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glad peak
For a moment there I thought it had the time where Mary Jane cheated on him on the bottom right
glad peak
I’m glad they didn’t reference the Gwen Stacie getting with green goblin storyline for this card
golden plover
This has gotta be the most boring obligatory 5c UB commander yet lol
sudden lava
My varina deck could use this clone, it discards a lot
sudden lava
well, there's your wubrg spooder-man to use the entire set with
gilded glade
Bri'ish Spider
sudden lava
At least it's not an australian spider, those are deadly
golden plover
Why is that seemingly named character not legendary lol
subtle sierra
Too broken as a commander 
golden plover
Is this ai assisted? The flag and road markings are funky
Notably look at the line in between the bus and blue car. It crossed over the other line in a weird way
sudden lava
Why is that seemingly named character not legendary lol
but it is legendary
OH you mean the skyward
golden plover
Yeah she's not
sudden lava
cuz the british one is, but skyward isn't
golden plover
The spot in between the red bus and blue car is weird
Do the dotted lines actually break solid lines in the UK?
That feels like it shouldn't work that way?
subtle sierra
It looks fine to me
Why would you have a solid line in the middle of a junction
Those denote that you can't cross that
golden plover
Nah there's already a solid line
But the white dashed line interrupts the solid line
subtle sierra
If it's a junction with lights they usually denote crosswalks with dotted lines
At least here
Idk the exact thing uk uses
golden plover
US crosswalks are like that too, but they're typically wider or have two solid lines around the side
subtle sierra
Mine are just dotted squares for bike paths and rectangles for walking
golden plover
I figure this'll be the only one
subtle sierra
😢
golden plover
I don't think this set will get a proper rare land cycle since it was an aftermath set lol
hidden ermine
Seems decent?
sudden lava
sentenced to immediate voltron
barren cairn
gilded glade
subtle sierra
Isn't this hella underpriced mana wise?
In exchange for instant speed, you get 3 damage and gy hate
subtle sierra
All i remember of theros is kiora saga, kroxa being a bitch and blue omen
atomic harness
[[elspeth's nightmare]]
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subtle sierra
Sultai ultimatum my beloved
stark skiff
https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/948945461597831218/1412491531524247692/...
That’s a nice wiener
subtle sierra
sudden lava
I'm still wondering where is the pizza in this set
stark skiff
What about uncle ben
Wow bro too soon
Winds and Opp Agent 
The thrill artwork is sick too
lusty trench
Imagine they put in notion thief and winds in the set
The most devastating draft combo
copper pecan
wow they really printed a 2/2 for 1U with flying and an upside
twilit canyon
it is legendary but yeah
stark skiff
storm elbow
Oh that looks neat
fallow citrus
mmm this is entering my sideboard
stark skiff
Oh snap finally! Superior!
Wow a rare with some sick art and seems like a fun commander
stark skiff
subtle sierra
this is interesting
atomic harness
That might be goated
subtle sierra
this is a lot better in spellslinging, but i think control can side like 2
atomic harness
Any B4 experts in chat?
stark skiff
Of course bro
atomic harness
Of course bro
🧢
I built this and it's like fake b3 I think bc it has some fast 2 2.5 ccs
It's not cedh though
Ill cut bloodghast he kinda sucks here, should be another draw/value guy
sudden lava
evolving wilds clone yep
steady onyx
BRo
IM ON LIKE 20 LANDS
WHAT THE FUCk
HOW AM I DRAWING LAND AFTER LAND HOLYYYY
copper pecan
no it was not banned
glad peak
Yes you are going crazy
tardy echo
am i going crazy
Are u thinking of nightmare
hidden ermine
Do they have the rights actually?
stark skiff
lusty trench
That is certainly a piece of artwork on a card
glad peak
Very cute
I like how this implies that you impulsively take only 1 of them out to a date
Faces look so weird tho
trail anvil
for real
zinc shard
Ok this is great
sudden lava
Ok this is great
sadly digital exclusive
stark skiff
broken fjord
Kinda good removal. Plenty of ways of stopping the return trigger, and hits almost anything.
glad peak
for 5 mana i would hope so
broken fjord
Oh, for sure. For 5 mana it's just fine. But I don't think a lot of creatures can remove nonland permanents at 5 mana.
zinc shard
Molten Man, Incarnation of Hellfire
2R
Legendary Creature - Elemental Villain
When this enters the battlefield, search your library for a basic Mountain card and put it onto the battlefield tapped. Then shuffle your library.
This ccreature gets +1/+1 for each Mountain you control.
When this leaves the battlefield, sacrifice a land.
