Magic the Gathering

[twilit canyon]

that is sure-fire mark to say that the format is not doing well when a team is focusing more resources on a project

[past socket]

A niche format doing fine ig?

[twilit canyon]

its more than niche

its more popular than pioneer

if alchemy was not doing well, we wouldnt keep getting alchemy sets

data would show downward trajectory in the format

[copper pecan]

yeah it's been like 3 years now, i think if the format was doing badly they would have stopped doing it by now

[trail anvil]

why's historic always so popular?

[twilit canyon]

huge card pool

[trail anvil]

timeless is the hugest, is it just too fast for people?

[golden plover]

Timeless has a HUGE entry cost

Every playable deck is like 20+ rares and 15+ mythics

I'd imagine that doesn't help

[trail anvil]

oh fair enough, especially with fetches

[twilit canyon]

huge barrier of entry + play patterns that are very fast

[golden plover]

Fetches, Shocks, and any other rare lands before even considering your deck

Timeless Bo1 is also show and tell hell

Can't imagine that's helpful either

But yeah this is a good change, guess they won't be doing it for the previous ones?

I'd love to craft frogmyr as a common

[twilit canyon]

no its not retroactive

[golden plover]

That sucks

Glad it's happening at all

But half these special guest cards shouldn't be mythic lol

Wait I just realized the article doesn't answer an important question

Are the 3 UB sets every year getting Alchemy releases?

That'll DEFINITELY piss off collectors if so

[twilit canyon]

we dont know yet if they will or not

[golden plover]

It'd make the most sense since we're losing 50% of real sets a year

But it'd also piss off collectors if like Deadpool or whoever are alchemy exclusive

[copper pecan]

?

what do you mean "losing 50% of real sets"

there's one fewer in universe set than normal next year

[golden plover]

Well 1 less premier for standard, one less non-standard (ie: Commander Masters)

[copper pecan]

there wasn't going to be one of those in the first place

[golden plover]

There's usually one I thought

[young dirge]

Whats the most greedy deck in modern rn

[twilit canyon]

hm

[young dirge]

Whats hm?

[zinc shard]

define greedy

[young dirge]

Well decks that have options they can go into when the state of the game is slow enough that usually they would be punished if they went for said options

i guess what im looking for is a greedy control deck

[twilit canyon]

i just hmm as in i was thinking about it

but i cant really think of something in that description

if you are greedy in modern you hard lose to many decks

[young dirge]

rip

[glad peak]

yorion

[twilit canyon]

banned

[glad peak]

yorion + lurrus

[gritty nest]

Ban yourself

[stark skiff]

WTF the marvel sld dropped? Thought it was tomorrow and missed it

[zinc shard]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fd6gM-Yxi7g

[stark skiff]

That’s not news but I didn’t even get a shot at it

[last glen]

was it just instantly sold out
or was there other stuff too

[zinc shard]

There was an hour+ queue for people who tried to buy as soon as the store opened

[gritty nest]

Not a disaster for wotc, the product sold

[zinc shard]

also apparently there was an exploit to get into the queue before the sale even went live

and another exploit to bypass the queue altogether

[stark skiff]

I figured you guys woulda talked about it so I didn’t bother checking

[trail anvil]

you're expecting that out of the wrong server lol

[last glen]

we all know to check the yugioh server for the most on-the-pulse mtg updates

[zinc shard]

https://www.reddit.com/r/custommagic/comments/1gje566/steamed_hams_but_its_magic_the_gathering_cards/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web3x&utm_name=web3xcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button

[trail anvil]

friends, is this a good draft?

shame I didn't get a shroudstomper and all the rares were junk, but I think I did decently otherwise

[fallow citrus]

https://vxtwitter.com/thejesguy/status/1853488883113062619?t=osq7TU6sJat4dfeFJFcj7A&s=19

[trail anvil]

hey they already ran out anyways, might as well

[sleek ferry]

depends, did you win?

[trail anvil]

I didn't play it cause I was drunk and I couldn't figure out what to cut

[golden plover]

Fun game

[trail anvil]

bo1-ass deck

[subtle sierra]

Me when i play black

[golden plover]

I lost the whole match to it too

All because I couldn't draw cards game 3

What the fuck

[sleek ferry]

me when my daily quest is "Kill 25 of your opponent's creatures"*

Also ngl

While standard is super diverse rn, I'm actually kinda bored of it. I think I burned myself out

[sleek ferry]

It’s always funny when ranked resets and I get put in like gold or plat

“Yeah let me overextend, nothing bad will happen”

[golden plover]

Standard is really diverse but I feel like I only get put into matches against Golgari or Gruul

Like Dimir is the best deck and I'm not seeing it at all rn

[gritty nest]

Do I build Kalamax storm or Storm storm?

[lusty trench]

https://x.com/seraph_six/status/1853542386791813362?t=lmAvNqKSciMf4rVSqLFiSQ&s=19

Logan // Seraph Six (@seraph_six) on X

LOL at the @TCGplayer sellers scalping the now-sold-out @MTGSecretLair Avengers Arcane Signet for these prices. Look a the quantities listed as available. That's so much resale product that didn't go direct to consumers. Worst way to do this.

Twitter · Nov 4, 2024, 8:58 PM

This isn't even for a lair

It's for the damn signet

[golden plover]

That signet is ugly as hell, but this is fucked up

Returning to super limited run lairs sucks

[gritty nest]

Having a hybrid system would be the best for consumers but probably the worst logistically for the company, but it’s still the best answer imo

[golden plover]

Print to order works just fine tbh

[gritty nest]

Have none made in advance I’m assuming so in case the product doesn’t sell it’s not sitting?

[golden plover]

That's what they used to do

[gritty nest]

Huh, I thought they pre printed and print on demand

[golden plover]

They are now

They changed that like a year ago

[gritty nest]

Well pre printed limited quantity now

[glad peak]

They probably know they’re leaving money on the table by printing so little in advance

They have enough data to know how much to print by now and if they don’t then I’m worried for them

Print on demand is a logistical nightmare but gives perfect data

[zinc shard]

Holy shit

[sleek ferry]

holy, your luck is cracked

[zinc shard]

oh not me, thats from Goldfish's video

[gritty nest]

So like

Is this the new anime borderless frame?

[sleek ferry]

we consider this anime?

[golden plover]

They literally call this anime

[gritty nest]

I’ll take that as a yes with a question mark as the answer lol

[fallow citrus]

what is anime about this

[trail anvil]

I feel like I see dimir the most when I bring dimir 😭

[golden plover]

That's what WoTC calls the style

Japanese artist? Designed to try and get in the Japanese market? Anime

[fallow citrus]

sounds like how the mtg reddit responds to seeing art like that too at least

[golden plover]

I mean, it's officially called anime art

Didn't wanna scroll through the foundations one to find him, but they call it anime treatment

[fallow citrus]

yeah I understand that

but it also reflects mtg reddit perfectly

[golden plover]

I guess it's also probably just easier to say "anime art" than "anime-adjacent art from a Japanese artist"

[golden plover]

@copper pecan I'm sick of these commander designs in roborosewater

(Obviously joking, this card fucks)

I guess it's playable in limited?

[glad peak]

Great reference to when day breaks

[zinc shard]

Cast Platinum Angel
Cast Daybreak the Gods targeting myself

Make a 2/2 for 10 mana, busted

[glad peak]

You would make a 2/2 regardless of who you choose

[zinc shard]

Yea but this way cost more mana so it must be better

[atomic harness]

grrr animu? In my western fantasy card game?! Preposterous, absurd!!

(kidding, affectionate)

[subtle sierra]

edit of a meme i stole

[ornate cedar]

Is this loss?

/s

[copper pecan]

i'm playing the midweek magic event right now and i'm really enjoying it

i drafted a pretty good golgari midrange deck

[trail anvil]

mine was jeskai rooms and I went 3-1. not too bad

[zinc shard]

I went 3-2 with an esper enchantment deck

[polar lake]

trying to get jund delirium to work in standard

[trail anvil]

what benefit does jund have over gruul?

