Magic the Gathering

[past socket]

plenty of cheaper Eldrazi for those sort of shenanigans

and yes annhilator 12 being incredibly redundant no matter how funny it is

[gritty nest]

oh Mudkip

i did the thing and added more creatures to minotaurs

its at like 28? now

[glad peak]

Huh idk why but I remembered you had 33 and was debating adding more

[gritty nest]

that might have been a different deck

Minotaurs had 23 minotaurs, 25 total creatures

[lusty trench]

https://www.moxfield.com/decks/ANLir1oPFUCdYzktw6H86g

You might notice that my average without lands is >5, and that I'm not running expensive mana rocks

This is because I am not a coward

[past socket]

Me when I’m gorging on the void

[lusty trench]

Mirror box is there because multiple titans is funny

The deck did have mana crypt in it and one ring but I sold them both a month before the ban list announcement and I stand by my decision on the ring

(I also got rid of jeweled lotus and dockside at the same time)

[past socket]

Also kind of feel silly in feeling Academy Manufactor wasn’t all that great for a deck that makes loads of Treasure Tokens

Maybe I undervalue Clue and Food Tokens

[twilit canyon]

more resources is not bad

[gritty nest]

whats the deck?

[past socket]

Seeing Academy Manufactor in a Magda, Brazen Outlaw deck

But yeah really should’ve understood that resources are resources

[gritty nest]

[[Magda, Brazen Outlaw]]

[lost widget]

https://scryfall.com/card/khm/142/magda-brazen-outlaw

Magda, Brazen Outlaw <:mana1:292901508373282827><:manar:292901508796645397>

Legendary Creature — Dwarf Berserker
Other Dwarves you control get +1/+0.
Whenever a Dwarf you control becomes tapped, create a Treasure token.
Sacrifice five Treasures: Search your library for an artifact or Dragon card, put that card onto the battlefield, then shuffle.
2/1

[gritty nest]

true

manufactor goes hard in my food deck

since Sam reduces the cost of foods the treasures can basically pay for the foods cost

clues can be freely used as needed

[sudden lava]

Also known as Dwarves and the cars they drive the deck.

[past socket]

Dwarves committing vehicular homicide.dek

Usually from Magda adding combo enablers

[sudden lava]

Dwarves becoming part time Uber drivers to make money for Magda to spend on either death by gold waterfall or death by winged lizards

[past socket]

That seems to be cEDH to the level I understand it, combo setup go brrr

Usually enabling victory by Thassa’s Oracle

[zinc shard]

Draft is going well

[glad peak]

Magda doesn’t do thoracle

[past socket]

Thoracle is just the main one I’ve seen, obviously not for Magda

[glad peak]

But yeah Magda’s win is just a bunch of cards you can tutor with her that you’d use otherwise because they’re value pieces or stax pieces

Most prominent one is getting to the infinite tapped treasure state, grab barkform (if you didn’t already grab him), grab vexing bauble (if you don’t already have it), grab something that untaps whenever an artifact etbs (to make untapped treasures) and then just draw your deck by drawing 1 by 1 with bauble, returning it with barkform then fetching bauble with magda and then doing the same with lightning bolt but you draw the bolt with bauble

I guess that’s less obvious than the realmscorcher win which is just a manasink but requires you to play realmscorcher which is a dead card usually

[copper pecan]

[[realmscorcher]]

[lost widget]

https://scryfall.com/card/woe/145/realm-scorcher-hellkite

Realm-Scorcher Hellkite <:mana4:292901508712890379><:manar:292901508796645397><:manar:292901508796645397>

Creature — Dragon
Bargain (You may sacrifice an artifact, enchantment, or token as you cast this spell.)
Flying, haste
When Realm-Scorcher Hellkite enters, if it was bargained, add four mana in any combination of colors.
: Realm-Scorcher Hellkite deals 1 damage to any target.
4/6

[past socket]

Magic and it’s Hellkites smh

[glad peak]

Magda’s lightning bolt machine doesn’t get around rule of law though so there’s sometimes the use of the sniper card that deals 2 damage on channel

Magda’s a fascinating commander but not enough space for dead cards and adding more dead cards will pretty much make her less fun

[barren cairn]

Oh eldrazi talk

I have the mh3 precon and I wanna try to build around aslask but

It's definitely not much of an eldrazi commander and more of a experience commander

[golden plover]

https://magic.wizards.com/en/news/announcements/banned-and-restricted-december-16-2024

ONE RING BANNED

AMPED RAPTOR BANNED

JEGANTHA BANNED IN MODERN AND PIONEER

SPLINTER TWIN IS BACK

PSYCHIC FROG BANNED IN LEGACY

[rigid scarab]

I was hyped for the jegantha ban and then read the rest of the list

WAIT I HAD LIKE 3 PSYCHIC FROGS AND I DIDNT GET RID OF THEM FUUUUUUUUCK

[rigid scarab]

Mox Opal, GSZ, and Looting back in modern too

[golden plover]

Yeah the modern changes look good

[zinc shard]

💍 Ring Outdated, : 🦖 Raptor Overrated, 🕰️ Long Have We Waited, 👬 Twin Activated

[fallow citrus]

jegantha banned 😔

[copper pecan]

fuck companions, all my homies hate companions

[rigid scarab]

jegantha banned 😄

[golden plover]

I think it definitely shows companion was not a good mechanic when like 3/4ths are banned in modern now

[trail anvil]

I think the idea was cool but they really needed to make the restriction heavier

[copper pecan]

they're just gonna ban any companion that sees competitive play anywhere

they don't want people to use this mechanic

[trail anvil]

for example actually having a creature requirement on the cat companion lmao

[rigid scarab]

Just ban every companion in every non-edh format fuck it

[fallow citrus]

jegantha only died for energy's sins

[copper pecan]

i don't think there are a whole lot of restrictions that make sense for companion that don't just make the card absolute dogshit

[zinc shard]

Does anyone remember what Green Sun was banned for

[fallow citrus]

gsz in yawg is going to go hard

[rigid scarab]

Essentially was a do-everything

[trail anvil]

well that's my point, it shouldn't be a competitive mechanic. idk, I guess that makes it not good in the first place but when people do hippo decks in edh for example it seems like a respectable build around

[fallow citrus]

probably for the text on the card

the card is fucked

[rigid scarab]

Just a utility card that can get you anything the situation calls for

[fallow citrus]

but also like you could go t1 forest gsz grab dryad arbor

[golden plover]

Honestly at this point, they should just ban all the companions everywhere and get it over with lol

[rigid scarab]

Nah companions are cool in edh

[golden plover]

And change the rule exception in EDH on principle

[rigid scarab]

The deckbuilding restriction actually feels like a restriction

[golden plover]

I don't care they're fair there, they get to ignore the rule everything else has to follow

For that alone we should kill them lol

[trail anvil]

the one place where one companion can never be unbanned without a funky rule change lol

[golden plover]

You don't have a sideboard in EDH so why do companions get to ignore that

But yeah, you can tell that companions were designed around "commander in constructed formats" but they just didn't do enough restrictions and they're all slowly getting banned everywhere lol

[rigid scarab]

All this talk about companions

[trail anvil]

cause when you see obosh in edh I think that's pretty cool

[rigid scarab]

When ONE RING IS BANNED 🎉 🎉 🎉

[golden plover]

I mean, I've played against Vial Smasher Sakashima Obosh and that was fun

[trail anvil]

🦀🦀🦀🦀

[fallow citrus]

might actually play modern again

[golden plover]

Energy is still probably playable without Raptor tbh

[rigid scarab]

Leave it to WOTC to ban a card that's actually seeing play

Konami would never

[fallow citrus]

twin being back is so cool

[golden plover]

Guide of Souls should've gone with it

[fallow citrus]

lacrima

[trail anvil]

good fuckin riddance this card was a complete mistake

[golden plover]

But other than that, the modern bans are crazy

One Ring was deserved

Raptor was deserved

[fallow citrus]

could not have picked a worse time to pull that example out when it literally just happened

[golden plover]

Flooting coming back is COOL

[rigid scarab]

Commons are below the law they don't count

[fallow citrus]

no

you made your bed, lie in it

[ornate cedar]

Well, part of EDH is winning the table’s politics

[rigid scarab]

Like there are regular people who obey the law

And the law warps around commons to fuck them over

[ornate cedar]

Oof I’m sorry, I just saw from how long ago that message was, sorry to bump

[rigid scarab]

I made it for another guy

[fallow citrus]

[trail anvil]

is he cute

[golden plover]

I wonder if Flooting means you can actually play Phoenix in modern again

[twilit canyon]

endurance rears its ugly head and says

haha

[ornate cedar]

TOR being banned is great for the format, but I selfishly hope TOR isn’t banned from EDH so that I can play it in a deck if I want to

[rigid scarab]

Eh

[golden plover]

Although the issue is still the concern that guide+pride is still a deck too

[rigid scarab]

You can have him

[trail anvil]

damn after you made your bed for him

[twilit canyon]

thats fine that deck is mid

energy will still be good even without raptor

you just dont get to snowball

[rigid scarab]

What if I told you it was for both of you

[golden plover]

Yeah guide probably should've gone too

[trail anvil]

I think we've lost the analogy

[golden plover]

But they'll hold off on hitting the rare for energy in the new set when they can ban the uncommon and dial it in for now

[trail anvil]

was it guide or ajani

[twilit canyon]

guide was the stronger card in the deck

[golden plover]

Guide breaks the energy economy and is the stronger card in the long run

[twilit canyon]

ajani is whatever

[trail anvil]

ic

[golden plover]

Ajani would potentially find another home if energy dies

[twilit canyon]

many games where ajani is just a sorcery speed rally the troops

[rigid scarab]

Joke officially lost

[twilit canyon]

except its a 1/2 and a 2/1

[golden plover]

But not one that's as easy to flip it + a shell where it gets to just blow out the game

[rigid scarab]

Oh fuck I didn't get rid of my ajani

My MH3 collection grows weaker by the hour

[golden plover]

Guide + Ocelot + Ajani is silly. Ocelot + Ajani is less silly

[twilit canyon]

raptor was also another guaranteed red permanent to make sure ajani actually has reach

[trail anvil]

now you know how I felt with ral

I can't seem to pawn him off to anyone tho lol

[golden plover]

I could see a Boros "soul sisters" midrange thing happening with Ajani in a world with a banned guide

[trail anvil]

if I actually liked playing storm in edh I'd build him at this point

[golden plover]

But it wouldn't be nearly as strong

By soul sisters, I mean slotting warden in place of Guide and maxing out on phlages

[rigid scarab]

Here's how Soul Sisters can be tier 1:

Thank you for listening

[golden plover]

I'm calling this deck soul sisters because you're still running something for the ocelot benefit

But it wouldn't be the same thing

[lusty trench]

Mox opal prices to the moon

[golden plover]

Actually I think this theoretical deck runs [[Case of the Uneaten Feast]] instead?

