Magic the Gathering

[atomic harness]

Unearth is just oculus no? or is there smth better to get

[sleek ferry]

https://youtube.com/shorts/O_ENDY7DH1k?si=KH5sMsOEWdEkItqa

[twilit canyon]

frog sometimes

[atomic harness]

my goat

both u and the frog

One day thugs will feel the power of turn 1 tamiyo (it's only okay)

[sleek ferry]

One day you’ll learn about turn 1 backside of [[grist voracious larva]]

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https://scryfall.com/card/mh3/251/grist-voracious-larva-grist-the-plague-swarm

Grist, Voracious Larva <:manag:292901508654301185>

Legendary Creature — Insect
Deathtouch
Whenever Grist or another creature you control enters, if it entered from your graveyard or you cast it from your graveyard, you may pay . If you do, exile Grist, then return it to the battlefield transformed under its owner's control.
1/2

Grist, the Plague Swarm
Legendary Planeswalker — Grist
+1: Create a 1/1 black and green Insect creature token, then mill two cards. Put a deathtouch counter on the token if a black card was milled this way.
−2: Destroy target artifact or enchantment.
−6: For each creature card in your graveyard, create a token that's a copy of it, except it's a 1/1 black and green Insect.
Loyalty: 3

[atomic harness]

I don't know how to flip it turn 1

[glad peak]

guess scam is in the cube

[glad peak]

I know, next

[atomic harness]

Valgavoth, terror eater. Ashen rider

[[ashen rider]]

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https://scryfall.com/card/2x2/173/ashen-rider

Ashen Rider <:mana4:292901508712890379><:manaw:1007102126813610074><:manaw:1007102126813610074><:manab:292901508872273920><:manab:292901508872273920>

Creature — Archon
Flying
When this creature enters or dies, exile target permanent.
One offering to appease her on her arrival. Another to celebrate her departure.
5/5

[glad peak]

Ashen rider has white

[atomic harness]

Sigh

Valgavoth black is fine

Is there a reason it can't be blue or white?

[glad peak]

I’m actually kinda sad I won’t be able to do my favorite old standard combo back in the day in this cube

[atomic harness]

[[sphinx of the steel wind]]

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https://scryfall.com/card/ema/207/sphinx-of-the-steel-wind

Sphinx of the Steel Wind <:mana5:292901508796645386><:manaw:1007102126813610074><:manau:292901508754702338><:manab:292901508872273920>

Artifact Creature — Sphinx
Flying, first strike, vigilance, lifelink, protection from red and from green
No one has properly answered her favorite riddle: "Why should I spare your life?"
6/6

[glad peak]

Jund cube, I don’t want to have cards only for reanimator

[atomic harness]

I am only versed in three colors of magic unfortunately

Esper is devoid of red and green

[glad peak]

My favorite combo: sun titan get back phantasmal image to get back phantasmal image to get back phantasmal image

[atomic harness]

Grave titan?

[glad peak]

Aka solar flare

Grave Titan kinda mid ngl

Inferno Titan tho

[atomic harness]

Overlord of the balemurk, boilerwork, or green guy

Inferno titan yeah

[glad peak]

Prime time too, since I’m playing lumra

Oh yeah the overlords

[subtle sierra]

Are we looking for reanimate targets?

[twilit canyon]

for a jund cube

overlords is a great shout

honestly, could also consider some new capenna jund cards

[subtle sierra]

What about ardyn?

[atomic harness]

I watched a vid Abt pro tour avacyn restored. Entreat the angels was cracked, holy. UW miracles won the whole thing
@twilit canyon

also wow mana bases back then were rough

The Geist of saint traft + wolf deck was rly cool tho dunno what it's called
Bant soulbond?

Tfw the best way to out Geist was your own Geist

[twilit canyon]

yeppp lol

geist was nearly unbeatable and answers fucking suuucked

[subtle sierra]

Wow i thought of the yugioh deck and thought that that statement couldn't be more wrong

[twilit canyon]

lmao

[atomic harness]

[[geist of saint traft]]

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https://scryfall.com/card/voc/155/geist-of-saint-traft

Geist of Saint Traft <:mana1:292901508373282827><:manaw:1007102126813610074><:manau:292901508754702338>

Legendary Creature — Spirit Cleric
Hexproof (This creature can't be the target of spells or abilities your opponents control.)
Whenever Geist of Saint Traft attacks, create a 4/4 white Angel creature token with flying that's tapped and attacking. Exile that token at end of combat.
2/2

[subtle sierra]

Holy shit this is good

[twilit canyon]

me when i have hexproof when the edicts sucked fucking dick

https://tenor.com/view/metal-gear-rising-raiden-senator-armstrong-punching-indomitable-gif-14166479420035208375

swinging for 6 damage helped too

[subtle sierra]

Oh misty since you're here

I don't wanna buy elspeth irl

[atomic harness]

Was there even good removal that format idts because like

The moment they got the wolf brothers out it was usually gg

[twilit canyon]

understandable

[subtle sierra]

Are there any new wincons for azorius in the spiderman set?

[twilit canyon]

ehh

not particularly

[atomic harness]

spider UK

[subtle sierra]

Sigh

Beza beatdown it is

[twilit canyon]

lorwynn is guaranteed to have some

but it will be beatdown

[atomic harness]

Sygg will be broken little Dempsey

believe it

[twilit canyon]

beza + serpent

[subtle sierra]

I'm not little, I'm big

[twilit canyon]

solar works out

[atomic harness]

you do have more attack than me

[subtle sierra]

I have put on weight recently due to stress eating

[twilit canyon]

unfort idt i know anyone in europe that has elspeths

[subtle sierra]

And addiction to ordering food out

[twilit canyon]

i feel ya

neither my so or i can cook consistently atm

[subtle sierra]

My current plan is like

To take dinner out in our work canteen

When I'm in the office

It's a full, decently healthy meal, for 3 euro

[atomic harness]

Good plan

you are stocking up irl

[subtle sierra]

It's a bargain

[atomic harness]

[[stock up]]

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https://scryfall.com/card/dft/67/stock-up

Stock Up <:mana2:292901509060886528><:manau:292901508754702338>

Sorcery
Look at the top five cards of your library. Put two of them into your hand and the rest on the bottom of your library in any order.
"We are now accepting over eleven different interplanar currencies, including polished moonfall!"

[subtle sierra]

I hate the card ngl

[atomic harness]

Sigh... it's good kid

[subtle sierra]

I need to sell like 2 copies of it and only play 2

It's what most azorius lists play rn

[twilit canyon]

its good but after u have had a taste of something like iteration or cruise or dig it feels mid as fuck

[subtle sierra]

And I'm a marang lover and i play 4 marangs

[atomic harness]

They just don't make em like they used to

[twilit canyon]

they shouldnt make them like they used to

[subtle sierra]

I was playing when both iterations were legal in standard

Copying expressive is nuts

[atomic harness]

Would delver be cracked in standard if we got it

[twilit canyon]

it'd be unplayable

[atomic harness]

Real

My woat washed

[twilit canyon]

delver is not even good in delver anymore

[atomic harness]

oh what did they replace it w

[twilit canyon]

drc in legacy

[atomic harness]

[twilit canyon]

if you're in timeless, hydroponics

if you're in modern, its by all means swiftspear

[atomic harness]

misty I miss ledger shredder

[twilit canyon]

or ragavan

[twilit canyon]

y

[atomic harness]

that guy's the goat

[twilit canyon]

its legal in historic and timeless

[atomic harness]

oh word?

