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steady onyx
twilit canyon
$30-40
twilit canyon
[[cyclonic rift]] is another insanely good card that is also expensive
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Return target nonland permanent you don't control to its owner's hand.
Overload 
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The Izzet specialize in unnatural disaster.
twilit canyon
theres also [[force of will]]
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twilit canyon
[[deadly rollick]]
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twilit canyon
good cards
somewhat expensive
rollick not as much but meh
not as needed
the big one is definitely mana drain, cyclonic rift, and force of will
and then of course
fetch land mana base
steady onyx
https://scryfall.com/card/rvr/40/cyclonic-rift
is this not in urza as
precon
i swear i own this card
let me check when I get home
mabye I own some of these cards
twilit canyon
if you have it
go ahead and play it
card is strong in casual
but if you dont, it is an expensive card
[[$cyclonic rift]]
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twilit canyon
yeah
trail anvil
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did you use the shipping optimizer tool thingy?
last glen
The optimizer should take shipping into account anyway
steady onyx
did you use the shipping optimizer tool thingy?
no this was before optimizing it
i just needed this as
ss
cause it was so funny
trail anvil
ye lol
steady onyx
i’m also not ordering everything online
so it should be even less shipping
is there an easy way to go thru card store and look for cards u need
if they have like binders and boxes
or is it just gonna be tedious
trail anvil
I think it depends on the LGS
steady onyx
they have boxes of color
and than binders is like 1$ up
so i will look thru binders first I think
than just go thru blue and black boxes
gritty nest
I want your guys opinion. Selling my cards to get a 3D printer?
glad peak
Bruh
gritty nest
I could use the money for both a printer and/or FL Studio
glad peak
Are you good at programming at least?
gritty nest
I’m going to learn
sudden lava
Oh
gritty nest
The music production software yea
gritty nest
Island
sudden lava
glad peak
If you can figure out how to sell a couple things 3D printing then the printer will be much more effective
sudden lava
gritty nest
If you can figure out how to sell a couple things 3D printing then the printer w...
Pringles can deck box with curved deck slot
glad peak
A… wut
glad peak
You can I guess lol
sudden lava
Kenrith reprint in the SL surely
glad peak
But some things I remember people buying are stuff like pins
Pins, commander accessories, deck boxes
gritty nest
I’ll probably print deck boxes for my case
glad peak
Those would be about 12 hours of printing and half a spool
Actually probably less
The gearbox I had took about 12 hours and it’s pretty big
gritty nest
I only need like 3 more deck boxes
They’ll be about the size of ultimate guard boulders
Because my case only holds boxes about those size effectively
I was looking into getting the Ender V2 or V3 SE tbh
glad peak
Can’t remember what the difference between the two are but ender v2 is a good home use one
gritty nest
Fair, I don’t know much tbh
twilit canyon
@sleek ferry i forgot to send u the list but this is what i've been testing in timeless. i did make an edit to play a single chthonian
sleek ferry
Oh yeah ty. I was meaning to try it and test cthonian if anything, this saves me the trouble of going through the initial testing
gritty nest
Mail day
sudden lava
XD
golden plover
sudden lava
twilit canyon
pog
copper pecan
there are now 4700 triggers on the stack
the game seems to have crashed
it booted me back to the main menu
golden plover
I mean, I can get where he's coming from
But he's also overreacting
We are 2 for 3 for Modern Horizons sets outright breaking Modern
It's because all three have been mega pushed, but WoTC needs enfranchised modern players to buy new cards
There's a lot of good designs in each modern horizons set
sleek ferry
I’m honestly just extremely annoyed that the people that are the loudest about the state of modern, don’t even actually play modern tbh
golden plover
But the pushed cards have all been mega pushed
The solution isn't "stop printing MH tho"
It's just "dial the power back on MH cards"
lusty trench
Im praying that HMV doesn't drop my preorder for the squirrel deck because I am not paying more than retail for a bad tribal deck
copper pecan
acting like the entire set was a mistake because of one broken card is really throwing the baby out with the bathwater imo
twilit canyon
I’m honestly just extremely annoyed that the people that are the loudest about t...
literally this
lol
golden plover
acting like the entire set was a mistake because of one broken card is really th...
Yeah it's not the entire set, but all three have had some problem cards
It's mostly tho they just need to tone down the problem cards each time
glad peak
Modern players: “oh new toys! Also the meta is more interactive, I like it”
Non-modern players: “modern is dead and horizons has killed it, there’s no interaction!”
That’s really how things looked before and rn
sleek ferry
Also, once the meta settles we not only see an extremely diverse meta, but old decks pop up again
These same people don’t know that Nadu isn’t dominating MTGO challenges to the same degree and are grasping at the PT results as a way to validate their point
glad peak
It’s like people saying if they win game 1 they should win the match
Legit had people tell me that 
gritty nest
My only issue with mh3 is it should not have had a commander set of stuff
Do you guys think Nadu is still on the chopping block in modern? I don’t keep up enough to know and don’t want to assume
sleek ferry
I’ve always stuck to my guns on the regard that hitting shuko probably pushes Nadu down enough without hitting it
As it adds an extra mana for the combo
gritty nest
There’s what, 3 total equip 0 equipment?
Leather armor and Umbral Mantle
Idk the legality of those two
golden plover
Nadu is way more of an issue in the future tho
golden plover
Hitting Shuko is fine I guess, but [[Nomads en-Kor]] also exists
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: The next 1 damage that would be dealt to Nomads en-Kor this turn is dealt to target creature you control instead.
The kor forsake roots for the winding of the path, forsake voices for the silence of the mind, forsake all else for the poverty of isolation.
