Magic the Gathering

[gritty nest]

I picked up some more cardboard crack tonight

[zinc shard]

oh hey, Hope Esthiem support

[golden plover]

HOOLY SHIT

This is the best card we've seen so far?

That's pushed as fuck

Ehh not best in the set but up there

I just don't think he's got a home rn

[last glen]

hmm
are there ways to fill up a GY with artifacts on the easy

[golden plover]

Not too hard with cheap ones

Actually in modern he can eat a bauble and get going on 2

Wait I see the vision in standard

Izzet monument with a slightly more aggressive tilt

[subtle sierra]

Wow i was about to get ultima irl

[zinc shard]

Reprint

[trail anvil]

guys not to alarm you, but I think black might have an aristocrats theme this time around in draft

[barren cairn]

https://tenor.com/view/simpsons-homer-bart-coco-boogeyman-gif-11881646

[subtle sierra]

the game is telling me smth lol

[trail anvil]

it's telling your opponent to fuck themselves more like

[subtle sierra]

why do ppl insist on siding authority of the consuls into me

i'm playing control

i had like 5 ppl do that and it was absolutely useless

at best it gained life for elspeth tokens

[trail anvil]

did you bring out elspeth g1

that's still pretty weird considering the rest of your deck though, the life gain seems irrelevant

[subtle sierra]

idr

like in that game i played vs yuna

and i just dropped like 6 counters on their shit

idk why you would side authority

they didn't even side it out g3 after it was useless g2

[sleek ferry]

High likelihood that they either don’t know their side patterns or their side is just ass/nonexistent

[subtle sierra]

ig that's possible

but i never see it g1 and always g2/3

regardless, the only time it was useful was when aggro sided it in and i couldn't block stuff with beza and fish for a turn

i got into plat now so i think ppl will be a little less stupid now

[sleek ferry]

Boros or Jeskai?

[subtle sierra]

idr i think it was boros

[twilit canyon]

everyone is free on arena until maybe top 100 mythic

so even in plat, ppl will be bad

[subtle sierra]

that would include me...

[atomic harness]

Thank you fuwisty

[sleek ferry]

Plat is fine, you really start noticing the skill difference around Diamond then another jump in Diamond 2, then another jump in mythic

[atomic harness]

Diamond is a bit harder

[twilit canyon]

yeah but u dont dedicate totally to mtg

[atomic harness]

same

[subtle sierra]

i might once i get my deck irl

[sleek ferry]

When I first started climbing back in the day, the jump from diamond 2 was super noticeable if your list isn’t optimized

[twilit canyon]

then when u do so, u will probs skyrocket up the ranks

if thugs could get to mythic, u can too

[sleek ferry]

I’m sadly just great at every game I play

It’s a curse

[copper pecan]

not me, i'm built different (worse)

[twilit canyon]

u can do it if u try

[trail anvil]

one of these days I'll bother to climb to mythic

didn't realize these leaks came out when I was asleep, it's rare that they give black the bum of the cycle

[sleek ferry]

Sleep? Buddy it’s 11pm your time

[trail anvil]

I work nights 🙂

and I had errands to run until literally 12 pm

highkey though this could've even exiled enchantments

the art for this set still goes hard as hell goddamn. I wanna try pulling the elevator off cause it sounds hilarious too

I feel like this is what all green creatures are eventually gonna converge into over time until monogreen becomes good again

starwinder sounds fun as hell for big creature decks and zero point ballad seems like a legitimate side vs aggro in standard

this is just begging to be instantly slotted into hope estheim

[trail anvil]

affinity + double strike and haste jesus

embersliver

quantum riddler looks really nice with the warp option early game

[stark skiff]

tolarian academy IN SPACE!

[lusty trench]

Fatal push 2 baybee

Also damn biotech specialist

[last glen]

Bunch of angel support

[trail anvil]

biotech specialist looks nuts in commander for treasure strategies. the lander token is just gravy, 2 damage to each player per token goes crazy

[trail anvil]

tragic slip 2 but it's a sorcery

[fallow citrus]

wait does this mean confluence is in standard?

or are these special guests

[lusty trench]

I think its a bonus sheet

[stark skiff]

doesnt have the spg tag

[fallow citrus]

hmmm

interesting

conflience and caverns in standard would be insane

[trail anvil]

wait my mind just autofilled this as types, this shit counts the number of cards in exile?

[stark skiff]

its goyfing time

[trail anvil]

delve + goyf time

[lusty trench]

Its gurmag goyf time

[wary night]

I'll check it out!

[lusty trench]

If you want to go full magical christmas land for goyf, serum powder and devourer of destiny

The most annoying blockers in history being made

[trail anvil]

I feel like that's too cheese, but ig you need to get this powerful early to abuse it being 2 mana? idk

[lusty trench]

The 2 mana 7/8 dream

[trail anvil]

looking back on archenemy's charm, maybe I was a bit too commander brained about it? I feel like it could see legit standard play considering it's an exile removal spell and has flexibility to warrant mainboarding

each mode seems decent vs a different deck and the exile mode especially seems nice vs dimir

do we have a cheaper exile removal that hits kaito too, or at least in black?

[sleek ferry]

3 black pips in a standard era of efficiency is just too much

Its best chance is post rotation, but I don’t think it gets there

[trail anvil]

shocklands are pretty solid duals at least

but clearly it's time for monoblack to rise again

wait shelly is rotating lmao

[glad peak]

I’m not sure how good the mana will be but that determines how playable it is in every format

Since archmage charm isn’t really played as triple blue is too hard

[sleek ferry]

The best one is archdruid’s, and that’s because its modes are actually kinda efficient

Tutor for 3 mana? Sure

[fallow citrus]

archmages charm my beloved

[lusty trench]

Managed to get yshtola sleeves and mat for retail

https://tenor.com/view/dbz-strong-sky-gif-14611436

[golden plover]

I mean all three modes on this one are on or above rate

I think it's playable

I CALLED A DOGSHIT VOID FATAL PUSH SORCERY

I just didn't expect it to be that lol

[lusty trench]

Honestly still might be playable

[golden plover]

I'm not sold on it

Sorcery speed hurts a lot

Compare it to something like [[Grim Bauble]]

[lost widget]

https://scryfall.com/card/dft/88/grim-bauble

Grim Bauble <:manab:292901508872273920>

Artifact
When this artifact enters, target creature an opponent controls gets -2/-2 until end of turn.
, , Sacrifice this artifact: Surveil 2. (Look at the top two cards of your library, then put any number of them into your graveyard and the rest on top of your library in any order.)

[golden plover]

This only saw play because pixie can bounce it

And even then, pixie started cutting it before they lost nightmare

[lusty trench]

Just have to see how aristocrat esque play patterns form

With sephiroth in the format it could be okay

[golden plover]

Yeah raise the past might run it

Raise the Past is getting a lot of tools to elevate it I feel like

Issue tho is that the base mode just isn't good

[[Disfigure]] which is in standard but rotates, doesn't see any play

[lost widget]

https://scryfall.com/card/bro/91/disfigure

Disfigure <:manab:292901508872273920>

Instant
Target creature gets -2/-2 until end of turn.
With a snap of metal like a strike of lightning, the tide of war shifted in Mishra's favor.

[golden plover]

[[Eaten Alive]] is probably the closest comparison, and that doesn't rotate

[lost widget]

https://scryfall.com/card/inr/106/eaten-alive

Eaten Alive <:manab:292901508872273920>

Sorcery
As an additional cost to cast this spell, sacrifice a creature or pay .
Exile target creature or planeswalker.
"If you hear a groaning noise in the cellar, don't investigate. Don't split up. Just lock the door and barricade it." —Emili, guard captain

[zinc shard]

Damn, Panharmonicon and Anointed Procession on legs

[subtle sierra]

I was about to say caustic exhale but i forgot how it worked

[lusty trench]

Fellas youve heard of 1 chase lair bonus card

Youve even heard of 5

But have you heard of seven?