[twilit canyon]

its good in both too

[atomic harness]

Nice

[twilit canyon]

just watch out for obm in timeless

[atomic harness]

Does arena have it nerfed or is that only for alchemy idr

I remember seeing a nerfed obm

[twilit canyon]

timeless has no nerfed cards

it does not have buffed cards either unfort

[atomic harness]

Makes sense

[twilit canyon]

obm nerf is for historic only

timeless players cannot experience a-symmetry sage one of the best 1 drops ever printed in blue

that card would go hard as fuck in timeless

[atomic harness]

[[symmetry sage]]

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https://scryfall.com/card/stx/56/symmetry-sage

Symmetry Sage <:manau:292901508754702338>

Creature — Human Wizard
Flying
Magecraft — Whenever you cast or copy an instant or sorcery spell, target creature you control has base power 2 until end of turn.
"By my calculations, I should be able to achieve true enlightenment before graduation."
0/2

[twilit canyon]

nahnahnah

[atomic harness]

What was the buff

[twilit canyon]

[[a-symmetry sage]]

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https://scryfall.com/card/stx/A-56/a-symmetry-sage

A-Symmetry Sage <:manau:292901508754702338>

Creature — Human Wizard
Flying
Magecraft — Whenever you cast or copy an instant or sorcery spell, target creature you control has base power 3 until end of turn.
0/3

[atomic harness]

Holy

[twilit canyon]

t1 sage t2 ponder/brainstorm swing 3 pass on stern or snare and soon fon

what could have been...

[atomic harness]

that's p gross yeah

I remember seeing a ghostly pilferer that didn't have to pay to draw

[twilit canyon]

hydroponics is instead the goat

[atomic harness]

[[hydroponics]]

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No card found for “hydroponics”

[twilit canyon]

[[hydroponics architect]]

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https://scryfall.com/card/yeoe/6/hydroponics-architect

Hydroponics Architect <:manau:292901508754702338>

Creature — Insect
Flying
Whenever this creature attacks, a random land card in your library perpetually becomes a basic Island in addition to its other types and gains "When this land enters, draw a card."
1/2

[rigid scarab]

Valgavoth

[twilit canyon]

make all lands cantrips over the course of a game and is a shitter enough to sack to flare

[rigid scarab]

Oh wait thats ancient

That message was ancient

[atomic harness]

wait wth this is cracked

[twilit canyon]

1 mana. 1/2. flyer, so above rate

and its all upside on attack in a format where you are incentivized to make your mana base 90% fetches

i once hit a strip mine off of it and i was able to fetch a strip mine

needless to say my opponent did not like that

[atomic harness]

gg

so like if say it hits a flooded strand
it can now also tap for blue
then etbs draw 1
And I can fetch normally

Does the game tell you which land gets buffed or not, like can you fetch your buffed basics for example

[twilit canyon]

it tells u when u fetch

ie attack trigger

[atomic harness]

That's really good

[twilit canyon]

on opponents turn, you fetch to use counterspell or whatever

as you search, you see that watery grave was buffed

[atomic harness]

That's cracked

[twilit canyon]

you search it, place it in, pay 2 life, and it draws a card

or say u find flooded strand as u said

i can use strand as a cantrip and as a mana source

[atomic harness]

Lmao

[twilit canyon]

and afterwards, use it to fetch the next land for hydro

[atomic harness]

Yee okay that's goated

[twilit canyon]

and its again, kind of a shitter so

[[flare of denial]]

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https://scryfall.com/card/mh3/62/flare-of-denial

Flare of Denial <:mana1:292901508373282827><:manau:292901508754702338><:manau:292901508754702338>

Instant
You may sacrifice a nontoken blue creature rather than pay this spell's mana cost.
Counter target spell.
"I see where you're going with that, and I don't like it."

[atomic harness]

Nb

[twilit canyon]

u never feel bad for the sac

[atomic harness]

Does arena have evoke elementals?

[twilit canyon]

yes

all 5

[atomic harness]

how good are they?

[twilit canyon]

fury is shit in timeless

the rest are as good as u expect them to be

shit in timeless, not legal in historic

aka worthless

[atomic harness]

lmao

[twilit canyon]

solitude is the goat for mainboard

[atomic harness]

Solitude being good is nice

[twilit canyon]

subtley sees play in some decks but once we get fon, its time is up

sometimes

the thing about it, is that lurrus is legal

the best blue decks that'd care for subtlety are the decks that would 1000% use lurrus

endurance is, indeed, the goat of the sideboard

[atomic harness]

Yee

I'm guessing grief isn't good bc scam isn't a deck right

[twilit canyon]

if you produce green and arent a lurrus deck, you are on endurance

grief is less strong yeag

*yeah

not unpopular tho

mono black midrange is a thing

t1 grief + reanimate on a mana base that can both use ancient tomb + strip mine

[atomic harness]

Oh that's not bad

[twilit canyon]

jund goyfs are decent too

[subtle sierra]

Three of my favorite words...

[twilit canyon]

but you often cant 2 for 1 hand hate in that list for the aforementioned strip mine shaped elephant in the room

[atomic harness]

Does timeless have/play thoughtseize?

[twilit canyon]

of course

thoughtseize, iok, dark ritual

[atomic harness]

iok

[twilit canyon]

opp agent and dauthi

[atomic harness]

holy black looks strong there

[twilit canyon]

a turn 1 swamp pass flash in opp agent on a fetch wins games

and of course can never go wrong with barrowgoyf just winning games on its own

[atomic harness]

[[barrowgoyf]]

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https://scryfall.com/card/aa2/7/barrowgoyf

Barrowgoyf <:mana2:292901509060886528><:manab:292901508872273920>

Creature — Lhurgoyf
Deathtouch, lifelink
Barrowgoyf's power is equal to the number of card types among cards in all graveyards and its toughness is equal to that number plus 1.
Whenever this creature deals combat damage to a player, you may mill that many cards. If you do, you may put a creature card from among them into your hand.
*/1+*

[twilit canyon]

oh you do have obm and full power one ring as well

[atomic harness]

huh what the hell this is crazy

is this digital only

[twilit canyon]

modern players dont know about barrowgoyf pyrogoyf combo

no

they came out in mh3

commander

[atomic harness]

OH it's from that goyf precon isn't it

[twilit canyon]

they have been defining legacy midrange for a while

yrah

[[pyrogoyf]]

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https://scryfall.com/card/aa2/12/pyrogoyf

Pyrogoyf <:mana3:292901508771610624><:manar:292901508796645397>

Creature — Lhurgoyf
Pyrogoyf's power is equal to the number of card types among cards in all graveyards and its toughness is equal to that number plus 1.
Whenever this creature or another Lhurgoyf creature you control enters, that creature deals damage equal to its power to any target.
*/1+*

[twilit canyon]

that creature is like atlas holding the world for this card

cus it lets barrowgoyf kill anyone

[atomic harness]

Those two work really well yeah nb

is it rakdos goyf?

[twilit canyon]

no

its either mono black

or jund

[subtle sierra]

Holy I've been looking through spiderman cards

[twilit canyon]

you have too good mana to not play jund

[subtle sierra]

[[parker luck]] reveal annex??

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https://scryfall.com/card/spm/60/parker-luck

Parker Luck <:mana2:292901509060886528><:manab:292901508872273920>

Enchantment
At the beginning of your end step, two target players each reveal the top card of their library. They each lose life equal to the mana value of the card revealed by the other player. Then they each put the card they revealed into their hand.
"Things have gotta go my way eventually, right?"

[twilit canyon]

also drs is legal

[atomic harness]

This kid is looking at spiderman cards

[subtle sierra]

They're pictures of spiderman

[twilit canyon]

its cute for sure

the only real downside is honestly just

[subtle sierra]

I haven't played mtg for like a month since i was busy

[atomic harness]

I like that dumb rent card

[twilit canyon]

not getting a demon option

[atomic harness]

oh I will say fuwisty I rly liked the omenpaths cards

[subtle sierra]

The lorwyn black fairy thing looks cute too

[atomic harness]

Tho ofc we're never getting them irl

[twilit canyon]

its just that

dont fall for flash bitterblossom

[subtle sierra]

And avatar is bringing back heartless act to standard

[atomic harness]

oh this is bait?