1/1
golden plover
And you can still saga into stuff like [[Lavaspur Boots]] which is admittedly slower
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Artifact — Equipment
Equipped creature gets +1/+0 and has haste and ward 
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Equip
These boots were made for far more than walking.
golden plover
Nadu also causes design problems down the line tho
So I dunno why it's not easier to just take out the problem card and call it a day
gritty nest
Basically hitting Shuko slows but not fully eliminates the problem?
golden plover
Hitting Shuko becomes "let's hope this card doesn't become an issue again later"
Also personally seeing shuko on the banlist sounds really embarassing lmao
sleek ferry
Hitting Shuko puts Nadu in line with where most other decks can deal with it. The impact of needing an extra turn to get the combo going is bigger than you guys think
gritty nest
It sounds like Konami logic hitting Shuko imo but that’s none of my business
golden plover
Yeah I think hitting shuko does feel very konami logic
gritty nest
How quick is modern at the moment? Like how many turns to decide a game
gritty nest
I see
golden plover
Also I can't see Shuko ever being a problem card anywhere else
twilit canyon
cephalid breakfast
there shouldnt be cards that cost 0-1 and equip for 0
without a huge restriction like leather armor
trail anvil
what gets me about nadu is this thing looked fuckin insane out the box. hogaak maybe you could look at it and say "oh that's a fun casting cost" but nadu just had so many fuckin ways to make it balanced that they didn't take
glad peak
Funny thing, initial thought was the card was bad
And then we read the card a second time
And then we remembered shuko
trail anvil
was it really even bad on first read? at very minimum we thought it was [[ivy, gleeful spellthief]] adjacent with a strong effect stapled
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trail anvil
and a 3 mana 3/4 flying body is pretty decent already
zinc shard
Bonus cards for the Monty Python SL
trail anvil
apparently neheb's fate is TBD, according to the original dude who released the clarification @golden plover
golden plover
Funny thing, initial thought was the card was bad
Also this is just wrong. All the reveal threads are talking about how he's mega fucked
glad peak
The very first time we read it here and other spoiler channels it was mostly “you get value when it gets removed but it’s mid” and then everyone started seeing the synergies
By first impressions I mean when most people misread the card in the first place lol
golden plover
I guess that's fair, but I think the general consensus is that Nadu was fucked from the start
glad peak
Yeah I remember a lot of people thought it only triggered off spells and made their assessment that way
golden plover
Just had someone [[Defabricate]] my fetch?
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golden plover
I assume it's probably because Stifle is a rare WC and people play sub-optimal stuff when they're out of WCs (Arena economy is beyond fucked)
steady onyx
hey stupid question
is there an easy way to print out a decklist from moxfield
that has colours and stuff
so I can look for cards at my ots really easily
and not just go by name?
best I got was this but this didnt have the colours
like I can get to this so I can check off but will I just have to manually put the colours in?
stark skiff
just screenshot it and print it/save it?
sleek ferry
The matchup vs azorius control is so satisfying
sudden lava
Prerelease tomorrow 😄
copper pecan
society if they had printed [[golgari death swarm]] in mkm
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copper pecan
[[nighthawk scavenger]]
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copper pecan
love this card
sleek ferry
same, card was so good
golden plover
I really hope [[Adanto Vanguard]] is in foundations btw
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golden plover
He's not like crazy strong, but he's always fun in standard and he leads to really interesting combats
glad peak
I hope a lot of the cube all stars are there
Especially the section of white 2 and 4 drops
Red 3 drops too
golden plover
True, would be nice if the set is basically a low power cube
sudden lava
sleek ferry
sudden lava
weaponize your local mice population
stark skiff
The one that powercrept him
Wasn’t he in the vampire precon?
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trail anvil
understandable why this one's the exception
golden plover
Yo Neheb is safe!
Also, I was really confused why my friend was in the "post your reply" thing for a second
golden plover
Yeah, I literally posted it in a discord they're in and saw their pfp right above it
trail anvil
nice
sleek ferry
Took me way too long to do it this season but
gritty nest
Lmfao
lusty trench
Whoops they copy pasted the ONE template for Bloomburrow
This is like the second or third time they've done this
I assume these guides are done very late and rushed out because like... Anyone proof reading this would see the issue
glad peak
otters love oil, just check how they deal with oil in the ocean- oh wait
lusty trench
Cave Johnson: "what do you mean they don't like it and are actively trying to get rid of it? We spent so much money on this that we should've declared bankruptcy yesterday! Is there at least a picture of them looking somewhat neutral about it? No? What do I hire you idiots for!"
copper pecan
"Support your mousefolk with equipment"
golden plover
Oh I didn't even notice that
copper pecan
there are only 5 equips in the entire set, 3 at uncommon and 2 at rare
copper pecan
oh true i forgot about mabel
copper pecan
still though that's very misleading as to what the mosue archetype does
one's boros archetype was equipment
golden plover
Yeah it's probably that they didn't change it much from copy-pasting
I was trying to see if the wording was "support the rebels with equipment" or something tho
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lusty trench
[[Mable, heir]]
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gritty nest
~~Theres a gay joke in here somewhere~~
Haven’t seen this many greased up otters since -
copper pecan
okay it's five equips: two uncommons, one uncommon that makes a token, one rare, and one rare that makes a token
six if you include sword of fire and ice which is a special guest card
golden plover
I wouldnt count it. Sure, you can draft it but it's very unlikely
lusty trench
>"Support your mousefolk with equipment"
Also to be fair this is not the complete sentence, the combat tricks red has this set is kinda nuts in limited
Iirc they have a one sided fight
stark skiff
sleek ferry
Rip it on stream right now
trail anvil
pull some good shit
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1kOdD6CD0Rk cruelclaw rakdos looks kinda nutty
cruelclaw's heist is probably the easiest gift too, jesus
sleek ferry
lusty trench
Damn, hosed
golden plover
Oh it's a box
lusty trench
12 packs at around £250... That's about £20 a pack, 5 rares per pack, that's £4 a rare. Not a bad rate considering play boosters are £6-7 and you can get premium treatments
Unfortunately the set just lacks value
It's cute, it's going to sell well, but no cards in it are above £15 even now
stark skiff
Yeah got Gitrog reprint and some other critters.
trail anvil
Unfortunately the set just lacks value
yeah most likely. still going to prerelease tho
stark skiff
I didn’t pull a single Maha and I wanna make him my commander lol
Do I go for a third? 
lusty trench
Adam pls maha is less than £10
lusty trench
yeah most likely. still going to prerelease tho
Ye I like going to pre release regardless
sleek ferry
Let the man spend his lawyer money
lusty trench
I suppose it is supporting his lgs regardless
gritty nest
No his legs will give out
sleek ferry
Buy an otj collectors and send me all your big score cards Adam
zinc shard
I just looked at whats still gonna be in standard
I thought more sets were rotating out
Like dang 10 sets are gonna be in Standard with Bloomburrow release
gritty nest
That sounds messy
stark skiff
Adam pls maha is less than £10
stark skiff
Buy an otj collectors and send me all your big score cards Adam
None here kid sorry
lusty trench
<:Hahaa:642861303387521034>
The face of a man that went for number 3
gritty nest
Too late
twilit canyon
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1kOdD6CD0Rk cruelclaw rakdos looks kinda nutty
looks nutty but keep in mind that this is a bunch of ppl playing shit typal decks and crokeyz playing a real deck
tho i do think that this deck has strong plays vs good decks too
trail anvil
I agree. it needs to be taken with a grain of salt, but rakdos as a shell is already decent and I think the wezl is a 3-drop that must be answered before it drops a carnosaur for free
all that said if aggro is hurt decently by rotation then I like this deck's chances even more. I'm not sure I'd make the exact same card choices but there's a lot of good stuff
gritty nest
What do you guys think of the commander precons btw?
stark skiff
The face of a man that went for number 3
Let’s just say I found out that the raised foils are not in each collector box
Thought they were lol
trail anvil
What do you guys think of the commander precons btw?
