#Magic the Gathering
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do any of you play Pauper EDH?
I have
im trying to cut some cards from a pauper deck and stumped on the worst of the best to remove
Depends on deck
[[Rydia, Summoner of Mist]]
Legendary Creature — Human Shaman
Landfall — Whenever a land you control enters, you may discard a card. If you do, draw a card.
Summon —
,
: Return target Saga card with mana value X from your graveyard to the battlefield with a finality counter on it. It gains haste until end of turn. Activate only as a sorcery.
1/2
theres only 4 legal sagas in the entire game lol, and im running all 4
not that im aware of, its just gruul landfall
i dont play Pauper EDH enough to know common only strats
it is not
May want to remove some of the protection or pump
I don’t really like this game plan tbh
too inconsistent you think?
iirc kediss burns everyone when a commander smacks and the og malcolm that draws?
thats nice
And then I turn a pinger into a pirate, slap a curiousity effect on it, then draw a bunch
But the reason why I don’t like landfall is because too few effects and way too fast of a format
im not trying to play at peak performance, at least to my knowledge
that i didnt know
is commander damage lower too?
also i figure this deck will do a lot better if i swapped rydia out for tannuk, cut all the sagas and just load up on gruul midrange shenanigans
Commander damage I think is the same?
i see, alright
Tannuk would likely do better but same problems
Mainly because drawing cards is so good
thats fair
snake umbra on him would put in more work than snake umbra on something in the 99
True but it’s also discard then draw which is a lot worse than the other way around
yeah 100%
Lost g1, won g2 and g3. I feel like Kona builds are just frankly too greedy
Bats and intimidation tactics have the deck just top decking
Playing vs better players has made one thing abundantly clear, outside of vs mono red, I should never be shotgunning far fortune
for people who've cubed, what are your favorite sets to cube?
neo and dominaria are both pretty good
the remastered cubes? haven't really looked into remastered retail sets
no the set that is just titled "dominaria"
oh nah i was talking about cubes, not retail
Good god
Trying to argue with someone rn who’s saying that
Competitive MTG was never a real thing
And no one actually cared about it
lmao wut
true it stopped being a big priority but that's because they're still working super slowly after covid
but also commander
The argument is
Commander was naturally going to take over competitive
Because competitive was fundamentally flawed

Commander may have naturally taken over, true, but that’s just because the vast majority of players are casual in any game
Especially as a game is growing
The main issue I have with commander though is that people tend to stick there and never leave their hole to try anything else and there really isn’t anything in between commander and competitive at the moment
I have tried other formats, funny enough. Not my cup of tea. In fact, I started by playing standard structure decks with my brother. 1v1 just kinda sucks, IMO.
The intro and event deck lines were pretty shit gameplay wise ngl
You should play cube, very fun social format 
More people = more fun and there’s less salt 
I might
What do you play in modern?
But also no long talks about power level which the community is infamously bad with even with a good group
Despite my dislike of 1v1, I do think the shift towards commander being a big focus has been a negative.
Not a fan of the constant introduction of powerful cards
I’m fine with commander mostly but hate how design shifted to cater specifically to commander
Especially since now it feels like every set is split in half with standard cards and commander cards
I mean I don’t mind this at all
It used to be 90% unusable garbage vs 10% actual usable cards
Now it’s probably closer to 75% unusable garbage vs 25% usable cards
Where it gets bad is when you’re drafting and the rare you get is a commander card that has nothing to do with any draft archetype
But trash mythics have been a thing since forever
Yeah that’s nothing new, they just replaced those trash mythics with commander mythics
Which again, you rather have that if opening sealed. I do think play boosters are ass though, and I miss the draft/set split
I just realized we’re going to have a generation of drafters who’ve never played with 15 card boosters
I feel like the solution might have honestly been to make set boosters the standard, instead of combining the two, also the special guest list is just a broken thing
The list was at least 95% garbage
I like Dimir frogtide 
The kaito obm one w/o oculus
I also think the mocs winning grixis reanimator list is p cool. But that's bc I love [[archon of cruelty]]
I think modern’s issue moving forward
Is if we don’t have any straight to modern sets
Standard will always be exciting and new, and modern will go through big lulls
Sigh, mh4 it is
Tbh I’m fine with that
Format’s been moving way too fast as is but also not fast enough
Changes to bans rarely happens but whenever a straight to modern set comes the power level spikes which sucks for the rest of the format
Would much prefer the old days of maybe 1-5 cards in any standard set is modern playable
The MH sets did increase interactivity though so that’s a good shift
I like emperor of bones a lot mr mudkip
[[exdeath]]
Legendary Creature — Spirit Warlock
When Exdeath enters, you gain 3 life.
At the beginning of your end step, if there are six or more permanent cards in your graveyard, transform Exdeath.
"Mwa-hahahaha! Witness what befalls those who stand against me!"
3/3
Neo Exdeath, Dimension's End
Legendary Creature — Spirit Avatar
Trample
Neo Exdeath's power is equal to the number of permanent cards in your graveyard.
"All memories... dimensions... existence... All that is shall be returned to nothing."
*/3
[[emperor of bones]]
Creature — Skeleton Noble
At the beginning of combat on your turn, exile up to one target card from a graveyard.