[twilit canyon]

bitterblossom has more problems than not being able to be played at instant speed

the card falls behind real fast

[atomic harness]

nodding

card is washed now

[twilit canyon]

im sure it will still see some play

[atomic harness]

Prolly playable ya

[twilit canyon]

but i wouldnt go into it expecting it to carry anything

[atomic harness]

Is the new sygg playable? I like sygg

[twilit canyon]

its okay at a glance

same deal

the new evoke elementals sound strong

the w/b one revealed seems great

[subtle sierra]

Yeah I'd wanna play those

If i transition into mono black

[twilit canyon]

if you play mono black online, u gotta do it in timeless

[subtle sierra]

And play some two color lands so that you drop the full thing lategame

[twilit canyon]

good news, we do have godless shrine

and the verges tap for black

aka your splash is free

[subtle sierra]

We'll have all the shocklands with lorwyn anyway

[twilit canyon]

yeah lol

[subtle sierra]

Idk if i like the dimir elemental

Like yeah it's ok but

[twilit canyon]

yeah its... okay

idk if it actually goes off how it wants to play

[subtle sierra]

If you drop it late like

[twilit canyon]

thats a ton of mana

[subtle sierra]

Oh no you checked my hand turn 6

[twilit canyon]

its like

fine in a control mirror

in a sense

but then you are dimir vs azorius

historically, that never ends well for the deck in black

[subtle sierra]

Ngl i wish it could bounce itself

And had a different black effect

That would have been 🔥

[twilit canyon]

black hand hate is fine

[atomic harness]

Azorius = goat

Don't tell anyone though

[twilit canyon]

bouncing itself tho? they did that to prevent loops

[subtle sierra]

I want loops...

https://tenor.com/view/cat-jump-box-gif-5849914

Me

[atomic harness]

Fuwisty is charbelcher the new hotness again in modern

saw that and esper goryo and some other deck idr in the top 8

[twilit canyon]

new? no

popular again? yeah

[atomic harness]

Oh it had a word I didn't recognize in front of it

must be a new card

[twilit canyon]

idt it added a new card?

just a technical definition?

[atomic harness]

Ahh okay let me look it up

[twilit canyon]

im thinking of the pt winner idt they played anything new

[atomic harness]

Tameshi there it is. Is that a card or named after a player or

[twilit canyon]

tameshi is a card from kamigawa neon dynasty

been one of the centerpieces of belcher

[atomic harness]

[[tameshi]]

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https://scryfall.com/card/neo/82/tameshi-reality-architect

Tameshi, Reality Architect <:mana2:292901509060886528><:manau:292901508754702338>

Legendary Creature — Moonfolk Wizard
Whenever one or more noncreature permanents are returned to hand, draw a card. This ability triggers only once each turn.
, Return a land you control to its owner's hand: Return target artifact or enchantment card with mana value X or less from your graveyard to the battlefield. Activate only as a sorcery.
2/3

[atomic harness]

oo

[twilit canyon]

t1 bloom

t2 -> 3 defend yourself

t4 bloom, tameshi, sac bloom for white, get back bloom, sac it again and repeat for up to 9 mana

gives room for belcher activation + jwari + you have 3 blue spells in hand for possible disruption

[atomic harness]

Naruhodo

Did anything change for titan? Oh icetill is new

echoing deeps (is that new?)

With riddler
are you supposed to dump everything w frog so that you can draw 2 while hitting dummy hard?

[twilit canyon]

icetill is new yeah

[twilit canyon]

yep

well

depends on the hand of course

[twilit canyon]

this frog reanim list is so good

[atomic harness]

I like it a lot. also just noticed the 4 solitude holy

Is esper goryo better than esper blink? I like blink too w phelia emperor of bones frog and stuff

[twilit canyon]

goryo's is just too much potential advantage imo

the blink stuff is not bad yeah but like

[twilit canyon]

flipping an atraxa off a no card hand is 🐐

[atomic harness]

Yeah that makes sense

blink kinda takes a while

[twilit canyon]

yeah the blink list is more consistent overall

but

riddler is enough to shore up the difference between decks

as a result, its kinda preference? but i clearly lie in the goryo side

[atomic harness]

gotcha
Is there a reason blink is on subtlety over solitude?

could you run both

[twilit canyon]

theres a lot of creatures in modern

that have impactful etbs

or can do their business even tho they get removed effectively

solitude isnt bad tho of course

just subtlety has a strong niche rn

[atomic harness]

Yeah the one guy was mainboarding 4

subtlety finally good again holy

[[hydroelectric specimen]]

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https://scryfall.com/card/mh3/240/hydroelectric-specimen-hydroelectric-laboratory

Hydroelectric Specimen <:mana2:292901509060886528><:manau:292901508754702338>

Creature — Weird
Flash
When this creature enters, you may change the target of target instant or sorcery spell with a single target to this creature.
Whenever the research team stepped out, the specimen emerged to conduct experiments of its own.
1/4

Hydroelectric Laboratory
Land
As this land enters, you may pay 3 life. If you don't, it enters tapped.
: Add .
As long as the scientists were present, the specimen floated patiently or swam quietly about, biding its time, watching.

[atomic harness]

What are you usually trying to blank w the front side?

[twilit canyon]

removal on tameshi

again, another reason for subtelty

[atomic harness]

Oh this is also subtelty fodder

[twilit canyon]

das right

all of belcher is

[atomic harness]

sink into stupor finally washed??!

[twilit canyon]

sink into stupor is also subtlety fodder if need be

[atomic harness]

Ah yuh

What was that card that like killed a guy and exiled their yard
That's good for sideboard right

[twilit canyon]

its fine

[atomic harness]

Hmm how does the UW deck stabilize against like say belcher, boros energy (this is still a thing right just didn't top) , or the esper decks

[twilit canyon]

azorius is the 2nd best deck of course

[atomic harness]

oh wow

[twilit canyon]

its somewhat a joke

but the deck clearly did well

[atomic harness]

yeah I was surprised

[twilit canyon]

but they stablize a lot better than you expect

thanks to [[isochron scepter]]

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https://scryfall.com/card/2xm/264/isochron-scepter

Isochron Scepter <:mana2:292901509060886528>

Artifact
Imprint — When this artifact enters, you may exile an instant card with mana value 2 or less from your hand.
, : You may copy the exiled card. If you do, you may cast the copy without paying its mana cost.

[twilit canyon]

scepter -> counterspell

narset in play

t3feri

[atomic harness]

oh that's dirty

[twilit canyon]

gg

[atomic harness]

Neoform is like the highrolly deck right
pull it off win on the spot?

[twilit canyon]

aka they simplify the game state to the point where the game ends on the scepter cs resolution

[twilit canyon]

yeah

not nearly as resilient as belcher

[atomic harness]

hmm is Dimir oculus // frogtide washed you think?

like Esper blink or goryo is just better or n

[twilit canyon]

yes and no

there is merit to a more honest game plan

but

the strength of the blink and goryo versions of the deck just gets better and better and the weaknesses of both slip and slip

[atomic harness]

Modern looks nice rn I'd probably play blink or boryo

Grixis reanimator might be fraudulent

[twilit canyon]

its the goryo list but worse more or less

imo

[atomic harness]

Ya

[twilit canyon]

frog decks just dont need faithless looting

[atomic harness]

Looting = noob
mending = goat

[twilit canyon]

yes and no

mending just being an instant helps the deck way more

[atomic harness]

Ahh okay

[twilit canyon]

hmmm how to put it... cus looting isnt exactly "noob" its more

the card was banned for a reason

but that reason is just not nearly as dangerous in modern

[atomic harness]

Yeah that makes sense

Rn im looking at sideboard stuff

[[clarion conqueror]]

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https://scryfall.com/card/tdm/5/clarion-conqueror

Clarion Conqueror <:mana2:292901509060886528><:manaw:1007102126813610074>

Creature — Dragon
Flying
Activated abilities of artifacts, creatures, and planeswalkers can't be activated.
All challengers were summarily silenced.
3/3

[twilit canyon]

the goat

[atomic harness]

[[Lavinia]]

[lost widget]

Multiple cards match “Lavinia”, can you be more specific?

