ok kevin
#Magic the Gathering
copper pecan
quiet edge
Just learned that some cards in this set are... probably just reprints?
copper pecan
yeah there are a lot of reprints in this set
quiet edge
There's one that's Hidon, some form of monster from Final Fantasy VI, yet it had a way different name
sleek ferry
Kuja is somewhere smiling knowing he ain’t catching these strays right now
sudden lava
Just learned that some cards in this set are... probably just reprints?
yeah there is 4 commander decks with reprints, and the collector booster has a bunch of fun reprints to but with new art
trail anvil
worth noting some of the reprints are new to arena though
copper pecan
i'm sure that akroma's will will see plenty of play in brawl
gritty nest
Did akroma’s will get reprinted in ff?
zinc shard
trail anvil
yuriko is gonna be the true brawl menace
that shit better be instant hell queue if they know what they're doing
gritty nest
Every little bit works
past socket
Probably more in the future at least on the landbase, more than I have already
glad peak
[[morska]]
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You have no maximum hand size.
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glad peak
oh yep you're going to want a bunch of the duals and fetches
quiet edge
Well, if I am gonna make a very casual Magic deck, it'll just be Gilgamesh.
Maybe with a few other red-related cards in the set.
And maybe stuff from that other crossover set featuring D&D
...I dunno about card usability though. I know Magic is one such game where there is set rotation, so I think I might be out of luck with using those kinds together.
glad peak
nah that's only for standard
if you're playing an eternal format or a casual format you'll be fine
quiet edge
Ah, ok
I guess I could also try finding this card, Lord of the Pit.
Apparently Summoned Skull was based on this card, and I think that's pretty cool.
glad peak
oh hey vincent
gritty nest
What’s your guys consensus on the yshtola deck
zinc shard
that shit better be instant hell queue if they know what they're doing
Godo could be a problem too
glad peak
is helm of the host in arena?
also needs a lot of ramp i'm not sure exists
but it's also very linear and if people don't run removal they'll just die
gritty nest
Yshtola or the arena thing?
zinc shard
is helm of the host in arena?
ye
copper pecan
helm's been in since day one
sudden lava
...I dunno about card usability though. I know Magic is one such game where ther...
If you are looking into a Gilgamesh deck and are also afraid of rotation, definitely play Commander!
twilit canyon
Godo could be a problem too
godo is also fun tho
gritty nest
Yeah. Standard isn’t the only format
twilit canyon
6 mana and we dont have true accel
sudden lava
Commander doesn't have rotation, and it lets you build around a legendary creature of your choice. If you remember the yugioh anime arc that used "Deck masters" its similar in concept but less "play your creature and you die on the spot if its removed"
gritty nest
Commander doesn't have rotation, and it lets you build around a legendary creatu...
Although some play that way already in commander and tell you you’re playing cEDH for playing god forbid, Beast Within
sudden lava
Commander is 100 singleton (outside of basic lands ) with your legendary of choice being the 100th card. Typically played with 4 people at a time so it's got that free for all feel with it which comes with some social dynamics. Your commander (or commanders in some cases as some creatures let you have a second one) decides what color(s) you are allowed.
Looking at Gilgamesh, seems like a very simple commander to build around. Lots of equipment to throw onto the battlefield and equip to him for big damage. Plus it's monored so your land base will be very easy to make. @quiet edge
(And nearly the entire card pool is legal so rotation is no fear ^-^ as we dont rotate in commander)
quiet edge
If you are looking into a Gilgamesh deck and are also afraid of rotation, defini...
Ah, ok!
Oh yeah I definitely need all the swords for Gilgamesh
It's just his kind of thing!
glad peak
funny enough, probably won't be needing most of the swords
quiet edge
So by "Equipment" is there something in the sets that's Equipment, or does it really just mean whatever "Artifacts" are?
gritty nest
Equipment is a subtype of artifacts
quiet edge
Ah, ok
glad peak
it'll specifically state equipment in the typeline
gritty nest
Like the Buster Sword for example is an equipment
quiet edge
Ahh, ok
gritty nest
[[!Buster Sword]]
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gritty nest
There’s also auras, which are basically enchantment variants of artifacts, but they only enchant the one creature and can’t be swapped around without other effects
quiet edge
Final Fantasy sets has plenty of equips like that, and a few others
gritty nest
[[!Sticky Fingers]] for example
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glad peak
very importantly, these are not equipment
gritty nest
Yeah, my auto correct decided to be a pain
glad peak
so you cannot grab these with gilg
quiet edge
Ahh, ok
gritty nest
Magic is very literal in its texts and what to do
glad peak
if you want a good baseline for gilgamesh decks, slicer is a deck with similar ideas
quiet edge
Well, seems aside Buster Sword, the Genji Glove looks super cool
It's a rad relic in Final Fantasy VI so I'm glad it's the same here(?)
glad peak
play equipment, attach equipment, stax out your table while you smack them
sudden lava
Yeah with auras you put them onto a creature when you cast them, and when the creature leaves the field it loses the auras.
With equipment you first get them onto the battlefield (either normal casting them or through some means to cheat them out say for instance gilgamesh) and then later you can attach them to a creature usually for a price (sometimes free, gilgamesh being an example of a free equip) and if the attached creature ever dies the equipment stays behind on the field waiting to be attached to a new creature
And much like yugioh equip spells, a creature can in fact have multiple auras and equipment on it at a single time
quiet edge
Ahh, ok
I'm definitely gonna have to read through the rulebooks to learn more, but I'm willing to see what can be done
Aside Gilgamesh, though, what other creatures could go for such a deck?
quiet edge
I didn't see any sign of Enkidu though. Sad
twilit canyon
the best equipment card in mono red is godo and thats cus it literally wins by itself with helm
honestly probs wouldnt bother with other creatures
gritty nest
In mono red, I’m not too sure, but if you had access to white at minimum you’d be able to do a lot of stuff
But I don’t think there’s a boros FF equipment matters legend is there?
sudden lava
There is also like an entire type of deck that plays how I envision a Gilgamesh deck. A little strategy known as voltron
In commander there is a notable rule where if over the course of the game your commander dealt 21+ damage to a single player (counts every hit so doing 5 damage 5 damages with your commander counts) that player loses.
quiet edge
Oooh
gritty nest
Note that its combat damage, not any form of damage
twilit canyon
also tho commander is pretty dogshit if you dont have friends also into commander
sudden lava
true true combat specifically
twilit canyon
imo even if u do its pretty shit
gritty nest
also tho commander is pretty dogshit if you dont have friends also into commande...