I'm getting the group hug one after all cause it turns out gluntch has a lot less synergies than I initially thought 
they seem solid
gritty nest
Yea bant group hug seems the best in terms of options
trail anvil
well for that it depends which playstyle you like tbh
sudden lava
Just picked up these 2 at locals today
sadly could not find a Gluntch in the monster manual-esque style, but its ok
gritty nest
well for that it depends which playstyle you like tbh
fair point
glunch is apparently best at king making
kwain is perfect for handing out knives in the right order
gritty nest
?
glad peak
Zinnia with dockside 
And cards that grab dockside
Also bumbleflower has a couple infinite storm combos in that color
Decent options to think about
gritty nest
oh
trail anvil
glunch is apparently best at king making
kwain is perfect for handing out knives...
I don't really see that with kwain, isn't he just everyone draws but I draw harder
gritty nest
trail anvil
gluntch it depends how you wanna play it. I usually use him to boost the player who's doing the worst while convincing the table I'm not a threat
gritty nest
this is where i get the knives comment from btw
trail anvil
I've seen that video before but I'm still not quite sure what he means lol
gritty nest
kwain is best for group hug where you want to win
glunch best for helping
the last one is best for doing whatever
sudden lava
kwain is best for group hug where you want to win
glunch best for helping
the la...
throwing both into bumbleflower
trail anvil
tbh maybe
I think bumbleflower will become the new best with the synergies she promotes and the fact that you can choose who gets the draws
sudden lava
exactly
stark skiff
I think bumbleflower will become the new best with the synergies she promotes an...
She definitely is. Rest of them feel too gimmicky
trail anvil
do you mean out of the bloomburrow precon commanders or the group hug commanders
stark skiff
Group
sudden lava
Alright backpack all ready for prerelease tomorrow. Packed dice, deckbox, a pen and notebook (aka lifepoint tracker OR tokens), enough sleeves to sleeve up a 40 card deck plus many extras, water bottle if I get thirsty, cash for sign up, and my playmat.
zinc shard
Ballin. I'd also bring a binder with cards you wanna trade if you have any
trail anvil
man I feel like I just completely glossed over some cards on reveal
fallow citrus
Twitter
stark skiff
These were the foil pulls from 3 collector boxes. I only bought 3 cause I thought the raised foils were a guarantee 
@sleek ferry @atomic harness @rigid scarab
Aside from that I got 2 borderless Tree Cities and 1 regular foil so that’s neat to get rid of.
lusty trench
Ayo ocelot pride shot up in price what happened
stark skiff
Ayo ocelot pride shot up in price what happened
I know the borderless foil is like 100
stark skiff
Adam pls maha is less than £10
Btw the real star of box 3
lusty trench
So long as you're supporting your lgs ig
stark skiff
lol i was gonna stop at 2 but i stupidly thought there was raised foil in all of them. didnt realize i just got lucky getting 2 in 2 haha
also its randomly $20 here
lusty trench
Cringe
Me buying my cards from Spain because for whatever reason they're cheap as shit there
lusty trench
Iirc infamous cruelclaw is like £6 in Spain rn
stark skiff
base is like $14 foil is like $20 lol
but it is presale so it might go down but magic is more resilient so idk
lusty trench
There's a lot of good cards I think are undervalued in bloom burrow right now, cruel claw isn't one of them
stark skiff
yeah usually happens where random stuff shoots up. I think the seasons are way too cheap
btw looking at the raised foils and now I want Gev and Baylen lol
the bear is dope but expensive af
lusty trench
The bear is one of those cards I think is cheap af rn and I have no clue why
A lot of green decks want it
glad peak
Which bear?
stark skiff
oh i was just looking at the raised foil its like $235. Borderless is like $45/$55, $15, $40, and the regular is like $10, $14
stark skiff
Which bear?
Lumra
glad peak
I was going to build an analyst deck and the bear was like $40
I’m still seeing 40-50 on that
lusty trench
Lumra is £5 here
glad peak
Bruh give
stark skiff
are all the commanders in raised foil or just hazel?
lusty trench
All should have one iirc
stark skiff
oh tcg only has hazel
lusty trench
The bunny one definitely has one from memory
Huh some are JP only?
Cringe
Happy that people are recognising that pollywog prodigy is the best new commander cards
glad peak
Him and eruth is an obvious synergy even in casual that I can see people pushing him out of tables
lusty trench
Flubs is one of those commanders where you can't read it and assume the player using it will be doing fair things with it
Like if you rock up with flubs to a casual game I'm expecting war crimes
Same for cruelclaw
glad peak
Cruelclaw is interesting, idk if I prefer it as turbo naus or big stuff reanimator
stark skiff
all ive seen is turbo naus lol
glad peak
Yeah, she lends well to reanimator since you can discard a fatty to reanimate or just flip into it
stark skiff
heh cruelclaw is in the vid i linked
fallow citrus
Btw the real star of box 3 <:Hahaa:642861303387521034>
I love the art on this
steady onyx
is there a easy and kinda decent deck that will be good after the format switches in mtga? i kinda wanna try mtga again but idk what to build
i dont have that many cards
or wildcards
but idk
stark skiff
I love the art on this
same not a fan of the showcase variants on this one or the rest of the beasts
fallow citrus
is there a easy and kinda decent deck that will be good after the format switche...
which format are you playing
steady onyx
this is what I have
steady onyx
which format are you playing
idk what would u reccomend
standard seems the most common
so probaly that
fallow citrus
well if you want a decent standard deck you'll want to wait until bloomburrow settles and everyone thinks of decks to play
fallow citrus
for a good cheap deck there will probably still be a version of mono red aggro rocking around
https://mtgazone.com/standard-rotation/ also you can see this for rotaion
steady onyx
are any blue / dimir/ azorious/ simic decks cheap and good
those are my favorite colours normally
lusty trench
well if you want a decent standard deck you'll want to wait until bloomburrow se...