[atomic harness]

clarion into belcher?

[twilit canyon]

and affinity

[atomic harness]

affinity is real?

haven't heard of that deck in eons...

[twilit canyon]

of course

[atomic harness]

Mox opal-chan...

[twilit canyon]

emissary is busted

t1 emissary, -> memnite -> mopal -> springleaf -> thought monitor

is one hell of a turn

[atomic harness]

Could you pull up emissary?

[twilit canyon]

[[pinnacle emissary]]

[lost widget]

https://scryfall.com/card/eoe/223/pinnacle-emissary

Pinnacle Emissary <:mana1:292901508373282827><:manau:292901508754702338><:manar:292901508796645397>

Artifact Creature — Robot
Whenever you cast an artifact spell, create a 1/1 colorless Drone artifact creature token with flying and "This token can block only creatures with flying."
Warp (You may cast this card from your hand for its warp cost. Exile this creature at the beginning of the next end step, then you may cast it from exile on a later turn.)
3/3

[twilit canyon]

read em and weep

[atomic harness]

oh that's really good

[twilit canyon]

best possible turn gets to t1 cannoneer and then chains a kill into you t2

[atomic harness]

It's fast enough to race stuff like belcher and the esper lists?
What about energy?

[twilit canyon]

energy is the fair and honest deck

its still amazing and very comfortable to run

[atomic harness]

neat I might check out affinity also tht looks rly fun

opal...

They should probably reprint it

https://www.mtggoldfish.com/archetype/modern-affinity#paper

Huh is claws of gix better than welding jar or am I missing something

[twilit canyon]

kinda

[[weapons manufacturing]]

[lost widget]

https://scryfall.com/card/eoe/168/weapons-manufacturing

Weapons Manufacturing <:mana1:292901508373282827><:manar:292901508796645397>

Enchantment
Whenever a nontoken artifact you control enters, create a colorless artifact token named Munitions with "When this token leaves the battlefield, it deals 2 damage to any target."
"Soon we'll have enough firepower to rid Evendo of its bug infestation." —General Tekvu, Kavaron Memorial Navy

[twilit canyon]

reach

[atomic harness]

OH

Wth that card is good

I saw he was siding blood moon
Does the deck ever do the infinite construct token w that

Shadowspear is still 40 bucks

[twilit canyon]

eh

technically

[atomic harness]

Ohh the other affinity creatures aren't really run anymore
No space / inefficient?

[twilit canyon]

inefficient mostly

just need the kappa and some draw

kappa is enough to win

[atomic harness]

third monitor fine you think?

[twilit canyon]

you can swap monitor and thoughtcast ratios

but iirc

monitor can end up failing to fire in some openers

[atomic harness]

Yeah kappa is kind of the MVP now
Tht makes sense, thought cast is way easier to refill w

[stark skiff]

@atomic harness please bless my pulls

[subtle sierra]

Bless

You will be even more rich

[past socket]

Inshallah you shall pull mightily soon

[atomic harness]

Best of luck Mr Adam

[stark skiff]

Rip I got wrecked this time

Omg the Stone lmao

What a troll

[urban crane]

whats best pulls?

[stark skiff]

uhh nothing to write home about. The best pulls were a foil Reanimate and a foil Peter Parker (the web version not the comic one)

[copper pecan]

https://youtu.be/fydOyhhyBfA?si=H1hO3-zTGIv7fM88

never noticed this before but now i can't unsee it

"fireball is a proper noun" - wotc, 1994

[lusty trench]

Chocobo bundles are £110

Its 10 packs

Its just a promo pack and a life counter michael what could it cost? £70?

[golden plover]

Remember tho, this set is getting scalped to hell

Those 10 packs were already like $90

[lusty trench]

Play boosters are regularly avaliable at retail where im at

Also thats msrp

[golden plover]

Oh... $110 MSRP

Yeah... That shit is selling for like $300

Good luck everyone trying to buy one

[lusty trench]

Its also fuck all for that 110

[golden plover]

Oh yeah, that's a crazy starting price

But it's gonna be even worse because prioritizing scalpers is so fun

[sudden lava]

Coal Golem looks like a Chaotic screenshot

[golden plover]

Where did the MaRo Avishkar meme come from? Apparently I missed that one

[lusty trench]

Maros response to someone saying there isnt enough magic lately in a game called magic

[golden plover]

Woah that's condescending as hell

Also he's wrong lol

[lusty trench]

(Avishkar literally has so much magic in the air they bottle that shit and use it to power the tech)

[golden plover]

There's literally magic in the air in Avishkar

There's a WHOLE RACE of people made up of magic

That's... Their whole thing

Chandra is from Avishkar

Makes sense now, but holy shit that one was rude and wrong lol

[atomic harness]

Did that upset you is crazy

[golden plover]

Literally

Feels like something a redditor would respond with to be condescending

The public face of MTG saying it is wacky

[fallow citrus]

Maro's been on a bit of a stinker spree recently ngl

someone asked about UB and he just completely misinterpreted the question to dunk on them

[golden plover]

Love that he got the dunk wrong too lol

That's my favorite part

[atomic harness]

Yo aeri I rly like the izzet affinity list

Warping the drone card is pretty strong

[lusty trench]

He probably just sick of answering complaints tbh gotta be hard to be a shill

[golden plover]

I mean he could just take a break

Or stop doing it if it's pissing him off

[fallow citrus]

well yeah probably but you can't be the face of the company answering questions and also start beefing with people

[fallow citrus]

yee it's sick

[stark skiff]

https://preview.redd.it/hulk-scene-cards-v0-swh4r6xrtisf1.jpeg?width=640&crop=smart&auto=webp&s=0a791b64997aaa7ed54d4d7116cb667fc3d80aba

[glad peak]

I can see it being 5 cards, where’s the 6th?

The part where their punches collide?

It’s gonna be a weird cropping thing where the hulk card won’t have his fist, isnt it

I like this art much more than the spiderman ones ngl

[tardy echo]

Lightning bolt reprint

[subtle sierra]

knockout punch reprint

[tardy echo]

New mountain art

[sleek ferry]

a card with the entire art as the artwork

[glad peak]

Nah it’s totally just the helicopters and it’s a vehicle

[glad peak]

So current jund archetypes that are in:
delirium, dredge, prowess storm, tendrils storm, monsters, lands, reanimator, burn, shadow, mill, discard, sacrifice, madness

I think that’s a good base

[fallow citrus]

https://x.com/RealPokemoki/status/1972817965847617963

J White 急啡人 (@RealPokemoki)

I wrote about what it has felt like to be a competitive magic player for the past ~5-6 years

X · Sep 30, 2025, 12:17 AM

I am a pig and I eat slop.

[sleek ferry]

This was trending yesterday

It was only the 2nd stupidest post by a tcg player

[fallow citrus]

what was the 1st

[sleek ferry]

My mistake, the first was by a vgc player but it doesn’t make it any less dumb https://x.com/2thyfor/status/1973213813873975636?s=46&t=DdUsqNPs-c3IFDRYOhiq8A

Gerald Hoard III (@2thyfor)

Won a cup today and won a copy of Legends ZA, I've been struggling with the idea of being a Christian and also trying to win at pokemon and I felt like this was a confirmation from God that I can compete and also be a light to people at tournaments.

All the glory to God!🙏

X · Oct 1, 2025, 2:30 AM

[lusty trench]

Other than the dehumanising I dont particularly disagree its just kinda the most annoying way you could put it

[past socket]

Yeah it’s just such a disrespectful & nasty way to put it

[lusty trench]

A better way to put it would be fast food vs a restaurant meal ig? Idk the metaphor isnt great

[past socket]

I get not liking commander/commander-made design but fuck right off if you’re gonna compare commander players to fucking pigs eating slop

[lusty trench]

I think its meant to be UB too?