[lost widget]

https://scryfall.com/card/mkm/10/case-of-the-uneaten-feast

Case of the Uneaten Feast <:manaw:1007102126813610074>

Enchantment — Case
Whenever a creature you control enters, you gain 1 life.
To solve — You've gained 5 or more life this turn. (If unsolved, solve at the beginning of your end step.)
Solved — Sacrifice this Case: Creature cards in your graveyard gain "You may cast this card from your graveyard" until end of turn.

[fallow citrus]

time to play hollow one and win every game

[golden plover]

Harder to remove body and phlage + 1 life turns it into psuedo-lurrus

[fallow citrus]

[lusty trench]

My brain is massive for offloading all of my expensive mtg cards in august

[trail anvil]

I don't play modern but I can't imagine running lifegain just to enable ocelot is where it's at

[golden plover]

Yeah I figure it's not

The list would probably pivot more towards pyromancer maybe?

[last glen]

Dang Jegantha killed
I will still see tons of Rakdos decks on Arena

Although actually I feel like I've been seeing more RUG combo decks lately

[sudden lava]

energy in aetherdrift main set confirmed

(joking)

[golden plover]

Honestly? They're 0/2

[ornate cedar]

What makes energy so broken? I genuinely don’t know

[golden plover]

I kinda hope energy goes to "yeah we do this on like 1 supplemental card every few years" from here

[ornate cedar]

Is it just because it’s a non-mana resource that’s not limited?

[golden plover]

It's an extra cost that you usually use in place of additional mana (or in the case of amped raptor in place of mana) and the ways to generate it consistently make the payoffs too good

It sticks around and can be saved for later usage

[ornate cedar]

Oh so it’s like mana+

Super mana

[golden plover]

Sorta, yeah

[ornate cedar]

And energy can be used in place of mana?

[golden plover]

Only on a couple cards

Can't be used as mana as a default

[sudden lava]

Can't wait to do dumb energy stuff after aetherdrift comes out

[ornate cedar]

Ah ok, so energy isn’t all powerful but it’s very robust?

[golden plover]

But the cards that use it cost less mana than they should because the energy is supposed to be "restrictive"

[ornate cedar]

Ah ok

Thanks for the explanation!

[copper pecan]

it's not inherently broken, it's just that there's a lot of cheap ways to make it

[sudden lava]

but yeah this is why amped raptor was chosen

[golden plover]

It was fine on the fallout commander cards, but honestly I'm kinda for energy never touching another constructed set at this point

[copper pecan]

the rate is the problem, not the mechanic itself

[golden plover]

Yeah, energy would be fine if the mechanic cost more

But now there's too many cheap enablers

[copper pecan]

i'm like 99% sure it's gonna be in aetherdrift

it would be weird for one of the set's precons to have nothing to do with the set

[sudden lava]

Living Energy likely has some vehicles

[golden plover]

The precons are probably doing what they did with the Ixalan ones

[copper pecan]

oh true i forgot about the ixalan precons

[golden plover]

Use the mechanics and themes from the first time since the main set won't

[sudden lava]

"Charge up artifact creatures"

[golden plover]

Ixalan used the typal themes and some mechanics in there so we'd have options for those + options for the new stuff in the main set

I can see the Temur one being an energy precon and the Esper one being an Embalm/eternalize precon

[sudden lava]

I can easily see it having like a vehicle that can by crewed with energy

[trail anvil]

100%

[golden plover]

That's probably a given

I just don't think we'll see energy going back into standard

[sudden lava]

but yeah the connection to the set is artifact matters set

[trail anvil]

I'd fuck heavy with an embalm/eternalize deck

[golden plover]

The track record for energy in constructed formats now is "consistently broken"

[sudden lava]

and she likes artifacts so

[golden plover]

So it's pretty unlike to put it back in standard

[trail anvil]

especially if we can get more power matters cards

[golden plover]

I loved the eternalize ones where the power going up/down lead to cool designs

[subtle sierra]

Crew 🌩️

[trail anvil]

eh I think they can find a healthy balance

[golden plover]

[[Champion of Wits]] my beloved

[lost widget]

https://scryfall.com/card/ncc/213/champion-of-wits

Champion of Wits <:mana2:292901509060886528><:manau:292901508754702338>

Creature — Snake Wizard
When Champion of Wits enters, you may draw cards equal to its power. If you do, discard two cards.
Eternalize (, Exile this card from your graveyard: Create a token that's a copy of it, except it's a 4/4 black Zombie Snake Wizard with no mana cost. Eternalize only as a sorcery.)
2/1

[sudden lava]

I think Eternal Might is self mill with amass

[golden plover]

The issue is all the busted energy enablers exist in eternal formats now

[trail anvil]

like adventures were a massive problem in throne of eldraine

[sudden lava]

maybe some eternalize

[golden plover]

Were they?

Outside of like the support cards that died none of the individual adventures were too good

Bonecrusher and Murderous Rider were the only two to see play outside of adventure decks

[trail anvil]

even following that bonecrusher giant and that bouncing fairy were omnipresent cause they were too efficient

[golden plover]

The issue with doing the same thing for energy is that they'd have to ban like 4 cards in pioneer to make a new energy card fair

And they'd have to ban like 10+ in modern

[atomic harness]

HELLO

[trail anvil]

time to put it in green black this time around /s

[atomic harness]

MOX OPAL??

can someone link the thingie

I just saw mox opal and started foaming at the mouth

[golden plover]

Lmao I think they'd have to keep trying new colors lol

But green has [[attune with aether]]

[lost widget]

https://scryfall.com/card/kld/145/attune-with-aether

Attune with Aether <:manag:292901508654301185>

Sorcery
Search your library for a basic land card, reveal it, put it into your hand, then shuffle. You get (two energy counters).
"I've never seen a world where aether weaves through every aspect of nature."

[atomic harness]

Love these guys

Oh did giant killer not see play outside of adventure?

[trail anvil]

no it did in monowhite or whatever the weenie deck was iirc

[golden plover]

It did for a bit, yeah

But white was struggling around Eldraine

[twilit canyon]

quite a lot

[atomic harness]

Iirc the rly good ones were brazen, bcg, murderous, and giant killer

Yeye

[trail anvil]

lovestruck was also big because he was two bodies in one and you were already running 1/1s

[golden plover]

There was the board wipe too

[twilit canyon]

brazen, bonecrusher, rider were omni-present

[golden plover]

He saw a a bit of play

[trail anvil]

there was the wishboard fairy too in combo decks

[twilit canyon]

they still see a fair bit of play. borrower specifically

and bcg shows up a lot

[golden plover]

[[Real Cloaked Giant]], I think

[lost widget]

https://scryfall.com/card/afc/70/realm-cloaked-giant-cast-off

Realm-Cloaked Giant <:mana5:292901508796645386><:manaw:1007102126813610074><:manaw:1007102126813610074>

Creature — Giant
Vigilance
7/7

Cast Off
Sorcery — Adventure
Destroy all non-Giant creatures. (Then exile this card. You may cast the creature later from exile.)

[trail anvil]

rimrock was big in monored

[sudden lava]

this is 100% getting put in the precon

[golden plover]

But the issue for Advent was the support cards

[atomic harness]

did we actually get a list?

[golden plover]

The relevant adventure cards themselves are all fine

Energy has the issue that all the support cards are also enablers

[trail anvil]

I just think the mechanic as a whole was really undercosted

[golden plover]

Energy or adventure?

[twilit canyon]

yes

[trail anvil]

this time around a lot of cards were made more expensive on the adventure side to compensate

[golden plover]

Yeah that too

[atomic harness]

My son is back

[trail anvil]

well probably both at some point in time

[atomic harness]

[golden plover]

But they can't really do that with energy without killing all the old stuff

[atomic harness]

Oh also rip tor and raptor haha

[golden plover]

Any new energy card has to exist in formats with Guide of Souls, Attune with Aether, and others

I can't see them trying energy again without it costing a shitload of energy

[twilit canyon]

attune with aether is not great though

[golden plover]

It was part of the initial issue

I'm bringing it up because an energy deck in pioneer doesn't have guide

[twilit canyon]

the energy deck in pioneer is also not good

[ornate cedar]

I’m so stoked to try this with Bello lol

[golden plover]

But it's for the first couple problem cards, and would likely still find use in them

[golden plover]

I'm not talking about a current energy deck. I'm saying bringing energy back to standard doesn't seem likely

Since it would definitely break stuff in pioneer/modern

[sudden lava]

hopefully there is enough chonky artifacts/enchantments for Bello to throw

[golden plover]

I think energy will probably be supplemental set/commander product only from this point out

[sudden lava]

https://tenor.com/view/jmf76-raccoon-stealing-fineapple-gif-11861216764050713027

[ornate cedar]

Roaming Throne 2?

[golden plover]

It's just too hard to balance it

It's funny, because energy would be a perfect mechanic to give izzet in a Ravnica set

But they can't be trusted with it

[copper pecan]

the meme economy is in shambles now

what card will people ask to have unbanned now that twin and opal are back?

[golden plover]

Birthing Pod

[trail anvil]

what deck benefits the most from faithless unban, murktide?

[twilit canyon]

honestly nothing

besides some okay tier 3 decks

looting is not a murktide card

[golden plover]

Doesn't Mardu pyromancer come back?

I dunno how good pyromancer is now

But in theory getting flooting brings the deck back

And Phoenix

[atomic harness]

Looting = noob

Word me Misty

is my goat cooking btw @twilit canyon https://x.com/Mengu09/status/1868706395060945214/photo/1

Andrea Mengucci (@Mengu09) on X

Turn2 btw #MTGModern

Twitter · Dec 16, 2024, 5:14 PM

[twilit canyon]

i love losing to meltdown (but yes he is)

[trail anvil]

I never realized improvise can pay for colored mana for some reason

[twilit canyon]

it cannot

he used mopal for the blue

[trail anvil]

o lmao

that makes more sense then

[fallow citrus]

my child

[twilit canyon]

kappa cannoneer son or splinter twin daughter

[fallow citrus]

kappa cannoneer son for sure

[glad peak]

Splinter twin daughter

At least she’d have some brain other than dump hand

[past socket]

Was Splinter Twin freedom a good idea? Not as familiar with the other formats

I heard One Ring was a nightmare in like 99% of formats though

[zinc shard]

the main combo with Splinter Twin was to stick it on [[Deciever Exarch]] to make infinite tokens

[lost widget]

https://scryfall.com/card/cma/36/deceiver-exarch

Deceiver Exarch <:mana2:292901509060886528><:manau:292901508754702338>

Creature — Phyrexian Cleric
Flash (You may cast this spell any time you could cast an instant.)
When Deceiver Exarch enters, choose one —
• Untap target permanent you control.
• Tap target permanent an opponent controls.
1/4

[zinc shard]

which isnt that great considering what you could be doing in Modern

[fallow citrus]

[sudden lava]

https://youtu.be/dRYc48KSj6k

[past socket]

I see

Flubs is truly a fabulous fool

https://youtu.be/zVQnbMs1Q0Q?si=fNoDU7YH4Yxp-aUr Ooo the forbidden episode

[golden plover]

Just had a really weird win that kinda functions as a fun puzzle:
Opponent (4 life):
1 Tolarian Terror (tapped, stun counter), 1 Tolarian Terror (untapped), 1 Eddymurk Crab (untapped)
Me (5 life):
Kaito, Bane of Nightmares (3 loyalty counters, emblem has been used twice so he's a 5/6), Sheoldred the Apocalypse, Restless Reef (total of 9 mana)
Assume no cards in hand. On the end step they used Into the Flood Maw on Sheoldred, didn't attack with either of their bodies. Can you see what they did wrong and how I win this turn?