[copper pecan]

jund lets you run the 3/2 with haste

[[wildfire wickerfolk]]

[lost widget]

https://scryfall.com/card/dsk/239/wildfire-wickerfolk

Wildfire Wickerfolk <:manar:292901508796645397><:manag:292901508654301185>

Artifact Creature — Scarecrow
Haste
Delirium — Wildfire Wickerfolk gets +1/+1 and has trample as long as there are four or more card types among cards in your graveyard.
"Isn't fire supposed to kill those things?" —Tyvar
3/2

[polar lake]

thats gruul tho

[twilit canyon]

so then why jund

what's black doing for u

[last glen]

probably prepping GY with bonus types with mills, discards, and sacs

[atomic harness]

Cut down

[polar lake]

i just like jund

[twilit canyon]

aight

i mean

the mana is there

but idk if u need to go jund

[glad peak]

sheoldred

[sleek ferry]

I mean you could run black overlord ig

[trail anvil]

and bat

[twilit canyon]

bat's not a jund card

at least not in the way a delirium aggro list would wanna be

[trail anvil]

yeah fair, probably no good way to pump it?

there is that 2 mana 2/2 artifact creature with delirium?

[polar lake]

https://www.moxfield.com/decks/bvGBXmU8DEyNqdFH3i6w3Q

thoughts?

[twilit canyon]

nah cus delirium is specific

u play shit like [[fear of missing out]]

[lost widget]

https://scryfall.com/card/dsk/136/fear-of-missing-out

Fear of Missing Out <:mana1:292901508373282827><:manar:292901508796645397>

Enchantment Creature — Nightmare
When Fear of Missing Out enters, discard a card, then draw a card.
Delirium — Whenever Fear of Missing Out attacks for the first time each turn, if there are four or more card types among cards in your graveyard, untap target creature. After this phase, there is an additional combat phase.
2/3

[twilit canyon]

wildfire wickerfolk

okay to put it in perspective

being a delirium deck

you wanna be curving

bestie or maverick or scout t1

t2 fear or wickerfolk

3 flytrap

you're using cards like torch the tower, violent urge, and such to enable delirium more easily

bat would: make your mana worse

this is the worst offense primarily

3c mana bases arent hard but they arent totally free especially for an aggro deck

2nd: bat isnt going to contribute to delirium on a dead fear or wickerfolk

and 3: bat is weak

besides maverick or scout, every creature in this deck has power 3 or attacks as at least power 3 (fear attacks twice for power 4 on its own)

[polar lake]

so no jund for delirium

[twilit canyon]

flytrap is enough of a finisher

[twilit canyon]

not unless you have perfect mana like in modern

modern jund delirium is a good deck

its not gonna play bat

you curve 1 drop aggressive big guy

2 drop aggressive guy

3 drop aggressive guy

game basically ends there

and honestly jund delirium is quite a cool deck in modern too

rather cheap + extracts so much value from its creatures

nethergoyf in the deck is consistently 4+ power

it has reach + grind

and its capable of stumping just about any deck with some clear favorites

especially games 2 and 3

[past socket]

So is Jund basically just Gruul but with the addition of black mana shenanigans?

[twilit canyon]

ah

right

u are new to magic terminology

jund is the specific name of a plane of magic

the main colors of the plane are black/red/green

ergo, the color combo is now called jund

[past socket]

and Gruul being green/red if memory serves me right?

[twilit canyon]

yep

named as such because of the guilds of ravnica

all 10 guilds define the 2 color pair names

whereas the shards of alara define one half of the 3 color pairs, and the khans of tarkir define the other half of the 3 color pairs

ravnica guilds
azorius: blue/white
orzhov: white/black
dimir: blue/black
rakdos: red/black
golgari: black/green
selesnya: white/green
boros: red/white
izzet: red/blue
simic: blue/green

and of course not to forget

gruul

greed/red

shards of alara block involved 5 3 color pairs
esper: blue/black/white
bant: white/blue/green
jund: red/green/black
naya: red/green/white
grixis: blue/black/red

and the khans of tarkir got the other 5
jeskai: white/blue/red (also used to be called america)
abzan: white/black/green
sultai: black/blue/green (also called bug for the color shortners)
mardu: white/black/red
temur: blue/red/green

[subtle sierra]

Uhh question, what were they called before alara?

[twilit canyon]

nothing

and/or meme names

[subtle sierra]

Just the colors?

[twilit canyon]

yeah

naya often was called little kid

[subtle sierra]

The fuck

[twilit canyon]

holdover from when selesnya (green/white) before it was a name, was called little kid

since its the "little kid colors"

the color pair for kids

you just play big dumb simple creatures. a deck for little kids

[subtle sierra]

Ah i see so my hate for selesnya is validated

[twilit canyon]

lol

well its also just a case of the pair is still despite everything

kind of bad/mid

so it hasnt escaped being the weakest pair

[subtle sierra]

I hate it cause i hated the enchanment deck

When it was like 1 or 2 rotations ago

[twilit canyon]

ultimately tho the 3c pairs also often were called by the elder dragon they were paired to

but that never caught on

arcades = bant
teneb = abzan
intet = temur
bolas = grixis
palladia or rith = naya
numot = jeskai

theres more but they never went anywhere

[past socket]

Even noticed some themes from different mana types as a singular

[twilit canyon]

yeah

[past socket]

Black liking Life and grave manipulation, Blue loving themselves some Instants and Sorceries, green going for lots of lands over time

[twilit canyon]

there are mono-color cards that have clear design space of the 2c pair that they share

but yeah each color itself has a theme

[subtle sierra]

They sometimes break it tho

[twilit canyon]

ye

there is also something each color generally doesnt do well at all

white is still pretty bad at drawing cards raw

blue cannot kill a permanent for the life of it (efficiently)

black sees an artifact or enchantment and it cannot beat it (generally)

red cannot kill enchantments and its removal is purely damage-based

green cannot kill anything well without creatures in play

white and black have undisputed best removal

black for single target. white for multi-creatures

[past socket]

And that leads into all these clans, khans and shards

[twilit canyon]

blue counters spells the most and plays at instant speed, red plays super cheap spells as a whole

[glad peak]

Abzan was junk and Sultai was bug

[twilit canyon]

green loves huge creatures

oh i forgot about junk

called such because it was garbage

even naya had picked up relevance with brian kibbler

[subtle sierra]

Having multiple colors covers the other colors' weaknesses, so them having multiple colors is both thematic and good gameplay wise

Something i like about their design

[twilit canyon]

its also lore based

[subtle sierra]

(Now if we got rid of lands)

[glad peak]

Temur was called rug lol

[twilit canyon]

the mardu clan was full of super aggressive but meritocratic group of raiders that was very cutthroat

[glad peak]

Or Canadian depending on who you ask

[twilit canyon]

cus of the abbreviation yeah

[glad peak]

For the others I don’t really remember

[twilit canyon]

the rock was always purely gb but ik ppl called jund the rock too

[glad peak]

Yeah and they were wrong

[past socket]

Hearing the term Mardu Aristocrats when it came to the discussion of Eddie Markov and the rest of Eminence Gang just made me think of the “The Aristocrats” bit

[glad peak]

Jeskai was called American or French

[twilit canyon]

it was always american 🦅 🦅 🦅

[past socket]

Someone asking the name of their deck when they’ve seen it play and the player answering “THE ARISTOCRATS!”