[past socket]

Nope it was about commander design

[lusty trench]

Ah

[past socket]

Even then it wouldn’t make it any less of a shitty way to put it

[lusty trench]

Idk i feel like it works better for UB than "commander design" tbh especially since edh has been supported officially for i want to say like 13 years

And "commander design" is an insanely hard to quantify thing

[past socket]

Arguably a symptom but with how it’s put

Just no

[twilit canyon]

commander players dont deserve shit but hoooly fuck this is hilariously written

[lusty trench]

Like the only symptom of commander design ive noticed is them putting a random 5 colour fuckery commander in like every main set

That feels awful to open in limited

[sleek ferry]

I saw somebody shed some light on the negativity in the best way possible. The guy said the following;

“Back in the day, Lego used to be completely original designs. One day, Lego got a huge partnership with Lucasfilm to make Lego sets based on their franchises. Once Lego saw how much money they made off that partnership, they looked for more.

A lot of people got pissed off that the number of Lego original sets was becoming less and less and as a result some people stopped buying Lego sets. As time went on, it became apparent that even though Lego lost loyal customers, the Lego brand exploded and became bigger than it had ever been. This is where MTG is currently trending.”

[lusty trench]

Like I opened cosmic Spider-man in my prerelease

I was like neat a £5 note that im not gonna be able to touch

I came third and lost to a guy that got Eddie brock, gwenom, the rare equipment

[golden plover]

I get this but also I can choose to not play with Legos of ips I don't like lol

I can't do the same for MTG now

[past socket]

My problem with it is the dehumanising

[twilit canyon]

yeah you can lol theres so many formats and ways to play without them

[past socket]

Even with a valid point, genuinely fuck off with that crap

[golden plover]

This one is just dumb as a whole lol

[golden plover]

I mean if you wanna keep up in like any format you have to play some UB cards

[lusty trench]

You know me im actually brain dead but is there a format officially supported by wotc that doesnt have UB in its higher tiers of play?

[sleek ferry]

I think once we realize that the amount of comp players is minuscule compared to the casual fanbase, you’ll realize that losing us doesn’t actually matter for the growth of the game. If me and you leave, 10 player will replace each of us

[twilit canyon]

in some formats not any format

[sleek ferry]

Yugioh who only has a single format has majority casual players as well

[golden plover]

Oh I'm well aware they don't care about comp players anymore

They haven't for years

Just sucks

[sleek ferry]

It’s not about caring though. Tarkir, EoE and FF is one of the best 3 set runs I’ve ever seen out of this game, I’ll challenge anybody on that

[lusty trench]

Cause like, standard has it, modern has it, cedh has it, edh has it, pauper has it, legacy has it

What formats am I missing here im not up to date

[sleek ferry]

It’s about, if you don’t like it, you can choose not to play it

[twilit canyon]

not official formats no but a ton of magic is played outside of them

and ppl play them constantly

[golden plover]

I just wish we had a single official format without UBs now

[twilit canyon]

i dont particularly care if we have official formats or not

[golden plover]

Literally 2 years ago they said "Oh UB is never going into standard"

[twilit canyon]

a ton of my lgs here play formats without ub in some capacity

[sleek ferry]

2 years ago we had also gotten the first UB set already technically lol, in D&D

[lusty trench]

Doesn't that entirely depend on most people to encourage their play group and then extend that to their locals to get the lgs to support it making it an unviable way to play the game for 99% of the playerbase?

[golden plover]

2 years ago was LOTR

[lusty trench]

If they have a playgroup to begin with?

[golden plover]

DND was like 4 years ago

[twilit canyon]

or an lgs and if u dont then... idk what to tell u its exactly the same as all other formats

some places wont play standard

[sleek ferry]

D&D was the first UB set, you should have known that UB would eventually come

[twilit canyon]

others wont play modern

[golden plover]

DND doesn't technically count

But I was saying this shit from THE WALKING DEAD

It was inevitable

Just does suck

[sleek ferry]

Anyways, I have 0 issues with UB, other than the fact that a lot of the effects of UB’s are currently being felt

[past socket]

If we’re being consistent DnD absolutely does count

Made by Wizards or not it’s still a separate IP

[lusty trench]

I got my sonic lair Im probably am gonna tap out sooner or later but it has been interesting as a player who jumped in at the first dnd set (coincidence not intended)

[sleek ferry]

Standard was literally the hottest format by far, and we just got a nothing set in Spider-Man

[lusty trench]

Mightve over corrected as a response to Vivi?

Idk if that'd be viable of them in the time frame tho

[sleek ferry]

I think a few things are true which we’re currently feeling the effects of

1. The increase of standard’s time frame from 2 years to 3 is a result of wanting UB sets to be playable longer.

[lusty trench]

I gotta say it was hilarious to hear the term fornitification used for magic and then they dropped the fortnite lair

Comedy gold

[sleek ferry]

2. This change forced plans to be changed around sets (Spider-Man included), so we got what was supposed to be an aftermath set, as a full set when it wasn’t meant to be

3. And probably least important for anybody that’s not a comp player, the balancing of sets for 3 year standard vs 2 year likely didn’t start till sometime after WoE was already planned

[lusty trench]

I had completely forgot about aftermath

Jesus that was an adventure

Pinkertons to shit set pipeline was crazy

[sleek ferry]

I think it’s very likely, that WotC was initially planning on all 3 marvel sets being aftermath like sets

Until Marvel told them no, we want full sets

[copper pecan]

god this is such a pretentious post

you are not better than anyone else because of your opinions about cardboard rectangles

i'd much rather hang out with "pigs who eat slop" than people who call other people pigs over a goddamn card game

[tardy echo]

It’s also just an extremely selfish opinion to think that what you want for the game matters more than anyone else for any specific reasons

Like yes it’s unfortunate if something you love changes from what it used to be because of the will of the people but that doesn’t magically make the people who want something different from you stupid

[copper pecan]

yeah exactly

[fallow citrus]

I don't really think it's bemoaning the people for enjoying it

I think it's more expressing frustration that MTG seems to be catering more towards commander and UB than anything else from the perspective of a 60 card format enjoyer

[sudden lava]

https://i.redd.it/sc8u6qloxksf1.jpeg

[copper pecan]

it explicitly compared them to pigs

[past socket]

Hence what I meant by dehumanising

He was actively comparing commander players to pigs

[sudden lava]

Oh forgot to mention, it will be at 10 AM pacific time!

https://x.com/wizards_magic/status/1973478020691251609

Magic: The Gathering (@wizards_magic)

Wizards of the Coast is hosting a Twitch stream to support Trans Lifeline, a grassroots hotline and non-profit organization offering direct support to trans people in crisis – for the trans community, by the trans community.

Tune in on Oct 4th at 10am PT to play games with us

X · Oct 1, 2025, 8:00 PM

[tardy echo]

It really is

The actual premise of it itself is pretty degrading to anyone who disagrees with it but it also basically says that people who like “slop” (commander) are ruining what he likes

Like I hate commander as much as the next guy but it’s just a little ridiculous

[sleek ferry]

It’s kinda annoying that commander has become the scapegoat tbh

Like, other tcg’s wish they had a 4 player game mode that was actually extremely fun to play (under the right circumstances)

[tardy echo]

Most people complaining about commander would probably still hate the game if it didn’t exist

See yugioh players complaining about pends/links/ whatever ruining the game and then still hating genesys maybe people just get bored of things idk

[glad peak]

I just don’t like commander specific design

[copper pecan]

i don't like commander at all but i'm not gonna blame all the game's problems on it

[glad peak]

Way back when tnn caused issues

[copper pecan]

people act like the game didn't have broken cards or unplayable junk rares prior to commander

[sleek ferry]

Commander actually gave those unplayable junk rares value

[past socket]

If Orvar’s taught me anything, it’s that one man’s junk rare is another man’s staple

[tardy echo]

I don’t either but instead of complaining about how commander players ruin the game I just play the fucking game