Real
twilit canyon
so ymmv
especially with a strat that focuses like voltron
super salt inducing bc a lot of commander players are babies
gritty nest
Misty
sudden lava
Voltron as a strategy aims to suit up your commander with equipment and or auras to protect them, give them more abilities, and ways to get in for the big damage
gritty nest
Is your pfp cipher?
twilit canyon
yes
gritty nest
Understandable
quiet edge
Alright, so from what I'm learning, you can only use a color matching your commander, so with that I'd be stuck with just other red cards.
twilit canyon
red and colorless
gritty nest
Yes
twilit canyon
and not just that, they have to have your color symbols only within the cards
quiet edge
Unfortunately means that whatever this is won't work, since it's a white card. Some article was going about how cracked it was in equipment decks.
sudden lava
If we take Gilgamesh as an example, he clearly wants lots of equipment to attach to lay on the hurt. And yeah your commander's color identity dictates the colors (so gilgamesh is red and colorless)
twilit canyon
so ie: a card like [[gruul signet]] is unplayable
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twilit canyon
because it has green in there
gritty nest
Unfortunately means that whatever this is won't work, since it's a white card. S...
Stone forge is cracked, but yeah you can’t run it
quiet edge
welp
twilit canyon
mono-red for equipments when godo exists is truly hilarious
gritty nest
While [[!Blind Obedience]] is legal in a mono white deck
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quiet edge
And wow, look at that price tag. I probably can't run it even if I wanted to!
gritty nest
Because magic
sudden lava
On another side of the voltron coin, the aura voltron
twilit canyon
magic is an expensive game
gritty nest
Only expensive if you build expensive
twilit canyon
sure, you can proxy, but not all places will allow them even if its casual
ask your lgs first
glad peak
magic's an expensive game unless you play the worst format, in which case it's pretty much free
gritty nest
I have a $25 xyris voltron deck that mops the floor, same with a $20 Haldan Pako deck
quiet edge
Yeah, I'm trying not to break the bank with this. The whole Gilgamesh experience really is about as far as I'm willing to take it.
gritty nest
magic's an expensive game unless you play the worst format, in which case it's p...
Vintage?
sudden lava
Pearl Ear (A deck I love to death 💖 ) is my choice for an aura based voltron deck.
glad peak
commander
quiet edge
Ooh, ok
gritty nest
Pearl Ear (A deck I love to death 💖 ) is my choice for an aura based voltron d...
Pearl ear is disgusting ngl
sudden lava
Thats why I love my little kamigawa fox advisor ❤️ she can be explosive
gritty nest
But yeah, you can build on a budget with the right deck, but don’t expect that with every deck
quiet edge
Righto
twilit canyon
mono-colored decks will often be extremely expensive to optimize in commander
cus the mana base can get freaky
gritty nest
The only reason xyris works is just the evasion and build a board strat it does very effectively without getting a target on its back. Haldan Pako gets away with it due to being able to kill someone turn 4-5 every time then be too quick for everyone else
Ruby medallion moment
twilit canyon
easily going from "oh i can play a lot more utility lands" to "i have more utility lands than basics"
quiet edge
So, as far as cards, it'd be like
Gilgamesh
A lot of equipment stuff
Mountains
Whatever Lightning Bolt is supposed to be. Pretty sure that's the most well-known Red card
Anything else?
twilit canyon
bolt is shit in commander overall
sudden lava
Play all the auras (auras are all enchantments btw) to make future ones cheaper and keep drawing to get me into effects like tempest technique that give her +1/+1 for every enchantment I have
quiet edge
Oh
gritty nest
My colorless deck has 5 wastes, the rest is utility lands
quiet edge
Well, nevermind about that one
twilit canyon
gimme a sec
gritty nest
I’d honestly run bolt though unless there’s more budget red interaction
Misty can probably find that though
Blood moon is relatively cheap and universally hated
quiet edge
Ooh, ok
sudden lava
oh yeah I should explain what storm is cuz the screenshot I used doesnt say
gritty nest
[[!blood moon]]
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quiet edge
Oh wow that's cool
quiet edge
Oh
gritty nest
lol
quiet edge
Nice artwork though
twilit canyon
like it is if you are a red mage
sudden lava
Storm makes copies of it for every spell cast before it that turn
gritty nest
You’d hate to go against it kind of card
twilit canyon
but its the easiest way to make people hate you in commander
gritty nest
You’d rather be giving a blood moon that receiving one
Because it can quite literally lock people out of the game
twilit canyon
also some mono colored decks will often lose to it too (not you but you know)
also whats your budget
sudden lava
there is also moon on a stick
the stick will also make you hated, but at least it dies to creature removal
quiet edge
Well I don't want players to hate me
Sounds neat!
Ehh, well, extremely casual so... maybe 40 USD max?
Tentative?
glad peak
you're playing voltron, you're going to be hated regardless
twilit canyon
oh you're gonna be cooked on that budget but i guess you can use proxies for a fair bit
quiet edge
Ah
sudden lava
~~Well I don't want players to hate me~~
Sounds neat!
first line makes me want to introduce you to Mrs. Bumbleflower
quiet edge
Yeah I don't mind proxies
twilit canyon
but whether a table you play in does is not up to u unfort
sudden lava
[[mrs. bumbleflower]]
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quiet edge
This sounds very beneficial to your opponet but I just know something evil is behind this innocent effect
sudden lava
There is a strategy that is almost exclusively a commander strat, it's called group hug
glad peak
nothing really, other than killing with food chain
quiet edge
twilit canyon
this isnt relevant to gilgamesh
quiet edge
That's alright
glad peak
group hug is the same as stax, don't play it if you don't want to be hated lol
sudden lava
Not relevant to gilgamesh, just me going on another area
Grouphug acts as a beneficial player at the table ❤️ handing out stuff to people and making deals
quiet edge
Oh, right
Cause it's a free-for-all
So like, pit the others against each other by helping out whoever is lagging behind
glad peak
giving everyone stuff makes the game go longer in a board stall, it's honestly even more boring than quick games
sudden lava
exactly, grouphug takes the social elements and cranks it up. While your opponents go after each other you build up your stuff and either aim for 2nd OR girlboss and finish them off when their focus is on each other
glad peak
imagine playing against mystic mine because you gave the opponent a mystic mine deck
quiet edge
sudden lava
another example that exists within my grouphug deck, Oviya
Any creature that attacks my opponents has trample, mine and my opponent's alike
sudden lava
yeah trample is like piercing from yugioh
quiet edge
Oh, ok!
sudden lava
The notable part here is Im giving my opponents a benefit to go after each other, trample on everything is really spicy :3
quiet edge
Pretty neat!
