the universe tbh

[glad peak]

It being the hardest deck is easily the biggest lie especially nowadays that will make it stay legal

[stark skiff]

Pick ups

[steady onyx]

holie shit

[past socket]

Hehe puns

[glad peak]

Been reading destroy all humans

Reminds me of how cool emergent decks were

[gritty nest]

Whale behavior

[atomic harness]

Amulet again @twilit canyon
It's actually gonna outlive us at this point

[twilit canyon]

as it was written in the bible

[atomic harness]

Izzet murktide has fallen, living end has fallen, yawg has fallen, cascade has fallen, jund has fallen, Dimir frog has fallen

affinity died, came back

Amulet titan is forever

Oh eldrazi Tron had some nice numbers, based

[[amped raptor]]

[lost widget]

https://scryfall.com/card/mh3/114/amped-raptor

Amped Raptor <:mana1:292901508373282827><:manar:292901508796645397>

Creature — Dinosaur
First strike
When this creature enters, you get (two energy counters). Then if you cast it from your hand, exile cards from the top of your library until you exile a nonland card. You may cast that card by paying an amount of equal to its mana value rather than paying its mana cost.
2/1

[atomic harness]

https://www.reddit.com/r/magicTCG/comments/1oa2s3a/got_too_many_comments_on_these_being_ai_so_i_made/

[zinc shard]

How many more times does this need to happen until people stop

[twilit canyon]

it wont bc of the nature of ai

it would likely be easier for artists as a whole to adopt to having their progression for pieces

[stark skiff]

https://tenor.com/view/pokemon-pokemon-horizons-pokeani-anipoke-lapras-gif-14514214902664208385

[past socket]

Also the lands aren’t that bad

[subtle sierra]

Some ppl just like their lands being lands, like actual scenery

[atomic harness]

Mh3 turbo @twilit canyon https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AcA-G07qMN0

[twilit canyon]

broodscale combo pog

[atomic harness]

pogg

[copper pecan]

god i'm so fucking sick of people saying "hmm this art looks slightly weird. clearly it must be ai" every single set

[fallow citrus]

ok I really need authority in my list holy shit

these orzhov lifegain decks make me want to cry

I'm also really feeling the lack of good lands in my deck

no fountainport, no verge, no archive, only 2 anchorage

[sleek ferry]

Could be a matchup issue. I’ve play decks that have a miserable time vs specifically lifegain

[fallow citrus]

I think it definitely is, if I don't rip day of judgment it's awful

also the orzhov one playing like 12 thoughtseize effects isn't great either

[stark skiff]

Who are these bums ren?

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Xksn4b7LYKg

[glad peak]

Oh it’s that commander lady’s husband and a flesh and blood player

Interesting, I wonder why the professor chose them

[gritty nest]

I’m selling my collection for warhammer

Who’s my army

[zinc shard]

I'm a big fan of the Imperium precon, the Necron is also solid

[atomic harness]

@twilit canyon @stark skiff @glad peak I want esper spirit guides https://www.reddit.com/r/CompetitiveEDH/comments/1oax1a6/will_there_ever_be_other_spirit_guides/

(I did not make this post)

[twilit canyon]

lol its not happening

[atomic harness]

Not even in modern horizons 4?

[twilit canyon]

yeah cus the cards are just

not built for those colors really

say vampire spirit guide -> pitch -> dark rit

thats already cooked

[stark skiff]

pray for reality fracture to copy planar chaos

[atomic harness]

[stark skiff]

https://tenor.com/view/oh-my-star-trek-gif-19129737

[subtle sierra]

[atomic harness]

I dont get it

[subtle sierra]

The blue spirit guide

They say it would add U and scry 2

[atomic harness]

[copper pecan]

https://magic.wizards.com/en/news/mtg-arena/announcing-the-arena-powered-cube

tldr; arena vintage cube sort of

some new cards will be added to historic and timeless with this cube

[pulsar talon]

