Magic the Gathering

[twilit canyon]

and into phlage

but it does question going all in on it

which is good. card can be too much at 1 for historic

im more surprised there wasnt any unbans or nerfed unbans

[golden plover]

Ocelot for 2 is just an entirely different card

But that Galvanic nerf is nothing right? I dunno what historic looks like rn, but galvanic mostly clears 1-2 toughness guys

[copper pecan]

i guess you get less energy to bank for the guide later?

[golden plover]

Yeah true

[twilit canyon]

it means that galvanic by itself cant kill 3 toughess

[golden plover]

Yeah but how often does that happen in historic?

Because galvanic is almost exclusively killing 1-2 toughness guys in timeless

[trail anvil]

I fucking knew it, this card read way too good to ever be that cheap

I'm so glad I didn't put it in my binder yet

ik golgari is using that for the vraska kill combo but this should also just be everywhere in commander too

[twilit canyon]

extremely relevant

especially vs wizards

they have a 1 mana 0/3 flying that turns into a 3/3

[trail anvil]

I hate that ocelot pride nerf, that's huge in historic brawl for no reason. these formats should not be sharing a nerf list

[sudden lava]

I want them to print this for real

[gritty nest]

I believe it’s real

It’s a playtest card in mystery booster 2

[sudden lava]

Concordia you know what I mean

[copper pecan]

we need tournament legal indicate

[sudden lava]

^ this

[golden plover]

Oh right, why'd they do that to [[Symmetry Sage]]

[lost widget]

https://scryfall.com/card/stx/56/symmetry-sage

Symmetry Sage <:manau:292901508754702338>

Creature — Human Wizard
Flying
Magecraft — Whenever you cast or copy an instant or sorcery spell, target creature you control has base power 2 until end of turn.
"By my calculations, I should be able to achieve true enlightenment before graduation."
0/2

[golden plover]

Fucked up buff

[twilit canyon]

cus this card is shit

but alchemy sage is goated

[gritty nest]

I didn’t, apparently

[trail anvil]

like a constructed legal card

but that would be useless as much of a meme it is

[twilit canyon]

i'd play how to keep an izzet mage busy as that can be infinite storm count

but indicate is pretty worthless

[golden plover]

Triggers Nadu

[sleek ferry]

They should really change historic brawl to timeless brawl

[trail anvil]

it effectively is, they just have the nerfs in there for some godforsaken reason

ik it has buffs too but that's not really relevant

ring and obm are the only cards you can argue even need nerfs in the format, and tbh those are fine enough when you only have to deal with 1

[sudden lava]

As in make a legal copy you can actually play

[glad peak]

You can legally play it

(In that draft)

[gritty nest]

That’s why I said “I didn’t, apparently” lol. Someone else said it before you

[gritty nest]

This

[polar lake]

yeah!

https://www.moxfield.com/decks/4BHkrry3N02CcIihniPTxQ

trying to make 8 racks work in pioneer

[trail anvil]

@sleek ferry jesus christ lizards really do have insane reach

playing vs them with golgari midrange and I thought I stabilized but no they would've killed me if they played it right

I even had someone play ravine raider vs me, idk if that's even great but the amount of menace they had made it so hard to block

[sleek ferry]

The mana base is honestly kinda tricky tbh. You kinda want both fabled passage and the OTJ lands, but you also don’t want to run too many tapped lands, so I’m still finding the sweet spot with that

[[ravine raider]]

[lost widget]

https://scryfall.com/card/blb/106/ravine-raider

Ravine Raider <:manab:292901508872273920>

Creature — Lizard Rogue
Menace (This creature can't be blocked except by two or more creatures.)
: Ravine Raider gets +1/+1 until end of turn.
The path to the Cliff of Heroes is rife with bandits, expertly camouflaged in the dense flora of Valley.
1/1

[sleek ferry]

I mean, maybe if their mana curve is super low, sure

[trail anvil]

I can see that, passage not coming untapped until 4 is a liability but it triggers the landfall one twice

it does curve well with offspring but there are times you want it as a 1 drop

[sleek ferry]

In a perfect world it’s probably:

4 fast lands
4 pain lands
3 caverns
3 passage
2 ping lands
1 surveil
1 man land
1 rockface village
1 mudflat village
2 swamps
2 mountains

[trail anvil]

I'm not sold on the pain lands outside of crime synergy, are you liking the damage to face enough?

[sleek ferry]

You mean the OTJ lands? Yeah they’re good for turning on your thought seize lizard or the impulse draw 1 when you have no good attacks

[trail anvil]

oh right whoops, you do have payoffs for those lol

unrelated but sultai roots seems like a struggle. I understand how this deck is supposed to combo off but it feels like when you don't have roots you're doing absolutely fuckin nothing

[sleek ferry]

Yeah you have to mulligan aggressively if you’re playing a roots deck

Idk if it’s a result of the deck itself or just bad deckbuilding. Part of me feels like you could probably make some sultai good stuff pile that could be decent. Whether that includes roots or not is another story

[trail anvil]

glarb

[trail anvil]

man crokeyz' build of golgari is super good in the mirror but I feel like it's gonna lose out harder to aggro

I've tuned my current build to aggro since I've seen more of it in plat so far but ran into that other build and fell behind quick lol

[[ruthless negotiation]] is really nice in slower matchups but seems absolutely dead in others

[lost widget]

https://scryfall.com/card/blb/108/ruthless-negotiation

Ruthless Negotiation <:manab:292901508872273920>

Sorcery
Target opponent exiles a card from their hand. If this spell was cast from a graveyard, draw a card.
Flashback (You may cast this card from your graveyard for its flashback cost. Then exile it.)
"Next time you come this way, do us both a favor and have something worth stealing, yeah?"

[subtle sierra]

I love this card

Also i started playing

I made some mono black thing that focuses on discarding opp's hand

I'll cope that it's "control"

[trail anvil]

tbh good card pool to choose from for that

[subtle sierra]

Yeah there's the class

The bat

The ixalan god thing

The 3 cost walker

[trail anvil]

cruelclaw's heist is nutso rn too

[subtle sierra]

Etc

Also it uses the 3 drop vampire that creates tokens or draws

And the 2 drop honse

Idr the names

[trail anvil]

[[caustic bronco]] [[preacher of the schism]]

[lost widget]

https://scryfall.com/card/otj/82/caustic-bronco

Caustic Bronco <:mana1:292901508373282827><:manab:292901508872273920>

Creature — Snake Horse Mount
Whenever Caustic Bronco attacks, reveal the top card of your library and put it into your hand. You lose life equal to that card's mana value if Caustic Bronco isn't saddled. Otherwise, each opponent loses that much life.
Saddle 3 (Tap any number of other creatures you control with total power 3 or more: This Mount becomes saddled until end of turn. Saddle only as a sorcery.)
2/2

https://scryfall.com/card/lci/113/preacher-of-the-schism

Preacher of the Schism <:mana2:292901509060886528><:manab:292901508872273920>

Creature — Vampire Cleric
Deathtouch
Whenever Preacher of the Schism attacks the player with the most life or tied for most life, create a 1/1 white Vampire creature token with lifelink.
Whenever Preacher of the Schism attacks while you have the most life or are tied for most life, you draw a card and you lose 1 life.
2/4

[subtle sierra]

Oops didn't see

Anyways I'll cope on this until i get bored

(I will be bored in a week)

[twilit canyon]

aggro doesnt exist in higher ladder

[trail anvil]

he was around plat when he made that video iirc

but if I stop running into aggro then I'll definitely shift into that build

ruthless negotiation being a delayed exile 2 draw 1 is crazy value

I thought that lizards and bats were still prevalent in high elo tho

[subtle sierra]

Yeah, although it's a bit delayed

5 mana is a lot

[twilit canyon]

keep in mind

when we derank

we dont lose our internal mmr

ppl who are in mythic dropping to plat dont start playing vs silver/gold players with frequency still

[trail anvil]

ic

[trail anvil]

[[pawpatch formation]] as a side card is for bats yeah?

[lost widget]

https://scryfall.com/card/blb/186/pawpatch-formation

Pawpatch Formation <:mana1:292901508373282827><:manag:292901508654301185>

Instant
Choose one —
• Destroy target creature with flying.
• Destroy target enchantment.
• Draw a card. Create a Food token. (It's an artifact with ", , Sacrifice this artifact: You gain 3 life.")

[twilit canyon]

can be but [[pick your poison]] is in this rotation

[lost widget]

https://scryfall.com/card/mkm/170/pick-your-poison

Pick Your Poison <:manag:292901508654301185>

Sorcery
Choose one —
• Each opponent sacrifices an artifact.
• Each opponent sacrifices an enchantment.
• Each opponent sacrifices a creature with flying.
A reliable, general-purpose toxin is a handy way to save on belt space.