glad peak
that's the concept but in practice it either turns everyone against you, gets one person to kill everyone quickly, or stalls out the game forever until no one wants to play (very likely)
sudden lava
on that note, also have stuff like gluntch who lets me control who gets the benefits a bit. You wont believe how much this silly Jellyfish has gotten people offering me deals.
quiet edge
ayyy it's a flumph
past socket
The Kingmaking Jellyfish
sudden lava
Lots of ways to help people (yes I snuck a new reprint in the screenshots) and it's an easy deck to get off the scarier players off your back. It's a bit technical of a deck but you eventually get the hang of things
Even people who know that one day one of my wincons will hit the board still fall for the supporter roose at the table :3
(idk if I spelled roose right)
quiet edge
Thanks for the tips!
sudden lava
Np, glad to help
quiet edge
This'll still be a very casual thing and I may not ever get into it fully, but I'm willing to learn more about it!
gritty nest
another example that exists within my grouphug deck, Oviya
Oviya is busted
sudden lava
oh yeah explanation of the gift mentioned on perch protection
gritty nest
Had someone turn 3 ghalta stampede tyrant
sudden lava
gift is a keyword where if while you cast the spell you promise the gift to another player, you get an extra benefit
gritty nest
Lots of ways to help people (yes I snuck a new reprint in the screenshots) and ...
I’m guessing you only recommended perch protection for budget reasons
sudden lava
I’m guessing you only recommended perch protection for budget reasons
budget, and it's in my personal list.
sudden lava
I have won games off the birbs to ❤️
twilit canyon
just proxy most of this
quiet edge
Hey at least Gilgamesh himself is affordable!
That's the important thing!
I can def proxy the rest of this
twilit canyon
what i recommend, is first make sure you can use proxies
second, ask if a decklist like this would be good against a frequent play group you'd have
then, if you get any specific favorite cards out of this list, those are the ones you'd buy first
quiet edge
Sure thing
twilit canyon
besides gilgamesh since thats your interest here
sudden lava
also @quiet edge see if your LGS has a commander night, easiest way to make new friends and get some games in
glad peak
Btw if they have a commander night and it’s an actual event then they’re most likely not going to allow proxies
sudden lava
depends on the store
golden plover
Cool new print to demand lair featuring Latino artists
Although lol the article's first line uses "latinx"
copper pecan
i like that these are all good cards
subtle sierra
holy i like this
fallow citrus
bro is lost
glad peak
I know it’s a separate set but I wish get lost would’ve given a clue token
golden plover
Unfortunately these are for one event in San Fran
stark skiff
https://magic.wizards.com/en/news/announcements/secret-lair-x-nalac-nuestra-magi...
Expressive Iteration art goes hard
sudden lava
oh @quiet edge Im a dummy. I was talking about grouphug but forgot to mention we got 2 new grouphug legendaries in the FF stuff
Tataru in particularly looks to be really good
gritty nest
I’m thinking of adding Tataru to bumble flower
past socket
If I had a nickel for everytime some white legends from a UB were surprisingly neat for group hug strats. I’d have 2 nickels, which isn’t a lot but it’s weird that it happened twice
First time was [[Yes Man]]
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: Target opponent gains control of Yes Man. When they do, you draw two cards and put a quest counter on Yes Man. Activate only during your turn.
Wild Card — When Yes Man leaves the battlefield, its owner creates a tapped 1/1 white Soldier creature token for each quest counter on it.
2/2
storm elbow
oh <@1252735289282007132> Im a dummy. I was talking about grouphug but forgot to...
Would you say that zidane is also a grouphug card?
sudden lava
Would you say that zidane is also a grouphug card?
Yeah I've seen people are building Zidane as grouphug so definitely
Zidane definitely would go into Zedruu lists
storm elbow
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The (literal) GOAT
quiet edge
Moogles!
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Ready to give you some great deals on Pyromancer’s Swathes, kupo
languid quest
I do wonder why they gave lalafels dwarf typing
imo kithkin might had been more suitable for them
glad peak
I wish they were all 1 mana and red
I can be trusted with more 1 mana Red dwarves, I swear
storm elbow
to combo with [[Giott, King of the Dwarves]], clearly
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glad peak
Of course, nothing else
storm elbow
oh sorry, i meant to reply to the question as to why the lalafel are dwarves
glad peak
Giott is red too, no excuse 
sudden lava
so ready to get these promos this month
trail anvil
shit I want this framed
quiet edge
Man, Final Fantasy's Dwarves are just the best
languid quest
lali-ho
glad peak
wow we actually got no mono red dwarves but did get red hybrid dwarves
quiet edge
Also, Firion is a dwarf... for some reason?
He is seemingly a reprint of some other card, but seeing "Dwarf Advisor" on the card is funny
twilit canyon
no way
trail anvil
la chancla 
gritty nest
What are some funny obscure cards that would work for [[!Yshtola, Nights Blessed]]?
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trail anvil
[[pnemonic deluge]]
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gritty nest
Oh yeah, the copies will trigger Yshtola won’t they?
trail anvil
yep
this card is a meme in current commander but if you resolve it it's time to have fun
gritty nest
What would you resolve with it?
broken fjord
Time Warp if you want to be boring
twilit canyon
a lot of free cast spells work well with her
things like fierce guardianship
gush
fow
fon
deadly rollick
gritty nest
[[gush]]
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glad peak
But is it actually flat?
vivid hatch
But is it actually flat? <:NyanGun:737367109805408306>
not quite i assume
but i have a humidity packet
that i will use
to make it so
glad peak
It is no longer marsh flats, it is now marsh curves
sleek ferry
$190? Damn the dragon scales are up there
vivid hatch
$190? Damn the dragon scales are up there
and thats a bargain
check the lowest listing on tcgplayer
sudden lava
https://youtu.be/SQy3PYT1Ubk for some non precon gameplay, Rebell uploaded an LGS 2v2 commander game
zinc shard
||Damn the Josh hate is crazy in this video lol||
languid quest
why are they hating Josh?
sudden lava
Josh on blue
languid quest
Y'shtola is my cat girl queen
besides Jacob is on blue as well so hate towards Josh is just stupid
gritty nest
Yshtola is the deck I’m picking up ultimately
languid quest
same
then again it also helps that I don't currently have esper deck
I try not to have several decks with same color combination
gritty nest
I only have 1 esper deck atm, Aminatou
languid quest
I used to have Aminatou but I needed cards from it to Chulane
past socket
Ah Chulane, Teller of Tales and wanted by the Hague for crimes against humanity
languid quest
Chulane is one of 3 decks that I have that were build from ground up and not used precons as base
other two being my beloved Kaalia and mon-white angels (I have lot of angels okay)
glad peak
probably the better way to build decks, precons are very meh
languid quest
to be fair my precon upgrades are always heavy handed to point that not many precon cards tend to remain
glad peak
as it should
languid quest
only best ones can stay while jank goes
stark skiff
$190? Damn the dragon scales are up there
That guy is rich
past socket
Lot of angles
zinc shard
Midweek Magic was a free draft so decided to have some fun
easy 3-0
Also Draft Token in the Daily Deals
stark skiff
atomic harness
Any bracket fans in chat
past socket
Wanna mess with a colourless commander, any recommendations?