: Adapt 2.
Whenever one or more +1/+1 counters are put on this creature, put a creature card exiled with this creature onto the battlefield under your control with a finality counter on it. It gains haste. Sacrifice it at the beginning of the next end step.
2/2
Emperor looks like a very fun cube card but I like a lot of mh designs for limited
I think I added this into my bw cube
Surprising amount of depth and archetypes in that cube ngl
any fun non vivi cauldron decks? i made 3 a while ago for a deck thats rotated out and kinda wanna use them in smt
I've seen it used with roots given how much milling you're doing. probably not the optimal build but it synergizes pretty well
I think most roots builds play it now
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We're getting Arena Anthologies to put more cards on Arena. They'll be legal in Historic, Timeless, and Brawl (Mox Opal is banned in Historic)
Anthology 1
Anthology 2
They release tomorrow
holy
they may as well release modern next with this card list god damn
wrenn, mopal, grist, the artifact lands
again may as well give us modern and legacy now
Im surprised Eternal Witness wasnt already on Arena
i cant wait to strip mine someone and then wrenn and strip mine them again
im going to create an environment so toxic
That fucking eoe card
[[icetill explorer]]
Why did they split the anthology into 2 smh
True, it's brawl anthology and other cards Anthology
But like, they really could've just been one
the other anthology is goated though
Also... Strip mine gonna be the first timeless ban?
It's restricted in legacy because of W6
Part of the fun in timeless is that everything is broken
i watched someone's life drain from their eyes real time after i strip mine looped them for 20 turns in a row
Would be weird if it gets to live lol
i didnt win the game
i intentionally didnt attack
i just locked them out and kept them captive until they conceded
Might get restricted in timeless then
this is peak magic
They could restrict it in timeless
They do that there, right?
Yeah maybe
Only like 2 cards I think
but they shouldnt
Tutor and trickery question mark
we're getting force of negation soon
Oh channel is also restricted
Just had a 30 minute g2 against a Vivi Cauldron player who started roping after losing G1. Arena's turn timer is actually way too fucking long
Been thinking on what dumb combo to use for my Shadow deck. Wanted something silly but not too powerful. Settled on Cursed Recording, Manifold Key and Worst Fears. 3 total copies of Worst Fears protected by split second.
grist on arena let's fuckin goooo
and the rest of the artifact lands and fuckin signets and talismans, it's about time
ignoble without the noble equivalent is kinda weird
damn specifically excluding my girl 
lol
I love strip mine 