"Is this the end? Is this the end of Spider-Man?"
zinc shard
"Eat the World" can be done with either version of Yargle
tardy echo
Yargoat
zinc shard
hmmm
zinc shard
oh apparently Death by Vanillla is bugged
subtle sierra
[[death by vanilla]]
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subtle sierra
zinc shard
... The achievement
gritty nest
people are pointing out the fingies look AI but i don't really know
on the spot?
trail anvil
I feel like I don't see anything remotely AI related
subtle sierra
I can see why the flag is sus-ish
Alph said the lines looked weird to him while i said it's just a crosswalk
This was about spider uk for context
trail anvil
is this not the spot
atomic harness
Spot...
subtle sierra
is this not the spot
Wdym
trail anvil
that was directly after the spot post with no reply to give other context
looking at spider uk anyways I don't understand what's weird about the fingers there either? the web is supposed to shoot out his wrist and all the fingers look fine to me
trail anvil
#1020928983883325522 message this was in response to this message
subtle sierra
Is this ai assisted? The flag and road markings are funky
Here
subtle sierra
Hands are hard to draw so unless it's like more/less fingers i don't immediately blame the artist
Personally
subtle sierra
This sounds pretty good
subtle sierra
This sounds like a weird three steps sidegrade
But it being 5 mana prob makes it unplayable
fallow citrus
should have returned a school to hand to counter target spell unless its controller pays 1
subtle sierra
Actually the card should have been a lesson
zinc shard
FYI, the yargle event doesn't give progress towards the Yargle achievements
atomic harness
Why is this so overcosted
waxen timber
5 mana to draw 3 at instant speed is pretty standard
The counter is one mana over costed but, on a modal spell it's okay
steady onyx
Are u thinking of nightmare
yeah
trail anvil
and it's a limited card
zinc shard
DAMN
lusty trench
Idk how to feel about this art for this card
Wotc comparing women to objects confirmed??? 
golden plover
Why are her eyes trying to leave her face
Is that how the panel looks?
Nah looks like they upscaled it kinda weird lol
copper pecan
still looks pretty weird imo
subtle sierra
the eyes on the original panel look like they were moved with photoshop
but like with the move rectangle tool
idk how to describe it
the upscaling makes it look worse imo
tardy echo
The whites of her eyes aren’t fully drawn in this panel
stark skiff
tardy echo
Or at least it’s harder to see them
sudden lava
🐝 🐝 🐝
subtle sierra
i'm sorry but this looks like he's sitting on a flesh column
with random sinew all over
copper pecan
this is the greatest flavor text i have ever seen
stark skiff
i'm sorry but this looks like he's sitting on a flesh column
The original image is a bit different
subtle sierra
crowd is interesting
but as always, your opponent gets to use it first to get free mana, then kill this
glad peak
Idk the regular art faces look really weird in general
fallow citrus
I can't say I'm loving this set
glad peak
However looks like I have yet another reason why I may want to build najeela (the last one being in ff)
There are some genuinely good hybrid designs which are needed
trail anvil
is the frog of culture achievement bugged too? I'm using a deck that should fulfill the conditions but it's not going
steady onyx
For "A Frog of Culture", the style seems to matter so make sure you specifically use the DOM style when making the deck. I had 2 games not count b/c I had Yargle from another set (IKO?).
from reddit
trail anvil
...surely there's no way alchemy dominaria is not included though 
I'm using the dom styles
nope it's based off of the set only wtf wizards
steady onyx
shit i cant do this
this is for like people with a big collection
or a lot of wild cards
can this be completed in like duels?
like friend duels?
trail anvil
nope but you don't have to win
trail anvil
oh at that point just play a deck without lands and hope you run into a generous opponent lol
twilit canyon
ponder 
trail anvil
or someone who scoops on a bad mulligan
trail anvil
ponder <:PogYu:622348064539017239>
yeee finally
steady onyx
ponder <:PogYu:622348064539017239>
do u think the art is cool?
i really like all these "special guests"
im not a big spiderman person
but the comic art style is clean asf ngl
twilit canyon
yeah its cool
steady onyx
ooh misty
what u think about
spider sense
the counter that can be 1 if u bounce tapped
twilit canyon
meh
steady onyx
hm ok
anyways lets see if my fucked account can complete these achivements
btw any standard decks I can use cauldron, inkeepers, and my curisoity in
or nah
twilit canyon
cauldron is not long for this world
steady onyx
fuck
that was a waste of 4 mythics
like a year ago
whats best format to search
for like all my collection
twilit canyon
they would refund your wildcards if they ban cauldron
steady onyx
wait
plz ban cauldron
i want 4 myrhics
tysm
also idt i can do this stupid event
i dont even have the golgari commander
fallow citrus
also idt i can do this stupid event
I assume that ponder isn't standard legal
wtf why did it reply
literally wasnt even on my screen that it was replying to a message wut
sudden lava
This goes well in spider but it's 4/20 typal
stark skiff
So far I really like the Madness mechanic and likely will build Green Goblin commander for it
gritty nest
Is there any effects similar to [[recall]] in mono blue? Mainly recursion that isn’t just instants and sorcery’s
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lusty trench
tardy echo
https://www.reddit.com/r/magicTCG/s/Hk3t7HrEnX
[[delay]] reprint?
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copper pecan
acrobatics seems like a pretty strong card
copper pecan
i've been running [[cosmic sovreign]] in myrrim brawl and i've been considering cutting it because a lot of the time it conjures doodoo diarrhea
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Creature — Dragon
Flying, Haste
: This creature gets +1/+0 until end of turn.