[glad peak]

Wait why didn’t they attack if they floodmaw’d your sheoldred

[golden plover]

Had the mana to animate reef in response

But they should have, yeah

If they swung they would have killed Sheoldred, bounced reef to my hand, and killed kaito

That would have won them the game

[past socket]

I see

[golden plover]

Well not guaranteed, but it would have forced me to topdeck [[Blasphemous Edict]] and that would've been less likely

[lost widget]

https://scryfall.com/card/fdn/57/blasphemous-edict

Blasphemous Edict <:mana3:292901508771610624><:manab:292901508872273920><:manab:292901508872273920>

Sorcery
You may pay rather than pay this spell's mana cost if there are thirteen or more creatures on the battlefield.
Each player sacrifices thirteen creatures of their choice.
"A demonic pact is all fun and games until the bill comes due." —Liliana Vess

[sudden lava]

This episode otherwise known as: || Lua bodies the table||

[glad peak]

If she’s playing winota as usual then I’d hope so

[sudden lava]

She's on Aragorn

Aragorn with multicolor spells to maximize value

[past socket]

Along side Flubs and his squad of slime friends
The return of mana burn
And Vecna.ydk

[rigid scarab]

This is the angriest I've ever seen TTM

[sudden lava]

Lua:|| "It's not CEDH!"||
Also Lua: ||bodies the table||

[past socket]

Reminds me that I’ve meaning to mess with one of the group of cards that you can play a billion of in Commander, not sure which one though

[sudden lava]

The 4 decks: Multicolor is fun!, Flub's slime lab, These youngings forgot about mana burn, and Vecna the Secret Commander

[past socket]

Vecna is just not as cool Grim Captain

But yeah undecided between Slimes Against Humanity and Dragon’s Approach

[ornate cedar]

Ah, here comes the wave of people saying TOR was fair and balanced actually lol

[glad peak]

I mean, even if Aragorn bodies the table it doesn’t mean he’s cedh

[golden plover]

Don't you know that every deck that wins is cedh

[sudden lava]

aye, spoilers

I saw the episode, but let people have some time to see the episode

[golden plover]

I hate that argument lol

[ornate cedar]

Just like every deck that beats mine is meta

[past socket]

Don’t know the full scope of the shenanigans of TOR but heard it was a terror in a bunch of formats

[golden plover]

Everyone who beats me is cheating or it came down to luck

[modern minnow]

Do people that know nothing about cedh still talk about cedh

[golden plover]

And everyone who loses to me is worse at the game and I'm a superior player

[ornate cedar]

TOR at 4 in a 60 card deck is bullshit. I think TOR at 1 in a 100 card deck like in commander is more acceptable

[golden plover]

That's the classic

"Aaragorn is cedh" - statements dreamed up by the deranged

[modern minnow]

I still don't super like tor in commander tbh

[ornate cedar]

Completely fair

I’m also biased because I have a copy lol

[modern minnow]

Everything is cedh

[past socket]

Commander is probably where it’s at it’s most acceptable but still not a high bar ig?

[golden plover]

I mean, I think there's so 0 reason not to run it in literally every deck in the format

[sudden lava]

I can't wait for spoiler season to return

[golden plover]

It's not as overbearing as it was in modern

[ornate cedar]

Unless there is a way to consistently tutor it

[golden plover]

But I don't think there's a reason to not run one

[ornate cedar]

I don’t run it in my casual commander decks because I feel like it’s overpowered

And last thing I wanna do is pub stomp someone

[golden plover]

Fair. I do just think it's a card that has 0 reason not to be in literally every deck

[ornate cedar]

I agree

[sudden lava]

I need that Magic on motorcycles in my veins

[ornate cedar]

https://tenor.com/view/anime-card-games-on-motorcycles-yugioh-5ds-jack-gif-11106647

[glad peak]

I love drawing a bunch of cards a turn

[modern minnow]

Yeah its one of the few cards i haven't been playing because it just wins every time it comes down and people i play with don't have it

[golden plover]

Yeah, I think I really should be proxying a copy for my cedh decks

[ornate cedar]

If only we had something like Crossout designator lol

[glad peak]

We do but it’s slow and you have to do it before your opponent casts it and you don’t necessarily need to have it in your deck

[golden plover]

You've also go [[Surgical Extraction]]

[lost widget]

https://scryfall.com/card/2x2/94/surgical-extraction

Surgical Extraction <:manabp:292901508922474496>

Instant
( can be paid with either or 2 life.)
Choose target card in a graveyard other than a basic land card. Search its owner's graveyard, hand, and library for any number of cards with the same name as that card and exile them. Then that player shuffles.

[golden plover]

But that's not gonna deal with the ring

[glad peak]

[[praetor’s grasp]] poggers

[lost widget]

https://scryfall.com/card/nph/71/praetors-grasp

Praetor's Grasp <:mana1:292901508373282827><:manab:292901508872273920><:manab:292901508872273920>

Sorcery
Search target opponent's library for a card and exile it face down. Then that player shuffles. You may play that card for as long as it remains exiled.
Sheoldred weaves every thread of information into a noose to hang her enemies.

[past socket]

Surgical Extractionses is how one gets the precious?

[ornate cedar]

Bello + One Ring

Sounds like fun

[past socket]

So it turns the format into Smeagol in other words

[ornate cedar]

My precious

[past socket]

They aim to draw the precious

To win the gameses

[golden plover]

In 60 card you could respond to their second ring with extraction ig

But they still get 2 rings out of it

[modern minnow]

How offensive do you think fair thoracle is in casual commander

[ornate cedar]

They has the sunfall, precious!

[golden plover]

Honestly probably totally fine?

Tbf I've literally never seen Thoracle get used "fairly"

[modern minnow]

Had someone salt at me for playing thras once which was funny

[golden plover]

But if you're using it to like scry 7 it's whatever

[modern minnow]

Thras in the 99

[ornate cedar]

Yeah, isn’t thoracle used in decks with like 97 lands lol

[golden plover]

No not at all

[modern minnow]

By fair i just mean drawing through or self milling

[glad peak]

Without black it’s totally fine

[golden plover]

Thoracle is used with [[Demonic Consultation]] to win on the spot

[lost widget]

https://scryfall.com/card/me2/85/demonic-consultation

Demonic Consultation <:manab:292901508872273920>

Instant
Choose a card name. Exile the top six cards of your library, then reveal cards from the top of your library until you reveal a card with the chosen name. Put that card into your hand and exile all other cards revealed this way.

[modern minnow]

Vs smth like consult or pact

[golden plover]

Yeah, without black you'd be fine if you're not tutoring it

[ornate cedar]

Ah yep that’s the card I was thinking of

That + thoracle + 97 lands

[golden plover]

You don't need 97 lands

[past socket]

Funniest Thrasios Commander deck I’ve seen was like

[glad peak]

I’d go as far as to say without black thoracle is completely fine in casual commander

[past socket]

The Grim Captain

[golden plover]

You just declare a card name that's not in your deck

[past socket]

My first exposure to the concept of the hidden commander

The partner combo was like Thrasios and Francisco, Fowl Marauder

[ornate cedar]

Ah, that was just the example that CGB presented to Cimo in the video where he showed him that FTK

[golden plover]

Yeah, you run 97 other good cards

[glad peak]

The only deck with 97 lands is really the ad naus + dump your hand for damage strat some people played

[modern minnow]

[[the grim captain]]

[lost widget]

https://scryfall.com/card/lci/266/throne-of-the-grim-captain-the-grim-captain

Throne of the Grim Captain <:mana2:292901509060886528>

Legendary Artifact
: Mill two cards.
Craft with a Dinosaur, a Merfolk, a Pirate, and a Vampire (, Exile this artifact, Exile the four from among permanents you control and/or cards in your graveyard: Return this card transformed under its owner's control. Craft only as a sorcery.)

The Grim Captain
Legendary Creature — Skeleton Spirit Pirate
Menace, trample, lifelink, hexproof
Whenever The Grim Captain attacks, each opponent sacrifices a nonland permanent of their choice. Then you may put an exiled creature card used to craft The Grim Captain onto the battlefield under your control tapped and attacking.
7/7

[ornate cedar]

That makes more sense lol

[golden plover]

But you can just declare a card that's not in your deck

[ornate cedar]

YGO is nuts, but I feel like MTG can honestly get crazier in legacy formats

Maybe I’m wrong though

[golden plover]

The usual is declaring [[You are Already Dead]]

[lost widget]

https://scryfall.com/card/neo/129/you-are-already-dead

You Are Already Dead <:manab:292901508872273920>

Instant
Destroy target creature that was dealt damage this turn.
Draw a card.
So swift and sharp was his blade that the ogre never even felt the cut.

[golden plover]

But I like to flex by saying [[Asmoranormadicadastinaculdicar]]

[lost widget]

No card found for “Asmoranormadicadastinaculdicar”

[golden plover]

[[Asmorananomadicadastinaculdicar]]

[lost widget]

https://scryfall.com/card/mh2/186/asmoranomardicadaistinaculdacar

Asmoranomardicadaistinaculdacar

Legendary Creature — Human Wizard
As long as you've discarded a card this turn, you may pay to cast this spell.
When Asmoranomardicadaistinaculdacar enters, you may search your library for a card named The Underworld Cookbook, reveal it, put it into your hand, then shuffle.
Sacrifice two Foods: Target creature deals 6 damage to itself.
3/3

[modern minnow]

Think there's an extra r

[golden plover]

Yeah, forgot an "na"

It's easier to say than it is to spell

[ornate cedar]

If you can pronounce this card correctly you should just win the game lol

[past socket]

Errata when, Wizards

[golden plover]

[[Abandon Hope]] is the classic

[lost widget]

https://scryfall.com/card/tmp/107/abandon-hope

Abandon Hope <:manax:292901509082120202><:mana1:292901508373282827><:manab:292901508872273920>

Sorcery
As an additional cost to cast this spell, discard X cards.
Look at target opponent's hand and choose X cards from it. That player discards those cards.
As Gerrard's form vanished into the maw of trees, Hanna mouthed a silent plea, mourning a crushed dream.