Grist is nice
Historic doesnt have mh3 cards right
It does
All of them?
(He’s talking about psychic frog)
Yeah I just checked, psychic frog is fully legal in historic
And unchanged
I was reading some posts and it's apparently better in timeless than historic
But that was 7months ago
You need to just play standard and play the queen [[haliya]]
Multiple cards match “haliya”, can you be more specific?
[[haliya guided by light]]
Legendary Creature — Human Soldier
Whenever Haliya or another creature or artifact you control enters, you gain 1 life.
At the beginning of your end step, draw a card if you've gained 3 or more life this turn.
Warp
(You may cast this card from your hand for its warp cost. Exile this creature at the beginning of the next end step, then you may cast it from exile on a later turn.)
3/3
historic and timeless
frog's good in historic, but definitely stronger in timeless, and getting stronger with fon on the horizon
frog in timeless also has had mana drain and fetches
it got strip mine and chrome mox
your opponent doesnt get to play magic on some t1 frog strip mine turbo openers on the play
Weirdest extra turn combo
(By rotating which opponent you crack it on between the player before and the player after you, the third opponent just straight up doesn't get to play their turn)
That’s pretty hilarious
Just realised they got shadows quote wrong on the airshoes
"If the world chooses to become my enemy, I will fight like I always have!"
They mightve used a more direct translation of the Japanese original
Has a different tone though:
"Turns against me" - inevitable, expected.
"Chooses to become my enemy" - foolish mistake, not expected but futile.
lol that dig at yugioh at the beginning was funny
@atomic harness funny frog gaming
im glad to see that even in historic, you can ruin someone's day with the frog
I feel sorry for anyone who buys aa1 in the store
why? if you have the spare gems, its not the worst
you'd probably be better off buying 4 mythic wildcards with money
(its me, i have way more than enough spare gems)
everything is uncommons and most of this is for brawl lol
talismans will see play in historic a fair bit more than ppl expect
if you have gems for days then power to you ig
and swords are good to have for sfm/cloud
uncommon wildcards are still abundant as hell tho
it isnt the best overall value but
if u can spare them, sure
yeah lol but again, if u can spare the gems
bought it to prove a point just now smh
I'm surprised you can spare the gems more than the wildcards lol
draftinggggg
i actually spend more time drafting than constructed on arena
i've spent down on cosmetics + the anthologies + the 20 pack alchemy set and im still at 9k gems
I wish I was into drafting, cause arena was built for drafters 
how feasible is going infinite in standard events or something
mmm i'd say its a decent ev
but
the issue is that constructed events can vary in quality a lot in terms of gameplay
especially with this current format in standard
i think its just not worth
it wouldnt be outright bad but it would also wouldnt be great
and imo, fun > infinite or rewards and whatnot
First time getting to try out this bad boy with the upgrades I made
i had a stupid idea using my old pioneer deck
[[possibility storm]] + [[drannith magistrate]] is a funny combo 
Enchantment
Whenever a player casts a spell from their hand, that player exiles it, then exiles cards from the top of their library until they exile a card that shares a card type with it. That player may cast that card without paying its mana cost. Then they put all cards exiled with this enchantment on the bottom of their library in a random order.
are there any mtga braawl decks build arouind this
this card looks super suepr fun
and i wanna use it
i have like no wildcards but idk kinda wanna try to make A brawl deck
its either this or simic landfall methinks
idk about build-around but it's a decent reanimator target for reanimator decks
simic landfall is pretty cheap to build too, tatyova is an uncommon wildcard and there are a ton of land ramping cards that you can just use for whatever big simic payoff
hmmmmm ok
ill look into that
if i could craft 1 mythic for simic landfall
for bral
wl
which would be best?
what are your current simic mythics
mana drain is the boring answer because it literally causes auto-scoops, or time warp/temporal manipulation
brawl
ok
standard brawl is easiest to craft for if you wanna start on that though
this was filtering by blue and green?
i dont have many
oh wait im only filtered to commander rn
sec
sry for image spam but this is all of them
my old old old first ever mtga deck was like a standard koma landfall deck so I have a couple methinks...
yeah you have some decent payoffs
you could probably find more in rare and uncommon too
tireless provisioner is an uncommon for example
ok so then mana drain?
sure that's fine
she's easiest to build around. there are other commanders but she just synergizes with anything land related
ok
ill start wiht her
deckbuilding is hard ngl
there are like 2 billlion cards lmao
look up all the 2 mana sorceries that put a land from your library onto the battlefield
Sigh they banned the hype simic cards
then growth spiral and planar genesis do that but at instant speed
Is azusa legal in brawl
yeah she's one of the most prominent commanders rn cause people like strip mine locking people lol
and what's better than one strip mine a turn? that's right, 3 a turn
No card found for “azusa wandering”
but of course, now it's 4 at that point lol
whats the distribution i want
You need icetill to make it infinite
of like payoff/ramp/ect
your ramp is your payoff 
tbh you can play fast and loose with it, I don't imagine the matchmaker is gonna pair you with some crazy decks or whatever if you aren't running optimal stuff
Tatyova solves the issue of ramping into nothing because she benefits you even when you ramp with an empty top curve
[[tatyova benthic druid]]
[[doppelgang]]
yeah basically
Can’t recommend using that as a wincon 
it's brawl, it's fine
the most optimal wincon is probably chaining extra turn spells but it's fine lol, that's wildcard heavy
True but why that when you can just slam big thing that don’t need board 
that is an instant board too lol
Only if your opponent has something (assuming you lost everything)
Doppelgang does have a higher ceiling though if you manage to stick multiple things/your opponent has a board and you have 8/11/14 mana 
Wouldn’t play it for 5 because that just seems bad
Annul? Negate? Surely there’s better choices in arena 
I can’t remember [[bonnie pall]] but I remember being unimpressed
No card found for “bonnie pall”
[[bonny pall]]
Legendary Creature — Giant Scout
Reach
When Bonny Pall enters, create Beau, a legendary blue Ox creature token with "Beau's power and toughness are each equal to the number of lands you control."
Whenever you attack, draw a card, then you may put a land card from your hand or graveyard onto the battlefield.
6/5
she's also fine at this stage
i have bad collection
god im getting rolled by decks that are just so muhc faster
i think i nee dmore lands
you should craft the mdfcs from mh3, they're uncommons
Brawl not a good format to start with
i mean i hvae multiple standard decks and been playing standard for a while
just wanted to try smt diff
sink into stupor is a great card in general
What dimir background commander pairing should I do for a deck?
The way people talk about commander you would think it’s brawl