[trail anvil]

it is, but bats go wide very quickly in my experience. knocking out a deep cavern bat in certain places seems really important in contrast to the artifact flexibility

ig this answers synthesizer better tho

but if you're playing in a less aggro centric meta analyze the pollen into frilled whateveritwas seems better

[twilit canyon]

it can depend yea

gotta also consider how much you respect the match up

[subtle sierra]

Btw are there any other black wipes in standard besides [[malicious eclipse]]?

[lost widget]

https://scryfall.com/card/lci/111/malicious-eclipse

Malicious Eclipse <:mana1:292901508373282827><:manab:292901508872273920><:manab:292901508872273920>

Sorcery
All creatures get -2/-2 until end of turn. If a creature an opponent controls would die this turn, exile it instead.
Aclazotz laughed as the dark shards closed around Chimil, plunging the Core into unnatural darkness. At long last, his bloody reign would begin.

[trail anvil]

you actually picked one of the more niche ones lol

[[deadly cover-up]]

[lost widget]

https://scryfall.com/card/mkm/83/deadly-cover-up

Deadly Cover-Up <:mana3:292901508771610624><:manab:292901508872273920><:manab:292901508872273920>

Sorcery
As an additional cost to cast this spell, you may collect evidence 6.
Destroy all creatures. If evidence was collected, exile a card from an opponent's graveyard. Then search its owner's graveyard, hand, and library for any number of cards with that name and exile them. That player shuffles, then draws a card for each card exiled from their hand this way.

[subtle sierra]

Hmm but this is kinda expensive ig

I'll keep it in mind

[trail anvil]

it depends on how many threats are growing out of the range of -2/-2 ig

for me it's most of them with even monored getting big

[subtle sierra]

I do run 4 cut down and 4 gftt

Note i played like

10 games for now

[fallow citrus]

https://x.com/mtgbanding/status/1820663063931944995?t=zsCeT6QUPBY5gOPwYuTDxA&s=19

Phil Nguyen (@mtgbanding) on X

what is nuts about this "jd vance plays magic" news resurfacing is that i actually found his deck online and dealt a sample hand

Twitter · Aug 6, 2024, 3:27 AM

[waxen timber]

Would be funny if it wasn't 100% a lie

[fallow citrus]

it can still be funny

[golden plover]

https://preview.redd.it/53cpcazvdxgd1.jpeg?auto=webp&s=1f78c6314a812b602dee2ab4fa6be3eb73ce1717

God dammit

Brain Freeze finally gets a modern printing

And it's in the most inaccessible set in the world

[fallow citrus]

that rishadan port is sweet

[golden plover]

Yeah it looks really nice in the frame

Really wish this set was available at LGSes with how good it looks

[rigid scarab]

Could come to be

[golden plover]

Yeah, it's just confusing it's not from the start

I love making this play. Wanna block my cat token? Sure I'll kill it first

[golden plover]

Questing Role wtf

https://preview.redd.it/pgyefcjv72hd1.png?width=183&format=png&auto=webp&s=cff93352e3cfacb1b59d61266e9cdf6415d265ee

Also white border DRC

[fallow citrus]

that city of brass goddamn

[subtle sierra]

i think i might like this card

[sleek ferry]

Actually one of the most annoying cards to vs

You playing it in mono black or Orzhov?

[subtle sierra]

mono black

[sleek ferry]

Yeah, deck is infinitely annoying. If you open any 3 discard cards and then just curve into lily it’s basically gg

[subtle sierra]

which swamp do i get, if i even get the coins

[twilit canyon]

im a huge fan of the red swamp

[fallow citrus]

I do think it's the better one yeah

[golden plover]

Yeah the red swamp is pretty

[atomic harness]

awesome rishadan port

oh and mental misstep

[granite badge]

what decks are shaping up to be the best on arena rn

the 2 decks I was playing (mono red aggro and prowess) half rotated out

doubt its worth to try and salvage

[sleek ferry]

varies greatly depending on bo1 or bo3

[fallow citrus]

https://x.com/mtg_ds/status/1820842701954093434

Magic Data Science (@mtg_ds) on X

Ok, this one is pretty good

Twitter · Aug 6, 2024, 3:21 PM

actually a card I wish we had

[copper pecan]

oh thank god it's just acorn

[granite badge]

wait

phsyical print for alchemy cards?

[copper pecan]

yeah

these aren't tournament legal because they'd be really annoying

[granite badge]

yeah I think it works for a "screw the rules we have injokes" set like mystery booster

[golden plover]

Acorn is really easy to miss on these

But they are acorn marked

Set definitely needs a wide release if Oracle of the Alpha is in it

FUCK OFF

Nexus has needed a regular print forever

And this is the first reprint it gets

[twilit canyon]

good

[golden plover]

Come on, give us a normal printing of Nexus

Just one print that's not foil and in a regular set

[golden plover]

Despite using a foil render, this is non-foil

Which is even more annoying since Nexus has needed a regular print forever and now the only non-foil nexus is in fomo product

New Urza art

[glad peak]

Liking that art better than the mh1 one

[zinc shard]

Future Sight in the Future Sight frame

[fallow citrus]

how meta

[fallow citrus]

https://x.com/StarCityBen/status/1820875883739000901?t=W3RhmzXR_w80tx_56Op28Q&s=19

Ben Bleiweiss (@StarCityBen) on X

HERE IS IT!

Brainstorm in the Future Sight frame with the Mercadian Masques artwork is in #MTG Mystery Booster 2!

Twitter · Aug 6, 2024, 5:33 PM

[gritty nest]

Stonks?

[glad peak]

They really just released the best masters set ever and it’s locked behind conventions shake my smh my head

[golden plover]

Yeah it's kinda crazy how good this set is

And equally insane how dumb it is that you can't just get it at an LGS

This happened with the first one too, did they not realize that this would very obviously happen again

[trail anvil]

monored is still fine, but people are splashing a bit of black for [[callous sell-sword]]

[lost widget]

https://scryfall.com/card/woe/221/callous-sell-sword-burn-together

Callous Sell-Sword <:mana1:292901508373282827><:manab:292901508872273920>

Creature — Human Soldier
Callous Sell-Sword enters with a +1/+1 counter on it for each creature that died under your control this turn.
2/2

Burn Together
Sorcery — Adventure
Target creature you control deals damage equal to its power to any other target. Then sacrifice it.

[trail anvil]

I'm sure you could make monored work perfectly fine tho

[granite badge]

hrmm

got any lists for me to netdeck?

[fallow citrus]

https://www.mtggoldfish.com/deck/6558102#paper

[trail anvil]

https://mtgazone.com/user-decks/m4dubg2mm3yhjlnkpun7/

[sleek ferry]

you don't have to splash black, you just use it for its adventure mode

guarantees you lethal on t3

[trail anvil]

you don't have to, but from the games I've played I think you're at a solid disadvantage not doing it

especially because if you're not running aggro in bo1 then you're running a million removal spells to address all the aggro

[sleek ferry]

ngl, I've never seen anybody actually play the creature part

maybe ever

[trail anvil]

really? I've seen it many times because I'm the one running the million removal spells lol

[sleek ferry]

yeah, the day I see it, I'll screenshot it

[granite badge]

ty I'll take a look when I get home

[granite badge]

wow i'm only 3 rare wildcards away

[sudden lava]

Out of context DeckedoutEDH

[twilit canyon]

ah i see grand wizards

[sudden lava]

https://youtu.be/fLY8zEwPu64 the episode btw

[twilit canyon]

deckout platforming the kkk i see

[sudden lava]

Ezio cosplay at home

literally just a hoodie

[clever sun]

About as much effort that this set took

[sleek ferry]

Come on now Marisol, the deck had some effort put in

It’s just terrible

There’s potentially some cute Yuriko stuff down the road

[sudden lava]

Unless the Naoie+Yasuke SL makes them off colors for Yuriko

[clever sun]

It won't matter what they add I'm not respecting the Ass Creed shit

This one is definitely a lair and set that I just don't see any purpose for

Who the fuck even likes AC anymore?