And if a format is bad I don’t play it

[atomic harness]

The only thing I disliked is them promising UB wasn't going to be in standard then doing it anyway

AFR was fine

And oh standard being 3 years instead of 2. and standard having 10 million sets

Modern is in a good spot rn it's chill mox opal needing a reprint aside

[sleek ferry]

The 2 to 3 change was good. Don’t @ me

[atomic harness]

How son

[sleek ferry]

We got to remember what else came from the 3 year change, scheduled banlist updates/communication even if no bans were happening

[tardy echo]

I think less rotation is fine but we’re just suffering atm from them still being in a transitory period

[sleek ferry]

Which is fine

[tardy echo]

Nothing is actually super wrong with the idea itself besides sort of removing the need for certain nonrotating formats

But also nobody fucking played pioneer anyways

[sleek ferry]

Like I said, it’s kinda annoying that Spider-Man is such a nothing set

[atomic harness]

Pioneer is for noobs yeah

And yeah spiderman is horrible

[sleek ferry]

So we got to wait for Lorwyn for actual meta changes

[atomic harness]

But it's fine

[sleek ferry]

Errr avatar

[tardy echo]

Probably lorwyn

[sleek ferry]

Nah avatar looks crazy

[tardy echo]

Avatar cards have seemed pretty poopy so far idk

[sleek ferry]

Set of the year potentially

[atomic harness]

Lorwyn = goated

[tardy echo]

Is there one I missed

[tardy echo]

Cosmogoat nadir solos that entire set son

[atomic harness]

Cake I'm not particularly excited for 2026
Only lorwyn and strix as actual magic sets huh

[tardy echo]

I’m hype for those sets

[atomic harness]

Yeah I am too

[tardy echo]

Hobbit might have cool card design even if the art is boring

[atomic harness]

but like marvel super heroes and star trek

hobbit

[tardy echo]

I thought lotr cards were cool

Can’t wait till we get the one ring in standard

Word me @twilit canyon

[atomic harness]

With no haywire mite to out it, holy

[tardy echo]

But it’s 5 and 2 to tap

[atomic harness]

Oh did they stop doing direct to modern sets

So no more mh4?

or x masters or remasters

[sleek ferry]

The marvel super heroes set should unironically be solid-good. Judging off the spoiled art

The marvel super heroes set is literally a marvel rivals set

[tardy echo]

I was gonna make a joke about who’s broken in rivals but I have zero clue

[atomic harness]

Modern is kinda safe no? TOR is dead and Bowmasters is kinda washed nowadays

Most cards tht are played are from the horizons

Not a lot of FF stuff in it either

Based on what we saw from pro tour eoe and the other relevant decks outside of top 8 anyway

I like Esper (goryo/blink) and affinity rn

Need to practice the belcher matchup...

[twilit canyon]

yeah not a ton of ub in modern

[atomic harness]

@tardy echo let's hold hands and revive atraxa together

[[atraxa the grand unifier]]

[lost widget]

https://scryfall.com/card/one/196/atraxa-grand-unifier

Atraxa, Grand Unifier <:mana3:292901508771610624><:manag:292901508654301185><:manaw:1007102126813610074><:manau:292901508754702338><:manab:292901508872273920>

Legendary Creature — Phyrexian Angel
Flying, vigilance, deathtouch, lifelink
When Atraxa enters, reveal the top ten cards of your library. For each card type, you may put a card of that type from among the revealed cards into your hand. Put the rest on the bottom of your library in a random order. (Artifact, battle, creature, enchantment, instant, land, planeswalker, and sorcery are card types.)
7/7

[sudden lava]

Most of the avatar cards revealed are from a beginners box product

[tardy echo]

Only if we’re using goryos to do it

[atomic harness]

Yeah it's goryo

[tardy echo]

kk

I think that deck is so funny

[atomic harness]

@twilit canyon this list could I do like 2/2 solitude subtlety or should I full switch to subtlety?

[twilit canyon]

2/2 is the most i'd go

[atomic harness]

Bet ty

[twilit canyon]

i'd probably just leave solitude in even tho subtlety is good

[atomic harness]

Buyers arent players...

Word me @glad peak

Anyway it's w/e modern is good

Phelia

[steady onyx]

kid isnt playing the best format standard

[atomic harness]

Buddy I only play fuwisty formats

[steady onyx]

fuwisty?

brother what are you speaking

gibberish?

imma need that in IPA please and thank you

[stark skiff]

Picked these up today

[past socket]

They’re really looking nice!

[stark skiff]

holy hell this card has gone crazy

[fallow citrus]

as it should that art is sick

[stark skiff]

yea no doubt it is. just wild its 400 now lol

remember it at 80

[sleek ferry]

Honestly, seeing the way the community is agreeing with the pigs eat slop comment is really killing this game for me

[fallow citrus]

I agree with the sentiment of "please focus more on non-commander and UB" but not with the "commander and UB enjoyers are pigs"

[copper pecan]

yeah same

if arena wasn't a thing i'd probably stop playing

i don't want to play with people who call people pigs over a card game

[fallow citrus]

I'm lucky my lgs doesn't really care about this stuff

that rules out basically any competitive game unfortunately

[steady onyx]

like imma be so for real

the people being like shitters about this

hwole ub thing

is what is making me like not want to play mtg rn

cause i dont want to interact people who are just going like

mtg bag mtg bag mtg bad

and not really like idk

[copper pecan]

yeah the constant negativity is super aggravating

[steady onyx]

and im not even like a super supporter of UB, like i dont mind then im not like head over heels for them but like im also not hating them im like if thats the thing magic wants to do whatever, but all these people around me being like you need to quit mtg because its bad blah blah blah ub horrible blah blah blah is just super tiring and like idk honestly really fucking annoying like can i please just enjoy a game and not get shit talked at because i am not showing hostlity to a company becuse of their decisions

[fallow citrus]

My extent with it is just

I saw spoilers for spooderman, wasn't interested in the set, moved on

like while I have the opinion there should be more mtg than ub, or ub should just be card reskins

I also don't care nearly as much as twitter users

[atomic harness]

This is me I care a little more than you but also very mild otherwise

I don't like 10 billion card standard

[steady onyx]

personally i dont mind

well

im like excited to see how to upgrade my deck

[fallow citrus]

idm but I'd rather the cards add something

[steady onyx]

but im also shit at deckbuilding

[fallow citrus]

idk if there was a single playable card for standard in spiderman

like maybe spiderpunk?

[steady onyx]

i think there were definitly some playable

[atomic harness]

There was this electro guy they were hyping or something

or shocker whatever he's called

[steady onyx]

hydro man, spiderpunk, electro, sandman, jackal is spicy

[atomic harness]

The hydro guy is cool

[steady onyx]

I REALLY want to mkae jackal work

in my simic deck

hes so cool

like the design is actually like incredible gonna be so fr

[atomic harness]

But ye that set is buns holy

[fallow citrus]

I did see spiderpunk in legacy stompy which was cool

[steady onyx]

spiderpunk is a crazy card th

[sleek ferry]

To me it’s the fact that people praising the analogy, including the person that made the analogy is missing the one big part of their entire point. If a restaurant got to a point where you weren’t enjoying the food anymore, you would just stop going.

In that same sentiment, if the game is at a point where you find yourself just complaining about it and not enjoying it, just don’t play it or move on to a different tcg?