bro
ok brawl just dosent feel playable idk
ive played like 10 games
felt like i never had a chance in any
Broad is crazy
is this format legit just for people with mega mega mega big resouces
and like collections
because i swear every person I play against I feel their entire deck is rare/mythic
What format?
brawl
idk
its mainly just bad deck
cause the deck feels so clunky, but still it feels like the entry level to brawl is super super super high
maybe im wrong tho
idk
I’ve never touched arena so I can’t help
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did u ask permission to post this
Oh I don’t mean like that I mean it’s like really hard to start in brawl
I think as an actual format it’s like. Fine
It’s a weird intermediary of like broken stuff but not actual fun stuff
I thought of all the nadu formats the brawl version was the most enjoyable 
And the like 2 days lutri existed in that format was kinda cool
I’ll buy the slabbed cards for $2 each
Slabbed is actually a fucking waste
The wanderer I’ll do 50 cents because it looks faker than a kardashian
Seriously though, have you tried the marketplace already?
A little here and there
I only give you shit because I don’t think buying selling happens here
And because we’re both in the marketplace discord
Well I was just gauging interest
Fair enough
Wasn’t really aware that it was a thing but if it makes you feel any better I have more positive feedback than most tbh
Send people invoices and everything and usually spot the G&S fee
read rule 5
the issue isnt reliability
i was just asking if u had asked another mod and had gotten the ok
Ah I see
Seems weird though that’s like kneecapping yourself if you don’t just have selling options for all TCGs in some way and restrictions on some and not all
Tbh cedh stuff is largely not for the cedh community as they’ll just proxy
Pretty cool collector item for wanderer though
This isn't a trading server
We don't have the capacity to police everything
Ez clap
Welp, we're hitting main decked annul in events this week. That's always a good sign
Told you annul was good @glad peak
[[annul]]
There’s too many weirdo counterspells to remember sigh
i agree with this
i have a question tho
what is worth to craft with mythics
like i wanna put this dimir midrange deck together
and i know like I am missing a lot of rares and stuff
but would crafting like 2 kaito and i have 2 curisity crafting the 1 cecil and the siren and the 4 drowner then replacing the rest be worth it?
and then like what could I replace the 1 curiosity the 3 saboteur the 2 tidebender and the other 2 kaito with?
or is 1 tidebender more important then 1 dark knigh
knight
Been playing a lot of raise the past lately since it largely ignores the Vivi gameplan. [[Syr Vondam]] is kinda cracked
Multiple cards match “Syr Vondam”, can you be more specific?
[[Syr Vondam, Sunstall]]
No card found for “Syr Vondam, Sunstall”
[[Syr Vondam, Sunstar]]
It's like if Amalia was actually a good card
Syr Vondam is the best card in the deck
I've been saying this
Unironically. Card is so good
Maining 3 and boarding the 4th for shit like ketramose
my goat [[timeline culler]]
the only reason i build the deck
such a cool card
We don't even run culler lol
This is what I'm on
Note the side is probably a bit overkill but it's sometimes needed
This isn't #1020096234968596531 
(i have no idea if sun stall is a thing)
sigh building a commander deck doesn't feel right
and this list feels bad but I can't put a finger on why
not playing obviously good cards like mopal because I'm not buying a mopal for commander
probably cause it's Breya would be my guess
mayhaps
I just don't really like many of the artifact commanders
and playing noctis without being able to do like the mox diamond loops feels a bit shit
Breya’s good tho 
maybe it doesnt feel as good because my instant/sorcery count is scuffed
Good but boring/overused sadly
Not sure about overused but definitely boring in most builds
I've definitely done the boring thing for it
[[breya etherium shaper]]
I like [[osgir the reconstructor]] for my artifact decks personally
might try and look at [[sami, wildcat captain]] too for the affinity aspect
Tbh KCI/eggs has got to be the most fun thing you can do with artifacts
Totally different angle than Beeg guy hit
Too bad it’s one of those decks that no one actually wants to play against
I get why but it is fun
I think I like all boring playstyles though because I'm a landfall andy too
Maybe you’re just a magic purist
Is your favorite color combination jund?
That’s usually a clear sign of a magic purist
What is gladiator format?
have u tried urza
the esper one
hes such a fun artifact commander personally
maybe u might not like him but idk hes cool
[[urza, chief artificer]]?
Legendary Creature — Human Artificer
Affinity for artifact creatures (This spell costs
less to cast for each artifact creature you control.)
Artifact creatures you control have menace.
At the beginning of your end step, create a 0/0 colorless Construct artifact creature token with "This token gets +1/+1 for each artifact you control."
4/5
Unofficial format made by the guys at loading ready run which is 100 card (I think) singleton made of any cards on arena, basically a format they made which is canlander but for arena
okay after looking into sami more
the idea of just being able to drop some glup shitto eldrazi for like 2 mana is funny to me
also giving everything affinity makes some other funny loops
I would probably like Sami more if he wasn’t 6 mana
that's why you run them with a metric fuckton of mana rocks
that effect would be insane if it wasnt 6 mana lmao
you probably don't play them in 60 card formats though lol
yeah but I'm not intending to play like suuper high power mtg
I say with 2 easy infinites in my deck
Infinites are just a thing that happens naturally, especially in a deck like Sami
But, the table is kinda encourage to remove him before you get a turn back tbf
So that’s the main issue I’m looking at fun wise
this is true
depends how many artifacts you have when you do play sami though
because if you have more than 6 from stuff like treasures etc
you might be able to just drop a glup shitto down
but yeah I like the idea, may not be great in execution
ofc you can play the medallions to make sami 4 cost but then you're having to draw specific hands to make the card better
what're you trying to do with them?
Because yeah both are really nice
keep them as is, or strip them for parts, or upgrade?
how high are you looking to upgrade
Probably not that high and I play pretty casual
the lands one is just generic land sac and extra lands
and bringing back as many lands as you can
I think both are solid, I prefer the land ones though
Seed broodship or whatever is called is just a better version of most green cards at its cost
Can I feasibly make a.. kind of spaceship ass deck with counter intelligence because inspirit looks really fucking cool