[twilit canyon]

well

the reason is because white and black often like sacrifice

but so does red/black

but not all mardu decks in magic's history have been sacrifice decks

[glad peak]

I think the first big one was aristocrats and that’s where that name stuck

I might be forgetting some niche aggro deck though

[twilit canyon]

a few

[past socket]

Often will be exceptions to a rule

[twilit canyon]

but def after the aristocrat deck

there was also the various greasefang decks

mardu

mardu vehicles

in kaladesh

mardu has had vehicles twice lol

for such a niche subtype of card

[glad peak]

I actually can’t remember if Mardu was played before innistrad block lol

[twilit canyon]

shoot probs not

[glad peak]

But yeah I think that’s where they got the name

Canadian because Canadian threshold too

[twilit canyon]

that sounds right

tho idk specific old name reasons for older decks

i know a few

but not all

such as ponza

[glad peak]

Pickles is always fun

[twilit canyon]

or dead guy ale

or nic fit

or breakfast

four horsemen

[glad peak]

I don’t really get Canadian though

[past socket]

Pickles is one of the best names I’ve ever heard for a strategy ever

Like in any card game

[glad peak]

Or at least the story behind it

[twilit canyon]

me neither

[glad peak]

There’s Cheerios which was fun

[past socket]

Outside of a Lightsworn pile someone called Bumblefuck

[twilit canyon]

tinfins is fun

[glad peak]

Tinfins was a very funny deck

[twilit canyon]

its technically the meta now by killing everything that made it good

to make it good in the modern age

[glad peak]

It lives on?

Nice

[twilit canyon]

yeah it ditched its identity and went frog

frog too good

[glad peak]

Oof never mind not nice

Soul sisters is a bit on the nose

[past socket]

Heard the strategy name group hug though I’m pretty sure it’s a Commander exclusive thing

[twilit canyon]

it is

[glad peak]

Group slug is also commander exclusive

[twilit canyon]

the technical archetype that group hug falls into is stax

but its very clearly not stax

not in a traditional sense

[glad peak]

In effect though it just becomes stax which is always funny

[past socket]

Gonna guess group slug is group hug with about 500% more Slug creatures?

[glad peak]

I know people who absolutely hate stax but will build exclusively group hug

And then complain games go too long

[twilit canyon]

nah

its the antithesis

[glad peak]

Group slug is just stax but instead of preventing/making things cost more, you smack them for it

[twilit canyon]

it gives you shit, and punishes you for getting it

ie something like [[nekuzar]]

[lost widget]

No card found for “nekuzar”

[twilit canyon]

fuck

[[nekusar]]

[lost widget]

https://scryfall.com/card/cmm/349/nekusar-the-mindrazer

Nekusar, the Mindrazer <:mana2:292901509060886528><:manau:292901508754702338><:manab:292901508872273920><:manar:292901508796645397>

Legendary Creature — Zombie Wizard
At the beginning of each player's draw step, that player draws an additional card.
Whenever an opponent draws a card, Nekusar, the Mindrazer deals 1 damage to that player.
His enemies wondered if the lich king's brutal death and unnatural rebirth had been his plan all along.
2/4

[twilit canyon]

each player draws 1 extra, deals 1

and pair it with [[sheoldred the apocalypse]] and other draw punishers

[lost widget]

https://scryfall.com/card/dmu/107/sheoldred-the-apocalypse

Sheoldred, the Apocalypse <:mana2:292901509060886528><:manab:292901508872273920><:manab:292901508872273920>

Legendary Creature — Phyrexian Praetor
Deathtouch
Whenever you draw a card, you gain 2 life.
Whenever an opponent draws a card, they lose 2 life.
"Gix failed. I shall not."
4/5

[past socket]

So it’s using the commander to bully instead of be friends

[twilit canyon]

you are basically saying "sure, go ahead, draw another card. lose 3 life for it please."

"and now we will all draw a free 10 cards!"

thats 30 life please and thanks

[lusty trench]

Nekusars wheel of fortune, the wheel never lands on anything because it never stops

[past socket]

“Tax time!”

[lusty trench]

How much?

[twilit canyon]

30 life

[past socket]

Death

[twilit canyon]

you die on your next upkeep

[past socket]

: (

[twilit canyon]

i personally dont really care for the strat

[glad peak]

Orcish bowmasters is my favorite group slug piece

[twilit canyon]

if i play casual, im playing gonti

i like commander a lot (not really) so i make sure to play with more than 100 cards at all times

[lusty trench]

Casual commander players when you use steal effects (suddenly their cards aren't okay when they aren't the ones using them)

[twilit canyon]

im playing everyone else's deck every turn cycle at least

[glad peak]

Cards if they use it: casual fun cards
Cards if their opponent takes and uses them: cedh cancer

[twilit canyon]

lol

this is how i get myself uninvited from casual tables (it never works, gonti is popular in my area apparently)

[past socket]

Giving presents is alwaus fun : )

[twilit canyon]

giving?

ew

no im taking

[past socket]

Unfortunately my presents tend not to come with receipts

[glad peak]

I’ve had people actually try to argue that steal effects are cedh and not understanding the cards I played were cards they put into their decks but costing much more

[past socket]

and arent very fun

[twilit canyon]

woe, villainous wealth x = 20 target you

[past socket]

Blim and Jon have been some weird rabbit holes

[glad peak]

Giving presents is always fun, which is why I’ll give you [[illusions of grandeur]]

[lost widget]

https://scryfall.com/card/me1/40/illusions-of-grandeur

Illusions of Grandeur <:mana3:292901508771610624><:manau:292901508754702338>

Enchantment
Cumulative upkeep (At the beginning of your upkeep, put an age counter on this permanent, then sacrifice it unless you pay its upkeep cost for each age counter on it.)
When Illusions of Grandeur enters, you gain 20 life.
When Illusions of Grandeur leaves the battlefield, you lose 20 life.

[lusty trench]

The funniest shit is when you yoink their one wincon

[twilit canyon]

i will steal your wincon and kill you with it

if given the chance

[past socket]

Piracy on the high seas of Commander

[twilit canyon]

the only cedh card i play in gonti is praetor's grasp

because i know how to make someone super mad

[glad peak]

And praetor’s grasp is only cedh because of a tangential synergy lol

[past socket]

I just know I should be terrified if I see a certain extortionist

[lusty trench]

Don't gotta worry about him anymore

You're safe

[glad peak]

I’m terrified if I see dockside chef

[past socket]

They’ll be shivering my timbers in no time

[glad peak]

So my gf’s brother got into magic (commander of course, sadly) and has no idea what stax is

He gon learn today

I’ll be this man’s Justin wong

[twilit canyon]

lmao

the alternative is playing something to steal all his permanents

another option is doing something rude to the whole table

god i remember one of my 1st commander memories when getting into cedh

[glad peak]

I remember Magda looping grinding station + spine of ish sah destroying every land + any future permanents

[twilit canyon]

i was playing vs my sister in a pod in chicago and she played her keranos mld list that aims to nuke all permanents with an indestructible keranos in play

[glad peak]

Very funny

[twilit canyon]

abusing the fact that cedh lists very rarely play many lands

[past socket]

I just know the Pirates Life of MTG is cheating, stealing and treasure (tokens)

[twilit canyon]

letting keranos slowly kill the table

that was a miserable hour and a half

[copper pecan]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/507388259165536263/1304034613030551582/image0.jpg?ex=672dec5f&is=672c9adf&hm=10a61dc1bba77c5797d5b71c758417aca490ac6c649e8a8031d6c04ddff56903&=&format=webp&width=1060&height=662

[golden plover]

On the topic of old names for 3c decks - Naya also used to be "Christmas"

Because red/green/white were Christmas colors

And anything with Blue added to a guild was sometimes "wet (Guild)"

So Temur was Wet Gruul

[fallow citrus]

lmfao

[trail anvil]

I'm playing my wet Christmas omnath deck

[golden plover]

Lmao hate that

[sudden lava]

Nah, Group Hug wins through gaslighting where as Group Slug wins by punishing people for taking game actions

Like Lord of Pain. Your opponent could cast their spell but someone else is going to be damaged, and that player could cast something to get back at them.

The grouphug player pretends to be a beneficial source after all they are there to make sure everyone has a good time 😉 .
Groupslug players stabs everyone.
Overwhelming kindness vs everyone dies/greatly wounded now

[modern minnow]

grouphug is like weaponised complaining

[glad peak]

My favorite deck of all time: dark America

[sudden lava]

Marvel SL bonus cards are all Groot

https://tenor.com/view/groot-hi-hello-gotg-gif-15564812

[crystal ruin]

Anybody have the mtg discord?