At the beginning of combat on your turn, conjure a random creature card with mana value X onto the battlefield, where X is this creature's power. That creature gains haste. Exile it at the beginning of the next end step.
3/4
trail anvil
yay I did it 
easiest way to do this mission without some kind of cheese seems like landfall yargle & multani with all fetchlands + basics
trail anvil
I had 6 life before screaming nemesis killed me with the annex trigger, is there any reason I couldn't convoke out pile out here?
are krrik phyrexian mana and convoke not allowed to be used for the same spell?
copper pecan
[[krrik]]
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Legendary Creature — Phyrexian Horror Minion
(
can be paid with either 
or 2 life.)
Lifelink
For each in a cost, you may pay 2 life rather than pay that mana.
Whenever you cast a black spell, put a +1/+1 counter on K'rrik.
2/2
fallow citrus
[[pile on]]
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Instant
Convoke (Your creatures can help cast this spell. Each creature you tap while casting this spell pays for 
or one mana of that creature's color.)
Destroy target creature or planeswalker. Surveil 2. (Look at the top two cards of your library, then put any number of them into your graveyard and the rest on top of your library in any order.)
fallow citrus
I think because it's an alternate condition that doesn't state the mana needed maybe?
nvm looking it up everyone says convoke should work with krrik
trail anvil
rip lost to a bug 
zinc shard
The Convoke must've forced you to pay the black mana instead of the colorless mana
that's my guess
trail anvil
I tried manually inputting the phyrexian mana though and it still didn't work
specifically it would either only let me convoke with krrik or pay the phyrexian mana. it would let me convoke with the other creatures
zinc shard
trail anvil
played that commander variant with 5 players, it was really fun. tl;dr one person was named king and has 50 life, one person is a knight that has to defend the king, one person is an assassin that wants to be the last player standing and two people are bandits only trying to kill the king, and immediately win if they do
I was the king and my knight copied a mindslaver trigger on (what we thought were) both bandits
glad peak
oh the among us variant?
very fun
someone in the group started making specific abilities for each role where they can reveal their role and pay a cost to get a powerful ability
trail anvil
sounds like a fun variation
sudden lava
what was that variation Prof had on SUAP, where it was like secret partners
zinc shard
Oh hey it's the anti set mechanic card
glad peak
sounds like a fun variation
i remember it was inspired by an actual thing someone made a website for it but i can't remember the thing
found it
stark skiff
rigid scarab
Ah
That's a cheap simic commander with a not once per turn value effect
This will be ok
trail anvil
Surely there’s a combo here
ik reddit comments pointed out hydras
zinc shard
Mister Negative 5WB
Legendary Creature - Human Villain (Mythic)
Vigilance, Lifelink
When ~ enters, you may exchange your life total with target opponent. If you lose life this way, draw that many cards.
5/5
subtle sierra
crazy effect
zinc shard
Arachne, Psionic Weaver (?)
2W
Legendary Creature - Spider Human Hero
Rare
Web-slinging {W} (You may cast this spell for {W} if you also return a tapped creature you control to its owner’s hand.)
As ~ enters the battlefield, look at an opponent's hand. Then you choose a noncreature card type.
Spells of the chosen type cost (1) more to cast.
imagine if [[Lightstall Inquisitor]] didnt have Vigilence
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Creature — Angel Wizard
Vigilance
When this creature enters, each opponent exiles a card from their hand and may play that card for as long as it remains exiled. Each spell cast this way costs more to cast. Each land played this way enters tapped.
Born of dead stars, the Astelli may fight for light, but they know the void as their womb.
2/1
trail anvil
Mister Negative 5WB
Legendary Creature - Human Villain (Mythic)
Vigilance, Lif...
I love this card so much
nuke yourself for massive draw or save your life total
lusty trench
Mister Negative 5WB
Legendary Creature - Human Villain (Mythic)
Vigilance, Lif...
Flicker decks love this one simple trick
stark skiff
To all the people talking about AI on the UK Spidey. The artist responded.
sudden lava
if it werent for the colors, university campus would feel like a strixhaven card
hidden ermine
You forgot that it was specifically vampire scientist villain
This is not the card Maro hinted at
golden plover
Oh so I guess there's still hope for Morbius
hidden ermine
I mean at this point it basically has to be Morbius
Morlun is the only other notable vampire
golden plover
Why does Spiderman have two vampires who's names start with "Mor"
steady onyx
tardy echo
https://www.reddit.com/r/magicTCG/comments/1n6lxkd/comment/nc6vthl/
I like how people just respond to the artist with “you’re a liar”
What a normal well adjusted thing to do
Or even better “I think you didn’t use AI but WOTC definitely did”
stark skiff
Yeah the comments are a cesspool
tardy echo
Reddit? Be bad? Never
stark skiff
Oh so I guess there's still hope for Morbius
glad peak
Or even better “I think you didn’t use AI but WOTC definitely did”
I read somewhere that wotc said they don’t use gen AI but rather ML AI, which has 2 problems
First, they should’ve already been using ML AI
Second, that’s a huge marketing blunder
glad peak
Interestingly enough this set looks like a blast to draft (other than the commander outliers of course, which unfortunately takes up a lot of space here)
UW modified is one archetype I didn’t think I’d see
copper pecan
https://www.reddit.com/r/magicTCG/comments/1n6lxkd/comment/nc6vthl/
are people gonna do this shit every set from now on
copper pecan
i'm so sick of people doing this shit
"let's try and ruin this random artist's career because they made art i think looks bad" is way worse than using ai imo
unrelated but morbing time
stark skiff
subtle sierra
this looks decent
fallow citrus
twilit canyon
we need to study the brains of these magic players
fallow citrus
what brains
glad peak
I haven’t seen modern players without a brain ever since those types of players migrated to commander
atomic harness
I haven’t seen modern players without a brain ever since those types of players ...