but inspirit is pretty slow
If you wanted to make a spaceship deck you probably have to grab the 5 color spaceship from the main set no?
especially for a combo heavy mechanic like charge counters
Some of the space ships have been solid adds to some of my casual decks
Like the fake ass Kona
Reminds me of being unsure of wanting to go for a combo Tekuthal or control Tekuthal with Planeswalkers
As an attempt of doing mono blue
if doubler than go for combo is the rule of thumb 
The wrath of the funny squid combo
👀
Always has been 
See I avoid this issue entirely by just not buying UB sets
The perks of being an EDH player
Funny enough commander players have been the most gung ho about never using proxies
Other than cedh of course
Other than events people in Modern and legacy don’t really care and standard I think shifted to that
lol bought this Secret Lair just cause I really like the artwork and got a Seven Dwarves 
@atomic harness @sleek ferry
Not bad
tbh theres a lot of shit that needs to be banned in commander
we've got number 8
Damn apparently people are eating OP alive in the comments
All because he used the word "imperative"
Yeah
"I'm not saying you NEED to proxy"
"I'm just saying it's really really really important that you proxy"
Like your stance is your stance but brother that's the same thing
I don’t see why it’s important to proxy but it’s a very smart idea to do so
Financially at least
Thank you, Mr. Mudkip.
Sincerely, Mr. Moomin
Thank you, Mr. Moomin.
Sincerely, Mr. Mudkip
Yeah OPs point was to take a stand against scalpers
And proxying was the only viable method they found ig
Tbh I never liked wizard’s whole thing about “this product is not for you” and then deciding to push those “not for you” products into more areas people play in
It made sense in commander where you just don’t play them but every other format if they’re good and you’re playing a deck with them then you kinda have to play them
Commander Party at my locals today, gonna bring Naya Tifa and Pearl-Ear
There's a 2 Headed Giant Commander session at my locals. Never played it or looked into it. What commander works best for this format?
Oh 2 headed giant’s fun
Don’t play things that rely on having more opponents (most Malcolm decks, Vivi, tergrid, etc) and focus on things that can get more value if you can target 2 people
Like [[scheming symmetry]] becomes premium
It plays out a lot more like 1v1 where you know what targets to hit
oh makes sense. its why someone said theyre gonna play yshtola lol
Likely the best deck combo is a min blue black control deck with a low investment combo and a min black stax deck that can reliably figure out which angle to shut down (aka needs to be a really good player)
Drannith is unreasonably good here
I actually don’t remember the wording on [[cyclonic rift]]
But yeah you can really delve into the two headed giant potential best decks but you’re likely going to hear similar findings of black being one of the best due to scheming
so do i!
especially when it does jack shit vs me
the craziest part
i played 2 matches today
both had ppl keeping/siding authority into a slow control deck

I’ve been spamming nothing but bo3 lately and ran into 0 mini green in like 30 matches, queue up for bo1 and get 3 straight mono green matches 
Which makes no sense to me, literally none
our holy format will not be defiled by proxies...
Idt this is true, most people are fine proxies. You do get players such as myself though that doesn’t really like proxying and prefers owning the cards
sure most people are fine with proxies but the most pushback i've gotten regarding proxies has to be commander players compared to literally anyone else
Is the wotc thing on the right something they actually said?
Yep
They said they were only going to do emergency bans on “what deserves it” and quoted the felidar ban iirc
Otherwise bans will follow the RC timeline
Also, the Emergency Ban also has a schedule I saw somebody say
iirc, earliest they could e ban was like october
It's very strange to see such a conservative ban philosophy. It looks like it only creates negative sentiment. I'd get it if MTG's card pool was smaller and it was a younger game. But design has changed so much over the years and cards do keep getting stronger. I'm not sure of the benefits of sticking to their guns at this point, especially since they have made multiple goofs over the past couple years.
I imagine part of it is related to collector confidence in prices. The more likely a card is to be banned in its relevant formats, the more likely your cards can lose value suddenly and with little warning (be it when a surprise ban happens, or when Wizards announces they're considering banning a card).
yep a lot of it will have to do with market confidence as well as RC season competitive benefit
yes, the meta is not healthy right now and they may acknowledge that, but the point is that people usually expect one season to have 1 banlist at the end of the season and practice accordingly, it's a feelsbad when competitive players spent tons of hours practicing a deck/matchup and suddenly it's gone
crazy that GW actually did an "emergency" points change in 40k but wotc still just don't care
looking at my old decks in moxfield
and now I have the landfall brainworm in my head from when I played tatyova turns
Thinking if I should add a professor onyx + fury storm combo for my Shadow deck. It's expensive, but also completely uninteractable. Might make my playgroup miffed.
who's the commander?
Shadow. So it's going to have split second.
Fury Storm's interaction with that is so funny.
oh you mean literally shadow 
i mean, you just do a couple damage, maybe a decent chunk
Cast anything, hold priority, cast Fury Storm with split second.
Target Fury Storm with the copy.
Fury Storm copies itself endlessly
cus the meta is honestly p diverse in standard outside of vivi
I'm intentionally making it like that
yeah, that shouldn't make anyone angry
idt they wanna take too much action for tournament standard atm
The other combo is Manifold Key and Cursed Recording plus Worst Fears.
This shit is jank
this onyx combo requires way WAAAAY too much setup and tons of mana on the combo turn
It's still a game ending combo with only 2 cards plus my commander needed. I've been chewed out for worse.
if you have minimum 10 mana while having to have had cast shadow earlier and made a treasure and another card (or i guess technically you can do it on opponent's instants) on top of that, you deserve to win
I agree
at least it isn't the chain of smog combo 
That one can be stopped, though. New copy doesn't have protection. I do have CoS. Just trying to theme my combos.
The meta being diverse outside of a deck taking up 55% of the meta is the perfect reason to do an e-ban lol
If the rest of the format is good and there's one problem deck then hit the problem deck
But for some reason we don't have a window until end of November and even then they'll just hit cauldron and call it a day
sure but in terms of raw power it's just much much better than what was suggested and if they're ok with CoS then they should most definitely be fine with the one you proposed
Oh, for sure.
especially since if you also have to play shadow on the same turn to make sure he doesn't just die on the turn rotation
I know this combo is bad, but it having split second might make people upset.
They got mad when I made my Blightsteel play.
Which was Scroll of Fate manifesting a face down blightsteel. Cast my commander, The Master Formed Anew, which now IS Blightsteel. And waiting a turn to attack to kill one person.
A real rube goldberg machine to threaten one person at a time.
The Master Formed Anew is a sick commander. It's just Dimir Secret Commander.
If you ever wanted any nonlegendary creature in dimir to be your commander, then this is the guy.
Commander Party was fun
Idk what I'll put the promo palladium myr into, but very much enjoyed it
I kinda want to try building [[isu, the abominable]] again
Legendary Snow Creature — Yeti
You may look at the top card of your library any time.
You may play snow lands and cast snow spells from the top of your library.
Whenever another snow permanent you control enters, you may pay
,
, or
. If you do, put a +1/+1 counter on Isu.
5/5
Seems like a chill playstyle
That joke was pretty cold Kuri
Truly a frosty reception to my puns
Can’t help that I’m snowed in with this humor
Okay @sleek ferry and @atomic harness weren’t impressed. I hope these pickups gains me back their approval
That is a cool Gilded Lotus
Good job
im surprised how little variants it has tbh
Im p impressed 
Oh theyre just single buys.
Still nice
Jesus
New record
Opponent scooped but I played out the turn
384 scute swarms, 25/25 hydra broodmother with 18 18/18 babies
Final Revelation is ridiculous