[granite badge]

I legit have 0 idea what AC even is about

[clever sun]

No one really does anymore

[golden plover]

Tbh like half the UB sets are like 3 years past their prime

[granite badge]

all the cards read wild w/o any context

[sudden lava]

Shadows combat looks good but eh

[granite badge]

(from a flavor perpsective)

[golden plover]

Stranger Things came out between seasons, Jurassic Park came out after World ended, Walking Dead came out like 5 years too late

[clever sun]

I liked TWD back when it was good even

[golden plover]

Others like LoTR and fallout come out very obviously around the same time as their new show

[sudden lava]

Some group of Assassins use a machine to relive the past and find some kind of relics I think

[clever sun]

I didn't mind those lairs because at least you can tie them to a set or recent release

[golden plover]

But like... Assassin's Creed feels like a set that was like 4 years too late

[clever sun]

Easily eight

Whenever the pirate game came out

[golden plover]

I mean, when did viking game come out?

[clever sun]

Was the last time it was relevant

[golden plover]

Because that was the most recent

Odyssey was at least sorta popular

It completely changed what the games were and wasn't an assassin's creed game at all

[lusty trench]

Err vigilantes rebelling against the fascist church who have a shadow government over the world

[golden plover]

But it was at least talked about as being a standard Ubisoft 6/10

[clever sun]

Ubisoft 6/10s don't feel to be as good as a 6/10 because of how many there are and how good other games are nowdays

So even worse

[golden plover]

Also I still think it's funny that Crusade is banned for real world political reasons, but [[Knight Templar]] is totally okay because it's UB

[lost widget]

https://scryfall.com/card/moc/192/knight-exemplar

Knight Exemplar <:mana1:292901508373282827><:manaw:1007102126813610074><:manaw:1007102126813610074>

Creature — Human Knight
First strike (This creature deals combat damage before creatures without first strike.)
Other Knight creatures you control get +1/+1 and have indestructible. (Damage and effects that say "destroy" don't destroy them.)
"If you think you are brave enough to walk the path of honor, follow me into the dragon's den."
2/2

[sudden lava]

Next game got samurai and ninjas

[golden plover]

Yeah there's really no reason to play a Ubisoft 6/10 when there's plenty of 8-9-10/10 games worth playing

[clever sun]

Elden Ring/From Soft lair when?

We know Miyazaki is an MtG fan

[golden plover]

Oh god @lusty trench I just had an incredibly cursed vision

[clever sun]

Surely it'll happen

[golden plover]

Speaking of UB and being 3 years late

Whenever the space set comes out, UB Futurama

[clever sun]

Nah

The obvious tie in is Star Wars

[lusty trench]

Perfect time would've been unfinity

[golden plover]

Gotta advertise the shitty new Hulu seasons

[clever sun]

There is ZERO chance they miss out on Star Wars

[lusty trench]

Iirc star trek had some card formatting stuff leaked

[golden plover]

The issue is star wars just had a TCG release

[clever sun]

They'll reference Futurama in the cards themselves

[golden plover]

There's a brand new star wars TCG

0 chance we get a SL or UB while that exists

[clever sun]

A brand new Brand New Star Wars TCG that's gonna fail in the next year?

[golden plover]

But it's fine, the star wars TCG will die in like 2 years anyways

[lusty trench]

This was leaked by the same person who leaked the poker cards formatting

[golden plover]

This feels too busy

It's probably a real secret lair then

[lusty trench]

Has a real baseball card feel to it

Or top trumps

[sudden lava]

Wait what's the next UB again?

could've sworn we know about the next one

[lusty trench]

DND

So far it's new arts for the baulders gate protags

[golden plover]

Then final fantasy

Which again, feels like 3 years too late lmao

[lusty trench]

Holy shit that is getting closer huh

[golden plover]

And Marvel

Which is also like 3 years too late

[sudden lava]

Ah right Final Fantasy next one then Marvel, ty griswold

[golden plover]

Marvel is either gonna be the first set to sell a Brazilian packs or to sell negative packs

[lusty trench]

Deadpool and wolverine just happened where they openly admitted the stuff after endgame sucked

[clever sun]

Depends on the Dr. Doom reception

[lusty trench]

So it's gonna be anyone's guess if it can keep the hype

[clever sun]

Yeah but Deadpool and Wolverine also kinda sucked so...

[lusty trench]

I enjoyed it for what it was

[clever sun]

It was fun but the villain made no sense

[sudden lava]

Gee I wonder what color he will be in the set/commander decks

[lusty trench]

Eh they're not really the focus and served their purposes imo

Dear lord what is this gif

[clever sun]

Looks AI

Please do not post AI

[sudden lava]

it was just a gif from tenor

[golden plover]

I know it's super obvious but him being Jeskai is gonna be boring as hell

[clever sun]

He'd be Mono-White

[golden plover]

At least for the AC Americans they didn't just make them Jeskai for no reason

[lusty trench]

I honestly don't see much blue in cap

[golden plover]

He's Boros at best ngl

[lusty trench]

Boros maybe

[clever sun]

Meh

[lusty trench]

Stark is like epitome of blue

[clever sun]

616 Cap is 100% mono White

[clever sun]

Nah

[golden plover]

Stark is Izzet because haha easy

[clever sun]

Iron Man is Grixis

[sudden lava]

https://tenor.com/view/the-avengers-marvel-chris-evans-steve-rogers-captain-america-gif-17828532

better gif

[lusty trench]

I can see both of those too, I'm just saying he's definitely gonna be blue

[clever sun]

Yeah

That's obvious

He's a genius

He fits the Blue bill to a T

[sudden lava]

Iron Man is gonna make treasure and do stuff with artifacts

[lusty trench]

Thor is white but I'm not sure what else, green maybe?

[clever sun]

Thor is not white

Thor is Red/Green maybe blue

[sudden lava]

Hulk is Gruul

[lusty trench]

Idk current Thor seems to be white to me, hulk is gruul

[clever sun]

MtG Thor is Mono Red

[golden plover]

Thor is Gruul or Naya

[clever sun]

616 Thor is way too R/G

He has very little white in him

maybe Godslayer Thor

Is White

[sleek ferry]

Lotr UB was timeless, hence why it was a huge hit. FF UB will probably be just as big as the Lotr one if not slightly less so

[golden plover]

Remember tho, they have to be the most marketable version of the characters

We're not gonna get nuance for any of the marvel ones

[clever sun]

MCU Thor is Temur then

[sleek ferry]

As long as they include my boys Vivi and Zidane, I’ll have 0 issues with the FF UB

[clever sun]

If we are going with no nuance pure MCU

[golden plover]

It's iconic costume, easiest color pair

So Jeskai Cap, Izzet Stark, Naya/Temur Thor?

[clever sun]

Cap: Boros
Iron Man: Grixis
Thor: Temur
Hulk: Gruul

[golden plover]

Also depends on who helms what commander decks

[clever sun]

Spider-Man: Jeskai

[golden plover]

Because they'll probably make the villain Grixis

[lusty trench]

Spidey is getting a deck, as is stark, thanos too, and last one no clue

[clever sun]

Thanos is too easy to put as 5c

[golden plover]

And that'll probably be either Grixis Doom, 5c Thanos, or like... Esper Ultron?

[clever sun]

Ultron is Esper

Yep

Dr. Doom is not Grixis

He's WUBRG

[golden plover]

Ultron is also probably not gonna get a card if it's movies

Since they ruined him there

[sudden lava]

Spider-Man make web counters?

[sleek ferry]

I don’t see the Marvel UB being as big as the Lotr or FF one tbh

[golden plover]

Yeah I can't see the marvel UB doing great ngl

[clever sun]

Meh I've come around a bit more on MCU Ultron

[golden plover]

I think it'll be fine, but not great

[lusty trench]

Nah he's getting one, they've already brought him back for the what if series

[clever sun]

He should have had more films

But the core had potential

[sudden lava]

Also I hope for the Marvel and Final Fantasy ones they go back to precons

[clever sun]

Also it's Secret Wars Doom

So 100% WUBRG

[lusty trench]

Ultron connecting to the internet and saying "Ayo you people are ungovernable" was wild

[clever sun]

I feel this way when I log into this Discord

[lusty trench]

I'm trying to think of who the fourth deck would be

Cap would be a boring but easy pick

[sleek ferry]

Sigh, your sister hasn’t met a person she can’t govern

[golden plover]

Cap makes the most sense, and I feel like they'd do it for the whole "civil war" bit

[clever sun]

Fuck you. Cap isn't boring. /hj

[sudden lava]

booster fun stuff can go into collector boosters, just give a couple of precons

[lusty trench]

Doom is a choice but I think the sets been in development too long for him

[clever sun]

Doom 100% deserves it

[sleek ferry]

Cap is super boring, he’s Marvel Superman basically

[golden plover]

Doom will get a one-off card in one of the precons that doesn't fit

[sudden lava]

Also if they split it up into commander precons, who we thinking for the faces?