Thank you son
if you'll excuse me I'll be doing turn 1 thoughtseize turn 2 frog
sleek ferry
Cheaper formats will always have dumb people
Hence why standard is big brained right now
glad peak
if you'll excuse me I'll be doing turn 1 thoughtseize turn 2 frog
Good boy
golden plover
Just ran into an Orzhov list main decking [[Tinybones, Bauble Burglar]]. You know standard is cooked when this is even in the consideration to be mained lol
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Legendary Creature — Skeleton Rogue
Whenever an opponent discards a card, exile it from their graveyard with a stash counter on it.
During your turn, you may play cards you don't own with stash counters on them from exile, and mana of any type can be spent to cast those spells.
, 
: Each opponent discards a card. Activate only as a sorcery.
1/3
glad peak
Nice lmao
Playing with newer players who have infinite information is such a weird experience
They have very very good decks but their ideas of what’s good or bad is so off that someone decided it was a great idea to play a midrange deck into a combo deck because it had removal
sleek ferry
https://www.reddit.com/r/magicTCG/comments/1n6lxkd/comment/nc6vthl/
Mtg community proving the worst parts of itself once again
Blindly accusing artists should be a bannable offense from all discussion forums
glad peak
I mean, most people I’ve seen talking about it just say that it’s possible because of the issues with the flag, fingers, and probably something else I forgot
I don’t think I’ve seen anyone saying they 100% did use AI other than right under this post
past socket
Reddit was a mistake
glad peak
And tbh that’s reasonable to think when wotc themselves stated they would use AI (allegedly a different kind but people don’t know the difference)
sleek ferry
The fact that it’s even a discussion is the issue
What if the artist didn’t have twitter
And his name is getting slandered for literally 0 reason
past socket
The paranoia is the worst thing about gen AI and LLM art
I do understand the hatred among creatives
past socket
I absolutely despise gen AI and LLMs myself because we all know why it’s being pushed by venture capitalists aside from most of them being degenerate gamblers
Like imagine the the kind of good that could actually be done with the money VenCaps seem to throw into a wood chipper for fun
sleek ferry
Artists be like “it’s so hard to get opportunities for us”
Artists when somebody else gets an opportunity “look at this imperfection here, I think they used AI 🤪 “
past socket
I absolutely understand and agree with the apprehension towards gen AI in creative spaces
Stuff like this is just bad optics
It’s like wackos banging on about strange conspiracy theories about George Soros
There’s good reason to not like it, you don’t need to make stuff up
glad peak
If spiderman 3 were made today, Brock would’ve been fired for using AI
Oh wait Tom Holland’s spiderman could do the funniest thing in the next movie
They could recreate the scene where Peter confronts Brock in the office but this time it’s about AI art
glad peak
Stuff like this is just bad optics
Tbh wotc coming out and saying something along the lines of “yes we’re going to use AI, what’re you going to do about it” is fueling a lot of this
past socket
People being justifiably angry and unfortunately not expressing that anger well
Anger isn’t inherently a bad emotion, it’s how you express that anger and use it
Like lashing out at other artists for even the slightest perceived evidence of AI generation
steady onyx
https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/spiderman/images/1/12/SpiderMan_NoMore_comicSc...
no ik but I like the use of it and i rly like not having it squared
copper pecan
Tbh wotc coming out and saying something along the lines of “yes we’re going to ...
they literally said they aren't going to use it on mtg or dnd
granite badge
Just ran into an Orzhov list main decking [[Tinybones, Bauble Burglar]]. You kno...
I lost to this a bit ago but bc I got hosed on lands and the tinybones got no value bc they didn't have enough mana to cast any of my things
copper pecan
in an advertisement, not on an actual card
past socket
For promotional materials ye
copper pecan
and that was because the assets they bought from a vendor weren't labled properly
not because they were like "hmm yes let's use ai on purpose"
but regardless i feel like even if the artist of whatever card this whole witch hunt was about did use ai the reaction would have still been ridiculously out of proportion
lusty trench
I remember them getting caught for it though
They also got caught in a dnd manual
Which is why wotc has the no ai policy to begin with
past socket
If one’s gonna hate, hate efficiently and properly
The best way to sabotage your argument is by arguing it badly
golden plover
Okay this kinda fucks
Maybe Omni in standard was a mistake
Historically that card has never been abused and cheated out
zinc shard
Stonks day
golden plover
Lmao @subtle sierra just had control side in authority on me
I'm on Omni combo
That gives me the win
golden plover
well you get to start your own counter now
True. It's actually worse than them siding it in against you lol
Since it actively makes my deck go a little faster
golden plover
It actively says "Your opponent wins the game" in the MU
subtle sierra
did you spam "nice" to point out they won you a game
golden plover
Nah, just "good game" the second they did it lol
subtle sierra
golden plover
I had that game regardless
But like, that actively hurts them
I think they boarded it in because I looped river regents to draw my whole deck after I was online?