[past socket]

Though someone using them as a Commander is probably cooking enough

https://tenor.com/view/ba-dum-tsss-drum-band-gif-7320811

[modern minnow]

I forget can you declare uncards with consult

[golden plover]

You can, which is good for [[Mistakes were Made]]

[lost widget]

https://scryfall.com/card/unf/147/mistakes-were-made

Mistakes Were Made <:mana1:292901508373282827><:manag:292901508654301185>

Instant
Destroy target artifact or enchantment. Create a 1/1 green Squirrel creature token for each fire extinguisher you can see from your seat.
In hindsight, Chandra's Incendiary Experience should never have been built next to Auntie Grub's House of Pitch.

[modern minnow]

Lovely

[past socket]

squrls

[golden plover]

Not the best card to declare for the Thoracle meta

[[Weakness]] is another funny one

[lost widget]

https://scryfall.com/card/me4/101/weakness

Weakness <:manab:292901508872273920>

Enchantment — Aura
Enchant creature
Enchanted creature gets -2/-1.

[golden plover]

Nope no weakness in my deck

[past socket]

https://tenor.com/view/ba-dum-tsss-drum-band-gif-7320811

[sudden lava]

favorite unland

Progress flag on the shirt makes this tap for all 5 colors

[past socket]

Uncards are a goldmine of blessed fuckery

[sudden lava]

(but only one of them)

[past socket]

[[Bronze Calendar is my favourite]]

[lost widget]

No card found for “Bronze Calendar is my favourit…”

[past socket]

Why did I bracket the whole thing…

[[Bronze Calendar]]

[lost widget]

https://scryfall.com/card/und/76/bronze-calendar

Bronze Calendar <:mana4:292901508712890379>

Artifact
Spells you cast cost less to cast.
You must speak in a voice other than your normal voice.
When you speak in your normal voice, sacrifice Bronze Calendar.
Every page holds a month, every date a numeral.

[past socket]

or [[Mobile Clone]]

[lost widget]

https://scryfall.com/card/unf/51/mobile-clone

Mobile Clone <:mana2:292901509060886528><:manau:292901508754702338><:manau:292901508754702338>

Sorcery
Using a mobile device, take a picture of target creature. That device enters as a token that's a photocopy of the pictured creature. (Photocopies include Auras, Equipment, counters, and stickers in the shot. Don't touch other people's phones without permission and be careful if you do.)

[sudden lava]

has the full wubrg 🙂

[sudden lava]

Vanishing at home

[past socket]

Just experiencing seeing an entire deck of uncards as research for learning Zedruu, the Greathearted just broke my brain regarding the rabbit hole of uncards

Including the use of Mobile Clone to copy Zedruu

[sudden lava]

the flex of autograph book tho

[zinc shard]

feels good

[twilit canyon]

the classic is [[abandon hope]]

[lost widget]

https://scryfall.com/card/tmp/107/abandon-hope

Abandon Hope <:manax:292901509082120202><:mana1:292901508373282827><:manab:292901508872273920>

Sorcery
As an additional cost to cast this spell, discard X cards.
Look at target opponent's hand and choose X cards from it. That player discards those cards.
As Gerrard's form vanished into the maw of trees, Hanna mouthed a silent plea, mourning a crushed dream.

[zinc shard]

I once did a Unstable draft and played [[Skull Saucer]]

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https://scryfall.com/card/und/44/skull-saucer

Skull Saucer <:mana4:292901508712890379><:manab:292901508872273920><:manab:292901508872273920>

Creature — Zombie Head
Flying
When Skull Saucer enters, destroy target creature and put your head on the table. Sacrifice Skull Saucer when your head stops touching the table.
No body is ready for this kind of power.
4/1

[zinc shard]

it was not worth it

[past socket]

I’m a bit biased due to the use of a flawless Arnie impression from when I first saw Bronze Calendar used

[golden plover]

Yeah I mentioned abandon Hope

[atomic harness]

woooooo yeah baby

[golden plover]

Oh cool, the can't sideboard glitch on arena is back

But now it lets you take cards out, can't put any in tho

Meaning you throw the match when the glitch happens

Neat

[trail anvil]

restart the app

[golden plover]

Yeah I did, but if that happens it stays all match

Restarting lets you go back to your deck pre-siding at least

[copper pecan]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/507388259165536263/1318664994044510288/image.png?ex=676325fa&is=6761d47a&hm=5f836a9240748707f5c4364a707b04dcd94546cb255bf11309129501c9ad377c&=&format=webp&quality=lossless&width=808&height=407

[trail anvil]

spooky...

the more I play [[virtue of loyalty]] the more I think this card is cheeks

[lost widget]

https://scryfall.com/card/woe/38/virtue-of-loyalty-ardenvale-fealty

Virtue of Loyalty <:mana3:292901508771610624><:manaw:1007102126813610074><:manaw:1007102126813610074>

Enchantment
At the beginning of your end step, put a +1/+1 counter on each creature you control. Untap those creatures.

Ardenvale Fealty
Instant — Adventure
Create a 2/2 white Knight creature token with vigilance. (Then exile this card. You may cast the enchantment later from exile.)

[golden plover]

Yeah it's kinda bad

What are you playing it in?

[trail anvil]

monowhite, but I'd rather have an overlord pretty much each time since I don't usually see many counterspells

I get the idea behind it, you pop it on the opponent's turn for extra draws and the backside helps as a finisher, but it usually feels very underwhelming

I feel like carrot cake and fountainport trigger my draw engine enough to the point where I don't care about it

[trail anvil]

all that said, I feel like monowhite is the most fun I've had in standard in a while. I think monowhite midrange is just one of my favorite kinds of decks period

[last glen]

Virtue of Loyalty has always been a huge pain for me when it comes down
but it's also really good against the aggro and midrange-aggro decks I usually play

[golden plover]

I'd rather overlord or carrot cake literally every time

Tbh, I was playing Mono-White with a slightly more midrange slant than the normal build

Running the doll room, Toby, and Ghostly Dancers

[zinc shard]

https://x.com/MBTYuGiOh/status/1868710342555320763

MBT (@MBTYuGiOh) on X

well, it finally happened

after months of peering in from the sidelines, i've decided to take the plunge and get back into comp mtg!

i had so much fun with modern back in the day, i decided to pick up the most versatile format staple and see what calls my name. wish me luck!

Twitter · Dec 16, 2024, 5:30 PM

[glad peak]

He gonna play mono blue tron

And then get dq’d every game for having the one ring in deck

[gritty nest]

https://www.moxfield.com/decks/P8GwLXDPj0G2DgEh-iHf9g I need to redo this deck, it's a bit too slow even for lower power decks. What should I do you guys think?

[sudden lava]

The joke is that isn't his image

[glad peak]

The joke is that mbt is short from mono blue tron, a deck that plays the one ring

[sudden lava]

Im aware

[glad peak]

So am I

[last glen]

oh

apparently you had to re-apply for each wave for the Rule Zero Games stuff

missed waves two and three

[gritty nest]

i redid the Ur-Dragon deck

[gritty nest]

https://www.moxfield.com/decks/ELIAhPMq10GP4fsgv9ZcfA

[past socket]

Oops All Dragons 2: Now With 50% More Dragons

[gritty nest]

It still needs work done to it

It needs cards cut mainly

[lusty trench]

Cut sulimgar and Scion of the Ur dragon

Play swashbuckler

Also [[majestic genesis]]

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https://scryfall.com/card/clb/240/majestic-genesis

Majestic Genesis <:mana6:292901508780130304><:manag:292901508654301185><:manag:292901508654301185>

Sorcery
Reveal the top X cards of your library, where X is the greatest mana value of a commander you own on the battlefield or in the command zone. You may put any number of permanent cards from among them onto the battlefield. Put the rest on the bottom of your library in a random order.

[gritty nest]

[[Swashbuckler]]

[lost widget]

https://scryfall.com/card/lci/263/swashbucklers-whip

Swashbuckler's Whip <:mana1:292901508373282827>

Artifact — Equipment
Equipped creature has reach, ", : Tap target artifact or creature," and ", : Discover 10." (Exile cards from the top of your library until you exile a nonland card with mana value 10 or less. Cast it without paying its mana cost or put it into your hand. Put the rest on the bottom in a random order.)
Equip

[lusty trench]

[[swashbuckler extraordinare]]

[lost widget]

https://scryfall.com/card/clb/198/swashbuckler-extraordinaire

Swashbuckler Extraordinaire <:mana2:292901509060886528><:manar:292901508796645397>

Creature — Dragon Rogue Warrior
When Swashbuckler Extraordinaire enters, create a Treasure token. (It's an artifact with ", Sacrifice this artifact: Add one mana of any color.")
Whenever you attack, you may sacrifice one or more Treasures. When you do, up to that many target creatures gain double strike until end of turn.
2/2

[lusty trench]

He make the treasure and if he sticks around he helps close out games

[gritty nest]

if I have the treasures for it

[past socket]

[[Goldspan Dragon]] and [[Old Gnawbone]] my beloved

[lost widget]

https://scryfall.com/card/khm/139/goldspan-dragon

Goldspan Dragon <:mana3:292901508771610624><:manar:292901508796645397><:manar:292901508796645397>

Creature — Dragon
Flying, haste
Whenever Goldspan Dragon attacks or becomes the target of a spell, create a Treasure token.
Treasures you control have ", Sacrifice this artifact: Add two mana of any one color."
4/4

https://scryfall.com/card/afr/197/old-gnawbone

Old Gnawbone <:mana5:292901508796645386><:manag:292901508654301185><:manag:292901508654301185>

Legendary Creature — Dragon
Flying
Whenever a creature you control deals combat damage to a player, create that many Treasure tokens.
The ancient green dragon Claugiyliamatar is often seen with a mangled corpse dangling from her mouth.
7/7

[gritty nest]

ngl i forgot Gnawbone was a card (im a dumb ass)

[lusty trench]

Also play kaldheim magda

[gritty nest]

uhh

[[Brazen Outlaw]]?

[lost widget]

https://scryfall.com/card/khm/142/magda-brazen-outlaw

Magda, Brazen Outlaw <:mana1:292901508373282827><:manar:292901508796645397>

Legendary Creature — Dwarf Berserker
Other Dwarves you control get +1/+0.
Whenever a Dwarf you control becomes tapped, create a Treasure token.
Sacrifice five Treasures: Search your library for an artifact or Dragon card, put that card onto the battlefield, then shuffle.
2/1

[gritty nest]

im still 9 cards over

i love the idea of this deck but hate how hard it is to cut stuff

[merry owl]

anyone have suggestions for other fun enchantments like [[zur's weirding]]?