[ornate cedar]

S.S. Timmy

[zinc shard]

Lotus Petal?

You mean... the Chaos Emeralds?

[subtle sierra]

Flavourful card

I like it for this only

[zinc shard]

Think I'm cooking

[subtle sierra]

this looks decent

but there's prob better removal

[copper pecan]

you're telling me a lobster fried this rice?

[subtle sierra]

lobber

[twilit canyon]

end stone minecraft noway

[fallow citrus]

OIH

awooooooga

I know it's 6 mana but still

[subtle sierra]

eject is interesting but it costs 3

we already had [[stroke of midnight]]

[lost widget]

https://scryfall.com/card/tdc/132/stroke-of-midnight

Stroke of Midnight <:mana2:292901509060886528><:manaw:1007102126813610074>

Instant
Destroy target nonland permanent. Its controller creates a 1/1 white Human creature token.
The assembled partygoers fell silent and stared. As the helmet came to a clattering stop, the only sound was Ash's distant footsteps.

[subtle sierra]

i think eject is better but

3 mana

seedship impact reads pretty good

[copper pecan]

she impact on my ship till i seed

[subtle sierra]

-2

[fallow citrus]

[copper pecan]

understandable

[subtle sierra]

oh the lands are cute

i might grab some irl after ppl draft

[fallow citrus]

ouroboroid would be cute in scales if it wasn't 4 mana lmao

yooo

[twilit canyon]

there are super sick

[subtle sierra]

is that standard legal?

[copper pecan]

no

[subtle sierra]

sadge!

[hidden ermine]

Hmmm

I cant quite put my finger on what it is, but something about the artstyle or visual design for this set doesnt agree with me

[golden plover]

I think it's moving the name and the type to the bottom like that

Type in the text box looks weird as fuck imo

[subtle sierra]

it's a ygo card but with name in the textbox

[copper pecan]

tbh i kinda love the art in this set so far

[subtle sierra]

art wise yeah i love it

which is why i want the common lands

cause i literally just starting out irl

might as well grab ones i like that are readily available

this plain fucks

[copper pecan]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/948945461597831218/1392208875922653345/4528152-chromecompanion_en_hrr.jpg?ex=686eb30e&is=686d618e&hm=9d90eb96cc728df3f09f5f32a9038541fe24d62fcb8a3ccd450131bc1d0023bf&=&format=webp&width=665&height=930

[subtle sierra]

this isn't a good card, but it is the best card in the set

[hidden ermine]

No like

I mean for the set as a whole

The alt arts I have realised just usually arent my thing

[golden plover]

I get it

I can't place it, but something is off with some cards art

Not the whole set for me, but it feels like a lot of art for a different card game is in it

Not in the same way stuff like OTJ or MKM art felt too silly

Just different

[stark skiff]

none of the lands really do anything for me so far besides the basics lol

[hidden ermine]

Idk, it seems like a solid sci fi aesthetic but I dont vibe with it

Oh well

[zinc shard]

lmao

[hidden ermine]

Im surprised we didnt get any iconic spaceships referenced in the art tbh

[stark skiff]

oh the face commanders are out

[gritty nest]

I wasn’t really impressed with either of the commanders

Hearthull looks nice though

[stark skiff]

found the money card

[lusty trench]

Ladies and gentlemen we did it

Muldrifter 2

[zinc shard]

*3

[[NullDrifter]]

[lost widget]

https://scryfall.com/card/mh3/13/nulldrifter

Nulldrifter <:mana7:292901508540792835>

Creature — Eldrazi Elemental
When you cast this spell, draw two cards.
Flying
Annihilator 1 (Whenever this creature attacks, defending player sacrifices a permanent of their choice.)
Evoke (You may cast this spell for its evoke cost. If you do, it's sacrificed when it enters.)
4/4

[zinc shard]

cant wait for the set focused on food so we can get Fulldrifter

wait

crap thats a custom card

my bad

[fallow citrus]

[[simulacrum synthesiser]]

[lost widget]

https://scryfall.com/card/big/6/simulacrum-synthesizer

Simulacrum Synthesizer <:mana2:292901509060886528><:manau:292901508754702338>

Artifact
When this artifact enters, scry 2.
Whenever another artifact you control with mana value 3 or greater enters, create a 0/0 colorless Construct artifact creature token with "This token gets +1/+1 for each artifact you control."

[glad peak]

Actually really like the lobster guy

Probably no way to make him cedh viable (even the best eggs deck isn’t doable) but he seems funny

[fallow citrus]

BIG is part of OTJ right?

[lusty trench]

eldrazi temple
Fuck i gotta sell my eye of ugin now

[twilit canyon]

eldrazi temple is crazy

[fallow citrus]

I am prepared to make the most dogshit artifact deck in standard

[lusty trench]

Inspirit kinda fucks

Kinda

[fallow citrus]

I mean it's in the right colours

[lusty trench]

I think the issue with it is the amount of counters is a bit low

Like it should give more especially since you need another creature to activate it

[fallow citrus]

ig the idea is you pair it with counter doublers

[lusty trench]

In not green?

[sleek ferry]

weapons manufacturing + the red 1 drop is just 4 damage to anything on activation no?

[fallow citrus]

:)

I'm dumb

[lusty trench]

Nah dw ive made worse blunders

Decks revealed soon so who knows could be a white counter doubler in there

[tardy echo]

Are these going to be standard legal

[lusty trench]

No

They have a different set code

[trail anvil]

man this is gorgeous as hell

ig this is the planned spacecraft commander

[stark skiff]

Yeah they are. I like the Jund.

[trail anvil]

how do people keep forgetting tragic slip exists

yeah the jund one has a cool aesthetic too. it's very windgrace

I love how scapeshift is a finisher with that deck. tbh landfall decks could use more ways to end the game

ouroboroid looks like it's about to be insanely fun too. it seems like they had fun designing a ton of cards in this set

[fallow citrus]

gaea's for artifacts my goat

[past socket]

A new Tolarian Academy? Dang

[trail anvil]

bro why do you have to sacrifice a land for the red one 😭

[gritty nest]

Because red is all about tempo or some shit

Idk

[past socket]

But yeah did not expect Tolarian Academy 3

TA2 was [[Vault of Catlacan]]

[lost widget]

https://scryfall.com/card/rix/173/storm-the-vault-vault-of-catlacan

Storm the Vault <:mana2:292901509060886528><:manau:292901508754702338><:manar:292901508796645397>

Legendary Enchantment
Whenever one or more creatures you control deal combat damage to a player, create a Treasure token. (It's an artifact with ", Sacrifice this token: Add one mana of any color.")
At the beginning of your end step, if you control five or more artifacts, transform Storm the Vault.

Vault of Catlacan
Legendary Land
(Transforms from Storm the Vault.)
: Add one mana of any color.
: Add for each artifact you control.
Swimming in coins proved harder than they'd hoped, but dancing was a jingling delight.