And then duskmorn will be out
fallow citrus
yeah
lusty trench
(why is there less than a month between standard sets)
fallow citrus
this is why I don't play standard
a format constantly evolving is good if evolutions have a healthy time between them
golden plover
It's crazy that Alchemy gets old rotation and Standard doesnt
The extra year of rotation doesn't really seem like it helped standard tbh. Just kept the annoying cards in there longer
golden plover
Ayo ocelot pride shot up in price what happened
Card is good in like 3 different modern decks
Turns out a stacked 1 drop with 5 lines of text is strong
steady onyx
is it more worth to open packs u need mythic from or rare from
i have 15 rare wc and 7 mythic
i need 20 rares and 6 mythic
there are 2 sets I need 3 rare 3 mythic and 1 set I need 8 rare 0 mythic
i assume open the set with 8 rare and 0 mythic?
for mtga
copper pecan
if you're looking for a specific rare in arena then it is more worth it to open packs that have that card
for mythics it isn't worth it because mythics are a lot rarer
steady onyx
ok
and i already have all the mythic wild cards I would need
ok
also another stupid question, is this legal in standard? i was following a list that said standard legal but had this card in it, i am confused because it seems to be from kaldesh which I dont think? is a standard set
copper pecan
that is legal in standard because it was reprinted in thunder junction
golden plover
Nah, you can use a copy from any set
golden plover
Speaking of legal, just found out [[Coalition victory]] is modern legal
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golden plover
How are we turboing a win with this and Leyline
trail anvil
are simic cookies still in post rotation? that seems like a decent budget simic deck
ik tough cookie and zoetic glyph are which are big for the deck
steady onyx
are simic cookies still in post rotation? that seems like a decent budget simic ...
thats what im playing!!
its really fun
i know almost nothing about magic
but its super super super super fun
and like it feels good
i know I cant really judge
trail anvil
yeah still seems good
trail anvil
idk if there are any new tools, probably not
steady onyx
how do u open like the big picture of the deck in mtga?
heres what I was using
i should be running 4 botanical sanctum
but i ran out of rare cp so on 2 more basics of each
trail anvil
[[hard-hitting question]]
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steady onyx
is the format where this deck is popular popular format irl?
i kinda wanna try to play this irl
it seems cheap
only like 100$
golden plover
This deck would really only work in Standard
It's probably not likely you've got a standard scene, but if you do, it's good there
lusty trench
Man it is hot as balls in my lgs rn
golden plover
Speaking of good decks, this one does everything
Crazy how when all your cards cost 2 mana and do a billion damage you just win
steady onyx
It's probably not likely you've got a standard scene, but if you do, it's good t...
how would I know
just like check ots?
golden plover
You can check in their official app and there's a store locator on their website
Both should tell you if there's any standard events
Otherwise I guess you just gotta ask
lusty trench
Damn bloomburrow really do be a set where I care more about the rares than the mythics
golden plover
Do note the official app is shit and crashes and constantly doesn't show events lmao
trail anvil
you don't even need to download companion, just look up "mtg event locator"
golden plover
Yeah honestly that's better
I literally only use companion for events where I've gotta
And even then it sucks half the time
trail anvil
I just use it to sign in then use it as a life tracker lol
golden plover
Its not a pre-release if companion doesn't crash and we have to start manually updating the bracket
Literally every pre-release has had companion crash, so my LGS has to get the bracket running on their own after like round 2
gritty nest
Stonks
steady onyx
is modern standard?
golden plover
No, modern is a different format
trail anvil
no modern is another format
steady onyx
oh
gritty nest
Is standard commander
golden plover
Standard is Standard
steady onyx
yeah everything near me is commander
trail anvil
if it doesn't say standard sometimes it'll say enchantress night for those who are nb or women
but yeah for standard if you're not in a big city you might need to expand your search
golden plover
Ngl, paper anything but commander is struggling
I'm in a big city and we only get standard running twice a month
golden plover
Modern once. Pioneer once. And anything else is non-existent
Commander night every Tuesday and Saturday tho
golden plover
Biggest city in the state here and is still he driving an hour for Standard
But also, Arena really killed any reason to play paper standard
(Outside of it being cheaper in paper half the time and LGSes having leagues with prizes)
I was gonna say post-rotation standard might be cheap enough we'll see it running again
But.... Post rotation standard still has DMU
lusty trench
But.... Post rotation standard still has DMU
Ain’t no way 💀
lusty trench
ONE MORE YEAR SHEOLDRED
golden plover
Actually wanna know something fucked up?
SNC and Midnight Hunt are currently still standard legal
They rotate with Bloomburrow
But it feels like SNC has been in standard FOREVER
This rotation is Kamigawa, SNC, and the Innistrads
Next is DMU, BRO, ONE, MOM, and Aftermath
copper pecan
my town has three locals and it looks like two of them have modern events fairly often
also i'm glad that alchemy will soon no longer have sheoldred
twilit canyon
one format will be saved
trail anvil
it's okay golgari landfall will save the format
golden plover
It's so weird alchemy uses the regular standard rotation timeline
copper pecan
iirc they kept the old schedule for alchemy because they wanted to further differentiate it from standard
sleek ferry
that's exactly why yeah
golden plover
What I don't get is why standard is rotating on 3 years in general tho
Isn't the biggest complaint with standard that it already feels really stale? Adding another year doesn't help it feel less stale from what I understand
golden plover
I feel like the majority of complaints I hear about standard are "format has felt the same for the past year +" from people who play
I know rotation sucks, but I wouldn't expect an extra year of sets in standard to fix the same feeling format issue
copper pecan
yeah but the issue isn't keeping the people who play happy, it's to get more people to play in the first place
golden plover
There's really not any winning with that one then, is there?