[lost widget]

https://scryfall.com/card/9ed/114/zurs-weirding

Zur's Weirding <:mana3:292901508771610624><:manau:292901508754702338>

Enchantment
Players play with their hands revealed.
If a player would draw a card, they reveal it instead. Then any other player may pay 2 life. If a player does, put that card into its owner's graveyard. Otherwise, that player draws a card.

[trail anvil]

fun enchantments
zur's weirding

[gritty nest]

[[hivemind]]

[lost widget]

https://scryfall.com/card/m10/54/hive-mind

Hive Mind <:mana5:292901508796645386><:manau:292901508754702338>

Enchantment
Whenever a player casts an instant or sorcery spell, each other player copies that spell. Each of those players may choose new targets for their copy.
"All consciousness is one, separated only by a thin veil of the physical." —Jace Beleren

[gritty nest]

[[eye of the storm]]

[lost widget]

https://scryfall.com/card/rav/48/eye-of-the-storm

Eye of the Storm <:mana5:292901508796645386><:manau:292901508754702338><:manau:292901508754702338>

Enchantment
Whenever a player casts an instant or sorcery card, exile it. Then that player copies each instant or sorcery card exiled with Eye of the Storm. For each copy, the player may cast the copy without paying its mana cost.

[merry owl]

very fun
also found [[psychic battle]]

[lost widget]

https://scryfall.com/card/inv/68/psychic-battle

Psychic Battle <:mana3:292901508771610624><:manau:292901508754702338><:manau:292901508754702338>

Enchantment
Whenever a player chooses one or more targets, each player reveals the top card of their library. The player who reveals the card with the highest mana value may change the target or targets. If two or more cards are tied for highest, the target or targets remain unchanged. Changing targets this way doesn't trigger abilities of permanents named Psychic Battle.

[trail anvil]

do you want unique blue enchantments or just floodgates like that

[merry owl]

it can be wubrg, i'm building [[marina vendrell]] but without any rooms

[lost widget]

https://scryfall.com/card/dsk/221/marina-vendrell

Marina Vendrell <:manaw:1007102126813610074><:manau:292901508754702338><:manab:292901508872273920><:manar:292901508796645397><:manag:292901508654301185>

Legendary Creature — Human Warlock
When Marina Vendrell enters, reveal the top seven cards of your library. Put all enchantment cards from among them into your hand and the rest on the bottom of your library in a random order.
: Lock or unlock a door of target Room you control. Activate only as a sorcery.
3/5

[trail anvil]

ah

[[communal brewing]] is a fun one

[lost widget]

https://scryfall.com/card/blc/29/communal-brewing

Communal Brewing <:mana2:292901509060886528><:manag:292901508654301185>

Enchantment
When Communal Brewing enters, any number of target opponents each draw a card. Put an ingredient counter on Communal Brewing, then put an ingredient counter on it for each card drawn this way.
Whenever you cast a creature spell, that creature enters with X additional +1/+1 counters on it, where X is the number of ingredient counters on Communal Brewing.

[merry owl]

they cook

[merry owl]

i could actually have a wincon with the enduring ideal that i was already planning on putting in my deck

[golden plover]

The more I play against Archfiend of the Dross, the more I'm convinced he's a bad card

[trail anvil]

I've kinda felt that way too but he's been like the one constant demon through all the golgari and dimir variations

[golden plover]

He's the best reasonable demon in standard

But... He's kinda dogshit

[trail anvil]

I'd personally rather have bloodletter but idk, maybe people really like that 6/6 flyer body

[golden plover]

I honestly think most lists would be improved by Bloodletter yeah

Bloodletter also doesn't lose you the game if Kaito taps him down

[trail anvil]

or these days that blue faerie spell/drowner

[golden plover]

Archfiend is a scarier clock

[trail anvil]

that said, dross burns on tokens dying

[golden plover]

But in mythic I'm having a decent bit of wins where they're relying on archfiend and I can just go "Kaito -2"

Even if it doesn't run them out of oil counters, it halves his effective damage and gives two turns to punch through

Also, Bloodletter and Slasher have the cute combo

[twilit canyon]

dross is really good into everything besides dimir

so if you are a person who is maining dimir... of course it seems bad

[golden plover]

I dunno, Golgari runs enough removal dross is hardly sticking for a turn

[twilit canyon]

you are the one deck its really dogshit

[twilit canyon]

a good half of it cant kill it

[golden plover]

Tbf I'm not playing Golgari, but I can't imagine they don't hold up a go for the throat or shot the sheriff for it

[twilit canyon]

3-4 cut downs, 2-3 anoints

gftt has to be held for glissas and preachers too

cus anoint is there for dreadknights

[golden plover]

You can annoint a Glissa too tbh

I think it's worth it if the choice is gftt or annoint it

Tbh that might just be Dimir bias because their dread Knight also draws me a card

But I imagine Golgari is fine using annoint on a Glissa too

[twilit canyon]

yes and no

dreadknight is much more impactful and eats up a lot of the mirror

[golden plover]

Gotcha. Are you as scared of Glissa connecting in the mirror tho?

When I was on caretaker's, we had to kill Glissa on sight

[trail anvil]

I feel like I'm seeing so much dimir

[golden plover]

But against Dimir, it's worth letting them connect Glissa once or twice if you can outvalue it

[trail anvil]

if you have annex I'm sure

even if you don't though letting a value engine run wild doesn't sound good

[golden plover]

Yeah, obviously not. But you can let it through once or twice if you're fishing for removal

[twilit canyon]

meh

sometimes

if i have an annex in play if it has drawn me more cards i value the board presence

[trail anvil]

continuing with dross though, do you think it would be run if not for annex?

and if not, do you think soulstone + room token would be enough for drain while just running another value card in b?

I'm getting the impression that flying is getting more valuable at least in this standard

I could also see part of the value of dross in trading with annex token

[twilit canyon]

sometimes yes it'd be played

4 mana 6/6 flying

it was seeing a decent amount of play pre-dsk

[golden plover]

I think without annex, it probably wouldn't see much play at all

It was seeing a bit pre-duskmorn, but not much in anything relevant

[last glen]

it's minimally a sidegrade to to Sheoldred

[twilit canyon]

it is a completely different card to sheoldred

[golden plover]

Yeah Sheoldred wants to stick around and impact the board

Archfiend is a clock

[pulsar talon]

[[Demonic tutor]] @inner bronze

[lost widget]

https://scryfall.com/card/cmm/150/demonic-tutor

Demonic Tutor <:mana1:292901508373282827><:manab:292901508872273920>

Sorcery
Search your library for a card, put that card into your hand, then shuffle.
Beware the generosity of demons.

[last glen]

and now they won't stop calling searchers tutors

[zinc shard]

played irl commander for the first time in years, forgot how fun it was

[glad peak]

played irl commander for the first time in a while

forgot how miserable it is to combo with enchantress no matter the format

[gritty nest]

testing out the reworked ur-dragon deck

[past socket]

I am eager to play thw silliest frogge

Flubs the Fool

[glad peak]

Flubs is funny but after the second time you realize a rudimentary AI can play him perfectly

[past socket]

I mean it is perfect accurate to Flubs

Just an absolute flavour win for even a fool to be able to play The Fool

[glad peak]

True

It’s a good goldfish opponent to removal check your deck

[golden plover]

@copper pecan new fun roborosewater tech

It can't get turned into a 1/2 white bird

So if I were to turn into into a bird, then make it white, then give it 1 extra toughness what happens?

I assume the most recent one doesn't work, which leads to interesting layers fuckery

[copper pecan]

yeah there's probably some weird layers shit going on there

[golden plover]

But hey, it means he can't get turned into a 1/2 white bird

[zinc shard]

https://youtu.be/hRes8boLkVs?si=_QqWkNw4r5Bp6GNr

[sudden lava]

https://youtu.be/d5N0c1YJW-Q

Brode the third head of Commander at home playing Karn

[past socket]

Ben and his shenanigans fr

[trail anvil]

benanigans

[trail anvil]

||shilgengar feels like a pretty strong casual commander to me and this episode has not changed the way I see that lol||

[past socket]

||Deck is really cool. Defo gotta try Shilgengar or Orzhov Angels||

[sudden lava]

audition for the episode sent

[trail anvil]

gl

[modern minnow]

Oh shit when does that close again

[golden plover]

End of an era: Cutting preacher of the schism and unstoppable slasher from Dimir mid to make room for more fliers

But you'll catch me dead in the ground before I cut other Kaito from this list

[twilit canyon]

you were still on slasher...?

[golden plover]

I was on 2 schism, 1 slasher

Slasher is mainly for intimidation/becomes unblockable with Kaito

But this is the new version I'm running

And I'm toying with a Grixis variant

[gritty nest]

So how dumb is splinter twin gonna be?

[twilit canyon]

completely fine

[gritty nest]

Just like

Not meta but still decent?

[fallow citrus]

it's pretty much a completely average izzet midrange/control deck

just with a fan favourite finisher

[gritty nest]

Ah

My friend is getting into modern to play splinter twin because they used to play it

[glad peak]

There’s a better win con than exarch with splinter twin now which is cool

But overall it’s just a neat deck

Fomo + twin is very good since fomo is played regardless of twin due to rummage

[gritty nest]

The actual [[fear of missing out]]?