[golden plover]

Wow this whole cycle sucks shit

Not a single playable card in the five

[trail anvil]

this is a johnny/timmy set and I'm here for it

[past socket]

My brain very much falls between them currently as a Magic player tbh

[broken fjord]

Wall of Blood looking very appealing for goofy spaceship/planet decks

[gritty nest]

[[wall of blood]]

[lost widget]

https://scryfall.com/card/mrd/82/wall-of-blood

Wall of Blood <:mana2:292901509060886528><:manab:292901508872273920>

Creature — Wall
Defender (This creature can't attack.)
Pay 1 life: This creature gets +1/+1 until end of turn.
Blood is thicker than mortar.
0/2

[gritty nest]

Pay 12 life to animate a space craft then watch it get blown up instantly

[broken fjord]

I described it as goofy

Not good

[zinc shard]

Check lands will be legal in Alchemy post rotation

[trail anvil]

why not just reprint them in the alchemy set I'm blind they're literally in there lmao

also isn't the whole point of alchemy to have a faster rotation? I feel like missing out on dual lands is a good way to change up the format

[golden plover]

Honestly just looks like they have no clue what they want with alchemy

[trail anvil]

not sure I trust this take from the peak alchemy hater

[last glen]

"kneecap the viability of multicolor decks" is a bridge too far, even in the name of accelerating meta shifts

[trail anvil]

I feel like there's always been a pattern of duals rotating out and multicolor decks getting weaker early in rotation, then getting stronger as the mana bases got better

[twilit canyon]

agreed but they did get a new alchemy head designer

so the vision for the format may be more adapted

[tardy echo]

What are checklands

[[isolated chapel]]

[lost widget]

https://scryfall.com/card/tdc/373/isolated-chapel

Isolated Chapel

Land
This land enters tapped unless you control a Plains or a Swamp.
: Add or .
Serra's blessing lies strongest upon Sursi, where her holy chapels are untouched even as the Cabal encroaches.

[tardy echo]

Ah

[sleek ferry]

That’s me, don’t give pope that much credit

Pope is the peak WotC hater

[lusty trench]

Wotc what are you trying to tell us

[subtle sierra]

[subtle sierra]

It keeps happening and it's getting worse, it's high noon in addition

[sleek ferry]

https://x.com/fauxg1ove/status/1942788023105774053?s=46&t=DdUsqNPs-c3IFDRYOhiq8A

Wandering Fauxglove (@fauxg1ove)

4-0 to win Store Champs with this sweet otters deck inspired by @FAir_Jordans list. Felt incredibly strong and well positioned right now

X · Jul 9, 2025, 3:28 AM

[lusty trench]

Someone ping me when thr commander deck is revealed today

[atomic harness]

Played some b3 commander today

[sleek ferry]

Mr. Urza himself

[atomic harness]

had lord high out also for a few turns but he got outed

[urban crane]

You won?

[atomic harness]

yeppers. Took out the mono green stompy player first

Then 1v2d against mardu aristocrats and kwain. Narset really hurt the latter

[urban crane]

Good job

[subtle sierra]

you mean you stomped the green player?

[atomic harness]

I attacked for 30+ with menace constructs

[trail anvil]

well done kidge

[golden plover]

Okay raise the past is looking kinda real

[glad peak]

Oh a free sac outlet

[atomic harness]

Oh that's rly good

[copper pecan]

is this the first time white has gotten this effect?

[trail anvil]

ik they've done enchantments before, especially with selesnya but one without

as far as artifacts all I see is copying a token one

[golden plover]

LMAO

[atomic harness]

[sleek ferry]

that monstrous rage is sexy though

[golden plover]

https://preview.redd.it/q694vubaivbf1.png?width=384&format=png&auto=webp&s=eb02f6d3839830da2c913b0ba8da94ed193e260d

Jesus Christ it's like they want this mechanic to fail

Hey @copper pecan at least this one has an ETB

[lusty trench]

Im confused for a lot of these because surely playtesting showed how weak they were

Even if you gave a lot of these the ability to sation at instant speed, they wouldnt be good

[golden plover]

Im like 99% sure you used to be able to station at instant speed and it was changed last minute

[storm elbow]

well either wizards knows something we dont, they simply do not want these to be good or they are just stupid

[golden plover]

And then they probably just didn't adjust anything after doing that

[lusty trench]

Dice roll prolly

[golden plover]

I can imagine this was like 3-4 mana originally (5 is on rate for it to have always been a creature) and with instant speed station, it took a nerf to 5 mana for limited

And then, when they nerfed the whole mechanic they just didn't fix it

[lusty trench]

Very confused why they keep giving command zone previews cause theyre always late with em

I guess its just their popularity

[twilit canyon]

[[skysovereign consul flagship]]

[lost widget]

https://scryfall.com/card/nec/159/skysovereign-consul-flagship

Skysovereign, Consul Flagship <:mana5:292901508796645386>

Legendary Artifact — Vehicle
Flying
Whenever Skysovereign enters or attacks, it deals 3 damage to target creature or planeswalker an opponent controls.
Crew 3 (Tap any number of creatures you control with total power 3 or more: This Vehicle becomes an artifact creature until end of turn.)
6/5

[twilit canyon]

crazy downshift

better too cus it can hit face

once stationed, its permanently a creature too

worse stat line overall but thats not a terrible trade off fo ran overall upgrade all things considered

[sleek ferry]

idk about better since you're swinging with skysovereign probably the next turn. I would have to see how fast debris comes online

[twilit canyon]

crew 3 is not trivial

also no reach

[sleek ferry]

at the time, or now? Because I feel like crew 3 nowadays is very trivial

[twilit canyon]

always

its not super easy even now

[golden plover]

There's no world where this better than Skysovereign lmao

It's so much worse

Crew 3 is way better since you get to trade it for 6 in the air and 3 to blocker/chump EVERY time

[sleek ferry]

tbf, 3 to any target is much better/flexible than 6 in the air

[golden plover]

Yeah but it's 3 one time

And Skysovereign is 3 every time

[twilit canyon]

uncommon vs mythic

[golden plover]

For sure, but this isn't playable lol

[twilit canyon]

neither is skysovereign

[golden plover]

Skysovereign has seen fringe play in formats where it can be cheated out

And Skysovereign was a limited all-star

Greasefang loves a single Skysovereign as targeted removal

[twilit canyon]

if greasefang could run spaceships, she'd rather have the reach as a niche option

station also reads a lot better, albeit balanced of a mechanic

hella underestimating it

[golden plover]

I think I'm undervaluing them a bit for limited with warp

But I don't think many of them are good at all

And I don't think we've seen one yet that's constructed playable

[glad peak]

With warp it’s very playable in limited

Im pretty sure that’s why they made these sorcery only, so people are forced to do it that way instead of holding creatures back and stationing all on your opponent’s turn

[lusty trench]

Aww fuck command zone isnt gonna release their vid for another hour or two are they

[trail anvil]

bruh indestructible is crazy 😭

I just noticed the laser holy shit

[atomic harness]

Holy

it's like ichor wellspring-chan

[zinc shard]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HxXLWC_JRdM&ab_channel=TheCommandZone

[sudden lava]

its out

[lusty trench]

Fuckin hell korvold in a precon

Stand outs for me

[sudden lava]

all the new cards from the world shaper precon

[zinc shard]

lol they put mass land destruction in a precon

[lusty trench]

Evendo brushrazor probably the best card here?

[zinc shard]

ye its decent

[glad peak]

It’s not really mass land destruction but it’s pretty weird since it does technically disqualify it in one of the brackets

[tardy echo]

Did golgari not have lands that did that already

I feel like I’ve read both of those cards

[sleek ferry]

oh they actually put interesting new cards in a precon?