[clever sun]

She's still a kid. Who is she governing smh

[clever sun]

I may ban for this.

[lusty trench]

Plus a deck around him would be rough considering hes very much a superiority complex on legs

[golden plover]

He'll be an alt commander in the Tony Precon and he'll do something with experience counters

[clever sun]

Cap and Supes are not boring at all

[lusty trench]

TWO EXTREMELY LOUD INCORRECT BUZZERS

A cap deck would be boring

[twilit canyon]

ya on your own for this one thugs

[golden plover]

Maybe the 4th deck will be Mardu "Hydra" and it's just a loose assortment of random villains?

[twilit canyon]

gl

[lusty trench]

Both as characters though are paragons of what humanity should try to be

[golden plover]

2 Hero Precons, 2 villains?

[clever sun]

That's not even their best parts

[sleek ferry]

I find Cap, Superman and Batman (except Batman beyond Batman) all extremely boring

[golden plover]

But the issue is who would helm Mardu Hydra

Zemo sucks. Red Skull was barely in the MCU

[clever sun]

Cap often has to deal with the real effects of patriotism and the horrible effects it can have on the pysche and what really matters between the country or the people

[golden plover]

The obvious answer is Taskmaster, but also they ruined him

[sudden lava]

Iron Man precon

and its voltron

[lusty trench]

It's Spidey stark and thanos for sure but that 4th is likely just whatever they want to market

[clever sun]

Superman is almost always interesting to read because it's a true lesson in humanity

[golden plover]

Oh you know all the precons are gonna be unfocused as hell too

[clever sun]

He's a legit simple man. But he still knows the weight of his sins and his strength

[golden plover]

They're gonna want as many possible commanders they can fit in there

So they're all gonna do like 12 things

[clever sun]

It'll be two WUBRG Commanders. The heroes vs villains.

[lusty trench]

Named Avengers assemble and... I'll do it myself?

[clever sun]

Also on Batman, he's actually often written pretty shit.

[lusty trench]

Maybe just rogue gallery?

[clever sun]

The core of Batman is interesting in theory but a ton of writers are not as clever as he should be so

They can end up having some super shit runs.

[lusty trench]

I still remember the video I saw on that one really good riddler comic where it's a choose your own adventure game

And the only way to win it is to not play the game, and read it like a normal comic

[clever sun]

That's a Riddler thing not necessarily Batman

[lusty trench]

Fair, just something I remembered

[clever sun]

But Batman's popularity is often boosted by his rogues gallery

Joker, Harley, Riddler, Bane

Also the Bat Family is often way more interesting than Batman himself because a lot of writers just never do him justice.

But I will always defend Cap and Supes

They are rarely given boring writers and their characters are way more interesting than given credit for thanks to the recent movies with them.

[golden plover]

I think Batman's year 0-2 stuff is really good

Long Halloween is one of the best Batman stories by far

[clever sun]

Long Halloween is great

Year 0-2 is pretty good

There are a lot of good Batman

But there is also a load of crap

[golden plover]

I'm glad The Batman was Year 1 stuff

I'm hoping that storyline for him stays grounded and stays in the year 1-2 area

[clever sun]

Same

I was super surprised at how much I liked Robert's Batman too

It was a fantastic casting choice

[golden plover]

He's very good in the role

He's genuinely a great actor

[clever sun]

He only needs to work a bit more on his Bruce Wayne

[golden plover]

Yeah true

[clever sun]

But, this is Year 0-2 stuff so. He has a bit of time.

I don't expect the Bruce persona to shine as much and the movie still did an excellent job at making the Bruce mask feel different

[lusty trench]

Is this about the latest batman film? I still need to see it is it any good

[clever sun]

Imo the best Batman movie

One of the best superhero movies ever.

Top three for sure.

[lusty trench]

Damn I'm gonna watch it when I get home then

For me my top 3 superhero films are like: spider verse 1, spider verse 2 (part 2 might change this) and then like... Guardians 1? Idk it's a hard choice for third cause the first two top the rest easily

[waxen timber]

Iron man 1 is my favorite followed by Black Adam and The Dark Knight Rises

Iron Man is a movie that ages extremely well

[golden plover]

Does Birdman count?

Because mine are Birdman, The Batman, and Spiderverse

[rigid scarab]

Narrowing it to just 3 is actually pretty hard

Guardians 3, Spiderverse 2, Dark Knight

Shoutout to Spiderverse 1 for breaking me out of my cinemasins phase

And actually start seriously thinking when watching movies and not just looking for nitpicks to make fun of

[granite badge]

I can't say I watch many if any MCU movies but I have been brainrotting over injustice clips and I really like how batman is portrayed in injustice

(if that counts, idk how this shit works)

[rigid scarab]

Well it could be superhero movies

Just in general

Hell fucking Brightburn could count as a superhero movie

[waxen timber]

Though I would think less of anyone who said that was their favorite superhero movie

[stark skiff]

The Incredibles is the best Fantastic Four movie. GOAT shit

[trail anvil]

incredibles is timeless as a movie. the sequel could never match up but it was also a very fun watch tbh

[rigid scarab]

It's not as bad as some people make it out to be

But I still found it pretty mediocre

I especially didn't like the regression that most of the cast had

[stark skiff]

Mask of the Phantasm best superhero movie

[trail anvil]

man actually building seizan for brawl, this is just a worse sheoldred lmao

that said its art is too cool and it pairs me against not hell queue

[gritty nest]

Since it’s my birthday can I get a free turn 1 sol ring signet without getting hate

[zinc shard]

Many thanks

[subtle sierra]

uhh what was the gold amount you get for the 15 daily wins?

idr the sum of it

wanna check if i can get the red swamp in time

[twilit canyon]

first like

[subtle sierra]

i can make it

[twilit canyon]

4 wins are

i think about 800-900

[subtle sierra]

oh that much?

cause the quest is 500 or 750

[twilit canyon]

let me double check

[subtle sierra]

i need 1450 gold

[twilit canyon]

oh im accidentally counting the daily quest

[subtle sierra]

sadge

then i can't get it

[twilit canyon]

yeah it'd be like

at most 1250 including the daily quest

[subtle sierra]

we'll get better lands tomorrow

[twilit canyon]

everything past that is 25 iirc

[subtle sierra]

wait i am engaging cope

like i literally need to get a 750 gold quest lol

tho

[twilit canyon]

yeah

sounds about right

[subtle sierra]

time to handloop ppl to death

(in 30 minutes)

[subtle sierra]

i'm screwed

[zinc shard]

I can share my squirrel deck i made for Bloomburrow Constructed

[sleek ferry]

https://x.com/starcityben/status/1820879135729762608?s=46&t=DdUsqNPs-c3IFDRYOhiq8A

Ben Bleiweiss (@StarCityBen) on X

Glimpse, the Unthinkable is a Playtest card that is going to cause nightmares for our Product Creation team and is in #MTG Mystery Booster 2!

Twitter · Aug 6, 2024, 5:46 PM

[trail anvil]

did you reroll?

[subtle sierra]

Yes

[trail anvil]

f

[golden plover]

Oh cool we're short printing cards now

https://preview.redd.it/cls4ulnsa4hd1.jpeg?auto=webp&s=291b03332feaba8fe016f16623c3c689c402b298

This Urza is only available foil

Foils are 1ish per box

So this Urza is about 1 in 120 boxes

[sleek ferry]

https://x.com/thejesguy/status/1821144968603271450?s=46&t=DdUsqNPs-c3IFDRYOhiq8A

Angelo, Lord of Innistrad (@thejesguy) on X

If Naturalize was so good, why didn’t they make-

O-oh no

Twitter · Aug 7, 2024, 11:22 AM

[trail anvil]

fuck an initiative

I'm sure in actuality that would be terrible tho lmao

[golden plover]

I mean, it's a straight upgrade to Naturalize ig

[copper pecan]

there's already one of those though

[[wilt]]

[lost widget]

https://scryfall.com/card/iko/176/wilt

Wilt <:mana1:292901508373282827><:manag:292901508654301185>

Instant
Destroy target artifact or enchantment.
Cycling (, Discard this card: Draw a card.)
Nothing returns from the nightmare nests of Indatha unscathed.

[copper pecan]

wow fuck couches

[sleek ferry]

https://youtu.be/fi_0G6YEBJo?si=jIu8hdmU6om8G1y0

Zoraline is strong, more news at 12

[gritty nest]

I just learned about these

[glad peak]

Huh Vance went 9-2-1 in Swiss? Pretty good

Oh wait that starts round 3, probably 12-2-1 then

[golden plover]

https://www.mtggoldfish.com/deck/1151653#paper

Here's his list

[golden plover]

You think he plays [[Anje, Maid of Dishonor]] in EDH?

