Magic the Gathering

[sudden lava]

Also as people said, Bello is a fun commander. Trash panda chucking artifacts and enchantments at people 💖 mass respect to the commander

(though I don't have a Bello list, I see it around the LGS)

[fast tide]

Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

How reliant on upgrades is trash panda or bunny? Or are they plenty playable oob?

[sudden lava]

Bunny is pretty good out the box, though her upgrades aren't too expensive

[fast tide]

@atomic harness how's the trash panda by comparison?

[sudden lava]

The funny thing to do with trash panda, vehicles

https://tenor.com/view/funny-animals-raccoon-scooter-raccoon-on-scooter-trash-panda-gif-11848068

[fast tide]

Oh god you can throw vehicles at people too?!

[sudden lava]

Yup

as long as they are mana value 4+

[fast tide]

SOLD AMERICAN

[sudden lava]

Bello even gives the enchantments/artifacts haste so the stuff can be thrown the turn they are placed down

[fast tide]

https://tenor.com/wWpX.gif

Cool I'll eye it up

Still keeping Bumbleflower bookmarked though she looks super fun and a playstyle I've never even thought of before

[atomic harness]

Bello is rly strong with vehicles but you do have to protect your commander

Otherwise its cracked you get so much value

my friend keeps playing this hideaway buggy card

[sudden lava]

also bumbleflower precon comes with the cutest of the planeswalker animals (each precon came with 1)

[fast tide]

fffffffffffffffffffffffff

Welp

[atomic harness]

Enjoy little duckster

I need to build a different deck because my entire table keeps dying to our friend's vandalblast

[gritty nest]

I tore apart my bumbleflower because nobody ever interacted with me and those that did got beat to death. When I’d (obviously) win, the other players would get salty about it

[trail anvil]

@golden plover good news for you

coming september 2, so really soon

oh no sorry preorders start september 2 lmao, 23rd is the release date

[tardy echo]

That’s still very soon no

[trail anvil]

depends on how you see time

[tardy echo]

<30 days

[sudden lava]

the other 3 of the bloomburrow planeswalkers in the precon (from left to right it's Bello precon, Zinnia precon, and Hazel precon)

[fast tide]

Oh my lord they're all cool

[past socket]

[[!Liliana of the Dark Realms|BLC]]

[lost widget]

https://scryfall.com/card/blc/78/liliana-of-the-dark-realms

Liliana of the Dark Realms

[past socket]

[[!Nissa, Who Shakes The World|BLC]]

[lost widget]

https://scryfall.com/card/blc/84/nissa-who-shakes-the-world

Nissa, Who Shakes the World

[fast tide]

There we go

Bello deck ordered and a smattering of upgrades ordered

[past socket]

Ooo Bello is incredibly funny

[fast tide]

Lowkey thought about getting

The idea of a screaming raccoon yeeting a necron monolith while necron warriors spill out of the eternity gate is hysterical to me

But the mill doesn't quite work with the deck

[past socket]

It is very possible to do Vehicle funnies with Bello too

Considering how he works allows you to not bother with Crew costs

[fast tide]

Yeah I didn't go too crazy but I got some fun ones

Thanks renren for the buggy rec

And these seem like they'd have fun interactions too Thunderhulk would enter as a 7/7 right? And shits out seven 1/1 gnomes, then I can immediately attack and shit out seven more gnomes?

Kind of wanted roaming throne but holy fuck that's an expensive bitch

[atomic harness]

Yeah we've been getting owned by this haha

The deck is really resilient to usual wipes when it gets going because most of your threats are vehicles or enchantments/artifacts that are not creatures

then the value you get off hitting should be enough to just recast bello if he dies

Ofc theres dedicated artifact hate but thats usually on the rarer side (rip to a farewell ig)

I think the stuff you have to worry about is mass artifact hate
Ppl killing 🅱️ello too much

And alpha strikes

[stark skiff]

People kiling Bello will be your biggest problem

usually just gets removed right away.

[atomic harness]

Tfw theres only 2 ppl with removal in the pod (me and combo guy)

And im the one tanking the other guy's removal

So these green kids just get to have fun

[stark skiff]

holy your pods sound like hell. my pods usually have a decent amount of interactions from all sides

[atomic harness]

Yeah I havent been playing much

Combo guy just lets the other value kids do whatever because Im literally the only one that can stop him

and so im also the only one hes focusing

[stark skiff]

we've been converting a decent amount of players to commander at our shop so its been helpful in instilling good habits lol

[ornate cedar]

Ngl I haven’t felt the need to play magic in a good minute because I’m having more fun with YGO at the moment

That, and ironically YGO is cheaper than Magic atm

[waxen timber]

I mostly play Commander and draft but, my LGS has had a hard time running drafts for current releases

For Final Fantasy draft, they only had enough product to do 1 draft and the draft they did was more expensive with less prizing

This might be just because they didn't order enough but, they also ran out of EoE within 2 weeks so they couldn't do that much EoE draft

[glad peak]

If you play commander, technically always has been true

[ornate cedar]

Unless you wanna play the real cards lol but yeah it’s not required

I still haven’t played with my Doctor Who deck, need to get around to that

[trail anvil]

man even oswald fiddlebender is playing fucking strip mine lock now lmao

[golden plover]

Yeah, strip mine is a problem in 1v1 formats

Turns out always being ahead on lands is good

[glad peak]

They should bring port into the game

[ornate cedar]

I just realized something

How long until labubu secret lair?

[glad peak]

Depends

But it’s also possible there’s going to be a labubu inspired set in about 2 years

[ornate cedar]

Does Labubu even have the lore for that?

I don’t know a thing about the show lol

[glad peak]

No idea but would that stop wotc?

[ornate cedar]

Sigh they’re gonna make a skibidi toilet set one day aren’t they?

[glad peak]

I think skibidi toilet is too niche for them

Oh I know where labubus can come in

Due to the popularity of kpop demon hunters, there will be a kpop themed set with an enemies to lovers storyline and in there there’s a collectible set of artifacts that look like a bastardization of chibi monsters

[copper pecan]

there is no show

it's just figurines

[glad peak]

There’s a children’s book on it

Well, a book that has them

[ornate cedar]

This is not true, I know there is a show, or at least I’m pretty sure of it

Oh it’s in development

Then what did I watch? Maybe it was just content farms idk

Ok you’re right oomphie

[golden plover]

Okay yeah brawl is fucked

W6 is insane lol

[golden plover]

Bundles and Commander Precons cost $10 more as of Lorwyn Eclipsed 🙁

Oh and collector boosters are $27 MSRP

[lusty trench]

Didn't they like

Put up prices a year ago?

[sleek ferry]

Its been a couple of years since they put precon prices up iirc

Like post Covid if I remember

[golden plover]

They went from $40 to $45 like 2022ish?

Now they're $55 for a commander precon and almost $60 for a bundle

Which is crazy btw, considering you can get the same amount of packs for like $3 less

What are you paying for then? $3 for the dice?

[sudden lava]

new precons

for Lorwyn

Commander bundle includes 4 decks (keep in mind this doesnt indicate 4 different precons)

[gritty nest]

Have any of you heard of an LGS doing essentially a pro membership thing?