Ya know, I just realized if Cauldron gets the ban instead of Vivi, that deck can just slot in [[Marvin, Murderous Mimic]] to do similar things
Legendary Artifact Creature — Toy
Marvin has all activated abilities of creatures you control that don't have the same name as this creature.
In a moment of bloodthirsty whimsy, a razorkin once picked up a ventriloquist's puppet and used it to terrorize a survivor. Now it hunts on its own, with no one pulling its strings.
2/2
Like obviously the list changes if that happens
But Marvin can do a good second Vivi impression and starts with 2 mana
Hows bashaton as a commander? @glad peak both in C and in lower brackets 
I like Hashaton a lot as a Cedh commander

The Nutshell
This is a control deck, aiming to make it to the mid-game by any means necessary. Unlike Tivit and other Esper decks, Hashaton is simply much faster and more efficient when attempting to win and control the board. Just to reiterate, this deck is explosive and can win nearly out of no...
The ideal wins are either Thoracle lines, outvaluing them, or the sharuum line
Apparently theres a line with LED hashaton thoracle and leveller but im not sure how good that is
the guide I saw was focused a lot on doing things on end step
Pretty similar to what I'm actually playing now (the moxfield list is out of date but Im lazy)
Yeah, Hashaton can win at split second
Oh yeah he said to use angel's grace first then do your stuff (and pray theres no stifle/trickbind but those are pretty rare either way no)

even if they activate mana abilities, there's normally nothing to do with that mana right?
this is pretty cool too huh 
Oh also mr kipmud, how do you get infinite mana again with hullbreaker? 
Yep smol ring
going off under split second is incredibly cool to me
Hashaton is incredibly fun but I honestly wouldn’t put him past rogue or fringe tier in cedh, maybe even bracket 4 (which is technically that in terms of power)
Idk bracket 4 doesn’t work 
God I fucking hate playing against the landfall deck. It's so braindead and doesn't really feel like it matters what I do against it.
I feel like WoTC intentionally pushed landfall because it just lets you benefit from having the ability to play the game and it's easy for new players, but it really just feels like a coin toss every match
Triggered abilities, mana abilities, and special actions are the only thing that can happen with split second on the stack I think
Literally haven’t seen a single mono green landfall in mythic
They’re all simic
And much less greedy
the eoe stuff made them shift to simic
well that one creature ig
makes them a lot less greedy like you said
Yeah, I’m saying the Sonic version isn’t brain dead, there’s actual outplay potential in it and not just “I drew 2 snakeskin veils gg”
the icetill guy is also 4 mana so they have to be a bit less greedy to get to him
They used unsummon on ghalta so I got to put it into play using its own ability then do it again after drawing a shit ton off of tyrant 
This deck is stupid fun to play
i've seen a greedy mono green that used the draw for counters enchantment
kinda cool with the hydras that enter with counters
drop a hydra draw 3
but quite greedy
standard kinda popped off on my locals today
normally it's small but I saw like 10 people in and I actually want to play if they get turnouts like that instead of nobody
but idk what I want to build 
it's maybe the esper pixies or azorius control
azorius control
welcome to the fold
I just dont know if I will actually enjoy playing it
I like the idea but I can't craft it in mtga and I'm not buying the cards to see if I like it
goldfish it on moxfield
make a new account, you can make most of the deck
ofc not lands
you can make something like this
it's kinda serviceable
if you only need to check if you like the playstyle it's enough i think
like you can drop the consults and play stock up, i just specifically wanted to test consult
actually?
did not know
do you just get enough gems or wildcards immediately?
new accounts get a lot of packs which results in around 10-12 rare wildcards and 3-5 mythic wildcards
plus whatever you pull
in that screenshot i pulled anchorage and fumigate
the first few wins will give you like 1-2 more packs off mastery, and then you get 1000 gold for another, which iirc rn results in another rare wildcard
oh shit nice
if you also don't wanna make another email for this, you can just make an acc with [email protected] or smth
mine is [email protected]
np
oh sometimes (idk what triggers it) you get 5 jumpstart tokens
google mtga jumpstart packets
they have a list of what they contain and what % you have to pull stuff
i got adagia off those
it's rng but there's stuff like elspeth or adagia or i think even mistmoors there
it's a low chance to pull but it's free if you luck out
god i have this put down to a science 
Low key pissed about this LGS I went to tonight
I was offered essentially 50% on an 80 card
Store credit, not cash
Here’s the thing
They had 80% trade in since it opened as a new location, opening special
That’s why I went to trade in the card. It was an Ancient Tomb
When did they change it?
Not tonight, was talking to them earlier about it and I was told it was still 80% credit
Huh weird, maybe different printing or they went off a lowball online offer
Stellar sights one, one of the cheapest printings of it to begin with iirc



the LGS sent me an email about the ancient tomb
"sorry about the mixup, we can offer 65% for it" basically
Don't trade in singles you can easily sell yourself for like 5% below lowest on market
People are always gonna want tombs
-Mason explaining why the pharaoh should invest in his business
I love drafting
Who's mason and what business does he run