Huh

Neat

[copper pecan]

oh god they're adding leovold to brawl

i don't want to debate steven universe with him

[golden plover]

Why the fuck do they think Leovold is okay in Brawl

I mean, I guess strip mine is still legal so they just said "fuck it" to brawl balance

[twilit canyon]

lets gooooooooooooo leovold

[copper pecan]

bonus sheet has a bunch of pitch spells on it which will definitely be playable in timeless

[twilit canyon]

we knew they were coming god bless

dress down, fireblast are huge specifically (preordain too to an extent)

the one thing im only weirded out by is why preordain is prebanned in historic yet ponder isnt

[zinc shard]

oh god dont tell me they're putting [[Leovold]] in Brawl

[lost widget]

Multiple cards match “Leovold”, can you be more specific?

[zinc shard]

[[Leovold, Emmisary of Trest]]

[lost widget]

https://scryfall.com/card/uma/202/leovold-emissary-of-trest

Leovold, Emissary of Trest <:manab:292901508872273920><:manag:292901508654301185><:manau:292901508754702338>

Legendary Creature — Elf Advisor
Each opponent can't draw more than one card each turn.
Whenever you or a permanent you control becomes the target of a spell or ability an opponent controls, you may draw a card.
"I'm sure we can come to an arrangement."
3/3

[zinc shard]

also its 1500 gems/10000 gold, and its a phantom draft

[steady onyx]

how does one practiec standard online not mtga

is there a way

i have rcq i wanna practiec for

but idk hownto

[fallow citrus]

mtgo

but same issue as mtga

[zinc shard]

the only other offical way is Magic the Gathering Online, but there are some fan made simulators online

[fallow citrus]

can join a discord and try to webcam play someone

or do it on https://spelltable.wizards.com/

one way you can test any deck using this is moxfield test hands with obs screen capture

I did that when I played cedh and didnt have the deck proxied

[steady onyx]

like i own deck and everything, just dont have online so

[fallow citrus]

well just spelltable then

it's webcam games so you can just play that way

[steady onyx]

mkay

[fallow citrus]

well you could also download cockatrice but it's a bit archaic and older in comparison

[copper pecan]

you will debate steven universe with him, oomfie

[trail anvil]

it's probably less annoying than in commander at least

brawl is very interaction heavy and we have way less wheels

[tardy echo]

1v1 means it’s much easier to hate out a single commander

Also part of why rofellos is notably less broken in brawl than cedh

[gritty nest]

There’s 10 more off camera

[lusty trench]

Got a sultai arisen precon for £35

[glad peak]

I don’t think rofellos is that good in cedh tbh

The mono green commanders right now all outclass it and even in kinnan he’s mostly just alright and much worse than any rock

[tardy echo]

Sure but he’s also still notably better in commander than in brawl

I also think they probably just keep it banned mostly for how annoying it is

[glad peak]

Meanwhile wrenn6 is much better in 1v1 mainly just because of turn structure differences

Duel commander is actually kind of sick

I think the only problem I have is 4 player

[tardy echo]

Mostly agreed

I don’t like playing Highlander for a few reasons but some duel commander/brawl stuff is pretty fun

Nadu was lowk tight

[glad peak]

I’m warming up a bit more to Highlander but only if there’s enough tutors or card draw

Just playing off the top randomly through a pile of cards that might synergize is just boring

But I do like old school cube so take my opinions with a grain of salt lmao

[tardy echo]

The consistency idm as much because of tutors etc but there’s something about card redundancy that I’m not sure how to word

[trail anvil]

w6 in 1v1 means you can strip lock anyone, remove every 1 toughness creature and all the while still just play gruul midrange

kinda like how ajani was banned in duel commander because once he flips good luck sticking a creature lol

[steady onyx]

anyone here wanna remote duel standard?

so i can practiec for rcq

[tardy echo]

Yeah esp compared to other g commander cards that try to strip u to death Wrenn just does so much more

[atomic harness]

@glad peak Cube

[glad peak]

Huh