Magic the Gathering

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https://scryfall.com/card/dsk/26/reluctant-role-model

Reluctant Role Model <:mana1:292901508373282827><:manaw:1007102126813610074>

Creature — Human Survivor
Survival — At the beginning of your second main phase, if Reluctant Role Model is tapped, put a flying, lifelink, or +1/+1 counter on it.
Whenever Reluctant Role Model or another creature you control dies, if it had counters on it, put those counters on up to one target creature.
2/2

[twilit canyon]

mhm

[golden plover]

Imma play one in Roghark Yoshimaru Cedh

[twilit canyon]

the 1 drop in white with survival is also silly

[golden plover]

But imma proxy up better art lmao

[twilit canyon]

[[veteran survivor[[

[[veteran survivor]]

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https://scryfall.com/card/dsk/40/veteran-survivor

Veteran Survivor <:manaw:1007102126813610074>

Creature — Human Survivor
Survival — At the beginning of your second main phase, if Veteran Survivor is tapped, exile up to one target card from a graveyard.
As long as there are three or more cards exiled with Veteran Survivor, it gets +3/+3 and has hexproof. (It can't be the target of spells or abilities your opponents control.)
2/1

[twilit canyon]

grave hate after attacking

thats just good?

like damn

[[abhorrent oculus]] will break many hearts trying to unearth it

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https://scryfall.com/card/dsk/42/abhorrent-oculus

Abhorrent Oculus <:mana2:292901509060886528><:manau:292901508754702338>

Creature — Eye
As an additional cost to cast this spell, exile six cards from your graveyard.
Flying
At the beginning of each opponent's upkeep, manifest dread. (Look at the top two cards of your library. Put one onto the battlefield face down as a 2/2 creature and the other into your graveyard. Turn it face up any time for its mana cost if it's a creature card.)
5/5

[twilit canyon]

and finding out that it is kinda just whatever still

the blue enchantress creature with flash

is going to be good somewhere?

[golden plover]

Pioneer convoke likely plays [[Arabella]] tbh

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https://scryfall.com/card/dsk/208/arabella-abandoned-doll

Arabella, Abandoned Doll <:manar:292901508796645397><:manaw:1007102126813610074>

Legendary Artifact Creature — Toy
Whenever Arabella, Abandoned Doll attacks, it deals X damage to each opponent and you gain X life, where X is the number of creatures you control with power 2 or less.
Every night, Cori threw the unsettling doll away. Every morning, it was back on the shelf, its eyes following her every move.
1/3

[twilit canyon]

[[floodpits drowner]] is somewhat relevant for merfolk all over

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https://scryfall.com/card/dsk/59/floodpits-drowner

Floodpits Drowner <:mana1:292901508373282827><:manau:292901508754702338>

Creature — Merfolk
Flash
Vigilance
When Floodpits Drowner enters, tap target creature an opponent controls and put a stun counter on it.
, : Shuffle Floodpits Drowner and target creature with a stun counter on it into their owners' libraries.
2/1

[golden plover]

I'm not sure how many copies

[twilit canyon]

if manifest dread is a deck anywhere

[golden plover]

But they're probably okay with her not doing anything on etb considering how much of a tempo swing she'll be for them when she connects

[twilit canyon]

[[paranormal analyst]]

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https://scryfall.com/card/dsk/69/paranormal-analyst

Paranormal Analyst <:mana1:292901508373282827><:manau:292901508754702338>

Creature — Human Detective
Whenever you manifest dread, put a card you put into your graveyard this way into your hand.
"If I've done this right, it should immobilize all spirits in the area. If I've done this wrong... you know what, let's just hope I did it right."
1/3

[golden plover]

I'd be willing to try 2-3 Arabella ngl

[twilit canyon]

this card is going to be absurd in it

[golden plover]

She's also an artifact so you can pop her for 3 goblins

[twilit canyon]

for sure

arabella has some places

come back wrong

is a good card

but unsure if it has a good home

[golden plover]

Thank God [[Gleeful Demolition]] isn't instant speed tbh

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https://scryfall.com/card/one/134/gleeful-demolition

Gleeful Demolition <:manar:292901508796645397>

Sorcery
Destroy target artifact. If you controlled that artifact, create three 1/1 red Phyrexian Goblin creature tokens.
Urabrask encourages creativity in all its forms, even the destructive ones. Especially the destructive ones.

[twilit canyon]

fear of lost teeth is a solid card

but nothing groundbreaking

[golden plover]

Imagine if they could pop her in response to removal

[twilit canyon]

valgavoth may be the 2nd best reanimator target ever?

its unsure

but its absolutely an untap win the game card

oh sack decks are getting [[betrayer's bargain]]

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https://scryfall.com/card/dsk/126/betrayers-bargain

Betrayer's Bargain <:mana1:292901508373282827><:manar:292901508796645397>

Instant
As an additional cost to cast this spell, sacrifice a creature or enchantment or pay .
Betrayer's Bargain deals 5 damage to target creature. If that creature would die this turn, exile it instead.
"This is my way out. You'll have to find your own." —Winter, to Niko

[twilit canyon]

which is neat

chainsaw is good

[golden plover]

I don't think he's better than archon, Griselbrand, or Atraxa

[twilit canyon]

nothing revolutionary

[golden plover]

But I think he's worth trying

[twilit canyon]

hes better than gris

[golden plover]

Ngl, I'm also tempted to run 1 in Jund

[twilit canyon]

archon isnt the same

it doesnt fit the same theme

[golden plover]

We don't hard cast him

But if we turn 3 foods into him, it's funny

[twilit canyon]

thats too ambitious

[golden plover]

Yeah I don't think it's a great idea

[twilit canyon]

[[clockwork percussionist]]

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https://scryfall.com/card/dsk/130/clockwork-percussionist

Clockwork Percussionist <:manar:292901508796645397>

Artifact Creature — Monkey Toy
Haste
When Clockwork Percussionist dies, exile the top card of your library. You may play it until the end of your next turn.
Dance to its beat, or it will dance on your grave.
1/1

[twilit canyon]

this card

the thing is, it digs less

but

if you ever have delirium cards

its free

fear of missing out is good

norin will see play somewhere

pyroclasm may or may not kill off certain decks in pioneer (rip convoke probably)

razorkin needlehead is solid

unsure if it has a home

[golden plover]

Yeah pyroclasm fucks over convoke

I don't see a home for needle head rn

[twilit canyon]

rollercrusher ride is... a thing

i can see it being good

[golden plover]

It's an EDH card imo

[twilit canyon]

but i cant see it being insane

[golden plover]

Not a bad one

[twilit canyon]

[[untimely malfunction]] btw

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https://scryfall.com/card/dsk/161/untimely-malfunction

Untimely Malfunction <:mana1:292901508373282827><:manar:292901508796645397>

Instant
Choose one —
• Destroy target artifact.
• Change the target of target spell or ability with a single target.
• One or two target creatures can't block this turn.
"No! This worked perfectly in the lab!"

[golden plover]

But it's an EDH card

[twilit canyon]

card is gas

[golden plover]

Percussionist is genuinely a stupid high pick in draft imo

It's not like P1P1 or anything

But I think if you're in red you always take it

And it makes a strong argument for red if you're on the fence

[twilit canyon]

hauntwoods shrieker will have one potential avenue and thats if manifest dread takes off as a deck

kona memes

maybe they will be real

[[patchwork beastie]]

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https://scryfall.com/card/dsk/195/patchwork-beastie

Patchwork Beastie <:manag:292901508654301185>

Artifact Creature — Beast
Delirium — Patchwork Beastie can't attack or block unless there are four or more card types among cards in your graveyard.
At the beginning of your upkeep, you may mill a card. (You may put the top card of your library into your graveyard.)
It doesn't know it isn't real.
3/3

[twilit canyon]

if there is a delirium aggro deck

it'll include this

[[valgavoth's onslaught]]

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https://scryfall.com/card/dsk/204/valgavoths-onslaught

Valgavoth's Onslaught <:manax:292901509082120202><:manax:292901509082120202><:manag:292901508654301185>

Sorcery
Manifest dread X times, then put X +1/+1 counters on each of those creatures. (To manifest dread, look at the top two cards of your library, then put one onto the battlefield face down as a 2/2 creature and the other into your graveyard. Turn it face up any time for its mana cost if it's a creature card.)
Tyvar and the Wanderer were done running.