Evendo Brushrazer feels like it might have something it can do

exploration broodship should have been in the regular set

[copper pecan]

me when i pay 5 mana for a lightning bolt at sorcery speed

[trail anvil]

I'm not sure they wanted to print exploration into standard

scouring swarm is hilarious, and nice considering it's flying to help end games

[lusty trench]

Im mainly excited for the counter intellegence deck but im hoping itll focus on counters that arent +1+1

[sleek ferry]

not the worst thing tbh, green could use the little extra boost

[waxen timber]

Turn 1 spaceship Exploration, Turn 2 play a 3 power creature and attempt to station and they just cut down your guy

[trail anvil]

I mean by the time they have the opportunity to do it, it'll be stationed

[golden plover]

Lmao mass land destruction in a precon

It's bracket 3 now

[trail anvil]

leaving 6 lands is probably fine tbh, most decks can function on that and the ones that can't likely have ramp anyways

[golden plover]

Oh I've been informed it's actually bracket 4

That's hilarious

Leaving 6 is totally fine yeah

[glad peak]

True but because of the rules, it’s now by definition it’s better than most precons

[golden plover]

But people will cry it's still MLD

Because when the Simic player loses 20 lands on t18, he's gonna be upset that I had mass land destruction

[lusty trench]

Me selecting my 4 lands (i was greedy and ran 30 lands in my deck)

[lusty trench]

Also the simic player

[glad peak]

Tbh blood moon should be in precons and not be considered MLD specifically because precons have little nonbasics

[lusty trench]

https://tenor.com/view/family-guy-building-construction-explosion-amish-gif-17407420

[golden plover]

Blood Moon is explicitly listed as mass land destruction

[past socket]

Mass land denial is the term btw

[golden plover]

MLD is vibes based, and this won't pass the casual vibe check

Ah gotcha

Either way, this fails the casual MLD vibe check

Despite it being fair

[glad peak]

If this passes the vibe check then blood moon passes the vibe check

[glad peak]

Fully deserved

[golden plover]

(The vibe check is impossible to pass)

The check is "Will a random at an LGS complain if this card is played against them?"

[past socket]

Not sure if I wanna mess with Locust God or Scorpion God

[golden plover]

Scorpion God is the hardest to build (because he's bad)

So either fun challenge or bad time

[past socket]

Just not enough -1/-1 supports I suppose

[golden plover]

Yeah, especially not in Rakdos

This one is almost good?

It's probably the most playable we've seen yet

Actually I lied, I don't see a time I'd want this over Roaring Furnace

[trail anvil]

if you're doing jeskai synth I can see it

what are they losing in rotation

[twilit canyon]

synth is rotating 😔

[golden plover]

Nah, OTJ is safe

Actually what do they lose

[twilit canyon]

battalion too

the whole deck is rotating

🥀

[sleek ferry]

Yeah synth loses a lot, but tbf, there’s too much hate for the deck to be successful rn anyways

[golden plover]

They lose Thran Spider and Seachrome Coast

[twilit canyon]

lol

[golden plover]

But that's kinda it, right?

[sleek ferry]

Its best chance was pre FF

[twilit canyon]

no they lose the whole deck

[golden plover]

OTJ doesn't rotate

[twilit canyon]

ik

[golden plover]

Synth should be fine, but still probably not tier 1 or anything

All their new cards they got recently help

But the deck still just loses to any hate

Some builds ran Jace ig

They lose him too

[sleek ferry]

They lose the 3 mana drop car that fetches you out 3-4 mana stuff

[subtle sierra]

they lose reconstruction but they have [[united battlefront]] now

[lost widget]

https://scryfall.com/card/tdm/32/united-battlefront

United Battlefront <:mana3:292901508771610624><:manaw:1007102126813610074>

Sorcery
Look at the top seven cards of your library. Put up to two noncreature, nonland permanent cards with mana value 3 or less from among them onto the battlefield. Put the rest on the bottom of your library in a random order.
The Abzan forces rallied to the call, driving back Sarkhan's feral dragon horde.

[subtle sierra]

unless i'm thinking of another deck

[sleek ferry]

They play United battlefront yeah

[golden plover]

Yeah, they weren't really playing reconstruction

[sleek ferry]

I think they lose the 2 mana stuff too

[golden plover]

Not really, they'll just play the ixalan ones

Saw trap and the plains searcher are better than the ones they lose

[sleek ferry]

You also lose the 1 of boardwipe

[golden plover]

They really don't lose much it looks like

[twilit canyon]

they are losing this too 🥀

[golden plover]

Still probably won't be good, but they come out okay

[sleek ferry]

United battlefront is a Tarkir card

They don’t lose it

[twilit canyon]

they lose it

tarkir doesnt rotate but they lose battlefront

[golden plover]

Oh no but we lose Loran lol

How will we out them now

[twilit canyon]

the only win the deck gets

abrade's still in even

[golden plover]

Yeah they're not looking too hot

And there's a new lockdown equivalent that hits them even harder

[twilit canyon]

the only way this deck doesnt lose battlefront or synth would be

[golden plover]

I mean, there's no way they cut battlefront

It's like their only good card

But imo, if you really wanna play Azorious artifacts, you just play glyph

[sleek ferry]

You cut it if you’re forced to play actual creatures

[golden plover]

The glyph deck isn't great either, but it's faster and can actually hold its own

[sleek ferry]

The math doesn’t work out if you’re not on like 25+ non creatures iirc

[twilit canyon]

30

same as coco

[golden plover]

I mean they lose the only creature they were playing

They probably don't replace it with a new creature

[twilit canyon]

coco on sub 30 is hilariously bad just the same way battlefront on sub 30 is not real

[golden plover]

They probably run whatever the least bad spacecraft is

Or some other artifact lol

[twilit canyon]

they needed the tutor spacecraft to find artifacts not leegndaries

[golden plover]

Maybe we'll get a blue artifact tutor spacecraft

But I doubt they'll play any of the ships we've seen so far

[sleek ferry]

Either ways, if it somehow is still around, it won’t be in Azorius

[golden plover]

Could go to Jeskai ig?

Splash Chainsaw

I dunno what else red gets them

Battlefront into Rediscover the Way sounds cool

But it's probably not good enough for them

[sleek ferry]

[[rediscover the way]]

[lost widget]

https://scryfall.com/card/tdm/215/rediscover-the-way

Rediscover the Way <:manau:292901508754702338><:manar:292901508796645397><:manaw:1007102126813610074>

Enchantment — Saga
(As this Saga enters and after your draw step, add a lore counter. Sacrifice after III.)
I, II — Look at the top three cards of your library. Put one of them into your hand and the rest on the bottom of your library in any order.
III — Whenever you cast a noncreature spell this turn, target creature you control gains double strike until end of turn.

[twilit canyon]

the red rare ship but then you're jeskai and idk if u wnna go that far

[fallow citrus]

I think you just play jund artifact sac instead of trying to force synth

[sleek ferry]

I love the way aeri copes

We’re just not going to play artifacts

[fallow citrus]

well sure but I actually like artifacts so I'll play them

[golden plover]

You can run the new robot guy I like?

I don't think he's good here

[fallow citrus]

you basically just want to spam the board with little shitters and use sac outlets to burn for 2 with this

[golden plover]

Oh wait... Monument

I'm coping so hard with this

There's no way to make this deck work lol

[sleek ferry]

The red 1 drop artifact + the 3 mana thing is funny, but that probably is better in like a different deck

Also most likely not viable at all in our elos

[golden plover]

Yeah that's the best thing I'm seeing with artifacts

And there's no way I'd play that in mythic lol

Or even in like plat

[fallow citrus]

you're just not a powerful enough coper

[golden plover]

Maybe we'll see like 3 new crazy artifact enablers and we'll get some weird grixis artifact thing

[sleek ferry]

I’m all for losing rank to test out new decks (non rank is not real humans)

[golden plover]

Emet Selch, the red robot, and a way... I dunno?

Maybe monument?