[lusty trench]

I have, essentially ensures certain players get stock and at msrp for continuing to support the store

Honestly, if it comes with free usage of the play spaces, im all for them

[gritty nest]

As far as I understood it, $10 month gets you 10 store credit, 10% off, and apparently cash back as store credit

[sudden lava]

My LGS has one but forgot what the benefits were

[trail anvil]

christ I've suddenly run into a massive spike in wrenn and six in brawl for some reason

[glad peak]

Now that I think about it when was the first time wotc decided to balance sets around archetypes

[copper pecan]

mirage was the first set to be designed with specific archetypes in mind

if you mean the color pair draft archetypes then idk which one was the first to be designed around those

[atomic harness]

Mirage

[copper pecan]

apparently theros was the first set that used the current design structure of "every color pair gets a limited archetype"

[atomic harness]

I kinda wish kunoros was a little bit better

[glad peak]

Interesting

Yeah I remember mirage and tempest having a lot of fans but I never played them

[atomic harness]

Thank you mr mudkip

Also the pod dynamic seems to be improving when I was away
The green kids are finally looking their way at mr combo man who always destroys them with the free spells

[stark skiff]

Well when the crutch is gone they either need to adapt or just die

[atomic harness]

Yeah I'm the one trying to keep us alive because I want to play more magic not less lols

[broken fjord]

I know that feeling. Though I have a very "gun to your head" form of deterrence. Not for every play, or even most.

[gritty nest]

can someone tell me why [[frenzied baloth]] is $2?

[lost widget]

https://scryfall.com/card/eoe/183/frenzied-baloth

Frenzied Baloth <:manag:292901508654301185><:manag:292901508654301185>

Creature — Beast
This spell can't be countered.
Trample, haste
Creature spells you control can't be countered.
Combat damage can't be prevented.
Not all species on Evendo welcomed the thawing of the ice.
3/2

[twilit canyon]

card's ass

[gritty nest]

whys that

[broken fjord]

I guess people like that it makes sure your creatures resolve and prevents fogs.

[twilit canyon]

neither effect is useful at the cost.

[golden plover]

Hmm having a decent bit of luck with Tidebinder in Dimir against Cauldron. Turns off Cauldron or Vivi

Deck is still unfair and needs a ban, but Tidebinder is helping lol

[subtle sierra]

Yeah i need to get two more tidebinders

I kinda wanna side 4

Tishana even hitting random shit like drowner or bat is kinda clutch sometimes

[golden plover]

Card is very solid, I just always feel bad when it's a 3/2 that dies on spot

[subtle sierra]

That is true but since cut down rotated it's slightly better

If they waste a stab on her it's fine since she still negates

[golden plover]

Yeah true

[subtle sierra]

Or even better, waste mana on tragic trajectory

[glad peak]

I actually can’t remember, what happens if you pull from tomorrow a card “under” Agatha’s? Or more commonly, if you Agatha’s your commander in grave and then put it into the command zone right after?

[subtle sierra]

Then they have to lose tempo cause you're suddenly in no more lies range

[glad peak]

Iirc creatures with counters no longer have the card that was under Agatha’s because it’s no longer a “card exiled by Agatha’s soul cauldron”, right?

[golden plover]

Yeah if the card isn't in the cauldron, they don't get the ability

[glad peak]

Welp back to building lantern control in commander

Nah tho I’m glad I got the lands portion of my 15 card modular cube all set

The rest is easy: just go through my favorite draft archetypes/sets and port over their 15

Oh and figure out a way to remove the parasites of course (energy is the worst one here unfortunately because I like the mh drafts)

[ornate cedar]

Are the EOE precons good or should I get singles?

[atomic harness]

World shaper is really strong and only needs a few changes (take out the wastes)

[sudden lava]

World Shaper is good

[steady onyx]

if I want to build a new commander deck is a parnter commander deck or enchantment tribal a better direction

i want something thats not too expensive

and it just kinda fun

ive always wanted to try some like enchantment tribal but ikd

idk what enchantment are good but like eriette seems cool I like sythis because she is cheap, I like go shintai, i just dont wanna play a complete like wait a while and play the game deck

[glad peak]

Ahem

[steady onyx]

i want to ahve some early board presence

idk

[glad peak]

Erinis + street urchin

Sythis is very very good if you’re willing to do multiple storm turns with no wins until you can win

[steady onyx]

hmm

is eriette good

she honestly seems like the most fun to me

but idk

or aniketha

[glad peak]

Which eriette?

[steady onyx]

the charmed apple

[glad peak]

[[aniketha]] iirc was pretty fun

[lost widget]

No card found for “aniketha”

[steady onyx]

yeah

[glad peak]

I remember some stupid combo with it but it’s also very heavy stax

I don’t really like the charmed apple one, honestly plays out very boring

[steady onyx]

or wait

edgar is finally cheap

...

cause I like decks where commanders are cheap

or the deck functions without them on field

also [[calix guided by fate]]

[lost widget]

https://scryfall.com/card/mat/26/calix-guided-by-fate

Calix, Guided by Fate <:mana1:292901508373282827><:manag:292901508654301185><:manaw:1007102126813610074>

Legendary Enchantment Creature — Human Druid
Constellation — Whenever Calix or another enchantment you control enters, put a +1/+1 counter on target creature.
Whenever Calix or an enchanted creature you control deals combat damage to a player, you may create a token that's a copy of a nonlegendary enchantment you control. Do this only once each turn.
2/2

[glad peak]

Speaking of decks that heavily benefit off stax and mld

[steady onyx]

is he really heavy stax

[glad peak]

Doesn’t have to be

[steady onyx]

i kinda always thought he was more agro

but idk

[glad peak]

But he’s the old school mentality of “build big enough board then destroy all lands to freeze the board”

[steady onyx]

ok ngl

calix seems v interesting to me

but idk about selesnya

[trail anvil]

seconding anikthea

the black splash into abzan gives you some really fun stuff to dip into and using your graveyard as a second hand is always fun

[glad peak]

Tbh most decks should just be made with stax pieces ngl

I can’t remember [[yosei]]’s full text

[lost widget]

https://scryfall.com/card/ima/39/yosei-the-morning-star

Yosei, the Morning Star <:mana4:292901508712890379><:manaw:1007102126813610074><:manaw:1007102126813610074>

Legendary Creature — Dragon Spirit
Flying
When Yosei dies, target player skips their next untap step. Tap up to five target permanents that player controls.
The caress of the morning star frees all from the clutch of darkness.
5/5

[trail anvil]

the precon is super solid too

[steady onyx]

what u think about calix tho

im between calix and anikthea rn

they both seem fun

[trail anvil]

I'd personally go for anikthea, especially if you're on a budget

[glad peak]

Anikthea because you’re going to be able to get better staples that way

[steady onyx]

hmm

can i at least put calix in the deck

;-;

he seems cool

[trail anvil]

yeah he's probably fine

if you really want you can build calix but I imagine it's way different, like some kind of aura voltron strategy

[steady onyx]

just like

my only worry

can anikthea playwithout commander on field?

and do I buy precon and upgrade

or what

[glad peak]

I’d suggest singles

[steady onyx]

ok

[glad peak]

Anikthea doesn’t need the commander and probably shouldn’t come out until you have stuff in grave

[trail anvil]

in the case of anikthea I'd actually buy the precon first, it genuinely has a lot of stuff you'd want for it

and you'll save on shipping costs

[glad peak]

Calix really needs the commander out on the field

[steady onyx]

but its cheaper

hes 3 mana

anikthea is 5

idk

but ok

[trail anvil]

if you really want a cheap commander you can just play sythis lol

[steady onyx]

no

no

no

i dont wanna play her

[glad peak]

3 is still very expensive since you need to double spell to get any impact on his first turn out

Why not sythis ?