[lost widget]

https://scryfall.com/card/vow/231/anje-maid-of-dishonor

Anje, Maid of Dishonor <:mana2:292901509060886528><:manab:292901508872273920><:manar:292901508796645397>

Legendary Creature — Vampire
Whenever Anje, Maid of Dishonor and/or one or more other Vampires you control enter, create a Blood token. This ability triggers only once each turn. (It's an artifact with ", , Discard a card, Sacrifice this artifact: Draw a card.")
, Sacrifice another creature or a Blood token: Each opponent loses 2 life and you gain 2 life.
4/5

[sudden lava]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Njr6X-XG6q4

[subtle sierra]

i didn't get the red swamp but i got this

not too bad for day 2 with a shit deck

[glad peak]

Why anje?

[golden plover]

The couch in the background

[twilit canyon]

theres a woman on it so no

[fallow citrus]

https://x.com/splintertwink/status/1821173480584270176?t=0qG7qIqiTz4clRXG-1mSKw&s=19

Splinter Twink (@splintertwink) on X

How mono red players look at you on your turn

Twitter · Aug 7, 2024, 1:16 PM

[golden plover]

https://fixupx.com/w5vvkweg74yjssh/status/1820713234049147241?s=46&t=byGe0dhHv-krRTaPKz-sgA

They finally banned Nadu

[trail anvil]

well we did know nadu is toxic

[twilit canyon]

nadu only has flying as a keyword actually

[trail anvil]

lategame monored mood

[trail anvil]

boo

[sleek ferry]

Imagine the amount of effort it takes to get banned for content

Kids these days have too much time

[golden plover]

You can probably just speedrun it by like saying slurs or whatever

Not the most ethical ig

[sleek ferry]

Still too much effort

[trail anvil]

everyone knows the best response to mana screw is death threats to your opponent /j

[golden plover]

It probably only takes like 10 seconds to join a game and spam slurs until you're banned

[hidden ermine]

Actual me-tier pun smh

[sleek ferry]

Oh I BM on mtga hard

You god hand me? I’m making sure you wait the entire timer to get that win

[copper pecan]

don't waste peoples' time like that

[golden plover]

The only times I BM are when people are roping

So probably against thugs lmao

If you take too long to interact I spam "Your Go" but thats it

[gritty nest]

what does roping mean?

[twilit canyon]

im extremely disrespectful to some ppl on the ladder cus ik they tilt and they dont mute me so i take my free w

[sleek ferry]

Making people wait the entire timer on mtga to get their win

[trail anvil]

whenever someone ropes me I just say "oops" then start watching a youtube video

[gritty nest]

how long does that timer run for

[sleek ferry]

There’s a landfall deck to be made in standard, I just got to figure out the correct ratios

[twilit canyon]

not with that merfolk

crokeyz already brewed it

its decent

hes using the plot spell that sacks permanents to draw to put every land in there and then use the new bear legend and the 2 drop that brings lands back to one shot ppl with lizards

[golden plover]

You start with a minute, then every 3 turns without seeing your timer adds 30 seconds

You can theoretically run it up for quite some time roping, which sucks

I think the time is halved every time you hit timer limit too

[sleek ferry]

Yeah the bear and lizard combo I figured, I’ll look into the plot spell

[[pitiless carnage]] ?

[lost widget]

https://scryfall.com/card/otj/98/pitiless-carnage

Pitiless Carnage <:mana3:292901508771610624><:manab:292901508872273920>

Sorcery
Sacrifice any number of permanents you control, then draw that many cards.
Plot (You may pay and exile this card from your hand. Cast it as a sorcery on a later turn without paying its mana cost. Plot only as a sorcery.)
Akul saw his Hellspur followers as little more than ammunition to be expended.

[twilit canyon]

yeah this is it

[sleek ferry]

I’m assuming he’s also playing Sheoldred yeah?

[twilit canyon]

no

he did it as pure combo

with nissa to tutor the elemental bear

[sleek ferry]

Oh right the bear is an elemental

I missed that

[trail anvil]

it seems fun but definitely notably worse than just midrange

[sleek ferry]

I mean, sure, but green is extremely annoying to deal with. The armadillo for example is a big body late with reach, that stabilizes you vs aggro early + gets you a land

If They ever waste removal on your lizards you feel like a king

[[spinewoods armadillo]]

[lost widget]

https://scryfall.com/card/otj/182/spinewoods-armadillo

Spinewoods Armadillo <:mana4:292901508712890379><:manag:292901508654301185><:manag:292901508654301185>

Creature — Armadillo
Reach
Ward (Whenever this creature becomes the target of a spell or ability an opponent controls, counter it unless that player pays .)
, Discard Spinewoods Armadillo: Search your library for a basic land card or a Desert card, reveal it, put it into your hand, then shuffle. You gain 3 life.
7/7

[sleek ferry]

Actual goated card right now

[glad peak]

Oh hey, pretty good reanimate target

[sleek ferry]

That was going to be my 2nd point, it’s like the worst thing you can reanimate with squirm, which isn’t even bad

6/6 ward 3 on turn 4 is most likely not getting outed

[fallow citrus]

top 10 saddest anime deaths

https://x.com/IamActuallyLvL1/status/1821320283963134171?t=sy3Uj7vzI20Nw5L0_7Eg_g&s=19

Justin 'IamActuallyLvL1' Gennari (@IamActuallyLvL1) on X

Twitter · Aug 7, 2024, 10:59 PM

[trail anvil]

lmao

[golden plover]

OH GET FUCKED

SUCKS TO FUCKING SUCK

[hidden ermine]

[[Static Prison]]

[lost widget]

https://scryfall.com/card/mh3/44/static-prison

Static Prison <:manaw:1007102126813610074>

Enchantment
When Static Prison enters, exile target nonland permanent an opponent controls until Static Prison leaves the battlefield. You get (two energy counters).
At the beginning of your first main phase, sacrifice Static Prison unless you pay .

[twilit canyon]

i love that because i respond with borne upon a wind and win anyways

rendering the deck dead dead

[golden plover]

I just think it's funny to take their omniscience

Because FUCK Show and Tell

[twilit canyon]

yeah and its extra nice to punish ppl who build the deck wrong too

[golden plover]

Honestly I just hate how uninteractive it is

They either get their combo and gg or they don't and they lose

Super unfun to play against

[twilit canyon]

thats always been the case for show and tell

[golden plover]

Yeah and it's really unfun to play against because of that

[twilit canyon]

thats just a feature of non-rotating formats

[golden plover]

If I wanted to play against "better have it or you lose" decks, I'd be playing yugioh

[twilit canyon]

yeah maybe legacy/timeless/vintage just arent formats for you

[golden plover]

I mean, I like a lot of the decks in the format. Show and Tell being an exception

Well that and the evoke elementals but they're sorta just a bad design and fury and grief feel awful to play against

[twilit canyon]

you're gonna hate breach combo decks that are just as linear

or thoracle combos

[golden plover]

I mean, I've played with and against both in cedh

There's more room for interaction sometimes

[twilit canyon]

not in 60 card

[atomic harness]

free fury btw even tho it wont solve anything I just miss it

[sleek ferry]

This could be you, but you’re playing games

[atomic harness]

Little thugs I dont want to play commander or do heroin

[stark skiff]

wow why not

both are fun

[sleek ferry]

Ren used to have so much fun on commander nights smh

[gritty nest]

What do you guys think of silver bordered commanders? 100% will not play against or “discuss with the group first” ordeal?

[broken fjord]

Depends. I'm up for it so long as their mechanics aren't too out there

Brother is building Grusilda, Monster Masher as an example.

[gritty nest]

I was looking at the unfinity card list

And I have 2 rules

1. Must me multicolored (personal preference, the Myra’s marvels count cuz partner, but they can only partner between themselves
2. No dexterity things (like throwing Devil k Nevil) or attractions/stickers

Sound fair you think?