[twilit canyon]

again

if manifest dread good

this good

gremlin tamer has an infinite in edh

[golden plover]

I think there's a deck in post-foundations standard with Kona and Omniscience

[twilit canyon]

niko is pretty good

[golden plover]

You can technically draft that btw

[twilit canyon]

kaito is good

[rigid scarab]

Wait Doom Foretold vs Cauldron Familiar Scavenger's is so funny

[twilit canyon]

indeed

sprinter should be good if theres an aggro deck in a format

[rigid scarab]

Actual 90:10 matchup

[golden plover]

If you see arcade (very rare since it's a commander card) you can sometimes draft it which is funny

[twilit canyon]

[[broodspinner]] feels like a rare

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https://scryfall.com/card/dsk/211/broodspinner

Broodspinner <:manab:292901508872273920><:manag:292901508654301185>

Creature — Spider
Reach
When Broodspinner enters, surveil 2. (Look at the top two cards of your library, then put any number of them into your graveyard and the rest on top of your library in any order.)
, , Sacrifice Broodspinner: Create a number of 1/1 black and green Insect creature tokens with flying equal to the number of card types among cards in your graveyard.
2/3

[twilit canyon]

but its not

lol

but again

idk if it has a home

[[drag to the roots]] will be nice

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https://scryfall.com/card/dsk/213/drag-to-the-roots

Drag to the Roots <:mana2:292901509060886528><:manab:292901508872273920><:manag:292901508654301185>

Instant
Delirium — This spell costs less to cast as long as there are four or more card types among cards in your graveyard.
Destroy target nonland permanent.
"Valgavoth commands us to feed the trees. Let our blood be their mulch, our flesh their soil." —Victor, Valgavoth's seneschal

[golden plover]

Marvin is legacy playable

Only in that he's psychic Frog 5-8

He loses the card draw, but he's a cute tech

[twilit canyon]

freaky jikki is going to be playable

[golden plover]

I expect to see 1-2 marvin in a couple lists

I'm not sure what else he does

But being additional psychic frogs isn't bad

[twilit canyon]

the issue

its not blue

cant pitch to force

basically unplayable as a result

[golden plover]

Yeah that is a big downside

But like I said, I can see 1-2 popping up in lists

He's also the card I'd wager is most likely to enable a new archetype somewhere

[[Split Up]] is probably standard playable

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https://scryfall.com/card/dsk/32/split-up

Split Up <:mana1:292901508373282827><:manaw:1007102126813610074><:manaw:1007102126813610074>

Sorcery
Choose one —
• Destroy all tapped creatures.
• Destroy all untapped creatures.
"Don't be a wimp. We'll cover more ground this way." —Rian, former survivor

[golden plover]

Not sure anywhere else

[twilit canyon]

what does it replace

lockdown?

idts

[golden plover]

I mean, depends on the deck

Convoke can tap down all their guys for Knight-Errant and it's a 1-sided boardwipe

[twilit canyon]

i think as a card, it just wont work out

[golden plover]

I guess it depends on how much pyroclasm answers convoke

But I can see convoke running it as one-sided removal

Everything else in standard wants sunfall and pioneer is either sunfall or meathook tho

[twilit canyon]

and then theres clasm

lockdown also grabbing artis is good

[golden plover]

Oh true

Does fully depend on if convoke lives or not then

Speaking of Meathook

I think [[Meathook Massacre II]] is unplayable

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https://scryfall.com/card/dsk/108/meathook-massacre-ii

Meathook Massacre II <:manax:292901509082120202><:manax:292901509082120202><:manab:292901508872273920><:manab:292901508872273920><:manab:292901508872273920><:manab:292901508872273920>

Legendary Enchantment
When Meathook Massacre II enters, each player sacrifices X creatures.
Whenever a creature you control dies, you may pay 3 life. If you do, return that card under your control with a finality counter on it.
Whenever a creature an opponent controls dies, they may pay 3 life. If they don't, return that card under your control with a finality counter on it.

[twilit canyon]

yea

unless domain decides to get spicy in standard

[golden plover]

It's a cute EDH card

But it feels like a trap

[lusty trench]

Removal check

[golden plover]

Even at 4 mana, it's asking a lot

Because of that "may" trigger

[lusty trench]

It’s a removal check that also gets you targeted

[twilit canyon]

what

[golden plover]

If an opponent is trying to revive something like Atraxa or even that 1 drop from Ixalan

I'm always paying 3

[lusty trench]

In edh, people hate the group slug playstyle

[twilit canyon]

how is this a removal check tho

as in: kill the mhm2?

bc thats trivial

[golden plover]

If they're trying to get back a llanowar, I'll give them it

[lusty trench]

Yeah, you’d be surprised how many players in edh don’t run enchantment removal

[twilit canyon]

there are better ways to loop creatures in edh too

[golden plover]

Also BBBB is a very limiting asking cost upfront

Its the cost Sheoldred should've had tbh

[glad peak]

Do you know what else is a edh trap

[lusty trench]

There absolutely is, I’m just saying this will just piss people off because they hate effects that ping them like this, so you’ll end up having it removed or getting targeted

[glad peak]

The new blue leyline lol

[golden plover]

Speaking of super limiting asking costs [[Doomsday Excrutiator]] is cute

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https://scryfall.com/card/dsk/94/doomsday-excruciator

Doomsday Excruciator <:manab:292901508872273920><:manab:292901508872273920><:manab:292901508872273920><:manab:292901508872273920><:manab:292901508872273920><:manab:292901508872273920>

Creature — Demon
Flying
When Doomsday Excruciator enters, if it was cast, each player exiles all but the bottom six cards of their library face down.
At the beginning of your upkeep, draw a card.
"All stars grow dark. All worlds come to an end."
6/6

[glad peak]

Seeing prices for it fluctuate between 8-15$ lmao

[golden plover]

But it's BAD BAD

[lusty trench]

30 cent bulk rares cost that much nowadays? Boy inflation has gotten rough

[glad peak]

Shouldn’t even be 30 cents

[golden plover]

Hey don't shit on my pre-release promo (I'll go X-3 because I'll open it and 2 Marina then they'll drop to like $1)

Marina is UNPLAYABLE too

And I just know imma see her in at least 1 rare slot during pre-release

[golden plover]

Also, but what about the new green Leyline

It's worse than the blue one, somehow

[glad peak]

I can’t remember it which might be worse

[golden plover]

It's Leyline of Jodah (the first one)

[lusty trench]

I just realised how miserable the impending cycle is gonna be to go against in limited

[golden plover]

Makes it so you can pay WUBRG in place of a cards cost

[golden plover]

Oh they're HUGE bombs

[glad peak]

At least it’s not as big of a colander trap

[golden plover]

Ngl I'm just hoping this draft isnt... Exactly how every draft since WOE has been

[twilit canyon]

blue overlord kinda whatever

[golden plover]

But who am I kidding, it's definitely gonna be the same as every other play booster draft

We're probably about a year out of play booster drafts not just being aggro piles

[zinc shard]

Well

[sudden lava]

Lizard friend

[trail anvil]

and then all of your commons and uncommons go the way of otters /s

[zinc shard]

1 sec lemme get my deck

[golden plover]

3 Gev? You force lizards

[zinc shard]

My pulls were cracked

[trail anvil]

jesus that's busted lol

[sleek ferry]

I had to teach wotc a lesson for yall

You’re welcome

[twilit canyon]

beating up a poor overworked software engineer on their day off 😔

[atomic harness]

Holy I thought tron was washed @twilit canyon

dimir murk got bopped 😭

[twilit canyon]

dimirtide unlike izzet or grixis has a rough mu vs tron

dunno why this person didnt know that

[atomic harness]

Oh what key red card is dimir missing to make them that washed vs tron

[twilit canyon]

nevermind this person is just bad

[twilit canyon]

ragavan and drc

they are way more aggressive at closing a game out than frog

[atomic harness]

[twilit canyon]

they arent wrong

[atomic harness]

interesting

[[crumble to dust]]

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https://scryfall.com/card/bfz/128/crumble-to-dust

Crumble to Dust <:mana3:292901508771610624><:manar:292901508796645397>

Sorcery
Devoid (This card has no color.)
Exile target nonbasic land. Search its controller's graveyard, hand, and library for any number of cards with the same name as that land and exile them. Then that player shuffles.

[atomic harness]

oh is this better than break the ice?

[twilit canyon]

dont play this though

[atomic harness]

that sounds cap ya

[[break the ice]] this card is goated

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https://scryfall.com/card/mh2/77/break-the-ice

Break the Ice <:manab:292901508872273920><:manab:292901508872273920>

Sorcery
Destroy target land that is snow or could produce .
Overload (You may cast this spell for its overload cost. If you do, change "target" in its text to "each.")