[steady onyx]

boring

k ill buy precon

and upgrade later

omg its my bestie cake

[tardy echo]

I wish newgin had a real home in standard this card is so hype

But all the decks that play him are like

[steady onyx]

hes so fucking based

[tardy echo]

Ketramose or weirdo ramp

Both of which I enjoy playing but bleh

[glad peak]

Tbh enchantress in general is pretty boring

But at least this way you can draw cards

[trail anvil]

I actually like anikthea in terms of enchantress

normally it's a pretty bland strategy but graveyard synergy my beloved

[glad peak]

I actually like calix even though it’s a mix of the 2 least interesting things

[tardy echo]

[[anikthea]]

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https://scryfall.com/card/cmm/705/anikthea-hand-of-erebos

Anikthea, Hand of Erebos <:mana2:292901509060886528><:manaw:1007102126813610074><:manab:292901508872273920><:manag:292901508654301185>

Legendary Enchantment Creature — Demigod
Menace
Other enchantment creatures you control have menace.
Whenever Anikthea enters or attacks, exile up to one target non-Aura enchantment card from your graveyard. Create a token that's a copy of that card, except it's a 3/3 black Zombie creature in addition to its other types.
4/4

[tardy echo]

Theros had some super hype stuff

[golden plover]

I'm honestly kinda glad Newgin sucks in standard

I don't want you to exile my shit on a cast trigger, go away

[tardy echo]

• hates when aggro is good
• hates when combo is good
• hates when control is good

[trail anvil]

7 mana ugin makes me miss 8 mana ugin in standard lol

I remember using that in monowhite

[tardy echo]

6 mana ugin was also cool

Ugin is just a cool pw

Colorless cards are a cool design space

[trail anvil]

when are we getting all is dust on arena

wizards pls

[tardy echo]

[[all is dust]]

[lost widget]

https://scryfall.com/card/cmm/800/all-is-dust

All Is Dust <:mana7:292901508540792835>

Kindred Sorcery — Eldrazi
Each player sacrifices all permanents they control that are one or more colors.
"The emergence of the Eldrazi isn't necessarily a bad thing, as long as you've already lived a fulfilling and complete life without regrets." —Javad Nasrin, Ondu relic hunter

[tardy echo]

This isn’t in arena yet??

[twilit canyon]

nope

[trail anvil]

I'd slam it straight into ugin otherwise

[hidden ermine]

Not the only thing you would slam into Ugin I wager

[tardy echo]

I have something I’d

Fuck

[hidden ermine]

Ninja'd

[sleek ferry]

I hear you, but [[farewell]] any response?

[lost widget]

https://scryfall.com/card/mkc/64/farewell

Farewell <:mana4:292901508712890379><:manaw:1007102126813610074><:manaw:1007102126813610074>

Sorcery
Choose one or more —
• Exile all artifacts.
• Exile all creatures.
• Exile all enchantments.
• Exile all graveyards.

[trail anvil]

I'll pass, cake can have him

[tardy echo]

Let’s get this card back in standard

[hidden ermine]

Un afraud we already said Farewell

[copper pecan]

was farewell seb's last card?

if it was that's a crazy coincidence

[glad peak]

Wait seb isn’t doing art for wotc anymore?

[hidden ermine]

Nay

He got axed because of ...

[sleek ferry]

He had the whole anti vaxxer thing with the white supremacist group

[glad peak]

Oh huh

[hidden ermine]

Was it antivax bullshit or Qanon bullshit

Oh both

[sleek ferry]

Yeah, he double dipped

He could have gotten past just being an anti vaxxer probably

[glad peak]

Welp I can’t be bothered to remember who has and hasn’t been canceled anymore lmao

[golden plover]

I think he had a card in baldurs gate?

But he's definitely been axed since

Although they aren't consistent on changing his art yet and still reprint it sometimes

[sleek ferry]

Farewell got reprinted almost immediately tbf

It’s not as if all his arts are of relevant cards anyways

[golden plover]

Yeah but stuff like Archfiend of Ifnir got a reprint in Aetherdrift

And it kept his art

[sleek ferry]

Oh huh, I mean ig it was a commander reprint

Speculation, but I would think WotC doesn’t want his art to be held into for monetary gain

So reprinting his cards every now and then is probably not the worst idea?

[golden plover]

Typically they fully swap the art

And sometimes they have with him

Like Animatou's Augury has new art in Duskmorn commander

[sudden lava]

oh yeah ruling clarification since @fast tide was discussing Bello.
The way it works with vehicles/spacecraft is it will be a 4/4

[glad peak]

[[bello,]]

[lost widget]

Multiple cards match “bello,”, can you be more specific?

[sudden lava]

[[bello, bard]]

[lost widget]

https://scryfall.com/card/blc/1/bello-bard-of-the-brambles

Bello, Bard of the Brambles <:mana1:292901508373282827><:manar:292901508796645397><:manag:292901508654301185>

Legendary Creature — Raccoon Bard
During your turn, each non-Equipment artifact and non-Aura enchantment you control with mana value 4 or greater is a 4/4 Elemental creature in addition to its other types and has indestructible, haste, and "Whenever this creature deals combat damage to a player, draw a card."
3/3

[glad peak]

I think bello specifies non-creature artifacts so yep

Oh wait he doesn’t

But still yep

But if you crew it stays a 4/4 I think

[sudden lava]

oh is it overwrite always? thought I read something saying otherwise, ok

well, always on own turn

cuz Bello turns off on opponents turns

[glad peak]

I think it overwrites since on your turn it’s a static ability no matter if the artifact is a creature or not but it’s been a while since I looked at the rulings so

[trail anvil]

just realized w6 is an even more cancerous commander than I initially thought, you actually just can't play creatures with 1 toughness

is this how legacy players felt

[tardy echo]

It does indeed take a fair bit for a card to be banned in legacy

[twilit canyon]

now ppl understand

[fallow citrus]

w6 and bowmasters made 1 toughness creatures unplayable

you could cope with w6 but with bowmasters too it was just joever

[gritty nest]

Do any of you play mono black in commander?

[glad peak]

Turns out wasteland looping and also making thalia unplayable is pretty good in legacy

[zinc shard]

Im working on a Sephiroth deck, I love aristocrats

[broken fjord]

I have Zenos. Used to have Gix as well as Kaervek the Punisher.

[trail anvil]

I liked Junji with cheat effects

[glad peak]

i like yawgdaddy but losing green hurts

[sudden lava]

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/IoteTszng2w?feature=share

[atomic harness]

Thank you gamer

[gritty nest]

My friend is now having trouble with the same LGS I had the ancient tomb problems with. Same trade in issue, but they traded in a week before I did, where they were advertising the 80% credit. And then on top of that, said the master piece they traded in was fake

[atomic harness]

[golden plover]

Whoops WAR Nissa + Springheart Nantuko goes infinite

[steady onyx]

is sultai midrange good in standard?

i was like i know dimir midrange is good

and I know simic midrange is good

so if u mix the 2 toegether

they share green

so its has to be good no?