glad peak
Liberator
languid quest
Eldrazi
glad peak
Eldrazi’s big creature slop, instead play on your opponent’s turn
golden plover
Just dropped a Foundations Kaito ult against Jeskai control. Felt so good to watch them realize they couldn't tear my board apart after that
gritty nest
https://archidekt.com/decks/11389637/saheeli_radiant_creator
can I realistically use Virtue of Knowledge and Mirror Room//Fractured Realm effectively here?
past socket
Oh so Ultima is like Eluge but for colourless
past socket
Honestly something like Liberator or Karn seems more appealing to me personally
glad peak
Yep liberator’s fun
past socket
Also some of the stuff that apparently see played in colourless feels quite flavourful with Liberator like with the Tron Lands
gritty nest
LGS announced pricing on the FF stuff. $100 a precon
sudden lava
Gamestop is doing $80 for the precons
gritty nest
If only those existed near me
lusty trench
LGS announced pricing on the FF stuff. $100 a precon
Jesus
Incredibly neat set of promos
sudden lava
Some small foil pickups
gritty nest
how good is [[!Ultimate Magic: Holy]]?
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stark skiff
For the fangirls
past socket
the little guy!
sudden lava
The lethal cheerios man
stark skiff
https://tenor.com/view/friends-joey-tribbiani-not-a-cat-matt-le-blanc-gif-773544...
Lmao the cat did look exactly like this in that episode
sudden lava
cuz same breed, but yeah
zinc shard
how good is [[!Ultimate Magic: Holy]]?
Its fine, not better then Teferi's Protection
rigid scarab
Its fine, not better then Teferi's Protection
I’d say it isn’t better than a good number of instant speed board protection
gritty nest
My friend is annoyed with me
gritty nest
didnt realize i didnt say why
because i end up getting the strongest precon out of each set
fallow citrus
just saw the ff cards at locals and they look so much better than the preview images
someone had a full art foil ambrosia and that card is gorgeous
sleek ferry
just saw the ff cards at locals and they look so much better than the preview im...
Yeah, especially the specific cg art ones
They look 10x better in person than the previews
fallow citrus
1000%
lusty trench
~~didnt realize i didnt say why~~
because i end up getting the strongest precon...
14 this time then?
Pulled a full art water crystal foil
Lovely
sleek ferry
Now that’s siiiiick
fallow citrus
sheeesh nice
trail anvil
fml should've booked a prerelease in advance, everything's understandably sold out 😭
broken fjord
golden plover
Damn, good misprint
broken fjord
Not sure if I should sell it.
stark skiff
I got a dollar for it
glad peak
I can do tree fiddy
golden plover
Went 3-0 at prerelease
Tbh, this deck built itself
Notable rares and mythics from the packs
Apparently that Y'shtola is $100??
stark skiff
I’m glad to see the prices falling. I’m hoping the sealed product follows suit. No way is a sealed collector box worth 800 right now.
golden plover
Ah, I was told it's like $100, but mine is also the foil
Yeah foil is like $90 presale
gritty nest
itll most likely drop like a rock post presale
gritty nest
I’m glad to see the prices falling. I’m hoping the sealed product follows suit. ...
pretty sure wotc announced theyre gonna print the non collector stuff into the ground
golden plover
itll most likely drop like a rock post presale
1000%
Trying to sell it before then lol
stark skiff
pretty sure wotc announced theyre gonna print the non collector stuff into the g...
but my foils 
past socket
As I understand it presale prices just tend to be wack all round
So excited for Golbez
molten scaffold
How expensive was yalls prereleases? Mine was like 45 dollars for entry
stark skiff
50, for three around me
some were sold out already
one spot near me had 103 players
past socket
Wonder if it’ll be similar, TDM pre-release was 50 in my currency
glad peak
It should be more expensive than tdm by a decent amount
trail anvil
both of mine were completely sold out, but I should've expected that
molten scaffold
Mine wasnt sold out only like 12 people showed up
Mtg is such a whiplash from yugioh though as a first experience
It was fun! But overwhelming
glad peak
Oh yep it’s a much more complicated base system
The more you play it though the easier the entire game becomes
subtle sierra
Ngl when i first played mtg it felt comparable to ygo
Complexity wise
I did try to apply ygo logic to crew and lost because of it 
Applying ritual logic of "you can't overtribute for this" to crew is inadvisable 
Opponent had 1 life, i had a guy that does 1 on tap, but he had like 3 power, and i had a crew 1 vehicle
I figured I can't crew here
molten scaffold
im surprised theres no crew reminder text, which is annoying
subtle sierra
I borrowed a deck and i think that rarity didn't have the text
molten scaffold
ah yeah that gets annoying. but some of the vehicles I saw just had "crew 2" or "crew 1" in which I had someone explain it to me that its based off power of a card
subtle sierra
Yeah they usually put explanations on other evergreen stuff like scry
Not on crew tho
Or haste i think
molten scaffold
haste is self-explanatory
I think crew is more recent in like aetherdrift, and I would assume that WoTC in their infinite wisdom just thought to not put crew reminder text on some of the cards
fallow citrus
nah crew is an evergreen mechanic from like og kaladesh
sudden lava
Budget Tifa tech
redirect one of the damage to your own face 
you are a player after all
sudden lava
9 mana for one combat seems a bit silly even for budget
3 mana, how you getting 9?
sudden lava
Gotcha
gritty nest
Pulled a traveling chocobo from a single play booster
worthy rose
I do not play MTG, but are there any more arts as cool as Emrakul, the Promised End?
copper pecan
personally i really like this
banger art to use on a random uncommon
a lot of the cards in mystical archive look really pretty
rigid scarab
I do not play MTG, but are there any more arts as cool as Emrakul, the Promised ...
Like, more eldritch horror?