[twilit canyon]

you can search for the official mtg discord and find it

[gritty nest]

Do I build Kalamax with Storm in the 99 or Storm with Kalamax in the 99?

[trail anvil]

that sounds like a question that's entirely preference-based

[gritty nest]

got it, i'll build temur loot

[sudden lava]

Storm with Kalamax in the 99

[glad peak]

one or the other, not both

[golden plover]

Kalamax is better and also more fun imo

[trail anvil]

https://youtu.be/b5UKRWEqQoM?si=8vUbdbADksyq_1vm huh crokeyz does brawl?

[golden plover]

Huh apparently on Arena, the Lurking Horror arts for Duskmorn cards change to that version of a player is at 5 or less life

[copper pecan]

that's really cool

[trail anvil]

ye it's been that way since duskmourn release

[golden plover]

Tbf 95% of the lurking horror cards are unplayable

It's hard to notice when there's like 3 good ones

[trail anvil]

I imagine azorius auras has most of them lol

oh there are less than I thought

[golden plover]

Yeah there's like 3 relevant ones, even there

[clever sun]

Probably my favorite alt styles

They don't detract from the original art much and some are subtle in the best ways

Others compliment the art super well

That one blue card

[[Unable to Scream]]

[lost widget]

https://scryfall.com/card/dsk/78/unable-to-scream

Unable to Scream <:manau:292901508754702338>

Enchantment — Aura
Enchant creature
Enchanted creature loses all abilities and is a Toy artifact creature with base power and toughness 0/2 in addition to its other types.
As long as enchanted creature is face down, it can't be turned face up.

[clever sun]

No what's the other enchantment

[[!Stay Hidden Stay Silent]]

[lost widget]

https://scryfall.com/card/dsk/74/stay-hidden-stay-silent

Stay Hidden, Stay Silent

[clever sun]

In the base art, how the guy is looking to his right

[past socket]

Someone who’s played Unable to Scream must have quite the Toy Story

[clever sun]

But the monster in the alt art

Is on his left already on him

[last glen]

that's the point
he's trying to hide but it didn't work
and he doesn't notice

[clever sun]

And if you just see the base art

You wouldn't know

[past socket]

He doesn’t know

[clever sun]

With this alt art, you get to see the terror soon

It is excellent

And we didn't need some fancy border or entire new art

Not that the ones in DSK are bad

But these subtle ones just end up great

[past socket]

What is this strange creature going to do to this poor guy

What sorts of unspeakable eldritch violence shall occur

[clever sun]

Probably killed

Eaten

[past socket]

Certainly looks like it needs some protein

[clever sun]

[[!Razorkin Needlehead|347]]

[lost widget]

No card found named “Razorkin Needlehead” in “347”

[clever sun]

Oops

[[!Razorkin Needlehead|DSK#347]]

[lost widget]

No card found named “Razorkin Needlehead” in “dsk#347”

[clever sun]

I forgot how Scryfall syntax works

[golden plover]

The only one them I really dislike is Meathook 2's

[[Meathook Massacre II]]

[lost widget]

https://scryfall.com/card/dsk/108/meathook-massacre-ii

Meathook Massacre II <:manax:292901509082120202><:manax:292901509082120202><:manab:292901508872273920><:manab:292901508872273920><:manab:292901508872273920><:manab:292901508872273920>

Legendary Enchantment
When Meathook Massacre II enters, each player sacrifices X creatures.
Whenever a creature you control dies, you may pay 3 life. If you do, return that card under your control with a finality counter on it.
Whenever a creature an opponent controls dies, they may pay 3 life. If they don't, return that card under your control with a finality counter on it.

[golden plover]

This guy looks super out of place

It's not even the same artstyle almost

The rest are really good

[gritty nest]

https://www.moxfield.com/decks/BklRSO30akeLvqie2JwiUw What could i cut to get to 100 cards?

[glad peak]

Maybe the commanders

[gritty nest]

no

[tired imp]

So I heard Magic fucked up

Mostly just joining to get the deets from players

Is it true that crossovers are now just part of the legal game

[sleek ferry]

Yes, but the majority of players do not see this as magic fucking up

It’s the loud minority dooming on social media

[glad peak]

Yep crossovers are in all formats now (Not just commander/legacy and to a smaller extent Modern) but it’s not too bad

Where it gets awkward is if those products are a lot more pricey than normal standard sets and there are staples

[gritty nest]

cant wait to smack spider man with the spatula

[sudden lava]

It's true crossovers are just a part of the legal game
It's false that it's "fucked up", the game is not fucked up

[gritty nest]

Doomers Doom posting essentially

[tired imp]

But

Isn’t it kinda dumb

[sudden lava]

Nah not dumb at all

[gritty nest]

i mean yea the game is becoming fortnite the card game

theres about as many UB sets in 2025 as there are regular in universe sets right?

[tired imp]

This is the bit I heard, something like 50% of new sets are crossovers now

[glad peak]

It’s pretty dumb but eh infinite timelines or whatever

[tired imp]

Just feels very corporate

[glad peak]

That’s true for commander rn and soon for more formats

I mean, they’re a corporation, not an indie band

[tired imp]

Well sure

Still

[gritty nest]

im back down to 2 cards over, any serious answers btw?

[glad peak]

Bria and hypothesis

[last glen]

charitably, it represents an evolution in WotC's brand strategy

of course, that move was always going to upset the most enfranchised players

[copper pecan]

something that's important to remember is that magic players act like the sky is falling literally all the time

in my 6 years of playing this game i've seen people get this outraged literally every time wotc has announced anything

[last glen]

okay mr tummy ache survivor

the move also felt like a betrayal
because figures like Mark Rosewater tried to downplay the future impact of Universes Beyond (the crossover brand)

and people who said the first example of UB was a warning sign of things to come were mostly brushed off as slippery slope fallacy-ing

[copper pecan]

i think describing anything about a card game as "a betrayal" is kind of silly

[last glen]

I think it's fair to feel upset if you were sold a bill of goods about the future of MTG
and then they changed the goods afterward

[copper pecan]

i would be a lot more sympathetic towards these people if they didn't have this kind of reaction about every set all the time

even the sets that people love in hindsight got this kind of reaction

i remember when neo was first announced people acted like it would kill magic and now a lot of people consider that to be one of the best sets ever

it's kind of a boy who cried wolf situation imo

[last glen]

also tbh

I've been most invested in MtG when it involves non MtG characters and branding so

they did it for me

is foundations on Arena yet

[past socket]

Really got hyped to learn Commander alongside Standard when a friend showed me the Fallout stuff

Wise Mothman my beloved

[last glen]

I wish MTG had more accepted casual 60-card constructed play

[past socket]

New Magic player perspective though so take it with a mountain of alt

[last glen]

I mean
that's why they did it

they want to get you hooked with a property you're familiar with

[polar lake]

W day today, i didn't pre-release but i found a counterspell in the bulk box

[last glen]

poggers

oh
three days before foundations goes live I guess

[rigid scarab]

I think the frustration many people don’t say is

It’s not that it infringes on the precious world of Magic the Gathering

For some people it’s definitely that

But people also don’t want billboards shoved in their faces everywhere they go

And now if you wanna be competitive you have to buy these billboards

[last glen]

and you'll have to play against them
and now there's no (official) constructed formats where they're not legal

[trail anvil]

I feel like billboard isn't quite the right term when these are genuinely beloved IPs, but it is still really out of place

at least, until we get the burger king set

[last glen]

Has MTG ever done promotion with McD?

[glad peak]

Not that I remember

It’s a good analogy actually, do people hate yugioh for that hello kitty McDonald’s thing?

[last glen]

nah people were hyping it up when it came to their country

[rigid scarab]

I mean what if you’re not a marvel superfan

[rigid scarab]

Is that really a good analogy?