Well at least with paper
copper pecan
probably not but that's what they were trying to do with the schedule change
twilit canyon
ppl who are playing standard rn
are gonna do so basically regardless
so
try and appeal to more players to grab them
sleek ferry
Correct, I’ll keep playing standard regardless of what they do
Also I wouldn’t say the format has been the same
If anything, OTJ shook up the meta a good amount
craggy moss
Commander is so chill
trail anvil
bunnies acquired
glad peak
Now build it as an aggro deck because she gives you card draw
trail anvil
fellas... I think I wanna try to make [[perch protection]] work
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trail anvil
gift an extra turn is a genuinely fuckin wild line of text, but I can definitely see scenarios where you give it to the last place player to either put them back in the game or the extra turn doesn't even matter because they're so behind
it's 100% not best in slot but I imagine the reactions to this card will be hilarious
twilit canyon
fellas... I think I wanna try to make [[perch protection]] work
oh no hes cooked
trail anvil
damn right I've cooked 🔥
twilit canyon
he is cooked
trail anvil
Ramp 17 cards
Lands 38 cards
Perch Protection 1 card
Creatures 45 cards
someone who is good at the game please help me fit in propaganda, please help my deck is struggling
rigid scarab
Don't fit in propaganda
Wait why does your deck have 45 creatures
Is this a shitpost
trail anvil
yes
trail anvil
man I wanna use this new art of tamiyo field researcher but I don't really have a deck for her lol
zinc shard
[[Ugin's Nexus]]
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zinc shard
I promised you a free turn, I didn't say you were actually getting it
sleek ferry
Well I’m equally pilled sadly
I think rakdos lizards might be something in standard…
trail anvil
[[Ugin's Nexus]]
well the deck actually does really want to run [[trouble in pairs]] so it works 
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trail anvil
I think rakdos lizards might be something in standard…
I see some promising cards in there, I'd like to see it tbh
I wanna see [[flamecache gecko]] as a bte adjacent card
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Creature — Lizard Warlock
When Flamecache Gecko enters, if an opponent lost life this turn, add 
.
, Discard a card: Draw a card.
Wood holds a flame for only so long before it crumbles into ash. But stone can burn forever.
2/2
sleek ferry
Yeah this card is part of the reason I’m probably building lizards
But it sucks, because it means I now have no excuse not to craft cavern of souls
trail anvil
I feel like it's just a good card to craft all around lol. there's gonna always be a typal synergy to build for
zinc shard
shame Voldarin Epicure is rotating out
trail anvil
also apparently the fox in this commander deck is trying his hardest to get with ms. bumbleflower but she's oblivious
zinc shard
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SqMSqI_u0Os
This is the deck im most excited for
pulsar talon
Oh hey
rigid scarab
Man
I just opened a bloomburrow box and figured
There's nearly zero value in here
The most expensive base card in the set is $30
Then $23
And it just drops
trail anvil
yeah sounds about right
rigid scarab
And these are prerelease prices
This is as high as it gets
Like that's staggeringly low
gritty nest
I picked up two precons today
The Red Green deck, and the Jeskai deck (didn’t pay money for that one so bonus)
rigid scarab
Idk this is the first core set box I opened where it just felt awful for me to open
trail anvil
The Red Green deck, and the Jeskai deck (didn’t pay money for that one so bonus)
be the trash lord you know you can be
stark skiff
Idk this is the first core set box I opened where it just felt awful for me to o...
welcome to the club buddy
fallow citrus
What's the modern meta looking like rn
after euros I might pivot into just playing mtg physically
glad peak
Pretty fun even with nadu being an annoying deck to play against
Energy is fun
Mono black is pretty fun too but wouldn’t recommend starting with it
fallow citrus
how does energy play
glad peak
Midrange
You can play aggressive and grind value with phlage while controlling the board with removal and maybe a board wipe here and there depending on your build
I’ve seen some lists go more aggro and some go into jeskai for control
fallow citrus
okay that seems pretty cool
gritty nest
be the trash lord you know you can be
The red green deck had an error in the box
golden plover
Does it?
sleek ferry
Idk this is the first core set box I opened where it just felt awful for me to o...
Set is pretty ass, but has some cards with potential to spike up. I would say it’s MKM adjacent
golden plover
It's at least more interesting than MKM and some of the cards are probably playable
sleek ferry
Idk, at least in standard MKM is aging pretty well
New teysa is starting to see play for example
glad peak
There are some interesting ideas for decks coming out of the set for sure but prices will be determined by how good decks coming from blb will be
lusty trench
Bloomburrow is gonna be one of those odd sets where it sells well despite having fuck all in it
golden plover
rigid scarab
There are some interesting ideas for decks coming out of the set for sure but pr...
Something hurting BLB is a lack of soyjack commander cards
Despite gifts
sleek ferry
Bloomburrow is gonna be one of those odd sets where it sells well despite having...
Well yeah, visually the set is top notch h
rigid scarab
Also not a whole lot of cards that go into existing decks due to all the new tribal stuff
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golden plover
This superdrop has like 0 value holy shit
lusty trench
sees infamous cruelclaw
Close enough, welcome back yuriko
golden plover
Blb has a bunch of decent commander cards
I still wanna build the fox. Feels fun to cheat out Jin Gitaxias and draw 70 cards
gritty nest
Super drops had value?
golden plover
Some of the older superdrops were worth it
Iirc, at the time the Halloween superdrop with stranger things was like $100 cheaper than getting all the cards
stark skiff
https://magic.wizards.com/en/news/announcements/secret-lair-in-an-elevator-super...
Wow this is ass besides the Bloomburrow one and maybe that last artist series.
golden plover
The Brain Dead cards are genuinely super ugly
Sucks they've got the most value in the lair
gritty nest
How did everyone’s bloomburrow prerelease go?
sudden lava
How did everyone’s bloomburrow prerelease go?
I'm going to mine later today, I'll let ya know later
lusty trench
Mine went pretty bad, just opened a wide amount of decent stuff just spread too thin
gritty nest
Oof
lusty trench
Red and black was my strongest but was lacking in early removal and my overall presence in the game started sputtering out after turn 4
gritty nest
Ouch
Yea no by the time I got back every single prerelease kit sold except 1, and someone put that last one on hold for some reason
I was more annoyed with some random who never shows up putting it on hold vs it actually selling then and there
lusty trench
My lgs is straight up out of packs
gritty nest
Mine still has boxes
Some precons left
I think the RG and Jeskai decks sold the least, with Group Hug selling first followed by squirrels
My friend said the squirrel deck is kinda mid in use
With Bello and Zinnia being the dumbest
lusty trench
Squirrels is just kinda missing some of the stuff you’d like to finish with
End raze forerunners is a poor hoof substitute
gritty nest
Oh definitely
My friend added earthcraft and Deranged Hermit to the deck immediately
lusty trench
Generally it’s just a generic token spam deck, but since squirrels is incredibly niche it struggles
The jeskai one seems the most generic one
barren cairn
I would buy it bc they have it cheap but I have too many decks
Also generic
Might just buy the commander by itself later
lusty trench
The main thing the jeskai deck has is pollywog prodigy
gritty nest
[[Pollywog Prodigy]]
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gritty nest
That’s pretty good
Also I didn’t realize how out of hand zinnia gets until I swung with it and a 6 power [[Jacked Rabbit]]
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gritty nest
Zinnia was a like 13/3 flying before damage
stark skiff
Zinniai is wild
offspring on anything is interesting
its the one i wanna lab the most probably
copper pecan
subtle sierra
glad peak
I wanna eat them
golden plover
The mice or the food?