If it's just "cool art" MTG has no shortage of those
worthy rose
Large scale, creative monster designs
worthy rose
If it's just "cool art" MTG has no shortage of those
Give it here
rigid scarab
Eldrazi in general might suit your fancy then
It's like Emrakul in large scale freaks of "nature"
copper pecan
[[sheoldred the apocalypse]]
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worthy rose
Flayer, Sire, and Ulalek do it for me
rigid scarab
If you really wanna stretch Sire
It costs 7, is a 7/7, has 7 keywords, has Ward 7, has Seven in its name, and its flavour text has 14 words, a number divisible by 7
That's 7 references to the number 7
worthy rose
Ooh
copper pecan
[[nemesis of reason]]
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rigid scarab
[[Arvinox, the Mind Flail]]
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worthy rose
[[nemesis of reason]]
This is a good monster, but what's it got to do with reason?
rigid scarab
It's reason's nemesis
past socket
HORROR!
past socket
SICK
lusty trench
The villain of the pod pulled one too, and knights of the round, and buster sword, and masamune
My partner eeked a tie out of the first round against them and that cleared the way for me to full sweep everyone
past socket
I would kill for the alt of Golbez, Crystal Collector /j
Jokes aside it is really cool
lusty trench
Bro has aura
sudden lava
need a copy of this badly, this would go so hard in my pearl-ear deck
stark skiff
Today’s foil pickups
copper pecan
thinking about the clue lands like [[kitchen]]
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past socket
Probably far better in a more clue focused deck but still way worse than pther duals otherwise
glad peak
It’s still incredibly bad in clue focused decks ngl
past socket
Oh I meant more ways to use clues but you’re likely right
Like sacking them for Lonis or Tamiyo’s Journal or turning them into creatures
zinc shard
[[Magnifying Glass]]
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Artifact
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, : Investigate. (Create a Clue token. It's an artifact with ", Sacrifice this token: Draw a card.")
"These footprints mean only one thing: the streetcleaner is running late!" —Argyle, Agency junior detective
zinc shard
Bro just searched "Sacrifice" and put every card that popped up into their deck
atomic harness
@stark skiff hi kid whats the closest thing black has to [[rhystic study]] or [[smothering tithe]]
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Enchantment
Whenever an opponent draws a card, that player may pay . If the player doesn't, you create a Treasure token. (It's an artifact with ", Sacrifice this token: Add one mana of any color.")
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atomic harness
opp agent / obm? 
stark skiff
opp agent / obm? <:ICANT:922503228241895464>
Wow kid literally forgot Necropotence exists
gritty nest
[[Necropotence]] [[necrodominance]] [[greed]] [[Arguel's Blood Fist]]
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What is a sliver of one's soul compared to unimaginable wealth?
gritty nest
[[Arguel's Blood Fast]]
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At the beginning of your upkeep, if you have 5 or less life, you may transform Arguel's Blood Fast.
Arguel's vision led him into the jungles of Ixalan . . .
Temple of Aclazotz
Legendary Land
(Transforms from Arguel's Blood Fast.)
: Add .
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. . . to the lost temple of a bat-god of night, eternal enemy to the Threefold Sun.
lusty trench
Me waiting for vivis to drop because the card is fun but not £25 fun
sleek ferry
25 doesn’t sound that bad
At least starting town is sub 15, hoping it falls under 10
sleek ferry
trail anvil
At least starting town is sub 15, hoping it falls under 10
there's no way, yeah? I figure this card should realistically shoot back up to $40
it's predestined to be a crazy spellslinger commander
sleek ferry
there's no way, yeah? I figure this card should realistically shoot back up to $...
Vivi might fall to 30ish usd would be my guess, but yeah, the card is destined to be 40+
Unless it just sucks ass on all levels
trail anvil
there's genuinely zero way yeah? can be abused with flicker, the mana he produces is unrestricted, he himself deals damage for curiosity interaction and just general progressing
at the absolute minimum he's obvious bracket 4 material
lusty trench
Issue is cedh doesnt always correlate with money
Powerful generics do but commanders are hit or miss
With how hes in standard and going to be printed for a while i wouldnt be surprised if he hit £10-15
lusty trench
Oh shit hes standard playable too?
lusty trench
Little wizard is going places
twilit canyon
granted, the card can always fizzle out as flavor of the month combo
but theres a lot going for vivi
lusty trench
His dad would be so pr- eh actually he wouldnt but I am
I'm happy that sephiroth is a lot of fun
Idk how good he is but hes easy enough to flip at least
trail anvil
izzet nadu /s
lusty trench
Bit sad the collector sample packs cant be in set cards anymore
past socket
Had a bit of a fun concept fpr an Azorius Artifact deck. Tameshi, Reality Architect with a Hidden Commander in The Reality Chip.
trail anvil
I was thinking about getting some FF collector packs but my LGS was selling them at $80 (eighty) each. is this a common occurrence? 😭
lusty trench
Not uncommon sadly
Allocations for collectors has been abysmal and there's not gonna be a reprint
Your lgs want the bag more than it wants to sell at Msrp sadly
trail anvil
jesus I was so certain they said "eighteen" cause it would be reasonable. I knew final fantasy was popular but this is batshit
golden plover
A regular collector booster msrps at $30
This set is $45 MSRP
But... $80 is about average
lapis viper
I was thinking about getting some FF collector packs but my LGS was selling them...
Yeesh and here I was thinking I was gonna cop some ff stuff and try to get back into magic
I've never played commander, seems like it's fun
golden plover
The commander decks are also likely to be $100+ baseline rn
lapis viper
What's MSRP on them?
trail anvil
yeah and that's not just raw hype, the commander decks' msrp was priced higher than normal
$70 for the regular, $150 for the collector edition
lapis viper
What's the difference between the two?
trail anvil
normal commander decks are $45 msrp btw iirc
lapis viper
Oh wth
That's crazy they jump the MSRP almost double
Only experience I have with seeing any of those is the fallout decks were 60 at Walmart,I think
sudden lava
Im so glad gamestop for once is being reasonable, only 80 for the precons
No preorder though, first come first serve
lapis viper
I honestly feel like with how many GameStop's I got I should be able to waltz into one and pick one up
Is there a play style guide for each of the decks?
When I played magic a couple years ago I ran a ghalta ramp
So I kinda like aggro play styles, but also idk how it works in commander with multiple opps
waxen timber
Terra Precon: Self mill and Reaminate monsters with low power
twilit canyon
So I kinda like aggro play styles, but also idk how it works in commander with m...
it doesnt really
aggro in commander is giga ass
waxen timber
Cloud Precon: Use equipments to make things big and swing out
lusty trench
Tidas: 1/1 counters baybee
Cloud: equipment baybee
Yshtola: ...honestly this deck is all over the place but its somehow the best one, just cast spells
Terra: self mill reanimate baybee
lapis viper
aggro in commander is giga ass
I figured as much
lusty trench
Terra is probably the worst out of the box but that's mainly because it just doesnt have many good reanimation targets, the commander does what the deck style wants and fairly decently
Cloud is next for same reason and that there a millions of better ways to build equipment
lapis viper
I see so basically tidus or yshtola are worth using
lusty trench
Yshtola/tidus are probably best out of the box, tidus is fairly simple 1/1 counters stuff and yshtola just has a lot of pretty decent cards in casual commander
Id say don't get one if you cant get them for msrp though
lapis viper
What's MSRP on a booster box?