[tardy echo]

Simic midrange is “good”

And the 2 decks play very differently

There are sultai decks in standard but they play more like a control deck

[golden plover]

Just remembered how people freaked the fuck out about [[Lord Xander, the Collector]]

[lost widget]

https://scryfall.com/card/snc/197/lord-xander-the-collector

Lord Xander, the Collector <:mana4:292901508712890379><:manau:292901508754702338><:manab:292901508872273920><:manar:292901508796645397>

Legendary Creature — Vampire Demon Noble
When Lord Xander enters, target opponent discards half the cards in their hand, rounded down.
Whenever Lord Xander attacks, defending player mills half their library, rounded down.
When Lord Xander dies, target opponent sacrifices half the nonland permanents they control of their choice, rounded down.
6/6

[golden plover]

People said he was gonna be the most busted commander ever or whatever lol

You could make him 4 mana and make everything round up and he'd still be kinda bad

Could also strip the nonland clause off his death trigger lol

[glad peak]

People still think that whenever they see it at the table

Theyre wrong obviously but still

[golden plover]

Lmao good luck getting him out and able to swing

He's gonna die on the spot and I'll just lose my 2 worst guys for it

He reads 7 mana "discard 2, sacc 3 bad cards"

[glad peak]

Tbf these are also the guys who say mill is too strong

[lusty trench]

I think i still have my gilded xander

[golden plover]

This is still a bad card lol

[fallow citrus]

not even in white for the good flicker effects smh

[golden plover]

Honestly, there's like 3 flickers total in blue

And conjurers closet ig?

Cool 13 mana combo to make 2 players discard 2 each

[glad peak]

I’ve had one guy tell me that they saw a cedh video and they won with mill so mill is overpowered

[golden plover]

The fact that they pick is really what seals the deal on him being awful

[glad peak]

The mill they were talking about was brain freeze

[golden plover]

He will literally always grab the worst half of what the mode is

And because he rounds down, he can never take their last card or their last permanent

Ob actually killed this guy because he was so dogshit at doing anything

[gritty nest]

My friend got the cards back

Urza is fake but the Meekstone were unsure about

[sleek ferry]

Lord Xanders biggest strength is that his art is sexy

[glad peak]

So I talked to the guy who thought mill was cedh because he saw brain freeze winning a game

Now he thinks hope is cedh viable because you can gain a bunch of life with aetherflux and mill everyone out with it

[golden plover]

Lmao what

[glad peak]

“Hope + aetherflux + storming off = win, mill is broken” was the argument

[zinc shard]

Boy, its a shame Aetherflux Resevoir cant win the game on its own

[glad peak]

Ikr

Yes, someone else brought that up

Yes, he doubled down and said “well what if they played the one ring last turn”

Mans doesn’t know what instant speed is

[golden plover]

What if they played the one ring and have a tefs protection and an angels grace and a nexus of fate and you're under drannith magistrate and winter orb and silence

What would you do then

[glad peak]

True

[copper pecan]

what if the world was made of pudding

[glad peak]

For all we know, it is

We just don’t know it because we don’t know what not-pudding is

[golden plover]

Actually wait show them nexus

Tell them that half the time you can't mill out a blue deck in cedh

And the green one but who plays the green one

[fallow citrus]

wait until they learn about inkmoth nexus + colossus hammer

[glad peak]

Hmm brb showing them nexus but I think I know what their answer’s gonna be

[golden plover]

Wait until they learn about [[Blighted Agent]]

[lost widget]

https://scryfall.com/card/nph/29/blighted-agent

Blighted Agent <:mana1:292901508373282827><:manau:292901508754702338>

Creature — Phyrexian Human Rogue
Infect (This creature deals damage to creatures in the form of -1/-1 counters and to players in the form of poison counters.)
This creature can't be blocked.
"Urabrask may suspect our surveillance, but he cannot stop it." —Avaricta, Gitaxian sective
1/1

[golden plover]

Don't even have to jump through as many hoops

[glad peak]

Nah they already think infect is broken

[golden plover]

What did they say about nexus

[glad peak]

First it started with “that’s too expensive, no one in cedh plays this card”

[golden plover]

Did you tell them that most blue decks do lol

And half the time it's not even getting cast

It just stops the brain freeze win

[glad peak]

Then it became “hope can just mill their entire deck except for this and win on the turn after”

[golden plover]

"Hope can give the opponent infinite extra turns"

[glad peak]

Yeah I don’t think they registered that nexus will give them another card to draw after it gets cast

Tbf had an argument with them about infect a long long time ago and he was convinced no one in cedh played infect as a sort of gentleman’s agreement

[golden plover]

Lmao I wish there was a viable way to do infect in cedh

It's funky and it'd be funny

[fallow citrus]

gentlemens agreement not to play bad cards in cedh yeah

[trail anvil]

isn't this just bracket 4 in a nutshell

[golden plover]

Guys let's all agree now to not play [[Gray Ogre]] in cedh

[lost widget]

https://scryfall.com/card/4ed/200/gray-ogre

Gray Ogre <:mana2:292901509060886528><:manar:292901508796645397>

Creature — Ogre
The Ogre philosopher Gnerdel believed the purpose of life was to live as high on the food chain as possible. She refused to eat vegetarians, preferring to live entirely on creatures that preyed on sentient beings.
2/2

[golden plover]

Yeah, I just don't think infect has enough support even there

[fallow citrus]

I love the bracket system because I can make a bracket 3 deck with some fucked combos in because it doesn't use any game changers

[copper pecan]

there is no such thing as a "gentleman's agreement" in competitive anything

[fallow citrus]

I am also so shocked that some cards aren't game changers but maybe it's my 60 card goggles on

[golden plover]

Reminder about that one Yu-Gi-Oh thing lol

[copper pecan]

you take every advantage you can get without cheating or you lose

[fallow citrus]

like daze and gush aren't game changers?

[copper pecan]

if you're talking about the djinn incident yeah that was hilarious

[golden plover]

But don't forget that fucking [[Aura Shards]] is lmao

[lost widget]

https://scryfall.com/card/cmd/182/aura-shards

Aura Shards <:mana1:292901508373282827><:manag:292901508654301185><:manaw:1007102126813610074>

Enchantment
Whenever a creature you control enters, you may destroy target artifact or enchantment.
Gaea forged her soldiers into self-wielding weapons that struck down all impurities.

[fallow citrus]

HUH

[copper pecan]

weevil underwood moment

[golden plover]

Aura Shards is the funniest fucking game changer

Like bro this is just worse than a farewell

[fallow citrus]

I only just learned about which cards are game changers when making some lower bracket edh decks for friends

[golden plover]

Grand Arbiter is also a game changer

It's like they found a 5 year old article about what cards piss people off in commander and just went "that's the game changer list"

[fallow citrus]

coalition victory is a game changer...

[trail anvil]

yeah true honestly

[copper pecan]

i feel like coalition victory being a game changer makes sense

[trail anvil]

I think the best way to play it is atraxa but that's still gonna get you focused down super early

[golden plover]

Sway of the Stars is a game changer...