lusty trench
For how hard they advertised mice as a creature type for bloomburrow, they sure didn’t print any with any real cohesion
At most Mabel enables the others with her equipment ig
Shame I would’ve liked a mouse deck
rigid scarab
The mice or the food?
Both
lusty trench
Bro don’t they’re working so hard 
rigid scarab
Bloomburrow's push of tribal themes I think is gonna make the set kind of parasatic
Which may hurt it in the long run
rigid scarab
Bro don’t they’re working so hard <:VERYSADCAT:823133770290167808>
So????????
I literally don't care
lusty trench
trail anvil
For how hard they advertised mice as a creature type for bloomburrow, they sure ...
have you not seen boros mice? they're a pretty decent deck
trail anvil
I like the pie mage
perfect thing to learn magic for tbh
lusty trench
have you not seen boros mice? they're a pretty decent deck
I am an edh player so sadly not something I can nor want to play
glad peak
They make pies but what use are they if they keep getting their pies stolen
So just eat them
rigid scarab
I am an edh player so sadly not something I can nor want to play
Yeah that's the thing
trail anvil
oh if you're edh only then ig that's something else lol
rigid scarab
Bloomburrow doesn't give many things for EDH that aren't exclusive to bloomburrow
And since Bloomburrow is a low power set
trail anvil
you can run some of the mice that have valiant ig in equipment lol
rigid scarab
Those new EDH decks are gonna be low power
glad peak
I wonder how the limited environment is
The precons are pretty low power but the commanders are absurd in design
trail anvil
time to find out, going in 2 hours
rigid scarab
Like I'm struggling to name like
10 cards in bloomburrow that commander players want
And in 2024 that's not a good look
lusty trench
you can run some of the mice that have valiant ig in equipment lol
At that point it’s just boros commander.deck though sadly
trail anvil
perch protection
didn't some commander players complain about power creep within commander too tho
I don't think every set needs to be a big addition to the format
lusty trench
Into the flood maw is still what I consider the best card in the set
rigid scarab
I don't think every set needs to be a big addition to the format
And those sets are gonna pay the price
trail anvil
I think the squirrel commander and some of the cards are pretty solid tbh
rigid scarab
Its main selling point in commander is that it's cute and children will like it
lusty trench
I’m mainly confused by some of the new squirrel commander stuff
trail anvil
Its main selling point in commander is that it's cute and children will like it
well we'll see how much that carries lol
catering to a certain market can be big bucks
copper pecan
i think it's gonna carry it pretty well
rigid scarab
Looking at cardkingdom the most expensive card is $30
And that's prerelease price
So that's as good as it's getting for a few months
lusty trench
[[moonstone eulogist]]
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Creature — Bat Warlock
Flying
Whenever a creature an opponent controls dies, you create a Blood token. (It's an artifact with ", 
, Discard a card, Sacrifice this artifact: Draw a card.")
Whenever you sacrifice an artifact, put a +1/+1 counter on Moonstone Eulogist and you gain 1 life.
4/4
lusty trench
Why the fuck is this in squirrels
copper pecan
i've seen more people excited for bloomburrow than i have for any other set since ltr
lusty trench
That’s putting aside the fact it’s awful
trail anvil
¯_(ツ)_/¯
rigid scarab
And like LTR
trail anvil
deck likes tokens and that's a token maker. probably why
rigid scarab
It's being carried by flavour and theme
If LTR was repurposed to like
A kaldheim set or something
It wouldn't be nearly as well received
copper pecan
if ltr was set on dominaria nobody would give a shit about it
trail anvil
and ltr has 2 extremely format warping cards
rigid scarab
Idk maybe I'm being too hard on the set bc my box was bad
But looking at ck I don't think there was any way for the box to be good
Even if I pulled like
Multiple three-tree cities
trail anvil
I wouldn't look at any set for making a profit, but if you really want money cards then mh3 is still probably where it's at
fetch lands alone are great to pull
rigid scarab
I buy a box when a new set comes out for the pure enjoyment of it
Not looking to make a profit
If you super duper highroll a set you could get your money back
If you super duper highroll here
You make like
A bit over half the box
That's my point
trail anvil
tbh my biggest gripe with this set is the lack of a rare land cycle
even if it does include a really powerful land
that'd help with the overall box return too I imagine
rigid scarab
Maybe it's time I look towards building a new deck
stark skiff
For how hard they advertised mice as a creature type for bloomburrow, they sure ...
Yeah this is honestly dumb
lusty trench
I think they focused too hard on too many groups rather than making the groups have enough cohesion, it feels very spread thin with a few cards (the valley blankcallers and the dual typed ones) that merge the themes
The ones that got the best ride out of those is lizards and rats, the graveyard focus of rats helps keep you relevant in the late if the initial aggro of the lizards fail
Frogs and birds are in an odd spot, they care about bouncing to the point it damages their statlines, but don't have anything super great to bounce outside of the higher rarities, I'd say birds and mice also did decently, augmenting flies works as well as augmenting the mice
Bats and birds are... Kinda pathetic? They lack stats massively but evasion is always good, it's mainly the payoffs for gaining or losing life aren't great, still they have the best pick of removal
Almost forgot racoons, also a good pair for lizards, have some bigger creatures to supplement the late
lusty trench
Squirrels... Kind of exist? Their theme of food tokens/foraging in limited is hard to pull off
Still some have good value/stat lines
Otters as well, they rarely get to do anything funky but there are a few decent ones
gritty nest
True. I think the forage mechanic is going to be more useful with more cards to work with. Limited there’s like no food generation and no consistent way for recursion from exile
What do you think of the stuff like bloodroot apothecary and Three Tree City?
lusty trench
Three tree city is interesting, it's a sidegrade? But likely worse cradle, but I don't think highly of cradle to begin with (very much win more usually)
Bloodroot apothecary is a very funky card to read, but likely worse than just a stax piece that limits cards played per turn like rule of law
Mainly because it's a creature
Kill it and continue the combo
gritty nest
True
I was thinking of getting three tree for Minotaur tribal just because of the high mana curve
Averages 4,5,6
Like what was said above there’s not really much commander stuff I saw, but even then the set wasn’t commander dedicated right?
lusty trench
It's not a bad idea, might give you an extra play per turn
gritty nest
And another threat besides Didgeridoo
lusty trench
Like what was said above there’s not really much commander stuff I saw, but even...