Idk if there's anything really worth pulling but I did see a couple alt arts that looked really good
trail anvil
the prices actually seemed not great on most things tbh
trail anvil
What's MSRP on a booster box?
I think $150ish?
lusty trench
Worth noting that this set is wild for its variability in what you can open to get value
I've seen 2 mythic boxes
I've seen 10 mythic boxes
Iirc highest value you can pull from the play boosters is in alt art foils, especially vivi
atomic harness
Hi kids how good is [[enduring curiosity]]
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sleek ferry
All the enduring cards are decent-good
Worse one being the black one which still had an otk combo
glad peak
it's fine, the green one is the best one
golden plover
The red one is AWFUL
glad peak
also it's format dependent
glad peak
standard the best one is blue and edh the best one is green
sleek ferry
The red one is fine, there’s just no reason to play non aggro red decks right now
glad peak
can't remember what white does but black and red are just real bad (yes even with the black combo)
sleek ferry
can't remember what white does but black and red are just real bad (yes even wit...
Draws
golden plover
I mean, the red one just gives your guys haste
Cool, I'll just chump them
Or take the damage
glad peak
oh that one, yeah it's pretty good
sleek ferry
Haste and +2, so you can’t chump with most x/5 creatures
golden plover
Blue is also the best because of flash and enabling itself
I mean, that's still really bad compared to the others
sleek ferry
But yes, blue is the best
golden plover
It's what? A 4 mana card
glad peak
more specifically, which format are we talking about
golden plover
In standard blue is the best
atomic harness
Could you pull up the other ones
sleek ferry
[[enduring vitality]] [[enduring innocence]] [[enduring tenacity]] [[enduring courage]]
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Creatures you control have ": Add one mana of any color."
When Enduring Vitality dies, if it was a creature, return it to the battlefield under its owner's control. It's an enchantment. (It's not a creature.)
3/3
sleek ferry
@atomic harness
atomic harness
why is the sheep so understatted
sleek ferry
wdym
oh
under statted
well, it's a good blocker
and you don't care if it dies
since its just value
atomic harness
sleek ferry
trading with it is usually always in your favor
3/1 might have been a little too good for standard
atomic harness
all I can imagine is grandlamb
sleek ferry
grandlamb? innocent?
golden plover
Apparently we have a new SL bug to skip the queue
Put an old lair item in your cart and then it lets you jump to the top of queue
sleek ferry
nope
lapis viper
@twilit canyon ok so how does Commander work
lapis viper
Do you just pick a creature and get to have him on board at the start of the game for free
sleek ferry
the format is fine
twilit canyon
nope, you have to cast your commander
lapis viper
Or like can you kill them lol
twilit canyon
they start in the command zone
and yeah, they can die afterwards
and they cost more to cast
lapis viper
Interesting
sleek ferry
it's magic but you have a command zone. your commander starts there and you can cast it at anytime
sleek ferry
also you got to deal with 3 players stopping you from winning as opposed to just 1
so a lot of it is convincing people you're not the immediate threat
twilit canyon
against a good portion of the population, this is a huge source of frustration. on top of it being hard to gauge power levels
commander really only works with close friends
sleek ferry
the big disconnect is that, let's say you're remotely recognized as the best player at the table = you'll get ganged up on, say you have a commander that's universally hated = you'll get ganged up on
commanders full potential only shows once you have a dedicated playgroup
or if you play cedh
glad peak
Yeah, playing commander with randoms is the worst format in the game but with friends with varying skill levels it’s a bunch of non-games
sleek ferry
but i wouldn't recommend that for new players
twilit canyon
even then i argue that its really not that great
glad peak
Cedh is the best way to play with randoms
sleek ferry
most of the time. you still find people who don't know how their cards are supposed to work in cedh
glad peak
Commander in general I would not suggest for your first format
It skews the way you learn the game with a lot of bad info and if you try to play anything else it’ll be a huge culture shock moment
sleek ferry
also optimally passing prio so somebody else uses their counter spell/removal to deal with an issue is a really bad habit
trail anvil
commander is a social game. if your locals is bad the game's gonna be bad for you
if you have a good locals you're gonna have a good time socializing
sudden lava
Do you just pick a creature and get to have him on board at the start of the gam...
Your commander (A legendary creature that dictates the colors allowed in your deck) starts in what's called the command zone. Whenever it would be exiled/bounced/dies you can optionally return it to the command zone. Every time you do so costs 2 more then the last (so first is base cost, 2nd cast is (2)+base , third is (4)+base and so on)
Your life starts at 40, your deck is 99 singleton (besides any basics you run), and there is typically 3 opponents
If you manage to deal 21 or more combat damage over the course of the game to a single opponent with your commander, that player loses immediately (Commander damage).
Do note the commander still activates any "if this card dies" triggers
sudden lava
And the tax for casting from command zone is only command zone in case you find it in your hand somehow or cast it from the GY somehow
sleek ferry
Cedh is just optimized commander
As in, every deck is built to get to its wincon as fast as possible
glad peak
Oh socializing’s the easy part but when when it comes to commander in locals it usually starts well then someone gets salty
twilit canyon
cedh is by far the most fun way to play commander
glad peak
Always happens
sudden lava
Vs regular
cEDH (competitive elder dragon highlander) is sweaty all highest power only
where as regular ranges from low to medium power
glad peak
Correction: regular always STARTS at low to medium power
twilit canyon
theres no given set on power level even with brackets
glad peak
It always goes higher and higher as you get more experienced
twilit canyon
and power is extremely inconsistent from table to table
glad peak
Cedh is just the limit and the limit is where you find consistently good tables and balance
sudden lava
ok to be fair, Misty is right on high but saying medium in like comparison. If we're saying low to high then cEDH is like extra high.