[copper pecan]

just controling a 5 color creature is not nearly a difficult enough hoop to jump through for a card that just wins the game on the spot

[golden plover]

Although tbh if someone plays Sway of the Stars against me and I don't have a counter I'm just gonna scoop

Not because they're winning but because that card is insufferable and just restarts the game

[trail anvil]

coalition victory and sway of the stars are probably coming off the game changer list soon, it's like konami with the semi-limited list

[fallow citrus]

glacial chasm is a funny one

[golden plover]

You are no closer to winning after a sway than you were before

In fact, you're almost guaranteed to be worse off

[trail anvil]

chasm is mostly cause people don't run land destruction

[fallow citrus]

is it just a game changer because people refuse to run land destruction

[golden plover]

Sway of the Stars is fine being unbanned, but the play pattern of that card is so annoying

[fallow citrus]

lmao

[golden plover]

Yes

[trail anvil]

which like

idk it fits the list lol

[golden plover]

Reminder that if you have too much land destruction you're bracket 4 by default

[fallow citrus]

but also like game changers feel like they encompass too much of a range

[golden plover]

I also still don't get why Yuriko is a game changer when they can just eratta commande ninjitsu to work the way it's supposed to

[fallow citrus]

smothering tithe is not on the same page as gaea's cradle

[golden plover]

I guess it's too late now but they could easily just go "Oh yeah you still pay tax on commander ninjitsu"

[trail anvil]

I mean yeah but I get why they're both game changers

[fallow citrus]

I understand it I just don't like it

[copper pecan]

i don't think they want to do a power level errata

[trail anvil]

what I don't get is why crop rotation is on there

[fallow citrus]

I almost feel like you could have looked at some cards like mishra's workshop, cradle, ancient tomb etc and be like

[golden plover]

Tutor

[fallow citrus]

you can't play these unless it's bracket 4 or 5

[trail anvil]

open the armory is a tutor

[golden plover]

For some reason random tutors are game changers

[fallow citrus]

instead of being able to play cradle in my pre-con

[trail anvil]

I need a better argument than that

[fallow citrus]

bad example but you get the idea

[golden plover]

The game changer tutors are completely randomly decided based on vibes

Like I wish I could give you a better argument

But it's literally all vibes based

Gamble is a game changer

[trail anvil]

gamble is an unconditional tutor even with the random discard

[golden plover]

Tergrid being a game changer is hilarious

[fallow citrus]

I like the idea of "game changers are kinda powerful cards that if you have too many your deck is probably broken" and then you have a list like "these cards are definitely broken unless you're playing a high powered pod so you're bracket 4 minimum by playng them" for example

but I don't think there's a right way to do it at the end of the day

[trail anvil]

tergrid is like the poster child of a game changer

[golden plover]

I don't think it deters that one guy at your LGS who pub stomps new players with tergrid because they just won't run the others

But like, Tergrid is such an easy card to deal with

I dunno, I feel like game changers are a good idea

But it literally just feels like they asked 100 random people what cards make them salty and picked all of those

[trail anvil]

I feel like half the point of game changers is to get rid of salty cards

for pods that want it

[copper pecan]

yeah the point isn't that they're too strong, it's that they're not fun for casual players

[trail anvil]

if it was a power thing they'd just be banned

[gritty nest]

Just ban everything ngl

[tardy echo]

Commander players hate everything. Solution? Ban commander

[gritty nest]

This

(I only play commander)

[golden plover]

New bracket system

If a card beats you it's banned

[gritty nest]

Shit basics are banned

[golden plover]

Did you get beat to death with a basic land?

[gritty nest]

Mayhaps

[golden plover]

Then Nissa or whatever gets banned ig

[gritty nest]

Ah just ban both to be safe

Get rid of the enabler and the end piece to make sure no more degenerate combos

[sleek ferry]

The solution is simple, put me in charge of the format

[tardy echo]

Also random question what is oathbreaker

[rigid scarab]

Commander but 60 card

Your commander is a planeswalker and is a partner with any instant/sorcery

[tardy echo]

Still 4 player or no

[rigid scarab]

Still 4 player

[rigid scarab]

Any instant/sorcery in the planeswalker colors

[tardy echo]

Nvm

I was gonna say this sounds hype but nvm

Is there oathbreaker but brawl

[rigid scarab]

Idk

[glad peak]

It’s pretty fun

But needs a lot more fixing

[gritty nest]

Do you guys want to see that meekstones T and green dot?

[glad peak]

sure, but it's hard to tell for sure online

[glad peak]

i can't tell for green dot but T looks right

[sudden lava]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1272400235171282985/1410834299820703825/image.png?ex=68b27555&is=68b123d5&hm=89394fa840ebbbfef30d552f9962dfa8249fe7e1971b0946af588d3bb929d5e5&=&format=webp&quality=lossless&width=435&height=582

Got a free copy of Serah from the person who gave me a free copy of Lightning Army of One

Same person also gave me a Gilgamesh a while back, definitely is naya legends they got extras of

[sudden lava]

Spoiler season debut for spiderman tomorrow

[gritty nest]

https://archidekt.com/decks/14058784 I have been trying to get this deck down to 100 cards and have been stuck around 108-112. Could I get some help with cutting cards please?

[steady onyx]

If i wanna build mono black
massacre girl
massacre girl known killer
braids arisen nightmare

[gritty nest]

I dont plan to use them myself tbh

[fallow citrus]

https://x.com/Eureka22422_MTG/status/1960906748778225868?t=sGJld7uAL36kDt1IjG0lNw&s=19

Michael Reed 🔜 Eternal Weekend NA (@Eureka22422_MTG)

My favorite “Welcome to Legacy” Play.

X · Aug 28, 2025, 3:26 AM

[sleek ferry]

I’ve been playing out of my god damn mind today

Probably some of the best play I’ve seen out of myself

[golden plover]

I played like 3 really good Dimir games earlier myself

Then I hit that temur deck and I just felt like I played awful

That deck is even bigger gambling than mono-G landfall tho lol

[sleek ferry]

I’ve been testing a mardu legendary matters deck

And the amount of synergy this deck has is crazy, I didn’t even notice it until I tested it

Cards like [[Kellan, the far blooded]] have aged really nicely

[lost widget]

No card found for “Kellan, the far blooded”

[sleek ferry]

Just grabbing sheltered by ghosts on demand

[[the seriema]] has also just been great

[lost widget]

https://scryfall.com/card/eoe/35/the-seriema

The Seriema <:mana1:292901508373282827><:manaw:1007102126813610074><:manaw:1007102126813610074>

Legendary Artifact — Spacecraft
When The Seriema enters, search your library for a legendary creature card, reveal it, put it into your hand, then shuffle.
Station (Tap another creature you control: Put charge counters equal to its power on this Spacecraft. Station only as a sorcery. It's an artifact creature at 7+.)
STATION 7+
Flying
Other tapped legendary creatures you control have indestructible.
5/5

[golden plover]

Okay maybe Brawl can be fun

[sleek ferry]

Cope

1v1 commander can never be fun

[glad peak]

you can remove the 1v1 from your message and it'll still be right

[sleek ferry]

Also cope

[glad peak]

yes you are if i'm wrong

[golden plover]

Brawl isn't like great, but I get to strip lock people from the command zone

And that's funny

[glad peak]

what're some of the most fun draft archetypes in the past 10 years?

mh2 rw artifacts, kld rb vehicles, tsm ur storm are some of my favorites

[sudden lava]

2 glitters in one for my pearl ear deck is neat

[twilit canyon]

literally had it all and they freaked it

[copper pecan]

shouldn't have taken the harry potter licensing deal then

[twilit canyon]

or used ai on products

[copper pecan]

i feel like directly funding hate groups is worse than using ai

like

not even close

[stark skiff]

https://bsky.app/profile/bdm.bsky.social/post/3lxkj5c4jpc2q

Brian David-Marshall (Top8Games) (@bdm.bsky.social)

-# ↩ Brian David-Marshall (Top8Games) (@bdm.bsky.social)
I also have a bonus #MTGxSpiderMan preview card which is fittingly from the Bonus Sheet and is a new version of Relentless Assault -- a perfect summary of Spider-Man's everyday life.