[sleek ferry]

Emet Selch is bad ngl, I don’t see the appeal in him

Every deck I’ve seen in the ladder on Emet is lose turbo

[golden plover]

Yeah he's bad

[trail anvil]

he's a commander card honestly

[golden plover]

But if I'm playing shitty grixis artifacts

He's the glue that makes monument not bad

[trail anvil]

are you sure about that, I'm sure there are much better discards

[golden plover]

Oh right artists talent doesn't rotate

[sleek ferry]

Monument has like 15 better cards in izzet that make it not bad (and it’s still cope, I say this as the biggest monument fan)

[golden plover]

Nevermind

We're not playing him

[sleek ferry]

Monument is more interesting synth

If we’re being honest

[golden plover]

I've been wanting to make boros caretakers monument work forever

Monument is genuinely close to being a good card

But so far, the biggest winner of EOE is looking to be raise the past

There's like 3 new cards that make raise the past way better, one of them being a free sacc outlet that also surveils

[sleek ferry]

Its annoying because I really despise raise the past decks

[golden plover]

I mean they're so easy to stop

Just counter raise the past or exile their little guys

They don't have a backup plan

[sleek ferry]

I miss farewell

Actually good designed card

That nobody ever complained about

[trail anvil]

there goes the act of treason with set mechanic

using it to man your own ships sounds like a fun use

[fallow citrus]

just played against my friend on orzhov midrange and he just opened the perfect curve twice 😭

[golden plover]

Woah finally a card that lets you do ship stuff

[stark skiff]

Man I may have to buy that Jund deck. Actually looks fun

I actually think that 6 land spell is how land removal should be done but I know it won’t pass vibe checks lol

So dumb they go against their own bracket guides

[fallow citrus]

holy shit this equipment deck is so annoying to play against

[lusty trench]

Pauper players rn

https://tenor.com/view/write-that-down-taking-notes-school-universities-university-gif-17937210

[copper pecan]

is there something i'm missing here?

why does pauper want this

[lusty trench]

Every time an artifact enters pauper with a decent rate for effects, a paper gets published

[trail anvil]

2 mana 4/3?

[twilit canyon]

have your lander tokens

[lusty trench]

I mean theres no world where they dont let you make the toke- yeah

[twilit canyon]

there is

[lusty trench]

Maybe if you drop it late game but playing this is probably the wrong move regardless

[twilit canyon]

when im gonna curve board wipes into you

or the new lockdown

[lusty trench]

Imagine they drop affinity for artifacts in this

[last glen]

Well-known strategy of giving your opponent more land acceleration

[twilit canyon]

if they are gonna waste 2 mana per land

sure

[last glen]

hol' up
Lander tokens are quickie

[last glen]

Standard legal?

[lusty trench]

Eoe set code

So yeah

Wild card

[golden plover]

I'm torn on it

I think it's very format dependant

Oh wait it's been in standard a few times prior

It was in Kaldheim and saw no play

Spell Pierce is in standard

[last glen]

[[Spell Pierce]]

[lost widget]

https://scryfall.com/card/dft/64/spell-pierce

Spell Pierce <:manau:292901508754702338>

Instant
Counter target noncreature spell unless its controller pays .
The druid's aim was dead on. But their choice of target was dead wrong.

[sturdy lion]

Just made a sliver deck for arena

Not the most strong or even good, but its the most fun I've had in arena

[sturdy lion]

The amount of slowplay is annoying to be sure

[sturdy lion]

cascade with a haste Sliver is fun

[atomic harness]

is swan song a little too try hard for usual brackets?

[urban crane]

Not really?

Swan song is fine

I think if it’s ever been printed in a precon it’s okay

[trail anvil]

it's fine in any bracket, it's just an efficient counterspell

build your own mindslaver pog

[sleek ferry]

Why not an offer you can’t refuse young one?

[atomic harness]

Yeah I changed it to that, also budget since I'm prepping for a tourney

[sleek ferry]

Tourney?

[urban crane]

Ren for urza you have saga right?

[atomic harness]

Normally yes tho had to cut it

[atomic harness]

Prepping for a $200 limit B3 tourney next weekend

saga is like 45, swan song is like 10-ish something

managed to get my list down to $198

[glad peak]

Welp guess I’m making erinis

[golden plover]

https://preview.redd.it/rb7vn6l3k2cf1.png?auto=webp&s=de87efa8e2d0f09e00df8876192e2c30a5954246

Probably too expensive for Oculus

[atomic harness]

Looks cute

[golden plover]

Not enough guys for Raise the Past

It notably gets you everything you need back in a single play for energy

Actually grabs you Heliod and Ballista

Hmm

This is legitimately the best station so far LMAO

[atomic harness]

Sigh, I miss glorybringer

Word me @sleek ferry @trail anvil

[sleek ferry]

Wdym, this is Amelia + your 1 mana life gainer or a million different combinations

[twilit canyon]

thugs has never cast glorybringer in his life

[sleek ferry]

You probably don’t play it because you already have raise the past

[sleek ferry]

I’ve exerted glorybringer more times than years you’ve been on this earth

[fallow citrus]

I love the flavour on this

[tardy echo]

[[glorybringer]]

[lost widget]

https://scryfall.com/card/tdc/215/glorybringer

Glorybringer <:mana3:292901508771610624><:manar:292901508796645397><:manar:292901508796645397>

Creature — Dragon
Flying, haste
You may exert this creature as it attacks. When you do, it deals 4 damage to target non-Dragon creature an opponent controls. (An exerted creature won't untap during your next untap step.)
What the initiates face in the final trial is completely at Hazoret's discretion.
4/4

[sudden lava]

https://tenor.com/view/wait-that-thats-is-illegal-gif-18393263

[fallow citrus]

Counter Intelligence precon list https://moxfield.com/decks/87E1JD9c9E-sFNFp6jcIAg

[lusty trench]

ways to end game
most of the good proliferate stuff
good reprints
decent draw power
wotc damn

[sudden lava]

I won't have the money for this and set releases after my birthday

[fallow citrus]

it's just missing voltaic key and surge node

then it could have been peak

[atomic harness]

Looks decent. Is it standard for the precons to not have many new cards?

maybe I was spoiled by the brothers war ones since they had a bunch

[fallow citrus]

the decklist on here is missing some cards

[glad peak]

I would hope I’m less than 100 years old

[lusty trench]

10 new per deck

[sleek ferry]

10 new cards per deck is standard no?

[fallow citrus]

these 9 + the police bot up there

[sleek ferry]

Also they’re completing the land cycles

That they never did

[lusty trench]

Honestly deck looks solid

[fallow citrus]

it's very decent yeah

[atomic harness]

oh okay they were missing

[sudden lava]

Unless they are UB, they tend to have 12

or like around that number

[fallow citrus]

yeah moxfield just dont have them in annoyingly

[atomic harness]

Thanks

[sudden lava]

That being 2 (Commander Face and Backup) + 10 other new cards for the 99

btw I love this manta ray's art

I know it's a reprint, but that is a cool art

[atomic harness]

Hmm is anyone here versed in cedh?

[glad peak]

Couple of us

What’re you looking for young one

[atomic harness]

tivit was always a meme right? Like he's way too slow and there's better consult thoracle commanders to play with

I was watching our friends play a rogsi tnt urza Magda pod

and like games just end before tivit can do anything

[golden plover]

Tivit is good, but you very rarely every play him from the zone

[glad peak]

Tivit is very good

[golden plover]

Same thing as RogSi

He's there for his colors and a decently strong ability on demand if it happens

[glad peak]

You only play him as a combo piece or when the game goes long

[atomic harness]

hmm wouldn't you just rather play rogsi then or is the white splash that big

[glad peak]

He has to play control so you have to mulligan hard for card advantage and interaction

It’s not about comboing fast

[atomic harness]

icic. If I wanted to play I was thinking about tnt or rogsi

[golden plover]

Yeah he's more interaction and slower than RogSi

[glad peak]

Just because he has a thoracle line doesn’t mean he has to turbo it, he’s very much a sit back and draw cards type of deck

[atomic harness]

or like the kraum opus guy with tymna I think?

idr

[glad peak]

Blue farm

[atomic harness]

kinnan is also pretty good yeah?

[glad peak]

Kinnan is a different playstyle entirely

Blue farm you want to draw a bunch of cards and stumble upon a protected win

[sleek ferry]

It’s meta dependent. Tivit was at his peak during midrange hell meta, rogsi is a more aggressive deck that wants to mulligan aggressively, do stuff t1 to set themselves up for t2

[glad peak]

Kinnan you want to stax them out with void winnower or control with blue while you slam big things or get to an infinite

[atomic harness]

Are there any fast esper commanders that you can actually cast that might be decent?

since tivit rarely hits the board

[glad peak]

There’s tymna malcolm

[atomic harness]

[[Malcolm]]

[lost widget]

Multiple cards match “Malcolm”, can you be more specific?