twilit canyon
cedh is often way more chill and casual than casual
glad peak
Unfortunately cedh is also demonized by people who don’t know what cedh is (went to a pretty casual shop yesterday for prerelease and overheard some egregious stuff)
twilit canyon
commander as a whole may have been the biggest mistake to market and popularize in all of magic's history
glad peak
Correct and based
sudden lava
Third side is just a token it makes 🧠
subtle sierra
pogger mobius loop
twilit canyon
"wonder what the eldrazi are up to"
the illegitimate and speculative sneak-peak mobius loop eldrazi"
copper pecan
https://commandersherald.com/edge-of-eternities-introduces-new-3-sided-eldrazi/
we already know how triple sided cards work since wotc did them in duel masters
you unfold them
sudden lava
I wonder if my bracket 1 mono-red alien deck concept will get anything in the space set (Surely they will)
lapis viper
Interesting
I've heard eldrazi before and it sounds fun
Don't they do like game state warpy kinda shit and have huge bodies
twilit canyon
eh okay as cool as they do look, i gotta knock points off
they dont get nearly creative as they could with the mechanics of eldrazi cards as they could for how alien the are supposed to be
sleek ferry
If you think about it, kozilek was Talion 0.5
hidden ermine
They're too normal yeah
YGO has an advantage here, but it's nice how even gameplay wise Infernoids feel very distinct from normal cards
fallow citrus
cedh is often way more chill and casual than casual
big true, everyone goes in knowing exactly what they want instead of arguing about power levels etc
rigid scarab
big true, everyone goes in knowing exactly what they want instead of arguing abo...
If I wanna give the best analogy I can
Cedh is a Magic The Gathering format
Casual EDH is a board game
glad peak
tbh cedh is still a board game
still wouldn't really call it a format
tbf i don't see cube as a real format either but it's so much more enjoyable than some mtg formats
rigid scarab
still wouldn't really call it a format
Closer to a format than casual edh
One of the two has people running tournaments for money
(Despite some controversies)
glad peak
True but so does casual edh
Not as high profile but there are more local shops doing it
rigid scarab
I wouldn't really count those
And those obviously aren't meant to be taken seriously
Cedh for tournaments does want to be taken seriously
People are starting to coin Tedh now
gritty nest
Casual edge tournaments with prizing don’t exist
The second you add form of the word tournament and potentially prizing, its play to win, not play for fun
glad peak
Casual edh tournaments definitely exist, especially if there are side rules on how to get more points and no proxies
trail anvil
I just think edh isn't a tournament format in general
glad peak
It really isn’t even with a tournament structure or points
The points system rn is just so bad with the amount of yapping going on
That’s actually an interesting idea, no yapping or limited yapping cedh
Only deck strength, only player decisions
rigid scarab
Only deck strength, only player decisions
At that point you're just playing poker
glad peak
Nah you can yap in poker
rigid scarab
EDH is a social format both in and out of the game
glad peak
So is poker tbh
rigid scarab
Like a game of cedh where you basically have to soul read opponents to see if they have answers or are going to go for a win combo
Even moreso than before
Doesn't really sound interesting to me
glad peak
You could do it like with poker, where decision player must finalize a decision on a clock, which helps with when poker had yap or time issues
rigid scarab
Chess clocks in paper cedh sounds like a nightmare
Also I'm going to just interchange "yap" and "politic" here
lusty trench
Poker players still call clock the same way players call for a judge for slow play
rigid scarab
Idk limiting the ability to talk in a game of EDH to me just sounds like it's making it more bare
Without really adding any strategic elements
glad peak
Not chess clock, poker clock, very different things
glad peak
Poker players still call clock the same way players call for a judge for slow pl...
Yep but with a timer bank system it’s a lot easier to determine warnings + DQ, as well as you being able to burn timers if you want (like how poker players use it)
It’s not a great idea but forcing someone to make a decision is needed
sleek ferry
I just think edh isn't a tournament format in general
Should be noted Cedh and tedh are vastly different
Optimizing for a tournament vs optimizing for playing vs a group of buds is completely different
Tedh takes time into account when deckbuilding
You also eliminate more than half of the cedh viable commanders from the viable pool in tedh
Unless you think a niche strategy has an advantage in the specific meta
Like, I’m frankly not bringing etali to a tournament if given the choice
lapis viper
Are jp cards even playable
sleek ferry
Are jp cards even playable
Yes
lapis viper
Neato
sleek ferry
You can play with this bad boy all you want
lapis viper
So how does the pre release stuff work
Can you only buy it the day of
Or is it low stock they usually sell out of
lapis viper
You can play with this bad boy all you want
This art is crazy
sleek ferry
For prerelease, locals would still sell you the prerelease kits if they have some left over even after prerelease weekend. But the way this set has been selling, I’d be shocked if you found any tbh
lusty trench
20 dollars then is about 48 now, I'm not sure if there is a base treatment of any single meta standard card that's worth 48 dollars
Vivi might be cutting it close?
gritty nest
That’s actually an interesting idea, no yapping or limited yapping cedh
sEDH
Silent EDH
sleek ferry
20 dollars then is about 48 now, I'm not sure if there is a base treatment of an...
Sheoldred was like $60+ no?
lusty trench
True
zinc shard
sEDH
Silent EDH
No talking, people just use these to indicate targets
lusty trench
And it’s probably the weakest its ever been
Tbh i think its mainly because dominaria united doesnt have much in the way of other valuable pulls so sheoldred has to carry the weight of the set
The next biggest is what timeless lotus at like £6
sleek ferry
Tbh i think its mainly because dominaria united doesnt have much in the way of o...
Eh, it’s not as if we haven’t seen sets that were completely worthless
lusty trench
Its more so that the set isnt worthless purely because of sheoldred
sleek ferry
In terms of value of course, I feel like all sets have playable cards in them if you try hard enough
copper pecan
if it weren't for sheoldred dmu would have probably gone the way of dragon's maze where you can get the whole set for less than $100
most of the good cards in dmu are commons or uncommons like [[tear away]]
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copper pecan
[[tear asunder]]
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Instant
Kicker (You may pay an additional as you cast this spell.)
Exile target artifact or enchantment. If this spell was kicked, exile target nonland permanent instead.
No one knew why the spiritmongers were so enraged by Phyrexian technology, but it was a stroke of good luck for the Coalition.
lusty trench
Can't forget leyline binding
Remember when everyone thought this was gonna be the second coming of christ
trail anvil
I do not
copper pecan
enlist was a fun mechanic
sleek ferry
Remember when everyone thought this was gonna be the second coming of christ
I remember us saying this was 1 mana too much
To be playable
glad peak
it's a very fun cube card but red 3 drops are already so packed
glad peak
for cube?
sleek ferry
Oh I was standard minded mb
lusty trench
My lgs is doing a draft for ff on Friday and I just have the feeling the set doesnt lend itself well to it but ive had that feeling since play boosters were a thing
glad peak
i don't like ff as a draft set tbh
it's literally just bombs.set
just get as many bad removal spells as you can and stall out until you get your bombs
glad peak
the classes are pretty alright because you're likely to want blockers and you can re-equip very easily
the dragoon one + any bomb is pretty much game over
lusty trench
X atm won me my prerelease
glad peak
flyers are way too good in the set
lusty trench
Blue feels like shit to play tbh in the set
glad peak
i landed atraxa and that was game over
blue is really bad here
red black or white green might be best
lusty trench
I felt so bad for anyone who opened from father to son as a rare
[[From father to son]]
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Search your library for a Vehicle card, reveal it, and put it into your hand. If this spell was cast from a graveyard, put that card onto the battlefield instead. Then shuffle.