I have already booked my #MTGxSpiderMan prerelease for Sept 20th -- a perfect collision of all my obsessions.

Bluesky · Aug 29, 2025, 4:46 PM

Sick art

[twilit canyon]

def doesnt help to kick the hornet's nest over ai and then immediately going into harry potter lol

[copper pecan]

tbh if someone was more upset about the ai thing than about the harry potter thing then they really need to get their priorities straight

[subtle sierra]

what's this about?

[copper pecan]

ultimate guard used ai to extend the art on one of their sleves because they accidentally commissioned it at the wrong aspect ratio

they apologized and said they wouldn't do it again

but then a few days later they took a brand deal with harry potter

[subtle sierra]

[copper pecan]

and people were not willing to put up with them fucking up twice in a row like that

[trail anvil]

LSV could learn a thing or two

[zinc shard]

Spiderman reveals are starting

https://www.twitch.tv/magic

[twilit canyon]

they specifically said "wouldnt do it again" for magic products not that they wouldnt use ai for other products which also rustled some feathers

[past socket]

We”re Junding em out!

[zinc shard]

There's more hybrid cards in this set

Sand creature

[lusty trench]

Ayo electro decent

[trail anvil]

oh hey, ozolith at home

but it does start off with counters so a higher baseline

[trail anvil]

peak commander card, can't wait to use this in green land mill decks

[copper pecan]

obligatory "grixis goblin" joke

[zinc shard]

set was made with "Pick 2 Draft" in mind

Archetypes:

GW: Spider Heroes
WU: Modified
UB: Villains/Connive
RG: Big Creatures
BR: Mayhem

[copper pecan]

they're marketing this as a spiderman set but it's clearly a new york set

[trail anvil]

rhino looks like a limited bomb and a half

vigilance, trample and draw all in one

also I'm glad mayhem is named so generically for future use considering it's just madness with normal timing restrictions

[zinc shard]

bonus sheet time

[trail anvil]

gotta love another heroic intervention reprint

[hidden ermine]

OK yeah it's definitely spiderman pointing at spiderman for the meme as a card

[zinc shard]

'

[past socket]

Electro’s last effect is really funny

Just going out hating

[zinc shard]

The Soul Stone is the only Infinity Stone in this set

[hidden ermine]

Smh not nearly long and confusing enough

[stark skiff]

New secret lair!

[gritty nest]

Got stomped at the lgs, left

Only played 2 games

[fallow citrus]

do.. they not have a name? surely they're not just "spider man india"

[zinc shard]

Pavitr Prabhakar

[hidden ermine]

Perfect flavour

[trail anvil]

libel is a crime

[rigid scarab]

Ok this is actually pretty cool

Not bad formatting either

[rigid scarab]

How good is a Citadel that dies to removal

In the command zone it can be annoying ig but not as annoying as krrik

[stark skiff]

Yea the simplicity is nice. The dates being when the first printing of the card was is nice too.

[tardy echo]

• green goblin
• is 3 non green colors

I want a refund

[ornate cedar]

So, I just saw how much the avatar products are

There goes any desire to buy those cards lol

Arena is all I need

I wonder how long this continues before the shoe drops

[glad peak]

Until it stops making money

[stark skiff]

cant wait to open some collector boxes

[ornate cedar]

Sigh I guess wizards have figured that people that just want to play will deal with Arena, and people that want to collect will have to fork over the money

And then people like Rudy just buy everything and scalp it

[glad peak]

Can’t wait to forego my car payment to buy a booster box

[ornate cedar]

I can’t wait to buy none of it

That’s the result Wizards clearly wants

[stark skiff]

https://archidekt.com/decks/14697129/terra_magical_adept

threw this together. did a few feel out games and its pretty fun. just feel like i need more protection. any suggestions to edit?

[glad peak]

Esper Terra
Looks inside
5 colors

[stark skiff]

got em

[sudden lava]

Except it actually works to the name

Front side is red green

But when she becomes Esper Terra she gets black, blue, and white

[copper pecan]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/948945461597831218/1411441602131394570/FB_IMG_1756584252649.jpg?ex=68b4aaed&is=68b3596d&hm=b153eaa8cafe976460ad24387b03899d6570d03024d9cda795da810b4dcffd0c&=&format=webp&width=930&height=930

[fallow citrus]

I like that you essentially trade in your pictures of spiderman for money

[past socket]

Reminded of some other JK Simmons roles

Like in Whiplash and one of the Command and Conquer titles as the President of the United States

[golden plover]

30% of SGC was on Vivi Cauldron. That number shoots up to 60% top cut

[ornate cedar]

Sigh stop making broken cards WOTC

[sudden lava]

People found a combo for "with great power"

slap it on an indestructible creature

[trail anvil]

that combo is older than the dinosaurs [[pariah]]

[lost widget]

https://scryfall.com/card/cn2/95/pariah

Pariah <:mana2:292901509060886528><:manaw:1007102126813610074>

Enchantment — Aura
Enchant creature
All damage that would be dealt to you is dealt to enchanted creature instead.
"It is not sad," Radiant chided the lesser angel. "It is right. Every society must have its outcasts."

[sudden lava]

always good to have an extra, consistency and all

[sudden lava]

https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/7HJm8SY28BaC9mCl9XLrxvN5pbtjdBG8BWKOMUrP6Lg/%3F1738356679/https/cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/c/f/cffae8d0-7b4e-42ed-8124-24a86b38f490.jpg?format=webp&width=549&height=765

standard legal btw

[golden plover]

Great Power is unplayable in standard

Ketramose is a fraud

You'll be dead to Vivi 5 turns before they get that going

And if you do get it online? Flood Maw GG

[twilit canyon]

theres infinite outs

type of noob trap combo someone plays that explodes vs good cards

[sudden lava]

yeah sadly

[steady onyx]

omg omg its misty

hello misty!!

u play legacy / anyone here play legacy

?

the club at my school is running legacy tourney tonight and I wanna proxy a deck to use

and I wanted some reccomendations

[twilit canyon]

oh its this dipshit again /s

i do not play legacy atm i dont have an lgs near me that has a legacy scene

[steady onyx]

ok

[twilit canyon]

if u are ever in doubt

[steady onyx]

i kinda wanna play sneak attack

it looks fun

just drop emrakul onto field

[twilit canyon]

u can probably jam something simple like painter

[steady onyx]

i can

but like

SNEAK ATTACK boo

m

[twilit canyon]

playing anything with blue is a recipe for wracking your head and failing bc these decks are just not intuitive

[steady onyx]

is painter not blue?

[twilit canyon]

red stompy also works

painter is mono brown/red

[steady onyx]

..

[twilit canyon]

ik some builds play blue

i dont love them

[steady onyx]

ok time to find the list

[twilit canyon]

yeah no i dont like the blue versions

emissary has done a number on artifact lists

but the traditional painter combo is mono red

[steady onyx]

so like this?