[twilit canyon]

consign and break the ice does enough

[atomic harness]

[[consign]]

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https://scryfall.com/card/hou/149/consign-oblivion

Consign <:mana1:292901508373282827><:manau:292901508754702338>

Instant
Return target nonland permanent to its owner's hand.

Oblivion
Sorcery
Aftermath (Cast this spell only from your graveyard. Then exile it.)
Target opponent discards two cards.

[twilit canyon]

no

[[consign to memory]]

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https://scryfall.com/card/mh3/54/consign-to-memory

Consign to Memory <:manau:292901508754702338>

Instant
Replicate (When you cast this spell, copy it for each time you paid its replicate cost. You may choose new targets for the copies.)
Counter target triggered ability or colorless spell.
He wept not for what was, but what could never be.

[atomic harness]

oh sorry can u pull it up ty

ooo

wow thats rly good LOL

[twilit canyon]

yea

the thing about consign and break is that they play way better off of a t1 aggro creature

into a t2 break/consign

[atomic harness]

Monki...

Every time

[polar lake]

how many flavor games would i win if i had a Shadrix Silverquill deck that was all hand drawn

[lusty trench]

I just remembered akul from thunder junction

Man that pisses me off

Such a cool design wasted

[trail anvil]

yeah rip

[rigid scarab]

Im thinking of saving some wildcards to get hearse

But ghost vacuum is kinda just better huh

[golden plover]

Yeah what was the point of Akul

"Oh look at this cool new villain"

Does nothing all story and gets a single random rare

[trail anvil]

[[ghost vacuum]]

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https://scryfall.com/card/dsk/248/ghost-vacuum

Ghost Vacuum <:mana1:292901508373282827>

Artifact
: Exile target card from a graveyard.
, , Sacrifice Ghost Vacuum: Put each creature card exiled with Ghost Vacuum onto the battlefield under your control with a flying counter on it. Each of them is a 1/1 Spirit in addition to its other types. Activate only as a sorcery.

[trail anvil]

which format?

[rigid scarab]

Explorer

[trail anvil]

is hearse not better positioned vs phoenix? you don't really want their creatures back on the field and hitting 2 can be relevant

I can't imagine a place you'd actually prefer ghost vacuum outside of abusing strong etbs

[golden plover]

I think hearse is better

But I think Ghost vacuum has some niche use cases that makes it a valid sidegrade

[rigid scarab]

I think my opponent is doing an infinite extra turn deck

With no wincon?

Like Im sorry but if you dont have a way to win the game Im not conceding

[zinc shard]

I think you can report them for that

[rigid scarab]

They eventually got to professor onyx

But man bo1 is really volatile huh

Bc no shot that deck lasts g2 and 3

[golden plover]

Bo1 has lots of shit like that

[rigid scarab]

As in EDH-ass combo decks

Why am I such a stupid idiot

And only now realist that Ygra + cat on field + cat in grave is and infinite

[golden plover]

Whatever the fuck combo deck this is learns what Damping Sphere does

[sleek ferry]

[[damping sphere]]

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https://scryfall.com/card/dmr/219/damping-sphere

Damping Sphere <:mana2:292901509060886528>

Artifact
If a land is tapped for two or more mana, it produces instead of any other type and amount.
Each spell a player casts costs more to cast for each other spell that player has cast this turn.
A Thran relic, it has spent ten thousand years doing absolutely nothing.

[golden plover]

We mostly side it for Nykthos

But hey, turning off your lotus is funny too

[golden plover]

God they definitely have to hit treasure cruise

Phoenix being able to come back from anything is insane

[rigid scarab]

I think my deck rn has too much green and not enough red?

[trail anvil]

in explorer? which spell were they using?

[rigid scarab]

Lich's Mastery + Chance for Glory

[trail anvil]

ahhh

[rigid scarab]

And a ton of instant copying and recurring

[trail anvil]

nah that's probably horrid lol but funny

extra turns with no wincon gave me nexus flashbacks

[rigid scarab]

And they were emoting all game

[trail anvil]

I usually just mute people after the second

[rigid scarab]

I see it as an honor thing

"Yeah I'm gonna kill you even while your emoting your ass off"

[trail anvil]

if you wanna go that way, your prerogative.

[trail anvil]

wait chainsaw is crazy, this thing triggers on any death

[lusty trench]

Lgs canceled my endless punishment precon cause lack of stock

Found another small card store selling it for retail

:3

[stark skiff]

God bless small stores

[gritty nest]

I’m waiting on my preorders to ship tbh

[rigid scarab]

Beating monored always feels good

[atomic harness]

best manga kid

[twilit canyon]

https://tenor.com/view/csm-chainsaw-man-pochita-break-dance-gif-27147645

[gritty nest]

i want your guys opinion

[[Kadena, Slinking]] or [[Kaust]]

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https://scryfall.com/card/c19/45/kadena-slinking-sorcerer

Kadena, Slinking Sorcerer <:mana1:292901508373282827><:manab:292901508872273920><:manag:292901508654301185><:manau:292901508754702338>

Legendary Creature — Snake Wizard
The first face-down creature spell you cast each turn costs less to cast.
Whenever a face-down creature you control enters, draw a card.
"The only constant in life is the unknown."
3/3

https://scryfall.com/card/mkc/1/kaust-eyes-of-the-glade

Kaust, Eyes of the Glade <:manarw:292901508834525190><:manag:292901508654301185>

Legendary Creature — Dryad Detective
Whenever a creature you control that was turned face up this turn deals combat damage to a player, draw a card.
: Turn target face-down attacking creature you control face up.
If you think you're being watched, you're probably right.
2/2

[gritty nest]

which do you guys think would be better?

[urban crane]

Cant wait till I have my rakdos precon and can play groupslug wil be especially funny if i play against any grouphug

[stark skiff]

meh 1/2 done and best thing so far is Enduring Tenacity Jpn Showcase

[stark skiff]

rip box was shit

i blame @atomic harness

[atomic harness]

Nice troll son

[trail anvil]

oof what did you pull

[stark skiff]

Enduring Tenacity was the only Jpn Showcase

no Kaito, no Meathook, no Valgavoth

not sure what else is value

good thing i only planned on opening one of these compared to bloomburrow

[trail anvil]

I feel like the impending nightmares might be decent money

mythic and modal

[stark skiff]

oh the overlords? i think i got like one extended nonfoil lol

not a fan of the textured cards so ill just focus on picking up the fracture foils probably go for the endurings first since the overlord art is w/e to me and theyre not all that great

[trail anvil]

the red one seems the most questionable to me. I get it goes face, but I'd rather it did 1 less damage to be 1 mana cheaper or something

[stark skiff]

oh yeah i just like the art the best out of the five in fractured foil lol

just weird that only the blue one has any keyword

[urban crane]

Works in the new groupslug precon right? Or pass on it?

[modern minnow]

wym

[stark skiff]

huh

[urban crane]

If it would be worthwhile to play it or don’t bother?

[modern minnow]

its about as playable as it would be in any other deck

[urban crane]

Fair

[broken fjord]

It functions. But it offers no synergy with the deck. If anything, you'll die faster since people will be ganging up on you anyway.

[sudden lava]

No synergy

[golden plover]

The Rakdos Aggro deck is stupid unfun to play against

Very cool to just lose t3 because they got enough creatures and 1 drops

[rigid scarab]

Nothing like mana flooding against an aggro deck

Woooo!

[sudden lava]

https://youtu.be/Kgwym5S_Jhk

ZMainCharacter and Maldhound

https://youtu.be/0KvL3yYm5i8

And new Commander at Home with the Moth

@lusty trench moth friend

[lusty trench]

Da moth

[sleek ferry]

Control mirror be like

He surrendered because I was way ahead

[sudden lava]

Spoilers for the Deckedout episode: ||MTGNerdGirl is on a rule zero deck with 20+ copies of "say its name" because it's the beetlejuice of magic. She got it out turn 2 thanks to sol ring and lucky milling ||

[lusty trench]

||>twenty copies||
A mean that's a bit greedy tbh

[glad peak]

Commander players stealing cards from standard players once again

Nah tho I sort of like the idea of removing the singleton limit

[sleek ferry]

[[say its name]]

[lost widget]

https://scryfall.com/card/dsk/197/say-its-name

Say Its Name <:mana1:292901508373282827><:manag:292901508654301185>

Sorcery
Mill three cards. Then you may return a creature or land card from your graveyard to your hand.
Exile this card and two other cards named Say Its Name from your graveyard: Search your graveyard, hand, and/or library for a card named Altanak, the Thrice-Called and put it onto the battlefield. If you search your library this way, shuffle. Activate only as a sorcery.