He's an undertaker 
YEAHHHHHH
the random eldrazi plays super well with random encounter, funnily enough
what should I name my [[isu the abominable]] deck?
Vs meathook leonin + animate/necro
Legendary Snow Creature — Yeti
You may look at the top card of your library any time.
You may play snow lands and cast snow spells from the top of your library.
Whenever another snow permanent you control enters, you may pay
,
, or
. If you do, put a +1/+1 counter on Isu.
5/5
Tbju?
[[tinybones joins up]]
I was doing tinybones + sharuum
But yeah I’ve seen lists on both, abdel is a consistent wincon which is decent

I don’t like tbju though
oh really? it looks rly epic
Requires more things to happen to be worth and can’t remember the wording on [[sharuum, the hedge]]
No card found for “sharuum, the hedge”
[[sharuum]]
hashaton + sharuum + tbju yeah
Yeah just the animate dead loop is good enough without
Oh but then you cant win it just loops?
I don’t like running dead cards to make a combo work
Abdel loop is possible with flash and doesn’t require a meh card to work
[[Abdel adrian]]
Legendary Creature — Human Warrior
When Abdel Adrian enters, exile any number of other nonland permanents you control until Abdel Adrian leaves the battlefield. Create a 1/1 white Soldier creature token for each permanent exiled this way.
Choose a Background (You can have a Background as a second commander.)
4/4
Oh is it infinite soldiers with abdel + animate dead/necro?
Tbju enables 1 tick of hashaton which isn’t nothing
Also yeah it does
Yep, infinite soldiers on an end step
For 1 mana I’d say wanting a repeatable source of discard isn’t far off (at least once per turn) but I guess it’s build dependent
Is there a way to loop tiny to leave opponent's handless?
"this is my handless combo" - mr infernity man
Not really in hashaton unless you want to do some weird extra combo
Leonin + necro + tiny doesn’t work, has to be abdel
And at that point you win regardless
Sometimes just turn 1 abdel loop is just good enough lmao
Just in case some kids are on wipes or whatever
because im not actually playing in c 
but like 4
You do the combo on the end of your last opponent’s turn
Enchantment
You may cast this spell as though it had flash. If you cast it any time a sorcery couldn't have been cast, the controller of the permanent it becomes sacrifices it at the beginning of the next cleanup step.
When this enchantment enters, if it's on the battlefield, it becomes an Aura with "enchant creature put onto the battlefield with Necromancy." Put target creature card from a graveyard onto the battlefield under your control and attach this enchantment to it. When this enchantment leaves the battlefield, that creature's controller sacrifices it.
I forgot this thing had flash spheed
I don’t think I run animate dead because necro has flash and I prefer just doing full value
What else are some other good discard enablers for hash that are also like good on their own? 
[[ghostly pilfer]] is a classic

Also maybe im a noob but it's hard to get the mana for hash sometimes
bc im not on stuff like LED
Not a GREAT card but turns out drawing when your opponent plays their commander is pretty pretty good
I usually only go off a turn after (which is okay where I play because im not in b5)
The mana aspect is why hashaton isn’t as great in cedh than expected
If only it was free, sigh
He has a broken ability and fits very well in a control deck but 3 mana each time, even if it grants you tons of advantage, can be too much
Works wonders vs those midrange decks that just wants to stockpile interaction though