[glad peak]

Not too fast but you gain advantage through attacking and you want both commanders out consistently

[sleek ferry]

The goat, Marneus Calgar

[fallow citrus]

my favourite cedh deck will always be sisay

[glad peak]

I’ll always have a soft spot for najeela

[atomic harness]

Anyway thanks, probably will be a while before I ever consider it

Just gonna meme around b3

[glad peak]

But nowadays it’s celes

[sleek ferry]

There’s also like Raffine who is still ok-solid, Hashaton who never lived up to the hype

[atomic harness]

some ppl in my area are trying to make terra cedh a thig

yooo Raffine MY goat

[fallow citrus]

although modern sisay looks different

last time I played her you just had the kill combo as your win

[glad peak]

Hashaton is fine and raffine’s alright

[atomic harness]

I think if I do play I might want to try Raffine

[glad peak]

I don’t like him as much as tymna malcom

[atomic harness]

[[hashaton]]
[[Raffine, scheming seer]]

[lost widget]

https://scryfall.com/card/drc/1/hashaton-scarabs-fist

Hashaton, Scarab's Fist <:manaw:1007102126813610074><:manab:292901508872273920>

Legendary Creature — Zombie Wizard
Whenever you discard a creature card, you may pay . If you do, create a tapped token that's a copy of that card, except it's a 4/4 black Zombie.
"I served the Scarab in an age long past, in another form, under another name. No matter their visage, I serve."
1/3

https://scryfall.com/card/snc/213/raffine-scheming-seer

Raffine, Scheming Seer <:manaw:1007102126813610074><:manau:292901508754702338><:manab:292901508872273920>

Legendary Creature — Sphinx Demon
Flying, ward
Whenever you attack, target attacking creature connives X, where X is the number of attacking creatures. (Draw X cards, then discard X cards. Put a +1/+1 counter on that creature for each nonland card discarded this way.)
1/4

[lusty trench]

Someone pointed out the art of insight engine

The ai cant make humanoid hands

[atomic harness]

Oh Zur the enchanter is also quite decent right?

Zur greaves into necropotence etc etc

[lusty trench]

Zur even has necropotence skeleton in one of his arts

They know

[glad peak]

Hashaton is fun in that you can get random huge effects on board but floodgates aren’t where you want to be in cedh

[hidden ermine]

A little ironic given WotC was caught using AI art in a DnD thing a while ago

[atomic harness]

I saw a lot of rly cool cards being played and teched like

[[banishing knock]]

[lost widget]

https://scryfall.com/card/eve/17/banishing-knack

Banishing Knack <:manau:292901508754702338>

Instant
Until end of turn, target creature gains ": Return target nonland permanent to its owner's hand."
Suddenly he realized that everything was connected by invisible strings, strings that could be pulled—or cut.

[lusty trench]

Its gotten caught with ai art in magic too iirc

Not on the cards but in advertising

[hidden ermine]

Ah

Lmao

Also I swear the dude on Control Bracelet looks like Darkseid

[lusty trench]

Is this anakin?

[atomic harness]

Someone used like a mist land thingie to make their force of will uncounterable

but my friend managed to deflecting it thanks to Mr roggy rakkh

[golden plover]

I've been enjoying Hashaton as a Cedh Esper commander

He still has most of the tivit lines but gets to do neat reanimator lines too

[glad peak]

Don’t be fooled, it’s just another infinite combo piece with the otter

[golden plover]

He's also got a unique win he can do at mana ability speed

[atomic harness]

oh they were using it to actually out stuff and delaying combos hm

I guess its flexible

[glad peak]

It has a secondary use for that but it’s mainly used for combo

It’s a card people argue about whether or not to add

[atomic harness]

There was a huge stack with a mind break trap ready to answer it

but then there was flare of duplication copying that mind break trap

fun stuff

[sleek ferry]

Cedh actually has a good amount of tech choices, you only start really narrowing down when you’re looking into TEDH

Like all the bad cards Yuriko plays because they’re exactly good in Yuriko

[glad peak]

I really like reactive red blue shells

[atomic harness]

oh right I wanted to ask about yuriko

can you actually like swing w her and not like lose before that happens

[glad peak]

Yuriko is yuriko is yuriko

[golden plover]

You can half the time yeah lol

The other half she's dead before swing

Just depends on the game

[glad peak]

The main thing you have to know is that cedh isn’t as fast as people have the perception of

[atomic harness]

Hm yeah some games did take a bit

[golden plover]

Ya know, they keep saying that Yuriko can't be changed to pay tax, but why couldn't they

[glad peak]

That being said, don’t play doomsday yuriko, that shit mid

[golden plover]

They could just add that to the Oracle text of commander ninjitsu

[atomic harness]

I'll probably just build Raffine b3

[golden plover]

It'd make her a lot weaker but she doesn't really have a reason she can't get a rules text change

[glad peak]

You should build erinis street urchin in every bracket

[atomic harness]

[[erinis, street urchin]]

[lost widget]

No card found for “erinis, street urchin”

[glad peak]

[[erinis]]

[lost widget]

https://scryfall.com/card/clb/230/erinis-gloom-stalker

Erinis, Gloom Stalker <:mana2:292901509060886528><:manag:292901508654301185>

Legendary Creature — Halfling Ranger
Deathtouch
Whenever Erinis attacks, return target land card from your graveyard to the battlefield.
Choose a Background (You can have a Background as a second commander.)
3/3

[glad peak]

[[street urchin]]

[lost widget]

https://scryfall.com/card/clb/197/street-urchin

Street Urchin <:mana1:292901508373282827><:manar:292901508796645397>

Legendary Enchantment — Background
Commander creatures you own have ", Sacrifice another creature or an artifact: This creature deals 1 damage to any target."
Your harsh upbringing on the streets of the city left you crafty, resilient, and wise beyond your years.

[atomic harness]

[glad peak]

In terms of Esper, noctis and master of keys are somewhat playable

[atomic harness]

For cedh?

[glad peak]

Yep

Like if comedIan wins with either deck for content it wouldn’t be surprising

The man can win with any deck other than dracogenesis

[sleek ferry]

Yuriko and Magda are 2 of those Cedh commanders that seem to always get specific support for them

Prosper too, but I haven’t seen prosper in forever

[glad peak]

Prosper stopped prospering once Rakdos

[atomic harness]

Magda is pretty scary yeah
I saw stuff like clown car, weird clock thing that untaps, roaming throne

changelings for dwarfs

[sleek ferry]

There’s also the 3 mana artifact she got in aetherdrift

[glad peak]

Yep, Magda + artifact dwarf + clock = infinite tapped treasures which = dump every artifact into play which = dump every creature into play which = loop bauble + bolt + barry tuck for a kill

[atomic harness]

Holy I saw a tivit list play tataru taru

[[tataru taru]]

[lost widget]

https://scryfall.com/card/fic/30/tataru-taru

Tataru Taru <:mana1:292901508373282827><:manaw:1007102126813610074>

Legendary Creature — Dwarf Advisor
When Tataru Taru enters, you draw a card and target opponent may draw a card.
Scions' Secretary — Whenever an opponent draws a card, if it isn't that player's turn, create a tapped Treasure token. This ability triggers only once each turn.
0/3

[atomic harness]

[sleek ferry]

People speculated on Tataru taru yea

It’s solid

[wary night]

I got this from the collector sample pack, I bought the limit break deck yesterday! Super cool, is the pull good?