[twilit canyon]

idc bring whatever

[gritty nest]

I’ll bring [[Solaflora]]

[lost widget]

https://scryfall.com/card/unf/27/solaflora-intergalactic-icon

Solaflora, Intergalactic Icon <:mana3:292901508771610624><:manaw:1007102126813610074><:manaw:1007102126813610074>

Legendary Creature — Human Guest
Auras and Equipment you control attached to Solaflora, Intergalactic Icon affect other creatures you control as though those Auras and Equipment were attached to them.
Counters and stickers on Solaflora affect other creatures you control as though those counters and stickers were on them.
3/3

[trail anvil]

wait I'm trying to figure out why she is acorn

like stickers were a very un- mechanic but mind goblin wasn't acorn

[gritty nest]

I’ll equip her with colossus hammer

all my creatures now have colossus hammer equipped

[trail anvil]

I'd wanna rock discord from MLP

true chaos

[gritty nest]

Nah

Like yes chaos

But

Applejack

Get banned from your LGS

[trail anvil]

lmao pull out the most random objects you can think of to animate with them

[gritty nest]

Can I dm you what I was thinking

[trail anvil]

I'm pretty sure I know what you were thinking if you'd have to dm me

[gritty nest]

Okay fair

I was thinking of pairing 2 of the Myra’s marvels together but unsure which 2

I was thinking the Nocturno and Katerina and doing orzhov tokens

[sudden lava]

Depends on the commander

[sudden lava]

https://youtu.be/_9RCNSvigUI

[sudden lava]

https://youtu.be/QYe3hqeYm9U

[glad peak]

Always attack the person doing the worst

[sudden lava]

https://tenor.com/view/ill-allow-it-ken-jeong-korean-mexican-hat-gif-5187167

[gritty nest]

What do you think of the orzhov idea, or should I try out a different Myra’s marvel like Ignacio

[granite badge]

lila sounds pretty funny ngl

pauper commander helmed by a mythic

[gritty nest]

I get that, my only issue is I wouldn’t be building for pauper so I don’t want to cheese it like “oh this broken $50 prophecy card was common but now rare so it’s allowed”

[granite badge]

i think "name begins with" might lead to some semantical arguments but overall should be fine

[gritty nest]

Ignacio says choose like 1 of 10~ or so items, if it appears in the art of the thing you cast create two treasures

[golden plover]

I mean, I think it'd be funny to drop Lotus Petal and Rhystic Study and stuff and go "Yeah these are commons"

Unfortunately Rhystic isn't in her colors

There's all of 15 pauper mythics

[[Fyndhorn Elves]] being the only one in her colors

[lost widget]

https://scryfall.com/card/cmr/228/fyndhorn-elves

Fyndhorn Elves <:manag:292901508654301185>

Creature — Elf Druid
: Add .
"We could no more abandon the forest than the stars could abandon the night sky."
1/1

[lusty trench]

Good ol' from the vault 20

[golden plover]

Rhystic Study is my favorite mythic common tho

It's pauper legal, but you absolutely would not play it in pauper

[gritty nest]

I wonder why fyndhorn isn’t common anymore?

[golden plover]

It is, it just received a mythic printing once

[gritty nest]

Oh

[golden plover]

Wait it'd be really funny to flex with a [[Hunting Cheetah]]

[lost widget]

https://scryfall.com/card/me3/124/hunting-cheetah

Hunting Cheetah <:mana2:292901509060886528><:manag:292901508654301185>

Creature — Cat
Whenever Hunting Cheetah deals damage to an opponent, you may search your library for a Forest card, reveal that card, put it into your hand, then shuffle.
2/3

[golden plover]

DOGSHIT card

But it's a $70 common and the most expensive single non-treatment card in pauper

[gritty nest]

These are the other 3 Myra’s marvels btw. I could do Fluros and Ignacio together, or Ignacio + Katerina

[golden plover]

Which is the one that technically works in black border?

It's Katerina, right?

Because stuff like Mind Goblin was legal

[sleek ferry]

Completely calculated

[gritty nest]

Katerina cares about the first letter the card starts with, technically still acorn. But I’m going to avoid stickers/attractions

[copper pecan]

mind goblin only cares about the sticker and the stickers are always in english

[subtle sierra]

international cat day today

[lusty trench]

I believe it's fluros

[golden plover]

Oh right, it was Fluros

[sleek ferry]

Cauldron Familiar is the GOAT kitty

[twilit canyon]

actually the most powerful cat on this list

[golden plover]

Wish they'd give us Ajani's alt art somewhere like here but I guess not

[gritty nest]

Why would they give us nice things

Before I forget, which sounds more fun in your guys opinion

Katerina + Nocturno
Katerina + Ignacio
Ignacio + Fluros

[twilit canyon]

this all sounds kind of ass

[gritty nest]

You sound kind of ass

[subtle sierra]

[twilit canyon]

my ass is massive actually

its not kind of

[trail anvil]

katerina nocturno prolly

[trail anvil]

yeah I can see why you'd want that 😏

[gritty nest]

Pics or no proof?

[gritty nest]

Fair. Orzhov tokens you think or?

[trail anvil]

I mean it's tokens by default with katerina lol

[twilit canyon]

you arent actually asking this right?

[golden plover]

Did you see that they actually told Ilse Gort to go with the upskirt shot?

It wasn't planned for him but they asked her for the angle

[trail anvil]

they aren't stupid

they know why the set's gonna sell

[golden plover]

True. They know people wanna fuck Ajani

[trail anvil]

I traded a new emrakul and war liliana for one of those, should've held onto it

[golden plover]

Card is like $50 now

Emrakul is only like $30 at best

[gritty nest]

No

I just say whatever is the funniest and first to come to mind

[gritty nest]

Okay fair, same with Ignacio

Ignacio Katerina is go wide while Nocturno Katerina is aristocrat tokens

[trail anvil]

I'm seeing 46 but either way there was a gap but he insisted upon the trade

I might've traded one more card, don't remember entirely

oh yeah this was my board state yesterday at commander night

at the bottom near my life counter is my hand

I have since added tooth and nail and craterhoof

mirage mirror is copying mana reflection

[zinc shard]

I love this

[trail anvil]

that looks busted lol

well not busted but crazy with effects that have really good stuff at nat 20

[golden plover]

https://preview.redd.it/z3m8341ebhhd1.png?width=470&format=png&auto=webp&s=65b4c80164e8c5954a72967c6ae9b234d4dc1fe4

Oh

Will feel like shit in the future sight slot, but neat

https://preview.redd.it/m6kzkzuebhhd1.png?width=465&format=png&auto=webp&s=ccbd96517ee79db06600e7f853b32921950691d2

First time in paper with this art

[subtle sierra]

so i encountered some weird doppelgang deck

with deserts

is that viable?

[trail anvil]

there's some decent desert stuff, but more than likely it was a pet deck

[subtle sierra]

also saw some azorius that used [[caretaker's talent]] as a win con

[lost widget]

https://scryfall.com/card/blb/6/caretakers-talent

Caretaker's Talent <:mana2:292901509060886528><:manaw:1007102126813610074>

Enchantment — Class
(Gain the next level as a sorcery to add its ability.)
Whenever one or more tokens you control enter, draw a card. This ability triggers only once each turn.
: Level 2
When this Class becomes level 2, create a token that's a copy of target token you control.
: Level 3
Creature tokens you control get +2/+2.

[subtle sierra]

that was funny

you have the fountain land to make a fish

[trail anvil]

was it monowhite?

I saw crokeyz testing a monowhite token deck with this and it almost pilled me on kayla's command

[lusty trench]

Went against innkeepers talent in arena draft

Dear god it’s criminal

[gritty nest]

On my way to deck out the entire table

Not deck out but whatever, drain the entire table

Also @trail anvil Lila flavor text is on point

[trail anvil]

ye

[gritty nest]

The more I think about it, why don’t I just build both Lila and Nocturina

[sleek ferry]

I’ve seen it before, with a couple of different iterations. Theres a temur pile that basically wins via doppelganging any of their big names (terror of the peaks usually), a simic pile that just makes more copies of stuff than you can handle, among other stuff

[golden plover]

You're thinking of [[Brainstorm]]

[lost widget]

https://scryfall.com/card/mb2/155/brainstorm

Brainstorm <:manau:292901508754702338>

Instant
Draw three cards, then put two cards from your hand on top of your library in any order.
"I see more than others do because I know where to look." —Saprazzan vizier

[golden plover]

Whoops [[Brain Freeze]]

[lost widget]

https://scryfall.com/card/vma/57/brain-freeze

Brain Freeze <:mana1:292901508373282827><:manau:292901508754702338>

Instant
Target player mills three cards.
Storm (When you cast this spell, copy it for each spell cast before it this turn. You may choose new targets for the copies.)

[gritty nest]

Close enough

[golden plover]

Which also got a modern border print here

[lusty trench]

“Oh brain freeze isn’t too bad price wise I wonder what else you need in order to do the comb-“
Kid named lions eye diamond:

[twilit canyon]

lotus petal does it too

lol

did u really think this combo was so fragile as to have 3 hyper specific pieces

you can do it off mnemonic betrayal, yawg's will, breach

with led and lotus petal

and then of course brain freeze

the only dead piece

[lusty trench]

Completely slipped my mind that’d be possible tbh

[gritty nest]

Does showcase or regular look better?