Flashback 
(You may cast this card from your graveyard for its flashback cost. Then exile it.)
glad peak
don't worry about your curve either, just jam bombas
lusty trench
Black mages staff and honestly any thing that makes wizards goes hard af this set
Shadow wizard money gang
We love casting spells
sudden lava
Shelob's robot baby
storm elbow
ff should go live on arena later today, right?
golden plover
Yeah, around noon EST
storm elbow
gotcha
tardy echo
I have succumbed to microtransactions… @sleek ferry
twilit canyon
i have the whole set crafted more or less thanks to my stockpiled resources
tardy echo
I’m still trying to figure out what set I should be pulling from
I sort of feel like aetherdrift is prob my best option because of the verges but idk
sleek ferry
Did you already use all the codes for free packs?
tardy echo
They auto redeem
tardy echo
Also randomly just pulled liliana general 
Pretty sure I have like 60% of the Elspeth deck I yoinked now
twilit canyon
dreadhorde general is so sweet
tardy echo
Should I use gems on packs or is there something else that I’m missing
Idc about cosmetics
twilit canyon
draft
sleek ferry
Draft yeah
twilit canyon
though nowdays, its pretty competitive to go sets
tardy echo
Any in particular
twilit canyon
latest draft more often than not
tho as i said, nowdays thanks to gold packs, buying packs from the store is pretty competitive as a rate
sleek ferry
Quick draft is less gems but is bo1, traditional is more gems but is bo3
Up to you what you prefer
tardy echo
Frankly I despise playing draft
sleek ferry
So then just use it on gems lol
tardy echo
Sigh ok I guess
sleek ferry
I do maybe 1-2 drafts a set just to get my fix in
tardy echo
I really do not enjoy any type of draft gameplay
twilit canyon
i used to hate it, but grew to love it
that said, i havent loved the latest few draft formats
despite them being good
twilit canyon
the boros lightning or the mono red?
i think the red lightning is a good card
idk if it'll see play
but she is good
twilit canyon
boros is a great card with no home rn
tardy echo
Ya
Sure!!
Funeral room seems kinda stinky but Kaito is cool
Well I hate kaito but he’s good
twilit canyon
valgavoth's onslaught is another great card with no home rn
tardy echo
Feel like golgari could maybe play it no?
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twilit canyon
which cant cast onslaught unfort
tardy echo
Also eldraine is rotating out right
zinc shard
I just made the Tifa Landfall deck LegenVD posted earlier, its working pretty well so far
twilit canyon
Also eldraine is rotating out right
i believe the rotating sets are dominaria united, brothers war, all will be one, march of the machines, and aftermath
tardy echo
Grahhh
I want an excuse to not have to craft virtue of persistence
I guess I’ll just send it
tardy echo
Or my bad
Loyalty
Not persistence
I crafted loyalty and subbed persistence for something else
tardy echo
Seems more important for what the deck wants to actually do
twilit canyon
yeah definitely
though i have a vague idea of the deck you are playing, i have a feeling its an orzhov caretakers talent pile
which yeah 100%
golden plover
Okay actually this feels real
Raise the Past combo needed something and this is much better than Amalia
This also wins through them taking out our graveyard
But there's very little grave hate and even less counterspells rn
Obviously RIP hurts but vacuum doesn't do anything
lusty trench
Number 5: sepharioth
Sephiroth just as easy to flip in 1v1 formats as it is in commander?
sleek ferry
Steiner is also kinda nice
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Legendary Creature — Human Rebel Warrior
Equipped creatures you control have haste.
Whenever a nontoken Equipment you control enters, create a token that's a copy of it, except it has "This Equipment's equip abilities cost less to activate." Sacrifice that token at the beginning of the next upkeep.
3/3
sleek ferry
is crazy
golden plover
Just ran into prowess with the new equipment... Yeah maybe something's gotta get hit there
sleek ferry
Alright that’s enough fun for today
I’m going to kill my brain optimizing boros equipment
twilit canyon
its already optimized
4 freya, 4 cloud
2-4 buster swords
4 rebel salvo
4 chainsaw
i solved chocobos too and the game servers crashed
cant make this up
tardy echo
Holy ok glad it wasn’t just me
I beat a guy playing the simulacrum combo thing and he got incredibly salty and then my game crashed
Gave me the wrong idea
Fuck that deck btw makes me so hateful
trail anvil
sorry I was infinite comboing with urza and I forgot my aetherflux reservoir
subtle sierra
respect the artifacts
trail anvil
it's my fault the servers crashed /s
sleek ferry
4 freya, 4 cloud
alright good, I thought I was crazy for thinking 4 freya
tardy echo
simulacrum is cool
Fuck u
twilit canyon
it's my fault the servers crashed /s
it was me actually
i hit some 500 thousand odd triggers of landfall in one go
my game crashed
tardy echo
Maybe id respect the deck if every single person I’ve played against on it wasn’t an asshole
trail anvil
I'm ngl I wouldn't be surprised if all the new landfall stuff overloaded the servers in actuality
tardy echo
Currently making me download 13mb of something
trail anvil
not to mention all the busted commanders they just casually introduced into brawl
twilit canyon
alright good, I thought I was crazy for thinking 4 freya
freya is a mana dork for equips ppl are crazy if they wouldnt run her as a 4 of lol
tardy echo
Anyways this deck is sick as fuck
twilit canyon
she carries equips super well too
tardy echo
[[freya]]
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tardy echo
Die
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Legendary Creature — Rat Knight
Jump — During your turn, Freya Crescent has flying.
: Add . Spend this mana only to cast an Equipment spell or activate an equip ability.
"We live not to forget our past, but to learn from it!"
1/1
sleek ferry
yeah, getting accelerated a turn in equipment just feels massive
trail anvil
apparently we've hit the all-time peak on steam on arena
I guess the servers genuinely couldn't handle this influx of players
twilit canyon
yeah literally
copper pecan
makes sense
copper pecan
this is probably the single most successful set ever