Not in particular
gritty nest
My friends now hate the didgeridoo
Do you play commander at all Jotlico or are you more into constructed?
lusty trench
This [[pollywog prodigy]] is the closest we have to something I think, though there's also a couple more interesting ones are like prosperous bandit, and agate instigator
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lusty trench
Do you play commander at all Jotlico or are you more into constructed?
Mainly commander, some limited
lusty trench
Draft and pre release
lusty trench
It is good fun, generally end up with a better deck than prerelease if you know how to read a pod despite the lower pack amount
See what colours are not being picked and leave yourself room to pivot to a different colour (not many multi colours) and it should be a good time
lusty trench
You think Bloomburrow would be fun to draft?
I do, it has the makings for it
barren cairn
2-1 in prerelease rn
lusty trench
The one that is big when you have lots of lands
Yeah probably the biggest removal check the set has
Maybe maha?
glad peak
Maha might be more
Actually hold on, do we have anything that pings that can also hit creatures in this set?
barren cairn
I'm playing Boros
Could not remove the bear
And then he gave it trample and I died
lusty trench
There's some white removal but it would be difficult
gritty nest
I do, it has the makings for it
I will look into getting a box then potentially
Last box I bought for drafting was unfinity because everyone wanted to draft it
lusty trench
Unfinity had an issue with the mechanics being silly yes... But not a fun silly, more of an unwieldy silly
gritty nest
No one got together so I just cracked it open
They knew, they thought it’d be fun
Then they got mad when I cracked it after waiting 3~ weeks
lusty trench
Bruh
gritty nest
Yea exactly
lusty trench
Hope you got a decent number of shocks
gritty nest
2 shocks
1 box topper and 1 in packs
Sacred Foundry was the topper and Godless Shrine was in packs
lusty trench
Sheesh that's rough
stark skiff
Yeah probably the biggest removal check the set has
Should I play in my prerelease?
Never done one but I know how it works lol
lusty trench
I would they’re fun
stark skiff
Yeah pretty sure my lgs is all commander pilled anyways
So I might be able to sneak wins in
lusty trench
Did you get any of the BLB precons?
Got the squirrel one, haven’t received it yet, got it from a big box retailer so I won’t get it until the 1st at the earliest
stark skiff
Oh yeah had a precon match. Buddy bought two. He gave me the squirrel one. Ended up winning. Swarming the board and being able to play crazy mana is nice
The bat is crazy strong in it too lol since you crack treasures easy or Food
stark skiff
https://scryfall.com/card/blc/19/moonstone-eulogist
^ this thing lol
trail anvil
I got a boros deck that basically built itself for prerelease
gritty nest
Got the squirrel one, haven’t received it yet, got it from a big box retailer so...
Oof, I got the Jeskai and Gruul decks at prerelease
The gruul deck is dumb as hell
Like, nobody runs enchantment/artifact removal and during opponents turns the artifacts/enchantments are not creatures
It auto crews vehicles essentially so stuff like [[Thunderhawk Gunship]] are just free
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barren cairn
Man
Faced my friend for the first time in a perelease, should have been a hype moment
get destroyed immediately as if I was playing vs krenko
lusty trench
Lizard aggro?
barren cairn
Lizard aggro?
Selesnya
But he had a trampling rabbit with a ton of power and my deck had an average Boros moment
trail anvil
I got a boros deck that basically built itself for prerelease
went 2-1 (really 1-1-1 cause I went into time helping a new player, but she was nice enough to give me the win for the pack), that was fun. all my matches were close
[[coruscation mage]] feels nuts if you have a high enough concentration of noncreature spells with aggro
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Creature — Otter Wizard
Offspring 
(You may pay an additional as you cast this spell. If you do, when this creature enters, create a 1/1 token copy of it.)
Whenever you cast a noncreature spell, this creature deals 1 damage to each opponent.
2/2
trail anvil
[[fountainport bell]] feels like a fantastic card. color consistency with lategame draw
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Artifact
When Fountainport Bell enters, you may search your library for a basic land card, reveal it, then shuffle and put that card on top.
, Sacrifice Fountainport Bell: Draw a card.
Fountainport's town crier once saved the townsfolk from predation by a rottenmouth viper with only their bell.
trail anvil
the fact that it's a 1-drop makes it fit really damn well into your curve
golden plover
Oh cool [[Rage Extractor]] is broken rn in a way that makes it very good
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Artifact
(
can be paid with either or 2 life.)
Whenever you cast a spell with 
in its mana cost, Rage Extractor deals damage equal to that spell's mana value to any target.
New Phyrexia is an engine that both consumes and creates malice.
golden plover
It's gatherer text broke because it used to use {P} to refer for Phyrexian mana, and now uses {H}
But the string isn't there for {H}
So on gatherer it now just says "whenever you cast a spell with in its mana cost"
Meaning every spell
trail anvil
golden plover
So until it's officially fixed, Rage Extractor does damage equal to the MV of every spell played
trail anvil
the more I look at it the better [[flamecache gecko]] looks
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Creature — Lizard Warlock
When Flamecache Gecko enters, if an opponent lost life this turn, add .
, Discard a card: Draw a card.
Wood holds a flame for only so long before it crumbles into ash. But stone can burn forever.
2/2
trail anvil
if you can reliably get a 1 drop on board this thing seems like basically bte. I'd even be tempted to run this in monored
not to mention it can loot if it's the last thing you cast that turn so the mana doesn't go to waste
lusty trench
The one drop in question that easily activates this in almost every situation [[iridescent vinelasher]]
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Creature — Lizard Assassin
Offspring (You may pay an additional as you cast this spell. If you do, when this creature enters, create a 1/1 token copy of it.)