It’s not like Konami printed meta-relevant Hello Kitty cards

Not many people care if an IP does a merch crossover

[trail anvil]

I feel like there's a big difference between getting a random toy based on the game you love and a meta relevant card based on another ip

mtg did tons of collaborations outside the game, such as smite and hot pockets

[rigid scarab]

Pokemon got to be the highest grossing media franchise ever without their games breaching into other IP

Or their plushes for that matter

[trail anvil]

not everybody's gonna like everything, but I don't think billboard is quite the right analogy

[rigid scarab]

I mean you can get billboards that promote products you like

[last glen]

Pokemon is one of the most iconic franchises of all time

[trail anvil]

idk I'm not about to call gamefreak or Nintendo generous to their playerbase when they're also extremely litigious

[last glen]

MTG is... well, it's maybe the card game people think of first if you say "trading card game"
but the characters aren't nearly as iconic

[rigid scarab]

It’s not about them being generous

It’s about them never feeling the need to crossover

[last glen]

I'd argue Yu-Gi-Oh's characters are more iconic, even if it's the lesser known franchise

[trail anvil]

they're also an outlier

[rigid scarab]

Sure you could say that

People are gonna recognise pikachu more than nicol bolas

[last glen]

Yugioh and Pokemon also had (or still have, in Pokemon's case) other media that drove their popularity

Yugioh had the anime
Pokemon has the games and anime

The drivers of Magic's popularity are much more its primacy and its gameplay
Not its character work and storytelling

[trail anvil]

realistically they could choose at any time to collaborate, they just haven't

[rigid scarab]

But Magic also has the most detailed character work and storytelling out of any TCG

And it definitely is a selling point to people

Not saying that its storytelling is exactly good right now

A bunch of its sets are sort of just gesturing at a concept and going “reference!”

But I have no doubt that Foundations is going to peform

[last glen]

People do seem pretty hype for it

[trail anvil]

idk it's just a core set innit

core set with a longer stint in standard

[last glen]

I hear good things about its draft experience

and people are popping over the old school nostalgia

[trail anvil]

it's refreshing to have such a simple set tbh

[gritty nest]

Why Bria?

[urban crane]

Picked up something need

Japanese foil full art smothering

[rigid scarab]

Wait

Is there a bo3 MTGA bug

Where it just

Doesn't let you sideboard

[urban crane]

Got this

[rigid scarab]

Gutsy buy ngl

[urban crane]

Wdym?

Wel also traded for it

[rigid scarab]

Its on a lot of banlist watches

[trail anvil]

smothering tithe?

[urban crane]

In commander?

Yeah

It’s smothering

[trail anvil]

why would that be banned I'm confused

I think it's strong in casual but not like overly crazy

[rigid scarab]

People decided that WOTC controlling the format may lead to more bans

[glad peak]

She can make something unblockable but she only gives marginal buffs and is just not worth the cost

[last glen]

Yes, actually
If I'm thinking about the same thing
It's happened to me a couple times, and I hear other people complain about it too

[rigid scarab]

This is

The ENTIRE purpose of bo3

[last glen]

Sometimes
the ice cream machine at McD breaks

[sleek ferry]

They literally said the opposite though lol

[rigid scarab]

Doesn't stop people from getting scared

[atomic harness]

Big doubt on it being banned it'll just be put on a higher bracket/tier if they go through w that

[ornate cedar]

Excellent art

It’s so cool that Goosebumps-cover artist Tim Jacobus did some of the alt arts

(Not this one specifically, but it reminded me of some of his art)

This is one of his that I managed to pull from the TV looking bundle

Are y’all ready for Foundations? I still want some time in Duskmourn tbh

[sleek ferry]

Yeah, I’m ready for a new standard set

[rigid scarab]

Ready for 6 more?

[sleek ferry]

Yes

If you’ve noticed a consistent thing about me, I hate some of the long breaks in between standard sets

When we got Lotr and we had like a 4-5 month wait between standard sets

In sheoldred format

That shit was hell

[rigid scarab]

Hm

To me 4-5 months feels very adequate

Esp when playing paper something that drove me out of PTCG is the constant need to update my decks with every set

Same thing with Hearthstone honestly

And those games release standard sets less frequently than what MTG is about to do

You know how an MTG content creator gets like 6 videos of free content whenever a new set drops

"Best reprints!"
"Best new cards (For commander)!"
"Best new commanders!"
"Precon review!"
"Best new cards (For standard)!"
"Draft guide!"

Maybe not draft guide

Maybe it can be just a general set discussion

Or their reveal card

The Command Zone's podcast schedule is absolutely cooked lmao

[last glen]

gonna take another look at my Dino Pioneer deck

[ornate cedar]

I’m excited for some of the foundations cards, but I’m also gonna miss the horror aesthetic. Hopefully there is a return to Duskmourn in the next however many years

If WOTC deems Duskmourn worthy anyway

[craggy moss]

i bought a precon a while ago which i have used w friends, and im not rlly sure if i wanna try and actually upgrade/alter it to try and have more fun w it, or try out making a new deck around a diff strat, any advice?

deck is virtue and valour, so i would be adding stuff like ramp and more enchantments that act as interaction and buffs

[rigid scarab]

It depends on what you want out of it

Both are equally valid options

[craggy moss]

just want smth fun

like in an ideal world id want a deck that is quite combo style but ik thats less budget friendly typically ;-;

[rigid scarab]

You can maake cheap combo decks

Literally every single card in magic is legal

[craggy moss]

true

[rigid scarab]

Casual EDH is a deckbuilder's paradise

[barren cairn]

Got shafted by frilled greatworm

Currently 1-1 in prerelease

Deck is actually kinda solid but like the timing on the worm

[past socket]

The Commander gods have decided I am the Blue Black Blank guy

[barren cairn]

One of my friends is 3-0

I'm 1-2

[trail anvil]

ah yes the feds

or the thief, ironically

[past socket]

Hippity hoppity your cards are now my property.

Though my rabbit holes have been The Wise Mothman and now Be’lakor the Dark Master

[trail anvil]

ah nevermind you found the based commanders

mothman aka "the one mill payoff everyone doesn't hate"

[past socket]

And Be’lakor the Demon Tribal Player Decider

Because I saw someone playing Be’lakor online and suddenly the algorithm decided “You’re in the Demon rabbit hole now, motherfucker”

[barren cairn]

Friends went 3-1

I went 1-3

I pulled a cool Elenda tho

Traded for krenko, Genesis wave, and akromas memorial

Last round I got killed by Koma

[sleek ferry]

Man I fucking love it when people don’t respect the [[wrenn and reambreaker]] ultimate

[lost widget]

https://scryfall.com/card/mom/217/wrenn-and-realmbreaker

Wrenn and Realmbreaker <:mana1:292901508373282827><:manag:292901508654301185><:manag:292901508654301185>

Legendary Planeswalker — Wrenn
Lands you control have ": Add one mana of any color."
+1: Up to one target land you control becomes a 3/3 Elemental creature with vigilance, hexproof, and haste until your next turn. It's still a land.
−2: Mill three cards. You may put a permanent card from among the milled cards into your hand.
−7: You get an emblem with "You may play lands and cast permanent spells from your graveyard."
Loyalty: 4

[sleek ferry]

Guy thought perma keeping me at 3 lands was a winning formula

[past socket]

[[Syr Konrad]]

[lost widget]

Multiple cards match “Syr Konrad”, can you be more specific?

[past socket]

[[Syr Konrad, the Grim]]

[lost widget]

https://scryfall.com/card/dsc/158/syr-konrad-the-grim

Syr Konrad, the Grim <:mana3:292901508771610624><:manab:292901508872273920><:manab:292901508872273920>

Legendary Creature — Human Knight
Whenever another creature dies, or a creature card is put into a graveyard from anywhere other than the battlefield, or a creature card leaves your graveyard, Syr Konrad, the Grim deals 1 damage to each opponent.
: Each player mills a card. (They each put the top card of their library into their graveyard.)
5/4

[past socket]

This is a cool looking dude

[copper pecan]

love konrad

very fun in commander

[past socket]

Why do I wanna attempt to play this in Wise Mothman?