[sleek ferry]

[[altanak, the thrice called]]

[lost widget]

https://scryfall.com/card/dsk/166/altanak-the-thrice-called

Altanak, the Thrice-Called <:mana5:292901508796645386><:manag:292901508654301185><:manag:292901508654301185>

Legendary Creature — Insect Beast
Trample
Whenever Altanak, the Thrice-Called becomes the target of a spell or ability an opponent controls, draw a card.
, Discard Altanak, the Thrice-Called: Return target land card from your graveyard to the battlefield tapped.
9/9

[lusty trench]

I feel like the max they should've been allowed is 8

It still gives you better odds to get it out than in standard (4/60 Vs 8/99)

[sudden lava]

yeah 8 or 9

(9 cuz 3 x 3)

[zinc shard]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uTPmRfMEBe4

[sudden lava]

All the commander vods today

[sudden lava]

you know what secret lair we need?

https://a57.foxnews.com/static.foxnews.com/foxnews.com/content/uploads/2024/09/1200/675/Moo-Deng-Split.jpg?ve=1&tl=1

Moo Deng secret lair

[golden plover]

What

[twilit canyon]

why the fuck would we need a lair of a hippo that went viral like

[lusty trench]

It baby hippo

[twilit canyon]

a few days ago

[lusty trench]

It is not old enough to be able to eat solid foods, yet it monches on nothing anyway cause it's parents do it

And now it's famous

[golden plover]

How is it related to MTG tho

[twilit canyon]

completely unrelated

[lusty trench]

The only relation I can find is that wotc is tone deaf enough to try and make a meme lair

[golden plover]

Guys there's horse cards when are we getting a Budweiser Clydesdale lair

[twilit canyon]

besides saying wotc should make secret lairs of things that came out literally days ago as a meme

[golden plover]

The fucking comic sans one

[twilit canyon]

skibbidi toilet lair when

genuinely would make more sense for one

actually

[lusty trench]

I have now realised I will live long enough to see rizz and gyatt on a card

[twilit canyon]

thats what you think

🔪

[golden plover]

When are we getting a baby gronk v rizzler lair

[glad peak]

we have a better chance of getting a skibidi toilet card than a moo deng anything

[golden plover]

If we get a moo deng card it'd be like 2 years from now when the meme has passed

[twilit canyon]

meme is passing in about a week at most

[lusty trench]

Oh shit I just realised prerelease is tomorrow

I should probably be preparing for that huh

[golden plover]

Just force red

[lusty trench]

My plan is to open razorhead and go home :3 I will be unstoppable

[golden plover]

Speaking of opening, I get to open my collectors boosters when I get home

(Saving the box to draft)

Here's hoping I get a red cavern, a foil jeweled lotus, and a shatterfoil Rhystic Study

[twilit canyon]

green is also crazy

so is white tbh

[modern minnow]

what 5 cards would u put in a skibidi secret lair

like i assume theres some sort of control magic effect

[golden plover]

Why did Wotc not provide advanced tracking for festival in a box? It tells me it was sent to a parcel locker but doesn't say where that is because UPS needs advanced tracking

Guess I'll drive around after work to find it

[glad peak]

I’d put polnareff in a toilet in the skibidi secret lair

[sudden lava]

https://tcgplayer-cdn.tcgplayer.com/product/5902_in_1000x1000.jpg

that be the bonus card

Pheldagriff also cuz hippo

[golden plover]

Cant

Reserved list

[sudden lava]

rip

[golden plover]

Actually, both are

[sudden lava]

both pheldagriffs I assume, not pheldagriff and pygmy

[glad peak]

Ahem say it with me everyone

Just because a card has a card type does not mean it automatically fits that theme

[sudden lava]

Morophon for the Moo Deng secret lair (ok kinda cheating cuz technically a hippo )

[glad peak]

That’s like trying to put in all of the dragons in magic into Magda because Magda says dragon in it

Or make najeela human tribal for no real reason

Or making child of alara an avatar tribal deck with a bunch of changelings too and literally nothing else

[golden plover]

No Pygmy is too

[[Questing Phelddagryf]] is actually not reserved list

[lost widget]

https://scryfall.com/card/pls/119/questing-phelddagrif

Questing Phelddagrif <:mana1:292901508373282827><:manag:292901508654301185><:manaw:1007102126813610074><:manau:292901508754702338>

Creature — Phelddagrif
: Questing Phelddagrif gets +1/+1 until end of turn. Target opponent creates a 1/1 green Hippo creature token.
: Questing Phelddagrif gains protection from black and from red until end of turn. Target opponent gains 2 life.
: Questing Phelddagrif gains flying until end of turn. Target opponent may draw a card.
4/4

[golden plover]

But again, this is pointless lol

[glad peak]

Same people who put massacre girl into a human token deck because she’s a human and humans go in human decks

[copper pecan]

basic plains but it's ohio

[[enthralling victor]] (the rizzler)

[lost widget]

https://scryfall.com/card/bbd/176/enthralling-victor

Enthralling Victor <:mana3:292901508771610624><:manar:292901508796645397>

Creature — Human Warrior
When Enthralling Victor enters, gain control of target creature an opponent controls with power 2 or less until end of turn. Untap that creature. It gains haste until end of turn. (It can attack and this turn.)
If you stare at the sun for too long, you'll lose your ability to see clearly.
3/2

[copper pecan]

something that cares about high toughness (the gyatt)

[glad peak]

Roxanne

[sudden lava]

Everywhere token (see duskmourn's green impending card) but it's Ohio

[zinc shard]

Not sure if this was posted yet, Duskmourne background

[golden plover]

I still wish we could pick the background

[zinc shard]

Same

[golden plover]

I like this one and a few of the others, but ones like the Amonkhet one I don't like

[copper pecan]

can't believe the nes is canon to mtg

[golden plover]

@lusty trench of course

[lusty trench]

THE GOAT

LONG MAY HE REIGN

Any other spicy pulls

[golden plover]

Nothing crazy yet

Got white border karn

HOLY SHIT

My foil was RIP

Future Sights

[lusty trench]

Gas

[golden plover]

White Borders

WAIT THE WASTES IS $50 TOO?

[lusty trench]

I'd imagine the karn is a pretty penny too

[golden plover]

Everything currently selling for over $50

[lusty trench]

I assume you've put aside some packs for draft?

[golden plover]

I'm cubing it

Swapping the Sol Ring for [[Convention Maro]] and preparing to use it as a cube a couple times before moving on to selling pieces and whatnot

[lost widget]

https://scryfall.com/card/slp/999-CM/convention-maro

Convention Maro <:mana1:292901508373282827><:manag:292901508654301185><:mana2u:292901508721410058><:mana2r:292901508310368259>

Legendary Creature — Elemental Gamer
Whenever you cast a spell that [CHOICE A], create a green Elemental creature token named Maro with "This creature's power and toughness are each equal to the number of [CHOICE B]."
— As you create your deck, choose an [A] and a [B] —
• [A1] "is an Elemental" | [A2] "has a watermark or landscape orientation" | [A3] "targets a creature you control"
• [B1] "cards in your hand" | [B2] "card types among cards in your graveyard" | [B3] "artists among nonland, nontoken permanents you control"
3/3

[golden plover]

Do we know how rare the foils in the box are?

[lusty trench]

They're 1 a box iirc

[golden plover]

That makes sense

I did get 1

[golden plover]

Oh wait I made out CRAZY in future Sights. Temporal Manipulation, Pact of Negation, and Cabal Ritual are all like $20 cards before fancy treatments

[sleek ferry]

You got a crazy box

Be happy

[golden plover]

I am pretty happy with it

I'm also buying a brainstorm, misstep, non-foil nexus (finally), and brain freeze off a friend

[stark skiff]

Is there anything good in the box

Mines came in. Idk if to open or hold and sell later

[golden plover]

It's got a ton of playable cards and cool stuff

[stark skiff]

That’s neat and all but where’s the

https://tenor.com/view/redlettermedia-mikestoklasa-value-gif-7708788

[golden plover]

A lot of the cards are preselling for $50+

Anything popular in the future sight frame is guaranteed to be worth something

I pulled a future sight sol ring, for instance

[copper pecan]

the mtg show has been uncancelled

[rigid scarab]

Jesus christ which is it

It will never be known until episode 1 is literally released

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F1nvE9gX4_o&ab_channel=TheTrinketMage

What makes Trinket Mage salty in EDH:

• Copying Scrambleverse
• Blatantly lying
• Spite kingmaking
• Breaking deals

[trail anvil]

spite kingmaking can ruin a table tbh

[trail anvil]

jesus how much did the packs cost?