subtle sierra
that's not a good reason
golden plover
But like, I'll just play more dragons if you do that. I will kill you the turn it matters
Also, I can just remove it mid combo lol
subtle sierra
ye
stark skiff
https://preview.redd.it/spm-tokens-of-spider-man-v0-o2j5b9hd5dnf1.jpg?width=640&...
new favorite copy token
glad peak
Psychic frog + hobgoblin can kill t3
Either 17 damage on the play (well enough to kill after fetch shock or lock someone out of fetching anymore) or 20 damage on the draw
14/17 if you thoughtseize, which is a smart play as is and lowers the chance of your opponents being able to stop you
stark skiff
Psychic frog + hobgoblin can kill t3
Oh no. @atomic harness is unstoppable now
glad peak
Hey I play grixis tempo too 
atomic harness
Grixis pog
zinc shard
atomic harness
sigh @glad peak I need some insight 
crazy commander adventures
Guy consistently kills me on t3/t4 with Tifa
I win like one time using some free commander spells
"Hey man, reduce the number of free spells in your deck. It's way too strong. I only play 2"
In any case I took out a few
copper pecan
just realized they didn't make an uncle ben card
past socket
yet
copper pecan
i mean, if they're not gonna do it in the set themed around spiderman i don't think they're gonna do it anywhere else
sudden lava
crazy commander adventures
Guy consistently kills me on t3/t4 with Tifa
I wi...
Lemme guess, they have an akromas will
broken fjord
The answer to that request is always no.
Hell, I'll slot in bad free spells in front of them. Like Foil.
sudden lava
ready to play Quina tomorrow if I go to locals
past socket
I just think the Uncle Ben card is a matter of when
Surprised it hasn’t come up yet though
broken fjord
I'm surprised it took until this year for people to realize Jeweled Amulet is good.
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Artifact
, : Put a charge counter on this artifact. Note the type of mana spent to pay this activation cost. Activate only if there are no charge counters on this artifact.
, Remove a charge counter from this artifact: Add one mana of this artifact's last noted type.
atomic harness
The answer to that request is always no.
Yeahh I'd really want to keep them lol
The ones I use are defensive spells anyway
Fierce, rollick, flawless, Snuff out, flare of Fortitude
atomic harness
Yeah I need fow tbh
broken fjord
Also, Pentad Prism is really nice in decks that want a mana bank for a crucial explosive turn.
twilit canyon
i'd say fon too
cus opportunity loss of being able to play it on 3 other player's turns is nice actually
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subtle sierra
just realized they didn't make an uncle ben card
didn't they make extra sheet rip with his grave?
glad peak
Yeahh I'd really want to keep them lol
Just tell him you’ll start playing less free spells as soon as he stops playing voltron
If he starts going on about having agency in choices, throw that argument back at him
atomic harness
Yeah idt its fair to complain when he consistently like mops us. 48+ commander trample is really hard to stop before most non free removal spells are live 
The free spells didnt even win me the game it was a turn 2 sheoldred's edict I had to do instead of playing my commander
Thank you sheoldred's edict
glad peak
“Hey man, reduce the number of voltron cards in your deck. It’s way too strong. I play 0”
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atomic harness
“Hey man, reduce the number of voltron cards in your deck. It’s way too strong. ...
I got to reanimate toxrill that game too 
[[gary the snail]]
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Legendary Creature — Slug Horror
At the beginning of each end step, put a slime counter on each creature you don't control.
Creatures you don't control get -1/-1 for each slime counter on them.
Whenever a creature you don't control with a slime counter on it dies, create a 1/1 black Slug creature token.
, Sacrifice a Slug: Draw a card.
7/7
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glad peak
Classic reanimator target
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golden plover
New favorite play in Simic Omni: Pre-emptively "Good Gaming" them to lie about it lol
Go into m2 with a tapped Kona and just hit them with the GG and they usually scoop
trail anvil
god the death by vanilla achievement was the hardest just cause people kept scooping early before I managed to get 5 vanilla creatures cast lmao
trail anvil
on the last game for the final achievement I finally managed to akroma's memorial my rats too
gritty nest
How bad is the spider-man set so far?
sudden lava
How bad is the spider-man set so far?
its fully revealed
gritty nest
Just kinda average?
copper pecan
yeah
trail anvil
it's horrible, worst set ever. wizards asked to implode.