I'm pretty nice so I've just been reviving [[archon of cruelty]] only against my friends with hash
instead of a combo win
Nah just slam down bomb after bomb, like valg in Jin gitaxias into cons sphinx 
Hashaton is very good at just chaining bombs
Not good enough
Sigh
Must extract further value
Ok what can we play
Normally the problem is everyone is on some green value pile tht just spams the board
So smth like cont sphinx doesnt rly help
There’s [[magister of worth]] I guess
Creature — Angel
Flying
Will of the council — When this creature enters, starting with you, each player votes for grace or condemnation. If grace gets more votes, each player returns each creature card from their graveyard to the battlefield. If condemnation gets more votes or the vote is tied, destroy all creatures other than this creature.
4/4
You copy in a magister of worth and if Grace gets more votes then you reanimate the initial magister and try again 
Reminds me of thinking about the Abdel loop for Master of Keys
I think ppl will just vote grace again
vote deez-
Just had a fun commander duel using the World Shaper precon. Player to my left used Riverchurn Monument and it got bounced to his hand. Player in front of me was Krenko. So it was either kill the mill guy or kill the goblin guy and lose to mill. Didn’t notice that the Monument sent Moraug to my grave and I had an Exploration Broodship so was able to cast it with extra landfall triggers.
Got a foil promo Tezzeret from the pack reward for the trouble 
Depends on boardstate and other etbs
But it’s also much harder to get Grace going because all 3 of them have to choose it (assuming you always choose condemn)
Some new foil pickups along with the promo Tezz I got lucky in pulling
Huh I didn’t know spirited companion had a cat version
Makes the etb module in my modular cube easier to work with
they were the bonus cards from the "X Better Than X" secret lairs
I’m still theorycrafting Modular cube and it’s difficult, more than I thought lol
I know there are some workarounds like bigger modules or a decently large base module but I don’t want any of that, just pure 15 card modules
The more that I think about it, making each module 2 colors while being archetype and set locked with 1 gold card and 7/7 mono colors is probably the best way to go about it
And have a set rule for how many land modules I put in, leaning towards 1 land module per 2 players
Is this expensive to build atm?
BATS
Good card so I’ve been told
He used stock up to find a board wipe and I top decked another bat
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Thugs why haven’t you approved my purchases 
You haven’t bought anything interesting king
Finally had time to watch that game and it was much better than I expected
Who knew gaea’s cradle and ways to abuse gaea’s cradle was good 
I think I have a problem
Where?
LMAO
i have 22 decks, should I post the list of commanders
Welp storm is pretty much impossible to add into this modular cube, 15 cards is way too low
Well it works under some permutations of the cube but it won’t be consistently showing up, at least not the cast 10ish spells then kill version
The mh2 version of cast 2 spells a turn is healthy and alive though
rip
Go ahead
W6 isn't in Hell queue in brawl??? What?
I feel like hell queue is more flexible than usual
also they don't preload commanders into hell queue
W6 should've been the exception lol
Time to strip lock with her until they send her to hell queue
Although strip mine shouldn't be legal in brawl at all
Strip Mine should never be legal in 1v1 formats lmao
ngl I prefer Clara for 10th, but each to their own choices
azusa does the same thing except drawing strip mine late is better when you can kill 3 lands a turn lol
[[clara Oswald]]?
Legendary Creature — Human Advisor
Impossible Girl — If Clara Oswald is your commander, choose a color before the game begins. Clara Oswald is the chosen color.
If a triggered ability of a Doctor you control triggers, that ability triggers an additional time.
Doctor's companion (You can have two commanders if the other is the Doctor.)
2/6
Yes
Clara especially is good if you are running multiple doctors in the 99 (one exception but its a green doctor so doesnt matter)
War Doctor and Eleventh Doctor is all it would help
I can’t even really use Ninth Doctor in the deck effectively
fair
Before previews for _Marvel’s Spider-Man_ officially begin, I thought it would be fun to do another of my _Duelist_-style teasers where I give tiny hints of things to come. Note that I’m only giving you partial information.
First up, here are some things you can expect:
• a new artifact Food
• “mind swap” as flavor words
• a new card with “Rocket-Powered” in its name
• some new counters – ingenuity and film
• a five-color Spider-Man
• a reanimation spell that can reanimate a number of creatures never used before
• a card that keeps the “legend rule” from applying to Spiders
• a card that lets you exchange life with another player
• a character, other than Miles, from the Ultimate universe
• a famous Spider-Man meme is made into a card
Next, here are some rules text that will be showing up on cards:
• “Exile those tokens when Mysterio leaves the battlefield.”
• “choose a card type other than creature.”
• “Look at the top nine...
morbius card real 
Or the pointing meme
A new artifact food
Gotta be pizza
It better be
idk what "vampire scientist villain" could be if it isn't morbius
that's a gargoyle
Tomato tomato
They didn’t specify anything other than it being a famous meme?
I think youre looking at the wrong line
Salt is referring to one creature having vampire scientist villain as their creature type
And yeah that has to be Morbius
Morlun is the only other spidey enemy who is a vampire but hes not really a scientist
wonder if we can get another company to fall for the morbius hype
That would be peak
the famous meme is gonna be the spiderman point
Morbius 
just saw a post saying with the price of standard why is anyone playing it instead of modern
and my first thought is there are no locals nearby that do anything other than commander or standard, like do people not realise communities are different
like yeah I'd be playing modern immediately if I could play it
mind swap
Superior Spider Man confirmed
I feel like playing a format cause there's nothing else around is more of a sad reality than a motivation
That’s how I feel about commander, good thing the best players in the area (survivors of the format purge) have cube and are open to trying everyone’s cube
There’s rumblings of a pauper event happening soon
Fast forwarding through the professor’s new video on discontinued products made me sad because I remember how excited I was to look through event decks and looking forward to playing them in standard fnm 
Illusions my beloved (delver is my second)
Format purge?
Every store swapping to commander in the area
Happened during covid when events were shut down but people were allowed to come in to play commander
Oof
Yeah
though I modified the group hug one
Group hug?
[[Ms. Bumbleflower]]
Oooh the rabbit one
Oh that's really cute
Those are some of my favourite colours too 
Cool I'll have a look but that's definitely half a foot through that door
Group Hug being a strategy that emphasizes political gameplay through handing out resources in return for your opponents beating your opponents up.
Some settle with going for 2nd place but the best aim for the girlboss win once the timing is right.
to name a few "hugs" in my list (added in) we got gluntch for draw/counter/treasure, Oviya to emphasize aiming attacks elsewhere via mass trample, and Gor for handing out stabby salamanders
word of warning, group hug is kinda hard to play given you have to balance giving out resources with accruing your own
also you have to be careful not to kingmake
^ This
but yeah you can't really go wrong with any of the bloomburrow precons, they're all pretty potent and have their own theme
bello is strong but probably the most commander reliant of the 3

oops 4* I forgot the bird one
Group hug is an acquired skill over time, can't just expect to play cards and win. The cards you're holding and how you speak with the table are equally important




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