[golden plover]

Bought the box for $200

Festival in a box was not a bad deal

Also my future sights were way better value-wise

[sleek ferry]

So you going to show your future sight pulls or what

[golden plover]

Wait I also got a Liesa, Narset's Reversal, and Equilibrium lol

[sleek ferry]

The card pool isn’t as big as the OG mystery booster no?

OG one was 1500 cards, how big is this one

[golden plover]

No clue how big the commons/uncommons are

[stark skiff]

No I’m shy

[sleek ferry]

Wait, this one is actually bigger lmao

1800 cards

[golden plover]

Yeah

[stark skiff]

Foil Foil did I get trolled

[sleek ferry]

Brother

You got future sight lotus petal, underworld breach, mind break trap, demonic consultation and death’s shadow

I’ve never seen something telling you to play cedh more than this

[golden plover]

Foil Foil is huge

It's only available in foil

[rigid scarab]

Daily "Please send this to LGSs" post

[stark skiff]

To where

[golden plover]

Honestly

[lusty trench]

Avrinox is missing the text that indicates that it is the same card as the secret lair version

Given that it has no gatherer rulings: you can now run both avrinox and its secret lair version in the same deck, as the text is what stops you from running both

(This will be fixed as a ruling probably very soon)

[rigid scarab]

Avrinox vs Arvinox

Some mandela bullshit

[golden plover]

Wait it's Arvinox?

Could've sworn it was Avrinox

[rigid scarab]

It'll be Avrinox tomorrow

[gritty nest]

Does anyone have like

The full card of the duskmourn printing

Since the one above is cut off

[golden plover]

Yup it's missing the SL text

[gritty nest]

What’s the avrinox arvinox thing for then?

[sudden lava]

https://commandersherald.com/first-look-at-the-marvel-and-magic-the-gathering-crossover-at-nycc/

Next Month on the 18th the next UB reveals begin

[golden plover]

[twilit canyon]

i wonder what goes through the mind of anyone who is actually excited about this

i would assume not much

[lusty trench]

It’s just a memory of a spider man and iron man action figure clashing into each other

[golden plover]

Who's ready for 99% of the set to be duds and 1 card to break legacy

[twilit canyon]

im ready for some real cheese

like jeskai captain america

[rigid scarab]

"Hey what's going on guys MarvelFan1800 here back with another news video! Today I have been Sponsored By Wizards of the Coast to talk to you about-"

Needless to say that UB popularity has not been the best lately

Doctor Who didn't do great

Assasin's Creed was iconic trash

[twilit canyon]

real talk its entirely bc both of those ips are super whatever

[rigid scarab]

Marvel needs to be another LOTR

[twilit canyon]

i cant think that a lot dr who fans are tcg fans

[trail anvil]

did doctor who not do great? I swear I see those precons everywhere

[twilit canyon]

and ac is a washed ip

[rigid scarab]

You see them bc no one bought them

[trail anvil]

are you saying it's cheaper or

[rigid scarab]

Oh right I forgot they did UB Clue

lmao

[twilit canyon]

that one was whatever

in-house ip

fallout did pretty decent

[trail anvil]

man I really want universe within clue cards, those styles look atrocious to me

custommagic lookin-ass

[rigid scarab]

WOTC does have full intent on making Marvel another LOTR

[lusty trench]

The font kills me

[rigid scarab]

Main set with precons

Modern legal

Advent calendar

[trail anvil]

even the set symbol looks jank, even if it is taken from the clue logo

[sudden lava]

By precons you mean modern legal or commander?

[rigid scarab]

I imagine they get goodwill based on making cards for hyper obscure characters and making the comic bros soyjack

Commander obvs

[sudden lava]

ok good

[rigid scarab]

No way they're not doing commander precons for marvel

Free money

[lusty trench]

One of one infinity gauntlet

[twilit canyon]

yea

unfort

they should do them as modern precons

commander players deserve nothing

[sudden lava]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/448940916833648640/1286726325071253524/image.png?ex=66eef4c6&is=66eda346&hm=81b161551938c564d17b6598818bcb0d0ed950934980b665123e90bb0c96e322&=&format=webp&quality=lossless&width=417&height=578

[rigid scarab]

One of one of each infinity stone

[lusty trench]

The art lines up with a 1/1 glove

[trail anvil]

I wouldn't be surprised if it was just signet cause they've done a gauntlet signet already

[rigid scarab]

True!

[sudden lava]

Thanos 5c commander that makes fist of suns on enter

[rigid scarab]

I think every single person who ever played a commander game needs to melt into a giant vat of sludge

[twilit canyon]

that would be extremely lame

[twilit canyon]

real

and true

[lusty trench]

https://tenor.com/view/oats-no-pigs-pig-brother-gif-8274685160072684375

[rigid scarab]

Starting tomorrow

[sudden lava]

Iron Man precon thats voltron because why not

[twilit canyon]

because that'd be boring

[sudden lava]

with an artifact subtheme

[rigid scarab]

Not even commander players want all this attention tbf

[twilit canyon]

thats true too lol

thats the funniest part

[sudden lava]

~~and treasure generation because rich ~~

[twilit canyon]

i've been coming across more and more commander players who are totally tired of this much commander(s)

[lusty trench]

Tbh if I could dodge the marvel secret lair from having even one card that interests me I’d be happy

[rigid scarab]

Like no one would have been complaining if MH3 didn't have precons

They're complaining about having too much food and now being fat

[trail anvil]

I want more commanders

we need every possible permutation of commander

[twilit canyon]

no one would have complained about nadu being designed for modern rather than commander

[golden plover]

A ton of the recent commander products have been nothing

Like all the precons have been whatever

[twilit canyon]

this is the exact opposite of what people wanted out of commander since forever

[rigid scarab]

Do we know how well bloomburrow drafts did

[golden plover]

We need more stuff like mystery booster 2, reprints of important commander cards

[trail anvil]

disagree, bumbleflower goes hard as hell

[rigid scarab]

That would be a sign telling WOTC that they need to focus more on 60 card

[golden plover]

But that's super limited in distribution and instead we get a ton of nothing sets and wasted slots in 60 card formats

[trail anvil]

idk like how though

[golden plover]

Like I've gone on record about how lame it is to draft Obeka or Eriette

[twilit canyon]

at the very least it feels like duskmourn has been decent there

[trail anvil]

they don't seem intent on moving back rotation so standard is harder to make OP cards for without shifting something else

[twilit canyon]

not too many legendaries

a ton of tuned stuff like altanak

that says "have 3 of this card"

and this card doesnt has "any number"

this is good

[rigid scarab]

Not too many legendaries but it seems obvious to me that Duskmourn has a lot of made for commander cards

[lusty trench]

The decks are also very middle of the road but good enough for what people want to do with them

[twilit canyon]

yep

some of the mythics are commander cards

[lusty trench]

…except winter but ig thy can’t all be winners out the box

[golden plover]

Yeah there's a lot of commander cards in the Duskmorn main set too

[twilit canyon]

but, for the most part

[sudden lava]

When I mentioned that soon I'll be playing my new valgavoth deck for some reason this one guy (note: He also has bumbleflower, he also has an energy deck) thought that meant I will stop bringing bumbleflower . Nah not ever giving up that chonky rabbit

[twilit canyon]

most of the set is fine for constructed

[trail anvil]

I feel like mythics have usually been commander cards no?

[twilit canyon]

yes

[golden plover]

But it's got a couple more relevant cards

[trail anvil]

the whole point of mythics is fitting in the more jank shit

or particularly powerful stuff

[rigid scarab]

Also uh

4 commander precons every set

Way too much

WOE was 2 and no one complained

[lusty trench]

2 decks with more original cards I wouldn’t mind

[trail anvil]

they need to do less product all around

quality control slipping hard

[rigid scarab]

I mean that much is true

[golden plover]

Mythics are either way too commander brained or intentionally super pushed for 60 card

[lusty trench]

If it stops them from printing hex in a precon ever again I’m all for it

[golden plover]

And yeah, dialing back the number of products is a good idea

[rigid scarab]

Quality over quantity

[sudden lava]

at least we have confirmation this wont always be the case

[rigid scarab]

Yknow how it goes

[golden plover]

They could still fill the slot with a solid reprint set every year if they REALLY need to

I mean, again, Mystery Booster 2 is one of the best sets in recent years

[lusty trench]

Honestly something I wouldn’t mind

[trail anvil]

I think the idea behind 4 precons is unironically to get players playing against each other with each precon in a set

[golden plover]

If it was slotted in as a regular ass set and not... The way it was, it'd be a lot better

[trail anvil]

I feel sorry for the pod that did that with a set like LCI commander though lol

[lusty trench]

Value boosters but instead of being tied to a set they were a small set that had needed common/uncommon reprints

[golden plover]

Although I guess reprint sets really only excite enfranchised players

[gritty nest]

Another “wotc printing too much shit” debate again?