glad peak
Set’s pretty bad and isnt even meant for low powered drafting
There’s some standouts but overall I’m disappointed
Also a lot of the faces look really weird
tardy echo
@twilit canyon do u know anything about how vintage decks work
tardy echo
How does the mono blue artifact deck win
twilit canyon
oh lol
tardy echo
I see how it has infinite mana and etc
twilit canyon
painfully
tardy echo
But simply not how it kill’s you
twilit canyon
genuinely does so by being a pita
being able to go infinite means u can kinda go forever until you set up a board/hand state that cannot lose
will it just kill you with saga tokens over 2-3 turns as you are unable to ever do anything to them in that time? yeah
will it use metamorph to win? also yeah
ik nowdays they use tezz
and the deck will board in cannoneer cus there are decks that are explosive enough to win through locks
tardy echo
Crazy
twilit canyon
a lot of sickos play vintage
they unironically play oath of druids and the best they can do is cheat in atraxa
shit ppl be doing with reanimate in legacy
or fucking goryos in modern
for the same mana
without the delay of oath
and they go yeah
nevermind that sometimes, if they get unlucky, oath might make them fuck their own combo bc the opponent snipes a hate piece off the top
cus it aint like initiative isnt popular/good
initiative too
vintage players saw mono white cards and said yeah
subtle sierra
[[spider-sense]] is this a decent card for control? I'm thinking on getting 2 copies for my side
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Instant
Web-slinging (You may cast this spell for if you also return a tapped creature you control to its owner's hand.)
Counter target instant spell, sorcery spell, or triggered ability.
"My spider-sense—it's tingling! Something behind me!"
twilit canyon
its a bit niche
it is ultimately worse than negate besides cute interactions with beza/tidebinder
subtle sierra
Yeah i was specifically thinking of cucking dimir
Hmm maybe i just stick tidebinder
What about [[fluid felon]]?
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Legendary Creature — Elemental Villain
Whenever you cast a blue spell, if Hydro-Man is a creature, he gets +1/+1 until end of turn.
At the beginning of your end step, untap Hydro-Man. Until your next turn, he becomes a land and gains ": Add ." (He's not a creature during that time.)
"Well, I always wanted a waterfront view." —Spider-Man
2/2
twilit canyon
if it had a buyout for 1 mana, maybe
fluid felon is basically just. good u know?
i wish it was a permanent upgrade in power but maybe thats too broken
best thing of him as uu ramp that can become an attacker
which has niche but never going above 2/2 is a bit rough and cannot defend
subtle sierra
I mostly see it as a creature that punches constantly in a control matchup while giving me ramp
tardy echo
or fucking goryos in modern
Can u also explain the whole goryos thing to me
twilit canyon
goryo's vengeance is def a stuck in modern thing
tardy echo
How is goryos a different deck than plain old reanimator
twilit canyon
more or less since modern has no other good reanimation
tardy echo
In modern
twilit canyon
the only other options are [[persist]]
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twilit canyon
which has its limits
tardy echo
Is it literally just
twilit canyon
and the 4 mana+ spells
tardy echo
Goryos is for legendary
twilit canyon
yep more or less lol
tardy echo
Crazy
twilit canyon
goryo's is played with frog
tardy echo
Does the splice ever matter
twilit canyon
[[psychic frog]]
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twilit canyon
you get kind of the best of both worlds
tardy echo
Bc that seemed a little cute
twilit canyon
Does the splice ever matter
in older builds it did
nowdays
no
they used to play mardu
tardy echo
What other arcane cards are even playable
twilit canyon
with [[through the breach]]
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Instant — Arcane
You may put a creature card from your hand onto the battlefield. That creature gains haste. Sacrifice that creature at the beginning of the next end step.
Splice onto Arcane 
(As you cast an Arcane spell, you may reveal this card from your hand and pay its splice cost. If you do, add this card's effects to that spell.)
tardy echo
Joely
twilit canyon
we havent seen it again more or less
tardy echo
Was it literally just in the original kamigawa set
That’s crazy
Wait why isn’t any other reanimator stuff legal in modern
tardy echo
The modern legal card pool is very confusing to me
atomic harness
This kid sigh
Grixis reanimator is good kid
persist 
[[emperor of bones]] can also reanimate
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Creature — Skeleton Noble
At the beginning of combat on your turn, exile up to one target card from a graveyard.
: Adapt 2.
Whenever one or more +1/+1 counters are put on this creature, put a creature card exiled with this creature onto the battlefield under your control with a finality counter on it. It gains haste. Sacrifice it at the beginning of the next end step.
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atomic harness
tardy echo
Grixis reanimator is good kid
Didn’t say it wasn’t…
atomic harness
[[unearth]]
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Sorcery
Return target creature card with mana value 3 or less from your graveyard to the battlefield.
Cycling (, Discard this card: Draw a card.)