[copper pecan]

he's really good in any deck that mills things

[past socket]

And I do play some ways to get stuff from the grave in play if I mill Syr Konrad

Thank you Black for all the re animation

[sleek ferry]

Alright my love for standard is back

Helga is my girl

[copper pecan]

people always talk about having a good manabase but what about having a good manacringe

also is that an everywhere token i see?

in this house we love and appreciate [[overlord of the hauntwoods]]

[lost widget]

https://scryfall.com/card/dsk/194/overlord-of-the-hauntwoods

Overlord of the Hauntwoods <:mana3:292901508771610624><:manag:292901508654301185><:manag:292901508654301185>

Enchantment Creature — Avatar Horror
Impending 4— (If you cast this spell for its impending cost, it enters with four time counters and isn't a creature until the last is removed. At the beginning of your end step, remove a time counter from it.)
Whenever Overlord of the Hauntwoods enters or attacks, create a tapped colorless land token named Everywhere that is every basic land type.
6/5

[polar lake]

i love gambling

[gritty nest]

you play FaB?

[lusty trench]

Damn I got hosed at prerelease

Bulk rares and a bulk mythic, my playables were in colours that didn’t have enough in them to play

[polar lake]

yuh

[lusty trench]

Had to go against this in limited

Jesus Christ

[haughty otter]

Owo

[last glen]

How real is/will Angels be in Pioneer?

[sleek ferry]

Where were you when angels was viable in standard

[last glen]

unrelated
kaheera is the only dinosaur lord

this is disheartening

[rigid scarab]

Dinos are naturally big

Why do you need lords

[golden plover]

Angels were already real

[last glen]

I want them to be bigger

[sleek ferry]

https://tenor.com/view/long-man-sakeru-gummy-shocked-gif-17662687

[last glen]

look dawg all I have is big dudes, removing artifacts, and banishing GYs

I think I gotta sideboard more flying hate

[barren cairn]

Lol same

[lusty trench]

Bro is William afton cause he always comes back

[barren cairn]

I didn't even need it to come back

It just killed me when it came out lol

[last glen]

Oh shit
Adaptive Automaton

Lord for all creatures
Including Dinosaurs
We are saved

Unfortunately 2 toughness
Dies to Maurading

[craggy moss]

so made a very very budget malcolm and breeches deck, heavy inspo from edhrec and yt lists, would someone be able to feedback?

its not meant to be crazy, just a second deck i can use w friends 🙂

https://www.moxfield.com/decks/sPI13weACUG6yvP3VxQlDw

[glad peak]

there's 1 fairly budget card that you missed

[[glint-horn buccanneer]]

[lost widget]

https://scryfall.com/card/m20/141/glint-horn-buccaneer

Glint-Horn Buccaneer <:mana1:292901508373282827><:manar:292901508796645397><:manar:292901508796645397>

Creature — Minotaur Pirate
Haste
Whenever you discard a card, Glint-Horn Buccaneer deals 1 damage to each opponent.
, Discard a card: Draw a card. Activate only if Glint-Horn Buccaneer is attacking.
2/4

[craggy moss]

Oo thx

Cos of how many discard and draws thats good

[glad peak]

nope, just need to attack with 2 mana up and you can go effectively infinite with malcolm out

[last glen]

looking for payoffs for a casual pioneer bat tribal deck

[golden plover]

Played [[Jetmir, Nexus of Revels]] with friends tonight and immediately remembered why I don't play that deck

[lost widget]

https://scryfall.com/card/snc/193/jetmir-nexus-of-revels

Jetmir, Nexus of Revels <:mana1:292901508373282827><:manar:292901508796645397><:manag:292901508654301185><:manaw:1007102126813610074>

Legendary Creature — Cat Demon
Creatures you control get +1/+0 and have vigilance as long as you control three or more creatures.
Creatures you control also get +1/+0 and have trample as long as you control six or more creatures.
Creatures you control also get +1/+0 and have double strike as long as you control nine or more creatures.
5/4

[trail anvil]

jetmir very much feels like he should be in the 99 as a finisher more than a regular commander

[golden plover]

My issue is you're playing 55 cards that make different tokens

[trail anvil]

dude is a lightning rod and a big sign saying "better kill me before I turn my board into an embercleave"

[golden plover]

So tracking how many dragons, elephants, eldrazi, whatever is a hassle

[trail anvil]

oh well that's just go-wide struggles

[golden plover]

It's just annoying to track all my tokens

[trail anvil]

tbh in general I think the simpler the commander deck the better

you take quicker turns and you miss less triggers, etc

[golden plover]

Yeah for sure. I do like Jetmir, but there's too much going on

If I wanna play complicated, I play Elsha and win t4

[atomic harness]

Word

[lusty trench]

Honestly I disagree just because you can treat him like a hoof in the command zone

There's only so much removal casual players run

[glad peak]

Just play him with hatebears

[past socket]

Cocaine Bears?

[zinc shard]

Friendly reminder, Foundations releases tomorrow. Finish your missions

[rigid scarab]

Can we get an unfriendly reminder next time

[subtle sierra]

I can punch anyone as a reminder if you want it

Very unfriendly

[zinc shard]

DO YOUR GODDAMN MISSIONS

[rigid scarab]

Thank you

[sleek ferry]

You suck at magic and will never be good at it, also do your stupid missions

[rigid scarab]

Thank you

[zinc shard]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s3QVRWPm57E&embeds_referring_euri=https%3A%2F%2Fmagic.wizards.com%2F&embeds_referring_origin=https%3A%2F%2Fmagic.wizards.com&source_ve_path=MjM4NTE

Video showing the new damage rule

https://magic.wizards.com/en/news/mtg-arena/mtg-arena-announcements-november-11-2024

Bunch of Alchemy rebalances

Also Monstrous Rage banned in Alchemy, Temporial Manipulations banned in Historic

[copper pecan]

as the world's number 1 grenzo fan, i can't say i'm surprised they nerfed him. he was probably too strong before tbh

[past socket]

What’s the schtick of Alchemy as a format?

[gritty nest]

Arena gimmicks that can’t be done in paper probably

[rigid scarab]

Basically hearthstone

[zinc shard]

^ Standard but with rebalances and unique to digital mechanics

oh forgot to mention, tomorrow everyone is getting 10 free decks, with over 50 Rare/Mythics

[past socket]

Goddamn

[rigid scarab]

Are they random

Please give me shocks

[copper pecan]

last two years of sets + cards designed specifically for digital play + they can rebalance cards for alchemy

[zinc shard]

im assuming they're preconstructed decks

[past socket]

Granted, time to get tazed

[rigid scarab]

Shocks as in

The lands

[zinc shard]

oh no, they're cards from Foundations

[rigid scarab]

Does foundations have a land cycle

That's like

OK

[copper pecan]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/636013795507961892/1305548331195564082/image.png?ex=67336e22&is=67321ca2&hm=82408fb44ac4cb2c307a809985bde716dc26c3ce36f62796221c2b2a7d5ed51a&=&format=webp&quality=lossless&width=687&height=318
love when i'm playing mtg and my opponent's graveyard looks like this

very cool

they were maindecking [[spellgyre]] even

[lost widget]

https://scryfall.com/card/blb/72/spellgyre

Spellgyre <:mana2:292901509060886528><:manau:292901508754702338><:manau:292901508754702338>

Instant
Choose one —
• Counter target spell.
• Surveil 2, then draw two cards. (To surveil 2, look at the top two cards of your library, then put any number of them into your graveyard and the rest on top of your library in any order.)

[past socket]

When the spell is counter

[zinc shard]

Just the Temples

[sleek ferry]

that's decently common for this deck

they play like 12-15 counterspells

[fallow citrus]

man that's not even near [[archmage's charm]]

[lost widget]

https://scryfall.com/card/mh1/40/archmages-charm

Archmage's Charm <:manau:292901508754702338><:manau:292901508754702338><:manau:292901508754702338>

Instant
Choose one —
• Counter target spell.
• Target player draws two cards.
• Gain control of target nonland permanent with mana value 1 or less.