[sudden lava]

death race is going to have only|| 2 ||precons iirc, and the Tarkir set is going to have|| 5||

[rigid scarab]

At least we know uh

[twilit canyon]

not a debate since we are all in agreeance

[rigid scarab]

WOTC has a very easy PR boost they can do

[trail anvil]

yeah I mean we can't go one day without hating commander 😎 you know how it is

[rigid scarab]

"Hey guys Mystery Booster 2 is coming to LGSs"

[twilit canyon]

i am commander's biggest hater rn

[rigid scarab]

Bigger than mudkip?

[twilit canyon]

if commander has 1 hater, thats me

if commander has no haters, that means i am dead

[trail anvil]

but "wotc print less stuff" is like saying "guys are nazis bad", although ig that question is somehow controversial now

[golden plover]

See I just wanna play competitive formats in person

But every LGS is just all commander players

[rigid scarab]

I'm perfectly fine with commander

[trail anvil]

idk then have better formats

[lusty trench]

So what I’m hearing is casual edh tournaments

[golden plover]

Commander is fine as a nice little side thing

[rigid scarab]

I do not want commander players to be shot on sight and dumped in the river unfortunately

[golden plover]

But it should not be the main focus

[rigid scarab]

But the oversaturation is a problem

[golden plover]

Pioneer is actually genuinely in a very good spot rn

[twilit canyon]

i agree

[rigid scarab]

It's getting to the point where we're considering WOTC focusing on commander like a competitive format

[twilit canyon]

i think modern, pioneer, standard are in great spots rn

[golden plover]

But Wotc is half assing it and pioneer doesn't get the attention it deserves because it's not commander precons

[rigid scarab]

Which imo ruins the whole point

[twilit canyon]

its fucking weird

three playable paper formats

[trail anvil]

it's gonna take a while for people to hop back on that train after the format has been the red headed step child for what, 3 years?

[golden plover]

I only have experience for pioneer but the format is WIDE open (barring the obvious treasure cruise problem)

[rigid scarab]

Pioneer is currently "The eternal format without UB"

[twilit canyon]

i have played a bit of phoenix recently

[golden plover]

It feels like a good diverse format tho and like 1-2 more bans would get it pretty much perfectly where it needs to be rn

[rigid scarab]

Although WOTC could make Marvel pioneer legal and ruin everything

[twilit canyon]

it feels absurd but not totally unbeatable unless i hit multiple cruise off cruise

[golden plover]

Yeah, the issue for Phoenix is really cruise

[twilit canyon]

so remove cruise and i think the format is like

fair

[golden plover]

I've been playing Phoenix on and off too

[rigid scarab]

Ban Sleight of Hand

[golden plover]

Phoenix without cruise would require you to commit to your turn to get 3-4 Phoenixes down in 1 turn

Because sleight of hand into opt into consider doesn't always happen

[rigid scarab]

I do feel like blue decks did not need 12 opts

[golden plover]

But with cruise, it's a lot more likely

[rigid scarab]

Although Im a pioneer baby

[twilit canyon]

we need 16 actually

give me ponder

[golden plover]

And then you definitely need to hit Nykthos if you're hitting cruise

[twilit canyon]

idts actually

i think nykthos can be beaten easily

by the aggro decks and by food

[golden plover]

Nykthos is strong and without Phoenix to check devotion it could become overbearing

[twilit canyon]

and phoenix beats it too

[rigid scarab]

Do you one better

[golden plover]

Yeah, Nykthos isn't as good as it's been prior

[rigid scarab]

Brainstorm

[twilit canyon]

nah ponder > brainstorm most cases

[golden plover]

But I think it's maybe a bit too free rn

[twilit canyon]

pioneer doesnt has fetches and while its proven that its still broken without them, i'd rather ponder

[golden plover]

Another concern is potentially how fast that Rakdos Aggro deck can kill

But I don't think it's necessary of a hit yet

It's just gonna take format settling because it struggles to get the kill through removal

[twilit canyon]

i feel like rakdos being so popular is bc theres no other way to beat phoenix

gotta be faster than phoenix to beat it

[golden plover]

Yeah honestly

I think without Phoenix being as insane, Rakdos falls off a bit

[twilit canyon]

bc phoenix can go zoom on cantrips/draws

if you remove cruise, phoenix needs to be more linear

[rigid scarab]

What specifically got phoenix to be the deck to beat?

[twilit canyon]

which means a rakdos deck (and phoenix) can be beaten

[rigid scarab]

Is it just every deck got weaker

[twilit canyon]

treasure cruise

[golden plover]

Because everything else just plays enough removal or big threats fast that aggro can't get the kill

[twilit canyon]

it was already the best deck

[golden plover]

Yeah, 100% treasure cruise

[twilit canyon]

then the other decks got banned

[golden plover]

What I don't understand is why it's legal in the first place

[rigid scarab]

Amalia deserved it tbf

[twilit canyon]

expressive iteration banned

[golden plover]

They've gone on record prior saying cruise was a design mistake

[twilit canyon]

they banned iteration over cruise bc "we want the format to be different"

[golden plover]

Cruise is a card that gets better the more cards are in the format and it's too free

Yeah true. That was also the reason for Leyline over Nykthos

[stark skiff]

https://tenor.com/view/toad-hype-overload-overload-gif-7868864

[rigid scarab]

Wait which leyline got banned

[rigid scarab]

We found MarvelFan1800

[golden plover]

But outside of commander, cruise is banned everywhere because turns out it's usually kinda just ancestral recall

[golden plover]

[[Leyline of Abundance]]

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https://scryfall.com/card/m20/179/leyline-of-abundance

Leyline of Abundance <:mana2:292901509060886528><:manag:292901508654301185><:manag:292901508654301185>

Enchantment
If Leyline of Abundance is in your opening hand, you may begin the game with it on the battlefield.
Whenever you tap a creature for mana, add an additional .
: Put a +1/+1 counter on each creature you control.

[rigid scarab]

Ah

[golden plover]

Although you could make an argument that Leyline of The Guildpact is better for Nykthos ramp

[twilit canyon]

it is kinda

the thing about abundance is that its kinda shit

and was not a good ban

[golden plover]

Yeah, abundance is fine for the few dorks it played

[twilit canyon]

played 8 dorks

[golden plover]

But it was objectively not the right hit

[sudden lava]

Calling it, one precon is gonna be voltron/treasure/artifact matters with Iron Man

https://tenor.com/view/iron-man-tony-stark-robert-downey-jr-marvel-superhero-gif-16430080

[twilit canyon]

the thing is that it makes dorks actual threats

[golden plover]

But again, they specifically mentioned "we wanna keep Nykthos in the format for the sake of diversity"

[rigid scarab]

I've been trying to decipher what Misty's pfp is for like a week

[rigid scarab]

Iron Man is defo gonna be a precon

[twilit canyon]

i have swapped it around

so gl

in fact

[rigid scarab]

As in like

Are those shoulders

[sudden lava]

what color would Iron Man be though?

[rigid scarab]

Or a fucked up blanket

[sudden lava]

Izzet?

[rigid scarab]

Or sleeves

[golden plover]

Scarf?

[rigid scarab]

Boros

Iron man colors

[twilit canyon]

oh ur overthinking it

[sudden lava]

Oh yeah true Boros could work

[twilit canyon]

leaning on her arms

[golden plover]

Ohh

See my pfp is always easy

It's just whatever my most recent sfw art is

[rigid scarab]

Fucking optical illusion

[golden plover]

although it's been cropped from nsfw art in the past

[sudden lava]

I'd add blue to it (cuz science) but Jesakai has a more obvious commander face choice

[golden plover]

But yeah, in conclusion, Pioneer good

[twilit canyon]

modern good

[golden plover]

More people should be playing pioneer

[sudden lava]

https://tenor.com/view/captain-america-i-understood-that-reference-look-back-gif-14556485

[twilit canyon]

rn

fr

standard

is good

[rigid scarab]

Everything else poopoo stinky!