[trail anvil]

regular

[golden plover]

Yeah I don't love most Unfinity showcases

[gritty nest]

Fair enough

I like the Nocturno showcase, but I think Lila looks goofy

[gritty nest]

Would [[Starlight Spectacular]] be too tedious?

[lost widget]

https://scryfall.com/card/unf/28/starlight-spectacular

Starlight Spectacular <:mana2:292901509060886528><:manaw:1007102126813610074><:manaw:1007102126813610074>

Enchantment
Parade! — At the beginning of combat on your turn, choose creatures you control one at a time until each creature you control has been chosen. Each of those creatures gets +1/+1 until end of turn for each creature chosen before it. (Places everyone! The first creature in line gets +0/+0.)

[glad peak]

probably not, functionally fading +1/+1 counters for the team is interesting but if it happens more than once you're likely to kill anyway

[gritty nest]

It’ll be in my orzhov token generation deck

Basically a silver bordered wincon

[golden plover]

Honestly Starlight Spectacular is less awful than [[Cathar's Crusade]]

[lost widget]

https://scryfall.com/card/jmp/95/cathars-crusade

Cathars' Crusade <:mana3:292901508771610624><:manaw:1007102126813610074><:manaw:1007102126813610074>

Enchantment
Whenever a creature you control enters, put a +1/+1 counter on each creature you control.
Avacyn's holy warriors kept hope alive in her darkest hours. Now they will carry that hope across Innistrad.

[golden plover]

And Crusade is black border

[gritty nest]

[[!Gray Merchant of Alphabet]] is $5

[lost widget]

https://scryfall.com/card/unf/75/gray-merchant-of-alphabet

Gray Merchant of Alphabet

[gritty nest]

I find that funny

[trail anvil]

nah just sort it in order of +1, +2 etc left to right

[trail anvil]

responding to this because discord doesn't like to scroll down 🙂

[gritty nest]

I love discord

I now learned why the merchant is funny

So apparently when you make a token, its name isn’t just “servo”, it’s “servo token” for example

Make a bunch of differently named tokens, declare t, wipe

[twilit canyon]

blb?

i'll grab them

[sleek ferry]

Grabbed already

I grabbed top, bot was already taken

When I tried it

[twilit canyon]

o

i didnt grab either

i forgot lol

[gritty nest]

Oof

[trail anvil]

ty for the charity adam, but y'all taking the codes need to let us know like thugs did

[subtle sierra]

Nah it was azorius

They used blue and white control spells to disrupt and then eventually got to the point where they drew like 2-3 every turn

[atomic harness]

azorius and drawing cards??? sign me up

[subtle sierra]

Yeah i was considering making it

But i want to look at how meta develops

Like, imo it's a decent wincon, but idt we still have anything vs midrange

Midrange can drop something that makes cards and suddenly you can't trade 1 to 1 with them

[atomic harness]

[sleek ferry]

Meta is developing pretty nicely tbh

I’m really enjoying what bloomburrow has done

[trail anvil]

I feel like losing wandering emperor made the midrange matchup a lot worse

[stark skiff]

sorry ill tag people next time i guess for whoever wants them.

[trail anvil]

no I'm not addressing you, I'm saying the people who are taking the codes without saying they did so in chat

you did absolutely nothing wrong lol

@stark skiff

[stark skiff]

oh lol

misread it sorry

waiting for cards from tcgplayer sucks lol. Wish I could finish my Maha deck and play it already.

[subtle sierra]

No, dm them all to me

I will inspect if they're ok to post in chat

[golden plover]

Sided in Hushbringer against Eldrazi and forgot all the MH3 ones are on cast and not ETB? Wacky

[waxen timber]

Yeah, they are trying to callback to the titans who do stuff on cast too

[golden plover]

Yeah but the only two non-titans of note under 5 MV are ETBs

[copper pecan]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/948945461597831218/1271515416522657843/en_5164d2c47a.png?ex=66b79e82&is=66b64d02&hm=af03922f6874dcde40f41e3e1d9952da6c79810f8900033c98569056d5fddebe&=&format=webp&quality=lossless&width=473&height=662

rusko real (in casual play)

[golden plover]

I'm about to start main boarding surgical extractions. I just never fucking see them against Phage

[fallow citrus]

https://x.com/mtg_ds/status/1821950933028221055?t=Kl5035tlWiEhizt22Bwkqw&s=19

Magic Data Science (@mtg_ds) on X

Perfect target for a Cunning Wish

Twitter · Aug 9, 2024, 4:45 PM

[glad peak]

Huh

I actually really like the concept

Like the prohibition cube

[copper pecan]

iirc this mechanic was designed for innistrad and they cut it because it was really hard to balance

[waxen timber]

Cunning Wish for that is 4 mana draw 3. Barely playable

[golden plover]

Yeah Forbidden was designed for Innistrad block and was gonna be used on the helavault cards

[sudden lava]

https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/d/0/d00bd457-e1cc-45e1-8b2e-58f886bd6df8.jpg?1631051826

[sleek ferry]

Here summer, I have an easier one for you

[sudden lava]

yes just play jesakai or izzet

(or mono-red with treasures/mana sources that can make blue in mono-red)

[sleek ferry]

Here if you want a blue card

[sudden lava]

Also has flying which Raven's warning wants

but yeah Can't recall is a meme

[copper pecan]

ayyyy

after years of having mtg cards in duel masters they finally did the opposite of that

also him not having flying even though he has wings is gonna trip a lot of people up

[golden plover]

So.. Mystery Booster 2 festival in a box is a limited print run

Very cool.... Gonna get scalped immediately

And Mardu Outrider is eternal legal

Great job WoTC

[copper pecan]

why wouldn't mardu outrider be legal

it doesn't do anything digital only

[golden plover]

There's no reason he shouldn't be

The issue is brand new eternal legal cards being in this set considering the availability is non-existent

If you don't go to a con or buy a box off a scalper, you can't get this set

Since it's limited run in the SL store

[copper pecan]

okay but nobody is going to play this in any competitive formats

[glad peak]

Playable in Penny dreadful, the format where they played the 3 mana 6/6 that gets smaller with every opponent spell cast

[golden plover]

It's also a decent enough card in commander if you wanna be doing self discard things

But the issue isn't that it's a good card. The issue is that it's a card that's legal in general. It's sorta the buy-a-box promo issue again but more limited

What if next time it's [[Assemble the Team]] for sake of discussion

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https://scryfall.com/card/ybro/17/assemble-the-team

Assemble the Team <:manab:292901508872273920><:manag:292901508654301185>

Sorcery
Search the top third of your library, rounded up, for a card. Put that card into your hand, then shuffle.

[copper pecan]

assemble the team isn't going to be legal in paper ever

[twilit canyon]

this isnt decent anywhere

its an arena starter card for a reason

[copper pecan]

mardu outrider is a dogshit card

[pulsar talon]

Couldnt they just like

Reprint it if it becomes an issue?

[twilit canyon]

yes

its not even restricted at all like ub cards

this is just getting mad for the sake of getting mad

[golden plover]

I dunno, it was historically an issue with buy a box cards and those were easier to obtain

Sure none of these are on the power level of Nexus of Fate

But cards shouldn't be a available in a ridiculously limited print run

The rest of it being con exclusive is fine. It's just weird to have new to paper cards that you can't get in a regular method here

[granite badge]

i thought that if a card was pauper legal you can use any copies of said card

regardless of the printed rarity for specific sets

[sleek ferry]

https://youtu.be/B2G7iZJVsq8?si=Kd4lyMQV9omidRnU casual edh edition

[golden plover]

Nah, not pauper

Paper

[granite badge]

huh

[golden plover]

This is the first time [[Mardu Outrider]] and [[Velukan Dragon]] have been available in paper. Period

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https://scryfall.com/card/anb/52/mardu-outrider

Mardu Outrider <:mana1:292901508373282827><:manab:292901508872273920><:manab:292901508872273920>

Creature — Orc Warrior
As an additional cost to cast this spell, discard a card.
5/5

https://scryfall.com/card/mb2/145/velukan-dragon

Velukan Dragon <:mana5:292901508796645386><:manar:292901508796645397><:manar:292901508796645397>

Creature — Dragon
Flying
Whenever Velukan Dragon attacks or blocks, roll a six-sided die. Velukan Dragon gets +X/+0 until end of turn, where X is the result minus 1.
The most powerful among them, Ashuza rules Veluk with flame and claw.
5/5