[fallow citrus]

or [[cryptic command]]

[lost widget]

https://scryfall.com/card/ima/48/cryptic-command

Cryptic Command <:mana1:292901508373282827><:manau:292901508754702338><:manau:292901508754702338><:manau:292901508754702338>

Instant
Choose two —
• Counter target spell.
• Return target permanent to its owner's hand.
• Tap all creatures your opponents control.
• Draw a card.

[fallow citrus]

which is what I was thinking of originally tbf

[sleek ferry]

idk, surveil 2 is a little more than a draw imo

maybe not in this deck though

[fallow citrus]

maybe

[sleek ferry]

though i assume this deck maybe still plays oculus

[trail anvil]

jesus christ that grenzo change is good but nashi is going to terrorize the fuck out of brawl

he already was a super strong commander, now he gets to hold up counter magic at all times for no reason

[past socket]

One fear

[past socket]

Honestly should try Sultai in Arena at some point as much as I imagine it’d be different from L A M P.dek with Wise Mothman.

[trail anvil]

sultai in 1v1 is usually super value oriented

hence why nashi is the best sultai commander by far I'd say

[craggy moss]

After a couple tweaks malcolm and breeches deck is getting either a combo win by turn 6 or a rlly strong pirate board in testing, and sits at around £30-35 on cardmarket, cant wait 🙏🏻

[past socket]

Yeah was just interested in learning it be it Commander or for Standard due to Wise Mothman being Sultai colours

But being a very different strat

[gritty nest]

When you find a scalper in another server

[past socket]

Scalpers…

[sudden lava]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MZEWmkzAgFU

[sudden lava]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/448940916833648640/1305703030385279006/image.png?ex=6733fe35&is=6732acb5&hm=c5ed774309b59adb333f31745408957ffa118fb4ee65d3da13604d4207a5216d&=&format=webp&quality=lossless&width=751&height=578

Bobblehead Tony Stark

[last glen]

building Runo Stromkirk in Pioneer

trying to figure out how to pull all the pieces togethere

[twilit canyon]

by not building runo

[last glen]

truuuuuu

[trail anvil]

[[runo stormkirk]]

[lost widget]

No card found for “runo stormkirk”

[trail anvil]

[[runo stromkirk]]

[lost widget]

https://scryfall.com/card/vow/246/runo-stromkirk-krothuss-lord-of-the-deep

Runo Stromkirk <:mana1:292901508373282827><:manau:292901508754702338><:manab:292901508872273920>

Legendary Creature — Vampire Cleric
Flying
When Runo Stromkirk enters, put up to one target creature card from your graveyard on top of your library.
At the beginning of your upkeep, look at the top card of your library. You may reveal that card. If a creature card with mana value 6 or greater is revealed this way, transform Runo Stromkirk.
1/4

Krothuss, Lord of the Deep
Legendary Creature — Kraken Horror
Flying
Whenever Krothuss, Lord of the Deep attacks, create a tapped and attacking token that's a copy of another target attacking creature. If that creature is a Kraken, Leviathan, Octopus, or Serpent, create two of those tokens instead.
3/5

[trail anvil]

that does sound difficult lol

[last glen]

it's just too slow

[trail anvil]

I can't imagine resetting your draw to a nonland card when said nonland card needs to be a creature with mv 6+ is good either

[polar lake]

Bad Format Idea: Truelander
100 card singleton
20 life
the only cards that are legal are cards that have been printed only once

scryfall syntax: paperprints=1 f:vintage

[atomic harness]

I cant believe Homelander has his own set

[last glen]

It's tragic
Tolarion Terror is okay as far as maybe hitting curve
But you need exodia hands and mills or the whole thing grinds to a halt

[glad peak]

That doesn’t seem too bad

You remove a lot of busted cards

[trail anvil]

is it just me or did the set download really damn fast?

[polar lake]

honestly this seemed like a good idea i made 2 decks

expensive tho cause this format is basically RL the format

but we can just proxy

[last glen]

I think one issue with playing the format long term would be your decks would have to change whenever a card was reprinted

[polar lake]

yeah but tbh i made this format as a joke casual format

[modern minnow]

https://edhrec.com/articles/single-combat-hapax-magic-a-true-singleton-format/ article on smth similar

[polar lake]

its basically the same except ours is just true highlander

[rigid scarab]

UB ferociously knocking on the door:

[polar lake]

https://scryfall.com/search?q=is%3Aub+paperprints%3D1+format%3Avintage&unique=cards&as=grid&order=name

surprising only 66 legal UB cards

[glad peak]

Several of the UB don’t work since they have the list printings

[polar lake]

turns out when you give almost every fucking card in a set 40 fucking variants it counts as a reprint

[zinc shard]

hm... so for the new player deck it wont give you copies of rare cards already in your collection

hoping its a bug because otherwise that sucks

[trail anvil]

afaik this is normal

unfort

[sudden lava]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1066605514466799616/1306022480850452591/image.png?ex=673527b8&is=6733d638&hm=4f4d24da65ed6d249e0cea1c48fb9434219f83abf29fd0f5865006d7e6763a00&=&format=webp&quality=lossless&width=418&height=578

Just bought a Light-Paws for my Pearl-Ear deck

[sleek ferry]

https://tenor.com/view/spider-man-we-one-gif-18212100

That’s light paws to Pearl Earl

[sudden lava]

Kamigawa Kitsune Advisors that give value for playing auras ❤️

[clever sun]

I'm glad nothing happens in this chat

[sudden lava]

we finally made it out of spoiler season for a good while, magic is at peace.

[clever sun]

This was not an invitation to ping me

I'd rather spoiler season than random life updates.

[twilit canyon]

lol

speaking of actual magic

j25 is great

[clever sun]

Pleasantly surprised at all of Foundations

No real power creep

This is what I envisioned a Core set to look like for modern times

[golden plover]

Yeah foundations is great

Only did the one limited so far for it

But it's a very well designed set

[zinc shard]

Livin the dream

[trail anvil]

it's harey apparent

[sleek ferry]

Another salty person roping me

STOP PLAYING DISCARD DECKS BOZO

[glad peak]

How well does f jumpstart play with other jumpstart?

[gritty nest]

Idk

Buy a box of each and tell us

[glad peak]

no u

[last glen]

immensely excited to play Enter deck name...

this seems like not a particularly useful number of copies of Dazzling Angel

[subtle sierra]

They used to give them

Source: I've made a shit ton of accounts

Iirc it was a way to get rares

[trail anvil]

as in you got them on fresh accounts or accounts with the rares and the mythics already there?

cause I'm talking about accounts that already have copies of the cards

[sleek ferry]

I mean afaik you can also keep pulling Rares/mythics that you already have 4s of no?

Mtga has really bad monetization

[twilit canyon]

only if ur turbo whaling

and are rare completing sets

or went absurdly hard on drafting and the pack rewards ran out of non-repeat rares

[subtle sierra]

I could get 2-3 copies of a rare if i get lucky

Iirc

Idr what it was i wqs hunting last time

Probably wedding

[copper pecan]

hey does anyone know what happens when you use mutate on a face down card

[sleek ferry]

uhhhh

link a mutate card rq

[copper pecan]

[[gemrazer]]

[lost widget]

https://scryfall.com/card/iko/155/gemrazer

Gemrazer <:mana3:292901508771610624><:manag:292901508654301185>

Creature — Beast
Mutate (If you cast this spell for its mutate cost, put it over or under target non-Human creature you own. They mutate into the creature on top plus all abilities from under it.)
Reach, trample
Whenever this creature mutates, destroy target artifact or enchantment an opponent controls.
4/4

[sleek ferry]

it should just mutate on top of the face down card no? It should be the similar to mutating on top of a token

[copper pecan]

yeah but can you still flip the face down card up later after it becomes a part of the pile

or is it stuck face down

[sleek ferry]

I think it's just stuck face down

[copper pecan]

okay so looking it up, apparently if you mutate on top of a face down card, the top card is also considered to be face down

[sleek ferry]

let me ping our judge @gilded glade

[copper pecan]

if any part of a merged permanent is face down, the whole thing is considered face down

[sleek ferry]

yeah that's what I assumed

[gilded glade]