[lost widget]

https://scryfall.com/card/dsk/136/fear-of-missing-out

Fear of Missing Out <:mana1:292901508373282827><:manar:292901508796645397>

Enchantment Creature — Nightmare
When Fear of Missing Out enters, discard a card, then draw a card.
Delirium — Whenever Fear of Missing Out attacks for the first time each turn, if there are four or more card types among cards in your graveyard, untap target creature. After this phase, there is an additional combat phase.
2/3

[glad peak]

yep

[atomic harness]

Is 8 cast the way to go or is there some other better shell? @twilit canyon @fallow citrus

Also is there a counterside against meltdown and mass artifact removal

[twilit canyon]

none really for mass artifact killing

besides counters

counter magic saves you

[atomic harness]

As always

[twilit canyon]

also you def want to be drawing a lot of cards to make up for the hand dumping you do

[past socket]

Flubs the Fool has Magic gaming correct

[glad peak]

Flubs the fool is what happens when you want to play pokemon in magic

[copper pecan]

i really want to see the rest of flubs's tarot-themed gang that apparently exists according to the bloomburrow lore article

[past socket]

What other silly little guys are the means by which all is revealed

But yeah seen Flubs taken a few different ways

Landfall, Playing from exile, the cEDH version that’s all about loads of zero cost things to really push Flubs’ silliness

[gritty nest]

guys

i never cast krenko

but I deck you out with mono red goblins

[trail anvil]

https://youtu.be/J9qt2FdNlqw?si=CKmklrXAuxHTYKnT @golden plover since you love mono u kaito so much have you tried mono u tempo but not unplayable in this meta

[golden plover]

I haven't tried this, but it's VERY similar to the Dimir builds

Biggest difference is losing out on restless reef, Duskmorn Kaito, bat, and some finishers

And the kill spells

[trail anvil]

the kill spells are a pretty massive difference lmao

[golden plover]

Yeah that's a big reason I don't think it's as good

[trail anvil]

yeah and it isn't running the good kaito

[golden plover]

True, Duskmorn Kaito is so good rn

[twilit canyon]

so good is exaggerating

hes solid if you're ahead and bad if you're behind. a perfectly serviceable card for the tempo shell which does a good job at pushing you ahead

the big thing is that faerie mastermind is extremely good at punishing the additional card draw effects that are good in standard rn

caretakers, annex, glissa, preacher, curiosity, kaito, etc etc

so get a shell around him

[trail anvil]

it's funny cause faerie mastermind has gone from good to meh to crazy

[twilit canyon]

midrange good? mastermind good
aggro good? mastermind meh

midrange is extremely good rn

[trail anvil]

I feel like memory deluge rotating and other cards being prioritized over shelly also helps

[twilit canyon]

what does that make mastermind

shelly is making a comback for the same reason as mastermind

draw is good. punish draw is good

a lot of sticky threats so anoint is strong and sometimes prioritized over gftt

[trail anvil]

do you think mono u tempo has more of a place given in theory this should do well into midrange

[twilit canyon]

makes shelly stronger

[trail anvil]

fair enough

[twilit canyon]

no

it lacks the hard removal

and our mana is too good in standard u can afford a splash

tempo can splash anything but red tbh

[trail anvil]

dang even white?

[twilit canyon]

white has a ton of strong cards rn yeah

get lost sucks but its good

super efficient removal

[trail anvil]

oh right azorius convoke is a thing

[twilit canyon]

jeskai

but yes

i like the jeskai list

sheltered by ghost is a house too

[golden plover]

He's good enough that every Dimir deck at the most recent standard event was on 3-4

[twilit canyon]

they should be

i cant think of any other card that fits his slot rn

but hes not broken

[golden plover]

He's a very strong, very versatile card in the deck to beat

[twilit canyon]

nor is he the strongest card in the deck

[golden plover]

I mean, he's not broken, but he's a very good card

[twilit canyon]

hes an excellent role player for what the deck needs

if he was a very good card, we'd see him in any other non-tempo deck for dimir

if his fair cast form was good, he'd see more play

[golden plover]

Honestly I've been fair casting him quite a decent bit in mythic

There's plenty of times it comes up that spending 1 more mana is fine

[twilit canyon]

you shouldnt unless you are that far behind

and/or board stalled

but atp you have other problems and other cards would be stronger in that spot

it can be worth to not touch kaito there

just hold until you can position him to a winning spot

[golden plover]

There's plenty of times he's decent to good at 4 mana

[twilit canyon]

not significant to play him fair

hes no sorin the mirthless

[golden plover]

Also just played an explorer game where my opponent got to hit me with [[Fervent Champion]] equipped with 2 [[Leyline Axe]] t1

[lost widget]

https://scryfall.com/card/eld/124/fervent-champion

Fervent Champion <:manar:292901508796645397>

Creature — Human Knight
First strike, haste
Whenever Fervent Champion attacks, another target attacking Knight you control gets +1/+0 until end of turn.
Equip abilities you activate that target Fervent Champion cost less to activate.
2018 World Champion Javier Domínguez
1/1

https://scryfall.com/card/fdn/129/leyline-axe

Leyline Axe <:mana4:292901508712890379>

Artifact — Equipment
If this card is in your opening hand, you may begin the game with it on the battlefield.
Equipped creature gets +1/+1 and has double strike and trample.
Equip (: Attach to target creature you control. Equip only as a sorcery.)
It awaits a worthy wielder.

[twilit canyon]

axe is a surprisingly easy card to equip

[golden plover]

It was moreso I wasn't expecting to be hit by champion doing that t1

6 damage t1 is wild

[twilit canyon]

thats generally more expected for non-rotating formats

[golden plover]

True, it's just such a Christmas land combo

[sudden lava]

If you wanted to audition for the SUP fan episode, the deadline has been reached (as of 2 minutes ago) so hopefully you got yours sent

https://youtu.be/ys3IrIGADdo Speaking of, new episode of SUP is out. Booster Tutor episode

[modern minnow]

sent in my audition now i just need to actually have a real commander deck

[glad peak]

Rogsi but the gimmick is you’ve never seen the list

[lusty trench]

https://x.com/ashleybits/status/1871193755136770519?t=sg-N2zMy31mzbooV2MV4jA&s=19

Ashley, Cardboard Gobbler (@ashleybits) on X

Oh 😀

Twitter · Dec 23, 2024, 1:58 PM

https://tenor.com/view/sponge-bob-square-pants-sponge-bob-mr-krabs-squidward-patrick-star-gif-4436055

[golden plover]

We love not killing off villains and just having them come back whenever they don't have an idea

[hidden ermine]

No wonder they're collabing with Marvel

[glad peak]

But the twist is he’s a good guy now

[stark skiff]

What? Marvel has a history of killing its villains in the movies outside of like a select few lol

[hidden ermine]

... you do know that Marvel did comics before it did movies, right?

And yeah the comics very much so do "the villains dont die so they keep coming back"

[stark skiff]

Yeah it’s why I specified movies since it’s likely a MCU collab lol

[glad peak]

Marvel has a history of killing its villains in the movies to the point where they regret it lol

[golden plover]

They absolutely did not plan for this standard rotation to have an extra year. The interactions with the overlords (namely Hauntwoods and Leyline Binding) and stuff like Zur is... Definitely not supposed to be in standard at the same time

Zur being in the same standard as the overlords is kinda dumb

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Bluesky · Dec 23, 2024, 3:39 PM

[trail anvil]

are you sure about that

[trail anvil]

weren't you just calling this deck greedy like a week ago

[twilit canyon]

its a very normal and reasonable deck

[trail anvil]

I agree. it's just domain in it's dozenth incarnation

[twilit canyon]

this time better against control and midrange

[trail anvil]

somehow I find it less annoying than triome domain though

probably due to the fact that they can't just randomly cycle their whole deck in stalled gamestates

[twilit canyon]

thats cus the list is pretty fair overall

[golden plover]

I think it's fine, other than Hauntwoods turning Leyline on instantly

And Zur either shouldn't give hexproof or should've been for the turn

[twilit canyon]

then it'd be unplayable

[golden plover]

I think 1-2 mana but for the turn would've felt a lot better tbh

Only because you've gotta double remove when it can come out of nowhere

[stark skiff]

Building up a Captain America deck and was just wondering if i missed anything? Got slot for 9 more cards so any tips would be welcome since its the first time i venture to this kind of deck lol

https://www.archidekt.com/decks/10599364/captain_america

[glad peak]

On first look I don’t see any glaring problems

Into the flood maw might be too good not to include unless I missed it

You might want dovin’s veto or silence but I don’t think you’re really trying to kill in 1 turn either

[stark skiff]

Yeah I was holding the slots open for maybe any synergy cards I missed. Otherwise I was just gonna slap staples in those spots.

[trail anvil]

it's all fine, every meta deck has some broken synergy rn

dimir can draw 5 off curiosity or 5 off mastermind over turns, golgari has every value creature under the sun, monowhite draws 4 every token generated, etc

[zinc shard]

I do not condone roping and you should never do it.
HOWEVER
I played against an Eluge deck that countered my commander, turned it into a monk, then took control of it. And they just cast [[Discontinuity]] when i tried to kill my commander to get it back

So if they want to play the game by themselves? They can play the game by themselves.

[lost widget]

https://scryfall.com/card/m21/48/discontinuity

Discontinuity <:mana3:292901508771610624><:manau:292901508754702338><:manau:292901508754702338><:manau:292901508754702338>

Instant
During your turn, this spell costs less to cast.
End the turn. (Exile all spells and abilities from the stack, including this card. The player whose turn it is discards down to their maximum hand size. Damage wears off, and "this turn" and "until end of turn" effects end.)

[trail anvil]

I'm ngl I just did something similar to a player

that said if you're facing eluge I think your commander is hell queue'd

[zinc shard]

probably, it was Prosper

[lusty trench]

Resisting the urge to say skill issue

prosper

the hell did you expect

[trail anvil]

[[housemeld]] this is way more disrespectful, especially when some colors don't have ways to get their commander back once you do this

[lost widget]

https://scryfall.com/card/ydsk/5/housemeld

Housemeld <:mana2:292901509060886528><:manau:292901508754702338><:manau:292901508754702338>

Sorcery
Exile target creature. The exiled card perpetually becomes an enchantment. Then put it onto the battlefield under your control. (It loses all other card types.)

[trail anvil]

doesn't let you put it in the command zone

[zinc shard]

should clarify i only roped them once then conceded

[trail anvil]

idk why blue needed this lol

[zinc shard]

I have made a terrible mistake

[past socket]

Is this a Gates deck?

[zinc shard]

its a draft

I got Maze's End first pack and said screw it

good news i got all 11 gates

[past socket]

Was just thinking it was a Gates deck though I don’t know if there actually is a strategy around getting gates

[zinc shard]

im about to find out

[past socket]

I believe you can in Commander at least

Saw one around [[Omo, Queen of Vesuvs]]

[lost widget]

https://scryfall.com/card/m3c/30/omo-queen-of-vesuva

Omo, Queen of Vesuva <:mana2:292901509060886528><:managu:292901509035851788>

Legendary Creature — Shapeshifter Noble
Whenever Omo, Queen of Vesuva enters or attacks, put an everything counter on each of up to one target land and up to one target creature.
Each land with an everything counter on it is every land type in addition to its other types.
Each nonland creature with an everything counter on it is every creature type.
1/5

[zinc shard]

yea it did not work

[copper pecan]

golos was the best gates commander but it got banned

[golden plover]

https://preview.redd.it/kjwtsufnp09e1.png?auto=webp&s=5cc5f9f0cd68977f11c86b2a80a773108669bc94

This daily deal fucking sucks

Really? All y'all could do was 10% off like 8 random packs?

Last year was 50% off a draft token, some gold, a 500 gold pack, and 500 gems for 400

[pulsar talon]

What are the forms of "playing cards for less mana than the original cost" that people like and dislike?

[last glen]

poggers
10% off one sixth of a rare wildcard progress

[golden plover]

Did you see last year's tho?