No matter how deep you bury it, some evil refuses to stay dead.
tardy echo
Goryos is also sicko mode
twilit canyon
The modern legal card pool is very confusing to me
yeah
its a very interesting format as a result
fallow citrus
I saw hammer won an mtgo event the other day and it had me shook
steady onyx
went 2-1 at mtg standard
was happy with how the deck performed
still would love to ahve the 2 more ouroboid
but pawpatch is a hell of a card
sleek ferry
steady onyx
is it possible to build a massacre girl known killer bracket 4 deck on a budget?
or do i need to spend a lot
glad peak
I don’t see why not but it’ll be weak
steady onyx
I don’t see why not but it’ll be weak
hm ok
tardy echo
@twilit canyon question about pioneer decks
twilit canyon
are they bad on purpose? yeah
tardy echo
Word
twilit canyon
pioneer players are bad
tardy echo
How does the lotus field deck work
twilit canyon
badly
tardy echo
Do u just seriously hope u draw it
tardy echo
Insane
twilit canyon
nothing that isnt just going to cause them more trouble
tardy echo
Also why does this deck play omni
twilit canyon
[[elvish reclaimer]] is his name i think? but this has issues too
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This creature gets +2/+2 as long as there are three or more land cards in your graveyard.
, , Sacrifice a land: Search your library for a land card, put it onto the battlefield tapped, then shuffle.
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twilit canyon
Also why does this deck play omni <:icant:1310294700384714813>
thoughts and prayers
tardy echo
Insane
twilit canyon
moreso bc they can hit the 10 but end up not being able to generate more mana
tardy echo
Surely you’d rather just play one insaneo game winning spell
twilit canyon
so omni is a good out to them to let their combo actually happen
twilit canyon
omni is there bc they will have an end loop where they cant keep making mana
tardy echo
Also does pioneer not have the double mana lands
twilit canyon
so its a failsafe
tardy echo
Like growth chamber etc
trail anvil
is pioneer still the rakdos midrange show
tardy echo
While we’re on this subject
How does the all spells deck in legacy work
Is it just a thoracle thing
atomic harness
Lotus field is for noobs little cake
twilit canyon
How does the all spells deck in legacy work
oops is nowdays more often than not a thoracle abuser yeah
but they do have other lines
they used to run a haste enabler from the yard to go off that way too
tardy echo
oops is nowdays more often than not a thoracle abuser yeah
How does it achieve thoracle
Do mdfc with backside lands not count as lands for the dig cards?
twilit canyon
[[dread return]]
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twilit canyon
[[balustrade spy]]
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tardy echo
do backside lands not count for this then
twilit canyon
it is a pretty fun format
the issue is that realistically
not many ppl play it
and there is a steep learning curve due to the card pool
tardy echo
Oops and eldrazi and ocelot pride and the all lands deck and delver and forge are all fire…
Sigh
Some things aren’t meant to be
Do ppl actually play modern btw
MH cards always look so sick
twilit canyon
i'd say timeless is a pretty good legacy comparison but its so weird in its own right
tardy echo
Does anyone actually play timeless fr though
Also isn’t that lurrus land
Like the one non rotating 60 card format that hasn’t banned it I’m pretty sure
Besides vintage but lol
glad peak
Modern and legacy are both really good rn
twilit canyon
Does anyone actually play timeless fr though
yeah its decently popular
but it is hard to get into
glad peak
Vintage also banned the cat, no? I actually can’t remember
glad peak
Oh huh
S:P to 1 lookin-ass
I know Lurrus had some applications in the main deck lol
Guess they limited him after the errata since you can’t do the stupid lotus > lurrus > lotus line with 1 card anymore
tardy echo
I didn’t realize he was banned in vintage at one point
How long is the list of actual cards that have been vintage banned that aren’t uncards
And also not racist and/or shahrazad/ party time cards/conspiracy
sleek ferry
Has anybody’s lgs given them a pricing on the Spider-Man prerelease yet?
zinc shard
Bruh
trail anvil
what, that's a common card in historic brawl for white
side note, I feel like karumonix is a better commander than marrow-gnawer for rrat brawl, cause you run into removal piles so often in that format
and versus basically any creature-based deck you can farm them anyways by outvaluing them since you have unofficial deathtouch
fallow citrus
https://scryfall.com/card/rvr/66/balustrade-spy
my favourite pauper combo
steady onyx
Lowk legacy seems so cool
bro the format is ngl really fun
im having a lot of fun learning it
steady onyx
@twilit canyon sorry for ping but I have question for you since u super smart abt mtg I know ive already showed u my deck and blah blah blah vivi blah blah blah, but where im playing it rn i really play against 4 decks
jeskai control
azorious control
golgari midrange
dimir midrange
and my biggest issue is aginst the control mu not even the starcage just like the day of judgments.
is there any change u think that may help against that mu, because im able to get good tempo turn 1,2,3 and get them down to like 4,5 but then they just day of judgment or ultima or something along those lines and i just cant recover against the counterspells and removal after my board is gone. and i feel if i play slower i just cant keep up with all the disruption they have
https://moxfield.com/decks/Sm9qVa0PwEWnP_YZHIIbqQ
idk ive just played agsinst these decks a lot and never won against the jeskai and won a couple times agains thte azorious and just asking for help cause im stuck at what to do, they reccomend frenzied baloth but idk if that really helps agains tthe boardwipes
twilit canyon
you are blue you can play spell pierce
steady onyx
oh i didnt think about that
hm
ok
in side prob
hmm ok
u think spell peirce over royal treatment?
i want 4 istg
but idk
twilit canyon
its often a better card
golden plover
Did they just have random art lying around lol?