[twilit canyon]

despite the lack of aggro

[golden plover]

But Wotc isn't really supporting it

Also pls don't ban fable

Fable is a fair card and my 2/2 goblin shaman has done nothing wrong

[rigid scarab]

Understood

Banned to -1 copies

You must tear a copy when you enter the venue

[sudden lava]

No way they are going to do an Iron Man+ Captain America Precon surely they will get separate ones?

[rigid scarab]

You know what would be neat

One precon is avengers

[twilit canyon]

fable of the mirror breaker 2

[rigid scarab]

One precon is the thunderbolts

One precon is x-men

One precon is "villains"

[sudden lava]

Villains one is 5 colors

[golden plover]

Fable 2 makes the goblin token and kiki jiki on etb

[sudden lava]

https://tenor.com/view/thanos-infinity-gauntlet-snap-finger-snap-gif-12502580

[golden plover]

II is "discard your hand and draw 7"

[rigid scarab]

Still 3 mana btw

[twilit canyon]

lmao no way

that'd be like a 10 mana card

[rigid scarab]

Only in the pioneer legal mh4

[golden plover]

III is "Fuck it, I dunno, Mizzix's mastery?"

Wait is there a Mizzix's Mastery for creatures

Because it's that

I love Mizzix's Mastery btw

One of my favorite Elsha wincons

[twilit canyon]

isnt it

scholar of the lost trove

[[scholar of the lost trove]]

[lost widget]

https://scryfall.com/card/jmp/14/scholar-of-the-lost-trove

Scholar of the Lost Trove <:mana5:292901508796645386><:manau:292901508754702338><:manau:292901508754702338>

Creature — Sphinx
Flying
When Scholar of the Lost Trove enters, you may cast target instant, sorcery, or artifact card from your graveyard without paying its mana cost. If an instant or sorcery spell cast this way would be put into your graveyard, exile it instead.
5/5

[golden plover]

Oh it's just one

Mizzix's Mastery is all

[twilit canyon]

only overloaded

[golden plover]

Yeah but when does that card not overload

[twilit canyon]

frequently in historic

theres a bo1 combo list using both scholar and mizzix

to cast emergence ultimatum or dragonstorm

[lusty trench]

Not bad

[lusty trench]

Got a single collectors

[sleek ferry]

That’s a nice art

[lusty trench]

It's going straight into karlach

I'm honestly just thankful it wasn't the deer

[gritty nest]

I bought 2 packs, pulled the alt art unstoppable slasher

[sudden lava]

wait how, prerelease just started

[lusty trench]

Lgs' can sell product during prerelease

Has been that way for a fair bit now

[sudden lava]

Ah

[stark skiff]

nice turns out i got it

forgot these cards have small tweaks lmao

thought i pulled the poor one

https://preview.redd.it/yc75mgpyrzpd1.jpg?width=1125&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=bb79431a6c8bd32fb4fe6b7940ba62d4b01f44ce
https://preview.redd.it/ejzv4gpyrzpd1.jpg?width=1125&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=c57b485c251ae1199d7841809e2706afaf611623
https://preview.redd.it/7edflfpyrzpd1.jpg?width=1125&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=b306ea0303da622ec95e1a11e5c6d6d328994d45
https://preview.redd.it/ojwqfhpyrzpd1.jpg?width=1125&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=523ac700325b0cd6cc757182bf815e14bdc03bba
https://preview.redd.it/1enm0gpyrzpd1.jpg?width=1125&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=a2e204c407e84950b5c02905dc40f293387995be

[lusty trench]

Mill mill mill mill TIVIT IS THAT YOU

[trail anvil]

rip, ups delayed the shipment for my store's DSK prerelease

might not even show up today

[glad peak]

So is this directly a junji ito thing or just a similar looking girl?

[golden plover]

Similar looking

[glad peak]

Oh huh the proxy-less cedh event that I blew off earlier in the year apparently decided to make it proxy friendly

But I didn’t know because I stopped paying attention after I heard no proxies

Probably going to play Magda regardless tbh

[rigid scarab]

Ok Im never going to open a loose pack when walking without sleeves ever again

Opened a Valgavoth that got dinged on the way home

[trail anvil]

rip

[rigid scarab]

Got 5k gold

Gonna wait for duskmourn to spend them

Draft or 5 packs?

5 packs away from gold pack

[zinc shard]

Quick Draft for Duskmourn wont be available for a couple weeks, so you'll need 10k if you wanna draft right away

[gritty nest]

what do you guys think of [[Come Back Wrong]] in EDH?

[lost widget]

https://scryfall.com/card/dsk/86/come-back-wrong

Come Back Wrong <:mana2:292901509060886528><:manab:292901508872273920>

Sorcery
Destroy target creature. If a creature card is put into a graveyard this way, return it to the battlefield under your control. Sacrifice it at the beginning of your next end step.
"See?! That's why you always burn the bodies." —Rip, spawn hunter

[rigid scarab]

Seems situational

Most times its a sorcery speed murder

[gritty nest]

itll steal commanders, which is funny

[trail anvil]

you need some kind of synergy with it like [[obeka, brute chronologist]]

[lost widget]

https://scryfall.com/card/cmr/289/obeka-brute-chronologist

Obeka, Brute Chronologist <:mana1:292901508373282827><:manau:292901508754702338><:manab:292901508872273920><:manar:292901508796645397>

Legendary Creature — Ogre Wizard
: The player whose turn it is may end the turn. (Exile all spells and abilities from the stack. The player whose turn it is discards down to their maximum hand size. Damage wears off, and "this turn" and "until end of turn" effects end.)
"I'm bored with now."
3/4

[gritty nest]

steal someones commander than find a way to flip it face-down in Kadena

[trail anvil]

LGS got the prerelease stuff but didn't notify us still pulled well though

[rigid scarab]

Well I would have made the box if it wasn't gouged

[atomic harness]

Gouging frenzy? holy...

[gritty nest]

my precons still havent shipped

[stark skiff]

huh neat my collector packs from the mystery booster came with a foil Ojer Taq and Foil Anime Defense of the Heart. At least $50 back lol

[atomic harness]

Nice infinite money glitch son

[rigid scarab]

Roping monored player

Always a treat

[stark skiff]

The Commander Masters booster had Smothering Tithe lol

[rigid scarab]

3 days of casually playing ranked, proud of myself :D

[urban crane]

Opened 7 packs duskmourn and traded for orcish

[sleek ferry]

Proud of you kid, now make the grind to diamond

Btw your rank carries across all game modes

So you can get to mythic playing explorer (the least played format) rather easily, as opposed to standard (far and away the most played format) which is a quite bit harder

[rigid scarab]

Thank you my #3 hater

[lusty trench]

I am your number #2 hater, keep it up man you got this

[sudden lava]

https://youtu.be/e-GUEr8KG64 @lusty trench you like valgavoth, here's some Australian Valgavoth

somehow Australian Valgavoth sounds scarier

[lusty trench]

The moth will rise

[sudden lava]

https://tenor.com/view/knife-threat-back-off-scare-butterfly-gif-15816788

Stabby moth ❤️

[trail anvil]

Australia is where valgavoth came from

truly the country of large insects

[stark skiff]

Wow the horror plane is just Australia?

[trail anvil]

totally

[stark skiff]

https://twitter.com/mtgsecretlair/status/1837617869279965571

MTG Secret Lair (@MTGSecretLair) on X

Look to the stars and transcend the unknown with Tome of the Astral Sorceress, part of the Camp Totally Safe Superdrop!