[twilit canyon]

yep

[steady onyx]

ok

[twilit canyon]

its a "simple" combo list

[steady onyx]

i also need to buy a painters servant

...

for commander play

so i can build a legacy deck!!

[twilit canyon]

wait they are making u pay for the decks?

not proxy lists?

[steady onyx]

no no no no no

im proxying

im saying I want to play teysa and painters servat is good with her in commander

[twilit canyon]

ah fair

yeah dont pay for a legacy list

[steady onyx]

no that seems stupid

and a waste of money

[twilit canyon]

red trinisphere

is also solid

simple

good deck

[steady onyx]

ok

ill look into a mono red ish deck

i do like painter as a card tho so i kinda wanna play something around him

[twilit canyon]

u basically can never go wrong with a t1 saga -> t2 trinisphere

and then finding a chrome mox to replace saga

its a good way to play

[steady onyx]

hmm ok

my only thing is

i wanna play a deck thats like not super how do i put this into words

like had bad and good mu

is more just generally solid deck I can learn format throuhg

[twilit canyon]

those decks have massive skill gaps in legacy

[steady onyx]

oh

fk

[twilit canyon]

because they are blue

[steady onyx]

is there mystic mine in legacy...

[twilit canyon]

in 90% of scenarios

trinisphere

[steady onyx]

aok

[twilit canyon]

lol

[steady onyx]

lmao

time to play red trinisphere

[twilit canyon]

these decks win off [[pyrogoyf]] nowdays

[lost widget]

https://scryfall.com/card/aa2/12/pyrogoyf

Pyrogoyf <:mana3:292901508771610624><:manar:292901508796645397>

Creature — Lhurgoyf
Pyrogoyf's power is equal to the number of card types among cards in all graveyards and its toughness is equal to that number plus 1.
Whenever this creature or another Lhurgoyf creature you control enters, that creature deals damage equal to its power to any target.
*/1+*

[steady onyx]

wait

thats hilarious

i assume grave is something a lot of decks play with

[twilit canyon]

massively

ik ygo says a lot that the grave is often the second hand

in legacy this is very much the case

[steady onyx]

ok ok

so out of red stompy, red trinis, and red painter

[twilit canyon]

stompy can slot trinisphere

eldrazi stompy too

same deal

its a t2 trinisphere deck

but eldrazi flavored

[steady onyx]

i personally dont like eldrazi would fvour red something

[twilit canyon]

fair enough

[steady onyx]

ooh

did i show u the new stadnard deck i made

[twilit canyon]

yeah stick to the more basic decks outside of blue

[steady onyx]

its simic ouroboid

im really liking it

[twilit canyon]

bc legacy is brutal

for learning it

[steady onyx]

okie

[twilit canyon]

and blue is a large part of it

[steady onyx]

i got inda stomped when I played a standard tournament cause I was missing all the good cards

like into the flood maw, enruding curiosity

but next tournament I will have those and im excited

the deck feels sick to play

i still ngl need to learn keeping hands and sideboarding a bit better

but I think that willl come with jsut more play experience

[twilit canyon]

for standard its weird but sure

[glad peak]

Just play moon or oops

[fallow citrus]

based deck

[glad peak]

Oops is hard to start with but if your competition doesn’t know what they’re doing (and from the sounds of it they don’t) then you’ll stomp

[fallow citrus]

cephalid breakfast too is also a good shout

I have a type of legacy deck I enjoy

[glad peak]

I don’t really like breakfast very much tbh

[twilit canyon]

i am also not a big breakfast fan

even tho ik its solid/good

[steady onyx]

one question about just magic and general that draws to me picking a legacy deck

like here

[glad peak]

Stompy is probably the easiest and most consistent

[fallow citrus]

tbf I haven't played breakfast in a hot minute

[steady onyx]

im torn rn between aggro (stompy) and combo (painter)

im like

[fallow citrus]

aggro will be easier

by an order of magnitudes

[steady onyx]

i want to play combo

but i dont like want to die to one interaction on combo

[glad peak]

I know someone I know played a sideboard plan which was painter with blood moons and trinisphere tho

[steady onyx]

and then deck is uselss

useless

u get me?

[fallow citrus]

is initiative still a thing in legacy

[glad peak]

Not really

[fallow citrus]

ah shame

now that was a deck

[steady onyx]

like i dislike decks where i am going to either resolve combo and win and have fun

[glad peak]

White is pretty funny because you can do the turn 1/2 miracle 5/5

[steady onyx]

or not resolve combo and lsoe because my deck is only centered around that combo

because of that should I just play stompy?

[fallow citrus]

well if you don't like the idea of losing if you jam combo and get answered then play stompy

[glad peak]

Play delver and just outskill your opponents

[steady onyx]

i dont mind getting answered

im more just like

does painter do anything then just resolve the combo

like can I win through other routes?

[glad peak]

Yes, painter has blood moon

[steady onyx]

stompy also has blood moon

:)

[glad peak]

Correct

Play both

[fallow citrus]

caves of chaos adventurer is still legacy legal where is it in my stompy decks

[steady onyx]

smokescreen in painter?

or smt

like do people more expect the combo g1 or the aggro g1

and then side in the other when they side for the first

[glad peak]

Smokescreening is based

[steady onyx]

sounds fun

lets make a list

which first

aggro or painter

[glad peak]

Painter first always

[steady onyx]

ok

[fallow citrus]

could just play reanimator

[steady onyx]

hm does this work

[steady onyx]

that has blue correct?

[glad peak]

And then when they side in anti-painter stuff just all in beeg guys

[steady onyx]

misty said no blue

cause it will hurt my brain

what am i not playing if i take ut combo

obv the grindstone and the painters

hm this may not work

its not like ygo where u have ur small engine u can take out

[fallow citrus]

I don't think smokescreening is real

[steady onyx]

but i cant decide

[fallow citrus]

if you had to do it for stompy you'd take out welder engineer painter grindstone

[glad peak]

It’s not real (unless you do oops then belcher)

But in this case it’s funny

[steady onyx]

ok then

for me who has never played legacy

[fallow citrus]

also I don't think the blue in reanimator is like

[steady onyx]

stompy or painter

[fallow citrus]

difficult

[glad peak]

Brainstorm is always difficult

[steady onyx]

^

and ponder

[fallow citrus]

agree to disagree

[glad peak]

The common truth of “you will always brainstorm wrong”

I love old pro quotes

[fallow citrus]

I think unless we're talking super high level play it doesn't really matter if you play brainstorm wrong

[glad peak]

Idk I play a funny deck whenever I do play legacy nowadays

Tin fins

[steady onyx]

like yeah

i wanna play something funny

but i also want to play something thats simple and like good

so i can learn the format

[glad peak]

Tin fins is simple and funny but not great

[steady onyx]

with a deck on the level of everything else

[fallow citrus]

just goldfish some hands with decks you want to try and see if you might enjoy the play patterns

[steady onyx]

im just watching some gameplay ngl

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AHxeBfTuLa0&ab_channel=ThrabenU

[glad peak]

Tin fins is just turbo gris then pay a ton of life then somehow get children of koilos to come back over and over and over again

[fallow citrus]

the mystic forge deck interests me

[steady onyx]

ok i thinkive decided painter

but i see 2 lists

which one

https://www.mtggoldfish.com/deck/7314025#paper

the second seems more midrangey and the first seems more comb cause it has like led and shit

[fallow citrus]

I don't believe in cauldron in that deck tbh

[steady onyx]

ok\

[fallow citrus]

but i havent seen it in action so idk

[steady onyx]

ill try non agatha

[atomic harness]

Whoa

[copper pecan]

colorless removal spell

[subtle sierra]

this is a weird abrade...