The greaves and sol ring are big stretches
These are cooler tho, original art and inked
Lol both lairs have greaves, command tower, and sol ring
steady onyx
These are cooler tho, original art and inked
is this all one secret lair?
i want the venom one
holy shit it looks so cool
golden plover
is this all one secret lair?
2 lairs. One colored, one inked
steady onyx
2 lairs. One colored, one inked
how much
ive never bought secret lair before
i wanna get the inked one tho
golden plover
They'd never give you like 10 cards for $40 lol
golden plover
The website on September 22
golden plover
https://magic.wizards.com/en/mtgarena/through-the-omenpaths/card-image-gallery
So many of these arts are just vastly better holy shit
Web-slinging is "enweb"
They whitewashed the Duskmorn cheerleader everyone hated lol
lusty trench
It oddly looks like its just her face
Might be the low res screwing with the lighting
golden plover
Yeah, it's probably just the lighting
Also, lots of weird spiders in arts as to be expected lol
Okay this is way better than the green goblin lol
copper pecan
now that's a scrunkly oomfie right there
golden plover
I love Fleem
Symbiote is unchanged as a typeline
Although this is cooler than spider gwen
golden plover
Going through these, they're definitely mostly slush art from recent sets
copper pecan
idk i think most of these look pretty good
golden plover
Vast majority are planes from the past two years and look a little less polished
They look fine, and in some cases better
But it's definitely slush art for most of it
This art is so much better. Hopefully we get a paper print soon
It's Tearling Time
golden plover
The spider boar is scarier
steady onyx
whats the venom commander?
is there one
i wanna play a commander deck with all the inked secret lair cards
zinc shard
New to Arena Reprints
steady onyx
ok there are 3 commanders
twilit canyon
ponder and opp agent are huge
zinc shard
Oh web slinging has been changed to "enweb"
steady onyx
brother
i know what im dropping 100 on
the lands and the inked cards
and building a venom commander deck
misty u better help me i cant build decks for shit :9
:(
twilit canyon
like a mess most likely (in a good way)
fallow citrus
maybe it's time to get the wildcards to make delver then
this will always be funny to me too
izzet delver
look inside
no delver
twilit canyon
fallow citrus
like a mess most likely (in a good way)
are there any free resources about the format or is it just the wild west
twilit canyon
theres a website that has an ok collection fo decklists
but overall, its a pretty free-form format
since theres a very wide card pool and a lot of it is reasonable if you are a good enough deckbuilder and/or know what the meta is like
which the aforementioned place is
idr it off the top
1 sec
there we go
fallow citrus
🫡 thanks
gilded glade
kill it with plasma
Awww he looks like he would be supporting all those creature types
subtle sierra
he is very supportive
sudden lava
too huge
subtle sierra
don't fat shame him
gilded glade
He would eat me
But he gives +1/+1 to cats
sudden lava
Just juicing them up to eat later, is that why he makes a food token
Wouldnt be the first spider creature to represent webbing their prey with the food token
stark skiff
kill it with plasma
Hero
Eating everyone
zinc shard
I love what they're doing with the symbiote cards in Omenpaths
they're like big scaley armor thats alive, looks cool
glad peak
Tbh if they made phyrexian oil into this I wouldn’t be mad
Even if it meant that the oil doesn’t fully infect or compleat them
fallow citrus
atomic harness
Like this is sick
For some reason the omenpath stuff looks way better than supaidaman cards?? @twilit canyon
twilit canyon
its some nice og art from across magic planes. i think they do look good.
tho i find spider-man would be cooler
atomic harness
trail anvil
I'm liking this universes within stuff, especially when we get more new capenna, ikoria and bloomburrow stuff
yuriko is not a fair commander in brawl 😭
bout to get less fair with force of negation joining too
atomic harness
I'm liking this universes within stuff, especially when we get more new capenna,...
atomic harness
sudden lava
red wins
atomic harness
trail anvil
idk I think redditors are overreacting. the card is clearly way too pushed but you need to have pushed cards in sets for a number of reasons
trail anvil
Yuriko is not a fair commander
in cedh she seems fine but brawl has like so few commanders that can keep up with her lol
ik mono green is probably the worst color to face to illustrate that though lol
twilit canyon
shes just bad in cedh nowdays (not really just heavily powercrept)
trail anvil
what's the top commander/s rn, rogsi? tymna kraum?
steady onyx
I'm liking this universes within stuff, especially when we get more new capenna,...
i ngl really liked bloomburrow
steady onyx
and other blue farm lists
did my boy urza fall off?
glad peak
Long time ago
atomic harness
He's too fair
word me mudkip
If you wanted to win with artifacts magda does it more efficiently
glad peak
Nah turning all your artifacts into a mox sapphire is not fair
atomic harness
🧢
steady onyx
If you wanted to win with artifacts magda does it more efficiently
i dont wanna win with artifacts
i wanna win with stax
:(