The campground opens September 30 at 9am Pacific, so sign up for notifications at https://t.co/4S2tRpNeqY

Twitter · Sep 21, 2024, 10:20 PM

[sleek ferry]

Makes sense, who do you know willingly goes to Australia instead of New Zealand

[fallow citrus]

oooh I really like these

[trail anvil]

yooo holy shit these styles are fire

I wish one of them was something that isn't back to basics but otherwise this fucks

[sudden lava]

so yeah the enchantment precon has an infinite in it

Secret Arcade makes Ondu an enchantment
Ondu sees itself on enter, makes a copy of Ondu, that Ondu sees itself, repeat till you feel like you have enough 3/3s

[rigid scarab]

Its a 10 mana 2 card combo they can have it

[trail anvil]

they also don't come out hasted so it doesn't win on the spot

[sudden lava]

yeah sadly

[zinc shard]

I think every EDH deck should have at least 1 infinite combo in case games go too long

[rigid scarab]

Games going too long isn't solved by infinites

It's solved by creatures actually attacking

[glad peak]

And people not agreeing to attack because it leaves them open is solved by infinites

So yes infinites or at least an actual win condition that says win the game outside of combat should be in every deck even if you don’t have tutors to look for them

[trail anvil]

nah fuck that, [[thantis the warweaver]] time

[lost widget]

https://scryfall.com/card/c18/46/thantis-the-warweaver

Thantis, the Warweaver <:mana3:292901508771610624><:manab:292901508872273920><:manar:292901508796645397><:manag:292901508654301185>

Legendary Creature — Spider
Vigilance, reach
All creatures attack each combat if able.
Whenever a creature attacks you or a planeswalker you control, put a +1/+1 counter on Thantis, the Warweaver.
She spins a web few can resist. Its sweet aroma sparks chaos in every heart.
5/5

[rigid scarab]

I'm not sure if you have the best juristiction as to how casual edh decks should be built Mr. Anti-EDH

"Every deck should have a way to win the game" =/= "Every deck should be able to do a combo win"

[trail anvil]

this is why goad is a based mechanic and [[spectacular showdown]] is a one is the best cards

[lost widget]

https://scryfall.com/card/mkc/162/spectacular-showdown

Spectacular Showdown <:mana1:292901508373282827><:manar:292901508796645397>

Sorcery
Put a double strike counter on target creature, then goad each creature that had a double strike counter put on it this way. (Until your next turn, those creatures attack each combat if able and attack a player other than you if able.)
Overload (You may cast this spell for its overload cost. If you do, change "target" in its text to "each.")

[glad peak]

I have no qualms with breaking social rules that lead to negative gameplay due to us not being able to control other people’s actions so why not go the route that forces them to go into more combats

Goad is good, anything that makes you a target’s good, infinites are good (because they’re more likely to attack you after they see it)

[sudden lava]

goad is based, I did pick up this goad card recently (you can probably guess why)

[rigid scarab]

I mean yes your saying correct things but not every deck should feel a necessity to have them

Im not gonna harp on a mono green deck for not having a combo win

[trail anvil]

I like monarch and initiative too

[glad peak]

If your group won’t finish games and forces board stalls then you should find alt wins

[trail anvil]

I think that's a valid take tbh

[rigid scarab]

Your "alt win" is summoning a big board of creatures and slamming an overrun

[trail anvil]

but less alt wins and more just accelerators

[rigid scarab]

Infinites aren't the only way to break parity

[glad peak]

And if someone just goes greedier high end and just doesn’t attack?

[rigid scarab]

If they're refusing to close out the game when they are clearly ahead no one's stopping you from simply conceding

If they're massively ahead chances are they would be able to stop your combo anyway

[glad peak]

It’s not the only way to break parity but combo’s the best way to break the cycle of just getting greedier and greedier for no reason

Make people do things because there’s a clear threat and ending time

[rigid scarab]

But you word it as though it's a moral obligation

Like "If your deck can't combo, you're ruining the table by stalling the game"

[sudden lava]

one day I gotta make Baeloth+Noble deck

[rigid scarab]

There are ways to threaten the table without combos

I know your point is "Combos are the best way to do it"

[sudden lava]

[[baeloth]]

[rigid scarab]

But my point is that combos aren't the only way to do it

[lost widget]

https://scryfall.com/card/clb/655/baeloth-barrityl-entertainer

Baeloth Barrityl, Entertainer <:mana4:292901508712890379><:manar:292901508796645397>

Legendary Creature — Elf Shaman
Creatures your opponents control with power less than Baeloth Barrityl's power are goaded. (They attack each combat if able and attack a player other than you if able.)
Whenever a goaded attacking or blocking creature dies, you create a Treasure token.
Choose a Background (You can have a Background as a second commander.)
2/5

[sudden lava]

[[noble heritage]]

[lost widget]

https://scryfall.com/card/clb/35/noble-heritage

Noble Heritage <:mana1:292901508373282827><:manaw:1007102126813610074>

Legendary Enchantment — Background
Commander creatures you own have "When this creature enters and at the beginning of your upkeep, each player may put two +1/+1 counters on a creature they control. For each opponent who does, you gain protection from that player until your next turn." (You can't be targeted, dealt damage, or enchanted by anything controlled by that player.)

[rigid scarab]

If you have a greedy board of guys your opponents are already incentivised to find a way to stop you

With the preface that you aren't being an ass and not swinging for no reason

[glad peak]

Combo would be the way to break the cycle of people just going over the top and getting greedier since essentially what you proposed is to just get greedier than your opponent which isn’t really a solution

[rigid scarab]

"Greedy board" goes beyond just a lot of stats

[trail anvil]

noble heritage has been a blast for me as a card

[rigid scarab]

What if they have an extremely potent removal engine

What if they moulded a hand full of counterspells

A way to break greedy boards is also just not letting your opponent get to that boardstate in the first place

Maybe play some early aggro

Some early removal on their skullclamps or greaves

If you dont want your deck to combo you shouldn't feel bad about it lmao

The only kind of deck you should feel bad about is one you make out of spite to purposefully make players have a miserable experience

Chaos with no wincon for example

[gritty nest]

My friend and I worked on Selesnya tokens together

It’s now dumb

Okay I was given an idea for a card

[[Hair-Strung Koto]]

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https://scryfall.com/card/chk/252/hair-strung-koto

Hair-Strung Koto <:mana6:292901508780130304>

Artifact
Tap an untapped creature you control: Target player mills a card.
"The Kami War drove many members of Konda's court insane. As their spiritual world turned against them, so too did their minds turn from reality." —The History of Kamigawa

[stark skiff]

@atomic harness @meager isle

@sleek ferry

[meager isle]

wow rich man

shame he isn't good 😔

very nice pull tho

(I'm assuming it's a pull)

[stark skiff]

Nah not a fan of this set. Just bought one collector box (nothing good) and gonna just buy singles for the rest. Only a fan of the water overlord and the fire one for the art. Might get the animals though idk.

This the good stuff though

[meager isle]

The animals I think will see a lot of use

[sudden lava]

https://youtu.be/VFjl4pIf9oQ

Plushie Valgavoth

[lusty trench]

Out of one box is crazy man gratz

[golden plover]

Aren't they like 1 in 5 boxes iirc

[lusty trench]

Yeah they’re not common

Usually you just get a textured foil or an extended Japanese art in a box

[stark skiff]

no lol single buy haha

my cb was ass

[lusty trench]

Ahhh

[lusty trench]

Why is valgavoth from the set so expensive card is ass

[twilit canyon]

?

maybe the 2nd best reanimation target of all time

is ass?

[lusty trench]

It's that good? Idk I just don't see it mainly because I like my stuff to do stuff right away

Is it the ward cost that seals it?

[twilit canyon]

and the stax effect

3 nonlands is also basically unkillable t1

2 and 3

[lusty trench]

Oh I see it also shuts off other grave decks

Okay nvm card is spicy I see it

I'm assuming first best reanimation target is like... Griselbrand? Emerakul aeons?

[twilit canyon]

enlighten me on how you reanimate aeons torn

[lusty trench]

I forgot the old eldrazi shuffled in

[twilit canyon]

its atraxa

shes by far and away the best target

[lusty trench]

Oh the new one? It does add a lot of cards and is beeg flyer

[sleek ferry]

The best reanimation target is grief, word me @atomic harness

[twilit canyon]

trolling

[atomic harness]

I miss archon of cruelty

[twilit canyon]

poor jot had to ask about "the new one" when it came to atraxa

ur just gonna confuse jot

[lusty trench]

I usually just reanimate things with etbs like archon or primordial

Dw confusion is my base state

[sleek ferry]

But yeah, I haven’t looked too deep into the new set, from what I saw I’m assuming it should be pretty impactful in standard

Still no wedding announcement replacement…

[lusty trench]

I'm noticing meathook 2 going down... Goooooooood

[twilit canyon]

mistmoors...

caretaker's talent too

[lusty trench]

Someone at my prerelease opened two meathooks, one foil one not

[twilit canyon]

the new overlords are gas

[lusty trench]

I pulled the red one

From my participation

It does read good, the impending cost feels a tad high for it but I can understand why it is

[twilit canyon]

lower the cost and they would be insanely broken

[lusty trench]

It'd be giving phlage parallels if the red one was 3 mana

[twilit canyon]

4 damage + no need to escape to cast