Landfall — Whenever a land you control enters, this creature deals 1 damage to target opponent.
1/2
lusty trench
Could go iridescent vinelasher turn 1, then turn 2 flamecache into fireglass mentor get the exile card for advantage?
lusty trench
There's hired claw as well
Not as good but something ig
Could also add rotcaller and flamecaller for extra damage? Feels a bit eh though
sleek ferry
Flamecaller is cope iirc, one of them is cope
lusty trench
On second though hired claw doesn't get the most value out of it, since they need to attack in order to ping, the fireglass mentor will miss the exile top trigger for that turn
trail anvil
mm I feel like flamecaller is a decent damage amp on a body idk
sleek ferry
There’s better cards and you only have so many slots
stark skiff
What was included in my prerelease box
gritty nest
flub
trail anvil
they just didn't attack for 3-4 turns then conceded when I played this???
I didn't even have wandering emperor mana???? lmao
gold is a trip
fallow citrus
Twitter
atomic harness
I'll take your entire stock
glad peak
Welp time to start printing these
stark skiff
I'll take your entire stock
rich
glad peak
How does blb draft feel so far?
copper pecan
pretty good so far i think
do not attempt to run more than 2 colors though
there's barely any mana fixing in the set
fallow citrus
hmm maybe I play merfolk
glad peak
Damn, that was the fear I had with forcing 2 colors into a draft set
copper pecan
i tried to play red white green and bricked in almost every game
glad peak
Also you probably want to play UR wizards if you’re thinking of merfolk, I’d suggest trying a higher power deck first in modern for a better feel
lusty trench
You can absolutely splash colours provided you’re in green, have the good one drop artifact, the mole, the changeling that filters and or the filter land
fallow citrus
lists with or without [[silvergill adept]]
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Creature — Merfolk Wizard
As an additional cost to cast this spell, reveal a Merfolk card from your hand or pay 
.
When Silvergill Adept enters, draw a card.
"If you keep to the shallows, you'll never learn the secrets of the depths."
2/1
fallow citrus
I've been pilled on disliking the card but I just wonder why so many lists play it still
golden plover
It's a 2 drop with okay stats that draws a card
Not like great, but it technically isn't bad?
fallow citrus
it's also a 2/1 that draws in a bowmaster world
plus the stats for 2 mana kind of suck unless you already have a lord
glad peak
It’s a fine card
fallow citrus
so you're maybe playing this t3 instead of something you want to keep up like tidebinder or if you want to drop harbinger
glad peak
Not really too consequential and it’s a merfolk
gritty nest
I got this new mat yesterday at locals
lusty trench
Jeez Eluge is wild
? How it reads incredibly tame
gritty nest
Eluge?
sleek ferry
I got this new mat yesterday at locals
This is pretty sick, what’s the scene from?
lusty trench
Entire lair was fire
gritty nest
i knew arcane signet, greaves, and thought vessel was in it, what else was there?
sleek ferry
? How it reads incredibly tame
No way you read eluge and thought to yourself that card was tame
gritty nest
he seems relatively mild paced, as in youre not going ham by turn 4 all the time? he gets big quick yea (starting at 3-4 p/t depending on how many lands you needed) and requires attacking once on table to really keep the snowball rolling to make the first instant or sorcery dirt cheap
lusty trench
No way you read eluge and thought to yourself that card was tame
4 mana 4/4 that discounts your spells progressively less
Doesn’t seem that great
Like not bad
But it’s got zero protection and the counters do fuck all if it goes down
I’d probably rather play mizzix for the red
[[mizzix]]
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Legendary Creature — Goblin Wizard
Whenever you cast an instant or sorcery spell with mana value greater than the number of experience counters you have, you get an experience counter.
Instant and sorcery spells you cast cost less to cast for each experience counter you have.
2/2
lusty trench
Not as big but it doesn’t just apply to the first spell either
granite badge
[[eluge]]
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gritty nest
[[!Eluge, the Shoreless Sea]]
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lusty trench
i knew arcane signet, greaves, and thought vessel was in it, what else was there...
Sol ring
fallow citrus
I think the big thing being overlooked is the U reduction
sure it does things worse than another card but also that is huge
gritty nest
im not denying that, my issue is it's a slow snowball due to wanting to attack to keep increasing the flood counters. yea you can use evasion but itll only work so much because you won't always have it
fallow citrus
I mean as long as it doesn't die you can swing reliably
you don't need to connect, just to swing, so by turn 5 you should be able to start amassing them
copper pecan
https://vxtwitter.com/DanaFischerMTG/status/1817380153229729957
https://vxtwitter.com/DanaFischerMTG/status/1817380418313978226
glad to see that -1/-1 counters aren't off the table for new sets
trail anvil
animal mega-batch seems like it would have ridiculously long reminder text and fellowship seems kinda meh/confusing
holidays look like an interesting idea though
maybe busted in some places
copper pecan
maro put out an article that showed the reminder text for animals and i don't think it would fit on a card
it's like 50+ types
broken fjord
But it’s got zero protection and the counters do fuck all if it goes down
You quickly get free counterspells. It also applies for every turn, not just your own.
So you get 4 free spells per rotation.
gritty nest
one free counterspell, and itll either be dramatically reduced or free, depending on its cost
if its got U and generic costs, you can only reduce one or the other, if I understood the card right
broken fjord
Yeah. I put irenicus' vile duplication in. 2 eluges means UUUU is reduced.
modern minnow
I kinda like fellowship but i think it's got too much baggage
trail anvil
no jaheira with all those tokens?
golden plover
Fellowship sounds cute, but the mechanic is clearly named Menagerie
Like I'm sorry R+D, the mechanic is called Menagerie
trail anvil
also llanowar loamspeaker is an interesting mana dork, is there a reason to run that when there's no other synergy with it making a land creature?
golden plover
Ya know, I kinda wish [[Omnath, Locus of All]] didn't happen
lost widgetBOT
golden plover
I think it would have been cooler for Omnath to get normal black mana and not be compleated
Since now this one is gonna fuck up any future omnath plans too
Would have been way cooler to have Omnath get black mana as a "last resort" option against the phyrexians too
It's not like all of Zendikar was compleated, plane held off really well
trail anvil
it's okay just despark him after you decompleat him /s
golden plover
And it's not like Omnath gained Colorless and became an Eldrazi during that arc, so it's weird he gets it here
golden plover
it's okay just despark him after you decompleat him /s
Oh god I forgot about Nahiri's side story