I'm gay

[sleek ferry]

yes gaymer, please bestow your gay knowledge unto this gay question

[copper pecan]

oh

okay that makes sense i guess

[golden plover]

@lusty trench the idea is here, but Imma need to play with ratios

I'm obviously supposed to be on 4 Genesis Wave as I get them

[sleek ferry]

go heavier on black

[golden plover]

I'm thinking it's actually the opposite. Mono-Green and siding in our black answers

[rigid scarab]

Is it a bad time to use wildcards

Should I just wait for decklists to come out

[sleek ferry]

for you I would just wait

i don't see much changing in the meta though tbh

[rigid scarab]

What if I make the greatest uber meta break of all time

Ok Im looking at 2 golgari food lists rn

One of them runs Camelia

And the other runs Vinereap Mentor

[twilit canyon]

neither card is playable

[rigid scarab]

Really

[twilit canyon]

vinereap is fringe at best

camelia is bad

[rigid scarab]

In golgari food pioneer

[twilit canyon]

thats right

to start, golgari is the weaker color for food

most of the food stuff u wanna do in that format is in rakdos

with a tiny bit of green for ygra

second theres just very very little room for other cards in the lists

[rigid scarab]

I saw that Golgari Food won a 546 player european regional

[golden plover]

Food should be Jund

But you're mostly just playing food stuff to combo off Ygra

Hmm [[Bishop of Wings]]

[lost widget]

https://scryfall.com/card/m20/8/bishop-of-wings

Bishop of Wings <:manaw:1007102126813610074><:manaw:1007102126813610074>

Creature — Human Cleric
Whenever an Angel you control enters, you gain 4 life.
Whenever an Angel you control dies, create a 1/1 white Spirit creature token with flying.
"Within every angel is a spirit of light that will fight as long as there is darkness."
1/4

[golden plover]

Damn, they really gave angels nothing

[last glen]

They got some new angels and life gain support
But I don't think any of them are must-includes for Pioneer

Alternatives at best

[golden plover]

I was looking for standard

[twilit canyon]

they gave nobody nothing

theres just a bunch of supplemental pieces to exist for 5 years to create off-meta decks

this is good bc i can see a world where they have a set with an angel theme in the 5 years of foundation

[golden plover]

I mean, elves seem close

I can see an elves list popping up once people figure out ratios

There's enough good elves with the Dominara lord and Tyvar

[last glen]

The speed world will have angel support
trust

[golden plover]

Just give us [[Righteous Valkyrie]] and Angles are viable

[lost widget]

https://scryfall.com/card/khm/24/righteous-valkyrie

Righteous Valkyrie <:mana2:292901509060886528><:manaw:1007102126813610074>

Creature — Angel Cleric
Flying
Whenever another Angel or Cleric you control enters, you gain life equal to that creature's toughness.
As long as you have at least 7 life more than your starting life total, creatures you control get +2/+2.
2/4

[twilit canyon]

they really arent

righteous valk is way too strong an enabler for angels given that its a viable pioneer deck

its the sort of card you dont print for 5+ years into one format that is supposed to rotate

cus its not just an angel or cleric card

its a life gain as a whole card

and it would completely define life gain for that amount of time

[pulsar talon]

Quick question, how decent is meld in commander?

Wanted to play with the mechanic

[rigid scarab]

Everything is decent in casual edh

[copper pecan]

it really depends on which meld card

[rigid scarab]

If its a BRO meld card

Just make that bad boy your commander

And your off to the races

[copper pecan]

if you don't have one of the meld cards as your commander then odds are you won't draw both

[pulsar talon]

Bro?

[rigid scarab]

Brother's War

[pulsar talon]

Ah

[rigid scarab]

Which meld card are you thinking of?

[pulsar talon]

Nothing in specific

I just wanted to play anything that uses the mechanic

[copper pecan]

urza is probably the best one

[urban crane]

Isn’t the angel one pretty good?

[copper pecan]

the angel one is fine if you're playing angel typal i guess

[golden plover]

Yeah outside of Urza and Mishra ig, the meld cards in commander SUCK

Urza's is at least an artifact so you can tutor for it in his colors

And Mishra is in black so he just has tutors

[pulsar talon]

I see

[copper pecan]

the front face of urza is also just a pretty good card in general imo

[golden plover]

Yeah, I'd say Urza is the most playable

But I don't expect you to meld often

A meld commander would really need partner with

[pulsar talon]

What is partner again? You can play 1 alongside a commander with the same colors?

[golden plover]

1 alongside any other partner commander

Partner With is more specific and they have to partner with each other

And there's the versions for Dr Who and Stranger Things where they partner with pools from their property but those don't matter tbh

[pulsar talon]

I see

Is there a card with both partner and meld tho?

[copper pecan]

no

[pulsar talon]

I see

[last glen]

brain check
a land turning into a creature triggers [[Marauding Raptor]] right?

[lost widget]

https://scryfall.com/card/lcc/228/marauding-raptor

Marauding Raptor <:mana1:292901508373282827><:manar:292901508796645397>

Creature — Dinosaur
Creature spells you cast cost less to cast.
Whenever another creature you control enters, Marauding Raptor deals 2 damage to it. If a Dinosaur is dealt damage this way, Marauding Raptor gets +2/+0 until end of turn.
"Stand still and try not to look like prey!" —Skerk Hobnett, wilderness guide
2/3

[last glen]

I'm pretty sure it does but I haven't seen the interaction in so long I've forgotten

[golden plover]

It doesn't, because the land was already on the field

[sleek ferry]

Holy, imagine if man lands counted as entering lol

[copper pecan]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/865669290232774699/1306289688377692220/new-favorite-card-v0-n0btjos1w60e1.png?ex=67362093&is=6734cf13&hm=2ef6de39da9123c8b88d42b03ea6be9cb9a481f4a0e33f585547a0ec9fe5a97b&=&format=webp&quality=lossless&width=510&height=662

[subtle sierra]

no

get out of my head

this is the new among us

[past socket]

Nice Hawk, bro!

[zinc shard]

https://youtu.be/jjgLl2gIxRg?si=HYmESnwnayBErMjq

[rigid scarab]

||Jimmy's turn 4 may be the worst turn I've ever seen in any EDH gameplay video||

[golden plover]

Bad idea time

[sudden lava]

||Jimmy: "And I will discard this land"||

[rigid scarab]

||I think the game ended in kind of an anticlimactic way, but the absolute war of card draw was really fun to watch||

[rigid scarab]

We’re looking at getting one of our friends into magic

And Im fighting for my life out here to convince someone to not introduce her with a commander precon

[trail anvil]

hey that's what wizards intended

[glad peak]

Unfortunate

[sleek ferry]

Tell them Mtga color challenge is free and is the best introduction to the game

[last glen]

Today on bad ideas
what if we tried to make Pioneer Rakdos with Jegantha
(all the best finishers have multiple color pips)

[golden plover]

She's seen play in pioneer prior

[last glen]

Hmm
I guess there's Rakdos Aggro instead of midrange

[glad peak]

Have them learn with lantern control

[last glen]

What are the best anti-mono green Nykthos hate cards that are generic or Gruul? Adjusting my sideboard.

Bonus if it's a dinosaur

[fallow citrus]

https://x.com/BoshNRoll/status/1856780845429719077?t=4PII7wNXbTRIImvN56sXVQ&s=19

Brian "BoshNRoll" Coval (@BoshNRoll) on X

Time for a #MTGFoundations skill puzzle!
What do you do? Why?
#MTGAmbassador

Twitter · Nov 13, 2024, 7:27 PM

[zinc shard]

Yes, opponent is most likely gonna take the Cancel anyways. Countrring it hides information

[golden plover]

Yeah, pretty much

[glad peak]

I don’t see why not

[twilit canyon]

what sort of skill puzzle is this

theres no downside

[glad peak]

It’s a beginner puzzle lol

[twilit canyon]

you counter, untap, draw, cast boltbend, draw 3

boltwave

[twilit canyon]

maybe

ig it'd be weird if new players just