Oh this was 3 years ago

https://preview.redd.it/d9n0g2cer5761.png?width=1920&format=png&auto=webp&s=f72017bf288059cad7abe1598a4cb62509735788

But they did the same thing last year, just with 2 standard sets

Could've at least done 50% off the packs

Hell, 1 free pack wouldn't have done anything to the economy

Even pokemon pocket is doing better and they're STINGY

Free pack a day for like 7 days

[zinc shard]

Don't really mind cheating cards out, since it usually requires set-up

[sleek ferry]

I would say people dislike evoke

[[fury]]

[lost widget]

https://scryfall.com/card/mh2/126/fury

Fury <:mana3:292901508771610624><:manar:292901508796645397><:manar:292901508796645397>

Creature — Elemental Incarnation
Double strike
When Fury enters, it deals 4 damage divided as you choose among any number of target creatures and/or planeswalkers.
Evoke—Exile a red card from your hand.
3/3

[pulsar talon]

Why is that?

[glad peak]

I love force of will tho

[copper pecan]

people dislike 0 mana evoke

regular evoke is pretty well liked

people love [[mulldrifter]]

[lost widget]

https://scryfall.com/card/mkc/111/mulldrifter

Mulldrifter <:mana4:292901508712890379><:manau:292901508754702338>

Creature — Elemental
Flying
When Mulldrifter enters, draw two cards.
Evoke (You may cast this spell for its evoke cost. If you do, it's sacrificed when it enters.)
2/2

[past socket]

Stuff like Fury is where the fuckery happens ig

[zinc shard]

People usually combined these effects with cards like [[Supernatural Stamina]] So you get the ETB effect, your creature dies, comes back, you get the ETB again, and you get to keep the creature. All for 1 mana and a card from your hand.

[lost widget]

https://scryfall.com/card/cmm/188/supernatural-stamina

Supernatural Stamina <:manab:292901508872273920>

Instant
Until end of turn, target creature gets +2/+0 and gains "When this creature dies, return it to the battlefield tapped under its owner's control."
"All are not equal—neither in life nor after death. Bontu's favorites will stand highest in eternity." —Senifet, vizier of Bontu

[copper pecan]

man they really did have fucking be a mechanic in the furry set huh

[gritty nest]

is there any funny commanders you can steal with [[Come Back Wrong]] that you guys can think of?

[lost widget]

https://scryfall.com/card/dsk/86/come-back-wrong

Come Back Wrong <:mana2:292901509060886528><:manab:292901508872273920>

Sorcery
Destroy target creature. If a creature card is put into a graveyard this way, return it to the battlefield under your control. Sacrifice it at the beginning of your next end step.
"See?! That's why you always burn the bodies." —Rip, spawn hunter

[gritty nest]

"fucking like jack rabbits"

[zinc shard]

not really, cuz when the commander dies they can just put it back in the command zone

[trail anvil]

only when it gets sacrificed

[gritty nest]

not until the end of turn

[trail anvil]

there's not much to steal, but it's more hilarious to run come back wrong in [[obeka, brute chronologist]]

[lost widget]

https://scryfall.com/card/cmr/289/obeka-brute-chronologist

Obeka, Brute Chronologist <:mana1:292901508373282827><:manau:292901508754702338><:manab:292901508872273920><:manar:292901508796645397>

Legendary Creature — Ogre Wizard
: The player whose turn it is may end the turn. (Exile all spells and abilities from the stack. The player whose turn it is discards down to their maximum hand size. Damage wears off, and "this turn" and "until end of turn" effects end.)
"I'm bored with now."
3/4

[trail anvil]

3 mana gain control spell

anything that's worth stealing is just a commander with an etb effect

[past socket]

This sounds super funny in Be’lakor too

[tropic cape]

Bleh. I sort of built out a random commander deck to play my favorite bad card, but alas….. we are at 124 atm… I hate this part

especially since it's not supposed to be inheritly comeptitive or anything, so it even harder to find the fat to trim

[glad peak]

What card?

[gritty nest]

[[neerdiv, Devious Diver]] self mill, what do you guys think?

[lost widget]

https://scryfall.com/card/j25/36/neerdiv-devious-diver

Neerdiv, Devious Diver <:mana2:292901509060886528><:manau:292901508754702338>

Legendary Creature — Merfolk Rogue
Whenever Neerdiv, Devious Diver becomes tapped, target player mills cards equal to its power.
Whenever you cast a spell from your graveyard or activate an ability of a card in your graveyard, draw a card and put a +1/+1 counter on Neerdiv.
2/2

[glad peak]

I wish she had red

[trail anvil]

I feel like she's a lot better in the 99 than as a commander. you can do monocolor graveyard stuff but it doesn't sound like it'll have enough good options to justify her space in the command zone

[past socket]

Merfolk Rogue

Sygg my beloved

[trail anvil]

if she did have red like mudkip said then you could use some kind of pop off card like underworld breach but as-is she seems eh

[past socket]

I imagine ot takes a special kind of card to be awesome in both the Command Zone and the 99

[trail anvil]

unrelated but I never knew how powerful it feels to win through commandeer on alrund's epiphany before today, goddamn

[trail anvil]

eh, I think a lot of good commanders are also good in the 99. the bigger thing with being good in the command zone is what colors you have access to and whether your commander can go well with the rest of your deck (or just be such a good value piece to justify being there regardless)

[gritty nest]

mono blue has a bunch of flashback stuff

[sudden lava]

They are already scalping the precons 💀

the only good deal one I could find was gamestop, and they RANDOMIZE the precon you get

[gritty nest]

Ew

It’s not even February yet

[sudden lava]

https://www.tcgplayer.com/product/604258/magic-commander-aetherdrift-aetherdrift-commander-deck-living-energy?page=1&Language=English Like why is this 11 bucks over MSRP?

Only place I could find the 45 bucks for is on Amazon, and Amazon has already messed up on pass magic cards so how can I trust them

Oh its 52 now

[copper pecan]

how good is [[knight of the white orchid]] in brawl?

[lost widget]

https://scryfall.com/card/moc/193/knight-of-the-white-orchid

Knight of the White Orchid <:manaw:1007102126813610074><:manaw:1007102126813610074>

Creature — Human Knight
First strike
When Knight of the White Orchid enters, if an opponent controls more lands than you, you may search your library for a Plains card, put it onto the battlefield, then shuffle.
Both guide and guard on open plain.
2/2

[copper pecan]

i'm considering crafting a copy of it for heliod

[golden plover]

Aggressively mid

[zinc shard]

I may actually have to start buying Mythic Duskmourn packs cuz I need the Overlords

[gritty nest]

Arena?

[trail anvil]

I don't think mythic packs exist outside arena

I've only been pulling duskmourn lately cause it has so much useful stuff though, so mood

[twilit canyon]

couldnt be me i 100%ed dsk months ago

[trail anvil]

I'm not good enough at magic nor rich enough to do that

but actually I should be pulling mh3 too just cause that set is bonkers

[gritty nest]

i wasnt sure, since I dont play arena

also, thoughts on [[Ygra, Eater of All]]?

[lost widget]

https://scryfall.com/card/blb/241/ygra-eater-of-all

Ygra, Eater of All <:mana3:292901508771610624><:manab:292901508872273920><:manag:292901508654301185>

Legendary Creature — Elemental Cat
Ward—Sacrifice a Food.
Other creatures are Food artifacts in addition to their other types and have ", , Sacrifice this permanent: You gain 3 life."
Whenever a Food is put into a graveyard from the battlefield, put two +1/+1 counters on Ygra, Eater of All.
6/6

[rigid scarab]

Enables really cool stuff

Like going infinite with cauldron familiar

[gritty nest]

Yea, don’t you need like 2 familiars for that?

[rigid scarab]

Yes

But the deck you play them in is milling a lot

And can easily find 2 cats

[golden plover]

I love how the second that mouse comes down t1 I can tell the game is gonna be bad lol

[barren cairn]

remembered i have the gimbal precon

and honestly i want to work with it because gimbal seems fun but it really plays like a worse tricolor urza

and rashimi and ragavan plays like prosper and i already have prosper

i'm trying to see what to cut so far, and i'm thinking weirding wood, everquill phoenix, struggle/survive, and ichor elixir so far

[gritty nest]

https://www.moxfield.com/decks/tG2LlxeyR02wBnheK84Ktw

[gritty nest]

I tore that deck apart and used it to build [[Third Doctor]] and [[Dan Lewis]] tbh

[lost widget]

https://scryfall.com/card/who/162/the-third-doctor

The Third Doctor <:mana2:292901509060886528><:manag:292901508654301185><:manau:292901508754702338>

Legendary Creature — Time Lord Doctor
Trample
The Third Doctor gets +1/+1 for each noncreature token you control.
When The Third Doctor enters, create your choice of a Clue token, a Food token, or a Treasure token.
"It's rather a pity, in a way. Now the universe is down to 699 wonders."
2/2

https://scryfall.com/card/who/78/dan-lewis

Dan Lewis <:mana1:292901508373282827><:manar:292901508796645397>

Legendary Creature — Human
Noncreature, non-Equipment artifacts you control are Equipment in addition to their other types and have "Equipped creature gets +1/+0" and equip .
Doctor's companion (You can have two commanders if the other is the Doctor.)
"What's your plan? Some clever sciencey-spacey thing I won't understand?"
2/2

[barren cairn]

i want to like gimbal but

man it legit is just worse urza

[copper pecan]

[gimbal]

[[gimbal]]

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https://scryfall.com/card/moc/3/gimbal-gremlin-prodigy

Gimbal, Gremlin Prodigy <:mana2:292901509060886528><:manag:292901508654301185><:manau:292901508754702338><:manar:292901508796645397>

Legendary Creature — Gremlin Artificer
Artifact creatures you control have trample.
At the beginning of your end step, create a 0/0 red Gremlin artifact creature token. Put X +1/+1 counters on it, where X is the number of differently named artifact tokens you control.
You are what you eat, and everything he'd eaten was brilliant.
4/4

[barren cairn]

i did swap out a few cards

currently swapping in gleaming geardrake, volo, iterant scholar, descent into avernus, and case of the filched falcon

[trail anvil]

afaik gimbal's precon is one of the worst we've gotten in recent memory

he himself seems overcosted to me but maybe you could make it work with chunky artifact creatures

[golden plover]

If he was just Temur he'd be fine

But 5 total???