[sleek ferry]

The reanimator is cute since he works with on cast stuff

[steady onyx]

but like im sorry is this card not like actuallyt really good card design? [[Jackal, Genius Geneticist]]

[lost widget]

https://scryfall.com/card/spm/131/jackal-genius-geneticist

Jackal, Genius Geneticist <:manag:292901508654301185><:manau:292901508754702338>

Legendary Creature — Human Scientist Villain
Trample
Whenever you cast a creature spell with mana value equal to Jackal's power, copy that spell, except the copy isn't legendary. Then put a +1/+1 counter on Jackal. (The copy becomes a token.)
For Professor Miles Warren, all any problem needs is a lot of clones and not a lot of ethics.
1/1

[steady onyx]

maybe this is a hot take but this is like really cool

to me

like really really really cool

[sleek ferry]

Ben Reilly is also just a solid aggro card for 2 mana

[steady onyx]

also the gruul one eyah

[sleek ferry]

T1 llanowar elves, t2 cast Ben Reilly with web slinging + restart llanowar elves

Now you got a 5/4 trampler + didn’t lose out on mana

[fallow citrus]

oh which one was that

[steady onyx]

oh anther playable standard card guys

[[multiversal passage]]

[lost widget]

https://scryfall.com/card/spm/180/multiversal-passage

Multiversal Passage

Land
As this land enters, choose a basic land type. Then you may pay 2 life. If you don't, it enters tapped.
This land is the chosen type.
New worlds await...

[steady onyx]

🤣

[sleek ferry]

[[superior spider-man]]

[lost widget]

https://scryfall.com/card/spm/155/superior-spider-man

Superior Spider-Man <:mana2:292901509060886528><:manau:292901508754702338><:manab:292901508872273920>

Legendary Creature — Spider Human Hero
Mind Swap — You may have Superior Spider-Man enter as a copy of any creature card in a graveyard, except his name is Superior Spider-Man and he's a 4/4 Spider Human Hero in addition to his other types. When you do, exile that card.
"I will be Spider-Man. With my unparalleled genius, I shall become the Superior Spider-Man." —Otto Octavius
4/4

[fallow citrus]

ahh sure

[stark skiff]

https://tenor.com/view/shocker-spider-man-look-up-shocked-surprised-gif-16027183

[sudden lava]

btw got these 2 cards recently

[past socket]

I am happy with the folks who are rightfully making fun of the pigs eat slop comment for being as deeply awful and needlessly rude as it is rather than trying to co-opt it as an anti-UB talking point when they weren’t talking about UB

[zinc shard]

I'm in a commander league, and one of the season bonuses is for playing a precon with less then 10 cards changed.

any suggestions?

(Bracket 3 at most)

[stark skiff]

The Edge Jund deck

[sudden lava]

Add the late game infinites

[vivid hatch]

left my cards at home when i went abroad to study assuming I wouldn’t get the opportunity to play

big mistake, as now I had to shell out €100 to get this list ( but in paper )

didn’t expect a pauper community

[glad peak]

I don’t remember muta being a card you play in mono blue

[zinc shard]

uuf, well glad to hear you got ppl to play with

[vivid hatch]

on the plus side I’ll get it all in one package and within two days

the perks of ordering from overpriced big stores

[vivid hatch]

it’s a good combat trick

and it’s a semi popular option

[glad peak]

I remember playing unstable mutation a long long time ago

[vivid hatch]

yeah, but €100 for pauper faeries just seems… wrong

[glad peak]

I know it’s not a combat trick but it was a way for faeries to reasonably beat bully more often

[vivid hatch]

i could get it for less but I’d need to order like 1000 packages and in the end I’d spend a lot of time on it

or wait a long time

[glad peak]

Speaking of which, whatever happened to boros bully

I remember it being played well after mh3 and that’s the excuse people usually tell me as to why decks aren’t played

[lusty trench]

Waste of a fucking question lmao

[gritty nest]

I did my pod dirty with yshtola

Player before me played mana flare. I use it then bounce it back to their hand before anyone else gets to use it

Then when it finally hits the table again I instantly torment of hailfire for 16

[glad peak]

torment of hailfire is a sorcery

[gritty nest]

Yes

It went to my turn right after the mana flare hit the table

[steady onyx]

ok guys

anyone know of playmats with this art

. how tog get?

[gritty nest]

I’d check TCGplayer because they usually have all sorts of play mats there

Then try to find an alternative place to buy it because fuck TCGplayer

Or find the raw art and turn it into a mat yourself

[steady onyx]

yes fuck tcgplayer

also peek my new deck im working on

i decided i didnt hate commander anymore

bceause i found a funny meme dek

[gritty nest]

Where link?

[steady onyx]

you dont need link

its my bracket 1 deck :0

its all 23 level up cards in atraxas colors :)

[gritty nest]

Not to sound mean but I’m not reading a flash banged list at work lmao

[steady onyx]

ur fine its bascially just 23 level up cads with atraxa as commander

and 1 prologue to phyresis

[gritty nest]

The concept sounds extremely funny. Which Atraxa?

[glad peak]

the proliferate one

hence the level up counters

[gritty nest]

Do level up cards put counters on themselves?

[glad peak]

yep

[steady onyx]

yes

level counters are how you level them up

so...

ha

[gritty nest]

Huh

That makes more sense now

I figured leveling up was tracked similar to uh

[steady onyx]

level up cards when u apy the mana put 1 "level counter" on them

[gritty nest]

[[!blacksmith talent]]

[lost widget]

https://scryfall.com/card/blb/125/blacksmiths-talent

Blacksmith's Talent

[steady onyx]

selves

so you can proliferate them

yeah

the issue is

every single level up card

is compelte ass

so like yeah

the deck does nothing

but its funny

:)

[gritty nest]

Well one becomes a flying progenitus iirc which is extremely funny

[steady onyx]

no flying :(

[[hexdrinker]] [[lighthouse chronologist]]

[lost widget]

https://scryfall.com/card/mh1/168/hexdrinker

Hexdrinker <:manag:292901508654301185>

Creature — Snake
Level up (: Put a level counter on this. Level up only as a sorcery.)
LEVEL 3-7
4/4
Protection from instants
LEVEL 8+
6/6
Protection from everything
2/1

https://scryfall.com/card/roe/75/lighthouse-chronologist

Lighthouse Chronologist <:mana1:292901508373282827><:manau:292901508754702338>

Creature — Human Wizard
Level up (: Put a level counter on this. Level up only as a sorcery.)
LEVEL 4-6
2/4
LEVEL 7+
3/5
At the beginning of each end step, if it's not your turn, take an extra turn after this one.
1/3

[steady onyx]

are the 2 funny ones

[gritty nest]

Still a level up progenitus sounds funny

Yes hexdrinker

My friend played that dumb ass and got it to max level

[steady onyx]

i think that honestly [[arna]] is a better commander probasly

[lost widget]

Multiple cards match “arna”, can you be more specific?

[steady onyx]

the double counters on modified creatures

HOWEVER i think its muhc funnier to show up to a bracket 1 pod

with ur atraxa deck

:)

[gritty nest]

The biggest downside is no red

Can’t abuse things like chishiro

But it’s b1 who gives a shit

[steady onyx]

and i dont wanna spend too much on this deck

but smt like

[[ozolith]]

[lost widget]

Multiple cards match “ozolith”, can you be more specific?

[steady onyx]

would be fire

the onrmal one

[gritty nest]

Use uh

It’s a white ozolith that came in a new capenna deck

[[resourceful defense]]

[lost widget]

https://scryfall.com/card/eoc/67/resourceful-defense

Resourceful Defense <:mana2:292901509060886528><:manaw:1007102126813610074>

Enchantment
Whenever a permanent you control leaves the battlefield, if it had counters on it, put those counters on target permanent you control.
: Move any number of counters from target permanent you control to another target permanent you control.

[trail anvil]

or just protect the creatures to begin with

[[$flare of fortitude]]

[lost widget]

https://scryfall.com/card/mh3/26/flare-of-fortitude

Prices for Flare of Fortitude

Modern Horizons 3 Promos

$4.89

Modern Horizons 3

$3.94 • €3.32 • 0.02 TIX

Modern Horizons 3

$11.37 • €9.48 • 0.02 TIX

Modern Horizons 3

$4.76 • €3.67 • 0.02 TIX

[gritty nest]

That too, but I like a safety net card

[steady onyx]

u guys know the new card from eoe

with sunburst

and charge counters

and gets mana by removing ccharge counters

me forget name

[glad peak]

pentad prism is the only one that has those specificities and that's not a new card by any means

[gritty nest]

Would strionic resonator abilities be win-more for [[!aloy, savior]]?