Struggling to find it on card market icl

[sleek ferry]

Only a $100 card

[wary night]

Yeah!!!! Its not coming up for me as 100 tho

I'm only getting 60

YIPPE 100

Time to sell it for 5 slimes

[sleek ferry]

EU prices could vary, but last couple of sales on tcgplayer are in the mid to high 80s

[wary night]

Oh nvm, I'm stupid. I didnt turn on the foil button.

I'm buzzing tho

I could get 3 fabled sephiroths

[sleek ferry]

If you had pulled the surge foil version, you would have been $400 richer

[lusty trench]

Cant get surges in samples sadly

Second highest pull you couldve gotten iirc

[sleek ferry]

Really? Damn that sucks ass

[wary night]

Guess I'll have to buy collector boxes

There 1k you say? Hahaha

Cant quite spend that much atm for some shiny foils lol

[lusty trench]

Dominik mayer produce bad art challenge (impossible)

[wary night]

Is there a robo deck

That's good

[sleek ferry]

Overcosted sigh

Should have been 3 mana

[lusty trench]

Yes

Join us

[fallow citrus]

yeppers

[wary night]

Wow commander

That's cool

I might have to join

[gritty nest]

Holy shit they actually brought back a mechanic from a previous set

[gritty nest]

Is the deck list fully revealed?

Huh, it looks neat

[sturdy lion]

Wow, people are not happy to see the first sliver

[sudden lava]

Very good, you should build a deck with her using the grand summon loops

Step 1 Make blue, Step 2 untap her using that blue, have her crab dance using step 1&2 for however many times and then cast a different creature who will get 2x amount of grand summons performed in the form of +1/+1 counters

Optional next piece to the combo (as the creature you cast above), ballista to hit everyone at the table (besides yourself) for 1000000000000 damage

[glad peak]

What’s wrong with the first sliver

[lusty trench]

Its fine its just casual tables cant deal with the snowballing

Slivers and similar decks became easier to deal with over time with more exile boardwipes

[sleek ferry]

You could say this about every tribal deck no?

Goblins, elves, merfolk

[lusty trench]

Slivers have a reputation

[glad peak]

Sounds like a skill issue to me

[lusty trench]

They get basically every keyword so theyre a lot more tricky to remove

[bronze bronze]

i just found a really cool combo

toxrill + maha = everyone jumping over the table to get you

[glad peak]

Too slow

Night of soul’s betrayal though

Nah both do nothing

[golden plover]

There's also [[Kaervak, the Spiteful]]

[lost widget]

https://scryfall.com/card/m21/106/kaervek-the-spiteful

Kaervek, the Spiteful <:mana2:292901509060886528><:manab:292901508872273920><:manab:292901508872273920>

Legendary Creature — Human Warlock
Other creatures get -1/-1.
"Defy me and I will burn the flesh from your bones. Betray me and I will steal the breath from your lungs."
3/2

[golden plover]

But he's kinda whatever too

Sidenote: Why was Kaervak in OTJ? He's a random old dominaria big bad

[lusty trench]

Lemme rephrase mudkips saying, the combo is effective, works as you want it to, but the issue is seeing the specific pieces, having the mana for both, and not having both removed instantly because theyre both high value targets that draw a lot of attention to each other. Consider using them individually rather than together, theyre both good enough cards that synergise well with lower commitment options

(Im writing all this out cause i assume the player is newer)

[glad peak]

Nah lemme rephrase my saying: just play a regular board wipe

[lusty trench]

That works too

[glad peak]

However if I’m feeling spicy, I’ll rephrase it as: play better cards

^thats what I use with my friends

[golden plover]

Technically this does keep them from ever being able to get another creature down so it's slightly better than a board wipe

But... Not worth all the extra hoops

[glad peak]

Now if you want a funny deck, build around tevesh + Armageddon + humility

[sleek ferry]

I wonder if I should put Tevesh + Ishai back together

[glad peak]

You should, hilarious deck

Any tevesh pile really

[golden plover]

Just play everyone's shit

Oh Ishai lets you put Sen Triplets in there too

We need a Sen Triplets retrain where they correct the mana color

[sleek ferry]

I got to put it together and then think a bit about how it does into the meta

[golden plover]

What other cards can we put in this to just play all the opponents shit

[wary night]

Lmao thanks, do you have a decklist for this?

[glad peak]

Probably very badly, lost a lot in the lotus/crypt bans

[sudden lava]

I dont have a list, but it shouldn't be too tough to build

[golden plover]

Remind me in like 30 minutes when I get off work to make MH4 sen triplets and post it to magic the circlejerking (it's 3 mana, grand abolisher, does color fixing, and steals from all opponents)

[bronze bronze]

the issue with that one is that you dont make 16928702 slugs every turn

[wary night]

Sounds like a challenge >:)

[sudden lava]

Will note there is a precon she is in, so you could use that as a base to start off from

[wary night]

The cat person or the green haired woman precon?

[hidden ermine]

Oh hey, Shock with set mechanic

Oh nvm its sorcery 😔

[golden plover]

There we go

I fixed Sen Triplets

[trail anvil]

I didn't play in this standard

[twilit canyon]

sorcery bolt upside though this is pretty nice

probs wont make it in modern or legacy

[fallow citrus]

I love slow play with fire

[twilit canyon]

if you can trigger void its so much stronger

depends on our warp stuff

[golden plover]

I don't even think it's standard playable tbh

Sorcery really kills it

[twilit canyon]

somewhat

but if it was an instant this would be overpowered

[fallow citrus]

probs would be tbf

[twilit canyon]

getting multiples in limited will also feel like you are cheating

and it is a common so

basically the way i see it: this is a [[skewer the critics]] that is always 1 mana

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https://scryfall.com/card/rvr/124/skewer-the-critics

Skewer the Critics <:mana2:292901509060886528><:manar:292901508796645397>

Sorcery
Spectacle (You may cast this spell for its spectacle cost rather than its mana cost if an opponent lost life this turn.)
Skewer the Critics deals 3 damage to any target.
Going to a Rakdos show is dangerous. Trying to leave early can be fatal.

[twilit canyon]

but requires another spell to enable

[fallow citrus]

now all they need to do is print fetches into standard

[twilit canyon]

they thought of that

unfortunately

void is non-land

or warp

[fallow citrus]

oh yeah I forgor

[twilit canyon]

which is very nice with the haste 2 drop in black that warps for black

[golden plover]

Skewer was much better because the ability to chain skewers after another card was huge

[trail anvil]

fabled is in standard but yeah

[trail anvil]

I mean you can chain this too

[twilit canyon]

the same way you chain a warp into this

i just detailed a good curve of it too with the culler

t1 aggro t2 warp culler bolt

[sturdy lion]

I do hope for a trample sliver to be added at some point

[sleek ferry]

Ngl, I’m kinda bored with the meta rn, and the funny thing is, I’ve ran into literally 0 dimir

Despite Twitter dooming about this shit

I probably run into izzet and yuna builds the most and even roots

[golden plover]

I ran into caretakers 3 times today (I'm on Dimir)

That shit sucked

Losing matchup for us, and it just feels grindy enough we could ALMOST win it

[sturdy lion]

Okay now the lack of a report button or lack of good ignore player button is a tad annoying

[fast tide]

Soon, I got a deckbox and sleeves prepped for it

[atomic harness]

Oh wow

[fast tide]

Who knew stuff from aliexpress is so much cheaper than amazon

The deckbox and a new playmat cost me what it cost me to get the same deckbox from amazon

[atomic harness]

Didn't imagine you to be a simic guy duckster

[past socket]

Good luck with playing Omo, can be quite a fun Legend

[fast tide]

Yeah I'm pretty excited and Terra is mardu so I figure a simic one filled out the colours I didn't have yet

[atomic harness]

did you play during that standard

Glorybringer = goat

[past socket]

Fair enough on that

She’s gonna have some fun synergies with the lands in her precon too if you’ve looked at the decklist