Are you stupid

5 has to be [[Elsha of the Infinite]] level

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https://scryfall.com/card/2x2/208/elsha-of-the-infinite

Elsha of the Infinite <:mana2:292901509060886528><:manau:292901508754702338><:manar:292901508796645397><:manaw:1007102126813610074>

Legendary Creature — Djinn Monk
Prowess (Whenever you cast a noncreature spell, this creature gets +1/+1 until end of turn.)
You may look at the top card of your library any time.
You may cast noncreature spells from the top of your library. If you cast a spell this way, you may cast it as though it had flash.
3/3

[craggy moss]

[[grolnok]]

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https://scryfall.com/card/vow/238/grolnok-the-omnivore

Grolnok, the Omnivore <:mana2:292901509060886528><:manag:292901508654301185><:manau:292901508754702338>

Legendary Creature — Frog
Whenever a Frog you control attacks, mill three cards.
Whenever a permanent card is put into your graveyard from your library, exile it with a croak counter on it.
You may play lands and cast spells from among cards you own in exile with croak counters on them.
3/3

[trail anvil]

yeah idk maybe they were scared of trample or something

[barren cairn]

I guess I'm just trying to make it work

It's probably still gonna be mid

[trail anvil]

you can play mid commanders, that's what casual edh is for

[barren cairn]

Not like I'll really be playtesting it anytime soon

Most of my friends dropped off commander pretty hard

But I liked it more than Rashmi Ragavan

I got the precon for 25$ half a year ago

It's bc I already play prosper and rashrag is just that again with artifacts

[barren cairn]

I just kinda wanted to improve the fun gimmick deck

[glad peak]

Based friends

[barren cairn]

Now I get to die in Warhammer because I picked the wrong army for low point casual games

[gritty nest]

imo I dont think even being 3 mana for that effect is worth

https://www.moxfield.com/decks/tG2LlxeyR02wBnheK84Ktw I need to cut 1 card, what should I cut you guys think?

[gritty nest]

would it be cheaper overall to buy the Grand Larceny precon for $50 and buy the few upgrades I need for the deck, or buy 60 singles missing from the bit of stuff i have already? my decklist is $125, and the upgrades are roughly $30

[trail anvil]

couldn't you compare the prices directly?

[gritty nest]

yea i was dumb

[ornate cedar]

I realized something. Why run cut down when I can play sheltered by ghosts?

In orzhov specifically

[rigid scarab]

SBG is sorcery speed and is prone to enchantment removal

And is also 1 more mana

[trail anvil]

and is reliant on keeping a creature on board, which in a meta with this much removal is a moderately tall ask

it is still a ridiculous rate though

[golden plover]

Also, they can kill your guy in response to SBG

They've gotta kill their own guy in response to counterspell

[gritty nest]

have any of you played Azorious vehicles?

[gritty nest]

i need your guys opinion

[[Alistair]] or [[Urza, Chief Artificer]] for a vehicle commander?

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https://scryfall.com/card/who/112/alistair-the-brigadier

Alistair, the Brigadier <:mana1:292901508373282827><:manag:292901508654301185><:manaw:1007102126813610074><:manau:292901508754702338>

Legendary Creature — Human Soldier
Whenever you cast a historic spell, create a 1/1 white Soldier creature token. (Artifacts, legendaries, and Sagas are historic.)
Whenever Alistair attacks, you may pay . If you do, creatures you control get +X/+X until end of turn, where X is the number of historic permanents you control.
3/3

https://scryfall.com/card/brc/2/urza-chief-artificer

Urza, Chief Artificer <:mana3:292901508771610624><:manaw:1007102126813610074><:manau:292901508754702338><:manab:292901508872273920>

Legendary Creature — Human Artificer
Affinity for artifact creatures (This spell costs less to cast for each artifact creature you control.)
Artifact creatures you control have menace.
At the beginning of your end step, create a 0/0 colorless Construct artifact creature token with "This creature gets +1/+1 for each artifact you control."
4/5

[golden plover]

I like Shoraki and Kotori

[sudden lava]

https://i.redd.it/7dubwm6v3q9e1.png

Gamestop is a joke

[gritty nest]

I only go there when they have shit I can’t find anywhere else

[gritty nest]

https://moxfield.com/decks/V6L5WtI8RESPDEbaY2LpgA

[tropic cape]

Sorry lol, ended up digging deep to get the deck list done, now after playing i definitely have fine tuning to do but i did almost win in low power

[[Leviathan]]

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https://scryfall.com/card/tsb/23/leviathan

Leviathan <:mana5:292901508796645386><:manau:292901508754702338><:manau:292901508754702338><:manau:292901508754702338><:manau:292901508754702338>

Creature — Leviathan
Trample
Leviathan enters tapped and doesn't untap during your untap step.
At the beginning of your upkeep, you may sacrifice two Islands. If you do, untap Leviathan.
Leviathan can't attack unless you sacrifice two Islands. (This cost is paid as attackers are declared.)
10/10

[tropic cape]

Also made this for a friend who plays frogs now y'all have to endure it

ill post the moxfield of the leviathan deck that i had sorted out atm, currently trying to get my hands on some cards that I didnt have, essentially the deck is "yeah thats a lot of high power cards but like... im just gambling with kenessos to hit the feesh"

[tropic cape]

heres the moxfield, sideboard is cards i pulled to bring it to 100, either because i wasnt sure how important it was, or i had a proxy and it wasnt critical, considering is stuff im considering bringing in to make the wincons a bit more consistent(so far really just hullbreaker shenanigans is all i got, but there are other things like maybe infinite storm stuff i may be able to do) https://www.moxfield.com/decks/qA-fB3EH2EStiGRM50T4RA

any suggestions welcome, given i do want to keep it to the theme of just summoning beeg feesh, and trying to minimize the amount of non beeg feesh in it as its more of a deck for fun. Given i may add kinnan and say "yeah hes pretty much a leviathan, just like how walking ballista is an adopted leviathan"

[gritty nest]

i ordered 3 decks worth of cards just now

[zinc shard]

https://youtu.be/Vj0_PFO1Rlk?si=hlMyFAccrDx93jIc

[sudden lava]

||Not even a quarter of the cash back ||

https://x.com/TolarianCollege/status/1873762588317847896

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Next monday is the prerelease episode

[zinc shard]

Draft Token in store

[past socket]

I am upset that I only just now found out about the top tier pun name that is [[Attempted Murder]]

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https://scryfall.com/card/unf/66/attempted-murder

Attempted Murder <:manax:292901509082120202><:manab:292901508872273920><:manab:292901508872273920>

Sorcery
Choose target creature. Roll X six-sided dice. For each even result, put two -1/-1 counters on that creature. For each odd result, create a 1/2 blue Bird creature token with flying named Storm Crow.
Squawks was quick to establish the social pecking order.

[sudden lava]

Un-cards be that way

its no murmuration tho

https://cards.scryfall.io/large/front/5/6/561c9c4e-942e-40e8-b5f2-ac709a502f18.jpg?1721428175

(or crow storm for another un card that makes storm crows)

[past socket]

I see, though Attempted Murder is more for my boi [[Mr House]] in order to make my crippling gambling addiction love of Treasure Tokens everyone else’s problem

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https://scryfall.com/card/pip/7/mr-house-president-and-ceo

Mr. House, President and CEO <:manar:292901508796645397><:manaw:1007102126813610074><:manab:292901508872273920>

Legendary Artifact Creature — Human
Whenever you roll a 4 or higher, create a 3/3 colorless Robot artifact creature token. If you rolled 6 or higher, instead create that token and a Treasure token.
, : Roll a six-sided die plus an additional six-sided die for each mana from Treasures spent to activate this ability.
0/4

[sudden lava]

That's fair, roll the dice to your heart's content.

(also remember you can rig Mr. House with some of the D&D stuff, a 6 is a low roll when you're rolling d20s)

Note: "ignore" erases the die result for Mr. House

[past socket]

Also just a lot of generally cool cards that happen to be D20’s

Several ancient dragons, Hoarding Ogre, Delina, Component Pouch, etc.

[past socket]

So gotta be careful I suppose of stuff like Wyll, Blade of Frontiers or Barbarian Class

[gritty nest]

It can still be helpful

If you’re rolling other dice that aren’t d20s it can still help

[past socket]

Helping your other Die Roll abilities and such

Even if you don’t get the House triggers

Another fun kind in the Mr House rabbit hole for me was [[Swiftfoot Rogue]]

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No card found for “Swiftfoot Rogue”

[past socket]

Sorry [[Lightfoot Rogue]]

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https://scryfall.com/card/afr/111/lightfoot-rogue

Lightfoot Rogue <:mana1:292901508373282827><:manab:292901508872273920>

Creature — Halfling Rogue
Sneak Attack — Whenever Lightfoot Rogue attacks, roll a d20.
1—9 | Lightfoot Rogue gains deathtouch until end of turn.
10—19 | It gets +1/+0 and gains deathtouch until end of turn.
20 | It gets +3/+0 and gains first strike and deathtouch until end of turn.
2/1

[gritty nest]

Yea I ran him too

https://moxfield.com/decks/kvKQgCDkmUmkQ1kjpJwAPg

[past socket]

Simple d20 that can also guarantee some chip damage if one doesn’t wanna risk the Deathtouch

Alongside all the burn actively coming people’s way

[gritty nest]

Yea

Obviously token doublers would help the deck too, remove the bauble heads imo cuz they’re uh

shit

[past socket]

Mr House just feels like this blissful marriage between Gamba and Artifacts Matter

[gritty nest]

Or at the very least 2-3 baubles

[past socket]

Yeah the bobbleheads defo are super gimmicky

[gritty nest]

They were on theme though

[past socket]

Flavour W for sure at least

Also not entirely sure on Lae’zel’s Acrobatics, wouldn’t Mr House not see the dice roll since he gets exiled?

[gritty nest]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[past socket]

Flavourful as hell wipe at least

Especially if you high roll on it

[gritty nest]

It’s a wipe dodge though

[sudden lava]

Still helpful to increase chance of high roll, even if they dont count as another die result for House purposes

[urban crane]

Fancy cardboard

[past socket]

Oh hey, saw that guy while searching for D20’s for Mr House, Ancient Copper Dragon

Whole set of strong ancients for Mr House as well with [[Ancient Brass Dragon]] and [[Ancient Gold Dragon]]

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https://scryfall.com/card/clb/111/ancient-brass-dragon

Ancient Brass Dragon <:mana5:292901508796645386><:manab:292901508872273920><:manab:292901508872273920>

Creature — Elder Dragon
Flying
Whenever Ancient Brass Dragon deals combat damage to a player, roll a d20. When you do, put any number of target creature cards with total mana value X or less from graveyards onto the battlefield under your control, where X is the result.
7/6

https://scryfall.com/card/clb/3/ancient-gold-dragon

Ancient Gold Dragon <:mana5:292901508796645386><:manaw:1007102126813610074><:manaw:1007102126813610074>

Creature — Elder Dragon
Flying
Whenever Ancient Gold Dragon deals combat damage to a player, roll a d20. You create a number of 1/1 blue Faerie Dragon creature tokens with flying equal to the result.
7/10

[urban crane]

Yep

[past socket]

Grass grows, birds fly, sun shines and brother, the fog is coming. You need to run

[glad peak]

Strong is… relative