[glad peak]

Pretty cool abrade

Hopefully it’s a cycle

[glad peak]

i love cradle control but damn is it hard

you just give up game 1 if you had a fairly slow hand vs combo

[atomic harness]

Thank you son

[fast tide]

Some of the cards for Bello have started trickling in

And Bello got shipped yesterday

[atomic harness]

Good job, Mr ducky

[atomic harness]

My friend has been spamming leylines for the deck

The pregame actions are crazy

[fast tide]

Oh god Bello can throw them all too

Oh these are wild

[broken fjord]

What's the dirtiest you've ever done anyone in a game of mtg?

[sudden lava]

You can probably guess what I searched with 2 opponents taking the tempt

[broken fjord]

I opened Devastating Mastery vs a Reaper King player. Let them use their entire hand to ramp him out. Turn 3, which was pretty fast. Too bad Devastating Mastery has an alternate cost that lets me cast it for 4. Punted him out of the game.

Runner up is commandeering a turn 1 sol ring from an Arcanus player.

[trail anvil]

that's funny

[glad peak]

Blow up an affinity player’s entire board after they vomitted their hand + commander turn 1 with crypt+ring+vault and so on by vandelblasting them on my turn 1

[stark skiff]

Web of Life and Destiny
Enchantment
Convoke
At the beginning of combat on your turn look at the top 5 cards of your library. You can put a creature among them onto the battlefield. Put the rest on the bottom in a random order.

[subtle sierra]

Aren't both of these decent?

[glad peak]

We already got a powercrept (not by much) dragon sniper?

[subtle sierra]

Well it's a sidegrade

Sniper has vigilance

[glad peak]

Oh right forgot it had that too

Wow dragon sniper is stupid

[fallow citrus]

shame convoke isn't a deck rn

[atomic harness]

Red de La Vida y El Destino

[glad peak]

Is it red or not

[stark skiff]

Beast Within

[ornate cedar]

I like the flavor on this

[gritty nest]

i got an ad for arena with the tagline saying "standard is the best its ever been!"

[copper pecan]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/448915165153460245/1412121065357836288/c_latmxOZeON.webp?ex=68b723b9&is=68b5d239&hm=1e8f9fb74329b786cbbf7cc563718495727492184cf3fcb54248456e0ff28e2b&=&format=webp&width=670&height=930

infinity stones are "terminus stones" in uw apparently

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/448915165153460245/1412121061784293396/c_X5kxd3gJDe.webp?ex=68b723b9&is=68b5d239&hm=3d6ae64a04c9f60a6f3581d0859a8c63af4c13962c5112efa586d58e8eedce5e&=&format=webp&width=670&height=930

also here's the uw version of spider punk

[last glen]

doesn't look very heroic....

[steady onyx]

@twilit canyon u able to help lil ol me with my standard deck or r u busy

ur just like rly good at standard

and idk what to do

https://moxfield.com/decks/Sm9qVa0PwEWnP_YZHIIbqQ

this is it

im just confused mainly about like my sideboard

i would love vivien
but idk about the rest
and like should I keep schooners in main?

oh also azure beastbinder and scrapshooter I want to know if I should run those or not

[twilit canyon]

not much to do rn bc the meta is centralized around vivi cauldron

sb to beat that deck

[steady onyx]

what is sb for that deck

just like artifact removal

for the cauldron?

[twilit canyon]

theres no real secret bc even if u do so ug has no real tools to deal with their deck

[steady onyx]

ig

[glad peak]

In fact main board to beat the deck

[sleek ferry]

You just don’t want to be in simic right now, you don’t have ways to beat multiple threats

[trail anvil]

does simic even have an exile pongify effect in standard rn

[stark skiff]

https://preview.redd.it/spm-agent-venom-exclusive-scg-preview-v0-hoxbt2qr1lmf1.png?width=700&format=png&auto=webp&s=61f9be0eb938426ca9e45fc5d63210c8b18b3f6b

[lusty trench]

They did the thing

[glad peak]

Of course

[sudden lava]

the fact you both posted it makes it funnier

[past socket]

But which is the real imposter syndrome?

[hidden ermine]

The art feels too zoomed in

[trail anvil]

neither, if you're on arena

[zinc shard]

To complete the trifecta

[past socket]

Certainly some pictures of Spider-Man

[steady onyx]

what is best way to build rdw in current standard

is it like burn

or is there still a way to play pump

or is that no more

this is my current list

[sleek ferry]

Refer to the list that won yesterday

https://x.com/playmtg/status/1962292816295411798?s=46&t=DdUsqNPs-c3IFDRYOhiq8A

PlayMTG (@PlayMTG)

We have a winner at #SpotlightPlanetary! After an incredible run that saw him post an 11-2 record against Izzet Cauldron with his dialed-in Red Aggro list, Brennan Roy is your champion of Magic Spotlight: Planetary Rotation!

X · Aug 31, 2025, 11:13 PM

[gritty nest]

Let it be known I was right

[glad peak]

Let it be known I was light

[steady onyx]

too many rares

[sleek ferry]

You got to do what you got to do

Nova hellkite is a hell of a card

It’s a guaranteed 8-10 damage in the air

[zinc shard]

Goblin's Shadow

1R

Enchantment

At the beginning of your first main phase, discard a card. If you do, draw a card.

Whenever you play a land or cast a spell from anywhere other than your hand, this enchantment deals 1 damage to each opponent.

[trail anvil]

ah yes another card that goes insane with ob nix

and pairs well with prosper of course

[sudden lava]

Paradox without the paradox

[atomic harness]

Hallo, need an mtg ruling question answered

[fallow citrus]

what ruling

[atomic harness]

[[Hashaton]] triggered ability
Does it care if the creature it's trying to make a copy token of goes away somewhere?

[lost widget]

https://scryfall.com/card/drc/1/hashaton-scarabs-fist

Hashaton, Scarab's Fist <:manaw:1007102126813610074><:manab:292901508872273920>

Legendary Creature — Zombie Wizard
Whenever you discard a creature card, you may pay . If you do, create a tapped token that's a copy of that card, except it's a 4/4 black Zombie.
"I served the Scarab in an age long past, in another form, under another name. No matter their visage, I serve."
1/3

[atomic harness]

say I pitch an archon and pay 3
Opp rakdos charms me or something

or will I still get my 4/4 tapped archon of cruelty regardless

[past socket]

Love mail day

[gilded glade]

There's two parts to this:

• Does a spell/ability target, as in, can it fizzle if the card goes away
• What information is used

The first part is only relevant if you use something like Reanimate that targets a creature for the spell. So as opposed to yugioh, a spell/ability only really "fizzles" (doesn't resolve) if all the targets of a spell/ability are gone. But the word target is required to be used in the oracle (database) text.

For the second part, MTG uses "last known information", meaning as opposed to yugioh, MTG checks the last place it was visible/known, and uses that information to resolve an ability.

[atomic harness]

In this case, last known information so I still get my zombie archon token?

[gilded glade]

Correct

[atomic harness]

Danke

[gilded glade]