[twilit canyon]

it was like 2 or 3 standards before my time

[atomic harness]

understandable

ramunap ruins = second goat

[twilit canyon]

i've played a fair bit of it in historic and pioneer as well as in modern ponza

glorybringer is always pretty fun

[atomic harness]

oh fuwisty is there a reason to play necrodominance over potence in cedh? My friend was on domi instead

or is it because he doesn't own it

He did dominance pay 25 and then used an end step thingie to cast stuff with flash and played from there

[past socket]

[[Necrodominance]] [[Necropotence]]

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https://scryfall.com/card/mh3/102/necrodominance

Necrodominance <:manab:292901508872273920><:manab:292901508872273920><:manab:292901508872273920>

Legendary Enchantment
Skip your draw step.
At the beginning of your end step, you may pay any amount of life. If you do, draw that many cards.
Your maximum hand size is five.
If a card or token would be put into your graveyard from anywhere, exile it instead.

https://scryfall.com/card/ima/98/necropotence

Necropotence <:manab:292901508872273920><:manab:292901508872273920><:manab:292901508872273920>

Enchantment
Skip your draw step.
Whenever you discard a card, exile that card from your graveyard.
Pay 1 life: Exile the top card of your library face down. Put that card into your hand at the beginning of your next end step.

[past socket]

Does he wanna play from exile in his deck?

[golden plover]

I've said it before and I'll say it again: [[Kaito, Cunning Infiltrator]] is incredibly underrated in Dimir Mid

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https://scryfall.com/card/fdn/44/kaito-cunning-infiltrator

Kaito, Cunning Infiltrator <:mana1:292901508373282827><:manau:292901508754702338><:manau:292901508754702338>

Legendary Planeswalker — Kaito
Whenever a creature you control deals combat damage to a player, put a loyalty counter on Kaito.
+1: Up to one target creature you control can't be blocked this turn. Draw a card, then discard a card.
−2: Create a 2/1 blue Ninja creature token.
−9: You get an emblem with "Whenever a player casts a spell, you create a 2/1 blue Ninja creature token."
Loyalty: 3

[golden plover]

Made a control player lose the game because they can't out his emblem

[atomic harness]

blue kaito holy

does Dimir not play bane of nightmares?

[golden plover]

Dimir plays 2-3 Bane

I just tech a single mono-blue one on top of that

[atomic harness]

Neat. I love bane of nightmares

[golden plover]

Bane is a key card in the deck

[atomic harness]

Do you have a list rn?

[golden plover]

They also both synergize p well

[golden plover]

My list is slightly unconventional

But it's doing very well in mythic

You could swap the Rakshasha for siren, but I like the Kaito interaction a bit too much

(Rakshasa's decay trigger does mean you can ninjitsu in Kaito after combat without losing him. You have to enable full control for it tho)

Intimidation Tactics can also be Dreams of Steel and Oil, but that rotates soon and I prefer the versatility of cycling

[atomic harness]

[[intimidation tactics]]

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https://scryfall.com/card/dft/92/intimidation-tactics

Intimidation Tactics <:manab:292901508872273920>

Sorcery
Target opponent reveals their hand. You choose an artifact or creature card from it. Exile that card.
Cycling (, Discard this card: Draw a card.)
"This is still a negotiation. We haven't broken anything... yet." —Far Fortune

[atomic harness]

This should be good

Thank

[golden plover]

Also note for the sideboard, I'm on a tech call in place of Faerie Mastermind

You'd probably wanna be on Mastermind, but I feel confident in the deck enough to run 2 [[Azure Beastbinder]] instead

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https://scryfall.com/card/blb/41/azure-beastbinder

Azure Beastbinder <:mana1:292901508373282827><:manau:292901508754702338>

Creature — Rat Rogue
Vigilance
This creature can't be blocked by creatures with power 2 or greater.
Whenever this creature attacks, up to one target artifact, creature, or planeswalker an opponent controls loses all abilities until your next turn. If it's a creature, it also has base power and toughness 2/2 until your next turn.
1/3

[golden plover]

Sided in for Izzet, Mono-Red, the mirror, and anything that's looking pretty artifact heavy

The idea is turning off cauldrons, scary attackers, curiosity to safely kill it (you can also side in vacuum for this, but it feels more dead than I'd like in the mirror imo), or anything else weird to deal with

Can come in against pixie or caretaker too if you know they're on LOTV or Elspeths

[atomic harness]

I'm gonna miss cut down

[golden plover]

Same, it's a tough slot to be losing

And Go For the Throat

Our removal suite gets much weaker come rotation

[atomic harness]

Is the outlaw one not too good? (Are there many outlaws)

[golden plover]

It's pretty good, but it will miss more often that GFTT

[atomic harness]

I remember having to play power word kill back in the day and there were so many things it couldn't hit

[golden plover]

Various random good cards will just dodge it

[twilit canyon]

dominance can technically synergize with some other cards on the trade off that it gets dumpstered by notion thief

[atomic harness]

[[notion thief]]

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https://scryfall.com/card/znc/96/notion-thief

Notion Thief <:mana2:292901509060886528><:manau:292901508754702338><:manab:292901508872273920>

Creature — Human Rogue
Flash
If an opponent would draw a card except the first one they draw in each of their draw steps, instead that player skips that draw and you draw a card.
3/1

[sudden lava]

https://sm.ign.com/ign_nordic/photo/f/final-fant/final-fantasy-commander-decks-revealed-feature-cloud-tidus-a_ahkg.jpg

counter blitz

[atomic harness]

but I love the cat person

jokes aside counter blitz is the strongest

[sleek ferry]

Shoot the sheriff and bitter triumph are solid

Bitter triumph got better if your deck plays Cecil imo

[stark skiff]

[wary night]

I was wrong both times
Thanks

[urban crane]

What do people think of the jund precon?

[trail anvil]

harrier seems like a pretty cool creature but it's kinda weird in a station set

[subtle sierra]

Omg it's blood on the snow

[past socket]

Virus Beeble reprint ❤️

[wary night]

I wonder if there's a hand loop to be had here

[trail anvil]

this is a reprint

[fallow citrus]

Cut the Fuel Line (?)

2R
Instant

Uncommon

Target creature deals damage to itself equal to its power. If that creature has flying, it deals twice that much damage to itself instead.

Flavor Text: When fighting Kavu, you must always be on guard for a reaction that is disproportionate to your action.

[sleek ferry]

https://x.com/claudiohmtg/status/1943512939320754417?s=46&t=DdUsqNPs-c3IFDRYOhiq8A

claudioh (@claudiohmtg)

Giving our good lad Jodah one last hurray for this standard rotation with this sweet brew! @fireshoes @Ashlizzlle_

X · Jul 11, 2025, 3:29 AM

Expensive ass brew, wouldn’t recommend it unless you already have most of these cards

I could see this deck being solid though thanks to Zack and Surrak

[twilit canyon]

crokeyz has been on a similar list for a while and i did try it but

yeah kinda whatever ultimately

[twilit canyon]

stalker is so cool wait

2 mana blink or 4 mana removal

thats a really neat card tbh

[fallow citrus]

yeah it is pretty cool

[subtle sierra]

is it just me or sami's a decent card?

[twilit canyon]

not just you

its more or less a spread out mini cultivate

finds one land but gains 2 life but you can do so from turn 1 and 2 instead of all at once on 3

theres merits and making artifacts for 1 is never bad

[sudden lava]

no aliens in the set, 😦

[trail anvil]

isn't this just wayfarer's bauble that gains life

it's practically identical besides the fact that you wouldn't have an artifact cast

[lusty trench]

Im getting very the card is bad energy tbh

[trail anvil]

also kinda sad that biomechan engineer is the draw two create a robot teaser, but at least its name is biome-chan

your opponent getting the first hit from this is pretty oof lol

at least you're the only one that gets a timetwister, but counting on their hand to be empty sounds rough