[lost widget]

https://scryfall.com/card/sld/2221/aloy-savior-of-meridian

Aloy, Savior of Meridian

[glad peak]

Yes

You should be winning with the first trigger and adding a lot of cost to create a second trigger isnt really worth

[steady onyx]

https://moxfield.com/decks/lfo8sCKHb0KkfdANK3Fvkg
whats other funny stuff I can add to the deck? this is ~b1 maybe b2 so nothing crazy but wondering if theres any old like henious stuff that would be funy in the deck that would fit with level up?

i know like the talents dont work with the proliferate idea but like it fits the general idea of level up so may add some of those

also any other fun planeswalers, i like having a couple planeswalkers in deck as fun

i think vraska is a shoe in

but

i kinda wanna run other atraxa in 99 as bomb but idk if thats worth

ok stupid ruling question

soul cauldron with levl up cards

can i take copy a level up card with cheaper mana cost and put onto another level up card then use that mana?

cost to add the level counters?

[steady onyx]

ok adding something else

anyone have other funny counters i can proliferate with atraxa?

like bad shit

[ornate cedar]

This is real?

[tardy echo]

PlayStation lair

[steady onyx]

ok i did some stuff, can ppl help me cause im shit at deckbuilding
https://moxfield.com/decks/lfo8sCKHb0KkfdANK3Fvkg whats like normal ratios and shit? for lands / engine / proliferate things and stuff

[fallow citrus]

https://x.com/mtgbanding/status/1974154745712656384?t=oDmz_xEMrl1H67RM-XgXCA&s=19

Phil Nguyen (@mtgbanding)

rebecca guay has shared the full artwork of bitterbloom bearer

X · Oct 3, 2025, 4:49 PM

gorgeous art as per usual from her

[twilit canyon]

🐐

[past socket]

damn

[tardy echo]

It was inevitable for lorwyn art to be godlike

[gritty nest]

That’s fair. At most I was thinking of just strionic resonator and illusionist’s bracers, just to have extra power if I get them, but I get what you mean

[gritty nest]

God that’s gorgeous

[rigid scarab]

https://youtube.com/shorts/RkDykEDfJWg?si=ad0tgaaFwCOA217z

I’m doing this

When I get in a pod of new players

I’ll be playing Time Vault Turbo as much as I can

And the moment someone calls out that its banned I go “Oh shit… Oh… I didn’t realise…”

[atomic harness]

[glad peak]

Time vault’s just a silly extra turn spell where you skip the turn after, it’s completely fair

Give me time vault, I can be trusted

[gritty nest]

https://archidekt.com/decks/16454427/aloy_savior_of_meridian

any cards you guys recommend?

[sudden lava]

where the growth spiral at?

[gritty nest]

i forgot its existence because i hadnt used simic in forever

[tardy echo]

Also play any of the growth spiral derivatives

Planar genesis and the ilk

Also y no uro

That guy is like top 5 simic cards

[gritty nest]

whp

who

[tardy echo]

[[uro titan of natures wrath]]

[lost widget]

https://scryfall.com/card/thb/229/uro-titan-of-natures-wrath

Uro, Titan of Nature's Wrath <:mana1:292901508373282827><:manag:292901508654301185><:manau:292901508754702338>

Legendary Creature — Elder Giant
When Uro enters, sacrifice it unless it escaped.
Whenever Uro enters or attacks, you gain 3 life and draw a card, then you may put a land card from your hand onto the battlefield.
Escape—, Exile five other cards from your graveyard. (You may cast this card from your graveyard for its escape cost.)
6/6

[tardy echo]

Even if u aren’t escaping it it’s very good value

[vivid hatch]

Pickup

[glad peak]

What format do you need 3 mox diamonds for

[tardy echo]

Vintage

[vivid hatch]

none, it’s 1 or 4

I’ll be selling them when I get back home

picked them up at a game store in Paris just now

paid $1500 cash for the lot

I’ll get over $2000 pretty much instantly back in Russia

Premodern and Commander played RL is scarce and in high demand

[glad peak]

Does no one in Russia proxy?

[vivid hatch]

frowned upon

in general

as the only popular places to play are a few very large game stores

that are kept afloat by singles sales

[glad peak]

Unbased

[vivid hatch]

commander isn’t too popular

compared to premodern

Modern

pauper and legacy

[glad peak]

I don’t remember mox Diamond being in premodern but it’s nice to see premodern seeing play

[vivid hatch]

nah, it’s the reality of it

there is NO sealed product that makes its way into the country via official channels

they need to sell a lot of singles to stay afloat

that’s the majority of their profit

the play area is large and free

200+ seats

at the stores in question

very unprofitable venture

[glad peak]

True on the vendor’s side, but I would think players would advocate for it precisely because no sealed product

[vivid hatch]

plenty of singles make their way in

every magic player here buys cards when abroad en masse

and offloads them on topdeck.ru

which is the community forum

And also main place players sell cards to each other, 0 fees

community run

auctions and other cool features

stores do the same, basically fly in singles in suitcases

sealed product only comes in via people who buy in Germany and fly it in OR buy in Kazakhstan and illegally ship it in

cuz otherwise they’d be paying a 20% import tax on top of paying wholesale + VAT

[gritty nest]

because i dont need him, his stuff isnt facilitating what i want outside of a singular draw and ramp. im getting value off artifact creatures swinging. and theres more repeatable draw without uro that would work better for me

[vivid hatch]

people who play with proxies don’t play at stores

at home, do whatever

[tardy echo]

Uro is literally just growth spiral that costs 1 more mana to heal 3 life

You should play it

[gritty nest]

no

[vivid hatch]

Which is where I’ll be offloading them

[gritty nest]

good luck on your sales with it, and it sounds like hell without new sealed product coming in. What was the last set to make it over?

[vivid hatch]

I expect to get
~55000 rub for the English Mox
~43000 for each of the French ones
~32000 for the diamond

for a total of 173000 or $2120

everyone wins, people get the cards they want and I get my plane tickets covered

[vivid hatch]

in theory NEO

[gritty nest]

i see

ive heard Russian New Capenna cards exist but are extremely rare

[vivid hatch]

In practice crimson vow

[vivid hatch]

yeah 6 boxes survived

Total

[gritty nest]

damn

[vivid hatch]

people say 3 online but it’s six cuz i know where and when they got out

[gritty nest]

i wonder if at minimum the whole set list exists in those 6 boxes

[vivid hatch]

I have a cool RuCapenna card

[vivid hatch]

no

[gritty nest]

sad

it would be neat seeing at least 1 of each card exist

[vivid hatch]

for example no obnix

1-2 copies of most rares and mythics

0 of some

of the 3 walkers in the set, 1 or 2 Viviens ( i forgot ), 0 obnix and 2 elspeth

one of the elspeths is mine lol

Also kamigawa print run is like 10% or less ( likely less ) of crimson vow in Russian

cut short cuz of war

[gritty nest]

yeah

[vivid hatch]

and never officially distributed in Russia, only in Kazakhstan and Uzbekistan

I own the only known foil borderless empress in Russian

In theory, doing print run math, there should be a total of 3-4

but the others either weren’t opened for some reason or are in private collections

[gritty nest]

probably a mix of both, unlucky odds and the other (assuming like at most 3 exists) are private collection

[vivid hatch]

yep

I’ve had some astronomical offers for it

[gritty nest]

oh i can imagine

[vivid hatch]

but I don’t want to part with it for now

[gritty nest]

thats definitely a show piece and a rainy day card

if it comes down to it

[vivid hatch]

yep, if I needed it I could call David Chen or something

he’s been buying up every comically rare card

I hear he wants to buy one of the only known cases of alpha

I have no clue what that would be today

a few years ago a case sold for $15.000.000

so should be at least that