[golden plover]

One was an arena card, the other from an old video game

These cards are now able to be played in legacy (lol), vintage (lmao), and commander

So it's weird they're only available in a con-exclusive product

[copper pecan]

velukan dragon might see play in [[space family goblinson]] decks if those exist

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https://scryfall.com/card/unf/179/the-space-family-goblinson

The Space Family Goblinson <:mana2:292901509060886528><:manar:292901508796645397><:manag:292901508654301185>

Legendary Creature — Goblin Guest
The Space Family Goblinson has trample as long as you've rolled three or more dice this turn.
Whenever you roll a die, put a +1/+1 counter on The Space Family Goblinson.
The goblin word for "vacation" translates roughly to "a battered landscape of noise and violence."
1/1

[lusty trench]

This is the issue imo

[golden plover]

I'm not sure what you mean

[trail anvil]

wasn't kenrith buy a box

[golden plover]

True forgot about Kenrith

And [[Firesong and Sunspeaker]]

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https://scryfall.com/card/2x2/215/firesong-and-sunspeaker

Firesong and Sunspeaker <:mana4:292901508712890379><:manar:292901508796645397><:manaw:1007102126813610074>

Legendary Creature — Minotaur Cleric
Red instant and sorcery spells you control have lifelink.
Whenever a white instant or sorcery spell causes you to gain life, Firesong and Sunspeaker deals 3 damage to target creature or player.
The peaks of Hurloon never fall silent.
4/6

[lusty trench]

No one is gonna care if the exclusive cards are hard to get if they’re dog shit

That’s like half the reserve list

[trail anvil]

flubs is also shaping up to be a powerful commander

[golden plover]

Lukcily the other two have prints now

[lusty trench]

And these can get reprinted

[golden plover]

Nexus is still sitting on SL and Foil only

Well it's got its first non-foil print here but that doesn't really count

[sudden lava]

Second two word creature type?

[golden plover]

Doesn't really count

Since it's just a reference to Duel Masters

[sudden lava]

yeah I know just a reference and test card

but funny enough that would mean its not a dragon

[golden plover]

Nah, I'd argue you treat "Armored" as a new type here

Like Mount

[copper pecan]

i feel like it should use duel masters rules where armored dragon is one type but it also counts as a dragon anyways

[golden plover]

That makes sense I guess

We won't get an official ruling

But oh well

[copper pecan]

when the

[glad peak]

We knew flubs was going to be casual war crime level powerful

[gritty nest]

made some changes to foods. Cut Mentor of the Meek for Bonecache Overseer, Blossoming Bogbeast for Sorin of House Markov, and Vito, Fanatic of Aclazotz for Camellia, the Seedmiser

[glad peak]

Have you considered

Protean hulk

[gritty nest]

[[Protean Hulk]]

[lost widget]

https://scryfall.com/card/rvr/153/protean-hulk

Protean Hulk <:mana5:292901508796645386><:manag:292901508654301185><:manag:292901508654301185>

Creature — Beast
When Protean Hulk dies, search your library for any number of creature cards with total mana value 6 or less, put them onto the battlefield, then shuffle.
"Meat and eggs. We eat!" —Borborygmos
6/6

[gritty nest]

No

Too high mana value

[glad peak]

If you have stuff to cheat it and sac it then you win the game tho

[gritty nest]

That’s

That’s not the point of the deck

[fallow citrus]

just flash it out 5head

[gritty nest]

https://www.moxfield.com/decks/zMA2Va5Wck6ZfbdH6RffYw

[glad peak]

Just play flash and you’ll be fine

White is such a good addition to hulk combos

[gritty nest]

I’m not adding proshit hulk

[glad peak]

Oof

He a good boi, no proshit

[gritty nest]

Turbo shit

[fallow citrus]

what is with the aggro in here

just chill out

[gritty nest]

I’m not mad, just meming about protean

I know it’s a dumb card but it’s not for food

[fallow citrus]

https://x.com/StarCityBen/status/1821957689359872175?t=TSc51wiVvAdJyBsArC2rWQ&s=19

Ben Bleiweiss (@StarCityBen) on X

Wrath of Leknif - the ORIGINAL submitted invitational winner's card by @Jonnymagic00 - FINALLY sees print decades later as a Playtest card in #MTG Mystery Booster 2!

THIS is a heck of a call back!

Twitter · Aug 9, 2024, 5:12 PM

[gritty nest]

The only thing I’m annoyed with at the moment is my headache

[fallow citrus]

fair

https://x.com/StarCityBen/status/1821952233379901554?t=Jvcf-tG9TdV3AczLGrPihQ&s=19

Ben Bleiweiss (@StarCityBen) on X

Gobland is a Playtest card in #MTG Mystery Booster 2!

Twitter · Aug 9, 2024, 4:50 PM

idk enough about commander to help tbh

[gritty nest]

Basically meme cards

[rigid scarab]

Print this into pioneer

UW control can be trusted

[sudden lava]

Now give us Merfolk Island

[golden plover]

God can you imagine if this card was legal

Wrath, but free is insane

Well I guess not free upfront

But it'd be strong AF in control

[glad peak]

Give gobland

Would’ve preferred it to being 1/1 with haste and can’t tap for mana though

[rigid scarab]

Would it be played alongside verdict or just replace it

[golden plover]

Depends on the format and MU

Verdict would be better against midrange and decks running counterspells

But in an aggressive format, this would be better since you can hold 4 more mana for interaction

[fallow citrus]

oh god

https://x.com/mtg_ds/status/1821951369575576049?t=h53vulEj_wS-_vXF4HM2Kw&s=19

Magic Data Science (@mtg_ds) on X

Judge!

Twitter · Aug 9, 2024, 4:47 PM

[golden plover]

Is there a way to search your library during combat easily?

[fallow citrus]

fetch lands

also tutor cards

[golden plover]

Yeah true

Was thinking stuff like battle step [[Enlightened Tutor]]

[lost widget]

https://scryfall.com/card/dmr/6/enlightened-tutor

Enlightened Tutor <:manaw:1007102126813610074>

Instant
Search your library for an artifact or enchantment card, reveal it, then shuffle and put that card on top.
"Organization is often undervalued but rarely unjustified." —Frasio, royal archivist

[twilit canyon]

vampiric

[golden plover]

But forgot you could crack a fetch in the battle step and do that

[twilit canyon]

and such

fetches

landcycling

[golden plover]

This would genuinely be a fun card in black border then

[fallow citrus]

https://x.com/mtg_ds/status/1821952372513354090?t=Ro83ZzwMrpPqskd-nwW6GA&s=19

Magic Data Science (@mtg_ds) on X

I suspect @maro254 hates this card

Twitter · Aug 9, 2024, 4:51 PM

[lusty trench]

This card should be like

2 mana

Maybe 3

[golden plover]

Yeah I think 3 is the sweet spot

But I guess the concern is completely shutting off token decks?

[lusty trench]

Lower costs have occurred for negating niche strats

[golden plover]

True

[sudden lava]

Gonna be here in time for commander night next week

[trail anvil]

this is just the other half of vorinclex

with tokens ig

[trail anvil]

it's a fun deck don't sleep on perch protection

[sudden lava]

yeah keeping perch protection in

will be making a few adjustments like adding Gluntch and John "Draw Punch" Benton in

[trail anvil]

be advised she is terrifying, you may get focused down a lot more than typical group hug lol

[sudden lava]

yeah thats fine

[glad peak]

Add manipulate fate, food chain, misthollow, and scourge

[sudden lava]

Funny enough your username reminded me that I need to pick up some mudkip cards to use for tokens

(also Bunearys)

[stark skiff]

Get me the raised foil

[sudden lava]

well certainly can't get them from Amazon, I should print my own instead because they are just tokens

[stark skiff]

I know. Someone has bought out all the raised foils lol

[trail anvil]

can't help you with that one lol

[sudden lava]

Ok TCG player has a bunch of cheap ones to use as tokens

[stark skiff]

It’s crazy like all the 50 buck ones are like 120 now.

Chatterfang like 300

Hell Bumble was like 250 a few days ago.

[sudden lava]

some cheap ones for bunny tokens to

[rigid scarab]

https://www.moxfield.com/decks/Wv2khNNDu0KQf64j0tF6bg

I feel like this deck is lacking that X factor, that thing that makes players go 'holy shit'

Any suggestions?

Among others if you can point them out

[sudden lava]

One Ring.

[rigid scarab]

Holy

Genius

[sudden lava]

Make sure to check your collection to see if you have one, and ask a friend if you don't